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Russia Claims ISIS Now On The Ropes As Fighters Desert After 60 Airstrikes In 72 Hours
One question that’s been asked repeatedly over the past thirteen months is why Washington has been unable to achieve the Pentagon’s stated goal of “degrading and defeating” ISIS despite the fact that the “battle” pits the most advanced air force on the planet against what amounts to a ragtag band of militants running around the desert in basketball shoes.

Those of a skeptical persuasion have been inclined to suggest that perhaps the US isn’t fully committed to the fight. Explanations for that suggestion range from the mainstream (the White House is loathe to get the US into another Mid-East war) to the “conspiratorial” (the CIA created ISIS and thus doesn’t want to destroy the group due to its value as a strategic asset).
The implication in all of this is that a modern army that was truly determined to destroy the group could likely do so in a matter of months if not weeks and so once Russia began flying sorties from Latakia, the world was anxious to see just how long the various rebel groups operating in Syria could hold up under bombardment by the Russian air force.
The answer, apparently, is “less than a week.”
On Saturday, the Russian Ministry of Defense said it has conducted 60 bombing runs in 72 hours, hitting more than 50 ISIS targets.
According to the ministry (Facebook page is here), Islamic State fighters are in a state of “panic” and more than 600 have deserted.
Here's what happens when the Russians locate a terrorist "command center":
According to The Kremlin, the structure shown in the video is (or, more appropriately, "was") "an ISIS hardened command centre near Raqqah." Su-34s hit it with concrete-piercing BETAB-500s setting off a series of explosions and fires that "completely destroyed the object."
Here's RT:
Surgical airstrikes by Russian fighter jets have knocked out a number of Islamic State installations in Syria, including the battle headquarters of a jihadist group near Raqqa, according to the Russian Defense Ministry.
“Over the past 24 hours, Sukhoi Su-34 and Su-24M fighter jets have performed 20 sorties and hit nine Islamic State installations,” Igor Konashenkov, Russia’s Defense Ministry spokesman, reported.
Konashenkov added that yesterday evening Russian aircraft went on six sorties, inflicting strikes on three terrorist installations.
“A bunker-busting BETAB-500 air bomb dropped from a Sukhoi Su-34 bomber near Raqqa has eliminated the command post of one of the terror groups, together with an underground storage facility for explosives and munitions,” the spokesman said.
Commenting on the video filmed by a Russian UAV monitoring the assault near Raqqa, Konashenkov noted, “a powerful explosion inside the bunker indicates it was also used for storing a large quantity of munitions.
“As you can see, a direct hit on the installation resulted in the detonation of explosives and multiple fires. It was completely demolished,” the spokesman said.
And here's the Russian Defense Ministry taking a page out of the US Postal Service's "neither rain, sleet, snow, nor hail" book on the way to serving notice that nothing is going to stop the Russian air force from exterminating Assad's enemies in Syria:
Twenty-four hours a day #UAV's are monitoring the situation in the ISIS activity areas. All the detected targets are effectively engaged day and night in any weather conditions.
Now obviously one must consider the source here, but Kremlin spin tactics aside, one cannot help but be amazed with the pace at which this is apparently unfolding. If any of the above is even close to accurate, it means that Russia is on schedule to declare victory over ISIS (and everyone else it looks like) in a matter of weeks, which would not only be extremely embarrassing for Washington, but would also effectively prove that the US has never truly embarked on an honest effort to rid Syria of the extremist groups the Western media claims are the scourge of humanity.
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hey baby - I was Down when we be cuttin' off heads and stuff - - -
but this be Real Shit!
it be time to head back to mamma in Dumdf**kistan.
(or maybe Germany to get a job drivin' taxi)
millenials better put a coat on. its getting drafty in here.
The so called "War on Terror" (WOT) is a MIC racket and extortion. Didn't someone in USG once say that WOT would take something like 50 years to succeed? Now, here comes Vlad...
War OF terror. Never heard of anyone saying ''Look at that cute cruise missile coming to blow me away''.
50 years? Sure if you are a member of the MIC. Ka Ching.
So you invade Iraq and kill people for kicks and then expect them to give you hugs and kisses when their whole family is wiped out?
You expect them to say ''Well, thanks America for liberating us from our family'' How can we ever repay you.
Arabs are like KIKES in that respect. They NEVER forgive or forget and if it takes a 100 years they will get revenge.
Your observation, while accurate, could do without the racism, you c¥#t
Over a hundred US GI's commited suicide in the Month of May
Why would that be? Were they cornholed by their bunk mates? (legal now)
I know you have a good point to contributes to this forum. And some of the trolls already operated here. Let's not making their strategy a winning.
I'm perfectly sure you're already taught these kind psyops when you're in service.
Sorry, i'm replying through your comment.
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How to spot troll, and knows their tactics.
http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
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One of the tactics? Fishing for your emotion. And when you falls for this tactics? They wins. Cause they would present you as a bitter anger human, that no people should pay attention to your arguments.
Don't fall to their trap..
how does Soros want to divide these 600, plus probably 6,000 more, between the us, and eu. 50/50, doesn't matter, full entitlements, and maybe some severance pay also,
or maybe nuland, and Saudi Arabia already have employment lined up for them in Yemen.
Quite a load of bullcrap going on there. And they are still using unguided bombs. I slowed down the video and there are three bomb impacts. One falls close but misses by about 50 m, a second fell directly on a farm building, and the third bomb missed by about 200 meters, and hit another malevolent looking empty paddock.
There were zero secondary explosions shown in the video, none whatsoever, and only the primary detonations of three bombs is shown. The small fire shown was a zoomed-in IR image, of the burning farm building materials.
This is the bomb type they claim to have used, which is a rocket-assisted iron dumb-bomb, with a thickened nose casing. Which is of course a non-precision weapon. And maybe that was the bomb that they used too, but I take nothing for granted given the level of hyperbolic bullshit present in the Russian assertion of bunker and secondary explosions - which just aren't seen or happening in the video.
Looks like a farm home and associated out structures getting hit by weapons that appear to be just surface impact detonating iron bombs. So no clear indications a hardened penetrator was used.
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As for pootie's little giggle and denial routine that's what we used to call, "bunging it on". The reporter clearly thought so too.
Who gives a flying fuck what bombs they use.
Are you one of those fucktard grunts who invaded Iraq?
Sound a like a retarded asswipe.
haha ... apparently the Russians did as they specified what it was. lol
Gibberish from a fucktard. Hope a Russian nuke takes you out in the future. I will shit on your terrorist loving grave.
ahhaha ... is that it?! ... that's what you've got? .... hahahaha! :D
Only shit for brains retards use the term ''Pootie''
Just take a hike you goddam americunt retard.
Oh come on pootie is a term of endearment ... we loves the pootie ... pootie this, and pootie that ... three cheers for pootie! :D
The pootie is my nigga! ... the nigga you're having when you can't get a real one ... USA has a genuine golfing nig-nog ... but what the pootie lacks in skin and golf ... the pootie makes up for in girlie-man giggles!
Hey fucktard, its nothing like the load of total bullshit your fucking media and govt feeds gullible shitheads like YOU.
no, no, no, honey-bunch, the topic right now is these particular videos, focus little bumcake! :D
NO its not, the topic is about fucktards like you and MESSAGE, Mr.Poofter Shirtlifter.
Well I can see how the post and pootie vids is referencing fucktards, so you do have a point there. +1 :D
hmm...the US piddles around there for how many years, and Putin cleans it up in a month!
(while enjoying a big bowl of popcorn)
Oh yeah ... I totally believe that too ... blessed is the great and wondrous pootie! ... his popcorn doth runeth over!
btw, the USAF deployed CSAR forces to Turkey yesterday ... so comrade pootie is getting in a claim of pre-emptive faux 'victory' ... for what is about to occur ...
LOL! Are they (usaf) gonna fuck up like they did earlier today? Better close all the Turkish hospitals too.
Well you are of course going off topic. But the attack in Afghanistan was directed on to the target by Afghan ground forces engaging them in a hospital, who would have known the fight was in a hospital and the hospital was the target. So why did they do that? Have you considered the possibility that the Taliban went into the hospital because the hospital and its staff and patients were the targets? i.e. the hospitals have been supporting govt forces in the current on-going fight?
yeah ... that's what I thought ... maybe gullible dupe drone repeating Russian propaganda lines is more your style.
You truly post some pathetic bilge. Earlier you posted a quote from the American installed puppet president of Afghanistan interviewed by the Qatari oil pipeline company TV station Al Jazeera saying it was Talibanees fault that US bombed a hospital. Sit in the corner for 15 mins with your dunces cap on, and then post something when you have something sensible to say.
Oh, right ... so ... like ... no input at all from you then dumbshit? lol!
But keep the subject changing and obfuscations coming. I had a tv on, a report came on, it just happened to be an AJ feed, and it showed a govt official guy answering questions about what had just occurred.
Naughty naughty me! I am responsible for alls of it! lol :D
are you expert? may be confusing what is not actual aim point...
using old ordnance is working in real...best results
little bird (airforce) tells much better and near no pay as stuff near/at expire
dates and using saves disposal time, expense.
Can your country do that and save taxpayer?
haha ... great excuse ... well not really ... totally predictable really ... I was waiting for one of the trolls to trot out that chestnut. Thanks :D
I did not look that video, but most of comments similar by the uninformed is
this mistake so I will try make clearer for those want to learn...here:
crosshairs on released video is not aiming mark, but focus point of camera uav for assess damage
...not the actual image from bomber which is fast mover...
I knew that about the video frame marker which is why I never at any point mentioned the frame of the video feed, did I? Not this time and not with the prior video either. I commented in both cases solely about the content and obvious use of iron bombs, and the characteristic missing of targets that using them produces.
And let's not forget the much higher collateral damage levels of unguided bombs, and the need to therefore use much larger more damaging bombs to get viable effects with lower precision levels.
Let's see what occurs when these jets try that sort of weapon drop in a dense urban setting rather than a rural farm with open fields to soak up the frags and weapon under and overshoot. Then we'll see some major collateral damage taking place.
Which is why they're now avoiding it, as they know it will be a slaughter. ;-)
So they are then either forced to use smaller much more expensive and newer precision-guided weapons, or they must continue to call mere farm houses central ISIS nerve-centers and weapons stores.
And I'm now 100% certain there was no weapons bunker store under that latest attack video, as there were zero secondaries, as was merely claimed (lied about) and not even small-ish ones.
So the pootie's creative spin department was busy making up a wall of bullshit to go with that video's release.
Putin has the advantage of being an experienced war criminal. If 8000 Ukranians and 300 commercial airline passengers are expendable you can imagine how much collateral damage the Syrians can look forward to.
MH17 shot down by your Kiev NeoNazi buddies. 8000 Eastern Ukrainians butchered for voting for freedom from Nazis
Ah, the Russia was not involved defense. The little greem men were all local volunteers, the BUK was borrowed, the massive amounts of heavy war materiel were brought by the tooth fairy. It's clear Russians will believe any level of BS. Truth is you've butchered many and accomplished nothing. All of your scared neighbors now beg for NATO. Brilliant.
Oh, I get it! Clearly defined borders and nationalities created by statists matter!
Not hit by a buk. sorry nazi
The story of MH17 is told by 120 tons of gold transferred from US to Netherlands short after.
The Dutch are a trading nation, after all.
Element, you are right.
they should have used the precision guided bombs used in north afganistan on that hospital. right ?
Because you're so interested in what really happened there ... aren't cha?
On Knife’s Edge
https://twitter.com/EugeneSavoy/status/585850802197045248/photo/1
If it wasnt such a serious issue I would have to say I have found Alfred and Message's blog today to be a superb read.
If you look at the time-stamps, it was reminiscent of Ali vs. Frazier.
I could see it happening in real-time, via split screen. Fingers furiously typing, repeatedly clicking the refresh button. Intense staring at the screen. Bladders, ready to burst with either side willing to endure physical damage to gain the lead.
Putin is playing Chess......
Obama is playing...........with the dirty end of Ben Finkenbinders large intestine......and the media has known since 2008
https://www.google.com/search?sclient=psy-ab&biw=1280&bih=623&btnG=Search&q=obama+gay+golf+finkenbinder&oq=obama+gay+golf+finkenbinder&gs_l=hp.12...14241.23457.0.25491.27.27.0.0.0.0.256.2667.20j5j2.27.0.ecynfh.2..0...1.1.64.psy-ab..5.22.2173.PcO6FVc4E5Q&pbx=1
yep, Ben Twinkenbinder always "came in three hours early to meet Senator Obama"......during his first campaign....
BEN FINKENBINDER: OBAMA'S 19TH HOLE
Western shoes, western guns, western cars......yet death to the west....god damn this is classic comedy
The silver lining; finally some time to work on those approach shots
ISIS gone in less than a week .. I doubt it.
Not necessarily ISIS gone in the week, but if the C&C facilities are being taken out I would think their handlers are already legging it back to the border.
I doubt ISIS are "on the ropes" that sounds like wishful thinking. They certainly have had a wake up call in the west. If China comes into to help in the east, that will be significant.
"Explanations for [why the US has been ineffective against ISIS] range from the mainstream (the White House is loathe to get the US into another Mid-East war) to the “conspiratorial” (the CIA created ISIS and thus doesn’t want to destroy the group due to its value as a strategic asset). "
You're making this too complicated. Obama has consistently supported radical Islamists. Obama is a Muslim. It is no more difficult to grasp than that.
As a side note to this article, I hope the UkroNazis are taking notes on what is going on in Syria. They have been trying to provoke Russian Federation intervention in Ukraine. They may have second thoughts now...
What happened to all the surface to air missles that ISIS confiscated from us? ISIS either never got fuzes lit or or had them printed the wrong way. Must have been Chinese made.
Our military leadership has proven to be virtually useless. Putin has been able to flatten Syria north in a frw days virtually eliminating ISIS et al. We're still trying to identify a few rich targets from many weeks prior.
I'm scared..all that money, good equipment, great pilots and air power and a near total vacuum in leadership.
Donald, I hope you're up to the challenge.
The US leadership certainly has a Spinal Tap feel to it.
(credit to a poster on MofA for that one)
"Hello Cleveland! And apologies regarding accidental bombing your clinic."
I think the journalist just asked Putin what he thought about An Inconvenient Truth.
Prediction: a lot of foreign ISIS dirtbags are now looking for their passports and getting ready to return to thier regular lives
working in low budget Netflix videos.
Patton to Third Army:
"We're not just going to shoot the bastards, we're going to rip out their living goddamned guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks. We're going to murder those lousy Hun cocksuckers by the bushel-fucking-basket."
Patton at the end of WW2: "We were fighting the wrong people."
The Putin man-love is strong with this thread.
Anti-Putin bots always start talking about their sexual problems - it is an axiom!
Truth-love is strong with this thread. Jump over to Fox or perhaps Haaretz for what you're looking for.
If by ISIS/ISIL we are meaning disaffected Egyptian fruit vendors, semi retarded Saudi upper middle class failures, Syrians and motley Arabs who settled in Manchester and Leeds and have joined up for the Caliphate then yes Russia had defeated them for now. But Russia and her leaders are not stupid enough to attack Iraq. But now let Russia draw the wrath of the killer bees and let Russia swat and flail at the impending onslaught. History repeats itself. Good luck Putin. We hope you are not kill from this.
How to spot troll, and knows their tactics.
http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
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One of the tactics? Fishing for your emotion. And when you falls for this tactics? They wins. Cause they would present you as a bitter anger human, that no people should pay attention to your arguments.
Don't fall to their trap..
So the boyscouts couldn't handle the big league, eh?
I believe it. I've said all along, US forces could wipe out ISIS in a few days, if allowed.
Well I guess that should stem the flow of radicalised locals from here in the UK running off to join ISIS ...
Now all we need to do is catch the ones that got there on their way home... which I guess is as simple as looking for a UK passport and getting an answer to the question 'where did you go on holiday again?"
You guys dont get it, it ddoesnt matter anymore, the fact that MCCAIN would say on TV that he has no problem siding with people who would become ALQUEDA (arming rebels to shoot down russia like they did in afghanistan) and that not get ANY traction what so ever is telling. Obama could come on MSNBC today and say AMERICA IS BACKING ISIS and NOT ONE reporter or journalist would say anything to challenge him. American media is corrupt to its very core.
It would be funny if Obama did that as a gag on meat the press and everyone blinks and says, "Well, yeah, but how do we make the most of the opportunity this opens up to get rid of the real problem, Assad?" It'd be US policy about two sentences later, sins forgiven, it's a bloody miracle! Yup, that could definitely happen. It currently seems more real, than unreal.
Moral clarity.
Funny,
Indeed.
Sad but true
And what is even sadder is that the majority in this country seem to think that because these people are in power that they must really know something and that their actions (the govt/cia/corporate-interests) are actually wise and for the greater good, even if all the evidence is held from them....t"trust us, we have *your* best interests in mind..." This goes for the stupid liberal as it does to the stupid teabagger.....and so it goes....
I am afraid years of being untouched militarily have left americans and america delusional and apathetic about war. Listen i love america, but honestly like you love a child sometimes it needs a good slap. America needs to be cut down by its knees to focus on better global priorities. It pisses me off to hear we spent 2 trillion on a war yet NASA gets defunded or we dont have high speed internet or highspeed rail systems like other advanced countries. And honestly the only reason i think that is, is because they know first hand the horror of war on their land and do not wish to repeat it so look to more fruitful ventures.
The inftrastrucure deficit is far worse than you think. A friend of mine did consultancy for an electricity utility in Illinois and was shocked to find that it had degenerated to almost Third World levels. Simply no investment for decades, patches and work-arounds everywhere.
What the hell does that mean? Please be explicit.
<< America needs to be cut down by its knees to focus on better global priorities. >>
How can you possibly cry about NASA getting defunded?? or high speed rail??
The term for socialist fifth columnists is enemedia.
That is a fact. The MSM is just a mouthpiece for TPTB.
Hah.. i wonder what they are discussing at the Pentagon right now about the highly successful multi nation airstrikes against their mercenaries, i see the Pentagon's top official overseeing military relations with Russia and Ukraine has resigned about five days ago, her name is Evelyn Farkas. According to some news outlets (and i take this with a pinch of salt but still..) The Pentagon is considering using force to protect US-backed rebels targeted by Russia. Then you got Donald Trump.. and Fox News moving in on the situation. There is a now NO FLY ZONE for NATO planes over Syria. I think the biggest joke of all is that Obama condemed Putin's actions in Syria, but declared there will be no U.S.-Russia proxy war.. gee i thought this was Russia's response to a proxy war :P
Odds that bunker buster took out some CIA stooges?
100%
They are all CIA stooges
They are all CIA stooges
Negropoleon gets schooled.
Ha, like our goal was ever really to destroy ISIS. Love him or hate him, Putin is at least one leader worthy of respect, and one that is actually a leader, not some media driven ZWO sock puppet out to destroy the country he leads.
Remember negropoleons ministers words - "God bless America? no - God damn America!"
[Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin:] Source: LYBIO.net
First point, I never said that I view the US as a threat to our national security.
President Obama, as you said, views Russia as a threat, but I don’t feel the same way about the US. What I do feel is that, the politics of those in the circle of power, if I may use those terms… The Politics of those in power in the US is erroneous. It not only contradicts our national interests, it undermines any trust that we had in the United States and in that way it actually harms the United States as well.
Undermined trust, with the understanding that they are one of the global leaders, in politics and in matters of the economy.
I can stay silent on many things…. But, as I always say, and Dominic here has just mentioned it. One-sided actions, in the continuous search for the next “alliance” and coalitions. Which are predetermined…
This is not a method that seeks to discuss and agree on mutual grounds of understanding. These are one sided actions. They are carried out all the time. They lead to crisis, I’ve said this before. Another threat that President Obama mentioned was ISIS. Well who on earth armed them? Who armed the Syrians that were fighting with Assad. Who created the necessary political informational climate that facilitated this situation? Who pushed for the delivery of arms to the area?
Do you really not understand as to who is fighting in Syria?
They are mercenaries, mostly. Do you understand they are paid money?
Mercenaries fight for whichever side pays more.
So they arm them and pay them a certain amount. I even know what these amounts are.
So they fight, they have the arms, you can’t get them to return the weapons of course, at the end.
They they discover elsewhere pays a little more… so they go fight there.
Then they occupy the oil fields. Wherever, in Iraq, in Syria. They started extracting the oil – and this oil is purchased by somebody.
Where are the sanctions on the parties purchasing this oil?
Do you believe the US does not know who is buying. Is it not their allies that are buying oil from ISIS?
Do you not thing the US has the power to influence their allies?
Or is the point that they indeed do not wish to influence them? Then why bomb ISIS?
In areas where they started extracting oil and paying mercenaries more in those areas, the rebels from ‘civilized’ Syrian opposition forces. Immediately joined ISIS. Because they are paid more. I consider this absolutely unprofessional politics. It is not grounded on facts, in the real world. We must support civilized, democratic opposition in Syria.
So you support, arm them, and then tomorrow they join ISIS. Can they not think a step ahead?
We don’t stand for this kind of politics of the US. We consider it to be wrong. It harms all parties, including you [USA].
When it comes to the consideration of our national interests. I would really like it if people like you [US journalist] who posed the questions, would one day head our government. Maybe then we can somehow reverse the situation.
If that doesn’t happen, I will at least ask you to deliver my messages to your government.
To the President of the United States, the vice-President and all the other relevant people.
Tell them that we do not want, or look for, any confrontation whatsoever.
When you start to consider our national interests in your actions. Any other disagreements we may have-they will self-regulate.
This needs to be done, not just talked about. You must consider the interests of others, and you must respect other people. You cannot “squeeze” other, having considered only the benefits that you require from whatever….
In economics, in your military activities, in everything. Look at Iraq, the situation is horrible. Look at Libya and what you did there, that got your Ambassador murdered.
Was it us that did this?
You even had a Security Council decision for this.
To establish a no fly zone.
What for?
Is was so that Gaddafi’s air-force couldn’t fly over and bomb the rebels.
This wasn’t the smartest decision.
But okay…
What did you proceed to do yourselves?
You started bombing the territory.
This is in clear contravention of the Security Council resolution.
It is even outright aggression over a state.
Was it us that did this?
You did this with your bare hands.
And it ended with the murder of your Ambassador.
Who’s fault is it?
It is your fault.
Is it a good result that your Ambassador was murdered?
It is actually a terrible catastrophe.
But do not look around for somebody to blame when it is you making these mistakes.
You must do the opposite: rise above the endless desire to dominate. You must stop acting out of Imperialistic ambitions.
Do not poison the consciousness of millions of people like there can be no other way but Imperialistic politics.
We will never forget our relationship when we support the US in the War of Independence.
We will never forget that we collaborated in both World Wars, as allies.
I personally believe that the geo-strategic interests of Russia and the US are essentially the same.
We must focus on this interrelationship. Source: L Y B I O . N E T
https://youtu.be/Ykb5sxTl1Rw Banned In USA Putin Explains Who Supports ISIS:http://lybio.net/banned-in-usa-putin-explains-who-supports-isis/people/
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After watching bunch of videos made by russia's targeted de los banditos I sugest that ALLAHU AKBAR (what is main phrase there) means TOILET PAPER
Yeah, that makes me smile as well. They're getting the shit blown out of them while shouting Allah Snackbar. If he was so akhbar why are they getting their asses handed to them?
The important thing to remember is that ISIS is essentially a volunteer army much like the one George Washington had in the 1770's. The big problem they have is when these bombs and missiles go off. Your body shakes, your teeth shakes, and your brain shakes. If you live through it, you start finding pieces of bodies amidst horrific wreckage. You begin to question why you are fighting and decide that maybe 'home' wasn't so bad after all.
compare to Washingtons men is ridiculous
The 600 that left probably just received their immigration approval from Obama
I hope the Iranian troops capture some ISIS terrorists and show us the real proof that they are jews.
They do not need to waste their time capturing them, killing them is better, there is enough evidence supporting the fact that they are funded trained and helped in terrorist jew hospitals. Bomb them to dust is all that is needed.
If Putin could run for president of USA, he would probably win.
I'm certain he could dig up a Hawaiian birth certificate
Alaska
Bill Clinton could be president of France! (loop hole in Louisiana purchase)
Russia says to step up air strikes in Syria
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0RX0FX20151003
Great! All that's left to do is seize control of the former ISIS strongholds, round up all the civilians (including terrorists dressed as civilians), and send them to countries that oppose Russia.
Never before have we Americans had so little to be proud of.
This bitter, half-breed "President" is beyond disgraceful.
He's scummier than IS (soon, thanks to Putin: WAS).
Don't blame the Pres - it was the US War Department plan to use ISIS as a tool to remove the legimate Syrian President. Thank DOG for Vlad !
I love how all the progressives say dont blame obama. If the fucking shitbag is responsible for nothing who needs him? Cut the ridiculous cost of having this colostomy bag in office
America has never had anything to be proud of. The only thing in America I'm proud of are certain family members, friends and a few neighbors. People, not things, concepts, entities, governments, governing documents, Culture or history. That stuff is all bullshit. Always has been.
That's a bit unfair. Go back to the fifties. That traditional, family-oriented, wealthy country with great manufacturers and universities had a ot to be proud of.
How can anybody be sure that lifestyle was not subsidized by foreign conquest?
Putin fends off criticism in first meetings with Western leaders
DEBKAfile October 3, 2015, 11:56 AM (IDT)For the first time since he launched air strikes in Syria, Vladimir Putin met western leaders, holding talks Friday in Paris with Chancellor Angela Merkel and President Francois Hollande. The US-led coalition had just issued a joint statement calling on Moscow to immediately cease attacking Syrian opposition forces and focus on fighting ISIS. Alexei Pushkov, a top Russian foreign affairs official, commented to French radio earlier: “The US is criticizing Russia for ‘lack of selectivity in our targets’ in Syria. So what stopped them from picking the right targets over a whole year, rather than just pointlessly bombing the desert?!”
good question
Wasn't the U.S government trying to say the Russian bombings were hitting the hospital?
Wonder if the plan was to make it look like Russia hit the doctors without borders but got caught...
No, that hospital is in afghanistan
Pentagon and Obama have always been using ISIS as a bogieman to keep Euro and Middle East allies united.. there was never an intention to destroy ISIS.. Smart Putin was able to see through the plot!
This was obvious when we saw images of 1000 yard convoys of ISIS vehicles on the road. If the US had used its air force or even drones it'd have been turky shoot. But nothing ever happened.
What is worth mentioning is the interests of the weapons manufacturers are served by protracted conflict. Long campaigns allow them to milk the public for far money than short campaigns. This logic also means that these organisations can be expected to create weapons that are not too destructive, meaning the US may not actually have the most effective weapons systems, but ones that cost the most.
But aren't they already in the desert?
I agree Russia is doing a good thing. But if you think our world has taken a turn for the better, I would say wait and see what happens next.
2 diplomats arguing:
"My terrorist group is nicer than your terrorist group."
Or,
My lying corrupt politician is more noble than your lying corrupt politician.
Not buying it
It might be premature to declare a Russian success over ISIS and if so that would be very difficult to swallow for the US would'nt it? It may be high time for the US to crank-up it's support for ISIS to prolong the proxy fight in Syria and to drive out more refugees to Europe which is already tilting from the heavy load taken on board.
America is a huge country with an enormous number of good honest people. How do we end up with such worthless leaders lacking in character, honesty, or vision.
You could say that about any war-mongering authoritarian nation in history. The rich use every possible means to get to the top and waste the nation's resources on themselves. Simple as that.
To be fair the United States are just going through what practically every country in Europe has had to put up with for hundreds of years. The US problem is that they don't have a Church strong enough to fight Judaeo-Masonry tooth and nail. Protestantism is a weak, effeminate and fragmented religion, no match for the depredations visited upon a country by the Jew. At least in Europe the Catholic and Orthodox Churches were strong, and the civil authorities listened to the ecclesiastical authorities when they were advised to chase these parasites out. Needless to say the ecumenical Catholic Church of the 21st century is nothing like the Church of old, and that will remain so as long as the priests continue turning their backs on the Tabernacle to face the people. Any Church that destroys its own Liturgy thus is an emasculated Church, a Church that will never have the strength to do the will of Christ as opposed to the will of the people.
The solution for the Church is to restore the Divine Liturgy, and order the priests to turn their backs on the people and face the Tabernacle instead. A priest needs to listen to Christ, who firmly rejected the so-called Jews, not to the people, who couldn't care less one way or the other. The solution for the US is to convert en masse to this newly-invigorated Church and to ally themselves with the Russian Orthodox to do away with the Jewish problem for once and for all, instead of supporting these enemies of Christ.
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You let your corrupt government destroy your country. Bringing "democracy" to the rest of the world?. How about starting with the US of A. Wake the fuck up!.
Lazy slothful citizens, poor education system, terrible diet and on and on
That's very simple. Do a straw poll of these "good honest people" about Syria and 5/10 will not even know what the fuck you are talking about or what a "Sryia" is. 4/10 will parrot back the corporate media lies about how evil Putin is and how evil Assad is and how they need to stopped at all costs and how what the U.S. is doing is great. 1/10 (if you are lucky) will be at least somewhat intelligent and informed on the situation.
America is the most coddled, dumbed down, brainwashed society in the history of this planet. Even most of the "educated" ones just listen to the media and believe 100% of what they hear, even when it's contradictory.
So rather than blaming these worthless leaders, I suggest you start from the bottom up and start blaming the worthless population that enables the worthless leaders.
Most mind controlled are the Japanese followed by Germans then Chinese.
Americans are better than all Europeans, look what they are inviting.....crushing immigration and put out welcome mat.
Originally the US constitution only allowed voters who were working land owners who were male. Since then it has dumbed down with inclusiveness. Also originally America was not supposed to have a standing army.
Good and honest people. Perhaps. Intelligent, wise and courageous? No.
That's how you end up with such worthless leaders lacking in character, honesty and vision.
The Zionist Occupational Government you are cursed with doesn't help either, of course.
Everything the US touches turns to shit
That's a bit harsh, isn't it?
No.
Actually I thought he was giving false praise.
Demonic jew, turk, saudi, quatar, jordan, uk, fra and amerikkkan run ISIS are only good at killing innocent civilians, the world is waking up to ameriNAZI deception and the effects will be shattering to the people in USSA who send there children off to kill people all around the world. The golf playing fag in Chief that runs your cesspool of a country will be destroyed along with a large part of your country, there will be nowhere to hide from the destruction you have brought to other people around the world.
Your time approaches.
America is run by the 'chosenites''
The bastards who have been kicked out of 109 places and counting throughhout history.
I never really understood how or why Israel controlled US foreign policy till this. http://fortruss.blogspot.com.au/2015/10/israels-realism-creates-irration...
Yeah, it seeks to explain the neo-con US foreign policies since the days of GW Bush.
"The Wolfowitz Doctrine", based upon "Israel First" which requires the destruction of large parts of the current M/E in order to rebuild it in Israel's likeness as "A Greater Israel".
Israel's ''likeness'' a land of children buggerin pedofiles and faggots. Sodom and Gomorrah part 2
It is difficult to believe that the current developments in the region are part of the "battleplan" for the puppet masters NWO agenda.
So lets put this into perspective, shall we ?
The Western Axis of Evil controlled by izraHELL is upset, especially their greatest terrorist organization The USSA. They are pissed because Russia is bringing and end to their free for all wholesale slaughter of people, and when Fra acting from orders of CRIF were told to bomb Syria in a blatant act of terrorism, that was the last straw. Putin timed his entry into the fray at the shortest and most opportune time. this is the truth, and loads of western sheepies are in denial of this simple fact, or are just to ignorant and cannot use their brains, as they seem to of lost this ability through good brainwashing methods.
You dumb fuck violent terrorist Amerikkkans should be ashamed of what you let your children and citizens do, I can hardly believe you can all look at yourselves in the mirror, but considering the vile filth you all push on each other and try to force the world to accept and do, it is hardly a surprise, the only surprise to me is that you still exist, I sincerely hope this changes soon. You are the scum of the world !
An interesting article, and the story is being well hidden, if any of you dumb fucks can read anything besides English, which you all battle with as well.
https://strategika51.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/syrie-duel-aerien-entre-de...
You should read the comments on other blogs. American Christians saying we have to support Israel because of the Buybull.
Some very sick nutty people in America.
Don't forget Marx's Buybul, Mao's Buybull, the Islamic Buybull .... all idiots have their Buybull .... your's would be Mad Magazine .... the Dutch edition?
Those Christians have been misguided. The Bible actually calls the current denizens of Israel "the synagogue of satan". and "those who say they are Jews but are not"
...American Christians...sick nutty people in America...
It could very well be argued that the place you call "America", (as I presume you mean the United States), has actually achieved "Post Christian" status. I will also go out on a limb and assume by "buybull" you are meaning a specific type of interpretation of the final book of the Christain canon attributed to the Apostle John known as the Revelation of Jesus.
The book is filled with symbolic imagery that has served the political needs of menaces throughout recorded history and ours will likely not be the last. Those who have attempted to justify sinful conduct by attributing their cumpulsion to do so by a misguided interpretation / application and personal agenda will continue to find themselves on the wrong end of the justice the writing contains.
When He returns, there will be no need for the media. Christianity is not to be understood as being limited to or identified with a geographic location or even a period of time, as even the earth itself cannot contain it.
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It's not American's , it's Obama. Obama who was annointed America's king by the Europeans before he was even elected in the USA when you guys promptly gave him the Nobel Peace Prize. Now, the Euros are getting ready to give John fucking Kerry the same honor.
Don't forget the Eurofags bowed before Obamao and worshiped him in Berlin before the election.
It's not American's , it's Obama. Obama who was annointed America's king by the Europeans before he was even elected in the USA when you guys promptly gave him the Nobel Peace Prize. Now, the Euros are getting ready to give John fucking Kerry the same honor.
Now lets see some troops on the ground capture some sniveling American and EU ISIS kids.
Obama could have done this .... but, he was supporting .... their murderous genocide .... of Christians, errant Muslims, Kurds, Shias, etc. .... not too many Jews in those parts .... anymore ?
All one needs to research on this is the greater israel map. Everything in that space is being cleansed of non-jews. Millions upon millions of people slaughtered or displaced all for tfj. Sick and pathetic.
Some Jews after service in IDF were in Pattagonia Forrest screaming "this belongs to jews, all of it"
Dude, its the whole world they are after, all of it.
This could have been achieved a long time ago by the west, but then that wasn't the plan was it?
More on the agenda here......
http://beforeitsnews.com/global-unrest/2015/09/have-the-useless-thinkers...
For those out there who come here and say ZH is infested with Russian lovers(especially to message and Element who are frantic):
I think you need to look at the responses and comments on your beloved MSM channels about what people think of what Russia is doing. Few of us here are "Russian Trolls". We are regular people who are fed up with lies and deception that comes from the triad known as Isreal/Saudis/USA. We are fed up with people being killed in the name of democracy. If that constitutes your definition of a troll then you are a cløwn and a troll and what Himmler called "untermenschen". In your own admission, you support killing of innocent people and you support imperialistic US warmachine. That alone puts you along side war criminals. Sanity in this world seems to be a scarce commoditiy these days.
What the US did is they landed in their own shit and exposed themselves for the whole world to see as to what is/was really going on in the ME. There is no excuse or report that will change that anymore. They can squeel like pigs from Pentagon, Tel Aviv, DC and Riyadh, people have finally opened their eyes. Genie is out of the bottle.
Well said!
Turkey, Syria and the Kurdish Question
http://www.freecriticalthinking.org/daily-pickings/1479-turkey-syria-and...
James Corbett and Sibel Edmonds discuss why the Kurds are pivotal to the conflict across the Middle East and the contradictions in the various alliances.
There is little doubt that ISIS is the creation of US, UK and Israel, aided and abetted by other NATO countries including Turkey which seeks to crush the Kurds. So while media hysteria suggests Islamic State (IS, ISIS, ISIL etc.) is the biggest threat to western civilisation, it obscures the overriding motivations of individual states: the US/NATO want to overthrow Bashar Assad in Syria, initially by using ISIS as a proxy force but more recently by overt military action (air strikes) within Syrian borders under the pretext of bombing ISIS; Turkey is working to suppress/eliminate Kurds in Turkey, again under the pretext of attacking ISIS; while Israel is "joining forces" with all sides to foment chaos across the region. In spite of these efforts, Syria is holding on and the Kurdish PKK has been the most effective force against ISIS to date.
The struggle of the Kurdish people is our struggle, for freedom and autonomy. We'd do well not to ignore their plight because they offer a spark of hope for us all. Until all people are free, none of us are free.
Turkey,Israel, the US and NATO have been bombing Kurdish women fighting ISIS...
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Kurdish-Women-Turning-Kobani-into-...
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One thing I despise are women beaters. Especially when they have done nothing wrong and are suffering the abuses they have been enduring from terrorist nutjobs and their 'democracy' bringing allies.
Interesting to see what Russia's reaction will be if Israhell attacks the Golan again.
This is something everyone should check out... Seems hospitals are targeted more than MSM reports.
Medical Care Under Fire
https://flipboard.com/@msfusa/medical-care-under-fire-aa78l1cuy
The Golan Issue might come up. But as I understand it, Russia will continue to do airstrikes and let other ground forces do the mop up. That allows Russia a viable exit strategy as they have planned carefully not to get mired in the situation.
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Disclosure: I served as a fire chief some years ago.
I disagree. I think Russia/China will be there for the long haul like USA bases in Germany.
China is busy in several african countries. Time will tell.
And even if the Russians are the big bad guys like many think, all they have to do now to win the day is tell the truth. That's how bad the US has become.
Oh yes. The US and all its stated wonderful ideology. Watch what they do, not what they say:
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/10/3/nine-dead-thirty-missing...
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Putin is telling the truth but media never shows his speeches. Same thing went down with Hitler. I actually believe that Putin has studied history quite thoroughly and has learned from the mistakes of Hitler. Instead of going all frontal attack Putin has patiently waited for the West to make a blunder. Patience indeed pays off. Especially when you corner your opponent into what seems to be a check mate, in one single move.
All Putin now has to do is wait for more and more people to wake up. Once that time arrives Putin will be able to reveal more and more about what the West has been really doing and who was behind what. Because at that point people will be receptive for other interpretations. Putins rise to power was a strategically executed strategy. He played along as long as he needed to, and when the time came, he delivered the final blow. This is no different.