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Lawrence Wilkerson: "The American 'Empire' Is In Deep, Deep Trouble"
Former US army colonel and Chief of Staff for Colin Powell, Lawrence Wilkerson unleashed a most prescient speech on the demise of the United States Empire.
As Naked Capitalism's Yves Smith notes, Wilkerson describes the path of empires in decline and shows how the US is following the classic trajectory. He contends that the US needs to make a transition to being one of many powers and focus more on strategies of international cooperation.
The video is full of rich historical detail and terrific, if sobering, nuggets, such as:
"History tells us we’re probably finished.
The rest of of the world is awakening to the fact that the United States is 1) strategically inept and 2) not the power it used to be. And that the trend is to increase that."
Wilkerson includes in his talk not just the way that the US projects power abroad, but internal symptoms of decline, such as concentration of wealth and power, corruption and the disproportionate role of financial interests.
Wilkerson also says the odds of rapid collapse of the US as an empire is much greater is generally recognized. He also includes the issues of climate change and resource constraints, and points out how perverse it is that the Department of Defense is the agency that is taking climate change most seriously. He says that the worst cases scenario projected by scientists is that the world will have enough arable land to support 400 million people.
Further key excerpts include:
“Empires at the end concentrate on military force as the be all and end all of power… at the end they use more mercenary based forces than citizen based forces”
“Empires at the end…go ethically and morally bankrupt… they end up with bankers and financiers running the empire, sound familiar?”
“So they [empires] will go out for example, when an attack occurs on them by barbarians that kills 3000 of their citizens, mostly because of their negligence, they will go out and kill 300,000 people and spend 3 trillion dollars in order to counter that threat to the status quo. They will then proceed throughout the world to exacerbate that threat by their own actions, sound familiar?…This is what they [empires] do particularly when they are getting ready to collapse”
“This is what empires in decline do, they can’t even in govern themselves”
Quoting a Chinese man who was a democrat, then a communist (under Mao) then, when he became disenchanted, a poet and writer…”You can sit around a table and talk about politics, about social issues, about anything and you can have a reasonable discussion with a reasonable person. But start talking about the mal-distribution of wealth and you better get your gun” ….”that’s where we are, in Europe and the United States”.
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...better get your gun... yep 308
Machiavelli counseled the ruling class to never allow anyone they ruled to become to big and, if they did, to cut them back down to size.
He also said that if you want to rule a people that was historically used to being free, you had to hire people from within the area to rul the country ini your stead.
Read his book, The Prince, with eyes to see!
The Federal Reserve destroyed the USA.
America is going through a tough time right now. But she's been through tougher times. I wouldn't bet against her.
We just need the right nigger to lead us out of the darkness.
What will bring daylight into people’s lives is a breakup of the USA.
Go TEXAS!
Gee, might this be a Smedley Butler moment?
Crud.. looking at the Roman Empire, and Revolutionary France, you do not need to be a Phd in economics (theory, not science) or political science (?) er, NO.. theory.. to figure out where this is heading.
I wonder if this guy knows his fomer boss, Gen Colon-Bowel, supported the current Obozo regime and its assinine policies which have got us here?
he knows - these guys only talk all this smack after they retire - too chickenshit to do anything like have a critical thought while in service
It's pretty clear that the Empire dream is crumbling.
Which does not bode well for people on the INSIDE of the empires gates.
Perhaps more true for the west in general right now and to a lesser or greater extent, cultures world-wide that have been brought to their knees by the false (Jewish/Zio inspired and funded) libertarianism of freedom via sex drugs and rock and roll.....it's time to go inwards.
The next 4-5 years are going to be shocking hard in the west as everything you were brought up to believe in shows it's true, tattered colours of specious beginnings, ugly/lost individuals (Sanger, Kinsey, Steinem, Leary, Greatful Dead etc. etc. to name but a few) and a funding hand that showed it's biases early but a populace with their eyes on the TV, hands on their (or someone else's gentalia), beer and bad food...too far gone to rise in any manner of protest at all...
America is definitely sliding down a deep dark hole...
Not finger pointing, just reality...
Apathy is a cancer...
Everyone should give this a listen...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZSBFxanDAw
Get this through your heads..
A f’ng bunch of financial criminals jammed the Fed, the income tax and the end of the Republic (17th amendment) all through in a few months in 1913.
It has been a slow but sure slide to slavery ever since.
This must be ended.
Did I read "Colin Powell"? The same Colin Powell who sold his country down the river into one of the most costly bloodiest wars in American history with a bareface lie about non-existent WMDs and a phantom threat from a cave-dwelling desert country of camel jocks?
THAT Colin Powell?
PULL IT!
Anything that destroys the financial institutional oligarchy and it's federal henchmen is fine by me. Doesn't have to be pretty.
"Chief of Staff for Colin Powell"...was it Wilko who prepped the vial of ANNNNTTHHHRRAAX for Powel to present to the world via the UN PROVING the WMD case for bombing Iraq back to the stoneage?
Sun Tzu also said...
"If you have to fight a war, end it quickly or it will bankrupt the country."
Anyone selling you on a "never ending war" on terror or anything else has, as one of their prime objectives, TO BANKRUPT THE HOST NATION.
BTW, that fraudulent debt-money systems are ENGINEERED to bankrupt the host country, too.
Now you know the Debt-Money Monopolist objective - to bankrupt the world's countries and consolidate the assets they can seize in said bankruptcy so they end up being the world's de facto rulers.
Than again, Henry Ford told everyone this almost 100 years ago!
“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.... The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debt.”
~Henry Ford
This guy is programming people to accept our demise.
He's not talking about actual solutions BECAUSE THIS CLOWN IS PART OF THE PROBLEM AND THE SOLUTION MEANS GETTING RID OF TRAITORS JUST LIKE HIMSELF!
The Traitor is the Plague
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uSA1o07jx0
"Sanger, Kinsey, Steinem, Leary, Greatful Dead etc. etc."
Besides yourself and a few other aging hippies, who else even cares about all that?
WE knew all along that it was BS. WE never drank the kool-aid, electric or otherwise.
Who are WE? Who can say when WE don't even know ourselves?
But make no mistake. This is not over. WE are just getting started.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr-I6-gxecg
Go WE...
As for me, I'm fine, thank you very much....
If we weren't fine, we wouldn't be here. The key is to not be pinned down by a single hope, a single vision, or for that matter, a single KEY.
As Burroughs pointed out, today's easy passage may be tomorrow's death trap.
And so, we no longer deal in the sacred and the profane, but in the superficial and the profound, sometimes separate, sometimes together.
As in:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guqVgQFvXXY
or in other words....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJcXtSr5VJg
@ebear
I used to have a bumper sticker that simply read ;SHUT UP HIPPY
I miss that bumper.
In this day and age compared to the sexties, we have a bit more immigrants who fled their home countries that suffered REAL tragedy, people who dealt with genocide for example. Unlike the hippies who bitched and moaned about a strict daddy who made them mow the effing lawn on sunday.
These new "americans" will eventually rise up IMO and may be the leaders we are looking for.
I once worked on a brand new ship that, due to a launch schedule that couldn't be changed, put to sea in an incomplete state. As the operators, we had only a vague notion of what the builders didn't finish, most often discovered in an emergency, such as when the main engines failed in tight waters, or when the fuel tanks overflowed for lack of a by-pass valve.
This is our situation. We are building a ship at sea with only a passing knowledge of what needs to be done.
-so would you rather he didn't bothering saying anything now, and just water his lawn and grow tomatoes?
No, I'd rather he decided he couldn't live with himself anymore, being the treasonous cunt that he is and did himself a favour.
Wait until Tom Lantos gets ahold of this story and gives him the Boorda treatment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oKOtRDAspI
Id rather he be forthright, if he felt this way then and said nothing like a good yes man - then how is anyone supposed to believe a word the guy says is genuine now.
Drummed out of the service in disgrace if you don't tow the line!
The Horror
The Horror
Powell helped Bush,thew white wonder boy to launch wars.he also covered numerous scandals in vietnam.
Yeah...its fucking climate change causing the problem. Sounds like Colon Jr. I wonder if his wife is crazy too?
Actually you will find that it's over forty years of polices across all types of administration that have got the us to this point.
We shall overcooooome, we shall overcome, some, day. Nome sayin?
Bet against Barry, McConnell, Boehner, and Grandma Yellen: Buy gold.
"The Federal Reserve destroyed the USA."
The Federal reserve created the empire and the empire destryed itself.
(According to the usual path!)
The usual solution is to rid yourself of The Jew.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOAOhgfTekY
America. You have been tricked and now that you realize, it's time to take action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MYPzKNQUE0
The jews alone couldn't have pulled off this travisty.
2000 years of practice, yes they could.
Maybe that's why they've been kicked out of 109 countries.
Edit:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/expelled.htm
More like 10,000 years of practice
We have two fronts where America is corrupt. One is Wall Street and the bankers. The other is the one the Neocons run that is waging war on Israel's enemies using America's army.
The leadership and most of the footsoldiers in these factions are predominantly Jewish. America could save itself a lot of time by arresting all of them in a 24-hour period, and blocking their relatives from taking positions in the fields.
Predatory lending did not stop at the middle class. There are ways to ensure cooperation. Business deals, obligations, high risk investments designed to fail and becoming Your Only Hope for recovering losses. It's a intricately detailed approach by con artists working in unison to bleed dry their victim when the time comes they've been deemed expendable.
"The Federal Reserve destroyed the USA."
Who owns the Federal Reserve? http://www.globalresearch.ca/who-owns-the-federal-reserve/10489
“Some people think that the Federal Reserve Banks are United States Government institutions. They are private monopolies which prey upon the people of these United States for the benefit of themselves and their foreign customers; foreign and domestic speculators and swindlers; and rich and predatory money lenders.” – The Honorable Louis McFadden, Chairman of the House Banking and Currency Committee in the 1930s
“Empires at the end…go ethically and morally bankrupt… they end up with bankers and financiers running the empire, sound familiar?”
Many things destroyed the USA to include:
1. American people becoming willfully ignorant.
2. Short term thinking by corporations and MBA types (We can sell this entire factory to the Japanese for a quarter of the price that the corporation paid for it, for 1/4 of its true value and increase our profits this quarter)
3. Excessive Greed by a few
4. Complete corruption and stupidity by two, possibly three branches of the government.
5. Refusal to go after the true terrorists to include foriegn and domestic.
6. Refusal to sponser research projects into certain areas.
7. Failure to reward the productive of society.
8. Entertainment that never ends.
9. A federal government who exists for itself and not for the nation as a whole.
10. Not realizing that massive wars are not cost effective for the length of the empire. Cost effect techniques of dealing with terrorists are a sounder way to deal with these issues.
I could go on and on but what is the point.
Oh, not to mention that counter intelligence staff make less money then your average Target or McDonald's manager, and grown men who play with balls and sluts who try to sing make more money then doctors, researchers, and generals.
Rant over.
Nothing wrong with reading Machiavelli, but you're better off watching this YT 11 minute clip from a former CIA agent:
"Ex CIA agent explains how to delete the elite!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLr8ZvgURg0
Rook Trump Card
Bury rule by secrecy
"Ex CIA agent explains how to delete the elite!" ???...
Then why haven't the rest of the "Ed Snowden's" come out of the wood work yet to make that happen?...
We're way beyond damage control now brother and that ship that headed to dry dock for repairs didn''t make it 4 years ago!
Motherfuckers like Wilkerson are allowed to roam freely and make money to tell the World "yeah I did it so what are you going to do about it -until of course they can't anymore!
To the Colonel. Keep watching the train wreck you helped to create especially what is happening now Syria and East Ukraine brotha...
In true criminal fashion this cocksucker will just disappear one day without a trace when the rest of this Country is completely destroyed and those that still care come looking for him!
son of : one person from 2008 with the most influence on what happened in the markets : Chris COX sec of treasury under bush..no one in the msm ever interviews him..the man who could of stopped the naked shorting the transfer of mm cash, who could of closed the markets until we got a handle on who the sellers were..well on zh we can guess the big criminal operations of wall street rhymes with goldman cash.
"He says that the worst cases scenario projected by scientists is that the world will have enough arable land to support 400 million people."
*cough* bullshit *cough*
I'm sure the worst case really does say that.
The never point out the probability of the worst case is usually something that has a bunch of zeros after a decimal poiint.
But it's certainly scary to say the worst case and leave that detail out, isn't it?
Article was pretty good except for the climate change BS. If the author wasn't a member of that cult he would have noted the additional data point of perversity in that the Department of Defense abandons its lawful mission in order to pursue pseudoscientific nonsense.
Uh, New York is supposed to be underwater right now. I'm not investing in a life preserver just yet.
Some of the Pacific Islands were supposed to be gone a decade ago. It's a complete heap of shit. These guys can't tell me accurately if it's going to rain TODAY, but I'm supposed to believe thay can tell me the temperature in 50 years. Fuckin baloney.
Many of the same billionaires and celebrities globetrotting via private jet, warning the masses of imminent doom via global warming and rising sea levels, strangely don't seem concerned enough about it to avoid investing heavily in coastal real estate. Funny, that...
Flip it to the next sucker after some Fed Induced inflation.
Morelikely you'll have an iceberg to hitch a ride on.
AGW is the last desperate gambit to keep control for the dying empire.
Great article. However while it exposes the cycle of power centralisation that leads to empires growing and collapsing it does not propose what needs to be done to stop this cycle occurring. This can be done by teaching the public to think critically, having a constitution that you stick to and decentralising power so different arms keep each other from becoming too powerful. Imagine if the NSA reported to the public and was tasked with ensuring politicians were not bribed and that businesses did not try to influence politics? In business the formula is decentralise power, treat people with respect and weed out the narcissists...and then enjoy large profits: This works wih nations and empires as well....why not try it.
The military and civil unrest threats due of climate change are not BS. What is BS are the contortions (both distortions and outright lies) and that the brass knob jockeys at the Pentagram will perform to receive moar funding for reducing competition for potentially much more scarce resources.
The larger threat isn't actually rising temperatures, but rather falling temperatures and changes in average precipitation. A single freeze in Florida can decimate citrus production, a wetter or drier than "Goldilocks" year can wreak havoc on production of various grains, and that is all without the .gov idiocy that is the People's Republic of Draughtifornia.
On a one-year timeline the weather costs are bad enough, but on a slightly longer climate timeline... not even the EBT equipped North American Land Whale has enough stored fat to wait out new McFodder if production has to migrated to follow climate change, which for some perennials (e.g the trees necessary for the all-American apple pie) means much more than a one year wait for first harvest.
So anyway... reducing competition... assuming you are a major power grand poobah (instead of a neo-Ethiopian Arab Spring despot), you can invade someone else to steal their food, invade someone else to reduce your domestic demand for food, or you can FEMA camp the useless eaters and put them on la diète noir, (if you can't afford Zyklon B, and the infrastructure to properly deploy it). Regardless, this is Military Planning 101 level stuff.
Industrial farming it destroying top soil on a massive scale, we reached peak production years ago. Combine that with a decrease in biodiversity from unconstrianed Trojan Horse GMO's, and the prospect of a catastrophic food shock is very real. Don't forget peak Phosphorus is expected to be reached around 2030, and depleated in 50 to 100 years, it true would prove devastating for humanity.
Reached peak production years ago?
Pleasr do explain then how all food crops have increased yield every year while reducing the amount of both land and fertilisers used to do so.
We're no-where near peak production, and the higher the atmospheric CO2 content climbs, and the milder the winters we have (from a warming atmosphere), the more food we will be able to produce. We're not even half way to the optimal atmospheric CO2 levels of 1000ppm for food crop growth yet.
Good for plants; but not for us.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/05/16/civilizations-great-counte...
We have examples of freeing farmers from laws, the results are awesome, really reallly.
Here's a fun graphic from the journal Nature (Science and Nature being the two most prestigious jorunals in modern science):
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v461/n7263/fig_tab/461472a_F1.html#...
By mainstream academia's own numbers, industrial farming (the primary cause of nitrogen pollution is a far bigger problem than official global warming. But you never hear a peep about it because the main cause of this type of pollution is a combination of 1) subsidies and 2) GMOs which require much higher N input to get the growth that's possible from genetic modification. Since the solution is less control over farming, they have no problem driving the Earth off a cliff.
PBS Nasa Scientists Announce Finding A New Trojan Asteroid That Shares The Same Orbit With The Earth
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6upbpev-ms
Rod of G*d 666?
Do tell what a phosphorus space ship looks like, since yer implying that it's going somewhere off-planet.
Ive got a 708. Dwarfs AR. BTW a hell of a lotore than 300k sacrificed at yhe alter of greed. Five years ago the Lancet acknowledged 1.3 million dead in Iraq alone.
Wilkerson has the freedom to travel and talk because he receives a fairly large military pension. What neither Wilkerson or any other critic of the current rulers of the United Staes will say is that the United States has no economic future anymore. The Wall Street looters have pillaged the country, first stealing the assets of corporate pension funds and now finishing off their brigandage by stealing all the future tax income of this country through the criminal use of derivatives. America is now a country with poisoned water supplies (fluoridation which causes heart disease), poisoned food (glyphosates and antbiotic contamination) and a poisoned electoral system where the top 0.1% chooses the winners. The super-rich have their bolt holes outside the USA because they don't want to be around when this country, now a near Nazi state complete with death squads and Nazi People's Court-type hanging judges and prosecutors, completes its transformation by setting up concentration camps.
Don't forget the fire sale to other countries on gold and silver as well as other resources through manipulation to bolster thier wealth for debt ponzi scheme.
I don't believe they will be safe anywhere in the world when this goes down.
Several of my 0.01% clients have come to the same conclusion and have opted to be the
billionaire next door, with no real displays of great wealth, and paying to avoid being on the Forbes list.
Only ego maniac targets are now on that list.
This asshole is part of the problem. Fuck him and his bullshit Glow-Ball warming scam. He should be in jail for the Iraq War along with Obama and Bush.
What do you expect from him, he is a CFR member and a CIA/NSA asset. No one ever retires from the CIA, you just aren't assigned projects and you are pensioned, but the only way you ever leave the CIA is in a box. He is not an American, he is a globalist. You have to be, or your not allowed into the CFR.
Which begs the question, why is ZH publishing his bullshit?
It's a funky feeling to be a part of a community that has this constant, back of the mind feeling that we are in a limited hang-out.
There is ZERO cohesion for action on this board and some of the best minds I've encountered in my life (a few, but they are here).
Someone is winning at this moment and it is not us....it is the THEM (Tiotally Hideous Empire Mannequins)...
I've wondered if ZH is allowed to exist so that we can vent off, and therefore not take action.
Not to mention they also know who you are and where you really live, via your IP addresses, then who you associate/communicate with. So they can build a fairly accurate "probability" profile or what people may or may not do when TSHTF. As Snowden points out, they did not build those mega-data centers in Utah to just store phone meta-data.
Even when they are working, they work badly. History is a huge series of failures, everywhere.
'Win' is randomwalk, you know?
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/10/02/warning-ideas-are-dangerous/
It just takes open eyes, and not any fancy background or degrees (indeed, those are probably a hinderance at this point) to see this.
In other news, water is wet.
Let's just hope the clueless "strategists" that are making all these blunders don't blow up the world. At least the USSR recalled their weapons during the collapse, I hope the military leadership does the same instead of using them before their expiration date, ala Libya.
I like how you say so much with so few words-
Clueless strategists and military leadership aside, you know fuckin' well that if they can't own their little narrowly focused 'world', they will absolutely do everything in their power to blow it up. And...
The next day, the sun will rise, and the wind will blow, and the birds will sing.
Here's hoping I see you there, eh?
It may not be the "Strategists", rather than the "General Folks" once the current very opulent (by Global averages) living standard begins to erode a little.
When (not if) the real necessities of survival become less available, people are always amenable to the views of those who may "promise to restore our previous greatness" - now where have we heard that comment, from one whose business acumen is rather less stellar than he would wish us to believe (on closer examination).
Will the USA retire from the Global limelight with decorum, or will the temptation to "prove we're still Number One" by variuous deeds of Global mass destruction prove just too attractive to the "in control" set??
The time to "Place your Bets, Ladies and Gentlemen" may be almost upon us . . . . . . . .
Don't ever tell anyone (American) that they're not free, 'cos if you do, they'll get real busy maimin' 'n killin' to prove to you just how free they are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE7VwCnnrlg
I would like to talk about the mal-distribution of wealth.
Have gun, will travel.
Was that Maverick, or Palladin? I can't remember.
Must be some vagina on here who serially junks me. Just so you know- I consider myself lucky to be acknowledged, and I know what, and who I am. I hope I scare you. It's my hearts' desire.
Now that I think about it, Have gun, will travel was Palladin's tag line. There was a time, when I was young and stupid, that I thought that was cool.
Palladin was just a prototype for ISIS. Is that your phone? Better pick it up.
That's a lot of fancy historical analysis.
All you really need to know is that there is a communist Muslim in the White House who hates his own country. Eight years of that will kill any empire.
Bingo. IMHO, the surest sign of American decline is that we gleefully elected a man who despises America. And then compounded the mistake by re-electing him. Obama promised to "fundamentally transform America" and he is certainly doing just that. Before he was elected, no one know WTF that meant because the MSM was too busy cheerleading for Obama instead of doing their fucking job.
While I doubt Obama is an actual Muslim, I think he is a Marxist Atheist with deep Muslim sympathies. He is clearly not playing for our team--and never has been. But the people who put him office simply didn't give a fuck. It was all about the bullshit of racial politics to make them feel good about themselves. That and free shit.
Here's a fucking news flash for you Einstein. Your 'team' as you so quaintly put it has spent the last 250 years murdering, bombing, assassinating and fucking over 3/4's of the planet. Originally, just after the revolution, there was a period of say 20 years (just as Jefferson suggested) where the citizenry of the US was peacful and productive. Then, not long after the death of the last of the original Father's of the Revolution, the psychopaths arrived (General Hull at Fort Detroit) and started their crap with an attempted invasion of Canada (1812-14). That didn't work out so well, so you went south and fought with the Spanish, the Mexicans, every country in central and south america, declaring that the US had a god given right to control the entire area of North and South America (the Monroe doctrine). On the way you made sure you wiped out virtually every 'dirty injun' you could find, burned a few dozen 'witches' at the stake, invaded China and brought the opium/heroin trade to America (the Connecticut Yankees in their Clipper ships) and generally forced yourselves on an unwilling world. There are only two western democracies that have never engaged in empire, Australia and Canada. All the rest, the UK, the Netherlands, Portugal, Spain, Italy, Turkey, Greece, the Macedonians (greeks), France, Denmark, Norway, Austria, Hungary have all tried and failed at establishing empires, killing millions along the way. I read your Constitution a few years back (probably one of the most enlightened documents ever created), and I seem to remember a passage about 'not becoming entangled in foreign intrigues'. Too bad you didn't take that to heart. They left you a clear, easy to understand, definitive document on how to live and you fucking destroyed it, and yourselves in the process.
The rest of the history is available to anybody that cares to investigate, which means not very many Americans, who prefer to remain conveniently ignorant of your bloody history.
News flash for YOU...All significant Governments throughout history have killed lots of people to remain in power. And FYI, Canada and Australia don't matter cause they're really just extensions of Europe, as they follow in lockstep.
Refernce France: 1790 through 1816. Sorry. But paper doesn't work unless you feed it war. When war is always an option, society fails in the common place. Reinvent society. I mean you got iPhones and all this crap. How hard is it to think this through?
Australia and Canada were just proxy extensions of the British Empire. Canadians served in the Napoleonic wars, Crimea, the Boer War, WW-1, WW-2 and Korea. It wasn't until Korea that the media would actually call Canadian troops Canadians.
You can ALWAYS tell when a Canadian is ranting about the evil US, they have a serious case of "penis envy". Your right, Canadian troops were referred to as "Commonwealth forces". Like the good little bitches they are, they always do as they are told, whether it be London or Washington.
if you are from the UK or EU, prepare to stfu.
Aussie eh. While I don't dispute anything you say, I have to suggest the Aussie government is even worse in that it slavishly follows the US lead in fucking EVERYTHING, including killing and maiming women and children in their millions in places far from its shores. I saw a couple of days ago in the SMH (once-great local rag) that Australia is waiting for US direction on how to respond to the Russian "provocation" in Syria. They're ready to go to war with russia to protect, err, not exactly sure what they're ready to protect, but it must be important. Israel maybe? Australia has become a pathetic lap dog, starting with Vietnam. And just like the USSA, the people support the government position in most anything.
Socratic Dog, hear hear! It is embarrassing!
The Great American Crime to historians will be what happened after 9-11 and the total victory of the terrorists. With one isolated attack they left a civilization, gone with the wind.
Mossad did 9-11. Terrerists come in a lot of shapes and sizes.
Both Mr. Banzai and rbg81 are displaying a surprising (this forum taken into account) lack of insight into the power-structures of the US empire.
I thought it was obvious to all – who pays attention – that the ‘electorate’ (especially the president) are mere pawns of a hidden (not that well hidden) power-elite. The people actually ruling US are not named in MSM (the 0,01 % - and no, that’s not anyone on the Forbes list). That US have a ‘colored president’ does not make any difference – his masters are the same.
Second: US have no real elections. An election requires an informed and educated population. US has the opposite. The medias are controlled by the 0,01%, the public education system have been eroded and made into an extension of the 0,01%’s propaganda-machine and there’s no independent think tanks and/or institutions that can help the population get informed (the absolute majority of think tanks and research institutions in US are founded and funded by and for the 0.01%). Moreover, since you got ‘Diebold’ it doesn’t matter – the votes are counted the way the 0,01% wants them to be counted.
Third: communist in what way? What’s your definition of communism? If he – I don’t listen to him – actually said anything that could be interpreted as communist it doesn’t count (he speaks nothing but BS – distractions). What political actions has he taken that you would consider ‘communist’?
+ who don’t despise USA for what it has become today? US deserves nothing but contempt – and until there’s a real revolt/revolution the US population deserves the same contempt.
I agree with your comments about our electorate--because an informed electorate would not have elected an empty suit like Barack Obama. I remember watching an episode of "Will and Grace" where Grace was fantasizing about BO being naked in her shower. That is the mindset of people (women anyway) who voted for BO. He was the handsome, light-skinned Black man they could feel safe sleeping with.
As I said, BO is a Marxist who is sympathetic to Islam and despises America. Even so, he is NOT a dictator. Given our constitutional system, there is only so much he can do, but he has been pushing the limits. A lot of what he has been doing is setting the US to be a weakened, Marxist shadow of its former self. These policies will pay big dividends in 10-20 years. Specifics? Consider the below:
-- Encouraging the importation of millions of illegals while failing to enforce existing immigration law. The endgame here is to dilute the White majority who are less enamored of Marxism than the Third Worlders.
-- Exacerbating class inequality, racial & sex divisions and encouraging hatred of the Police--all with an eye to future revolution
-- Weakening the military and ensuring our enemies (Iran) get the bomb
-- Throwing our traditional allies under the bus in favor of supporting the Muslim Brotherhood.
-- A Middle East in flames, thanks in large part to his "Arab Spring" bullshit
-- Growing the Entitlement State by leaps and bounds. Making sure people who don't work get free health-care, housing, Obama-phones, extended unemployment and/or disability. The rates of people getting disability have skyrocketed. If you think they are all really disabled, I've got a bridge to sell you. Anyone with an anchor baby or refugee status gets these benefits. Of course, the cost of the Entitlement State will eventually bankrupt America. The solution will be to install a Marixst, fascist Government to ensure "The People" are taken care of.
-- Unprecedented expansion of Executive power, aided by a compliant Media, bleeding-edge surveillance technology and neutered Congress.
-- Gun control. BO hasn't been too effective here so far, but it's not for lack of scheming. Also, his term ain't over yet.
I beg to differ BB, because I have never heard Our President say one bad thing about Kenya.
Who cares time to buy another 24 pack 2 bags of Doritos, smokes and sit on the couch and catch up on the NFL scores. After Lets play the right left paradigm about who is ahead in the polls in a selection that is over a year away
Sound Familiar
Bread and circuses
Not so sure he's a Muslim.
Might be though.
He's from the same sect as everyone else in this or any other government-- he's a Luciferian, regardless of the external trappings.
"Eight years of that will kill any empire"
Last time I checked, 8+8= 16
so we are countersunk at this point...
4+8+8+8=28, fixed it for ya. Thats almost three decades of pure shit "leadership", if that isn't enough to do it, I don't know what is!
Bullshit 11 negs Buckaroo. Simply bullshit!
Stay away from nail gun, polonium and hotel service female personnel.
400 million people.....
Where have I heard a similar number before?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones
Yep, in the Utopia series from Channel 4 in the UK the conspiring elite's plan was for 500,000,000. It's mentioned in the trailer for Series 2 here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI5h8yvHIJQ
And, again, I'll state that I have no problem with that number.
300,000,000 well-armed Americans
and you guys can figure out amongst yourselves the fairest way to allocate the other 200,000,000.
I might have to re-up my satellite dish for that.
By the time the various self-interested groups / associations have indulged in their "let's play Anarchy" turf wars, there will be a LOT less than 300 million "survivors", and with all the trappings of "Modern Civilisation" gone, the residue won't be in "fighting form" for very long.
Of course this assumes the end days of America don't include starting WW3, in which case the survivors of "The Rest of the World" may decide to settle old but fresh in their minds grievances, by paying a few very determined, very well-armed, and very motivated "visits".
Of course, but anyone over 185lbs counts for 2.
The entire world is collapsing. A new dark age. Probable extinction.
The Exponential Function
"Slide."
How did you go bankrupt?
Two ways. Gradually, then suddenly.
>> A new dark age. Probable extinction. <<
Maybe we will not be the first. Maybe this is but one reason why there are no "obvious" intelligent (by our limited standards) civilisations "out there".
Maybe the "common" end result of our "advanced" standard of "civilisation" (complete with abundant means of planetary immolation) is effective self-destruction.
What if the very few "credible" extraterrestrial sightings are in fact civilisations that have survived by "picking the bones" of civilisations like ours, whose hubris has led to self-destruction?
We cannot even assign an arbitrary probability value to this suppositon, since we simply do not know, (but if we are not careful, we may well find out soon enough!)
yup. my guess is that in developing civilizations throughout the uni technology progresses faster than the morality needed to moderate its use (see drones, fracking, nukes, etc.), resulting in self destruction.
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I have already ripped America's eyeballs out, and I have ripped America's face off. My boot is firmly pressed to America's neck via Quantum Mechanical Engineering, Quantum Behavioural Economics, and sheer knowhow on my part. And America is going down for the count on the exact timescale, and terms, postulated by Professor Emeritus Karl Marx in Das Capital, and the Communist Manifesto.
Up yours, America, resistance is futile.
Well, in my personal opinion, you are simply nuts. And we as a society should look out for your kind. Much more often than we do now. And everything you say and do on this site is being monitored by those very same fellas who you distain. Ain't life great!!!! So good luck! But I love your manical and yet jovial encouraging rants. Really, you're quantum toast! Watch out for the nailguns and stay away from tall buildings.
You have heard of Too-Big-to-fail, right?
I'm even bigger than that.
My wife, who has been involved with Doctors Without Borders albeit briefly, asked about the errant strike that killed 19+. I stated what happened. After she gasped, I went on to say that our current leadership and trajectory as a nation has to be purposeful in its fuckery and stupidity. It's willful. They HAVE to be making these stupid decisions on purpose. There is no other possible answer. No way they could be making these decisions and think they will do anything but make us weaker and less trusted if it's even possible.
I think you read too much into it. One of Kubrick's messages in Dr Stangelove was no matter how many checks you may build into a system
to prevent disaster it is nevertheless possible for something to go wrong.
That's pretty niave. You think society runs by a movie script? By some past directors "insight" into what will be? People don't put bombs down for nothing. This was a deliberate oversite on the part of the military. They fucked up. Get it through your head. People fuck up. Do you know why? Because they "THINK", they are right. Do you hear me? They "THINK" they are right. And more than often, much more, they are simply wrong. Can you understand this?
The GPS coordinates for that hospital had been given to the US months in advance. They knew it was there (probably helped build it with your money) In fact when the first bombs started falling phone calls were made to the US and NATO that they were hitting the wrong place- and guess what? The air strikes kept coming down for 30 minutes. You can go on Youtube and watch Robert Ford (john negroponte's protege) making the news circuits lately blaming the people in the hospital for not having an evacuation plan. THEY DO NOT FUCKING CARE ABOUT CIVILIAN CASUALTIES. It has nothing to do with fucking up. A handful of Kissinger quotes come to mind.
Some US "intelligence" stooge called the hospital strike in; I'm only surprised that it wasn't reported as a humanitarian cleansing of some turrible bacteria that had taken hold @ that hospital. I mean, there is no telling how many lives such a strike would save.
Well, it is very coincidental that less than 24 hours after 'the taliban' shot down a cargo plane carrying 'contractors' (CIA?), the hospital was bombed. There is more to this story than we know. Regardless, it still shows basially one thing which is that governments everywhere are out of control.
a fuckup would be if they bombed the opium wharehouse.
"a fuckup would be if they bombed the opium wharehouse."
Yes, indeed, it would be...
"Rumors," that's a good one.
Every good Marxist knows that absent religion, a country needs opiates for its masses. . .
"...No way they could be making these decisions and think they will do anything but make us weaker and less trusted if it's even possible..."
It would be most unhelpful to think of the actions of any branch of the U.S. government or military today as being in the interests of the people they serve. You can be certain that psychopaths running the U.S. (many groups with overlapping, occasionally competing but generally complementary interests) are in TOTAL control, and the organizations have morphed to serve ONLY psychopathic leaders, not normal ones. Arguing about which specific group of psychopaths is at the top of the heap or what their motivations are is also totally meaningless - it just doesn't matter. THAT isn't the problem.
The real problem is that the machinery of all of these government organizations has been fundamentally changed to serve only psychopathic leaders. They can no longer accomodate a 'normal' leader in any sense of the word. Replacing the heads of every one of these organizations today wouldn't work - the organizations themselves would reject a 'normal' person in charge and would oppose them at every turn or simply drive them out. It's well past the point of just getting 'the right' leaders in place.
The U.S. is on psychopath auto-pilot. There are no personal consequences for 'bad' decisions by those in charge of our government organizations. The leaders are making the exact same kind of decisions that every other failing empire has made during its decline since forever.
Perceptions of strength/weakness or trust/distrust are immaterial to the psychopaths in charge, as long as everybody seems to obey them. They're in a desperate scramble to maintain their OWN illusion of control before things go full-retard - they could care less what anyone else thinks of them or their decisions today.
too many government entities rely on debt funding to exist, and debt can go to the moon in the USA, so they are bloodthirsty to keep sucking it as fast as it can until it all drained for good.. they KNOW the host will die so they contiune and the last drops of blood taste as good as the first
Homeland security was a booming new industry in this fucked up vampiric economy since all of it was new budgets to be lobbied
what's next?? some chemical attack on the population to bring into more new gov debt paid industries to give out gas masks?
Don't give them any ideas...
Agree, but just imagine living in most European Countries and knowing that the end of your ancient culture is only a few decades away due to the psychopathy of your "leaders".
Being surrounded by a warlike, mean-spirited and superstitious clan of early humans and NO way out whatsoever.
At least Amurica has no actual culture of its own, so it won't be much missed once its gone.
Still, it is kind of sad to think that the future's pop music will mostly be out of Asia. Maybe the Latinos can up their game.
"They HAVE to be making these stupid decisions on purpose. There is no other possible answer."
Here is one theory on why the MSF hospital was bombed:
I'm grateful there are still a few people left like Mr Wilkerson who are willing to tell the truth.
Col. Wilkerson sould choke on the truth like a fish bone and I'd watch with a broad smile. - Ned
The tug of war for the constitution between democracy and oligarchy has been won by oligarchy. The demagogues are arriving and tyranny is on the way.
It's ain't over 'till the fat lady sings.
The Fat Lady sang at an outdoor Opera when Lehman Bros., declared Chapter 11 bankruptcy. She sang a rendition of Offenbach.
Have you seen the size of the average American? There's millions of fat ladies singing.
It never ends. It just changes.
Yes, it's enormously depressing to see so many psychopaths mobilized in the service of 'the state'. But at least we are getting a good look at the enemy.
Say, I do have this funny feeling about Donald Trump....
We have known for 10 years. A socially engineered event. I hope they push the envelope.
300+ million legal American people will have a gun shoved in the month of DC and K-Street assholes. We will use the same MIC protocol, remove the tyrant US administration crippling our country.
Can you hear us US President Barry Soetoro?
Don't dispear. The TTIP/TPP network will make you emperor once again - for a little while. Once the design weaves its real magic, i.e. impoverishing everyone else in the network except for you, you will find it difficult to find costomers. You won't even find customers in China because the network is designed to contain China. EU - choked from refugee costs. India - never wakes up. Russia - self sufficient and small. Enjoy your short phase in the light.
The Processes and Logic of The Deep State - Professor Peter Dale Scott
Unusually, just a single speaker this week: one two hour interview with the doyen of deep political research, Canadian Professor Peter Dale Scott. He provides not only a lot of details of the evolution of the post WW2 deep state in the USA, but also sketches out its guiding principles, some of the deeper patterns which allow one to understand the superficially confusing and contradictory actions of the US deep state.
Access show here: http://thenewsdoctors.com/?p=516544
JFK spoke truth to power.
No one since in any position of power dares.
All over but the final expiration date.
Ditto. We're screwed.
Why are the drums beating about the empire collapse if he really thinks global warming is true. I just don't get the hysteria that the elite keep trying in pushing global warming. If global warming is true, fuck it, push the red button already. But wait, we can't do that, it will mess up the new monetary confiscation ponzi scheme called global warming.