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"They're Hopping Mad In The US And Saudi Arabia": Russian Strikes In Syria Spark Epic Western Media Propaganda Blitz
We are now two days into Russia’s air campaign against anti-regime forces in Syria and both Moscow and the West are rushing to spin the narrative.
The frantic attempt from both sides to shape public opinion has been truly amazing to behold and the sheer amount of coverage speaks to what we said on Thursday about just how important the conflict really is for the Mid-East balance of power.
For the US, portraying Russian airstrikes as supportive of a murderous regime and as an imminent threat to civilians is key, as it allows Washington to explain away the fact that the US and its allies haven’t coordinated their efforts with Moscow. Take the following from CNN for instance, who reports that Russia has made a “strategic blunder” and that by opening an air campaign, Russia risks raising the spectre of the Soviet-Afghan war in the minds of potential jihadists who will supposedly rush into Syria to join the fight:
There is no ambiguity now about Russia's current tactics in Syria -- they are seeking to take over the airspace in the region and be the agenda-setting force on the ground, several senior administration officials told CNN.
"Yesterday's demarche to the U.S. by Russian officials in Baghdad was clear in its intent," one senior administration official said. "Make sure you don't have anyone around ISIS targets and get out of the air."
And while U.S. officials have no plans to cede Russia any ground, they also said it appears that Russian President Vladimir Putin made a dramatic chess move that the Russians have not thought through -- one official even called it a "strategic blunder."
Had the Russians been clear that they are providing support in Syria to prevent Syrian President Bashar al-Assad regime's collapse -- a scenario that would benefit ISIS -- they might have gotten some credit on the world stage.
But their very first strikes in the region hit CIA-backed anti-Assad rebel forces, Arizona Republican John McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said Thursday on CNN's "New Day."
And U.S. officials note that every bomb against a non-ISIS Sunni target puts them more in bed with Iran and Hezbollah, which are Shiite. U.S. allies in the Persian Gulf warn that this could set off a huge sectarian conflict and that the deeper the Russians get into this, the harder officials believe it will be to get a diplomatic process with the Saudis and others restarted.
"It is going to be hugely tempting for the Saudis to start financing their guys again," another senior administration official said. "Syria will be a magnet for every jihadi, who will rush to fight the Russians, just like they did in Afghanistan. The problem is while this will cause problems for the Russians, it will also mean trouble for the Gulf, when the jihadists come home."
"The Russians can't be stupid," another senior administration official said. "This is going to be wildly expensive. And they can't hold out long. They know in the end there is no future for the guy (Assad) because the whole reason they had to come in is because Assad and his forces were extremely vulnerable. So we are hoping they will come to their senses, stabilize the situation and then we can agree on the Assad piece."
Now obviously, there are too many absurd statements there to count, but note (again) that Russia has never hid its support for Assad. When Charlie Rose told Putin on national US television that some people believe Russia is in Syria to help Assad, Putin said, quote, “well, you’re right.” On top of that, it’s glaringly obvious to anyone who knows anything about the global balance of power that Russia is there to support Assad and it's ridiculous for anyone to suggest that Putin isn't aware of the fact that by supporting the regime, Russia falls squarely on the side of Iran and Hezbollah. It’s also glaringly obvious that ISIS isn’t the only extremist group fighting for control of the country and the notion that the US has now finally managed to identify the “good guys” in Syria after failing to get it right for four years and that now evil Russia is deliberately targeting those good guys simply because they’re the good guys is laughable to the point that one wonders if CNN and others pushed back on being compelled to spin it that way. Additionally, it’s a little late for the US to be concerned about someone inadvertently creating a theatre that in the minds of jihadis will serve as the stage for humanity’s final battle. If Washington was worried about that they might have avoided getting involved in Syria in the first place and they definitely would have avoided training the soldiers who would go on to join the very group that’s perpetuating that idea.
And then here’s WSJ:
The White House challenged Russia’s claim that the airstrikes were targeting Islamic State militants, saying Thursday that Moscow was carrying out “indiscriminate military operations” in areas where the group isn't operating. A White House official also dismissed the possibility that Russia had inadvertently bombed non-Islamic State areas. U.S. officials say the Russian military bombed one area primarily held by rebels backed by the Central Intelligence Agency and allied spy services.
Contrary to claims by the Russian Ministry of Defense, none of the areas that were hit have a known Islamic State presence. At least two of the rebel factions attacked by the Russians—Tajamu Al-Ezzeh and the Central Division—have received weapons including advanced antitank missiles and funding from the U.S. and its allies, according to rebel leaders.
The arc that the Russian airstrikes followed begins around the town of Jisr al-Shughour in northern Idlib province near the Turkish border and adjacent to an agricultural area known as the Ghab Plain. It cuts through the central Syrian cities of Hama and Homs and ends at the Lebanese border.
Alawites—the regime’s base of support—are concentrated west of the arc in an area that includes Latakia province.
Everything east is dominated by the country’s Sunni majority, to which most of those fighting the regime belong.
A series of tit-for-tat massacres during the more than four-year conflict have solidified this sectarian fault line.
Yes, the “sectarian fault line” has been solidified and that is a hallmark of Western intervention in the Mid-East. Syria is no different.
And BBC:
Members of the US-led coalition against Islamic State have called on Russia to cease air strikes they say are hitting the Syrian opposition and civilians.
In a joint statement on Friday, the US, UK, Turkey and other coalition members said Russian strikes would "only fuel more extremism".
And best of all there's Al-Jazeera (which is of course owned by Qatar), who takes it up another notch by suggesting that Russia is now intentionally killing civilians:
Russia accused of striking civilian targets in Syria
Activists say warplanes are targeting civilians in areas under control of Western-backed rebels, a claim Russia denies.
For their part, Bloomberg did the American public a favor by laying out the real story, albeit in an article that carries the title "US, Allies Demand Russia Stop Attacks On Syrian Opposition":
Russian forces are targeting only Islamic State, al-Qaeda affiliated Nusra Front and other terrorist groups, Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said Thursday in New York. The Free Syrian Army, a U.S-backed rebel group, was not among the targets and it should have a role in the political process in Syria, he added.
“The goal is terrorism,” he said. “And we are not supporting anyone against their own people.”
Assad’s government has been fighting alongside Iranian reinforcements to secure a corridor from the coastal province of Latakia, home to Assad’s Alawite minority, stretching to the capital Damascus, according to Reva Bhalla, vice president for analysis at Stratfor, a geopolitical intelligence and advisory firm based in Austin, Texas. The government has accused Qatar and Saudi Arabia of backing “terror groups,” and dismissed the criticism.
“They’re hopping mad in Saudi Arabia, the U.S. And Qatar because of their defeat and the victory of Russia and Syria and the unraveling of the fact that the U.S. and its allies are not serious about fighting” Islamic State, Syrian lawmaker Sharif Shehadeh said by phone from Damascus. “Those who claim to be concerned about the Syrian people are the ones slaughtering the Syrian people through the terrorists.”
There you go. That last passage pretty much says it all.
Meanwhile, the Russian propaganda machine is also in high gear as The Kremlin is jumping at the opportunity to portray Putin as the man who saved the world when no one else was willing to. Here's Bloomberg again:
Vladimir Putin may have caught the U.S. and its allies off guard by striking Syria, but his propaganda machine was ready.
“A hundred dead terrorists,” a news presenter on Russia’s No. 2 network announced early Thursday, just hours after the bombing of what Putin has called “evil-doers” began. She then cut to a correspondent in Syria who lauded the precision of the strikes as aerial footage of the attacks supplied by the Defense Ministry aired.
Over on Channel 1, the most-watched station, a parade of politicians, analysts and religious leaders -- both Christian and Muslim -- rolled by justifying the use of force on both legal and moral grounds.
“This is more than just military strikes against Islamic State,” said the editor of National Defense magazine, Igor Korotchenko, after parliament unanimously authorized the use of force. “We are protecting the values of humanity and taking a stand against the most extreme forms of obscurantism and terror.”
What's amusing there is that as overstated as it is, that narrative is actually closer to the truth than what's being fed to the public by the Western media.
In any event, the important thing here is to cut through all of this and extract the bits that help to tell the story of what's actually taking place in Syria. As we detailed on Thursday, this is effectively a Mid-East coup by Russia and Iran wherein Tehran will replace Riyadh as the regional power broker and Moscow will supplant Washington as the superpower puppet master. And on that note, we close with another excerpt from the WSJ piece cited above:
Iran’s Foreign Ministry welcomed Russia’s military intervention in Syria on Thursday, saying it was the right step to fight terrorism and a move toward bringing stability to the region.
“Fighting terrorism effectively requires a strong and serious will and has to be based on cooperation with the governments of Iraq and Syria,” Marzieh Afkham, spokeswoman for the ministry, said according to Iranian media reports.
Ibrahim al-Amin, a Lebanese commentator and newspaper editor close to Hezbollah and Iran, said Moscow essentially provided a green light for a counteroffensive against rebels across the political spectrum.
“From our side, we can no longer ignore the decision of the axis of resistance, backed by Russia, to not only prevent Assad’s fall but to also weaken all his foes. All his foes without any distinction,” wrote Mr. Amin in the Lebanese daily Al-Akhbar on Thursday.
“We must benefit from Russian support to launch tough and decisive battles in several places in Syria,” he added.
Before the latest Russian intervention, Iran played a pivotal role propping-up pro-regime militias made up largely of Alawites and Shiites. It has orchestrated thousands of Shiite fighters mainly from Lebanon and Iraq with Hezbollah being in the lead.
But thousands of rebels regrouped in several enclaves north of Homs, in towns like al-Rastan and Talbiseh. Russian jets hit both civilian and military targets in these two towns and five surrounding villages, said Rashid al-Hourani, a Syrian army officer from the area who defected to the rebels in 2012.
He said the airstrikes were followed with a barrage of artillery fire from several nearby positions where pro-regime Alawite and Shiite militias, including an Iran-backed group known as the Ridha Brigade, have been massing over the past few days.
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Closest asteroid of next five approaches is today, at 2.79 million miles. Sorry.
Ephesians 6:12
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in heavenly places.
This is becoming quite obvious.
10 females for every male.
Ya Russki!
Russia said they were taking a 2 day break while the Chinese practice their stuff on the terrorissts.
Russia just said hello to some jihadists...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y8ZdXDvPx4
a good hello indeed...
Breaking.
Fox/CNN reporting that Oregon shooter had tatooe of Putin on his cock.
More likely a tatoo of AlfredNeumann.
please do not interrupt master at work
Or Vicky Nuland.
I would be totally not surprised if all the advanced electronic weapons we pass out to "whoever" aren't all tagged with rfid tracking via cellphone with remote detonation capability, and NSA officials passed on the key data to the Russians.
They'd never do that right?
Not after the missing Stinger Talaban fiasco, track the weapons that we pass out?
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2001/sep/28/afghanistan.terrorism3
They wouldn't think ahead and nake the sane mistake twice would they?
Banking on the RFID but what you do is put it on a target as a laser finder.
They do mad in Saudi Arabia by beating up a Lamborghini with a Big Bertha driver, then raping the maid.
I saw what she was wearing and she deserved it.
C&!t
Putin: 2
0bama: 0
Score 1: Putin has created a giant footprint in the middle east and on a global scale. He's likely going to crush the nasty insects that make up the vast majority of the CIA/Israel/Saudi-backed "rebels" in eastern Syria. His political power just jumped quite a few notches.
Score 2: 0bama is exposed as a useless, corrupt, paper tiger. 0bama has been reduced to "bitch" status.
America, especially in terms of its wholly evil foreign policy, has been deeply wounded in the best way possible. Credibility is in the dumps. The propaganda is really lacking traction this time. Will American people learn from this? Certainly not. Will America's corrupt-o-crats and handlers continue their game plan. Yes. What concerns me is what insane plans are now in the works to counter Russian and/or Chinese rise in power. A hot war? Finally pulling the plug on the Global economy?
Stay vigilant. When anyone in power wants you to focus your attention in a certain direction you better know something is going on behind your back.
Notably missing from your analysis is the role Israel has played in this war crime. Why is that?
What will happen next? That's easy - Israel will shoot down one of its own fighter jets and Russia will take the rap. The whole world (i.e., the US, the UK, France, Poland, Ukraine, Latvia and of course plucky little Israel) will fly into a rage over Russia's outrageous behaviour and demand that action be taken. Already isolated as it is, Russia will go for broke and reduce both Israel and Turkey to rubble, handing what's left of Jerusalem over to Rome and what's left of Constantinople over to Greece.
NATO will will hide under a rock and hurl all kinds of nasties at the Russians, but they'll be too scared to do anything about it.
Then things will settle down and we'll have a thousand years of peace.
When the rubble happens, no more peace it is for any with guts to tear into their governments like Atilla the Hun.
Starts the 5th columns everywhere in people have had enough of this bullshit.
It is good to see that bloggers across the West, are waking up to the Anglo/US lies.
In the UK thousands of comments ridiculing the MSM narrative on Putin's move, are appearing. It seems
that the genie is out of the bottle. It cannot be put back.
This is the best news I've heard so far today. Thanks for that.
Yesterday Norwegians largest online newspaper, VG, had 3 massive news blocks on how civilians were being killed as their headline and how Putin was perpetrating murder. What they did not expect was, as you say, comments from the readers who are no longer buying into Zion crap. Today, not one single headline is about war in Syria! They kept one headline from yesterday put way down and in the right.
The Guardian in the UK appears to be downplaying it a bit as well, though I have noticed that for most of the Russian war articles comments are not allowed....bastards..
Yes, I've noticed quite a few articles in Guardian lately, where the comments have been prohibited. It makes you wonder if they don't want to give people the chance to call their bluffs.
People need to go to their fucking offices of these "news outlets" and raise hell. Start protesting these pieces of shit.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/previous-episodes-of-zealo...
3 minutes of thought say we are being played. If ISIS was a real enemy, we would be dealing with the problem effectively.
There is very little real independent information in the news.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/assume-you-are-being-played/
The West got put on the bench. You had your chance to play, and you played like shit. So quit whining.
Does the West still get a participation trophy?
Notably missing from Zero Hedge analysis is the role Israel has played in this war crime. Why is that?
Israel has the power to make ZH disappear and people also.
The US soldiers stationed at Guantanamo Bay should start realizing they are torturing innocent men. Every soldier in the US army and every mother, father, son, daughter should cry out loud and clear that they are fed up fighting wars for these psychopaths! Get this rolling and I'd like to see how much power the Pentagon and DC would hold. They'd be running like headless chickens waiting to be roasted alive.
Besides, the NSA must be going vertical in overdrive as the world now cheers Putin ahead. That is quite a few "terrorists" to keep track of.
Quite. I've long since had it with the "Support Our Vets" crowd. American soldiers stopped fighting for our freedoms when I was in high school. Since Vietnam, there has not been a single war fought for the the "U.S." that was about anything other than increasing the profits of the War Industries, usually with the Oil Industry at their head. People who volunteer -- and they are ALL volunteers now -- to serve as mercenaries for the profiteers don't need or deserve our emotional loyalty. They get paid well, and they should INSIST on being paid very well indeed, as they are being paid to murder so someone else can make money. But enough with the "grateful nation" routine. Treat them as the specialized paid killers that they are. And if your family doesn't approve of specialized paid killers, by all means toss them out of it. These are not Heroes. They are hired thugs.
simple term ... mercenaries.
Anyone with access to these propaganda machines should publicly ask them (as they dish out their nonsense):
"Why did WTC7 fall down?"
That's the contemporary equivalent of "Remember the Alamo".
Do you think this WTC7 nonsense will die in the grave with you, or will you pass it along to generation after generation of your paranoid descendants, assuming you have any?
Why DID WTC 7 fall down?
Why DID WTC 7 fall down?
If I was the detective assigned to the case I would be taking a real close look at
The landscape is very rich in unexamined targets.
Do you think this WTC7 nonsense
That can be taken several ways:
will you pass it along to generation after generation of your paranoid descendants, assuming you have any?
Interesting question. I do have descendants. I have called their attention to it. They were part of the 92% who didn't know and are now part of the 8% who do. But they aren't concerned with the collapse of WTC7. I don't know why and their lack of interest puzzles me. Then I look at their indoctrination in our schools and it becomes more understandable.
Also, of the 92% I have found who didn't know about it, not a single one has done anything to bring it to the attention of others (thereby increasing the 8%). And I have been ostracized by many of them. Cognitive dissonance is alive and well.
Almost all of the 92% would react by saying I don't believe "much" of what the government tells me. And then they go believing things like the Boston Marathon bombing, Sandy Hook, the so-called holocaust, and myriad other fictions that just gain credibility with time. Pretty soon you have full blown religion.
Just as many went to their graves knowing the JFK murder findings were pure fiction, the stall on the whole 9/11 event may work. Time is on "their" side.
Are you on "their" side?
We live in an "occupied" country!
Putin wins in Syria.
USA loses, again.
Putin wins in Syria.
USA loses, again.
I hate it when you have to get off the practice field and let the other teams practice. Oh, And rest assured, all these little pissant things since Korea have been practice. The big game is finally coming up
Let's see that old coot McCain go over and hang out with ISIS now. Haha!
McCain is running around with a load in his diaper right now
http://redefininggod.com/the-rockefeller-plan-for-the-brics-new-world-or...
It's all a planned play....PUTIN will usher in the NWO
Dont' be surprised of a serious false flag,.. to be blamed the on Russians.
Beware the of CNN-CIA propaganda and deceptions, these fuckers can't leave their greenrooms without it.
Obama's nappy(diaper) is leaking.
Ha ha , funny racist joke, ha ha
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/baghdad-says-would-welcome-russian...
Please, Mr. Putin, DROP MORE!
and if you can, shoot a few missles their way...DON'T HOLD BACK!!
In all the bollocks ...
UK - Daily Telegraph came out with a simple 2 way choice for all today - article now pulled.
ASSAD or ISIL -> take your pick and me on this one I am Assad as the lessor of 2 evils.
Now the MSM can come up with all the bullshit they want ISIL would kill me period so hey Assad is the way to go with the lack of any other form of government in Syria other than a fragmented state of infighting for the next century.
Now if my government goes the other way I hope you get blown to bits by Russia because frankly my best interest has just been stated it is Assad.
The article ‘Putin's Global Game Changer’ ...shows clearly that the US is changing its attitudes towards both Syria and Ukraine and gives very good examples how Putin is now running the show and why....all results of his meeting with Obama. CHECKMATE!
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/01/putins-global-game-changer/
They never made their case against Assad like they did with Hussein and so it makes no sense to people that the ultra secret CIA is training and supplying rebel groups openly. The average person has to ask themselves, "Why do I know about the CIA doing this?" followed by "Why is the CIA getting involved in some random country?".
Incompetant rubes are running the show in DC. It's actually quite insulting to be dominated by such fools. We expect to be lied to by the best and believe strongly in nonsense here in America.
China is sending troops to support a sovereign government fighting to put down a revolution. Given China's issues with Tibet and the Uighurs, they cannot support a revolution in Syria ... is how I see their MO. Plus, they see the BOP (balance of power) shifting way out of whck with this US/Canadian/Turkish/Saudi/Qatar invasion.
One intersting issue the media has sidestepped is how we handed Iraq over to Iran who is supposedly our enemy. A $4 Tillion war loss.
https://syrianfreepress.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/washington-to-russia/
I don't have anything to ad
Lavrov @ 1:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mluzNt9i2I
The US bombs everything but ISIS
Its about time someone stopped the U.S. virus in their tracks. Your move U.S.
I'm growing tired of keeping up with all this. Not that it isn't important, but but i'm just frazzled. I'm trying to just concentrate on the main componets, like when I wake up tomorrow and the sky isn't green with huge fireballs in the distance i've made it another day.
There will be no conventional war between the superpowers. Between their proxies, yes. But not between the powers themselves. Because that could lead to a nuclear exchange.
AND THE 1% ABSOLUTELY POSITIVELY DON'T WANT THAT.
So Negrpoleon will quit the Plains of Waterloo and won't challenge the Allied forces of Honesty, Justice, and Righteousness.
The U.S. is not the problem...The problem is the people running the U.S. which happens to be the elites and donors of both parties...
The question that I have is, why do the american politicians want to get rid of Assad? Certainly it isnt because they just dont like him.
Why did they want to get rid of Gaddafi too? What did he have that the U.S. and allies wanted? They just didn't kill him because they didnt like him, would they?
Somebody wants something thats for sure. Oil? Gas? Banking Institutions? Water? Control? Something.
To steal their gold. That's why! So simple everyone overlooks it.
Because the U.S. Government is the globalist spear. They do not represent the people's interests. Think of it as globalist against Russia, China and their few allies. Russia and China are the last nationalist hold outs. By nationalist I mean they actually have their countries best interests at heart.
Gaddafi and Saddam both had plans to trade oil for something other than the petro-dollar.
Two things:
First, some official whose only hobby is sexting photos of his underwhelming penis to some chick he met on Instagram, but who's really a guy, has the nerve to say that Putin made a dramatic chess move that was not thought through. Even though this official never played a game of chess with anyone over the age of 13 in his life, no less won a game.
Second, it is 13 years since Bush told America's deadliest lie. How can these 'so called' officials deceive themselves into thinking that anyone but the most retarded American believe anything they say?
Dear Mr. Putin,
We are sorry our American goverment has caused so much strife in the Middle East and elsewhere. We elected liberal democrats recently to try and remedy the situation but to our horror, they behaved more like the Harkonnens in the Dune trilogy than Peter, Paul and Mary as we had hoped.
We can no longer control them despite our best efforts. Good luck.......
Our best efforts? No one has done anything to rein in the govt. Both sides of the red team and the blue team were in on the destruction of Syria. Americans sit around and do nothing.
McCain and the NeoCons and LibCons were 100% behind this.
People say well we will have an election. The GOP-ee ran the board in 2014 and what did they do? Nothing.
How many innocent people have been murdered in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Ukraine, Egypt and Yemen to name a few? Same crap in the Balkans during Clinton.
Innocent men, women and children. Americans and some other people view bombing as some football game.
What if people were doing that to American women and children?
A lot of poeple are bashing the sh8t out of Samathan Power on Twitter (Cass Sunstein's wife) and the USA UN rep. The people bashing here on twitter apoear to be Americans which is a hopeful sign.
Great posts Freddie, you're one of the very best ZH has to offer, keep 'em coming!
Dear Mr. Putin,
We are sorry our American goverment has caused so much strife in the Middle East and elsewhere. We elected liberal democrats recently to try and remedy the situation but to our horror, they behaved more like the Harkonnens in the Dune trilogy than Peter, Paul and Mary as we had hoped.
We can no longer control them despite our best efforts. Good luck.......
Dear American,
Welcome to Russia....
Putin:
"You still don't get it?"
NO Qatar/Saudi gas pipeline.
nail on the head
http://www.syriahr.com/en/2015/10/fearing-of-the-russian-airstrikes-islamic-state-cancel-the-friday-prayer/
Work with a few muzzies - nice guys actually. They have to stop what they are doing and go pray at certain times. Had a consultant in for a while and he asks where do they keep going during the day. Told him they have to go off somewhere and pray.....after a few minutes he concludes "I pray a lot also, but I don't have to take time off work to do it". LOL - technically they are still on the clock, so they are just wasting the companies time.
the point is: when Reds attack IS they stop praying
As someone said in an earlier post, our Negropoleon is approaching his waterloo
Putin bombing Obama's Syrians is payback for Maidan
Wait til he starts flying sorties in Iraq
Cheer up; one muslimn killing another is a good deal; and if the rusians want to join in; why complain. The only good muslim is a dead muslim. Lest you forget, you liberal socio-commi pinko - I will use OPM- to achieve my goals no matter how much I destroy the economics of my country (20 T debt); you will reap your own rewards when the radical muslims convert your teenage daughters in sex slaves and suicide bombers-whiole you proclaim political correctness. Yeah! Great idea. Remember. Stupidity is its own reward.
Jew right?
Qatar created by the British. It's citizens number only approx. 150,000.
It is used by the US & UK to further their agenda.
Keep in mind that Russia wouldn't be doing this if they weren't damned sure they could pull it off - particularly after their Afganistan debacle.
It is impossible to see behind the scenes but i am sure this has been in the planning stages for some time. And as per Sun Tzu and "The Art of War" - "Appear weak when you are strong, and appear strong when you are weak".
The Neocons, the Washington establishment and the Globalists are, at least tactically, "Fukt". No amount of whining and propaganda in the MSM will change the facts on the ground.
For 20 + years we have given the Russians our best hit. They stood and took it and remain standing.
Now it's their turn!
Russian base in Latakia, Syria; daily life
http://www.kp.ru/daily/26440/3311460/
http://www.kp.ru/daily/26440/3311685/
I saw on one of the websites, it maybe moonof alabama
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2015/10/russias-campaign-to-snuff-off-cias-...
or another web site that Russian jets are bombing within 2 km of Turkey. I wonder if this is to stop the flow of ISIS and the rest from coming in or leaving or if they have bases near the border.
The Russian air force apparently has had missile locks on Turkish F-16's with Su-30s and also Russian missiles (maybe Pansir S-1).
The word is Erdogan is toast. Obviously Russia cannot stand him and the USA is probably done with him.
Also it looks like the USA may be folding the tent on the Ukraine:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/putins-global-game-changer/5479292
Things are changing rapidly. Russia/Putin put together a coalition, called those destroying Syria's bluff and it looks like Putin has won big.
Interesting. I wish I could read cyrillic scripts, though.
Nice weather
What?
No mention of the Eastern Ministry of Disinformation, ZH?
HA HA
Make joke
Have potato
Potato Wodka
Look at this ass-clown Sen Tom Cotton. Wants to shoot down Russian jets in Syria.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNeN2aj-2MA
Jackasses like him, Fiorina, McCain, Graham, Rubio and every other war mongering idiot hell bent on starting WW III should hop on a cargo plane and fly over some Russian AA batteries in Syria.
I don't think you listened to what he said. You probably need to go back to MSNBC.
"I don't think"
I stopped reading after that.
Fuck the US.
"In an air strike in Afghanistan is a hospital MSF hit. Three people were killed and thirty others are still missing.
It is still unclear who is responsible for the attack. In recent days, there were violent clashes between the Taliban and government forces in Kunduz.
The bombings may be "collateral damage" of a US attack, said a spokesman for the US military. The United States argued in recent days air strikes on targets of the Taliban."
Dutch MSM.
You people who are damning the US need to stop and think for a minute. How could Russian army come in and know within a few weeks where to target? There is a segment of the US military providing coordinates to Russia. US military is split into Pro Israel and Pro USA and the Pro USA soldiers are being sent to the front lines. So enough with the school playground bullshit. I live in America. Americans have good fucking intentions goddam it. This movie we are in was scripted by think tanks and the purge of all sound minded, clear thinking people is taking place in every industry. Some are being killed.
So back up and give some fucking thought to that. America had enough dead politicians to prove this country IS NOT where it wants to be. Who would bankrupt their own nation? They are being LIED to by the media, owned by 6 corporations. ALL OF THEM, and stock holders own a piece of it all.
Israel is AIPAC. Council on Foreign Affairs is "SAVE ISRAEL FIRST EVEN IF WE HAVE DESTROY THE WORLD" How do you fight that? The mother of all psyops has been underway in this country since John F. Kennedy was murdered by them, in collusion with big industry and elected politicians who swore on the Bible to uphold the Constitution of the United States, but rather, pilfered and extorted. Without a Free Press, the average American has no choice but to believe the propaganda. This professional community, however, sits on their hands. Attorneys, doctors, businssmen and owners, all silent.
Canada - decent politicians, without the flares and wads of laundered ca$h from Israeli Canadian PAC... same thing, duct tape and forgotten into irrelevance. This purge has been going on for a very long time. Good leadership has been kicked to the curb, thrown in jail, had their reputations ruined, and left in utter destitution, to die alone.
Agenda 21 is here, getting ready to cull the Americans and steal their land under the guise of Going Green. Not a word about industrial waste, a meltdown or 3 what wasn't. Every nuclear power plant, built on a crevice like a goddam time bomb. The Samson Option is real and it has been enacted. You may find them clever, but this is the low man's road to riches, stealing it. All roads end in Israel, its a bank, laundry mat, boneyard and rocket launch pad. The religion used to hide behind has been turned into an Recipe for Stealing Nations and Destroying Their People by proxy.
The power behind this scheme to steal our world are little men, with sheltered lives, and feel no joy for the happiness of others. The entertainers are their jesters, and a refusal to perform on command could end their careers. The athletes are boy toys, and in private men's clubs in every town, the liquor-softened lighting hides a dark act of desperate men who carry their desire to sexual overpower younger prey like a monkey on their back. Leave no witnesses. Keep it in the family. Stay away from public domain. Give no interviews. Their secrets are safe in this cult of vacant greedy scoundrels, the Global Mafia.
Dear President Putin: Im from Australia, its a vassaal state of the UK / USA. We cant elect anyone good. The last true leader was 'got' by the USA. Whitlam. Dont trust the USA.
You are ruskie vantik from Moscow :D and you know that
thanks to sanctions no one want to buy your potatos now? thats sad poor poor latvian
"Fuck your USA government"
As you own government loves to say....
We should hang up a Wanted sign for every governmental agent outside USA... just because they are 100% sure a criminal in some kind.
message......you cant handle the truth Im from Au.
"Remember Russia’s international neo-fascist shindig back in March? Well once again the Kremlin gathered a bunch of clueless foreigners and threw them a big party to make them feel relevant and important. This time, however, it was a conference of separatists from around the world. Strangely, no representative from Chechnya, Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, the Crimea, Buryatia, or any other Russian region or federal subject was represented at the conference.
Here are a few highlights:
Held in a government-owned luxury hotel, the conference was organized by the Russian Antiglobalist Movement, which is supported in part by the government.
“Government-owned luxury hotel” and the “Antiglobalist Movement.” Don’t see the contradiction there? How much of the luxury in that hotel is produced outside of Russia’s borders? Russia’s astroturf “antiglobalist” movements and ideologues are absolutely hilarious, because without globalization, Putin’s Russia as we know it wouldn’t exist. The power Russia had stored up in the 2000’s came largely from foreign investment, as well as high oil prices, oil which incidentally, was sold, globally. Even today, Russia’s government still seeks investment and believe it or not, they still get it, even from Western countries. None of that really reverses the staggering capital flight Russia has suffered as of late, but even the fact that this is so harmful to Russia demonstrates how Putin did not turn Russia into some kind of self-sufficient hermit kingdom. I mean they were importing as much as 40% of their food, for fuck’s sake, and that’s with all the arable land the biggest country in the whole fucking world has. Oh yeah, Putin also struck a masterful blow at “globalism” when he joined this thing called the WTO- you know, the same organization that “antiglobalists” always protest any time it has a conference?
If it sounds like I’m beating a dead horse there, realize that I’m only trying to demonstrate how ignorant these guests are. Here they’re putting all their hopes in this country they clearly know nothing about, because had they bothered to read the business section of their newspaper from time to time, they might realize that Russia is very integrated into the dreaded “global economy,” and its government has to some extent actively sought that, whether by trying to attract investment and hosting international trade summits or just stealing their people’s money so they can buy real estate in London or Italian luxury sports cars.
Next a rather hilarious point:
Omali Yeshitela, who is based in Florida and represents the pan-African Uhuru Movement, demanded that the international community recognize “the right of African people to armed self-defense against American imperialism.” The movement seeks the economic and political liberation of blacks worldwide.
Omali, my friend, if you’re black, Russia’s the last place you want to go to find friends. I’ll just say it’s a good thing this conference took place in Moscow and not St. Petersburg, which has long been thought to possess a larger skinhead population. The truth is that contrary to some sensationalist foreign media reports, Russian streets were never patrolled by neo-Nazi skinhead gangs, but there definitely is a huge supply of racism and virtually no sympathy or sensitivity to anyone who is black or African. Thank the Russian media for that, with their race-baiting stories about how Europe is being taken over by Arabs and Africans.
More fun ahead:
Sean Carlin, a former member of the Irish National Liberation Army (a post-IRA militant group), said he was glad that Russia, after a post-Cold War hiatus, was again taking the lead in countering the U.S. “Russia is trying to reestablish links with left-wing and separatist movements it used to maintain in the past, because you can see what the West is doing in the Middle East and southeast Europe” (he means Ukraine).
Sad to see someone with that lineage fall for Kremlin bullshit. Russia isn’t really courting left-wing movements for anything beyond propaganda value. While I’m sure anyone who went to this conference got some free swag courtesy of the Russian taxpayer, the real concrete support from Russia goes to far right groups, as the Kremlin’s own ideology, insofar as it has something resembling an ideology, is far-right authoritarian, in fact, fascist by definition.
So Mr. Carlin thinks that Ireland has a right to self-determination but Ukraine (and people in Russian federal subjects) don’t? I never was good at Gaelic, but let me just say Ghough Fiocbh hYourselfhbhgh.*
Next we have a clear case of projection:
Fyodor Biryukov, a top official in Rodina (Motherland), a far-right Russian party, spoke at the conference. He compared the U.S. government to a “gang of vampires sucking blood from its own people and the rest of the world.” The audience burst into applause when he said, “We need to pierce American vampires with an aspen stake.”
If you’re looking for that gang of vampires sucking blood from their own people, head out to Rublevka. Oh no wait, you won’t, because those vampires pay your meal ticket.
Biryukov says he sees no contradiction in reaching out to the extreme opposites of the political spectrum: “We should welcome everyone who opposes Washington. The division into right and left is obsolete.”
Not a particularly good strategy there, Fyodor. But I quote this because I want leftist activists to read it and ask themselves if they are prepared to become friends with fascists like those of Golden Dawn or Jobbik, all to help out the Kremlin, which values self-preservation above all things.
He also says he doesn’t mind inviting separatists, despite Russia’s own problems in Chechnya, where militants fought two bloody wars with the Russians in an effort to win independence. “Separatism is just a tool, like a handgun. It’s only important who holds it,” says Biryukov.
Translation- It’s okay when we do it.
Tell me, leftist, how is this any different from the US government? At least that government lets you protest pretty much whenever you want. What is more, in Russia this entire conference, were it to feature people calling for independence for Tatarstan, Bashkortostan, etc., a return of the Crimea to Ukraine, or even just greater federal autonomy in the Russian Federation, would be entirely illegal. That’s right, these Hawaiian and Puerto Rican separatists have full rights to hold conferences in their home country and they’re allowed to publish as much material as they want. In Russia, all of this is illegal as per a law passed, interestingly enough, after they sponsored the separatist movement in Ukraine.
If you’re a separatist and a die-hard supporter of self-determination, how do you justify that? Your people deserve self-determination but it’s wrong for some other people to do the same, because a government gave you a free press junket? There’s the H-word again.
What I find to be the funniest thing about this and other conferences is how utterly clueless many of these people are. They don’t seem to perceive how they’re being played by a government that is happy to jail people for expressing the kind of opinions they have. Sure, while most of these people come from obscure, laughably unpopular movements, others represent more influential parties. Still, if their lack of critical thinking is this glaring, then the size of their parties or organizations may not matter.
The other laughable aspect is Russian ideologues and government officials holding these conferences and seriously believing that they’re performing some kind of brilliant gambit against the West. While they hand out free shit to cranks and losers, the government is still pissing away more and more money, now in Syria, while of course everyone down the line siphons off his cut of the revenue. When the unstable structure does inevitably implode, these conference attendees won’t be there to save them.
*Yes, I could have gone with “póg mo thóin,” but for some reason that has a plastic paddy connotation for me, largely because in America it is constantly used by plastic paddies."
No, it doesn't.
It doesn't sound like your beating a dead horse, IT SMELLS LIKE YOU ARE A DEAD HORSE, IN FULL ROT AND ODIFEROUS PUTREFACTION.
if Pavlov's dogs drooled at the sound of a bell, I vomit when I see your ugly green icon.
in other words, you stink as 'message' as you stunk as 'newsoutlet' etc. etc.
Just read that Putin bombed the crap out of Lativa. Only one casualty. Anyone for mashed potatoes?
Bullshit.
~ DC
I don't go to huff post, I found this on google.
Gee now that Pentacon Kill Industries has shown that it is a dead loss how long before USSA implodes into bite-size bits like the USSR before it?
Onward to the tsunami of Saudi Mercan toilet paper petroscrip dollahs coming home to drown US!
ANYTHING the USA and UK governments tell us is a spin, a lie and has no value. Just turn their "facts" around and you have more truth.
That people still think and believe that these governments are worth - anything - just shows how degerate humans have become.
The Russian people want another decade of Putin. Putin talks perfect sense - calm, intelligent, dignified - and with consideration for other nations. Putin, not president Obama, has emerged as the moral force. Putin is a refreshing contrast to the hubris and arrogance of our current American leaders.
putin = czar
No putin = no Russia.
life under criminal putin regime can get absurd. But in same time it’s an example how North Korea get to it’s absurd regime. Where everything is upside down and hate propaganda rules the day. I guess Russians are going that direction.
Look, putin regime with it’s propaganda announcing that Western products are banned and should be replaced with local products or imported from other countries. Those Western products that are found in shops are destroyed on site in most bizarre situation – like running over 3 packages of ducks meat and burning 50 ducklings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4uVcptN1Lo
Russian officials 'burn 50 ducklings smuggled across Ukraine border'
And that Russia will survive all sanction even if that means to live without food.
Kremlin hard-liner: Russians would 'rather starve' than surrender Putin to Western aggressors
That is what putin regime elite & it’s controlled propaganda telling to Russians.
Now, in same time putin regime elite is buying Western Luxus products
Vladimir Putin's spokesman in luxury watch scandal; Russian bloggers cry corruption after Kremlin press secretary flashes £400,000 timepiece at his wedding
Travels to Western countries with Western Luxury yachts:
After Wristwatch Scandal, Putin’s Spokesman Grilled Over Luxury Yacht
Sends their children to study in Western schools and lives in Western countries:
Educating Their Children Abroad Is the Russian Elite's Guilty Secret
They don’t use Russian medical services but instead for some reason they choose Western medical treatment.
Russians Should Show Mercy to Kobzon
Of course they can offered it because they steal money from Russians 24/7
16 Eye-Popping Examples Of Alleged Corruption At The Sochi Olympics
Russia Awards Lucrative Crimea Bridge Contract to Putin's Crony
In normal country this would not be possible as people would protest against stealing their money and for these double standards putin regime lives in. But under putin regime rule – there isn’t such problem for elite because criminal putin regime just like hitler is in control over mass media in Russia:
How the Media Became One of Putin’s Most Powerful Weapons
And putin regime propaganda even attacks Western world:
Bad news for Putin as support for war flags beyond Russia’s ‘troll farms’
Woman who sued pro-Putin Russian 'troll factory' gets one rouble in damages
So here you go – people in Russia is living in crazy world under putin regime hate and lies propaganda. I just hope they will wake up before they are not led to North Korea style regime. But for one thing I am sure – there will be revolution in Russia. I just hope people of Russia will win it – not the corrupt elite.
putin regime in eyes of ordinary russian seems to be doing right job by standing against everyone and everywhere. Seems is correct word, because he is not putting Russians and Russia in first place, because he:
Is that in interest of russians? I don't think so.
What happened to you? Your life is fucked? And Putin is to blame? Get some help while subsidy eligible.
Common corruption and common criminality is no big deal.
On the other hand, Obama is an ideologue and you cannot reason with an ideologue.
So basically, you are getting desperate which explains your endless posting of copy/paste anti-Putin propaganda.
You deny the Russian people their right to self-determination, their rejection of the criminal Western banking model and their independent foreign polcy. According to you, they must comply with dictats from Washington/Westminster and their assorted sycophants.
And for their non-compliance, they have to suffer sanctions which you now take great delight in posting about the hardships it causes.
Does it surprise you that your propaganda attracts so many red-downticks?
"You deny the Russian people their right to self-determination"
They has as much "self-determination" as people in North Korea - none!
Russia’s elections show Putin-style democracy in actionI stand for people of Russia who wants to get free from criminal oligarchy regime ruled by ex-KBG agent putin.
Is it normal if people can’t imagine their country without current president? I think not. President should not become czar / emperor / dictator. But this is what has happened in Russia Federation. Putin has became a czar and people has been brainwashed by putin regime propaganda so far – that they can’t imagine world without putin. Putin from KGB to president of Russia Federation has been for 15 years. Whole generation has been raised by knowing only putin.
hitler rising in Russia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY3s4CpAtkg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5E_qMHTO0U
There are no real opposition for putin regime. If some political opposition appears than he get's arrested and jailed:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/24/russian-opposition-leader-j...
Or killed:
https://youtu.be/SgBNmFarW1w
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Nemtsov
Anyone who speaks against putin regime get’s killed:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Politkovskaya
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Litvinenko
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalya_Estemirova
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Magnitsky
There is no freedom of speech under putin regime – because it’s one of most dangerous country in the world for journalists. You get killed if you speak against putin regime. All main stream media brainwashes people minds 24/7 just like Hitler did:
All three TV channels are controlled by the state: the majority share of Channel One belongs to Rosimuschestvo (the Federal Agency for State Property Management). Other shareholders include National Media Group (controlled by the structures of Yuri Kovalchuk, Chairman of the Board of Rossiya Bank, one of the largest banks in Russia, and Vladimir Putin’s personal friend; and Roman Abramovich, owner of Chelsea football club and Putin’s ally). Rossiya 2 is a part of VGTRK (All-Russia State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company) which is owned by Rosimushchestvo. NTV is also controlled by the state through Gazprom Media. TNT and Pyatiy Kanal that come respectively fourth and fifth in the top TV channels by audience reach, are also controlled by the state. TNT belongs to Gazprom Media, while Channel 5 is controlled by National Media Group.
http://www.indexoncensorship.org/2013/12/brief-history-russian-media/
And if anyone tries to sneak in with truth using internet .. well than Putin regime iron fist is also there:
Everything You Need to Know About Russia's Internet Crackdown
That is why in Russia there is allays at power "dear leader" Putin.
16 Years KGB agent
1999 to 2000 - PM
2000 to 2008 - President
2008 to 2012 - PM
2012 to 2018 (2024) - president / czar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
"They has [sic] as much "self-determination" as people in North Korea - none!"
That must be why he enjoys a level of popular support that Western "leaders" (a serious misnomer) can only dream of.
And why he has earned a certain trust and respect around the world for his careful and measured response to the endless barrage of insults, lies and propaganda about him from Western politicals and its bought-and-paid-for MSM.
Whatever you may dig up to criticise about Putin and the way he runs Russia, it has become far worse in the US/UK/EU/Aus. We have no democracy worthy of the name, the American constitution has/is being trashed (despite it being the best ever written), the EU is out of control and NATO is doing its best to start WWIII. Our financial system is run by criminal banksters. Judicial systems have become tools of the elites.
Western countries have become progressive corporatist/fascist police states.
How bad does it have to get before you wake up and stop taking the kool-aid?
"That must be why he enjoys a level of popular support that Western "leaders" (a serious misnomer) can only dream of."
Just like in North Korea for Kim Jong Um
https://youtu.be/HUOROLyD1d8
and like for Hiter:
https://youtu.be/U0maPor4Jl0?t=1m50s
"We have no democracy" - of course you don't have democracy - because you are ruskie vantik pretending badly to be someone else - that is what you putin regime troll do.
You are here noted. You for every comment one pay, or the sum of the together?
You are sooooo wrong my friend.
Keep trolling, I like to see the red counters going up for you :-)
You won!
As the ZH hasbara troll poster with the largest word count dissemination of our hasbara talking points, you have WON!
You've won a no-expenses paid trip to Tel Aviv where you'll get to wine and dine, at your own expense of course as we still are jews, with your israel based handlers and get the latest tools and techniques on spreading our talmud-based propaganda.
Your trip will include:
- R/T coach travel from NYC to Tel Aviv. At your expense of course.
- 7 nights accomodation in a recently seized Palestinian home.
- A stolen Palestinian bicycle for use in getting to and from your meetings.
Again, congratulations on reaching the next level in our global hasbara network and we welcome you home to our bloodsoaked stolen homeland. (Of course, none of us are really from here. LOL. That's all part of the joke of this)
Sounds like stories of the magic mulatto
Putin explains who supports ISIS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykb5sxTl1Rw
You didn't bomb that! Someone else bombed that!
Russian aircraft have attacked and destroyed an ISIS convoy on the highway linking Al Shaddadi and Al Hasakah on the major road route southwards from the Turkish border. The supply routes are now under threat.
To me, a non-military person, supply routes are abviously crucial to the workings of a military force.
So a specific question to the leaders of the US military: If you intended to defeat ISIS, why have you not attacked and cut their supply routes in the however many years you have been attacking ISIS? We can only conclude that either the US military leadership is totally incompetent or there was no desire to destroy ISIS.
[NB the question is rhetorical but it should be asked in public by someone able to do so. Matt Lee for example].
Russia accused of striking civilian targets in Syriaputin regime airstrikes kills civilians including children using dumb bombs, criminal putin regime continues to lie and denies killing civilians
I don't believe that plane was shot down. Those were defensive measures, chaff, decoys, etc.
Said it a lot and all lies, so wading pool remained croaking.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/03/us-afghanistan-attack-idUSKCN0...
The U.S. military on Saturday acknowledged it may have bombed a hospital run by medical aid group Medecins Sans Frontieres in the Afghan city of Kunduz in an air strike that killed at least nine people and wounded 37.
The incident could renew concerns about the use of U.S. air power in Afghanistan, a controversial issue in America’s longest war. Former President Hamid Karzai fell out with his backers in Washington over the number of civilians killed by bombs.
Obamacare...
‘Collateral damage’: At least 9 MSF staff killed in suspected US airstrike in Kunduz, Afghanistanhttps://www.rt.com/news/317482-afghanistan-kunduz-msf-hospital/
A hospital in the Afghan city of Kunduz has been hit and partially destroyed in an overnight “aerial attack” that killed at least nine Medecins Sans Frontieres staff. NATO has admitted a US airstrike may have caused accidental “collateral damage.”“We are deeply shocked by the attack, the killing of our staff and patients and the heavy toll it has inflicted on healthcare in Kunduz,” Medecins Sans Frontieres (Doctors Without Borders) said in a statement.
Three MSF staff have been confirmed dead, while more than 30 are unaccounted for, according to the organization’s official statement.
At the time that the“aerial attack”occurred there were over 80 personnel, both local and international, inside the building, treating over 105 patients.
“We do not yet have the final casualty figures, but our medical team are providing first aid and treating the injured patients and MSF personnel and accounting for the deceased,” MSF said.
http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151003/1027959572/russia-strike-isil...
Fuck tart and troll "message" is at it again accumulating down votes.
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/another-excellent-russian-tv-report-syrian-front-lines-video/ri10152# (english subtitle)
Funny as hell watching the house of Saud shit it's robes figuring out how it's going to defend it's oil patch without US muscle and bone. All those muslim males need to have their ass over there fighting, not on some free shit army into Europe or the US. Fight your own wars.
Russian general reveals truth about 9 11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OncBdtnPMU
Amazing footage.
The bottom line here is that US involvement in and policy toward Syria has always been about what was best for Israel, not what was best for the US or its people. US policy has been beholden to the cabal throughout most of modern history (with greatest influence being evident since about 1913).
Assad has been declared by Israel to be a threat to its power in the region, so naturally the cabal's political and media influence in the US was brought to bear to characterize Syria as a candidate for "regime change".
Putin knows this and acted as any concerned leader would do in response to a regime (ISIS), that is substantially of Israeli and cabalist creation, that threatens the stability of a neighbor.
It is what true leaders do.
Hey Porosenko you doofy looking fool, you watching all this?
Alas, pour Urine, would that Goat fucker, CNN homo and boygirl not have a stage. Would our audience revolt?
Burn it. Down.
OMFG they invaded Tijuana! Do something! Other than farting, Barny! Other than counting, Buffet pols, mic and jic rats! BHHS Down!