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"They're Hopping Mad In The US And Saudi Arabia": Russian Strikes In Syria Spark Epic Western Media Propaganda Blitz
We are now two days into Russia’s air campaign against anti-regime forces in Syria and both Moscow and the West are rushing to spin the narrative.
The frantic attempt from both sides to shape public opinion has been truly amazing to behold and the sheer amount of coverage speaks to what we said on Thursday about just how important the conflict really is for the Mid-East balance of power.
For the US, portraying Russian airstrikes as supportive of a murderous regime and as an imminent threat to civilians is key, as it allows Washington to explain away the fact that the US and its allies haven’t coordinated their efforts with Moscow. Take the following from CNN for instance, who reports that Russia has made a “strategic blunder” and that by opening an air campaign, Russia risks raising the spectre of the Soviet-Afghan war in the minds of potential jihadists who will supposedly rush into Syria to join the fight:
There is no ambiguity now about Russia's current tactics in Syria -- they are seeking to take over the airspace in the region and be the agenda-setting force on the ground, several senior administration officials told CNN.
"Yesterday's demarche to the U.S. by Russian officials in Baghdad was clear in its intent," one senior administration official said. "Make sure you don't have anyone around ISIS targets and get out of the air."
And while U.S. officials have no plans to cede Russia any ground, they also said it appears that Russian President Vladimir Putin made a dramatic chess move that the Russians have not thought through -- one official even called it a "strategic blunder."
Had the Russians been clear that they are providing support in Syria to prevent Syrian President Bashar al-Assad regime's collapse -- a scenario that would benefit ISIS -- they might have gotten some credit on the world stage.
But their very first strikes in the region hit CIA-backed anti-Assad rebel forces, Arizona Republican John McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said Thursday on CNN's "New Day."
And U.S. officials note that every bomb against a non-ISIS Sunni target puts them more in bed with Iran and Hezbollah, which are Shiite. U.S. allies in the Persian Gulf warn that this could set off a huge sectarian conflict and that the deeper the Russians get into this, the harder officials believe it will be to get a diplomatic process with the Saudis and others restarted.
"It is going to be hugely tempting for the Saudis to start financing their guys again," another senior administration official said. "Syria will be a magnet for every jihadi, who will rush to fight the Russians, just like they did in Afghanistan. The problem is while this will cause problems for the Russians, it will also mean trouble for the Gulf, when the jihadists come home."
"The Russians can't be stupid," another senior administration official said. "This is going to be wildly expensive. And they can't hold out long. They know in the end there is no future for the guy (Assad) because the whole reason they had to come in is because Assad and his forces were extremely vulnerable. So we are hoping they will come to their senses, stabilize the situation and then we can agree on the Assad piece."
Now obviously, there are too many absurd statements there to count, but note (again) that Russia has never hid its support for Assad. When Charlie Rose told Putin on national US television that some people believe Russia is in Syria to help Assad, Putin said, quote, “well, you’re right.” On top of that, it’s glaringly obvious to anyone who knows anything about the global balance of power that Russia is there to support Assad and it's ridiculous for anyone to suggest that Putin isn't aware of the fact that by supporting the regime, Russia falls squarely on the side of Iran and Hezbollah. It’s also glaringly obvious that ISIS isn’t the only extremist group fighting for control of the country and the notion that the US has now finally managed to identify the “good guys” in Syria after failing to get it right for four years and that now evil Russia is deliberately targeting those good guys simply because they’re the good guys is laughable to the point that one wonders if CNN and others pushed back on being compelled to spin it that way. Additionally, it’s a little late for the US to be concerned about someone inadvertently creating a theatre that in the minds of jihadis will serve as the stage for humanity’s final battle. If Washington was worried about that they might have avoided getting involved in Syria in the first place and they definitely would have avoided training the soldiers who would go on to join the very group that’s perpetuating that idea.
And then here’s WSJ:
The White House challenged Russia’s claim that the airstrikes were targeting Islamic State militants, saying Thursday that Moscow was carrying out “indiscriminate military operations” in areas where the group isn't operating. A White House official also dismissed the possibility that Russia had inadvertently bombed non-Islamic State areas. U.S. officials say the Russian military bombed one area primarily held by rebels backed by the Central Intelligence Agency and allied spy services.
Contrary to claims by the Russian Ministry of Defense, none of the areas that were hit have a known Islamic State presence. At least two of the rebel factions attacked by the Russians—Tajamu Al-Ezzeh and the Central Division—have received weapons including advanced antitank missiles and funding from the U.S. and its allies, according to rebel leaders.
The arc that the Russian airstrikes followed begins around the town of Jisr al-Shughour in northern Idlib province near the Turkish border and adjacent to an agricultural area known as the Ghab Plain. It cuts through the central Syrian cities of Hama and Homs and ends at the Lebanese border.
Alawites—the regime’s base of support—are concentrated west of the arc in an area that includes Latakia province.
Everything east is dominated by the country’s Sunni majority, to which most of those fighting the regime belong.
A series of tit-for-tat massacres during the more than four-year conflict have solidified this sectarian fault line.
Yes, the “sectarian fault line” has been solidified and that is a hallmark of Western intervention in the Mid-East. Syria is no different.
And BBC:
Members of the US-led coalition against Islamic State have called on Russia to cease air strikes they say are hitting the Syrian opposition and civilians.
In a joint statement on Friday, the US, UK, Turkey and other coalition members said Russian strikes would "only fuel more extremism".
And best of all there's Al-Jazeera (which is of course owned by Qatar), who takes it up another notch by suggesting that Russia is now intentionally killing civilians:
Russia accused of striking civilian targets in Syria
Activists say warplanes are targeting civilians in areas under control of Western-backed rebels, a claim Russia denies.
For their part, Bloomberg did the American public a favor by laying out the real story, albeit in an article that carries the title "US, Allies Demand Russia Stop Attacks On Syrian Opposition":
Russian forces are targeting only Islamic State, al-Qaeda affiliated Nusra Front and other terrorist groups, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Thursday in New York. The Free Syrian Army, a U.S-backed rebel group, was not among the targets and it should have a role in the political process in Syria, he added.
“The goal is terrorism,” he said. “And we are not supporting anyone against their own people.”
Assad’s government has been fighting alongside Iranian reinforcements to secure a corridor from the coastal province of Latakia, home to Assad’s Alawite minority, stretching to the capital Damascus, according to Reva Bhalla, vice president for analysis at Stratfor, a geopolitical intelligence and advisory firm based in Austin, Texas. The government has accused Qatar and Saudi Arabia of backing “terror groups,” and dismissed the criticism.
“They’re hopping mad in Saudi Arabia, the U.S. And Qatar because of their defeat and the victory of Russia and Syria and the unraveling of the fact that the U.S. and its allies are not serious about fighting” Islamic State, Syrian lawmaker Sharif Shehadeh said by phone from Damascus. “Those who claim to be concerned about the Syrian people are the ones slaughtering the Syrian people through the terrorists.”
There you go. That last passage pretty much says it all.
Meanwhile, the Russian propaganda machine is also in high gear as The Kremlin is jumping at the opportunity to portray Putin as the man who saved the world when no one else was willing to. Here's Bloomberg again:
Vladimir Putin may have caught the U.S. and its allies off guard by striking Syria, but his propaganda machine was ready.
“A hundred dead terrorists,” a news presenter on Russia’s No. 2 network announced early Thursday, just hours after the bombing of what Putin has called “evil-doers” began. She then cut to a correspondent in Syria who lauded the precision of the strikes as aerial footage of the attacks supplied by the Defense Ministry aired.
Over on Channel 1, the most-watched station, a parade of politicians, analysts and religious leaders -- both Christian and Muslim -- rolled by justifying the use of force on both legal and moral grounds.
“This is more than just military strikes against Islamic State,” said the editor of National Defense magazine, Igor Korotchenko, after parliament unanimously authorized the use of force. “We are protecting the values of humanity and taking a stand against the most extreme forms of obscurantism and terror.”
What's amusing there is that as overstated as it is, that narrative is actually closer to the truth than what's being fed to the public by the Western media.
In any event, the important thing here is to cut through all of this and extract the bits that help to tell the story of what's actually taking place in Syria. As we detailed on Thursday, this is effectively a Mid-East coup by Russia and Iran wherein Tehran will replace Riyadh as the regional power broker and Moscow will supplant Washington as the superpower puppet master. And on that note, we close with another excerpt from the WSJ piece cited above:
Iran’s Foreign Ministry welcomed Russia’s military intervention in Syria on Thursday, saying it was the right step to fight terrorism and a move toward bringing stability to the region.
“Fighting terrorism effectively requires a strong and serious will and has to be based on cooperation with the governments of Iraq and Syria,” Marzieh Afkham, spokeswoman for the ministry, said according to Iranian media reports.
Ibrahim al-Amin, a Lebanese commentator and newspaper editor close to Hezbollah and Iran, said Moscow essentially provided a green light for a counteroffensive against rebels across the political spectrum.
“From our side, we can no longer ignore the decision of the axis of resistance, backed by Russia, to not only prevent Assad’s fall but to also weaken all his foes. All his foes without any distinction,” wrote Mr. Amin in the Lebanese daily Al-Akhbar on Thursday.
“We must benefit from Russian support to launch tough and decisive battles in several places in Syria,” he added.
Before the latest Russian intervention, Iran played a pivotal role propping-up pro-regime militias made up largely of Alawites and Shiites. It has orchestrated thousands of Shiite fighters mainly from Lebanon and Iraq with Hezbollah being in the lead.
But thousands of rebels regrouped in several enclaves north of Homs, in towns like al-Rastan and Talbiseh. Russian jets hit both civilian and military targets in these two towns and five surrounding villages, said Rashid al-Hourani, a Syrian army officer from the area who defected to the rebels in 2012.
He said the airstrikes were followed with a barrage of artillery fire from several nearby positions where pro-regime Alawite and Shiite militias, including an Iran-backed group known as the Ridha Brigade, have been massing over the past few days.
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Ou here you are slimy.. good boy... still don't miss any of my comments and always is here when I command you :D ha ha ha.. but you have not learned any tricks since last time. I told you - pissing your self is not a trick. When you will understand it? So how about a bark? Bark slimey! Bark!
:D
hahaha, I heard your asshole is waiting for FalconFlight's meathood.
Thanks for showing what kind of shit for brains potato farmer you are.
ROFLMAO.
That's a good boy slimy - I command yo to bark and you follow it. Ha ha ha :D
How does it feel for you to be such pathetic puppy? ha ha ha
Your boss overpaid for you.
pods
My guess this douche works for some child molesters outfit...I mean British government.... Hmmm, is there any difference?
3 weeks 6 days.
Message is not a very good liar or propagandist.
That happens when you only have ONE fucking BRAIN CELL.
Do Message and Falconflight share that brain cell, I wonder how that works, three days a week each and every other Sunday??
Message is not a very good liar or propagandist.
That happens when you only have ONE fucking BRAIN CELL.
Save ZH viewers from your inane comments so please self immolate.
I love the smell of roast potatoes in the morning...
Ahh, Message is posting, it means it must be falconflights turn to give head...
Message is the catcher, FalconFlight is the pitcher.
Massage is a three week member. Propaganda machine is on full overdrive.
To be fair, Message is the Nth incarnation of an old member viedoklis_lv.
As for his posting, it's more akin to comedy than to propaganda.
That's how I can tell it's propaganda. If it makes you laugh and comes from the State Department, it's propaganda.
Good point. :)
Except, in this case it's more likely the Mental Health Department.
Not that it makes much difference.
Quite right. "newsoutlet" was another recent handle of his.
Did they expect us to treat them with any respect?
Yeh, that means you 'exceptional' ones...FUCK OFF home,no-body wants you!They can polish their medals and sharpen their smiles
And please themselves by playing games for a while
Boom boom, bang bang, lie down you're dead
Americans are exceptional at failure too! John McCaine went to the congress floor last night and complained that Obama is not doing enough to stabilize a region on the other side of the world, with institutions, cultures and religions that are thousands of years old.
There is only one way to fix this. we need to pay higher taxes in the 200 year old USA! That will send a message to the ruskie commies !
/sarc
McCain needs a polonium sandwich or a bullet in head. Which ever is cheapest.
The epithet "Wet Start" should always be placed before his name.
I like ''Sings like a Canary'' better. or Hanoi Hiltons most gifted fellatio specialist.
Shooting down 5 enemy plane earns a fighter pilot the title of "Ace." In the U.S. Navy, McCain was called "Reverse Ace" because he lost 5 Navy planes.
And as terrible as Obama is, I think back to 2008 and remember that the alternative was warhawk McCain! And today, as Obama leads us to complete moral failure, we are being offered up more warmongers in leadership for the next election. And that's why I am willing to give a nutjob like Sanders a chance, and Trump seems the best of them all.
Fuck you, McStain, Jeb, Hillary, Barry, Carly, Marco, Ted, Joe B, Horseketchup, Nuudles, and everyone else I can't think of right now!
Well, if you want war, I think you are going to get what you want.
Looks like criminal putin regime is more brutal than assad regime and so putin regime want to show world that he can kill more civilians than assad regime:
ISTANBUL — The drones had been flying overhead for days, and everyone in Talbiseh felt a sense of dread. When the jets flew overhead on Wednesday there was almost no warning before they dropped their payloads.
“We are used to Syrian planes; they hover for five minutes or more before they carry the raid out.” recalls Omar Qayson, a 19-year-old activist who lives about two miles from the small city north of Homs. It was targeted in Russian air raids on Wednesday and Thursday. “But Wednesday’s raid was quick and sudden. It was surprising. There is usually an alarm that goes off in the town that allows people to hide in the shelters, but not this time.”
Claiming to spearhead a fight against ISIS, Russia launched airstrikes on the northwest of Syria as part of what appeared to be a bold gambit to shore up the regime of Bashar al-Assad and fight off rebels advancing on his strongholds. But witnesses to the Russian air strikes in Syria described scenes of civilians caught up in the carnage and feared that Moscow intended to pursue the same brutal Assad strategy that has led to tens of thousands of civilian deaths.
“They targeted civilians,” said Hassan al-Araj, a doctor who was treating casualties from the strikes in the province of Hama, speaking to BuzzFeed News by phone. He said that raids by Russian jets in two villages had killed at least one woman and wounded eight civilians, some of them in critical condition.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/borzoudaragahi/what-its-like-to-be-a-syrian-civi...
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare
You're hilarious...Quoting Buzzfeed and Times of Israel, Zionist propaganda machines...
Hey, guess what, Jewboy, there is no God and even if there was he'd hate YOU kikes. Now go and masturbate over your pictures of dead Palestinian kids you fuckin' Untermenschen.
You're such a douche "Message".
I feel the butthurt growing very strong in your handlers. Tell them to let it flow through their bodies.
MUAHHAHAHA
Barry is pushing Angela in the arms of Vlad
I'd say aiding and abetting sworn enemies of the United States (any Sunni terrorist organization) classifies as treason of the worst kind.
Now that their treason/war crimes are obvious for all to see, when can we arrest the progressive criminals of the obirdbrain regime and CONgress?
Grimaldus
You're forgetting The divine right of Presidents
Message from Vlad and 99 percent of ZH to the Latvian Loser, MESSAGE
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/youare
Washington is schizophrenic.
Who can tell what they really want? There is no unified policy. There has not been a genuine policy for years.
It seems that with one hand they send troops and planes to Iraq...who genuinely believe they are there to fight ISIS, and by all accounts are fighting ISIS.
And with the other hand certain intelligence organs of the state (or Deep State?) work on the opposite side of that same conflict in direct controvention of Washington's statements, and the Nation's military operations.
The question is not what Washington wants. Washington is schizophrenic and disfunctional. It wants everything and nothing...and chiefly it wants more money and power for itself... But again, it is disfunctional and hence its desires are irrelevant.
No, the compelling question is this:
WHO IS IN CHARGE OF THE INTELLIGENCE ORGANS THAT CONTINUE TO SUPPORT ISIS IN SYRIA???? WHO IS FUNDING THEM? WHO IS DIRECTING THEM? DO THEY ANSWER TO THE UNITED STATES AT ALL???
USA/Israel's plan has always been to create CHAOS. Too bad Vlad is putting a screeching halt to that..
I wonder if .gov isn't really at war with itself, deepstate vs. ?
The wild card is Ramzan Kadyrov, who said yesterday that he could form a Sunni army to fight ISIS on the ground -- and conveniently liquidate Chechen rebels who joined ISIS and might come back to Russia and challenge his power. Kadyrov upset the Saudis by supporting madrasas in Chechnya, and luring Islamic scholars from Riyadh to Grozny. His goal is to build his power base not just on Chechen loyalty but on broader islamic credentials. Forming a pro-Assad Sunni army would do just that.
Good luck with that. Saudi inspired jihadis will now flow like water into Syria and Iraq. You haven't seen anything yet.
Are these the same 'Hardcore Saudis' that can't beat the poorest country in the Middle East (Yemen)...yeh, I'm sure the Russians are quaking in their boots...LOL
They probably hire Pakis to carry their packs. I can't imagine Saudis being effective at all.
The term "perfumed prince" was likely created specifically to describe male members of the Saudi royal family.
These guys are experts at "leading from behind" letting Xe and Bechtel contractors do the heavy lifting. The *real* problem for the Saudi royal family and particular their armed forces is that they will spread thin *really* quickly and run out of money. There are only so many quality Xe and Bechtel mercenaries to go around, and the Paki substitutes will f*** things up...
Like they didn't have enough "inspiration" already.
It seems you have fallen to the MSM inspired misconception that most muslims are suicidal zealots. Nothing could be further from truth.
If anything, their number is going to dwindle, as the smarter ones start abandoning the sinking ship.
I'd say we've already seen quite enough, Akiva.
Whether it's skumbag terrorists from KSA, Turkey, Qatar, etc., or israel killing Palestinian women and children to show us how tough and brave they are.
Enough is enough.
The vile House of Saud may need them in Yemen wher ethe Saudis are getting their asses kicked. Iran or even hezbollah could take Saudi Arabia in about a week.
Those Sauid royals little bitches better just shut up and be quiet. They are tough when arguing with meter maids in London but on a battlefield the Saudis are little chickenshits.
Here is one getting a beat down by a NYC cop. LOL!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lKwkn6JT74
Kadyrov wants to be first Russian force into battle in Syria
To kill "devils'
ah good old BBC. If US, British or Israeli planes kill civilians it's "unfortunate" or "regrettable" or "the terrorists are hiding amongst them". if Russia, Syria or Iran does it, we get something like "brutal tyrants using barrel bombs to kill babies".
British Buggering Children. a vile an organisation as FOXCNNABCCBSNBC.
What child wouldn't want to be killed by a Sidewinder missile fired from a Predator drone, instead of some stupid "barrel bomb?"
Our media is sooooooo fucking corrupt.
“We are protecting the values of humanity and taking a stand against the most extreme forms of obscurantism and terror.” But this is no propaganda. Russia is not a perfect country of course, but Americans still seem oblivious about geography and about the realities of the world. Putin was in a very similar position as Assad in his first term as president. What do you naive people think war in Chechnya was??? That was no fight for independence, the radical Chechens explicitly stated their intention to create an „islamic caliphate“ in Russia. And Putin began the Chechen War only after these Chechens invaded another muslim Russian republic – Dagestan, which was not any attempt for independence, but a clear military agression. Putin himself said that he knew that these Chechen terrorists were backed by CIA and he even called president Bush about this, Bush promised him to „do something about it“, but of course he never did.
If the Islamic State takes over Syria and grows, it may spread to post-Soviet republics, which are mostly muslim. Then radical islam will be right at Russia's border. Can't you really see that this is a huge threat to the security of Russia itself? This is why Russia cannot and will not give up Syria.
And why should Russia care about what the USA or Saudi Arabia thinks, when those two supported and financed muslim terrorists in Russia itself (and still do). Do you think that Russians are stupid or what??? Neither Iran, nor Syria, nor Hezbollah have ever hurt Russia in any way. The other side has been trying to destabilize and destroy Russia itself since 1990s. So whose side should Russia really be on?
This is not about any stupid pipelines or such. Russia is fighting for its survival against the attack led by NWO. And that is why Russians are right, when they say that they are protecting the values of humanity. Russia only defends its survival and its sovereignty and, thereby, also survival and sovereignty of Syria, Iran etc.
Hitler tried, and failed. Obviously Putin isn't so easily intimidated and is playing a strategically flawlessly game against the scum. He obviously learned a thing or two on how to handle these idiots. In one move, Putin changed the whole game. It's beyond brilliant. Thank God that many people have already woken up from the deep slumber of MSM. There is a reason they never managed to get approval for bombing Syria in the first place. People aren't buying their shit anymore.
Oh when the day comes for the Rotschilds, Rockefellers and their ilk to dig their own graves! Bibis, Bushes, Henrys, Clintons, Obamas. The worst filth this earth has to offer.
&Cheney & Soros & Nuland & Kissinger
Alas, Babylon anyone? I know I sound like a broken record, but either Pat Frank could see the future, or someone is following his script:
"The story shifts briefly to the eastern Mediterranean, where a United States fleet is being shadowed by enemy aircraft. Then it moves to the Omaha airport, where Helen Bragg gives an unhappy goodbye to her husband Mark and then takes her children, Peyton and Ben Franklin, on a plane to Orlando to meet Randy. In the Mediterranean, meanwhile, an American pilot pursues the enemy plane and fires on it — and misses, hitting a harbor in Syria, which is an ally of the Soviet Union."
"“Peewee may be a mouse aboard ship, but he’s a tiger in a Tiger. If I sent him up with orders to shoot the moon, he’d try.” (Chapter 4, p. 61)These words describe Ensign James “Peewee” Cobb, the meek-looking U.S. fighter pilot who accidentally bombs the Syrian port of Latakia, setting off a global war. The incident shows the role of accident and foolish pride in war. A catastrophic war begins, in part, because wimpy Peewee has something to prove."
You know what is going to happen now. Not only will the US back off on hitting ISIS, but the CIA, Turks, Saudis, and Qatar will be backing ISIS to the max. Jazzed up to 11. Jihadis and $$ will flow to ISIS faster than ever before. Eventually, Russia will lose and ISIS will get their Caliphate.
I don't think so. I think before that happens you will see the Russian flag flying over Riyahd and Qatar and Ankara.
Saudi royal family in a penal colony in Siberia. I like it. It would definitely awaken their proletariat consciousness or something like that.
but now we are good buddies with Iran thanks to 0bamas fantastic new treaty with iran, and iran thinks the russian are doing the right thing the US angry at...itself? totallyfubar!
Yeah, another hogwash. All go, but in hysterics.
Jihadis and $$ will flow to ISIS faster than ever...
Are you saying they'll all be heading back home now? And that's a problem?
Just trying to understand.
Iran or even Hezbollah could take Saudi Arabia or Qatar in a week or less. Americans will not want their kids to keep dying for the Saudis or Qatar. china might like that Saudi oil or Qatari wealth too.
After demonizing ISIS and/or al Quada for the past 15 years, it might be a little more difficult to get the American people to go along with turning on a dime and overtly supporting these terrorists.
Give it a few weeks.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone high up gets "accidentaly" shot during some hunting season in TEH land of the free.
"Sir, we're pumping the bullshit out as fast as we can, but the people are laughing at us and won't believe it."
.....
"Yes Sir, double shifts."
We are seeing the hyperinflation of US/UK government lies. Their lies are losing value faster than they can print them. Reading the comments beneath obvious propaganda stories at the Telegraph or Daily Mail etc you find that 90%+ of the posters see right though the lies and are supporting Putin's actions. It gives me hope for humanity.
Waiting for the daily Telegraph will write about that again Jesus came to earth, but Putin shot him.
Ugly Carly (who's mouth is her most revolting feature) is a warmonger. Anyway, here's another example of how stupid she is:
Ms. Fiorina’s trainwreck stint at HP has been well documented. But I want to address one tiny but telling aspect of her misbegotten reign: an episode that involved her good friend Steve Jobs. It is the story of the HP iPod.
https://medium.com/backchannel/how-steve-jobs-fleeced-carly-fiorina-79d1...
From the linked Article:
"Nonetheless, HP still managed to botch things. It could not have been otherwise, really, because Steve Jobs totally outsmarted the woman who now claims she can run the United States of America."
Intelligence, Smartness are not requirements to be POTUS as can be readily discerned by present and past presidents.
If some clueless Americans who believe each and every regurgitated peacemaker (we are there for humanitarian reasons! lol) article about Syria would look at a f*cking map of Syria/Middle East/Russia/China - they might be able to figure out WTF is going on.
We've been f*cking around for 4 years arming and backing anti-Assad forces resulting in untold blood and death. Spending who knows how many billions of $. And the idiot trusting Americans are being fed that the Russians are destabilizing it? And believing it? Talk to any typical person and you'll see how the TPTB explanation and description is being bought hook, line, and sinker. Zero independent thought after due consideration of all factors and news sources.
Ignorance abounds. No one realizes how long Syria has been a strong Russian ally. No one considers the Syria gas pipeline geographic/control issues behind so much of this conflict. They simply will not realize nor comprehend that Russia/China/Iran/Iraq will not BEND OVER like everyone else has and America expects. Nor should they. America has raped and pillaged the Middle East for decades accelerated by 9/11. It's about time somebody STOOD UP. Too bad naive Americans cannot see why they did act as they have and maybe actually apply some thought to the Middle East situation in full context.
a long time ally since the days of the ussr
http://sptnkne.ws/Qe3
Syrian rebels shot down Russian fighter jet. Hey, it's a good start.
Yeah, GO terrorist scumbags...Try not to cum on your keyboard over it, Hymie.
They'll pay for it.
Yet another poorly prepared photoshop, based on footage from the 'Mig Mig' video (words shouted in English) that was mentioned some time ago in a ZH post. The big logo in the top right corner masks the plane firing the air-ground missiles that the ISIS-lovers claim to be a shot-down MiG. Try harder, scumbag fuckers.
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF...
ZIO Media - those Harlots Of Hypocrisy - squealing like stuck pigs.
They've been found out. They know it. Their day is done. BYE BYE!
The US is absolutely pissed because they had just lined up the air forces of their lackeys like the UK as cover for a massive increase in air strikes on Assad, UK is moving to a vote shortly on this, and if passed this would be Libya Pt2. Putin knew this and moved first. Now this is stymied and they are FURIOUS.
PS Everybody and their cat knows UK and US special forces are in Syria co ordinating the Islamic Fundamentalists acting on their paymasters behalf. Although ground forces have been ruled out for the time being, expect plenty of Russian special forces activity now. Plus China joining in soon.
So why can't the US government just stop being evil and stop killing innocent people? Just let it go. The people would welcome anyone who had the will and morals to stop (especially since they would most likely be targeted by the controllers) as a hero.
Anyone with 1/2 a brain knows that the western propagandists are lying... and more and more and more people are seeing it... because the lies make no sense.
Ya know what though, I would be willing to hear an HONEST explanation of why people must be killed and why it is not evil. I just don't think they have such an explanation.
My my, the Rooskie troll propaganda machine is busy today.
Busy sending each other messages on this web site.
Having a little Hen party
Says the little fucktard Jew pig bastard with one brain cell.
Duchess is that you? I'd recognize that brand of hate in your pros anywhere. Take one shot for every time you've wrote Jew or kike in this thread. Drink drink drink
Here is my DD214, punk
Does't the IDF or JIDF issue those?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/g8efwkcpjdd9vcu/dd2142.JPG?dl=0
I do not think that anyone on this website wishes the US people any ill will. I certainly do not. Heck, I live here and am very pleased to live here. I cannot imagine living anywhere else.
The issue is that the US government continually acts against the best interests of the American people. We do not recognize what the US government has become.
The lies, hypocrisy and corruption are very hard to deal with and understand. There is nothing so important that should cause leaders to intentionally break the trust that has been given them and act dishonorably. People as a whole ARE NOT evil. We can be weak and fallable, but not inherently evil. That being said, there is seemingly some inherently evil force driving the actions of the US government. It is sad and frightening.
As for globalization, I am divided. i do business globally and all of the people I have met around the world are pretty much like us and there would be benefits from breaking down barriers and integrating. That being said, I believe it would be a total disaster to have the whole world under the same evil influence.
Thank you for your clear, level headed comment, that accurately describes the evil in our government without insulting the citizenry, like a certain comic book character troll thats lurks here is apt to do....
Are you a real person or one of those propaganda App's they've been testing lately?
Hard to tell the difference between a really stupid human or a machine programmed by a really stupid human.
Hey asswipe, do you have friends among the terrorist skumbags Russia is bombing? 'Casue the way I see it, the only "people" who would be against this are skumbags themselves: Qatar, israel, Saudia Arabia, the destabilization queens in the State Dept and CIA.
Maybe you and the other butthurt trolls find new jobs raping each other's mothers.
Russia needs to start carpet bombing where ISIS and Al-Nusra are. and do it QUICK
The US media will create llies anyway so go for it.
Do not despair. Eventualy folks will get bored of the US media and will find Russian live video footage to be more fun to watch.
Whoever controls the airspace will control the narrative. They can lie all they want.
Should we expect a line in the sand?
I recall Saudi intelligence chief "Prince Bandar" threatening Putin before the Russian summer Olympics in 2013. "According to a diplomatic leak detailing the Bandar-Putin meeting in Moscow on July 31, Bandar suggested that Putin's agreement to abandon the government of Bashar al-Assad would lead Saudi Arabia to restrain its Chechen terrorist clients who have been attacking Russia targets for years. Putin reportedly grew furious, interpreting Bandar's offer as a warning that the Sochi games would be threatened by terrorism if Putin didn't comply."
Arabs have an IQ in the low eighties.
It is NOT supprising at all that the U.S. has 'backed up.' The Chinese have entered the conflict by putting a newly renovated aircraft carrier and a guided missile cruiser in Syrian waters. Apparently, the Chinese also plan to add some troops as does the rest of the Russian block of nations. Also Putin has ordered the 'conscription' of 150,000 Russians into the Russian military -- This signals some serious intent on the part of Russia. By the way, Russia has also installed and is enhancing its surface to air missile batteries in Syria as well as using drones in the conflict area.
I doubt there will be any full scale ground troop deployment, at least not for now, more like extensive special forces deployment, which together with the newly strengthened air capability will allow Assad's boots on the ground to march in and take their territory back following heavy softening up.
...there is reason to suspect that CSTO (NATO counterpart) forces are already there and will be bolstered by Quds. Hizb forces rotated out to guard against Israeli mischief at home. Russian troops are highly unlikely to have significant presence other than defend coastal installations and training/support modes. Seems a General Gerasimov is in charge of the theater of war...I'd hate to be on the receiving end of his force projection! I suspect the draft notice is to bolster homeland defense against NATO mischief in the Baltics or Ukraine.
The conscription notice is a regular annual consciption notice for the ordinary Russian military. It has nothing to do with Syria. Putin has obtained Duma approval for use of air-power to aid Syria. Ground troops were specifically excluded. The only possible exception to that would be small scale security forces for the airfields hosting Russian aircraft.
If any article regarding Syria/Russia originates in the western (US/UK/EU/Australia/Zionistan) MSM then it should be regarded as BS until proven otherwise.
When Gorbachev pulled out of Afghan he invited Reagan to support a transitional Afghan Government - had he done so Pakistan would not have pushed Taliban to secure its control of events.
The Russians already have Chechens fighting with ISIS and China has Uighurs fighting there - they want to kill them before the Us helps them go home. The whole Muslim Jihadi binge was propagated by MI6 and CIA and cutouts over years to destabilise - not to build - but to create turmoil in areas with high male birth rates.
Russia and China are not going to let the Anglos push Islamic Jihadism into their societies as a means of splintering China and Russia. THey will simply tell the Western Media to go back to their paymasters
Stop Putin, Save our Moderate Al Qaeda Allies in Syria!! </fullonbullshitmode>
Bullies always get their comeuppance. ALWAYS!!!
Fuck the USA/Israel
Fuck the precision strikes Vlad
Unload on them . carpet bomb the living FUCK out of them.
One thing Russia won't do and should NOT do , is take any prisoners.
except for maybe the obvious paid mercs... allow them to confess on camera what they have done and who their masters are
I like Russia/China tag team match on ISIS/Al-Nusra/Al-Qaeda
Dupe deletion.
I'm pretty sure the only people who watch this stuff, albeit believe it, are people who are too old to get up and walk away, i.e. boomers. As for the rest of us, I'm hoplful, not so much. America's credibility is through the floor. At this stage who would believe anything the criminal organization otherwise known as THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA has to say! False flag in 3, 2, 1 ...
It is all clear to me now. To be a loyal and patriotic american, I have to pick some tribe in a desert showdown on the other side of the fucking world. Go team!
The US/Saudi/Cia/Mossad scum (Axis of Evil) war propaganda is based on lies and deceit, their paid/trained proxy foreign mercenaries terrorists in Iraq and Syria should be eradicated and rightfully so.!
Can't help but root for the Ruskie's on this one.
Members of the US-led coalition against Islamic State have called on Russia to cease air strikes they say are hitting the Syrian opposition and civilians.
God, how hypocritical can you get??? How many civilians has the USA and their allies killed via bombings, drones, you name it! Then you have George Soros' group "The White Hats" posting so-called "evidence" that Russia is hurting children with their airstrikes - the only problem was that the photo release by the Soros gang was dated 5 days BEFORE the Russian air strikes even occurred. You would think that the neo-cons would have learned their lesson about using fake photo evidence when they used 7 year old images to prove that Russian tanks were invading the Donbass in Ukraine . . . . .
Thanks for the info linking 'White Hats' to Soros. I have come across references to 'White Hats' but knew nothing of them.
They are actually called "White Helmets" not "White Hats" - I screwed up when I wrote my original comment. 1/2 dozen of one, six of the other . . . . . bottom line is they are up to no good, which is par for the course for ANY group funded by that fucking Nazi Soros.
As you say, any link to Soros is a dead giveaway. A guess some 'white helmets' may be naieve fools but they will be directed by people who are most definitely not.
You would think that USAmericans would demand more than just photographs.
Why not a live feed from Google satellites?
The deluded Western elites are seen by the world for what they are. Bloodthirsty lunatics.
So much for putin regime aviation - just in 2 days has lost already 3 jets in Syria. With such speed of failure putin regime will run out of jets very soon. So... go putin in Syria... I guess :D
Soon there won't be ruskie jets anymore.
https://youtu.be/jzOf9p08HK0
https://www.facebook.com/roissya24/videos/1613612342235478/
Booom!
My guess is that you will not be seeing a video of a Russian pilot being burned alive in the coming days.
You spend an awful lot of time here on ZH trying to influence people. You must have realized by now that no one is buying your West propaganda crap. It's over. The fact that Obama couldn't even get the Congress or people of the US to bomb Syria last year should tell you that the scales are shifting. And now, Putin has undressed your toyboy Obama, Isreal and Saudis. In one move!
FFS message, get a grip of yourself.
I'm almost starting to feel sorry for you.
Almost.
Fucktard MESSAGE is trying to set a new world record for down votes.
bs
Message is a total RETARD. He is a masochist.
JTRIG twat
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/previous-episodes-of-zealo...
When we get serious about ISIS, the propaganda will be very different.
It will be even more interesting if China joins Russia in its activities.
http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/
Check out Syria on this map.
They are really hammering the area with bombs.
everyone wants to throw bombs in there
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poor people just cant catch a break
I doubt there will be any full scale ground troop deployment, at least not for now, more like extensive special forces deployment, which together with the newly strengthened air capability will allow Assad's boots on the ground to march in and take their territory back following heavy softening up.
Insanity. What? The west will start supporting jihad? John McCain will refer to it as democratic jihad.
I don't own a TV but I was talking to one of my friends yesterday who stated you can't flip a channel on the boob tube and not hear some asshat whining about the terrible horrible Putin.
Most of those commenters on the Boob tube coundn't find Syria on the map or thsir ass wit both hands.
Which goes to show that Puti is getting something right.
'They are hopping mad in USA and Sauid''
Mad= crazy in British English
so they got that headline 100 percent correct.
I guess Americans love ISIS and terrorists more than Putin
Fuckin idiots.
I assume you're referring to the ZioCons who control America rather than the American people themselves?
I think he's on about the democratically elected government, the voice and the will of the American people.
Maybe not all of them, but certainly the majority...that's why it's a democracy, right?
We are handed a couple of shitty people to vote for.
A choice between a giant douche and a Shit Sandwich.
Looking forward to see the chinese get involved to shut US's mouth.. I want to see some Chinese fighter planes in action... then see US allies run like rats.
Then lots of Iran mechanized to wipe up the scum
USA/UK/Israel the REAL axis of evil
You forgot to include the Chinese horde on horseback, aweeping across the plains.
yes that would be special
No fucktard, that would be Mongol horde you ignorant tool you, and no, they're Turks now, America's bitch.
Why should Russia waste money on percesion weapons when gravity ones are much cheaper... save the perscision weapons for US Israel and Saudi to make sure they are dead
I like this guy!
The US just got all new outer casings for their nuclear gravity bombs in Germany.
They are not required to be too precise for obvious reasons.
Russia's military exists for the defense of Russia's national interests. The US military exists to feed the MIC. So in Russia, cheap and exffective is optimum, whilst in the US, expensive and defective is optimim.
if USA loves the rebels so much let them immigrate to USA and rape your women... fools
Fucktard MESSAGE is trying to set a new world record for down votes.
Doing real good job
JTRIG need to be more subtle.
"In a joint statement on Friday, the US, UK, Turkey and other coalition members said Russian strikes would "only fuel more extremism".
I don't know how extremism can be any more fueled than it was already.
They are just pissed off that Russia is doing what they cannot or will not do.
dumb US and allies say Russia air strikes make the matter worse, but US generals said fight against ISIS would take 50 years. What a joke western and saudi are.... they need to be castrated
Generals planned on milking it for 50 years. All hail the MIC.
I hope the Russians bomb Saudi Ariaba back to the stone age and destroy thier oil fields, down to nut bolt and washer size, that will fix these criminals who hold the world hostage! I am ashamed of being an American because the American Ideal is dead dead and more dead. We are ruled by a police state, where's the fucking astroid when we need one?