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"They're Hopping Mad In The US And Saudi Arabia": Russian Strikes In Syria Spark Epic Western Media Propaganda Blitz
We are now two days into Russia’s air campaign against anti-regime forces in Syria and both Moscow and the West are rushing to spin the narrative.
The frantic attempt from both sides to shape public opinion has been truly amazing to behold and the sheer amount of coverage speaks to what we said on Thursday about just how important the conflict really is for the Mid-East balance of power.
For the US, portraying Russian airstrikes as supportive of a murderous regime and as an imminent threat to civilians is key, as it allows Washington to explain away the fact that the US and its allies haven’t coordinated their efforts with Moscow. Take the following from CNN for instance, who reports that Russia has made a “strategic blunder” and that by opening an air campaign, Russia risks raising the spectre of the Soviet-Afghan war in the minds of potential jihadists who will supposedly rush into Syria to join the fight:
There is no ambiguity now about Russia's current tactics in Syria -- they are seeking to take over the airspace in the region and be the agenda-setting force on the ground, several senior administration officials told CNN.
"Yesterday's demarche to the U.S. by Russian officials in Baghdad was clear in its intent," one senior administration official said. "Make sure you don't have anyone around ISIS targets and get out of the air."
And while U.S. officials have no plans to cede Russia any ground, they also said it appears that Russian President Vladimir Putin made a dramatic chess move that the Russians have not thought through -- one official even called it a "strategic blunder."
Had the Russians been clear that they are providing support in Syria to prevent Syrian President Bashar al-Assad regime's collapse -- a scenario that would benefit ISIS -- they might have gotten some credit on the world stage.
But their very first strikes in the region hit CIA-backed anti-Assad rebel forces, Arizona Republican John McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said Thursday on CNN's "New Day."
And U.S. officials note that every bomb against a non-ISIS Sunni target puts them more in bed with Iran and Hezbollah, which are Shiite. U.S. allies in the Persian Gulf warn that this could set off a huge sectarian conflict and that the deeper the Russians get into this, the harder officials believe it will be to get a diplomatic process with the Saudis and others restarted.
"It is going to be hugely tempting for the Saudis to start financing their guys again," another senior administration official said. "Syria will be a magnet for every jihadi, who will rush to fight the Russians, just like they did in Afghanistan. The problem is while this will cause problems for the Russians, it will also mean trouble for the Gulf, when the jihadists come home."
"The Russians can't be stupid," another senior administration official said. "This is going to be wildly expensive. And they can't hold out long. They know in the end there is no future for the guy (Assad) because the whole reason they had to come in is because Assad and his forces were extremely vulnerable. So we are hoping they will come to their senses, stabilize the situation and then we can agree on the Assad piece."
Now obviously, there are too many absurd statements there to count, but note (again) that Russia has never hid its support for Assad. When Charlie Rose told Putin on national US television that some people believe Russia is in Syria to help Assad, Putin said, quote, “well, you’re right.” On top of that, it’s glaringly obvious to anyone who knows anything about the global balance of power that Russia is there to support Assad and it's ridiculous for anyone to suggest that Putin isn't aware of the fact that by supporting the regime, Russia falls squarely on the side of Iran and Hezbollah. It’s also glaringly obvious that ISIS isn’t the only extremist group fighting for control of the country and the notion that the US has now finally managed to identify the “good guys” in Syria after failing to get it right for four years and that now evil Russia is deliberately targeting those good guys simply because they’re the good guys is laughable to the point that one wonders if CNN and others pushed back on being compelled to spin it that way. Additionally, it’s a little late for the US to be concerned about someone inadvertently creating a theatre that in the minds of jihadis will serve as the stage for humanity’s final battle. If Washington was worried about that they might have avoided getting involved in Syria in the first place and they definitely would have avoided training the soldiers who would go on to join the very group that’s perpetuating that idea.
And then here’s WSJ:
The White House challenged Russia’s claim that the airstrikes were targeting Islamic State militants, saying Thursday that Moscow was carrying out “indiscriminate military operations” in areas where the group isn't operating. A White House official also dismissed the possibility that Russia had inadvertently bombed non-Islamic State areas. U.S. officials say the Russian military bombed one area primarily held by rebels backed by the Central Intelligence Agency and allied spy services.
Contrary to claims by the Russian Ministry of Defense, none of the areas that were hit have a known Islamic State presence. At least two of the rebel factions attacked by the Russians—Tajamu Al-Ezzeh and the Central Division—have received weapons including advanced antitank missiles and funding from the U.S. and its allies, according to rebel leaders.
The arc that the Russian airstrikes followed begins around the town of Jisr al-Shughour in northern Idlib province near the Turkish border and adjacent to an agricultural area known as the Ghab Plain. It cuts through the central Syrian cities of Hama and Homs and ends at the Lebanese border.
Alawites—the regime’s base of support—are concentrated west of the arc in an area that includes Latakia province.
Everything east is dominated by the country’s Sunni majority, to which most of those fighting the regime belong.
A series of tit-for-tat massacres during the more than four-year conflict have solidified this sectarian fault line.
Yes, the “sectarian fault line” has been solidified and that is a hallmark of Western intervention in the Mid-East. Syria is no different.
And BBC:
Members of the US-led coalition against Islamic State have called on Russia to cease air strikes they say are hitting the Syrian opposition and civilians.
In a joint statement on Friday, the US, UK, Turkey and other coalition members said Russian strikes would "only fuel more extremism".
And best of all there's Al-Jazeera (which is of course owned by Qatar), who takes it up another notch by suggesting that Russia is now intentionally killing civilians:
Russia accused of striking civilian targets in Syria
Activists say warplanes are targeting civilians in areas under control of Western-backed rebels, a claim Russia denies.
For their part, Bloomberg did the American public a favor by laying out the real story, albeit in an article that carries the title "US, Allies Demand Russia Stop Attacks On Syrian Opposition":
Russian forces are targeting only Islamic State, al-Qaeda affiliated Nusra Front and other terrorist groups, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Thursday in New York. The Free Syrian Army, a U.S-backed rebel group, was not among the targets and it should have a role in the political process in Syria, he added.
“The goal is terrorism,” he said. “And we are not supporting anyone against their own people.”
Assad’s government has been fighting alongside Iranian reinforcements to secure a corridor from the coastal province of Latakia, home to Assad’s Alawite minority, stretching to the capital Damascus, according to Reva Bhalla, vice president for analysis at Stratfor, a geopolitical intelligence and advisory firm based in Austin, Texas. The government has accused Qatar and Saudi Arabia of backing “terror groups,” and dismissed the criticism.
“They’re hopping mad in Saudi Arabia, the U.S. And Qatar because of their defeat and the victory of Russia and Syria and the unraveling of the fact that the U.S. and its allies are not serious about fighting” Islamic State, Syrian lawmaker Sharif Shehadeh said by phone from Damascus. “Those who claim to be concerned about the Syrian people are the ones slaughtering the Syrian people through the terrorists.”
There you go. That last passage pretty much says it all.
Meanwhile, the Russian propaganda machine is also in high gear as The Kremlin is jumping at the opportunity to portray Putin as the man who saved the world when no one else was willing to. Here's Bloomberg again:
Vladimir Putin may have caught the U.S. and its allies off guard by striking Syria, but his propaganda machine was ready.
“A hundred dead terrorists,” a news presenter on Russia’s No. 2 network announced early Thursday, just hours after the bombing of what Putin has called “evil-doers” began. She then cut to a correspondent in Syria who lauded the precision of the strikes as aerial footage of the attacks supplied by the Defense Ministry aired.
Over on Channel 1, the most-watched station, a parade of politicians, analysts and religious leaders -- both Christian and Muslim -- rolled by justifying the use of force on both legal and moral grounds.
“This is more than just military strikes against Islamic State,” said the editor of National Defense magazine, Igor Korotchenko, after parliament unanimously authorized the use of force. “We are protecting the values of humanity and taking a stand against the most extreme forms of obscurantism and terror.”
What's amusing there is that as overstated as it is, that narrative is actually closer to the truth than what's being fed to the public by the Western media.
In any event, the important thing here is to cut through all of this and extract the bits that help to tell the story of what's actually taking place in Syria. As we detailed on Thursday, this is effectively a Mid-East coup by Russia and Iran wherein Tehran will replace Riyadh as the regional power broker and Moscow will supplant Washington as the superpower puppet master. And on that note, we close with another excerpt from the WSJ piece cited above:
Iran’s Foreign Ministry welcomed Russia’s military intervention in Syria on Thursday, saying it was the right step to fight terrorism and a move toward bringing stability to the region.
“Fighting terrorism effectively requires a strong and serious will and has to be based on cooperation with the governments of Iraq and Syria,” Marzieh Afkham, spokeswoman for the ministry, said according to Iranian media reports.
Ibrahim al-Amin, a Lebanese commentator and newspaper editor close to Hezbollah and Iran, said Moscow essentially provided a green light for a counteroffensive against rebels across the political spectrum.
“From our side, we can no longer ignore the decision of the axis of resistance, backed by Russia, to not only prevent Assad’s fall but to also weaken all his foes. All his foes without any distinction,” wrote Mr. Amin in the Lebanese daily Al-Akhbar on Thursday.
“We must benefit from Russian support to launch tough and decisive battles in several places in Syria,” he added.
Before the latest Russian intervention, Iran played a pivotal role propping-up pro-regime militias made up largely of Alawites and Shiites. It has orchestrated thousands of Shiite fighters mainly from Lebanon and Iraq with Hezbollah being in the lead.
But thousands of rebels regrouped in several enclaves north of Homs, in towns like al-Rastan and Talbiseh. Russian jets hit both civilian and military targets in these two towns and five surrounding villages, said Rashid al-Hourani, a Syrian army officer from the area who defected to the rebels in 2012.
He said the airstrikes were followed with a barrage of artillery fire from several nearby positions where pro-regime Alawite and Shiite militias, including an Iran-backed group known as the Ridha Brigade, have been massing over the past few days.
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The western medicine man does not like it when he has to take his own medicine, simple as that
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Just like when WTC building 7 was reported to have collapsed before it actually did, Russian bombings in Syria killed civilians before the bombings started;
http://www.rt.com/news/317188-putin-civilian-casualties-syria/
Shades of history repeating itself here, I think. Like when the US told Great Britain to back off of Egypt after... what was it? WWII?
Sorry, you don't run this joint any more. Go home.
I wish it was it was so simple as "go home". I have seen nothing that would suggest this govt won't do something insanely idiotic to escalate things. they will not be able to tolerate getting pushed out. We are ruled over by arrogant authoritarians ho care only about their power and influence, and don't care who gets hurt or killed in the pursuit of these interests. I would hope they will be smart enough to back off before risking a war with another nuclear power, but what have you seen in recent memory that suggests these people aren't that stupid? in their view, whats the point of even having a world, or civilization, if we can't rule it all?
Once the pushed out ones get killed all will be good, be patient, it will happen unexpectedly.
Homs is notorious for "pushed-out ones"
US neocons must be shitting in their pants this morning.
Progressives are in charge.
Neocons cheer from the sidelines.
Try to shake off the progressive brainwashing dude, mmmkay?
Grimaldus
victoria nuland says you can't find your own ass with your hands.
The Deep State is in charge. The red team vs. blue team bullshit is a show for the rubes.
McCain shits his pants anyway, so I'm not sure What he'll do ;')
McCain shits his pants anyway, so I'm not sure What he'll do ;')
What's more amazing is if I mention any of this to anyone, they have no idea what I'm talking about. Syria? Huh? What?
Mission accomplished.
Love how the conversation has started talking of CIA backed assets, and Saudi funded mercenaries. Kind of detracts from the fairy tale narrative of "homegrown opposition to the Assad regime."
Russia's air campaign is legal under intl law too.
Elliot, just want to say, I always liked you and the deal with the hooker was a real bum rap.
ditto. the real guy got a little too close to some painful truths and was taken out.
like this guy: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/02/20/100-certain-911-author-was-kille...
Yep, the light flicked on and the roaches are caught out in the open....now they are scurrying for cover.
The Amerikan people are slowly understanding what has been happening over there and they don't necessarily like it....aka, why you need another school shooting and a call to grab the guns.
Err, I assume you meant "another "faked" school shooting"".
Over at National Review Online, Mr. Krauthammer is very, very upset indeed, that "our Allies on the ground" are being killed by Russian airstrikes.
Krauthammer feels humiliated. Made my day!
"Shades of history repeating itself here, I think."
It would be wonderful if it were so simple and one could just chalk up the repeating of history to plain ol stupidity.
Alas, it is not a repeating of history that the ignorant are too blind to see, it is a slow-motion moneychanger game played for moar world domination using the money-god to complete the supposed final solution in which isreal was created to be the fall-guy matchstick that ignites the world fires to burn out all those useless esters, and breathers. Sum fun, huh? SUCKERS!!!!
History indeed repeats, but this next quelling of the ignorant masses is supposed to be the last to eliminate most of the breathing and non-breathing biological life on the planet earth. The sad truth is, these scumbags have pitted country against country using all the sorted lunatics and puppet politicians to further the evil world domination and population elimination agendas for decades. What makes this particular cycle different is, never has there been so many that are aware of the evil rottenchld empire of dust, and yet still play along with the game letting fear and greed be their controlling factors.
How much longer can this hokie-tokie propaganda that only the really stupid can believe coming from the media garbage charade-news and world war zio-blah blah play to promote it all go on? The stupid. It hurts!!
Can't we just see the dollar crash and get on without the world woar? Like, break the repetitious cycle and NOT repeat the horrible mistakes of the past so the wicked rottenchild and roccofeller empire of dust can profit again from so much death and destruction? How about the world spends all that money-god stuff on everything good that promotes peace and growth and fair trades instead?
Did ya hear that lamp posts and banksters make for a very chic PC sign of good times ahead?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX7V6FAoTLc
At least the the media is finally reporting that the CIA was/is actively trying to overthrow Assad. More conspiracy theory becomes conspiracy fact.
exactly!! I was just stating this to a coworker.....Now the USA has admitted that Al Nursa is backed by the CIA!
I thought eithe Obama, McCain or that other scum bag Petreaus said it would take 100 years of US troops and fighting to beat ISIS??
I guess they just wanted to spend or steal $100 billion a year fighting fictional ISIS. What evil scum American "leaders" are.
fred, gotta grow the debt somehow..........the welfare/warfare state demands it
You forgot Wall Street.
"What evil scum American "leaders" are."
Ding...ding...ding!!!...we have a winner here folks!!!
That is the smack you down knock in the face horrible and wicked sad truth of this horrendous insane situation. What evil scum American "leaders" are, and the world knows it. Everybody knows it and yet, the shitshow goes day after frigging day after day!
Side note: dear world's people, please do not hate the amerian people for what this out of control insane leadership is doing. We the heart of America are not able to stop this crazy absolutely wicked war mongering so the few can war profit. Please forgive the drugged out on TV nation for drinking the kool-aid of deceptions, lies, and dis/mis-information in a nation where it is legal to lie, steal, and be as corrupt as possible. Only in this nation can criminals like hitlery cliton get away with blatant criminality and treason and nothing is done to her. There is no law for the rich and evil, it is only for the poor and that kind of justice is just admiralty law revenue generation, and bond support.
Stop the train of stupid! All these zio/faci/jesuit/etc puppets and licksticks are all working for the same goals of the rotenchilds and roccofeller bankster agendas. Just wait until those lizards are all dug out of the chinese tunnels and hideaways they are planning to hide in for the next world after...museum pieces they be in the future representing the epitome of stupid evil incarnate and what idiotic things in the human flesh will do for a buck. It's gonna be a real hit!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h27HRNm_r4U
When they get around to reporting that ISIS is a CIA construct then I'll consider pulling out the party hat. Until then, it's media obfuscation of the facts surrounding every conflict that region has seen this past decade. In fact, I'll say that the mention of the CIA is intentional to throw up a stopgap in the event the ISIS connection starts getting traction in the alternative or overseas media.
How's this - CNN reporting on 'the US led ISIS coalition'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_MrY67uRXo
Do not weep for the dead or mourn his loss; rather, weep bitterly for him who is exiled, because he will never return nor see his native land again.
Based on the number of young men of fighting age I see in this refugee movement into Europe, they are not exiles. They seem to have chosen to flee instead of fight for their native land, leaving family behind.
Now, I'm not saying I would not want to do the same under similar circumstances. I have been in war zones, and the best thing a civillian can do is get the hell out, preferably in advance. However, I am saying that I would not leave my family behind.
Exiles are one thing, war refugees are another, and economic migrants yet another. All are tragic, but what are the soultions?
They are not Syrians 90%...and yes most military age...
they were intentionally pre gathered to turn loose on Europe
grunts know these things!
Ninety percent of the "refugees" are young men. What happened to the women and children? So much for lifeboat rules. Germany has been duped by the US to take an unlimited number, to "quiet down" the refugee crisis we created. Merkel licking Sam's uh, boots, again. Wait until Germany finds how many of those poor refugees hate Everything German culture stands for, and just want to Kill, Kill, Kill.
The hypocrasy here is blindingly obvious, yet no one, even russia, really calls the US on it. The US govt has killed millions of people in that region over the past decade, and thats not even including the 500k children that 'were worth it' to kill to sanction iraq. And the US is trying to lecture someone else on bombing civilian target? These people are absolutely insane. Its truly 1984 in the US. Im not one of the Putin worshippers on here, but I hope they go in and destroy ISIS, which everyone knows is an intentional creation of the US, in a couple months and makes the usgov look stupid as hell. Im so sick of this shit. Enough already
Yes, MaelinecAlbrechts line aoiut those half million kids being acceptable collateral damage was a rare moment of truthiness from the Satanists in power.
It's good to see something else (isis) getting Monkey Hammered instead of gold for a change.
Actually, it's Madeleine Korbel.
Who knew!
The centrifuge is spinning faster and faster now in an effort to separate us all into our specific strata, our molecular weights. This concentration, this refinement is being orchestrated for the exact effects we see in the world...and here on ZH. This power that is doing this IS NOT a supporter of Jews, or Neocons, or Neolibs, or MIC, or communists,or the CIA.These groups or "interests" are but the tools needed.
This whole thing...the economic and human disasters, has been playing out in slow motion. Nothing instant or impulsive or even reactionary about it. Like a fine tuned clock winding its way down.
I don't claim to have a clue WHO is behind it, and don't know that it even matters. The only thing that IS important is that we recognize that it is happening...that we are being manipulated with CAUSE, long range CAUSE. If we humans lack anything relative to our own survival, it is the ability to plan and anticipate the future beyond the very shortest term. To look at our foreign policies, to look at our immersion into debt, tells us everything about the human race. If we want to truly change, we are going to HAVE to think about the future, and not about our immediate selves. We are blinding ourselves to our on consequence, just as a cow will pursue its feed as it walks voluntarily into the kill chute.
"I don't claim to have a clue WHO is behind it, and don't know that it even matters."
Alex Jones is screaming himself silly telling everyone and anyone that it´s the "Globalists" (and please buy some Super Male Vitality, dope your kids up with our new shipment of Child Eaze, and fork over some dough for my Money Bomb because my divorce is costing me a fortune).
I'm not a fan of, ahem... Mr. Jones. However, I think in a broad sense he is correct. The problem is that he never connects the dots to explain that Globalists, means a heckuva lot of people and organizations all scrambling for a place at the global governance table for them and their progeny. You can't pin down one or two bad guys because anyone with lots of money, and/or power/influence could be part of the mob that is murdering Mankind's freedom for their own gain. I think without opposition this ends with an unholy combination of 1984, Minority Report, The Matrix and Brave New World in the "developed" world as the panacea for the millions of dead from the world war these same devils started in the first place.
But I thought "The Empire is on the run!"?
Mr Jones has never once, in his career, revealed that Israel is in fact the State of Rothschild.
Why would he conceal, or fail to reveal, such vital information?
That may be true, but he has had a lot of guests on who are about as anti-Israel/Zionist as you can get. 3 examples would be Texe Marrs (Christian preacher, author, and internet radio host), David Icke, and recently David Duke who he had on for a 2 hour debate. Just found this debate in doing research on your assertion, here it is.
David Duke Debates Alex Jones (8-18-15)
this may be a too-quick reaction, but zionism has better opponents (but possibly not that would go on that show).
My take on him is that he is the anti-freeze for the slow boiling frog. Not necessarily a psy-op.
He has unlocked a lot of minds and has provided the critical thinking tools and historical analysis necessary to think outside the standard programming for a lot of people. What you do with it is your choice but for him to confront the built-in programmed destruction of questioning certain mythologies would limit the growth of his business and the growth of an audience of people that can become aware of the basic psy-op programming that inundates them IMO. I think he has navigated away from those shoals to allow the maximum awareness of alternatives and avoid being shut-down by the standard refrain. It is a powerful attack response embedded in the media.
There are still a lot of minds imprisoned in the matrix. Jones doesn't have all the answers but at least he asks some of the questions. Minds opened are minds that will never stop questioning...everything.
But socalbeach's point is well taken that he does not hold certain notorious criminals to task enough although I have heard him and seen his videos address their specific criminal activity in the past. A more robust attack on that front is warranted, on that I agree. That history is woefully insufficient in analysis and discussion. He could do more and should move the ball forward.
I agree with SocialBeach. Alex is not perfect and frankly unlistenable from time to time.
With that said, I'd rather take the 80% good and leave the rest rather than just bag on the guy for his flaws. Sure, he could be more direct on the Zionist question.
But think about the scenario if he were to come out full bore with what he knows is the case: WWII onward is one lying narrative after another and a significant part of that is the Jewish constituency in world power. His revenues would take a hit from immediate .gov regulatory nonesense and he would be seared with the Nazi brand. I'm not defending that approach, but then again I'm not in a position of superiority either.
Having listened to him on and off since 2003, I think he is, overall, honestly trying to get at truth while sometimes being ambiguous on questions relating to Israel (and boarish, slick salesman like, and obnoxiously provincial.) I'm not in his position so I won't judge harshly and find his rants at times very entertaining and motivating.
Let's be fair, too. He did have on Duke and he did at least let the guy talk for a couple of hours. You will not see that on NBC News anytime ever.
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"The hypocrasy here is blindingly obvious, yet no one, even russia, really calls the US on it."
Of course Russia has called the US on it. You should read or watch the last UN speech of Vladimir Putin.
It goes something like, quote, "Do you realize what you've done?"
I heard it, and while I kinda-sorta did call us out, it wasn't really what I mean. I want to hear someone, like Putin, stand up on TV and in front of everyone and flat out say it.
"you have murdered millions of people in wars of agression. Your wars are illegal under international law. Your arming and supporting of the insurgents in syria is illegal under international law, you have destroyed an entire region in the name of pax americana. your drone program over most of the ME is illegal. You are war criminals."
Thats what I want to hear.
That's exactly what this brave, articulate and well-informed lady said. Watch and admire.
Obama is called a war criminal in Irish Parliament by Clare Daly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnJCvKA-oEU
That was just awesome...thanks.
we need more ppl like her...
nearly impossible to find a good version of that speech online with English translation. Remember the whole fight is for hearts and minds in Germany. That is the prize. Reminds me of that non-existent, non-book by the humorless, boundlessly non-political Jedi-master.
Aleksandr Isayevich Solzhenitsyn:
A man is happy so long as he chooses to be happy and nothing can stop him............ Hastiness and superficiality are the psychic diseases of the twentieth century, and more than anywhere else this disease is reflected in the press.......... A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny. (from google, but worth sharing, today of all days.)http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/50385
Hypocrisy is exactly what is going on. However Saudi Arabia deserves special mention as 3 days ago they murdered 130 innocent people at a wedding in Yemen, then turned around a few days later and screamed how bad it was that Russia was killing civilians in Syria. Makes you want to vomit!
Apparently (Snowden release) the UK and Suadi governments have cooperated to get Saudi Arabia a seat on the UN Human Rights Commission. That is some serious chutzpah.
and that's a yiddish word for a reason.
Every non muslim wants the muslim population reduced.
Even the neg-nogs on this page.
eggy, lightly spiced, milky negroes?
vegan egg nogs?
i'm non muslim and i'm ok with their population.
wouldn't mind fewer zionists and obscurantists though.
I imagine that Russia will make fairly short business of dispatching these Bolshie terrorists, since they are spending their own money to do this. They don't really have the money machine we have to borrow from China and put the US taxpayer on the hook to support Chinese retirees twenty years from now. Russia's consumers aren't rich enough to buy all those Chinese exports, no Russian Walmart. See it's all one piece...
Well, the U.S. Government never lets the truth get in the way of a predetermined agenda.
By, the way, wasn't the enemy du jour originally Al Qaeda? Now, it's ISIS or ISIL...or just plain IS. Or is all that part of the ice bucket challenge?
I honestly can't keep track of all the ridiculous acronyms or who we're supposed to hate this week or this month or this year.
First, we were supposed to hate the Communists. Then we were supposed to hate the terrorists. Now, we're only supposed to hate specific terrorist groups. It's all so confusing.
Perhaps the CIA could put out a Cliff Notes book on the whole shebang to simplify things a bit. </sarcasm>
It is time for Barry the Queer to resign in disgrace,
or hang for his treason.
Or???
I say he should get both.
Along with Cheney and the rest of the 911 plotters.
Along with CON-Grzz9io) and the rest of the US govt and govt employees of all the alphabet agencies and depts. All sellout traitors.
+100500
Cool. Like Blackwater.
what's very curious is the US standin down on this one. wasn't it just a short time ago that Obama was making all kinds of noise in the area, like bringing in aircraft carries and battleships? then, when it looked like WWIII was looming, Putin chose to stay home. but now that he is there with a lot more than threats all the US and Obama can do is to condem and squawk about what's fair.
in retrospect, it looks like Vlad took a rook, unapposed, and is now bearing down on the 8th rank of a beaten opponent.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3343723/posts
Chickenhawks and cuckservatives Sen. Tom Cotton, Rep. Kevin McCarth and Fiorina are calling for a no-fly zone in Syria.
They do nothing to protect the border and stop the invasion of America.
They do nothing to stop the mass murder of Christians and non-Christians in Syria.
What is positive is Free Republic is filled with a lot of Jonathan Pollard Evangelicals who would let Bibi murder their children are telling chickenhawks cotton and McCarthy to F off. They also mention Fiorina is an idiot. She wrecked Lucent, HP and Agilent.
"Chickenhawks and cuckservatives Sen. Tom Cotton, Rep. Kevin McCarth and Fiorina are calling for a no-fly zone in Syria."
Needs just a petition to Moscow. And done.
I forgot to mention that both parties which are really the uniparty of scumbags - all need to go. The vile and Dems and RINOs all supported the mass murder of innocent people in Syria, Iraq, Libya, Yemen, Ukraine and the list is almost endless.
"Chickenhawks and cuckservatives Sen. Tom Cotton, Rep. Kevin McCarth and Fiorina are calling for a no-fly zone in Syria."
Putin - Done. We have a couple of serious Russian navy missile cruisers located off the Syrian coast. We won't even have to bring S-300s on to land. How do you like them apples?
Enforcing a No-Fly zone against Sadam or Ghadafi or even Assad is one thing. Do they seriously think that the Russians are going to respect it?
What do they suggest is the course of action when the Russians ignore it?
Frankly, the only legitimate authority that can establish a No-Fly zone is the government of Syria. They have not done so because they are not able to.
As far as these politicians making such proposals, I have one of my own. If there is a No-Fly zone created by the US, the pilots that have to fly to enforce it get them as passengers.
Let these politicians put their own lives on the line.
Too late ! There is a no-fly zone in Syria. The Russians just established it...
The difference is that Obama is a spoiled man-child who had his head filled with hate-laced Frank Marshall Davis busllshit, and Putin is what they used to call a real man, one who actually loves his country and wants to do right by it.
"The western medicine man does not like it when he has to take his own medicine, simple as that"
...as it is not medicine and it is not a medicine man.
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Oy vey. The filthy Goyim no longer trust my fine media establishments, my fine banking establishments or my humanitarian wars. TO THE JEW CAVE.
MSM used to be called the Jewish press
You'll get nothing but Mogen David from the Jewish press.
as planned long time ago:
proto #2, para 5:
credits: http://tinyurl.com/pr9y5pd
"the administration" is full of crap as per usual
The first casualty of war is the truth.
So the bankers have been at war with us since at least WW1 then.
At least the Civil War in the USA. The USA was lost in 1861 and possibly even earlier.
"At least the Civil War in the USA. The USA was lost in 1861 and possibly even earlier."
That is correct... except it was lost in 1865. The purposely misnamed "Civil War" was not a civil war in that it was not fought by two contending parties trying to take over the same territory (the south was trying to get out of an abusive relationship) but was actually a counter revolution to the founding of the glorious but short lived republic. It had nothing to do with slavery and everything to do with the northern bankers and industrialists having a majority in congress and using it to plunder the agrarian south with targeted taxes and other levies. The police state/warfare state/empire really took flight in 1865 as Robert E. Lee had so chillingly predicted if the south lost the war.
See Thomas Di Lorenzo.
".....nothing to do with slavery?" Are you fucking high?
Forget what you learned in high school brother.
Go read the reasons the Southern States gave for leaving the Union. Every single one mentioned slavery. You are whitewashing the past.
Here is a link to South Carolina's reason for leaving the Union. http://avalon.law.yale.edu/19th_century/csa_scarsec.asp
Plenty of mentions of slavery there. In fact it states the main reason for leaving was:
"an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution."
How anyone could claim that secession "had nothing to do with slavery," when every single state that left the Union said the North's hostility to slavery was the main reason it left, is beyond me.
Keep bombing Vlad. Target the New Bolshevik leadership no matter where they reside.
It makes perfect sense for the Russians to clean up the pockets of resistance near their new base, before striking further afield. Of course, logic has never been a prerequisite when it comes to Western propaganda.
I have to say, that all western press propaganda is really fast, only few days have passed and internet is full of bullshit already. They are really shitting bricks
I've found that a majority of commenters on news sites with various leanings from various nations favor Russia's actions in Syria.
Pamela Meyer: How to spot a liar - YouTube
Rewatch Obama's UN speech and the latest Oregon mass shooting press release. (his left hand fist).
my process is easier... I just look for all the Putin nut-swingers on RTHedge, and that's the pool of liars I have to deal with...
Muricaaa!
no, no "the US is hopping mad". You know a Pootin lover would not lie. Sit back and enjoy their euphoric hysteria.
Classic AmeriKan fuckhead who sees it all blow up in his stupid face, the lies of his nation laid bare for all to see, yet said fuckhead still persists in his denial. Your country got caught being a skumbag, doing things (arming terrorists, fomenting civil wars, ethnic cleansing) that would rightly earn the condemnation and outrage of the USSA were any other nation caught doing them.
Don't be a cunt. At least have the fucking balls to own it.
you act like it's over when it's just getting started... let's check each other's notes in five years, we'll see what's what then...
No, "it" began over 25 years ago when we first bombed Iraq and invaded Kuwait. It's cost the people in that region about 4 million lives so far. Now at least, some country is saying "enough."
Its funny they all threaten war, but arent we still supposed to get congress to declare it or was that another process that got swept under the rug?
BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. WE DONT HAVE TIME FOR RULES OR THE CONSTITUTION.
As with the Federal budget, Congress quietly passed a continuing resolution regarding the war on terror. It allows any and all actions needed to maintain political power, anywhere in the world, because dissent is terrorism.
Congress does have to declare war, but the president can send troops wherever he wants regardless of a declaration from congress. Many presidents have sent troops overseas, sent our navy around the world, and bombed the shit out of countries with no declaration of war. The beauty is that only congress can fund our military operations...Roosevelt sent our navy halfway around the world to display the might of America (without congressional approval) they got halfway around when they ran out of fuel. Roosevelt then went to congress and said...so you want our troops to come home? Fund them..
We have entered many wars without the approval of congress. Congress often has no choice to fund wars/operations when presidents take action.
Congress gave all their war power authority to BushCO and all future Presidents. You need to catch up.
Look at Libya, Iraq, Afghanistan and Ukriane for America's vision of democracy through regime change. A wonderful example of pain, suffering, death and anarchy. Civilians (women and children included) have been dying by the hundreds of thousands in Syria for years while the US continued to support the proxy armies that contributed to the instability. All of this to overthrough the existing governments.
BINGO! Comment of the day...
Russia and China
While you finish the mop up detail of "McCain's marauders"....
Kindly dump the rest of your 1 trillion + of USTs for the EU, U.S. London banking contingent before the close of the year!
Cause you know it's gonna get nasty anyway and if you want to hasten the well deserved demise of the Western money lenders you will need to put their economies on ice before you finish the military exercise!
No time like the present!!!
On 21 September, AFP reported:
The Islamic State jihadist group executed nine men and a boy it accused of being gay in central and northern Syria on Monday, a monitoring group said.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the jihadists shot dead seven men in Rastan, a town in Homs province of central Syria, “after accusing them of being homosexual.”
On 30 September, BBC reported:
A Syrian opposition activist network, the Local Co-ordination Committees, said Russian warplanes hit five towns—Zafaraneh, Rastan, Talbiseh, Makarmia and Ghanto—resulting in the deaths of 36 people, including five children.
None of the areas targeted were controlled by IS, activists said.
So 9/21 ISIS was in Rastan murdering gays but by 9/30 they had all gone? And, exactly who were these 'activists' cited by the BBC?
The MSM think they can treat us like idiots. Well the joke is on them.
Now the LGBT Nazis are in a tizzy. Who to suppport? Russia against ISIS?
Just Hasbara doing what it does best!...
It feels like September 11, 2001 all over again but the band better be more clever with it's excuses than it's ever been in it's existence cause when the "white chimp" says you're going to war and Russia and China "did it" time for a draft?...
It's gonna get real... Especially with all the toasted PTSD shit for brain motherfuckers in the U.S. military that made Russia in Syria possible in the first place!
'The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights'
Is just ONE men sitting in his bedroom in Coventry, England. That says it all.
Syrian Observatory for Human Rights run by immigrant from his UK home:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Kwd-8lJUhI
Great catch!
That was a really good one. So many lies they are going to trip themselve up.
pods
Try this: https://i.imgur.com/QpF0qAz.jpg
That's one unlucky girl getting bombed twice in a week - amazing that the same chap was there to help her both times though.
I just assume everything is BS from this point out.
pods
Undoubtably. But the average American dumbass still believes. My barber was all upset today that Isreal might get wiped off the map. He watches Fox News all day long.
Nice catch, Europox.
Surprise!! Our government is lying to us!!
pisses me off every time i hear these news sources quoting these so called activists...
they are fucking liars is what they are
this stupid syrian observatory for human rights is run in the uk
ppl are so stupid to believe this shit
Pathetic, such a laughing stock of the world...no real leaders, pussies in suits is all they are.
The white hens are Obama and Kerry... Bi Bi and Salman are protecting the "harem"...
CONGRESS SUPPORTS TERRORISTS......
....now suck on that hypocracsy for a while
...I love bringing that up as that treason never gets old.
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"There is no ambiguity now about Russia's current tactics in Syria -- they are seeking to take over the airspace in the region and be the agenda-setting force on the ground"
The U.S. propaganda campaign will soon begin to concentrate on the airspace issue. This will become very dangerous. The U.S. does not share in that regard. The situation is unprecedented and may cause some politicians to advocate throwing away the diplomatic rulebook.
But the USAirForce does not fly near real threats.
Only air space in the Syria theater they maybe still control is the MSM airspace.
Paging Duntroon RAAF daddy Lockheed-Martin boy.
Putin called...he said beyotch, time to go and change the ice one the fuel of the F35
Hey dickwad. Do you remember this question? ... that you asked of me?
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Yeah, that's right fuckwit, you bought up the whole subject, 18 months ago - not me, nugget. You trolled for a confirmation-bias hit, but ya didn't get one, didja bitch?
I had basically ignored, shunned or avoided all discussion of the topic up until that point. The only time I even came close to discussing it was with Cog-Dis, about three years back.
I guess you didn't like my reply? If so, maybe you should not have asked for an informed view.
Pathetic know-nothing moron.
I know the f35's don't fly. I know JORN is a white elephant. And il everyone know you came here with your hypothesis that the Chinese had downed MH370 to see what Australia had. I posited that if they could have found the wreckage, Abbot would have announced it to save his skin. So your intellectual pride is stronger than your ignorance.
I know 3 years ago you were here extolling the virtues of the Russian Satan missiles and how hizbollah could take on the Idf. And now you're pulling a Jim Morrison "the west is the best". Has the mining money dried out you are looking for an analyst gig? Or are you scared of metadata retention? Learn to work a VPN+proxy, it's easier than turning into a ADF bitch.
I know you ridiculed arguments on weather modification. Could it be your daddy was likely flying or commanding sorties on Vietnam doing exactly that.
I know you ridiculed arguments that Australian property prices would ever go down, perhaps because his own a few around Mackay or Townsville and now the mining money is drying out the bank is coming calling
You are almost right about the fact I know nothing. You are correct i didn't grow up in some military family sucking on the government teat. Which explains your adoring look upon American aerospace systems, when it has not stood up in combat.
I do know, however, that Intelligence is morally neutral, and that one is to be judged on what one does with it.
OK, so you open with:
Which is pretty self-explanatory, and makes so much sense.
Same again.
No that was not "my hypothesis", it was one of a range of possibilities that I considered (and it was the very last one I considered btw), and I can quote exactly what I said if you like, and show that I emphasized with great care to say that there was no evidence for it." And the fact is, no one knows where MH370 is, or how it got to where it is.
Bullshit, "save his skin" from what? He committed to finding it and Australia is still looking for it and spending vast sums doing that. The very first thing I did in my post on the subject was point out how big the Indian ocean area was and how much area of it was being actively searched and how remote the chances are that they found it by chance, or even would find it, at all, by chance. I fact I said at the time (to MsCreant, and she can confirm that), and before my lengthy post of the topic, that I did not expect them to find MH370 that way during this century.
And the only reason why I wrote that long MH370 post is because the navy left port and went directly to where the active search area wasn't, and dropped their hydrophone and a few hours later that same day said they had already found a signal of what sounded like a pinger. I pointed out the total improbability of that occurring by chance, that either they had known where it went down already, and where it was sitting, or they could not possibly have randomly steamed up and found in that that.
Dickhead.
No, I posted a video to illustrate the reality of their ICBM force, per-sec, and that people who were talking about there being a western nuclear option also needed to understand that MAD was still the operating paradigm, and that the other side had a credible reply.
Fuckwit.
Oh this I've got to see as I know I've never said anything like that, you're flat out lying. Hezbollah had the weapons and tactics to stop IDF Armour in a ground battle and make them withdraw.
I later pointed out that the IDF had then installed the highly effective US TROPHY active missile point-defense on their armored vehicles, and that it would be harder to hit and kill them the next time around.
And I pointed out they had done the same thing with an Israeli corvette offshore southern Lebanon, I also pointed out what the IDF had done in response their new 360 degree sensors and autonomous missile engagement systems. Plus that the IDF had invested heavily in fielding a new class of corvettes and frigates with that capability built in. And those will be much harder to hit.
I also pointed out the use of drones by Hezbollah were a serious threat. And the IDF then fielded a range of SAMs to take them down, and have.
Hezbollah can only deter and punish incursions into Lebanon and air attacks on Lebanon, they do not have and have never had the ability to win a war with Israel - ever. Israel could turn all of south Lebanon and south Beirut into incandescent rubble within the hour, if Hezbollah ever launched any serious ground and guided missile attack into northern and central Israel.
And in that case you can bet that at a minimum the central Govt in Tehran and all Iranian military bases would be hit, simultaneously, because Hezbollah are Iranian armed, Iranian clients, and effectively an Iranian proxy.
I have never doubted that for one second, nor ever said any different to that.
Yeah, it definitely is militarily the best, and by a clear and substantial capability margin and scale, and geographic distribution and mutual alliance linkage, there's no question at all that it is militarily and strategically far stronger than all others, combined.
Umm, this is a blog's comment section, and it is >95% bullcrap, but its main saving grace is that it is un-moderated, and promotes anon discussions and considers that essential to free speech, and to open unlimited frank (if not verbally violent) discussion, which are not only allowed but strongly encouraged.
And I wish you ignorant trolls dipshits would make up your mind! One day I'm working for LockMart (nope), the next I'm former the RAAF (nope, never been in the ADF or anything similar), the next day I'm bucking for position and promotion in a western security .org (nope).
I've said all along exactly what I do, but it doesn't stop you moron trolls fantasizing and talking shit. No matter what you want to paint me as or deny or misrepresent what I have said, I'm still going to keep shoving your bullshit down your dipshit troll gob, and I'm going to keep using facts and evidence to do that with, simply because it works.
And it's fun! :D
And if you don't like it well that's just fine by me - no really! :D
But if I was looking for a mil-analyst's job, I'd be going to where such people are actually formally employed and sitting the relevant tests and demonstrating a viable capacity to usefully do so, but I'm pretty sure they don't recruit military and strategic analysts from the comment section of zero hedge (or at least you'd hope they don't). And I'm pretty sure they would take one look at my background and say, "WFT? ... this fukn guy!?" The west has more than enough highly-informed mil-analysts and they're way better at it than anyone in zh.
Sorry to spoil your little fantasia-on-a-stick, which you seem to enjoy licking so much. :D
There is a difference between analysis and rank propaganda and in zero hedge's comment section there is far too much raw propaganda (about >>95%) and nowhere near enough actual analysis.
And it is the mind-fucked morons like you who are pushing the propaganda wheelbarrow, and who then troll anyone who shows signs of doing any actual factual analysis. So to hell with your troll dog-'n-pony shows, I'll write whatever analysis I wish to, and if it just happens to incidentally demonstrate that you're a troll peddling propaganda 100% of the time, or a confirmation-bias seeking dickwad ...
... hahahah! Then good! :D
If I had something to hide or was a paranoid-neurotic I might feel as you do, but I'm simply not interested in your little mind-'O-fear personal freak-outs before the onerous shadow of big bro. :D And again with the working for the ADF thing! :D
Idiot.
My 'daddy' was indeed a pilot, but not a military pilot, a civil private pilot, but he did own a secondhand and formerly ADF army artillery spotter aircraft called an Auster. He was a rifle hunter too so probably would have slotted right into the military at that time. But no, just a bloke who liked to go fishing when not flying, or killing with a telescopic sight and skinning and pegging out kangaroo skins. Smelly but a good accessory earner at the time for paying for AVGAS.
Well that's total bullcrap, show me where I've ever claimed that? I've never said any such thing, I take for a given RE is insanely high and set to collapse. But I have pointed out a few times to the inaccurate and hyperbolic claims of pre-emptive dumb arse doomers like you that the property market was not crashing at all it was in fact expanding and booming, and massive inflows of hot money were driving up Aust RE relentlessly, and I was completely correct, and the doomers were entirely wrong. If you think you have something to the contrary, let's see it.
Put-up or shut-up dickwad.
Where I live, and with what I own, RE prices are not going to be a problem, I made sure of that a very long time ago.
hahaha ... OK ... let's see ... the US has the biggest military and biggest alliance network on earth, it is by far the most capable force and the largest by far and the most mobile and experienced, and has a massive ability to draw together military forces to defeat any conventional military force on earth that wants to have a little fight with it. It is so effective at doing this that almost all other States, bar a couple, have basically given up trying to fight it and have resorted to non state death-cult militias firing AKs and RPGs at foreign vehicles in foreign cities. And ineffectually I might add. There is no war in the US, Canada, UK, Australia or Japan moron. There is none in South East Asia any more either, but South East Asia is broadly aligned with the West today, and even the Indonesian military and civil sphere are back working with, training with and exercising with the ADF, Customs and Federal Police today and increasing their links with the US, as are all other states in the region. And even Vietnam are training and exercising with Australia and US today. Why? Because all of sea knows that only the US and its alliance have the weapons and platforms and shared interests to always seek to protect SEA, and who can stop China in its tracks for all the foreseeable period to come.
The only reason why I ever highlight the Western military capability and weapons and platforms is simply to counter the bizarre horseshit and drivel spread about constantly by Russian trolls and their sycophantic idiots (like you) about what are actually substantially inferior, outmoded and often completely obsolete Russian and Chinese platforms, weapons and their allegedly 'new' technologies. Well for them it is all 'new', but for the west and the US in particular, not so much.
And why do I do it? Because the troll propagandists, like you, seek to mislead via spreading pure bullshit about how mighty their Russian systems are.
Well they aren't. There is nothing they have the west did not have first - and more of it
For example: The Russians love to go on and on about their mighty SAM forces except the USA was the first country to operate a long range heavy SAM system, and they had it operational a full five years before the Russian SA2 was first revealed during a Moscow parade in 1957.
i.e. it was the Russians who played catchup in the area of SAMS, not the US! The western SAMs were mostly of a decade ahead of the Russian SAMs already.
RIM-2 Terrier - 1951
Nike Ajax - first fixed SAM sites in 1952
RIM-2 Terrier - USN Destroyers 1953
Nike Hercules - deployed 1958
Spartan - 1960
Nike Zeus - 1961
HiBEX - 1964
Sprint ABM - 1965 - shot down ICBM in Dec 1970 before its MIRVs released
Sprint II ABM - 1971
So contrary to the modern Russian myth, the US beat the Russians to everything in the area of heavy SAMs as well.
The Russians are almost always between 2 and 3 decades behind these days, and pretty much every thing they announce as 'new' is invariably as much as 2 to 3 decades old, and often already considered obsolete or long surpassed in the West.
Have a look at the 'new' might T-50, the Russian airpower 'reply' to the F-22A and F-35A, you decide which is already 'new', or clearly 'old' tech:
T50
F-22
F-35
Isn't this fun!? And don't you just love those dents in the T-50 nose cone? And all those old school rough as guts rivets and stuff. And the straight tunnel exposed fan blades. What a ground-breaking design! Terrifying! :D
No wonder the T-50 has been practically cancelled, though they would like to call it "postponed".
Read this: The Myth of Soviet Military Supremacy - Tom Gervasi, 1986.
And also consider the following, because the Russian propagandists love to pretend the perpetual wank that they "defeated the Nazis" during WWII. Well not according to the senior and military Nazis own remarks immediately after the war ended, as they were very clear and candid about what it was that really defeated Hitler's forces - US-Allied air power.
The Reich's Ex-Leaders Explain Why They Were Beaten
hahaha!
Well to hell with your version of 'judgement' dickwad! hahaha! :D
Dopey little trolling pricks like you love to talk your warped bullshit and petty misrepresentations, but you don't ever want to deal with the verifiable facts, it's like vampire meets crucifix and hissy-fits with fangs at that point. :D
Maybe I'll go back and post links to the several locations where I made replies to you specifically to demonstrate with conclusive facts, again and again, that every single remark you had made was complete and utterly delusional bullshit and lies, and was contradicted by all the known facts?
Would you like me to do that?
I'm very happy to do that. :D
Whoa, that is alot of words, it sure is good you're so smart and full of yourself!
It is a good thing you're providing links to internet pages so we aren't confused by your evidence to your non-theories.
Don't they call a guy like you a whanger?
And then there's the super-dumbshit russian troll ... with literally nothing, at all. :D
I'm here to learn.
And reveal braggadocian contradictions.
And never do. lol
Ya got me!
We'll work on that chip some more, soon.
Hypocite On
The belief that U.S. air power, and not the USSR's army, defeated Nazi Germany during WWII is asinine.
The German military and Govt disagree. They did their own analysis and lived and worked through it all, so I think they'd know something about it. And if you read records from the time the Russians were constantly asking and then demanding allied air forces bomb eastern Germany more, to take pressure off advancing Russian armies that were taking phenomenal loses. The allied armies didn't suffer anything like the same attrition because their air forces were constantly bombing the crap out the Germans in the west. The only time the Germans managed to offensively fight back effectively against the allied advance was during the battle of the bulge, when allied tactical air power and bombers could not fly in the bad weather. As soon as they could fly the German offensive was smashed. But the Russians had nothing like that air attack capability, range and scale and their armies were slaughtered due to it.
No they don't. Air power never won a war. We dropped more tons of bombs on Vietnam than we did Germany. So are you saying we won that war too?
Your sudden tangential diversion into a totally unrelated topic to avoid the facts of the first topic has completely avoided the need to prove your case and also rendered the German's foolish uninformed "asinine" firsthand experiences and observations entirely irrelevant. You are now a graduate of the school of doublespeak and have earned the license to rewrite history however it pleases you. lol :D
No they don't. Air power never won a war. We dropped more tons of bombs on Vietnam than we did Germany. So are you saying we won that war too?
when the Russian coalition expel the US from Syria,Iraq anytime soon, you will have to eat your own dick.
Glad to see another country allowing its children to fight one of these senseless wars. No, we do not want to go and no we have no vital interest! FU to the US media and Saudi puppets, send your kids!!
It's not as senseless for the Russkies since this is near their border. More of a real security issue for them besides the oil pipeline thingy. It would be like us fighting a foreign force in central america.
It's going to be very tense when Chinese and Iranain troops enter the battle. However, Iran is already fighting isis on their east front an dcontrol much of iraq after they were handed that country by Mr Mission Accomplished.
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Putin !!!!!!!!
Russia Today is having fun busting the lying USA MSM who used photos from 2012 in Iraq and tried to pass it off as happening yesterday.
good thing for the few of us who don't believe their lies...
No pipeline for you! NEXT!
Save Syrian people from criminal putin regime attacks and killing of inocent Syrian civilians:
https://youtu.be/ghF82AeiS6c
You don't cry much when your goddam fucking Nazi goons in Kiev butchered 4000 people in Donbass simply for voting for freedom.