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The Largest US Foreign Policy Blunder Since Vietnam Is Complete: Iran Readies Massive Syrian Ground Invasion
On Thursday, in “Mid-East Coup: As Russia Pounds Militant Targets, Iran Readies Ground Invasions While Saudis Panic”, we attempted to cut through all of the Western and Russian media propaganda on the way to describing what Moscow’s involvement in Syria actually portends for the global balance of power. Here are a few excerpts that summarize what’s taking shape in the Middle East:
Putin looks to have viewed this as the ultimate geopolitical win-win. That is, Russia gets to i) expand its influence in the Middle East in defiance of Washington and its allies, a move that also helps to protect Russian energy interests and preserves the Mediterranean port at Tartus, and ii) support its allies in Tehran and Damascus thus preserving the counterbalance to the US-Saudi-Qatar alliance.
Meanwhile, Iran gets to enjoy the support of the Russian military juggernaut on the way to protecting the delicate regional nexus that is the source of Tehran’s Mid-East influence. It is absolutely critical for Iran to keep Assad in power, as the loss of Syria to the West would effectively cut the supply line between Iran and Hezbollah.
It would be difficult to overstate the significance of what appears to be going on here. This is nothing short of a Middle Eastern coup, as Iran looks to displace Saudi Arabia as the regional power broker and as Russia looks to supplant the US as the superpower puppet master.
In short, the Pentagon’s contention that Russia and Iran have formed a Mid-East “nexus” isn’t akin to the Bush administration’s hollow, largely bogus attempt to demonize America’s foreign policy critics in the eyes of the public by identifying an “axis of evil.” Rather, the Pentagon’s assessment was an attempt to come to grips with a very real effort on the part of Moscow and Tehran to tip the scales in the Mid-East away from Riyadh and Washington.
Solidifying the Assad regime in Syria serves to shore up Hezbollah and presents Tehran with an opportunity to assert itself in the name of combatting terror. The latter point there is critical. The West has long contended that Iran is the world’s foremost state sponsor of terror, and the Pentagon has variously accused the Quds Force of orchestrating attacks on US soldiers in Iraq after cooperation between Washington and Tehran broke down in the wake of Bush’s “axis of evil” comment.
Indeed, Iran was accused of masterminding a plot to kill the Saudi ambassador at a Washington DC restaurant in 2011.
Now, the tables have turned. It is the US, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar who stand accused of sponsoring Sunni extremists and it is Iran, and specifically the Revolutionary Guard, that gets to play hero.
Of course this would be largely impossible without Moscow’s stamp of superpower approval. The optics around the P5+1 nuclear deal were making it difficult for Tehran to be too public in its efforts to bolster Assad. That doesn’t mean Tehran’s support for the regime in Syria hasn’t been well documented for years, it simply means that Iran needed to observe some semblance of caution, lest its role in Syria should end up torpedoing the nuclear negotiations. Now that Moscow is officially involved, that caution is no longer obligatory and Iran is now moving to support Russian airstrikes with an outright ground incursion (just as we’ve been saying for weeks). Here’s WSJ:
Iran is expanding its already sizable role in Syria’s multisided war in the wake of Russia’s airstrikes, despite the risk of antagonizing the U.S. and its Persian Gulf allies who want to push aside President Bashar al-Assad.
Politicians in the region close to Tehran as well as analysts who have been closely following its role in Syria say a decision has been made, in close coordination with the Russians and the Assad regime, to increase the number of fighters on the ground through Iran’s network of local and foreign proxies.
The support also could involve more Iranian commanders, military advisers and expert fighters usually assigned to these units, these people said.
Wiam Wahhab, a former Lebanese minister allied to Iran and Mr. Assad, stressed that Iran wouldn’t be dispatching troops in the conventional sense. Instead, they were likely to be officers and advisers from the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, or IRGC, he said.
“I know there is a major battle upon us and everything needed for this battle will be made available,” said Mr. Wahhab, who has some members from his own political party fighting in Syria alongside the regime. “There is a plan to carry out offensive operations in more than one spot.”
Experts believe Iran has some 7,000 IRGC members and Iranian paramilitary volunteers operating in Syria already.
Separate from the regular army, the IRGC was founded in the aftermath of the 1979 revolution as an ideological “people’s army” reporting directly to the supreme leader, Iran’s top decision maker.
The more than 100,000-strong force controls a vast military, economic and security power structure in Iran and is in charge of proxies across the region. Its paramilitary organization, the Basij, was the lead force in the crackdown on pro-democracy demonstrators in 2009.
Since late 2012 Iran has played a lead role in organizing, training and funding local pro-regime militias in Syria, many of them members of Mr. Assad’s Alawite minority, a branch of Shiite Islam. Experts believe they number between 150,000 and 190,000—possibly more than what remains of Syria’s conventional army.
What’s more, some experts estimate 20,000 Shiite foreign fighters are on the ground, backed by both Shiite Iran and its main proxy in the region, the Lebanese Shiite militia Hezbollah.
About 5,000 of them are new arrivals from Iraq in July and August alone, said Phillip Smyth, a researcher at the University of Maryland. He said this figure was compiled through his own contacts with some of these fighters, flight data between Baghdad and Damascus as well as social media postings. “It looks like it was timed out to coincide with the Russian move,” Mr. Smyth said.
Yes, it certainly does "look like" that, and it wasn't hard to see this coming. Here's another excerpt from our recent analysis:
Back in June, the commander of Iran’s Quds Force, Qasem Soleimaini, visited a town north of Latakia on the frontlines of Syria’s protracted civil war. Following that visit, he promised that Tehran and Damascus were set to unveil a new strategy that would “surprise the world.”
Just a little over a month later, Soleimani - in violation of a UN travel ban - visited Russia and held meetings with The Kremlin.
Make no mistake, this is shaping up to be the most spectacular US foreign policy debacle since Vietnam - and we don't think that's an exaggeration.
The US, in conjunction with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, attempted to train and support Sunni extremists to overthrow the Assad regime. Some of those Sunni extremists ended up going crazy and declaring a Medeival caliphate putting the Pentagon and Langley in the hilarious position of being forced to classify al-Qaeda as "moderate." The situation spun out of control leading to hundreds of thousands of civilian deaths and when Washington finally decided to try and find real "moderates" to help contain the Frankenstein monster the CIA had created in ISIS (there were of course numerous other CIA efforts to arm and train anti-Assad fighters, see below for the fate of the most "successful" of those groups), the effort ended up being a complete embarrassment that culminated with the admission that only "four or five" remained and just days after that admission, those "four or five" were car jacked by al-Qaeda in what was perhaps the most under-reported piece of foreign policy comedy in history.
Meanwhile, Iran sensed an epic opportunity to capitalize on Washington's incompetence. Tehran then sent its most powerful general to Russia where a pitch was made to upend the Mid-East balance of power. The Kremlin loved the idea because after all, Moscow is stinging from Western economic sanctions and Vladimir Putin is keen on showing the West that, in the wake of the controversy surrounding the annexation of Crimea and the conflict in eastern Ukraine, Russia isn't set to back down. Thanks to the fact that the US chose extremists as its weapon of choice in Syria, Russia gets to frame its involvement as a "war on terror" and thanks to Russia's involvement, Iran gets to safely broadcast its military support for Assad just weeks after the nuclear deal was struck. Now, Russian airstrikes have debilitated the only group of CIA-backed fighters that had actually proven to be somewhat effective and Iran and Hezbollah are preparing a massive ground invasion under cover of Russian air support. Worse still, the entire on-the-ground effort is being coordinated by the Iranian general who is public enemy number one in Western intelligence circles and he's effectively operating at the behest of Putin, the man that Western media paints as the most dangerous person on the planet.
As incompetent as the US has proven to be throughout the entire debacle, it's still difficult to imagine that Washington, Riyadh, London, Doha, and Jerusalem are going to take this laying down and on that note, we close with our assessment from Thursday:
If Russia ends up bolstering Iran's position in Syria (by expanding Hezbollah's influence and capabilities) and if the Russian air force effectively takes control of Iraq thus allowing Iran to exert a greater influence over the government in Baghdad, the fragile balance of power that has existed in the region will be turned on its head and in the event this plays out, one should not expect Washington, Riyadh, Jerusalem, and London to simply go gentle into that good night.
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Long Orville Redinbockers....
Gosh, it's like we are TRYING to shoot ourselves in the foot.
"I will Barry you."
-Kruschev
Wasn't Syria supposed to be Russia's new Afghanistan?
They don't need to mobilise their ground troops. Iran is only too happy to mobilise theirs instead.
Iran will wipe out the terrorists on the ground.
BTW, the UN's evacuation of terrorists out of Syria is canceled due to “surge of military activity”.
The UN had arranged for the evacuation of Sunni fighters and their families, which is surrounded by government forces.
http://www.rt.com/news/317068-russia-isis-islamic-syria/
The Middle East does not hate us for our freedom, they hate us for our foreign policy
The Satanic Amerikan Neocon/Neoliberal humanitarian bombers attacked and invaded Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Sudan, killing millions, trying to make the world safe for USSA banksters and the MIC. This is the result, the uniting of Russia, China, Iran against the USSA and stooges.
For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind
Share with us your wisdom .... on fixing Latin America's problems .... let me guess .... moar socialism ?
But we have an ace in the hole - Kerry, thank God!
We are so fucked!
Fundamental Transformation
better get used to it
Don't our enemies realize America has a Magic Negro in charge?
And then there's China about to deploy their troops to Syria.
Well, it looks like US state foreign policy is just as effective as Obamacare.
Of course you need to understand that the purpose of these policies is to create Cloward and Pivens, Van Jones and Bill Ayers etc. dysfunction and chaos so that the existing structures collapse and can be rebuilt in some grand collectivist, exploitative, fascist elite managed oligarchy.
To that end, the strategy is working amazingly well.
I see this as a huge coup for American foreign policy. By having Russia and Iran do all the fighting they pay all the costs and attract all the hatred. We sit back and look shocked and dismayed. I'm all for someone else doing the fighting.
China, Russia and Iran will effectively control Syria and Iraq.
Then petrogold.
Destroy that Zionist shit hole to the south.
You should check the Bible on that one (Battle of Armageddon). It's predicted the restored Israel (which happened in 1948) will defeat all enemies and it's army will be invincible.
The Jews made sure to write a lot about how great and special and chosen they were, in their own holy book.
Didnt even see a problem with taking whatever suited them from the old Sumerian lore and just changing major facts about it to make them appear anointed and destined to control the world.
That pretty much makes all religions of Abrahamic root one big relatively fake story with 3 branches to it.
Petro-Ruble or Petro-Yuan in the future.
How is this not a win for America? We've got Russian and Iran doing our dirty work. Barry is the new Tom Sawyer getting the fools to paint his fence.
It's beyond fake. It's delusional.
A self-referential book cannot be used to validate itself...
Person 1: "The Bible is True!"
Person 2: "Prove it!
Person 1: "Look, it says right here!" (points to passage in Bible)
Time has proven the numerous predictions in the Bible have come true, one after another. The most important of these was where the Dead Sea Scrolls proved the Old Testament was written hundreds of years before the birth of Jesus, yet predicted his coming, his forgiveness of sin, his rejection by the Jews, his death on the cross and his resurrection. Over 2,000 prophecies in the Bible have come true out of 2,500 or so predictions. The last ones yet to come are in the Book of Revelation.
This is not random chance.
The Zionist state of Israel is not the Restored Israel written of in the bible.
The Restored Isreal is talking about being spiritually restored, not physically. It's like you don't even understand the bible.
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he Zionist state of Israel is not the Restored Israel written of in the bible.
That is just silly. Of course it is.
The Restored Isreal is talking about being spiritually restored, not physically. It's like you don't even understand the bible.
It's always fascinated me in this modern era with Google why people will lie about something that can be checked in seconds and exposed as a lie. So why do it? Here are 8 "physical" restorations predictons about Israel that have come true.
1. Israel will prevail over its enemies
2. The ruins of Israel would be rebuilt
3. Ezekiel prophesied prosperity for modern-day Israel
4. Trees again would grow in Israel
5. Jerusalem would become the world's most important religious site
6. Zechariah prophesied the Jews return to Jerusalem
7. Israel's deserts will become like the Garden of Eden
8. Isaiah foretold of the worldwide return of Jews to Israel.
http://www.therefinersfire.org/recent_prophecy.htm
LIKE Carlin said years ago. That big man in the sky who forgives all and condemns all to hell that do not hand over the cash and power
It is a mind game to be so barinwashed that the "Harry Potter" of religion is some "truth" you accept without any critical analysis. The guy in the Sky, And these Islamist "guys in the sky" are wrong??? Because their fairy tale is less refined or whatever?
Religion is propoganda.
I have a news flash for you. George Carlin believed in GOD. See his interview with Larry King.
I'll also add that the Bible has foretold the future approx 2,000 times correctly and never has been shown to be wrong once, that should convince you it's on to something. It that doesn't work - nothing will ever convince you, so get lost and stop wasting my time.
But GW posts are self-referencial and all his ZH fans think he is the best. If he posts it, it is true, because he says so in his blogs.
Bring on the down votes stooges.
===The Jews made sure to write a lot about how great and special and chosen they were, in their own holy book.===
John the Apostle was a Christian who wrote the Book of Revelation.
and William Shakespeare wrote Hamlet they say, but I can't prove it....did you know Horus was born on Dec. 25 and began his ministry at 11 years, was crcified and arose from the dead after three days....hummm seems at lot of plagiarism takes place with religious writings and that the sun after reaching its furthest southern point or its death after three days has risen 1 degree in its resurrection...etcetera
Don't confuse the subject now with misc ramblings that have nothing to do with the topic. If you can't stay on topic, don't bother me.
The topic is "foreign policy blunder"
Standard Disclaimer: YOU ARE THE ONE WAY OFF TOPIC.
...and Principles of Maat vs. the Cliffs Notes/10 Commandments
according to Jordan Maxwell, the Hebrew language is really Phoenician language
Hmm, they sound "exceptional".
I think you are confusing the Bible with a book by Hal Lindsay or that nut job in San Antonio John Hagee, or one of those novels. Revisionist prophecy like this was invented in your lifetime.
Im all for Petro Gold instead of Petro Fiat
“a huge coup for American foreign policy.”
There is a chance it could be, but I suspect that would be in spite of their ineptitude.
Regardless, it won’t work not out well for the ordinary person here, or over there.
I wonder what a good US foriegn policy in Syria would look like to all the people downvoting you. My guess is billions spent and thousands of US troops dead in yet another attempt to civilize those that want nothing to do with the West.
they were pretty civilized before we got there
Syria, I suppose. Assad seems good for the country. Apart from the 0.00000000002% of his actions, of course, which are just awful. But let's keep focused on that 0.00000000002%.
When you collapse current structure and introduce chaos, hoping to then get order out of that chaos, you might not get the end result you are looking for.
There might not be any order but more chaos or the order will not be what you expected.
Take the French Revolution for example. First it was the King and Queen who lost their head. Soon enough more and more followed, including those that participated in the revolution.
Read up on Robespierre and see how things turned out for him.
Robspierre got so crazy that one could say that he lost his head over it.
Then they got Emperor Bonaparte.
Quite so. We need to bring back the joker who followed the Roman emperors around whispering, "You are mortal. You are mortal."
Don't know if that passes muster with Wikipedia history gurus but the idea is sound.
It's all comedy now, anyway.
When you collapse current structure and introduce chaos, hoping to then get order out of that chaos, you might not get the end result you are looking for.
There might not be any order but more chaos or the order will not be what you expected.
Take the French Revolution for example. First it was the King and Queen who lost their head. Soon enough more and more followed, including those that participated in the revolution.
Read up on Robespierre and see how things turned out for him.
The French Revolution was effective, and ended up eliminating about 40,000, inlcuding some whose only offense was owning land. In a revolution, it is essential that TPTB are not around to influence the reset. Nota bene.
A templar-controlled, ugly thing. A sick rose, not the revolt of romantic or democratic idealism. A fomented event.
how do you fit Van Jones in on that comment?
Jones was a "rising star" person who would have played a larger role with the BHO admin, but because he "signed" a 9/11 petition/issue questioning it, the usual suspects pounced on that and made him resign and difficult to do more other than sideshow boobytooby TV...
Where's that from? Chinese have better things to do, build railways, ports, silk road and they also knit good jumpers.
When did Assad fall out with the US I wonder, because I remember seeing a Langley operative on TV by the name of Miles Copeland that 'a new government was installed in Syria'. So who installed the Assads and what exactly happened that they entered the bad books?
Pinto, the Chinese troops will protect Chinese infrastructure in Syria,
If I was working a well head or pre cracker. I would not mind being surrounded by a battalion of chinks (facing the desert).
They wouldn't be taking the prayer rug breaks either.
America ruins the world to rule it. Its what we do.
Zionists ruin the world to rule it. They've been doing it for thousands of years and that's why they've not been welcomed anywhere.
Nuttyahu will be extremely upset. He may come to Amercia and be silent for 50 seconds, possibly a whole minute.
The Nutt has perfected his Kissinger impersonation all the way down to the deep "air of authority" voice. His UN speech was pathetic and desperate, he knows that Russia/Iran et al are about to quickly reverse decades of Zionist/Mossad duplicity and subterfuge throughout the ME.
Israel is truly the wildcard in all of this, the window of opportunity is closing quickly and they will soon be marginalized back to their tiny sandbox if they don't act. It's not too far-fetched that they could threaten the Samson Option on some European capitals or US military bases to drum up "support".
This shit could get crazy fast, truly the showdown at the OK Corral.
X2
Mossad / israel to set off a dirty nuke in an american city, to drum up support......its what these sick fck Israeli zionists do best.
Loved Bibi UN speech.....classic theatre from a war criminal and enemy of all Christians.....but no ones listening.
Israel will get run out of town in the next few years.....you can literally feel it....but for a terribly insecure and malicious and manipulative group of ppl, there was never going to be a happy hapoy joy joy ending.
I'm just embarassed that it has taken Putin 100 hours to do what the US Military couldn't do in a year. That's the headline in Russia and around the world.
Supposedly we conducted 2,000+ air strikes on "ISIS." Somewhere in the Middle East there's a new Toyota truck with a boo boo on its paint job. I'm certain of it. Well, reasonably certain.
It seems the point of the air strikes was not to destroy ISIS....But, rather to prod them in a direction that allowed the US to use them to meet foreign policy objectives. Putin nailed it by pretty much saying ISIS is a creation and proxy of the US.
couldnt do or wouldnt do............big diff........otherwise I agree with ur comment
My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!'
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.
I'm for whoever can fuck the shit out of Israel. Plain and simple. They have too much control over everything.
And there are clowns hiding under your bed...
Israel controls nothing. The oligarchs of Israel (and every other nation for that matter) are responsible for theses human tragedies. Just because the citizens of Israel endure people bombed in their name does not mean I wish to see them bombed. Last time they tried to elect a peaceful PM he was asassinated. Israelis are just as caught in the Matrix as the rest of us. They are no more responsible for NetanYahoo than we are for Obama.
Why not if you are a true NihilistZero? Why not have some new kinda fun where Goyims bombs the Chosenites into pieces?
Nihilist doesn't mean what you think it means...
The worst thing about Israel now is that Nuttyahu is effectively a moderate in terms of Israeli politics.
Don't think for a moment that this is not part of Obama's plan and the plan of his puppet masters.
Anything bad for America, he supports.
He just doesn't like to have to play the role of being bitch-slapped by Putin.
But in the end, Obama is very happy to have Iran's Islamofascism spreading, Russia transforming into the neo-USSER, and America being humiliated.
Oboza is too dumb to be anything more than a wet sock puppet. Planning and executing elaborate conspiracies is well above his IQ capabilities...
Oh, I see. Obama is a stupid low IQ negro Sock Puppet so he's not responsible for anything, but everything that happened on "Bush's Watch" was Bush's fault......Got It!
People who supported hope and change feel duped, and rightly so. The only rationalized defense they can now hold is that Obama is a rube himself, a poor dumb puppet, just like all those who voted for him. Or else there is no difference between right and left, blue and red. If you vote FOR the savior and against the devil and yet the result is unchanged, then from your perspective, there is no difference between the choices.
What about people who supported themselves??
<<People who supported hope and change feel duped, and rightly so.>>
I beg to differ. They have no right to feel duped any more than a thief has a right to feel cheated after failing to rob a victim.
I'm not suggesting they have the right to believe it, I'm saying that this is how they rationalize it. Anyone who voted for Obama has to either fell duped OR stupid...or both. Generally I think most people have the hardest time blaming themselves for much of anything and will spend far more time placing blame on others than ever figuring out where they went wrong.
The vulture has two wings, a left and a right...the both lift the same bird..
... Obama is a stupid low IQ negro Sock Puppet so he's not responsible for anything...
Of course he is responsible, you moron ! You cannot hold a position like POTUS, which means being chief of the US Government AND Commander in Chief, without being responsible. He is fully responsible for getting to wear a hat waay too large for his head. Being stupid doesn't absolve anybody from being guilty...
He is pretty dumb. But he's evil. And he hates America.
And based upon the down votes my previous comment received, it looks like there are a lot of other America-hating spinless jackasses roaming this board.
Odd that. It was a righteous comment.
"Don't think for a moment that this is not part of Obama's plan and the plan of his puppet masters.
Anything bad for America, he supports."
Not sure why you got so down voted for this. It is actually a believable scenario. If Obama was just "incompetent" or "dumb", he would accidentally do something GOOD for America once in a while. Instead, his track record of ruinous decisions and policies is pretty much 100% perfect, and he's gotten away with every single nefarious plan he has implemented (Fast and Furious, Benghazi, Seal Team 6 massacre, IRS abuse, Obamacare, Nuclearizing Iran, etc etc etc). It is entirely believable that he is operating as an agent for China, Russia, and Iran.
"It is entirely believable that he is operating as an agent for China, Russia, and Iran."
And all of them report to the same master.
The only "us"/"them" are those that know... And those that do not know.
Those who know... Know magick...
A magick that creates egregores.
What is under foot is dark as oil. An evil that transcends comprehension.
The counterfeiting of reality.
There was a whole directorate in the old KGB dedicated to propagating lies and half truths. That was imitated in the West in a major way from the time of the New Deal. Witness how McCarthy was shut down by a full-court press of vicious attacks, and I do mean full-court and I do mean vicious. Same with Diana West who strayed off the reservation with her recent book Betrayal.
The "Allies" won the second war and Nazis are right wing. Sacred precepts of the vampire high priests who must control The Narrative.
Immigration and diversity are good for you. Good for you. You are getting very sleepy....
Exactly. If this were his one-and-only screw up, most would write it off as bad luck or one bad decision.
No one, but no one, makes decision after decision that is bad for their country...by accident...or by incompetence.
He still has his stupid supporters who believe in some socialist/fascist utopia, though, if only...if only we give the totalitarians a little more power and we give up just a little more of our freedom.
"...if...if...
We didn't love freedom enough."
- Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
When you eliminate the impossible -- that Obama and his peeps love this country -- what you're left with is the truth, no matter how improbable. Thus, U.S. policies are damaging to U.S. interests by design.
People tend to forget to mention one very important thing.
Iranians, Syrians....Desert fighting is home ground for them. Unlike Equipment overlaoded USSA army mules.
This looks like it's going to get ugly/pretty fast depending on y0our perspective.
And Iranian's are TOUGH people. I've known a few in my Navy days. One, who introduced me to all the great Russian authors, gentle soul, could crack you like a twig.
Plus, payback, blowback, call it what you want.
Feel a little sorry for all the USSA twits and not at all sorry for USSA/CIA mercs, who are going to get their asses handed to them.
I-ran does not run, but some colors we all know do....
Please nigga this isn't hand to hand combat where both sides have equal capability. America has vast military superiority and can bomb, maim and kill from afar. Now clearing out anything entirely requires ground troops but that isn't the intent.
Do you really understand all the factors involved here..."nigga"? Ziociato's pilot-less air-superiority is basically nullified by Russian enforced (and declared) no-fly zones over key areas.
Now that Assad has backing and probably lots of undeclared Russian anti-aircraft assets (plus Iran's obvious anti-drone smarts) the USSA loses it's primary advantage.
That is why all the whining from the Pentagram.
Not that the Ziociato fuckfaces care much or at all about their on-ground losses, they do care about their under-ground golden dream that they see slipping away.
As does the Israhelli leadership, who is obviously behind all this whining....
Understand some military strategy/reality/geo=politics/history and get a clue..."nigga"...
Correct. You don't win these wars just by flying planes and dropping bombs... you need boots on the ground. Enter Syrian gov't troops and Iran. Russian military hardware to clear the ground of any communication/command control from ISIS/Al Nusra/whoever the fuck... Syrian and Iran troops mop up. Wash, rinse, repeat. Unless Israel, the US, or the Saudi's are willing to put in that kind of committment... this should be over fairly quickly. Russia/Iran/Iran are "killing the terrorists", and you can't argue that point, even though they are "our" (US) terrorsts.
It's absolutely brilliant.
Exactly...
I am not sure why isis keeps fighting when they just walk across the border into Germany, Sweden ... or mozie on down to Australia with little fuss or muss and do their dirty work behind enemy lines. The news spins this story to make it look like he is Iranian but actually he is an Iraqi:
The police investigation into yesterday’s fatal terror-related shooting of a NSW Police Force employee in Parramatta will focus on how the lone 15-year-old gunman was radicalized and on his family and friends, 9NEWS understands.
Commissioner Andrew Scipione today confirmed that Iran-born teenager Farad Jabar Khalil Mohammad shot NSW Police Force accountant Curtis Cheng outside the Charles Street police headquarters about 4.30pm yesterday.
Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/10/02/17/01/two-feared-shot-in-par... And the idiot shoots some nerd accountant, no less! Nothing like a stupid tearrist.
Because they have been promised a caliphate and supported by Saudi, US, Qatar, and Israel. I imagine they are going to be pretty upset when they get pushed back all the way to the Saudi border. That's going to be an awkward conversation for the Saudi royals. "Hey guys, I know we promised you stuff... but we're cool, right?"
I'm not sure people realize the long term implications of this move by Russia/Iran/Syria, and probably China (that's a big x factor). Game changing is a phrase used too often, IMO, but this world changing. Like, good-bye petro dollar changing.
Yeah, I was wondering where will they "be pushed back to" since I am still not sure where they even came from?
"Hey guys, I know we promised you stuff... but we're cool, right?"
Spot on with your prediction, it wont take long for ISIS and the other head chopping canibals to realise the Saudi mility would probably welcome them with open arms and they could have their stinking caliphate with Mecca and knobs on. The alternative is death from above and on the ground from people that have a long history of scores to settle.
Mother Jones needs your writing skills.
But what is the end game? I guess it's just a northern boundary to the Sunni Arab 'shenanigans'? Alawite and Shiites only past this point?
What about the Turks and the Kurds? It's a perplexing map.....kind of a narrow strip of Iranian/Syrian/Hezbollah influence cutting in between Turkey and the Sunnis.
I suppose if Turkey, Israel, Saudi and the US were trying some kind of joint regional hegemony, any countermove is better than just taking it. But, not sure how the map is supposed to work in the mid-term.
In the end only three countries matter from a population/center of gravity standpoint: Egypt, Iran and Turkey. Unfortunately for normal people who live there, oil, language and past empires tend to dictate WAR FOR EVER.
The game never really ends, but if I was a Saudi prince I'd be putting together a robust escape plan ensuring that I could leave as many wives behind as possble.
Saudi, Bahrain and Qatar, now that is a house of cards, or maybe that should be ice cubes in the desert.
Oil shock to start with to smoke over the coming economic collapse.
A massive kill off
Round up "survivors" into slave camps.
The perfection of light life boats for some.
The radiation of the planet.
And then the fun begins ...a kin to what PKD has written about.
maybe Israel will send it's ground troops in.
yuck, yuck, yuck...
aka the United States Army
aka another proxy
Last time they tried, they didn't get too far in South Lebanon. The Hezbo boys blew their toys...
Naaawwwwww!
Goyim are worthless, send their children to die for the master race, ooops I meant God's choosen people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMS5ae7URO8
Good Point R.I. The long range high altitude drones are super easy pickin's for a nation with modern air defence capabilities. "Push button" war only works against low tech states.
Lame.
They said the same things about fighting in Iraq.
We so destroyed Iraq's military that Qaddafi said, "I saw what they did to Iraq and I was frightened." He consequently gave up his weapons programs as a result.
Make no mistake, if we wanted to destroy Syria, we could.
If we wanted to destroy Iran, we could.
But Obama the Islamofascist has no such intentions.
His goal is to help Islamofascists and to destroy America.
He provided arms to Al Qaeda/ISIS through Benghazi to overthrow Assad and to put his Islamofascist brothers in charge of yet another M.E. country.
He doesn't mind that Putin is helping Assad and Iran will spread its power. Overall, it helps the Islamofascists and hurts America. He sees it as a win, even if he has to take some bitch slaps from Putin, as choreographed as professional wrestling.
You destroyed Iraq and Libya? Libya now is the main supplier and training ground for ISIS and Iraq is about to deploy its' US equipped military against our people in Syria.
HHMMMMMM
This is all the work of the synagogue of satan. I can't help but think of how many people would still be alive on this planet and how much property would still be productive if it were not for their influence over our government in general and foreign policy in particular.
I am just so fucking sick of all this war bullshit. Time to put the finger on those responsible and make them accountable.
Yes, we did. The military campaign was over in a matter of months.
The rest of the war, that's where America loses its mind and spine and loses.
Bunch of idiots who think if America really wanted to wipe out a country that we couldn't...and then turn around and point to the continuous war crimes and humanitarian violations we commit by imposing our military on them.
Not saying we will or should. Just saying that if we have a president determined to turn a country to dust, he or she can do so.
Jeffersonian Liberal
posts from Tel Aviv.
spelling gives them away.
Wonder why they feel the need to hide it all the time?
I mean they ARE Chosen and all...why not be up front about it?
They are amongst themselves. Look at Israeli press for instance. For contentious issues, there is usually one version in Hebrew and a sanitised version in English.
The Chosenites, they really are a joke. On the one hand they say the goy are too stupid to understand and on the other it is "schtum, don't let the goy know". The same with their religion and it's restrictions. The big business is working out exemptions and perverse interpretations of words. It is no wonder that they excel as lawyers.
going head to head with Iraq is one thing. Going head to head with Russia is something entirely different.
You might be able to bully a kid from junior high, but try the same shit with a grown man and you're likely to get your ass kicked.
That kind of conflict would likely end with mushroom clouds. Not a pretty prospect.
Wow, if your chalking up Iraq, Libiya and Afghanistan as victories, you might as well include Vietnam in that dang list. I'd hate to participate in a war that you thought you'd had lost.
Actually the Israelis are supporting ISIS...
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=israeli+government+supports+isis
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Report-Israel-treating-al-Qaida-fighter...
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/09/turkey-israel-directly-supporting...
Of course Israel supports ISIS. The intent is for ISIS to be allowed to ethnically cleanse the area of Syria that Israel covets and destabilise the rest. Once that is done, Israel will go into 'kill terrorist' mode following a staged false-flag and massacre or otherwise remove ISIS. This would then allowing Israel (in its eyes) to claim the fertile land as 'a safety buffer'. They probably already have settlement plans waiting read to go. The finance is already sorted - Uncle Sugar.
Not to mention Iran is a very ancient culture that has been "around the block a few times." These are clever people and know the ME turf very well.
I say the locals excel at ambushes and terror. Out in the open they don't fare well at all. Urban warfare is lots of fun until modern armies take off the gloves.
RealTime-SYRIA: —Russian Operation in Syria: International Law -
Putin emphasized that there are a considerable number of Russian expatriates in the ranks of the Islamic State (IS) and that «if they succeed in Syria, they will inevitably return to their own countries, including Russia». Vladimir Putin also noted that those fighting as part of IS include «thousands of people» from «Europe, Russia, and the countries of the former Soviet Union», and the President’s chief of staff, Sergei Ivanov, has claimed that this number «is growing not by the day but by the hour».
http://www.degaray.com/?p=5298
no... we have an asshole john kerry
just a tad off topic.
why not you tell us of the latest in bit coin platforms?
http://bitcoinist.net/monetas-the-worlds-most-advanced-financial-platform/
Ad hominem, off topic, lame.
World War III about to be declared? This should send S&P to 2400 next week
I think they may be the next US "pivot" in the Bombs for Democracy Program.
That's funny.
Congratulations Monetas! On a spectacular fail! I mean if your post is an attempt to change the focus of debate onto Latin America, a place I might add that has seen US death squads in action for decades. In any event, your obvious troll is a total FAIL! We will stick to the subject at hand, and let you consult the State Department on more advanced ways to troll ZH!
Spanish-speaking officers couldn't graduate from the School for the Americas at Ft. Bragg without a "Death Squad" endorsement on their diplomas. If you weren't certified in coca chemistry it was a waste of time even to apply.
:-)
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Took a beating on that one.
Extract and sell your resources at market price. Develop local industries with skilled workers. Work on it.
PS Just when things are up and running, the methane from cow, pig and chicken assholes will render the planet uninhabitable so you better hurry it up!!!!
false dichotomy
the opposite of neocon crypto fascism is not moar socialism. those are just theft and slavery of different colors.
how about the policy of stay the f' out of other people's countries?
if they want to do business, great, if not, leave em the hell alone.
It's a novel concept. We should try it just for fun.
I think you ought to change your profile name from 'Monetas' to 'Mongoloid' - just sayin'.
HOLY MOLY
! that's the most upvotes/downvotes i've ever seen on zh
Using Bible quotes against America who is largely aligned with Judeo Christian values against the real Great Satan which is the false religion called Islam? My oh my. Sure America has their blunders but when you take sides with a bunch of folks who want to subjugate the world to their false god and religion else you die is beyond the pale.
Jews worship Yahweh the Satan. Jews killed Jesus. Judeo Christian value is a frace. It's not same as the true Christian values. Better call it Talmudic Satanic values. The Kikes ruin everything they touch.
Stupid Jews.
"We, Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain the destroyers forever. Nothing that you do will meet our needs and demands. We will forever destroy because we need a world of our own, a God-world, which is not in your nature to build." (Maurice Samuels, You Gentiles, p. 155)
Merka has been supporting the house of Saud and in alliance with the kykes from the very begining. They are manipulating fucking 'god fearers' to point that they will stop at nothing to kill each other. Darwin, would be proud, this is natural selection in action, getting rid of the stupid in a most efficient manner.
Latina Lover is absolutely correct. Much of current US policy in the ME was/is intended to make a fast buck for American war corporations. Think about. Rumsfeld, and Cheney (and who knows who else) evolved in both the political *and* corporate worlds. Someone should publish the profits made by Boeing, Lockheed and the numerous others who literally killed for profits.......
Between the neo-con corporatists, the Pentagon and the hapless politicians like Obama, and Bush, this US industry has purposely drawn out years of profits for themselves. Murderers everyone of them!
People.... I think we are all being played here. Look at the historical record. The Oblama administration has done nothing but commit blunders of ever increasing import. With a track record of 100% failure who can honestly believe that this is all just a series of mistakes and not an intentional set of planned moves?
If you wanted to destroy the US economy, destroy the dollar as the global reserve currency, weaken the US military, destroy US foreign relations, and still walk away with a taxpayer funded pension and lifetime protection, just what would you do differently than what the Oblamas have done?
Edit: Yes, I still think Oblama is a puppet. Just use his name as a placeholder for TPTB above.
Another Clinton or Bush oughta fix things.
clinton looks like a political and geostrategic genius compared to obama and he got caught spooging on an intern's dress.
bush in comparison looks like a transformative person of real historical import (though also a minion of the devil, imo).
obama is a copycat, chickenshit, simple liar and a tool. also one would think he would have also destroyed the national dsemocratic party (lost both houses of congress), not necessarily a bad thing.
if this is how the american empire reinforces its hegemony then maybe things are looking up.
Actually, Monica's spooging was just the 'icing on the cake' (in a manner of speaking) of Clinton's lying to a Federal Grand jury in the Paula Jones attempted rape case.
She got close, but no cigar for Paula.
Hillary, on the other hand, has a full time Huma-dor at her disposal.
Uh hu uh hu. He said cigar
Obama - the nihilist President.
He's not a nihilist... He BELIEVES... And those things he believes in are VERY dangerous.
Well-timed mess on the dress to distract from Arkansas Development Finance Authority (Mena, Whitewater, etc).
Each successive president has been finding themselves in worse situation than the previous ones. I personally believe that there is no possible way we could pick 100% incompetent presidents, if we tried.
The only thing consistent between all those administrations is the support staff, intellectual support staff and the K Street and "knowledge trust"; the Kissingers, etc... Those are the ones that gain something by positioning the US as it has been positioned....
Hence the Presidents all being puppets of TPTB and their planned destruction of the US.
There are 2 kinds of puppets. The kind that are controlled by strings from above and the kind controlled with a hand or stick up the ass. I wonder what kind 0 is.
The strings.
HIs ass is already occupied by Reggie.
Dead on. I'm 49 years old and I've been noticing the sequential decline my whole life. If one takes a wide view, one sees pretty much the same general policies progressing, regardless of who is nominally in charge.
Over the course of my life, one of the main consistent figures has been Zbigniew Brzezinski. He's from Galicia, now in Western Ukraine. Guess what his mania is? Russia, of course, and the pursuit of domination over Eurasia. Read the resumes of the main figures in US foreign policies over the past 50 years. They all have contacts with Brzezinski, and also Kissinger, but Henry's kind of old now and the current State Department is almost all Brzezinski acolytes.
And US foreign policy is almost straight out of Brzezinski's "The Grand Chessboard," including the view of not just Russia but also China and the E.U. as potential rivals that must be weakened, then broken up into smaller pieces, and then destroyed to allow US domination.
Reading "The Grand Chessboard" was a lot like when I read "The Turner Diaries" or tried to read the Marquis de Sade. So disgusting I almost couldn't do it. Actually, I couldn't read more than a few dozen pages of de Sade, and I actually tried for some reason. Something about trying to be open-minded, but there are limits.
Spot on swmnguy. It's a tattered playbook, but with so many years of black budget shennanigans and a propagandized public, it seems like the only way this beast will die is of it's own hubris OR a David Vs. Goliath-esque deus ex machina...
Swmnguy is absolutely correct! Brezinski has always been an important figure in neo-con circles. His visceral hatred towards "Russia" is positively evil. I wish that man "dead" to rid the earth of his diabolical fanaticism.