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Russia Claims ISIS Now On The Ropes As Fighters Desert After 60 Airstrikes In 72 Hours
One question that’s been asked repeatedly over the past thirteen months is why Washington has been unable to achieve the Pentagon’s stated goal of “degrading and defeating” ISIS despite the fact that the “battle” pits the most advanced air force on the planet against what amounts to a ragtag band of militants running around the desert in basketball shoes.
Those of a skeptical persuasion have been inclined to suggest that perhaps the US isn’t fully committed to the fight. Explanations for that suggestion range from the mainstream (the White House is loathe to get the US into another Mid-East war) to the “conspiratorial” (the CIA created ISIS and thus doesn’t want to destroy the group due to its value as a strategic asset).
The implication in all of this is that a modern army that was truly determined to destroy the group could likely do so in a matter of months if not weeks and so once Russia began flying sorties from Latakia, the world was anxious to see just how long the various rebel groups operating in Syria could hold up under bombardment by the Russian air force.
The answer, apparently, is “less than a week.”
On Saturday, the Russian Ministry of Defense said it has conducted 60 bombing runs in 72 hours, hitting more than 50 ISIS targets.
According to the ministry (Facebook page is here), Islamic State fighters are in a state of “panic” and more than 600 have deserted.
Here's what happens when the Russians locate a terrorist "command center":
According to The Kremlin, the structure shown in the video is (or, more appropriately, "was") "an ISIS hardened command centre near Raqqah." Su-34s hit it with concrete-piercing BETAB-500s setting off a series of explosions and fires that "completely destroyed the object."
Here's RT:
Surgical airstrikes by Russian fighter jets have knocked out a number of Islamic State installations in Syria, including the battle headquarters of a jihadist group near Raqqa, according to the Russian Defense Ministry.
“Over the past 24 hours, Sukhoi Su-34 and Su-24M fighter jets have performed 20 sorties and hit nine Islamic State installations,” Igor Konashenkov, Russia’s Defense Ministry spokesman, reported.
Konashenkov added that yesterday evening Russian aircraft went on six sorties, inflicting strikes on three terrorist installations.
“A bunker-busting BETAB-500 air bomb dropped from a Sukhoi Su-34 bomber near Raqqa has eliminated the command post of one of the terror groups, together with an underground storage facility for explosives and munitions,” the spokesman said.
Commenting on the video filmed by a Russian UAV monitoring the assault near Raqqa, Konashenkov noted, “a powerful explosion inside the bunker indicates it was also used for storing a large quantity of munitions.
“As you can see, a direct hit on the installation resulted in the detonation of explosives and multiple fires. It was completely demolished,” the spokesman said.
And here's the Russian Defense Ministry taking a page out of the US Postal Service's "neither rain, sleet, snow, nor hail" book on the way to serving notice that nothing is going to stop the Russian air force from exterminating Assad's enemies in Syria:
Twenty-four hours a day #UAV's are monitoring the situation in the ISIS activity areas. All the detected targets are effectively engaged day and night in any weather conditions.
Now obviously one must consider the source here, but Kremlin spin tactics aside, one cannot help but be amazed with the pace at which this is apparently unfolding. If any of the above is even close to accurate, it means that Russia is on schedule to declare victory over ISIS (and everyone else it looks like) in a matter of weeks, which would not only be extremely embarrassing for Washington, but would also effectively prove that the US has never truly embarked on an honest effort to rid Syria of the extremist groups the Western media claims are the scourge of humanity.
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Watch out for False Flags on US soil !!!
I am watching Russia Today news for the reports on middle east. They do short films on blowing the cover of some anti assad ngo's such as Syrian Observatory for Human rights which is run by one man from a two bed house in Coventry UK. He has not been in Syria since 2000. His website is quoted on a lot of mainstream news such as CNN and BBC. When asked where he gets his info from if he is not in Syria, he says from people he knows back in Syria...that's it.. One report on his English website blamed Russia for a particular target but on his Arabic website the exact same report blamed Assad.
The US 18 months and no oil well targets. Now PBS show picture of tanker trucks, oil wells being target. But those were Russian video targeting those oil depot. PBS should correct it show. Public television is now selling B S for the military. US 18 month no strikes on terrorist oil field held. Money for terrorist making them strong. Now US wants Russia to join their coalition, led by US of course. This will take oil well targets off the Russian radar. Remember Russia was invited by Syria, if we go in then we are the aggressor, war crimes is the result. Moderates terrorist and extreme terrorist no deference to Russia. Keep pounding them till their blue in the face.
Langley is pissed!
We should be very cautious as langley et.al. will take the liss out on us like an abusive alcholic would...
This is a Russian military defeat of US interests/allies. Let's recognize it for what it really is and also note that it took Russia only 2-3 weeks to accomplish what the US has been "trying" to do for almost a year.
The Bush/Clinton/Rubin/Soros/CIA/MIC corruption is clear for all to see.
The bumbling Obama...
Hello?... Uh... Hello D- uh hello Vladimir? Listen uh uh I can't hear too well. Do you suppose you could turn the music down just a little?... Oh-ho, that's much better... yeah... huh... yes... Fine, I can hear you now, Vladimir... Clear and plain and coming through fine... I'm coming through fine, too, eh?... Good, then... well, then, as you say, we're both coming through fine... Good... Well, it's good that you're fine and... and I'm fine... I agree with you, it's great to be fine... a-ha-ha-ha-ha... Now then, Vladimir, you know how we've always talked about the possibility of something going wrong with the Bomb... The bomb, Vladimir... The hydrogen bomb!... Well now, what happened is... ahm... one of our base commanders, he had a sort of... well, he went a little funny in the head... you know... just a little... funny. And, ah... he went and did a silly thing... Well, I'll tell you what he did. He ordered his planes... to attack your country... Ah... Well, let me finish, Vladimir... Let me finish, Vladimir... Well listen, how do you think I feel about it?... Can you imagine how I feel about it, Vladimir?... Why do you think I'm calling you? Just to say hello?... Of course I like to speak to you!... Of course I like to say hello!... Not now, but anytime, Vladimir. I'm just calling up to tell you something terrible has happened... It's a friendly call. Of course it's a friendly call... Listen, if it wasn't friendly... you probably wouldn't have even got it... They will not reach their targets for at least another hour... I am... I am positive, Vladimir... Listen, I've been all over this with your ambassador. It is not a trick... Well, I'll tell you. We'd like to give your air staff a complete run-down on the targets, the flight plans, and the defensive systems of the planes... Yes! I mean i-i-i-if we're unable to recall the planes, then... I'd say that, ah... well, ah... we're just gonna have to help you destroy them, Vladimir... I know they're our boys... All right, well listen now. Who should we call?... Who should we call, Vladimir? The... wha-whe, the People... you, sorry, you faded away there... The People's Central Air Defense Headquarters... Where is that, Vladimir?... In Omsk... Right... Yes... Oh, you'll call them first, will you?... Uh-huh... Listen, do you happen to have the phone number on you, Vladimir?... Whe-ah, what? I see, just ask for Omsk information... Ah-ah-eh-uhm-hm... I'm sorry, too, Vladimir... I'm very sorry... All right, you're sorrier than I am, but I am as sorry as well... I am as sorry as you are, Vladimir! Don't say that you're more sorry than I am, because I'm capable of being just as sorry as you are... So we're both sorry, all right?... All right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEB-OoUrNuk
I guess this means no more 2 mile long ISIS, toyota truck convoys flying black flags? Still a ways to go... need to see the Syrian/Iranian ground troops start moping up, then it's for real. Once that happens, the panic will really hit ISIS and the rest of the terrorists. That's when those dogs go back to their masters, the Saudi's, and ask some real tough questions. I would not want to be a member of the royal family when that happens.
Time for the US to crawl home, wimpering, with its tail between its legs. Karma is a bitch, man. But in this case, well deserved.
I wonder if the Russians took out any sound stages?...We need a gross of orange jumpsuits for wardrobe...Stat!
I thougt the US would use ISIS as a pretext to invade the ME and take the oil. Now what will we do?
Ha ha. ni hao bitchez!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1LWu81kWqE
China shows up and it's all over.
After Russia, China and Iran take over ISIS North in Syria, they need to keep going and take out ISIS South (aka Israel).
The one concern I have are Israel's 5 nuclear armed dolphin subs. I think some boating accidents are in order.
Putin knows how to get a war over QUICKLY !
The US needs to pay off the Puppet Masters.
A SICK world.
Russia need to take out Israel. Fuck we will print some cash for them.
How sad is it when a bunch of freedom loving, independent-minded, hard working Americans who cling to the idea that the Constitution of the United States needs to be the basis of our Republic, including Gold and Silver as real money, have to thank a dictator for exposing the vast corruption of their own government?
Your completely right, the psychopaths in the shadow government will not hesitate to detonate a nuke in say Chicago and use it as a pre-emptive to hit Iran before this closing pincer move can finish off ISIS. We are closer to a disaster than we can image.
They should all just chill for a while and take a short get away trip to their luxury resort in Mosul.
A few days working on the tan, sipping cool goat’s milk smoothies by the pool, and catching up on some overdue Koran reading would go a long way in calming the tensions build up by a sustained and merciless Russian assault.
http://news.sky.com/story/1478174/islamic-state-reopens-luxury-hotel-reports
Price of heroin just went up. CIA needs to railse more cash to buy ISIS more weapons. McCain says give our boys (ISIS) anti-aircraft missiles. Selling drugs to raise money for insurgents, where is Oliver North when you need him?
Putin will need ground troops. Will Iran supply them? Not so sure.
The truth hurts huh America? Our tax $ have been supporting ISIS & Al-CIA-DA for over a decade now. Putin has had enough and will tip the scales within weeks, laying the groundwork for a new dynamic in the ME.
the funny switch is that putin isnt a commie. he may be a dictator but he isnt a commie in the old 1940/50 mode. yet obama is a commie. putin wants to succeed. obama wants to tell everyone he is the big boss regardless of his success or failure. we live in a fucked up world right now....
Obama is a nihilist. Simple.
> the funny switch is that putin isnt a commie.
Bro, Russians have never been commies, but victims of the Jewish communists.
If you want to know about communits, think of on of the "founding fathers" of the "Russian" (read Jewish) Revolution - Leo Trotsky and his Jewish thugs from the Jew York City responsible for genocide of 60 million ethnic Russians and other slavic people. Another good example is Karl Marx along with his homosexual partner Friedrich Engels -- both were German Jews and the original commies.
The truth is, there are more [Jewish] communists in USSA then there were in USSR.
In 1917, the Allies were in distress and desperately needed American aid, but all their efforts to bring the United States into the war on their side had failed. It was then that the English commenced secret negotiations with the American Zionists. The latter proposed a deal: "If you will promise to hand over Palestine to us if you are victorious, we will guarantee to bring America into the war on your side." If America was brought into the war, it seemed almost certain that Germany would be unable to resist the strength of the resulting coalition.
The deal was concluded, and the American Zionists fulfilled their part of the bargain, and brought the USA into the war, and by the celebrated Balfour Declaration, the British Government made Palestine into a national home for the Jews.
Up to this moment, everything seemed satisfactory. Both sides had fulfilled their engagements. However, England, in her distress, had not foreseen the consequences of this decision. The Arabs had not been consulted in the course of these negotiations, and it soon became apparent that while one party in the British Government was promising Palestine to the Jews, another branch of the same Government was promising the same land to the Arabs through the intermediary action of Lawrence of Arabia.
These two pledges were manifestly inconsistent, and if England on the one hand was obliged to accommodate the Jews, on the other she had important interests of her own in the Arab countries of the Near East. The Jews had one capital advantage. They were on the spot in both London and New York, whereas the Arabs were a long way away from the centre of action.
At first the British Government played the Jewish card to the full, and endeavoured to maintain a precarious balance between the Jews and the Arabs. At the time of the Balfour Declaration the Jews had promised that they would not infringe the rights of the Arab population, but the whole world knew that it was an impossible undertaking, and one which the Jews had no intention whatever of respecting.
Thus, to start with the British Government was in favour of establishing a Jewish community which would be built up by immigration, but confrontations with the Arabs rapidly became aggravated. Hitler's rise to power, and his anti-Jewish position, brought matters to boiling point. The British tried to calm the Jews, and cut down on the immigration of international Jews to Palestine. But how is one to reason with the Jews when they are in the grip of their messianic fervour? The influx of Jewish aliens drove the Arabs to flight from a country which they could legitimately consider as their own, since they had lived there for centuries, and they piled into refugee camps in which they have since eked out a miserable and hopeless existence. Massacres, such as at Deir Yassin, provoked a general exodus, and hundreds of thousands more fled to these camps. The Arab States, for their part, did nothing to ameliorate the condition of these unfortunate refugees, and consequently the situation became more and more explosive for the English, who were confronted with a Jewish rebellion armed and supported by secret organizations such as the Irgoun and the Stern gang. Palestine was virtually in a state of war with the British.
It was under these conditions that the Anglo-American Zionists published a threatening warning to the British Government by means of the Landman document. Addressing the British Government as if they were speaking to an equal, they said in effect:
"You forget that you did not give us Palestine as an unsolicited gift (Balfour Declaration). It was handed over as the result of a secret bargain concluded between ourselves. We have scrupulously observed our part in bringing America into the war on your side. We call on you to fulfil your obligations in turn. You are aware of our power in the United States: take care that you do not attract the hostility of Israel, otherwise you will come up against grave international difficulties."
http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Others/Others-Doc-Jews/+Doc-Jews-Nationa...
SuperRay....who's the dictator? Mr. Putin was elected by the vast majority of Russians in what on lookers describe as a fair election and currently enjoys an 89% approval rating. The only dictators I see is the cabal of corporate bum boys elected to Washiungton. BTW the American Constitution was suspended and remains so from the time (9/11) that Cheney invoked the Continuity of Government Act until today, being renewed by the executive every six months. This allows the FISA court to replace SCOTUS not that it matters all that much except FISA operates out of public sight.
BTW the American Constitution was suspended and remains so from the time (9/11) that Cheney invoked the Continuity of Government Act until today, being renewed by the executive every six months.
Ummm...it goes back a lot farther than that. Sen. Frank Church's special committee on emergency powers put out a report in 1973 with a forward that said we had been living under emergency decree since 1933 and in fact were under four emergency powers at the time his senate committee reported it. From the report's Foreward:
"Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency. In fact, there are now in effect four presidentially-proclaimed states of national emergency: In addition to the national emergency declared by President Roosevelt in 1933, there are also the national emergency proclaimed by President Truman on December 16, 1950, during the Korean conflict, and the states of national emergency declared by President Nixon on March 23, 1970, and August 15, 1971.
These proclamations give force to 470 provisions of Federal law. These hundreds of statutes delegate to the President extraordinary powers, ordinarily exercised by the Congress, which affect the lives of American citizens in a host of all-encompassing manners. This vast range of powers, taken together, confer enough authority to rule the country without reference to normal Constitutional processes."
We have grown up under emergency powers...but they hate us for our freedom. Riiiiight...
All the best, Vlad. Kick 'em in the balls. Real Americans are cheering you on.
It's not only thinking Americans who are cheering, You forget their is a Real World population that far outnumbers the US who have been servants to the US military. For so long, having been treated as such, they cheer in low tones and plot for the Achilles tendon. If it breaks it will be over in days and the press, to save their souls will call out in fear and say .... Who could have seen this coming. Hang them anyway.
You reading me Langley, I warned you 40 years ago
You mention the constituition... You might want to take a look at the CONstituitional CONvention/14th ammendment scams.
http://www.thetruthaboutthelaw.com/the-peoples-case-for-what-happened-at...
http://www.thetruthaboutthelaw.com/its-time-to-tell-the-truth-the-14th-a...
How sad is it when a bunch of freedom loving, independent-minded, hard working Americans who cling to the idea that the Constitution of the United States needs to be the basis of our Republic, including Gold and Silver as real money, have to thank a dictator for exposing the vast corruption of their own government?
Amen to that. I was in nukes in the Air Force - if you'd told me at that time that I'd someday be cheering on a Russian, I'd have laughed at how batshit crazy you were talkin'..... sigh. How insanely FAR our "leadership" has fallen (not that it's an accident) ....
ISIS has nothing on the Chechen insurgency, and Russia rolled them.
The only explanation for why ISIS even exists is what anyone who cared to look knew already: that the West had no interest in destroying them.
The Saudi, Langley and Mossad backed Chechen insurgency.
Yeah. That one.
It was legitimitely nasty and right on Russia's doorstep too. But look at Chechnya now. It's prosperous and the Chechen muslims love the Kremlin.
As soon as Assad was out they would of gave ISIS a little corner of Iraq in exchange for minding their own business and the pipeline construction would of started (with slave labor of course). They did not anticipate this turn of events because once Iran squeezes them into a little box before Russia bombs them into oblivion their only option will be to learn the Torah.. Of course the other option is to head for Germany for selfies...
The largest Mosque in Europe was just inaugurated in Moscow recently....beautiful building in the heart of Moscow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqQcZwf-i4A
Russia is the new middle east manager.
Makes sense due to their location and our actions.
Beautiful Mosque.
fuck you, cunt.
Not for long and you still think Russians are stupid. They suffered for so long they never want it to happen again
isis are not tough. they are a bunch of twisted fucks but they are not strong tough people. it is easy to kill someone that is knealling down before you tied up. isis will run home to mommie when the real shit hits....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ws2En8SUEgc&html5=1
Supercrappy.
These deveolpments do seem to show the uSA never targeted iSIS, they were using them as a proxy to go after assad.
MIC having a bad time...
Here's proof of the absolute journalism FAIL: http://www.cnn.com/
Look at CNN's site. Try to find even one story about Russia cleaning house after the U.S. government's colossal ongoing war of terror failure in Syria.
Nothing? Yeah... I thought so. CNN losers. How about: http://www.nytimes.com/
Uh... one single story about Obama vs. Clinton's (failed) Syrian strategy with a remark about Russia and 'quagmire'.
Pleny of gays and guns stories on both sites, but nothing about a failed U.S.-sponsored genocidal coup that has killed 250,000 Syrians that Russia now has to fix.
Let me get this straight, while the Russians are decimating ISIS, the US is bombing hospitals and killing doctors in Afghanistan. Got it!
cnn self-styles itself as a "news" web site but it's 99% propaganda marketing. I learned that when watching the Tibet riots in China on cnn and they showed pictures of what they called were Chinese soldiers beating up Tibetans when in fact the pictures were of nepalese police beating demonstrators in Nepal! cnn forgot to airbrush the Nepalese police emblems off their uniforms!
cnn and DW blamed the Chinese for attacking Tibetans for no reason when several Australian tourists there filmed the real events that showed Tibetans wilding thru streets beating to death innocent Han Chinese pedestrians.
I have no horse in that race but was aghast at these news agnecies' --cnn and DW -- outrageous lies. They both later apologized on page 54 of their web sites way in the back where few saw they had lied. Taught me they are both simply arms of the gubmint spin machine.
It's very hard to find facts these days despite the internet.
Cue poison gas attack.
In World Trade Center One, if they follow the 9/11 script.
PTI,
You can add National Propaganda Radio...to the the list of untrustworthy news sources....they tow the government POV as well as anyone of the chosenite controlled MSM news outlets....
>>>>cnn and DW blamed the Chinese for attacking Tibetans for no reason when several Australian tourists there filmed the real events that showed Tibetans wilding thru streets beating to death innocent Han Chinese pedestrians.
Nothing innocent about them. These are invaders and Tibetans have every right to kill them,
Your other points might be valid, but the conclusion is utter bullshit.
Agreed. Just as every Westerner should view every barbarian in their homelands. No Rights without sovereign territory peoples.
CheapBastard:
Great link about the Dalai Lama and Tibet (from a fellow ZHer).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBH0ywUUx5k
Informative video. Thanks.
That Stefan is horribly boring.
Yes but they were Moslem and so.... Tough tittes
No, I don't think you've got this straight yet
Some "embedded asset" in the Afghan military working for who knows who conned the U.S. into a "friendly fire" disaster.
Recent study shows dumbass Americans read headlines only.
I am so furious at them, their unwillingness to face reality has
allowed these bastards to bankrupt the country and put us on a collision course.
And still these uninformed morons vote!
and continue to watch network tv news and read the ny times and the washington post for news of the world around them.
Reading and understanding more then the headlines takes an IQ above 85.
Therein lies the problem.
Yea, but 85 is the new 100.
Can't fight the Bell Curve.
The peasants of the world have never had, and never will have an impact on history. Stop looking to them for leadership. You are the informed minority. The Minutemen were made up of men like you. Stop looking at the peasants for the answer - start looking at yourself.
American proxy invasion of Syria is a disease.
And the Russian Air Force is the cure.
and nothing @ the San Francisco site SFGATE.com - However, check this out - of the many stories about the Oregon "event" Thursday @ Umpqua - http://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/television/article/Train-hero-missed...
One of the Euro Train "Heroes" of the summer just happens to be involved with this Oregon college, but postponed his enrollment this semester so he could be in LA for Dancing With The Stars ! - Another article chides the Oregon sheriff for posting a "conspiracy" video about the Sandy Hoax event ... another article there talks about the 30 yr. old Army Vet who tackled the shooter. We're now told that the "shooter" committed suicide.
thank you for helping connect the dots....it seems the sheriff there made himself s target...but the organizers of these shootings are getting a little cocky and thus sloppy. this whole charade will come crashing down eventually.
Putin is going to find that ISIS simply dissolves into the desert only to reemerge when the Russians have gone home.
How many times did the Russians say the Afghans were on the ropes?
"I thought the US would use ISIS as a pretext to invade the ME and take the oil. Now what will we do?"
The first time is an invasion. The next 12 is called piling on in football.
Why are all the isis wearing Air-Jordans?
wtf?!
They hate us for our over priced made by Chinese children sneakers, of course.
they probably do.
but addressing the earlier comparisons of russia in syria to the ussr in afghanistan, the differences are fairly striking.
first, russia is there at the request of a truly indigenous government that long precedes russia's intervention.
second, afghanistan has a much larger territory with far more varied geography much more conducive to guerilla warfare and concealment generally.
third, pakistan was a refuge that i don't believe israel, turkey, lebanon, jordan or iraq will be.
fourth, the world saw the ussr as invading afghanistan while much of it sees russia as helping a country, syria, attacked by the hated world hegemon, the u.s., source of endless death, destruction and overpriced sneakers (and dollars generally).
This is a three nation front, China, Russian and Iran to hit them from the east. Their only escape will be to learn the Torah..
Ask Kerry. He probably provided them
They are Nike Air-Jihadi Decapitators (TM).
You guys crack me up!
But the sneakers are strangely a give-away.
Wow, their sneakers are not even dirty. Their clothes look super clean also, as if just dry cleaned.
Plus, they're wearing all black for camouflage but glow-in-the-dark pure bright white sneakers?!
They look like they just walked out of the frat house joking slapping each other on the back ... crazy! Are these fellows isis or Lambda Chi ? The fourth one from the left looks like a guy I dated at SUNY.
Clothing with disparate intensive meaning is indicative of schizophrenia.
Half the guys in ISIS probably are Lambda Chi! Just who the hell is under those towels anyway - probably as Arabic as Lawrence was!
Air-Dropped for full authenticity along with the MRE's
They need to remove the "Foot Locker" tags ... be moar "authentic" that way for cnn.
ISIS wears white Air-Jordans for the same reason they drive white Toyota pick-up trucks and use satcom radios, so they don't get targetted by ZATO. Maybe it will show up at A/N surplus stores in a few years.
Only if they have used some memorable meme, like "Mission accomplished!" it would be much easier to recall...
Afgans are a little different, quite a bit really... Fucking Foreign History should be taught in US schools.
Have any one.. Ferris, anyone read a Winston Churchill report as a correspondent from the front line.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/taliban/tribal/churchill.html
your so wearisome. Learn study and reflect in history so it Fucking does not happen again. Gezzzz Louise
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Let's see, that will be on the 12th of Never.
- Ned
Amen. Syria is Russia's long ally, Putin has shown remarkable restraint.
What is happening there now is extremely dangerous because if Russia does significantly degrade Isis, and start talking about how easy it has been, the US game will be exposed.
One thing is certain: This is good for Trump. If the situation continues as is, it is good for Trump. If Rubio's view (destroy Assad and create a power vacuum) succeeds, it's good for Trump. If we slink home, as we should, it is good for Trump. As usual, the winner is Trump. Get used to it. If you are one that thinks he's disqualified for office because of his mouth and temperment, I'm sorry about your childhood.
Russia is not Syria's long ally. If Russia was then this would have happened 2 years ago. The goals of Putin are not known at this time.
There is no slinking home due to just Syria. Watch for things such as forces of the west to be moved back into Iraq and other places.
While 600 may have deserted (and I suspect many have) they may have just faded from view. And if they deserted either they are members of the smaller numbers of Syrian citizens who became rebels or they have a long walk back home (while hoping not to be rounded up by their former companions and shot).
Trump? What is he really. I do not know although I hope he is as he seems. But he could just be another "hope and change" puppet that has been given a script by those who created Obama. Would that not be the best play for them at this point. Back to the repubs. with an "outsider" who they secretly control. Did Trump get to where he is without support the zionist? I do not know myself.
Putin - Why did you not send a couple months doing these air strikes TWO YEARS AGO????? Thinks of all the lives saved, all the towns not destroyed. Still, credit for doing it at all, now secure the northern border and maybe more importantly the southern border and sheild Hezbollah from retalitory strikes.
" Did Trump get to where he is without support the zionist? I do not know myself."
"Putin - Why did you not send a couple months doing these air strikes TWO YEARS AGO????? Thinks of all the lives saved, all the towns not destroyed. Still, credit for doing it at all, now secure the northern border and maybe more importantly the southern border and sheild Hezbollah from retalitory strikes."
That can easily be determined with a few savvy minutes of research on the net. This post and your name are certainly self reinforcing are they not? With your admitted level of ignorance you then second guess and criticise the only counterbalance to US/Zio chaos creation in the ME? You blame Putin for all the towns destroyed and lives lost rather than the creator and suppliers of these barbaric beasts Isil, et al?
You are definitely a blankone.
A few savy minutes of research on the internet will show that Russia did not directly support Assad at all. It will show that Putin made Assad give up his chemical weapons and then did not supply protection for Syria. It will show that Russia did allow the destruction of Syria to continue for years, the people murdered or forced to flee, that Putin refused to honor a fully signed contract with Syria to supply the S-300 system since 2007 which in tern allowed the enemies of Syris to fly bombs into Syria and drop them on their army, that Putin watched as Syria exhausted it's financial reserves along with it's men in fighting while handcuffed.
Makes you wonder why Putin did not support Syria until now. While needed is it self serving? Will Russia take western Syria for Russia? (Allowing Syria to exhaust itself makes it much easier.) The reasons and purpose are yet to be shown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=modfq47onwU
What it makes me wonder is why the State Dept. wastes tax money on transparent knucklemouths like you.
I was thinking 2 days after the Earth goes hurtling into the Sun.
I thought in that cult only the girls dressed like that . Pussies
That is part of their schtick. It is a double costume.
If they get cornered, they kick off their shoes and burn them. Then they try to slink away looking like niq-kie-hijab-wearing women.
Yes, but the difference here is that Assad isn't going home, he's already there.
If the Russians are right then this is playing out like the start of the Afghan war, the US bombed the Taliban out while they were trying to fight the Northern Alliance, the Taliban fled.
The Afghan war could have been won there and then, but instead we had to put boots on the ground and secure tribal areas that could not be held, as well as spreading western values and all the rest of it.
It is interesting seeing the difference with the Russian air force though, lots of thermobaric bombs and other big hitting stuff, I wonder if a couple of decades of precision munition development forced on us by media war has resulted in a airforce that is far less effective then it aught to be.
The Russian military is not subject to the whims of an equivalent of the US MIC, whose prime objective is profit, not effective national defense. "Cheap and good enough" wins out over "over-expensive and over-kill" in real wars.
exactly.. the only battle the MIC fights is to keep their share of the budget flowing and increasing no matter how much debt the country goes in.. the War on Terror was constructed to replace the void of budget sucking after the end of the Cold War dried that tit up.
Anyone calculate what this is costing usa taxpayers in terms of money?
If you have to ask, you can't afford it.
Fiat? Who cares since that crap is fiction anyways?!
Money? Nothing - since most Americans don't own real money, only fiat.
What is it costing them? Their freedom, their lives, their livelihoods, their ability to afford housing and to raise a family, their culture, their health, their mental stability...
I think the list is actually endless, but let's settle for their entire existance, and those of their children (if they have them), for all time to come.
That about sums it up.
Double post
I was thinking the same. Their only strategy for survival is to dissipate into surrounding cities and wait it out. Maybe there's a reason they can't or won't do that though.
Because they have raped and pillaged all of the surrounding cities? The locals have all headed to europe, so there is no population left to hide within.
I can't argue with ISIS dissolution happening in record time. Putin has said on the record that ISIS and all the Syrian opposition are 90% mercenaries. They will simply go home and wait for the next paying gig. The pay will have to be a lot higher if Russia is involved.
However, your focus on Putin, ignores 2 things:
1. The speed with which Russia can operate, they can be back in a flash
2. The fact that Iranian troops are completing the operation on the ground.
Putin has learned from NATO in Europe, so there will be a small sustainable presense left behind when the shooting stops,
He needs to go all the way, they are hiding now in Tel Aviv.
Boom goes the dynamite.
I spit my coffee! Well done.
*referring to the hacked Mcain video? http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/07/11/staged-isis-beheading-video-hack...
How dumb one has to be in order to fully dress himself in black, in the middle of a desert, where the sun is shining at least 10 hours a day and the temperature reaches in the 80s on a daily basis ? Oh well, at least they have white sneakers...
The fully covered individuals in that photo, including gloves, is to hide the fact that they are Caucasian.
There are actually a few pics on the net showing this.
That's true. Many of them actually have their college T-shirts under the black clothes; U of Mass ... Amhurst ... etc.
No, not the Minutemen!
fuck you, cunt.
That would be consistent with them wearing white and clean running shoes.
"Country Club Mercenaries"
Exactly what I thought. Camo black sheets but "Here-I-Am-Shoot-Me" bright white sneakers?!
I have a son doing relief work in Khurdistan and he tells me a lot of the dead Isis are either Turks or Pakistanis.
Makes total sense.
Three letters
J O B S
Reports out of Europe say significant numbers of ""refugees""are Paks. Only 1 in 4 are Syrian. So that would support re your son, particularly if these mercs ..which I have no doubt..are US proxies. Paks will do anything to get out. Wonder how many are Saudis..they do not like getting dirty, and would rather pay someone to do their dirt work.
All shot on the backlot at paramount in Burbank, CA by Rita Katz and Dreamworks, Paramount or Disney.
ISIS is so fake. There are real mercs out there but those convoy pictures, beheadings and other crap is all fake. The cllotes are too good and neat, lighting, faces covere.d
Freddie:
Is this what the muslims do with female genital mutilation? I mean after the mess gets healed?
- Ned
Paramount studios are on Melrose Ave in West Hollywood. Warner Bros. is in Burbank. Just sayin'
with forest lawn right behind, perfect resting place for the current admin.
From the first picture I saw of these pukes I thought they were phony. I bet there are some very white faces under some of those hoods, at least there were in the early days. Always masked, they were, in spite of being in their territory and 120 degrees. If you want a disguise, a black gimp suit isn't the answer. That makes you an easy target for munitions and unwanted advances.
Black cotton clothing in the desert draws the sweat from your body quicker and evaporates it quicker thereby making you cooler than if you were wearing white.
Black leather in the desert acts like a sun barrier (like being in the shade) and keeps you from getting windburn from the hot desert on a bike, open the vents on your jacket properly and the heated air is flushed out keeping you cooler.
Look it up if you don't believe me. I spent a lot of time in the desert.
Nice try, Hasbro
Even those who haven't spent much time in desert climes, as I have, must see the total BS in your statement.
Sure, walk around in black leather in 100 degree heat and feel how cool it is!
You pathetic fucks are increasingly unable to see how ridiculous you appear to an awakening world.
the koran calls for all jihadists to wear their heads covered, you know like in the old testament. It's even in a same passage as the one about women. And they've been in the desert for thousands of years, it's not like they don't know how to dress.
Yep, it is a "dry heat" ;-)
I have two cars in the family, one black and one white, guess which one I like to climb into in the summer and which one leaves me with third degree burns on my buttocks...
WTF, where? I must have missed something. Oh, and that explains why they also cover their... faces?
It worked for Mad Max. ;-)
Peak Finance, oughta try black leathers on a Harley on the crowded I5, in July in Orange County, splitting lanes at ten mph. He can come back, after a few days of recovering from heat exhaustion and tell us how cool it was.
In actuality, it's remarkable how MEners wear black. I'm still researching this phenomena. The word is these black garments have wool in them, but somehow the fabric itself keeps out the heat to a remarkable degree. Perhaps there's something to how the garments are never tight fitting, but flow easily.
Prolly has something to do with wearing them at night when observers can eat during certain periods. Then for the fu value, they wear them in the day for agitprop purposes.
- Ned
@ The Phantom: Absoluetly god***n right..
House of Saud = inbred bastard sons of Isn'treal and the US.
Murderous, tyrannical, hypocritical. If they ain't raping the help in their Beverly Hills mansions, they're blowing up the World Trade Center buildings. If they ain't bombing Yemeni weddings, they're building madrassas around the world spreading Sunni Wahhabi terrorism.
The House of Saud...what's not to love?!?
Tesla unveiled its gull wing SUV yesterday.
I'm really NOT a fan of Putin, but I gotta give grudging respect here. If this campaign turns out to be as successful as it appears to be, Putin will really gain my admiration. Fuck it, so will Iran if they can kick the CIA scumfucks out of Syria, or better yet kill all those lowlife pricks.
They look so fake and so photoshopped, just the fighters themselves.
I don't think they are real....lmao
Putin:
"I killed your fake terrorists"
Obama "Well I killed fake OBL"
That was funny.
LOL
Obama we also paid them with fake money.
I wanna play O in a poker game. "Don't call my bluff"
I think those ISIS onvoys were shot in the California desert not far from Paramount's back lot where they filmed Rita Katz greenscreen beheading videos.
You can download the phony ISIS video shoot here. Supposedly hacked off a McCain assistant's cell phone.
http://82.221.129.208/ah2index.html
phantom, the fun has just begun with mopping up. Libya is on the list and Saudi Arabia will be to, the Sauds anyway, Ergodan will have to go also if Russia doesn't want to get tied down again like in Afghanistan. Can't say anyone I know is unhappy about the CIA's head choppers getting vapourized by the Russians....
GOLD HAD A FLASH RALLEY, SATURDAY, OCTOBER 3, 2015, so says the KITCO spot chart.
We don't take no stinkin' FRNs.
--Your local ME Tribal Militias
That's when those dogs go back to their masters, the Saudi's,
Unfortunately, as ZH noted a few days back, there is some background turmoil in the House of Saud, as everyone's jockeying for position when feeble Faisal kicks the bucket. No one knows who's in charge.
That's why Obama is so confused.. he's not sure who to take orders from.
That's when those dogs go back to their masters, the Saudi's,
Unfortunately, as ZH noted a few days back, there is some background turmoil in the House of Saud, as everyone's jockeying for position when feeble Faisal kicks the bucket. No one knows who's in charge.
That's why Obama is so confused.. he's not sure who to take orders from.
It's great to be fine
Another keeper: you can't fight in here - this is the war room!
Col Bat Guana: "You're gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola company!"
Col Bat Guano: "You're gonna have to answer to the Coca-Cola company!"
oh, how I love that film. The genius of Kubrick and Sellers, a match made in heaven. The exquisite merger of irony, reality and the darkest humor. I've watched it countless times and it never grows old. A movie for the ages.
i thought it interesting as well that general's hangup with flouridation in the water. in the movie it's like a bad joke, but in 'real life' it may have some basis in 'fact'... agreed that it's a great film in any event...
something about a person's ability to note the significance of lowered intelligence after being subjected to drinking fluoridated water supplies ... especially throughout one's youth ...