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Inside A Mid-East Coup: A Closer Look At The Russia-Iran Power Play
Earlier today, we ventured to characterize the breakdown of Washington’s strategy in Syria as the worst US foreign policy blunder since Vietnam.
To be sure, that’s a bold claim, but it’s supported by the sheer number of missteps, bad outcomes, and outright absurdities that have developed in the Mid-East as a result of the effort to oust Bashar al-Assad.
At the most basic level, the support provided by Washington, Riyadh, and Doha for the various Sunni extremist groups battling for control of Syria has created a humanitarian crisis of epic proportions. Hundreds of thousands of people are dead and millions are displaced. As tragic as the situation already is, the conditions are ripe for it to get even worse if the move by Brussels to force recalcitrant EU countries into accepting a migrant quota system they are opposed to ends up triggering a dangerous bout of xenophobia in the Balkans.
Washington’s move to train and arm the Syrian opposition has of course also led directly to the creation of a group of black flag-waving jihadists that have taken the term “extremists” to a whole new level on the way to producing a series of slickly-produced videos depicting the murder of Westerners. This same group is now stomping around between Syria and Iraq wreaking havoc on civilians and committing acts so heinous that even al-Qaeda has condemned them.
Of course the outright chaos the West has managed to create in Syria has now come full circle, providing Iran and Russia with a unique opportunity to tip the scales and seize power in the Mid-East.
What's important to understand here, is that this isn’t confined to Syria.
That is, Iran isn't content to preserve its supply line with Hezbollah and Russia isn't content to play spoiler to the US by propping up Assad. There's something far more meaningful going on here and it can be readily observed in Iraq.
For years, Iran exercised its influence in Iraq via various Shiite militias controlled by Quds commander Qasem Soleimani. Now, it looks as though the deal struck between Tehran and Moscow in July included a power play designed to gradually muscle the US out of the way in Baghdad. The first concrete evidence of this came late last month when Iraq announced an intelligence sharing agreement with Russia and Syria but the story goes far deeper than that. Consider the following from The Washington Institute:
On September 21, the Wall Street Journal reported that forces under the command of Iran, Russia, and Bashar al-Assad were coordinating efforts to secure the Syrian regime. As Moscow sends advanced aircraft, armored vehicles, and more, Iran's Iraqi Shiite proxies have simultaneously stepped up their recruitment and deployment for the Syria war. Since July, their Syria-focused online campaigns have jumped significantly (see chart), morphing from infrequent mentions in late 2014/early 2015 to a full-fledged recruitment program involving a number of newer Iranian-backed groups. These Shiite fighters are now spread across Syria, primarily in the western part of the country, launching operations from the suburbs of Damascus to Idlib.
Following the June 2014 seizure of Mosul and much of northern Iraq by the so-called Islamic State/ISIS, a group called Kataib al-Imam Ali (KIA) announced its creation. Formed by Iranian-controlled splinter elements from Muqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army, KIA is probably best known for its fierce battlefield reputation and particularly gory videos featuring severed heads and men being cooked above open flames.
When compared to other organizations, KIA's Syria-focused recruitment and propaganda campaign has been the largest. Using messages issued via its offices, billboards, and social media, the group has actively recruited new members, especially around Najaf, Iraq. These efforts began with online imagery connecting its fighters with Sayyeda Zainab, an important Shiite shrine near Damascus. Other posts have announced that Jaafar al-Bindawi, the militia's former head of training and logistics, would be leading the deployment in Syria, while Ali Nizam would serve as the new logistical director for Syrian affairs.
While this effort marks the group's first publicized deployments to Syria, KIA is no newcomer to the war. Prior to its formal creation, and with Iranian assistance, elements of the militia were very active in Syria beginning in 2013. Alaa Hilayl, one of the group's heavily glorified "martyrs" and leader of its submilitia Kataib Malik al-Ashtar, was one of the first Shiite commanders to publicly announce combat operations in the Aleppo area in spring 2013.
Meanwhile, Harakat Hezbollah al-Nujaba (HHN, a.k.a. "The Hezbollah Movement of the Outstanding," or simply Harakat al-Nujaba) has been the other main Iraqi Shiite player in Syria recruitment, and its background is similar to KIA's. HHN emerged from Iranian-controlled Sadrist splinter group Asaib Ahl al-Haq (AAH) in 2013 and is led by that group's cofounder, Sheikh Akram Kaabi.
Internet-based propaganda and recruitment materials (mainly through social media) often serve as harbingers of larger moves by Iran's Iraqi Shiite proxies. This summer, these groups began to disseminate a collection of professionally produced imagery in a highly organized manner, all aimed at raising awareness of the Syria fight and calling for new recruits.
Previously, in fall 2014, the Iranian-backed Iraqi Shiite group Kataib Sayyid al-Shuhada (KSS) instituted a sporadic Internet recruitment program. The group's fighters were primarily deployed for a failed campaign on Syria's southern front that lasted into early 2015. Meanwhile, HHN initiated its own limited recruitment program from December to April. Both programs demonstrated that Iraqi Shiites would once again play a major role in Syria (see PolicyWatch 2430, "Iraqi Shiite Foreign Fighters on the Rise Again in Syria"). Yet these moves were only the tip of the iceberg.
While May and June were relatively quiet on this front, Iraqi Shiite recruitment for Syria quickly began to rise in July and spiked in August. September saw slightly decreased recruitment and propaganda posts online, but the traffic was still sizable enough to be regarded as a continuation of the Syria program.
According to fighters who promoted recruitment material or were sent to Syria in late July, training for the deployment often lasted around thirty days and took place in Lebanon or Iran. Considering that most training regimens for Shiite fighters heading to Syria have lasted between two and six weeks (depending on specialization), Iran likely timed the uptick in deployments to best demonstrate unity of arms with Russia and Assad. Specifically, the main spike in recruitment activity began in earnest on July 3, the first reports of experienced KIA fighters deploying to Syria emerged on July 20, and Qasem Soleimani -- commander of Iran's elite Qods Force -- met with Russian officials on July 24.
And here's a map from ISW which "depicts confirmed locations of Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) commanders in Iraq between October 2014 and October 2015." ISW continues: "orange markers indicate where IRGC personnel were spotted in an area witnessing active military operations [and] asterisks indicate a Soleimani sighting":
In short, what's happened here is that once Tehran secured the support of the Russian air force juggernaut, the IRGC diverted its Iraqi militias to Syria, where they will now join Hezbollah and ensure that Putin's airstrikes are bolstered when needed by effective ground support.
The announcement this week by Baghdad that Iraq would welcome Russian airstrikes against ISIS indicates that once Moscow and Tehran have restored Assad and stabilized Syria, the joint air and ground campaign will move to Iraq, a strategic shift that will complete what we have characterized as an outright Mid-East coup.
If this thesis materializes, it will mean that the West's attempt to destabilize the Assad regime has not only failed, but has in fact opened the door for Iran to seize control of the Mid-East and for Russia to reestablish itself as a global superpower capable of bringing its influence to bear on any nation at any time.
It's your move Washington, and the stakes couldn't possibly be higher...
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and for Russia to reestablish itself as a global superpower capable of bringing its influence to bear on any nation at any time.
This particular Tyler seems to have a penchant for hyperbole.
And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts, And I looked and behold: a pale horse. And his name, that sat on him, was DEBT. And Hell followed with him.
~ Book of Revaluations
Yep, I've been wondering just how Putin would finally leverage his superior strategy against the pitiful Obozo-Kerry foreign policy "Chinese-fire-drill."
A Middle East alliance with the Iranian mullahs makes a lot of sense for him.
Putin KNOWS he's dealing with US amateurs here and he will win.
Elites don't want Mary loving Assads people under Sunni cruel control. It's the Muslims that are doomed. Keep that foremost in your figurin
The Russia/Iran/Syria allies will push ISIS and other terrorists out... the problem is keeing the borders secure. If Iraq can be brought into the fold, which is likely, then that would be a big help. I think the key piece is the Kurds. Putin referenced them as the only other people (other than the Syrian gov't) fighting ISIS. Look for the Kurds to be given a piece of Syria as their own land, on the Syria-Turkish border... to buffer Syria from the Turks who are letting any and all extremist Muslims into Syria to destabilize Assad. I think it's likely that ISIS gets routed right now with Russian air power/logistics, in concert with Syrian/Iranian ground offensive.
If they can secure Syrian's border on the northern flank with Turkey, and get Iraq into the fold... it's checkmate.
Well, the good news is that General Austin’s '4 or 5' anti-ISIS fighters are getting a lot of help now.
Maybe Russia or Iran will get better results from a half billion dollar expenditure than we did.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/general-austin-us-trained-syrian-rebels-fighting-isis/story?id=33802596
America will come out on top. We always do. We are God's children.
Zionist stealing and fucking up another empire. Where will the go to next?
If only that money had been spent for 4 or 5 Chuck Norris clones...
Kurds deserves their own homeland even if Turkey is upset.
What about the Saudis ? Shouldnt they loop a few bombs over there too ?
If Iraq gets involved in Syria, it will mean a defacto Iranian annexation of Iraq...and if they can defeat ISIS, it´s the beginning of a new Shiite caliphate. Then watch the shit really fly off the handle in the ME.
I know Putin has a lot of fans on this site, but lets face it: the real reason he´s doing what he´s doing is because Assad was getting his ass kicked badly and he was in danger of losing his quasi-monopoly of the natural gas market to Europe. He has chumped Obama, but he has gone all in, and his stack is limited.
With the Ukraine crisis continuing, the ongoing massive costs of taking over the Crimea, low oil prices, a world economic system one step from collapse and trade sanctions already draining Russia´s treasury, the biggest danger for Putin is economic. Syria can be won, but it must be done very quickly, because the longer it takes, the higher the costs....in blood and treasure. He must avoid a second Soviet Afghanistan.
This is not a riskless operation by far. The conflict could easy escalate into other countries (Jordan especially) and there will be another massive wave of refugees when urban combat destroyes one Syrian town and city after the next. Nothing but a permanent Iranian occupation force lasting for years will be able to keep Assad alive, and him being an infidel, who knows how long that lasts.
The risks of terror attacks within Russia (and elsewhere) should also not be discounted as trivial. There are way too many ISIS nutjobs with Russian passports.
Be that as it may
More than that,
"Formed by Iranian-controlled splinter elements from Muqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army, KIA is probably best known for its fierce battlefield reputation and particularly gory videos featuring severed heads and men being cooked above open flames."
But those where ISIS killings, no?
And
ISIS is a Salafi jihadist extremist militant group and self-proclaimed Islamic state and caliphate, which is led by and mainly composed of Sunni Arabs from Iraq and Syria.
While Iran is Shia.
Ah, from The Washington Institute.......
Your point is exactly why I rated this story as poor (one). Too much bullshit causes it to lose credibility.
the gathering of lost souls Joel 3:2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BDBzgHXf64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcnIBBFPSUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hI5_pMvLZd8
idiot.
I don't think revelations is any worse than any of the erudite, brilliant, insightful analyses of every cultural and political and military and intelligence and ethnic and economic and ... nuance of every single situation done by all sides, routinely and in very disciplined work at all times. It is normal government workings, standardized everywhere, with layers of experts attending to the various elements of the process.
The fact that everyone does this is the exact reason the error rate in multi-laterl international relations with war is so very low, hardly ever a surprize for any player.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/warning-ideas-are-dangerous/
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/02/06/high-dimensioned-games/
When people begin evaluting everything from their own personal and family and local points of view, what things mean to them and how they would feel if they were in other's shoes, we can overcome the propaganda, and end the experts who are so bad at telling us what to do, and never get around to evaluating their own performance.
Agencies filled with experts are not helpful, they are just as dangerous as professional armies.
And simplistic 'won vs lost' calcuations in games of such complexity are beyond stupid, no one can see the future. Judging from the past, everyone always loses.
This is all about toppling KSA, and ending the US Petrodollar (recycling) supremacy. ButtFuck in the WH, surrounded by manginas, feminazis, & sycophants, can't see the chessgame being played out before his lying eyes.
You mean his ethno-oligarch controllers can't see the chessgame being played out before their eyes, though they claim to have achieved greatness at chess, ironic. Obongo is just another manufactured political tool.
So you think Putin and Iran r any match for our dear leader, horse face, and uncle joe? If pantsuit cankles gets in ( because it would be so cooool to have a woman Prez) she will straighten it all out based on her history in Syria. God save The Queen
"At this point, what difference does it make?!"
Please leave that fat cankled cackling bitch out of this...
She's toast!
Yea, history is great. After you are done looking at the past, look at the now.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-02/theyre-hopping-mad-us-and-saudi-arabia-russian-strikes-syria-spark-epic-western-medi
Review that map real quick to get a general idea of who controls where.
Then prepare to spend 3 hours here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_armed_groups_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War
This looks to be seriously, seriously complicated.
Nah Lavrov cut it down to real simple the other day when some stupid reporter asked how Russia was identifiing terrorists for airstrikes and sure they were targeting the right groups. He, in the most diplomatic terms basically said
if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, flies black flags, chops heads off, eats liver or rides around in toyota trucks with guns --its a terrorist
I like this guy-class act.
Even better, quote, "Washington has notified the Russian Defense Ministry that there were only militants in the areas of Russia’s military operation against IS in Syria", Lieutenant General Andrey Kartapolov, head of the Main Operation Directorate of the General Staff of Russia’s armed forces, told reporters on Saturday. "The Americans informed us during contacts that there was no one except terrorists in this region", he said."
this person is spot on lavrov is epic so is putin
what did Pope Francis have to say to Obama in private?
It would be refreshing to see Turkey lose its cover story for bombing the Kurds.....
I'm totally mystified why we have never officially embraced the Kurds; gotta be those Turkish blow-jobs.
A COUP... They are going against mommy jeans..
Ha. Didn't see that one coming, eh Hoebama?
ill betcha the jews geta second homeland out this..........schemers and parasites that they are.....
There is nowhere left for them to run. The future belongs to Russia, Iran, and China, where their true nature is well known. When the American economy finally keels over, even the most brainwashed Christian Zionist will start blaming the self-Chosen. It will start with reprisals toward the bankers and then spread from there. After 2,000 years, their power is finally coming to an end, without an escape route in sight.
the jews will run to china......hence the ghost cities...
''RUSSIA AND CHINA ARE THE NEXT POWER BASES OF THE JEWS WHEN THEY HAVE FINALLY CONSUMED THE WEST. A WAR, EVEN A COLD WAR, WITH RUSSIA TO DEFEAT THE WEST WILL PROVIDE A HAVEN FOR JEWISH POLITICAL POWER IN MOSCOW AS IT COMES UNDER PRESSURE IN LONDON AND WASHINGTON. CHINA IS THE NEXT FINANCIAL CENTER OF WORLD JEWRY.''
https://endzog.wordpress.com/2013/08/07/financial-collapse-post-western-...
Not a fucking chance in hell.
The Chinese like their country without diversity and have been around for a very long time.
Um ..... Take a look around China. Do you see a lot of diversity?
The Tribe plays a long game admittedly but the Chinese play a longer one and I don't see a place for them in China.
Cristian Zionists should read the letters and Epistles of Paul on Judaism, or talk to Christian Palestinians.
As long as they give us oil on credit we'll be fine.
'honey...did you pay the Visa bill?..I got rejected at the pump...
dup
freekin Safari
more dup
The chess metaphor is overused, but very apt, and in the Middle East the US has never been able to see more than one move ahead, while the Russians see pathways stretching years into the future. We have been outstrategized, outsmarted and outhustled from the very first move.
Caution: We are nearing the point where the loser tips over the chessboard.
maybe because US is being dragged aroung by the nose by Zionist cunts and their apologists in US Congress and media - right into a dead end street
The US is the activist foreign policy, trying to make things happen. Ditto ISIS, the Saudis and now the Turks.
Russia, Assad, the Kurds, Iraq, Iran are in more-defensive positions, mostly taking back what was once theirs against clearly identified opponents.
Did we learn nothing from the Russian's experience in Afghanistan, our experience in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Sudan, ...?
Invaders do not do well in a world of IEDs, 14 years we have not learned how to do well in a world of IEDs and are going broke trying.
Don't tell me anyone can win at games of this complexity, there is very clear mathematics showing this.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/02/06/high-dimensioned-games/
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/07/01/memo-aga-cio-to-chief/
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/03/modern-demosthenes/
I think your view of the world is too static, it ain't that kind of place.
Not outsmarted from the first but if you leave an opening your opponent can convert it into a defeat. More like that. Stumbling along with absurd goals and overly complicated "strategies." That's the U.S. In the ME.
Oy vey filthy Goyim. Dont you know that bombing the Chosenite proxy army is an act of antisemitism? Dont you filthy Goy watch my fine media outlets anymore? Oy vey its like anudda shoah!
Hi /pol/!
shhhh
is it finally happenins???? been waiting years!
As bad as Vietnam "being a bold claim"???...
Destroying one Country for a decade with 3 times the ordnance we used in World War II is an understatement.
But we went far fucking beyond that realm with the decapitation of the entire Middle East and leaving one secular player left standing based on the lie of all lies of sacrificing our own in order to sell it!
Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE are Israel's and our "bitches" so they don't count!
They should all be in the crosshair of destruction before this World starts over again!
The US is now seen as closest to Saudi Arabia and to Israel. These two countries have reputations that are not remotely related to the ideals which the media has tried to convince the world represent the US: open society, diversity, etc. This single cognitive dissonance may finally be enough to tip the "hearts and minds" battle away from the psychos in charge of the west. But boy with the wealth they amassed over the past 150 years, they are going to scream their loudest as they get pushed further and further against the wall. There are a lot of lies coming to light in a very short time. When the 9-11 story finally falls completely, things will get messy. Interesting times, indeed...
If the rumors about the Saudis accepting yuan for oil are true, the US won't have them as allies anymore either. It's starting to look like US and it's jewish puppeteers are isolated.
If the rumors about the Saudis accepting yuan for oil are true, the US won't have them as allies anymore either. It's starting to look like US and it's jewish puppeteers are isolated.
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A very good prediction is that Israel will join that "other partner" that you just mentioned... Just notice how quiet Bi Bi has been since his visit to Moscow more than a week ago before all of this got underway! Trust me. Israel is a survivor and as much as they love to talk "Samson" they are fucking pussies just like the American twat they own!
If that prediction for both those parties "trading horses" come true I wouldn't want to be Porkoshenko, Ihor Kolomoisky or "Obunghole" when this party gets assistance from the Russian and Chinese financial markets use the nuclear option to sell what remaining USTs they have left!
> Destroying one Country for a decade with 3 times the ordnance we used in World War II is an understatement.
The U.S did really really fuck Cambodia up during the war.
Pay attention to new infrastructure between Baghdad and Damascus.
That's currently a hard 24 hour drive.
Add a few hundred miles of bridges and normal improvements (security) and that trip becomes less than 9 hours.
If that overland corridor can be shored up (never mind the bombings) you have a continuous supply chain from Tehran to Lebanon.
So much for that South Lebanon Security Belt.
The scary part is the debacle will bring millions of Muslim refuges to America thanks to Obama and the Democrats.
"The scary part is the debacle will bring millions of Muslim refuges to America thanks to Obama and the Democrats."
Seems like that's been Obama's plan all along. This spectacular string of "fuckups" seems more like a coherent strategy every day.
The Dronemaster is not content with destroying only the middle class; he has to destroy the entire nation by importing thousands of angry young middle eastern and north african men.
Bit of an obstacle in their way, the Atlantic.
What is our stake n the mideast? They'll sell us their oil no matter what. Why put military there?
But it requires force to keep them selling for dollars
Expanding on Itchy's comment, in the 70s, the US went off the gold standard and moved onto the petrodollar standard, which meant that they provided Saudi Arabia with military support and the Saudis made sure that oil was priced in USD. Because oil was (and probably still is) the most important commodity in the world, it ensured that the dollar remained the reserve currency of the world. But when certain oil producing nations, eg Iraq and Libya started threatenng to sell oil in other currencies, the MIC decided it was time to make a more permanent military presence in the ME. There are a bunch of other significant reasons but a lot of them also center around oil. if there wasn't so much black gold in the area, the middle east would be as abandoned as Africa. No one would give a rat's ass about it.
Dude, this started long before Nixon. Try the battleship USS Quincy, parked @Suez, Egypt in the Red Sea on Valentine's Day 1945.
Sadly, not a lot of people are aware of the significance of that event. Basically laying the groundworks for a disaster for millions of people over the following decades.
http://susris.com/2011/02/14/today-in-history-king-abdulaziz-and-preside...
It's not about any geo-political objectives. It's all about maximizing arms sales to as many places in the world as possible. Big profits are involved. Chaos is good for business.
Don't forget about the NG pipeline that Assad won't let go through to compete with Russian NG in Europe. What the US is doing in Syria is the same thing as if Canada funded "freedom fighers" in the US to kill Obama for blocking the Keystone pipeline. Would the US media spin that differently than what the US has done in Syria?
Lets put it in perspective shall we?
The Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC.
18 Trillion in Debt
200 + Trillion in unfunded liabilities
A Military over stretched fighting in at least six fronts
A Bankrupt debt ceiling
Arming, funding & training terror organizations
Illegal wars of aggression
CIA drug running & money laundering through the tax payer TBTFBANKS
QE / Monetization of debt
Torture
NSA illegal wire tapping
Collapse eminent
.. but otherwise, doing God's work.
anyone care to name those six fronts, with brief descriptions?
really trying to inform myself here.
thx
Iraq
Afghanistan
Lybia
Syria
Yemen
Ukraine
Wow, that's exceptional.
These traits are just becoming visible to the common man. A collapse may take decades to unfold, given the means the US government has at their disposal to control the masses.
And when the collapse comes the average Joe Blow is going to ask why us ?
Why you ? Because you have long lost your brain and balls in front of the TV..
Always keep in the back of your head that this may be exactly what the above-super-power-powers intended. And its all just an act to keep us peoples of nationstates busy. imo It's all going way too smooth.. so far.
Here is DC's next move:
https://cryptome.org/2015/10/sec-check-cities.pdf
The next group KIA the reason to go into Iran after Syria and Jordan. Wish they would just go ahead so we can collapse already
...Wish they would just go ahead so we can collapse already"
Well don't hold your breath waiting cause these swans were going to get the dominos falling..imminently
swiss gold ref, jade helm, brics bank, falling comex inventories, treasuries dumped for gold, putin in syria, schemitah and two hundred more since 2008, all bringing hope of consequences finally only to fade away as non-events.
but eventually yes
If this is the way the US finally stops making every other country's business our business while ignoring our actual business, I'm cool with that.
You're highly inteligent
I normally reserve my judgement until someone tries to spell "intelligent". Notwithstanding, sounds good to me.
You folks make me laugh. Americans don’t care about mass shootings or bombing hospitals. They only care about their wealth, i.e. the stock market. If the market goes up, the whole f***ing world can be incinerated, nobody cares. But, if stocks tank, revolution talk will fill the air. It has been that way for decades now. The oligarchs and bankers know how to keep the lemmings under control with I-Toys, HDTVs, SUVs and lots of debt. So long as Joe Sixpack has enough $ for beer, chips, and cigarettes, he can be lead along like an obedient puppy. Wars are to “spread democracy” he is told, we are good, “they” are all bad. The average IQ of this country falls every year and millions more illegals will only make it go even lower. Trump is our last hope, and even that is doubtful with D.C. a complete joke. The government is one gigantic debt-ridden jobs program, to prevent social unrest. Millions take their handouts each month and don’t burn the cities down. Win-win.
Austerity means pain…won’t happen. Kick the can…
The last hope is to lose all hope of being saved. The structure is rotten, and the foundation is a sinkhole.
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Well Trump is the master of strategic bankruptcy while also preserving maximum personal wealth, so he may be just the man that the FED wants in the job.
Will you assholes stop thinking Americans ALL think this way...
" That word you are saying It doesnt mean what you think it means"
Interesting read on history from Starikov. Seems to be a history from Russian perspective focusing on international financiers.... Earlier episodes at bottom of episode. I am guessing this relates to the current situation.
http://orientalreview.org/2015/04/25/episode-15-poland-betrayed-vi/
The Czars didn't like 'em either, he wouldn't play ball...plus there was that Halford MacKinder guy... see what happened.
Define sentience?
The ability to judge time, pain, creativity, indecision, need, compassion?
Notice how I digress?
Does this mean horse face loses funding for his library in South Chicago?
That reminds me; have friends in Sun Valley, Idaho. They claim Kerry has already bought commercial land there and is working the regs for his own "Library". Maybe the MSM (oh, fat chance there) will jump on it...'ya reckon?
Why would he build anything there?
What are his ties to Idaho?
I don't think good pasture to graze on counts.
Welcome back Billy. Stronger than ever.
Why the long face, Long John's about to become a legend in his own underwear .
this whole charade about ussa, turkey, and saudi arabia [qatar] fighting in syria with the UN coalition of the freedom`istic welling?... having fought their own shadow'd`sanguinary hegemonistic incubus creation without a tymeout is all but a global fool's errand, an american people the butt of the joke...[!]
think how easy a battle it should have been on open desert, with few large mountains as obstacles.
think the geography of afghanistans' 'spin ghar mountains' and the majestic 'hindu kush' connecting to the highest mountain range in the world being the 'himalaya's where 9/10 mountains are the highest in the entire world!
the dreaded 'khyber pass', and subtle "Boland Pass' not to forget the 'Salang Highway'... all in afghanistan [geography and its curse ] and yet bush #41 'Gulf War ' finnished off the iraqi army/country in a fortnight ... and the exceptionalist can't win a battle in 4 yrs.
wht a fucking insult on the american people...!
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/Kotal-e_Salang
http://www.himalayanholidays.pk/baluchistan_bolanpass.html
From Chupacabra's post:
18 Trillion in Debt
200 + Trillion in unfunded liabilities
A Military over stretched fighting in at least six fronts
A Bankrupt debt ceiling
Arming, funding & training terror organizations
Illegal wars of aggression
CIA drug running & money laundering through the tax payer TBTFBANKS
QE / Monetization of debt
Torture
NSA illegal wire tapping
Collapse eminent
That's just the tip of the iceberg. Let's get the list going. Here are a few more.
9/11 cover up.
Constitution ripped to shreded by the Patriot Act.
The middle class on life support.
1% owns 90% of the wealth, the most since the 1920s.
Your zip code determines if you get a good education.
A college education costs more than it's worth ($100K in debt).
Obamacare is really a sham to enrich the medical related corporations and bankrupt the middle class.
Our freedom has been eroded to the point where we are all now on a list, with links to our personal history.
The dept of homeland security is armed to the teeth. Exactly who is their "homeland" enemy?
Racial tension has never been higher.
America is divided politically and by economic status.
The budgets of many of our states, cities, and counties are hanging by a thread.
We have a mass shooting about every 3 to 6 months.
There are more suicides in the military than causualties on the battlefield.
At least half of the country is over-weight (I'm being conservative).
Our inner cities are dangerous and degrading by the day.
No one is fixing our problems.
Drug and alchol abuse is rampant.
We have more people in jail than all of the rest of the world combined.
Corporations own the government.
Our foreign policy is a secret. Why? Because everything the government does has become a secret.
Now that we have the facts, let me make a few predictions.
America has passed its peak and is in decline.
We will now devolve downward until we must default on our debt.
The economy will implode, creating a huge unemployment problem.
Pensions and socical security and medicare will all be rationed off to a small minority of people, or perhaps none.
America will begin to resemble a third-world nation.
We will abandoned all of our foreign military bases.
Our military will shrivel up and become one of national defense only.
People will leave the major cities in droves, creating pockets of new small communities.
Our lifestyles will become localized and much more simple.
The country will breakup into a series of countries, with the Republic of Texas leading the way.
Regards,
Newager
Quite right, and some people are too stupid to smell the coffee.
Fuck me if the ^above^ doesn't sound like the perfect Hegelian Dialectic to float a "Obama - Dicktaster for life" proposition turd.
I left out 49 Million on food stamps & 23% unemployment. But hey, I didn't want to go to bed depressed. Oh yea, False Flags too.
The only real 'solution' to this list (which isn't really a solution, just a relatively more sustainable path) would be splitting the territory of the current "U.S." into multiple political entities. Maintaining central control will cripple anyone and everyone who tries to hang on. The first to attempt to break off, however, will face one hell of a battle...
"providing Iran and Russia with a unique opportunity to tip the scales and seize power in the Mid-East."
Seize power my ass. Someone had to stop "Just Us" and clean up Obummer's mess.
The world finally sees the USSA for what it has become... Murder, Inc.
I've imbibed multiple Mediterranean charts.
Putin is NOT trying to acquire territory/ What's up with that douche nozzle in Turkey?
His name is
Recep Tayyip ErdoGan, is the 12th and current President of Turkey, in office since 2014Supplant your populous much Erdogan? How's NATO treating you?
Erdogan is playing both sides now.
He will have chose soon.
He hates the West more than he hates Russia.
Let's hope so
1) March 30, 2014 "leaked tapes apparently featured Erdogan on the phone telling his son to hide hundreds of millions of dollars at home". The CIA, not the FSB.
2) August 16, 2015 "Spain has made no decision to withdraw its Patriot surface-to-air missiles from Turkey, and was surprised when the United States and Germany announced withdrawals on 15/16 August, officials state.
According to the Ministry of Defence (MoD), they were given no forewarning of the US and German decision." Were they asked to leave?
3) The Turkish Stream pipeline deal with Russia.
~34 planes ... that's a regional airpower 'juggernaught' huh?
juggernaut (i/?d????rn??t/ JUG-?r-not), in current English usage, is a literal or metaphorical force regarded as mercilessly destructive and unstoppable.
OK ... I'm cool with that ... I like a splash of fiction ... a mighty 'juggernaught' it is then. :D hahaha!
Mercilessly Destructive - hitting anything that looks like a terrorist, despite western powers wailing about their "assets".
Unstoppable - are US, Israeli, Saudi or Turkish planes doing anything about them? No?
"OK ... I'm cool with that ... I like a splash of fiction ... "
We know.
That word is another symptom of the typical slavic/russkie inferiority complex and its constant collective need to pretend they're more than they are, and oh ssssoooo scary. But they just look and sound pathetic to everyone else, who falls about laughing at their bullshit. :D
Krist even Jordan's 42 F-16s could clean up those shitty old Su25s and Su24s, and shoot down the Su30s and Su34s as well.
Juggernaut it is not. Exposed little collection of mostly old obsolete crap, it is though.
Muricaan much?
Some shitty Russian planes gave the US Airforce
a giant shock more than a decade ago when they played war games with India.
They lost the games to the Indians because the US Airforce got smoked.
...but keep living in you delusional state.
Underestimate another's strength and then start a war with them. It is how many powers fell throughout history.
Yeah, sure they did, a scripted exercise they were supposed to win as the Eagles were required by the script to use none of their capabilities. ;-)
Dream on fool.
Beads of perspiration!
Yes, you probably have malaria, untreated it leads to delirium, like you've been experiencing. Quinine.
And you seem to think I support a 'side', even though I told you I don't, and you told me that you do. Can't figure it out, are you retarded or what?
I am well aware of the fact that you don't support a side.
That said, even the dimmest 'objective observer' would have be blind not to notice how you excoriate Putin and Russia while Obama and the West are flicked off like an invisable piece of lint on your navy blue Armani blazer. :o/
you don't like blazers now? ... what the hell is wrong with you?!!
Hey bud if you really think Putin's Russia is paradise on a stick or in any way better or preferable to the side that feeds you, I suggest you put down that plate for broiled fish and pack your shit up and move to Crimea or the Urals.
Then all your pootie this and that, and pootie is so wonderful, and like waaaaayy better than the other guy's popcorn, will be quickly and painfully resolved.
I bet you don't have the actions to accompany your delusional conviction and pootie-pootie baloney though.
http://www.migflug.com/jetflights/russian-air-force.html
Of course, that said, it's difficult to find any combination of two halfway equipped NATO countries (including Turkey) that don't combine for greater totals--and that's obviously excluding the US fleets.
NATO could quickly crush Russia on that basis. Now one sees Putin's concern about his borders and the reason we all might give more serious thought to the possibility of nuclear conflagration ignited by our own dear neo-cons.
You are way out there with your theory. People of the West will not stand to join an open war with Russia. No freaking way anyone is ever going to fall for that one. The thing now is whether the psychopaths in command in the US/Isreal will go for a nuclear option if they realize they have lost. Kind of like: "If we can't have our power, no one will".
Has anyone noticed alot of MSM websites are turning off their commenting systems or at least being very selective on where the commenting system can be placed.
It has been like that for years.
The only thing thiis administration is good at, is at bending over.
Washington: "zzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzz"
Obama: "I am going to fundamentally change the United States"
Kerry: "I know there's a Nobel Peace Prize around here somewhere. After all, O got one."
Thereza Heinz Kerry: "Oh, I'm little nurse fuzzy-wuzzy, I shall have only one or two more gin-soaked raisins."
Powers behind the curtain: "our careful plans are working as expected..."
Obama: "Oh, Russia, Russia beware the Syrian quagmire."
Meantime a C-130 crashes Friday in Afghanistan killing 14, including 5 contractors who are never mentioned when discussing American personnel there. Then on Saturday an AC-130 bombed a hospital in the Afghan city of Kunduz.
Do we know about quagmires, or what?
The missing Piece of the Puzzle is Suleimeni from Iran. He is the smartest operative in the Middle East today. He went to Moscow a few weeks ago and set this whole thing up.
Although I avoid invoking the Book of Revelations - this is looking very close. By the time this plays out ... we will see all of the superpowers fighting in the Middle East, plus Iran, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Hezbollah, Jordan, the Gulf States, a host of proxies, and EVERY jihadist who believes that Armageddon is around the corner.
This is becoming a true UNITED NATIONS of war and destruction.
china needs to be there physically and visibly be seen in syra also (the info on whether they are or are not is still vague) even putting just two jets parked on the russian aircraft tarmac would be huge optics wise for the world and the western media.
Someone's plan is working out: Germany is being bastardized with millions of stinking Moslem Arabs (Turks have already captured a great deal) , Italy is becoming Detroit - and Europe is becomeing Eruabia - now who could have planned and executed this death of Western Civ.
How many migrated into Israel??
I assume you mean migrated to Israel from Europe following the migrant surge.
What a happy co-incidence.
Big door wide open for Russia in ME
Not unsuspected by some of us
After all, it is written
Running out of time folks
You ran out of time a long time ago, dsty
You confuse who is in control and what the objectives are. Obama, Kerry, et. al, are not in control of foreign policy. The MIC controls foreign policy. Peace is not the objective. Continued revenue-generating conflict is the objective.It looks to me like the people in control have just guaranteed conflict and a good revenue stream for the next decade. I'd say everything is going exactly according to plan.
Its all about the money. Bottom line is Russia and the Chinese get the oil with the POS obama blessing. The usa gets wind, sun and abundant hot gasses from Washington.
Could see big trouble for the Royals/Elites in the Kingdom. These Sunni junk yard dogs will turn rabid after defeat in Syria / Iraq and bite the hand of their masters. Maybe Iran funds some homegrown terrorists to destabilize the KSA. Payback is a bitch.
US destabilize ME.
ME invite Putin come in take over.
Putin has no love muslim extremist. China has no love muslim extremist. US has no love muslim extremist. "Extremist" or not, prognosis for muslims under Putin rule not favorable.
In US, if we bomb a hospital, or any other unacceptable colateral damage, it makes headlines. The Russians are not bound by the same sensitivities.
This maybe why no muslim characters on Star Trek.
Well, there was Dr. Bashir on Deep Space Nine. In any event, Star Trek is the product of Hollywood, which is run by people that view Islam as a threat to their tribe, so the dearth of Muslim characters in their shows should not be surprising.
On a more practical note, there are millions of Muslims living peacefully in Moscow and Putin just attended the opening of a new mosque that can house thousands of worshippers there. Islam has been part of Russian culture for hundreds of years. I don't think Putin's Muslim allies in Iran, Syria or elsewhere have anything to fear from him. Can't say the same for Jews, however, so the Israelis may be in for an ugly surprise as Russia gets deeper involved on their doorstep.
Rhett72 -- jews live comfortable lives in all Europeon cities. Yet they are encouraging massive muslim migration to those same cities. Eliminating White Man is the jew agenda as I see it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ
When Russia bombs a hospital, it's Putin's fault.
When US bombs a hospital, it's some second lieutenant's fault.
MSM = Gobbels My Lie Media
Thing is - Russia hasn't bombed a Hospital ( yet) unlike the USA which has bombed Hospitals & other civilian dwellings ALL over the Middle East & Asia in the past 50 years. The USA has killed millions & is responsible for the current massive wave of civilians fleeing to.
If you're American there's nothing to be proud of here. (Nor for Australia with our involvement)
I should have said "If Russia bombs a hospital..." I didn't mean to imply they had.
MSM = Old Soviet Pravda.
when an empire is as large as that of the nazi ruled united states, one former corpse of a superpower like 'russia' need only poke it's belly for the empire's hubristic sense of omnipotence to be shattered.
when the 800 pound gorrilla shows weakness, all of theo ther monkeys begin howling. and that is precisely what is now starting. it's been a long time coming, at least 7 years. russia , the bear, finally poked the gorilla.
but everyone knows that this story is going to go on for many more decadse, the really scary chapter is when the dragon awakes. the gorilla will find that the soviet bear strategy of collapsing to a pulp into modern day russia, or a post modern day post united states, will not be so easy with the chinese.
they have the economic long term wherewithawal to play the long ball game of economic warfare. and if they cannot conquer the world that way, they will bleed themselves to gain the upper hand. it's simply a population game at this point. and of course, there are simply too many asian americans to stop them from spying on the american military from within.
espionage and human intel is going to make a BIG comeback oneday from its now current status as second fiddle to signals intel.
If China plays for long term results, they must be aware of the significance of access to clean fresh water. Their top one to five percent, who can figur out a way to leave mainland China, wil likely be fine. The rest, not so much.
Water will be the next major source of conflict, IMHO.
Whats up with so many people quoting religious bullshit from the bible? Its all geopolitics.
Your totally right and maybe it's time these jews, Wahabi and Neo cons get wiped out. They have never wanted peace in the middle east and never will!
The bible itself is geopolitics.
All the major religions around the world are founded upon stories, (stolen from more ancient stories), and used to keep humanity penned up.
Predicting that "a prophet" would eventually come is no different than predicting that the Cubs will win the World Series.
It's not "a coup". They are only trying to clean up the place of fundamentalist sunni terrorists.
How long do you think the people will accept living in terror if they can do something about it? They want peace restored, not "power grabs".
You seem to forget there are actual people living there, you know, humans like you and me. And they don't like terrorists anymore than you do.
What is Russia's biggest problem right now? Low oil prices. That will be corrected with their Iranian allies help.
Dear Christians, enjoy the latest slap in the face by Jewish Hollywood this Christmas - and remember, you couldn't do it to them, but they can do it to you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eDN-l8-ZDw
Jews Boast of Owning Hollywood—But Slam Gentiles Who Say the Same
http://newobserveronline.com/jews-boast-of-owning-hollywood-but-slam-gen...
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Document:Jews_Boast_of_Owning_Hollywood_-_Bu...
https://www.facebook.com/nagdeems/posts/193203527383392?_fb_noscript=1
Chimps verses Bears
who wins , anybody's guess