Doctors Accuse White House Of Lying To Justify "Collateral Damage" In Kabul Hospital Bombing

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By way of excuse for what President Obama called "a tragic incident," (and The UN called a 'war crime') US officials have claimed that the Taliban were fighting from within the Kabul hospital (which was destroyed by a US air strike yesterday killing at least 19 including 3 children) using aid workers as "a human shield." However, this justification for the 'collateral damage' has been vehemently denied by Medecins Sans Frontier (MSF) who have issued a statement dismissing the US claims, "the gates of the hospital compound were closed all night so no one that is not staff, a patient or a caretaker was inside the hospital when the bombing happened..." but, the US strike has done one thing, as one local health official concluded, "this city is no longer for the living."

In a statement, President Barack Obama offered condolences to the victims of what he called "the tragic incident" where as we detailed previously, the aid group MSF has said an air strike, probably carried out by U.S.-led coalition forces, killed 19 staff and patients on Saturday in a hospital it runs in Kunduz, leaving 37 wounded. The 'reason' offered by US officials, as Reuters reports,

The U.S. military said it conducted an air strike "in the vicinity" of the hospital, as it targeted Taliban insurgents who were directly firing on U.S. military personnel.




In Kabul, the Afghan Ministry of Defense said Taliban fighters had attacked the hospital and were using the building "as a human shield".

But the medical aid group denied this.

"The gates of the hospital compound were closed all night so no one that is not staff, a patient or a caretaker was inside the hospital when the bombing happened," Medecins Sans Frontieres said in a statement on Sunday.  "In any case, bombing a fully functioning hospital can never be justified."


Witnesses said patients were burned alive in the crowded hospital after the airstrike. Among the dead were three children being treated.


Frantic MSF staff telephoned military officials at NATO in Kabul and Washington after the attack, but bombs continued to rain down for nearly an hour, one official of the group said. The medical charity that was a lifeline for thousands in the city said it was pulling most of its staff out of the area because the hospital was no longer functioning. Some staff had gone to help treat the wounded at other hospitals, it added.


Taliban fighters in Kunduz were still holding out against Afghan troops, despite government claims to have taken control of the area.


The Afghan defense ministry on Sunday congratulated residents over the victory and military helicopters dropped 6,000 leaflets urging people to cooperate with the army."If you see abandoned military vehicles or equipment anywhere turn them over to security forces," the leaflets read.


A coalition military official in Kabul, who asked not to be named, said, "Our understanding is that the whole area is still contested."


Corpses lie in the streets and people are too afraid to leave their homes, said one resident, Gulboddin. "You can hear the sound of gunfire all over the city," said Gulboddin, who has only one name. "Some of the bodies are decomposing.


"Hospitals running out of medicine are struggling to treat growing numbers of patients, said public health official Sayed Mukhtar. "There is no electricity and hospital laboratories are not working," he added. "This city is no longer for living."

Which explains why the group has decided to leave the city... International medical charity Doctors Without Borders said Sunday that it has withdrawn from the northern Afghan city of Kunduz

Kate Stegeman, the group's communications manager, said some staff are working in other health facilities in the city, where troops have been battling Taliban insurgents.


“All critical patients have been referred to other health facilities and no MSF staff are working in our hospital,” she said, using the French abbreviation for the organization.


“Some of our medical staff have gone to work in two hospitals where some of the wounded have been taken,” she said.

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The U.S. government promised a full investigation into the incident as the U.N. human rights chief said the bombing could amount to a war crime.

As Glenn Greenwald points out, "it’s impossible to fathom what the U.S. media would be saying and doing if Russia did something like this in Syria. By contrast, the reaction to this airstrike by their own government will be muted and filled with apologia, ironically quite similar to the widely vilified caricature of Jeb Bush’s comments about the Oregon shooting spree: stuff happens."


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HowdyDoody's picture

Politicians lying to cover their ass? Nope, never gonna happen.


Looney's picture

It looks like Russia will soon expand its aerial campaign into Iraq.

Haider al-Abadi, Iraq’s prime-minister, has officially requested Russia’s help fighting ISIS.

There are many classic Chess Openings, but my favorite first move is… hitting the opponent over the head with the chess board and shoving a handful of chess pieces into his face. ;-)



Baby Bladeface's picture
Baby Bladeface (not verified) Looney Oct 4, 2015 8:50 AM

In the United States and the EU, the truth is not held in high esteem.

Latina Lover's picture

Of course the White House lies, this is who they are, Liars. 

Whenever the White House affirms a political position, I assume the Truth to be the opposite. 

Baby Bladeface's picture
Baby Bladeface (not verified) Latina Lover Oct 4, 2015 8:55 AM

Doctors accuse White House of lying and likewise accuse water of wetness guilty.

Lumberjack's picture

Medical Care Under Fire. (MUST READ)...


Here is a list of facilities that have come under coalition fire over the last year, from MSF.

BaBaBouy's picture

@ Russia Busy Bombing iSIS In Syria...
Meanwhile ... uSA Busy Bombing Hospitals In Afgan...

Mister Ponzi's picture

I'm convinced I will hear the U.S. explanation on the evening news. With respect to the MSF denial... not so much.

Pool Shark's picture



Obama was right the other day when he said we need more 'gun control' laws...


We need to make it illegal for idiots like Obama to use guns.

TBT or not TBT's picture

The story does not benefit the left.   

Demologos's picture

Or the right, because the news media are owned by the same masters. It's not a two headed monster, the masters have unleashed a Cerberus on us. If you add in the NSA-CIA-IRS-GMO-NWO-ACA, we are facing the Hydra. Lop off one head and another grows back in its place.

TBT or not TBT's picture

Ah, no.   Afghanistan dropped out of the news the moment W left office, despite most of our casualties piling up under Obama's TRIPLING of our activity there.    Remember Cindy Sheehan?   Her airplay dropped to zero once she no longer served to beat on Bush.   Remember Code Pink?   Remember daily death counts regarding Iraq?  The MSM have a Democrat bias, and massively so.   

azusgm's picture

There is a news brief in our local paper. It says that the source of the bombing hasn't been determined.

Demologos's picture

Can't' be sure, it might be the Taliban Air Force bombing themselves. You know, just like the East Ukriainians are shelling their own cities.

Dick Buttkiss's picture

"Everything the State says is a lie, and everything it has it has stolen." — Frederich Nietzsche

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TongueStun (not verified) Baby Bladeface Oct 4, 2015 8:52 AM

What hasn't Obama lied about?

Umh's picture

He's not half white?

Motasaurus's picture

"This city is no longer for the living"

We'll bea hearing that comment a whole lot more in the weeks, months and years to come. 

TBT or not TBT's picture

In a thread involving the everloving TALIBAN, this comment branding the US as the deathcult in the story gets 10 uparrows and not a single downarrow.   

Demologos's picture

I think it has to do with the glaring hypocrisy on the U.S. part, not tolerance of the headchopping, women-beating, child-fucking Taliban.

TBT or not TBT's picture

US pilots and weapons officers have to explain every weapons release to JAG officers upon landing.   Usually the event is watched in high res back at their base.     Ever since they started mounting "Sniper" pods on our ground support aircraft.   

ZippyDooDah's picture

We had to destroy Kunduz to save Kunduz. Cause we are exceptional.

Jlasoon's picture

So we bomb a 'Doctors Without Borders' hospital in Afghanistan & in 72hrs the Russians have almost wiped out ISIS in Syria. Crazy world. What team am I suppose to cheer for again?

Infinite QE's picture

Call 1-900-ZIO-PROS to buy the latest scorecard and team identifier.

JustObserving's picture

The US has launched 6700 airstrikes on ISIS while the Russians have apparently degraded ISIS in just 60 airstrikes. Was the US dropping care packages and videos made in Langley?

The US and its allies have carried out 6700 airstrikes at an expense of nearly $4 billion in the year since President Barack Obama ordered a campaign against Islamic State. Yet the terror group shows no sign of defeat and has even expanded its reach.

Obama is a shameless liar and a war criminal.  The Nobel Prize Winner, who continues to drone women and children and wedding parties, has bombed 7 Muslim countries, told lies about sarin in Syria, created ISIS and destabilized Ukraine. His crimes are legion:

America's deadly double tap drone attacks are 'killing 49 people for every known terrorist in Pakistan

ISIS: The jihadist movement stamped “Made in America”

Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has published an article demonstrating that the US government and President Barack Obama knowingly lied when they claimed that the Syrian government had carried out a sarin gas attack on insurgent-held areas last August.

Perimetr's picture

You are supposed to cheer for the team that is killing the guys cutting off heads,

not the team that is bombing hospitals


Winston Churchill's picture

Thats called the Rambo gambit.

If my memory serves me right the Pentagram considers hospitals high priorit targets.

The first gulf war seemed to have a lot of collateral damage inflicted upon them.

Gregor Samsa's picture

Standard procedure for the empire. Russia also said the same thing yesterday, saying that the U.S. was not bombing ISIS in Iraq and Syria, but rather continuing to destroy the infrastructure of both countries. 

petolo's picture

I'm sure those Doctors Without Borders were  dumping babies out of incubators ..

HowdyDoody's picture

Excellent. If Russia does get involved, the Iraqi military will be trained to be a proper military force, rather than the glorified police force that US intended them to be. More mud in Israel's eyes.

The US has been led into zugzwang. It looks like the rest of crew Putin may end up there too. 11-dimensional zugzwang!


TBT or not TBT's picture

MSF is loaded up with pro third worldist nutters wasting their talents in godforsaken shitholes.   Who knows if what they'd say is unimpeachable?   They're nut jobs themselves.    

Motasaurus's picture

I know that they exist outside your 150 person "monkeysphere", but try an understand that the people in those "godforsaken shitholes" are people too, not just some mass of brown filth deserving to die of preventable diseases.

Winston Churchill's picture

Theyused to be pretty nice people, in peacetime from my memory.Different sure, but the

same desires and hopes most human  beings aspire to.

If you are looking for a godforsaken shithole, populated by non humans, theres one on

the Potomac river.

TBT or not TBT's picture

Nuke DC anytime you like, but leave identity politics out of it.  No one ought to be dehumanizing anyone or bringing skin color into a debate just to score points cheaply.  Nevermind just to posture.   

TBT or not TBT's picture

Taxpayers in France fund the education of new doctors to practice medicine in France.    But a lot of them fall in for the exoticism of godforsaken shitholes and/or the thrill of virtuous posturing while the practice of medicine in France itself enjoys the shortages of doctors.  It isnt the French auto mechanics job to care for suffering arabs or afircans in a different country.    Jesus.   

Motasaurus's picture

Oh. I forgot that as a part of being educated was signing over the rights to your choose for yourself where you spend your life after it. 

Silly me. People lose all their rights the minute they graduate, right? 

TBT or not TBT's picture

I don't think much of the French education and medical systems but that is how they work.  

TBT or not TBT's picture

Any downarrowers here know anything about France that they would like to share?     

umdesch4's picture

I know enough about France to agree with a tiny, tiny bit of what you're saying. But I've also met a fair number of MSF workers, and none of them fit the ridiculous characterization you gave above. In fact, most of them aren't even from France. Do you even know anything about MSF?

TBT or not TBT's picture

MSF has an angelic reputation.  See all the down arrows here above.   They are a kind of secular Mother Teresa, reputationwise.  

HowdyDoody's picture

The ME was a relatively stable mix of Jews, Muslims and Christians until the Zionists came along. Snails leave a trail of slime. Zionists leave a trail of destruction.


TBT or not TBT's picture

The Ottoman Empire didn't put up with their shit for several centuries in a row.  Also, there was a much smaller and poorer population back then.  

HerrDoktor's picture

Welocme to the Monkeyshpere

Bay Area Guy's picture

Uh, well, the hospital is destroyed. Obama has said it was a tragic mistake. So, what about the group would indicate they're lying?

You sound like an "America, right or wrong" kind of person. If so, wake up and see that your country is doing its best to destabilize the entire MENA. They've turned Iraq and Libya into failed states. Yemen is on the way to that status. They've tried with Syria, but Russia won't let them. Oh, and outside the MENA region, they funded the overthrow of a democratically elected Ukraian government and backed Nazis taking that country over. Yeah, your America right or wrong is backing a fucking Nazi government.

TBT or not TBT's picture

The obama jarrett administration  is destabilizing MENA, for sure.   Until then the USA were stability fetishists in MENA.  

Bay Area Guy's picture

Uh huh. That explains the overthrow of Iran's government in the 50's and GWB's invasion of Afghanistan and Iraq after 9/11 and probably a host of crap I've forgotten in between. The US has been screwing around in MENA for decades and we haven't gotten the foggiest idea of what we're doing. The only thing we understand about the region is that it has oil.