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An Up Close And Personal Look At The Russian Firepower Deployed In Syria
As Moscow’s air campaign in Syria enters its sixth day, both the West and The Kremlin have put their respective media propaganda machines into overdrive.
In many respects, the geopolitical stakes for both sides are the highest they’ve been in decades. The West cannot afford to stand by and watch Russia do in a matter of weeks what the US has failed to accomplish in 13 months. Put simply: if Moscow declares victory over ISIS within the next month or two (and that appears as likely as not), Washington will be left to explain to a bewildered public what just happened. To the uninitiated, it will appear as though Russia’s military is far superior to the US Army when it comes to fighting terror and on top of that, Iran’s now well publicized role will not only cast further doubt on the nuclear deal, but will also raise questions about the contention that Tehran is committed to financing and exporting terror.
For Russia, the powerplay in Syria represents nothing short of a return to the world stage after decades of flying below the radar as a second rate superpower. Putin has now proven that Moscow can project its influence with virtual impunity and as Monday’s “accidental” violation of Turkish airspace suggests, The Kremlin is getting more brave by the day in the face of what certainly looks like a de facto surrender by the West.
All of the above presents a real challenge when it comes to analyzing the conflict. That is, with both sides in full-on spin mode, getting at the truth is even more difficult than it would normally be in an East vs. West standoff and while US foreign policy is something of an easy target when it comes to pointing out hypocrisy and outright incompetence, one also has to be careful to avoid taking the Russian line at face value because after all, this is all just a contest to control the narrative and thus to help determine how history will remember the Syrian civil war.
With all of that said, watching Russia effectively humiliate the West by bragging day in and day out is nothing if it’s not amusing, and indeed, as we said on Sunday, the leaked diplomatic cable from 2006 which outlines Washington’s intent to effectively start a civil war in Syria leaves one completely uninclined to be at all sympathetic to the ridiculous situation the US and its allies have found themselves in and on that note, we present the following rundown from Sputnik and RT, respectively, of just what type of hardware Moscow is using on the way to routing anti-regime elements in Syria.
Of course one could easily create a similar profile for Washington's military hardware with the only difference being that the US likes to perpetuate the myth that there's a degree of separation between the Army, the government, and weapons manufacturers.
From Sputnik:
A wide range of missiles and bombs equipped with advanced guidance systems are currently being used by Russia in its air campaign against Islamic State militants in Syria.
During precision airstrikes, Russian weaponry is launched from high altitudes to evade mobile air-defense systems.
The precision bombs typically use the GLONASS navigation system to destroy targets, the Russian developed alternative to GPS, whereas missiles are guided by a weapons system operator.
The precision weapons include is the KAB guided bomb, which includes two modifications such as KAB-250 and KAB-500.The KAB-250 bomb was designed in the 2000s for the Russian fifth generation PAK-FA fighter jet. Its distinctive egg-shaped form can be explained by the fact that this bomb is mounted in inside the plane's bays.
The bomb is also used by advanced Russian warplanes, including the Su-34 bombers, which are currently taking part in the air operation in Syria. The aircraft drop these bombs on Islamic State targets from an altitude of 5,000 meters.
The concrete-piercing BETAB-500 bombs are equipped with a jet booster, which allows the bombs to completely destroy any underground installation.
From RT:
The Su-34 is a strike fighter and the most modern aircraft to take part in Russia’s operation against Islamic State in Syria.
Its development began in the mid-’80s as a replacement for the Su-24, with the country’s military receiving the first batch of new warplanes in 2006.
The jet is designed for the supersonic penetration of enemy airspace at treetop level in the most severe weather and battle conditions.
The two-pilot strike fighter is sometimes referred to as ‘a flying tank’ due to an armored cockpit and efficient standoff weapons, which enable it to survive not only missile fragments, but even direct hits from small caliber arms.
The Su-24 is a tactical bomber meant to fly below the radar and hit ground targets from low altitudes. The military wanted the plane to have short take-off and landing capabilities to so that it could be used on small airfields.
An early prototype had four turbojet engines that complemented two main engines during take-off. The scheme, however, proved to be very inefficient, so instead designers gave it variable-sweep wings.
The plane first entered service in the early 1970s. A decade later a better variant called Su-24M with a different radar and targeting equipment needed for more precise weapons was introduced. This model is the backbone of Russia’s tactical bomber. Sukhoi continues upgrading the aircraft.
Su-25 is another Russian Air Force work horse, introduced in early 1980s. The jet was designed for close air support – that is, to directly help ground forces engage the enemy.
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We have Obama.
Scares the hell out of me.
"the Russian developed alternative to GPS"
Is this because in a real SHTF situation the Russian's plan on taking out the GPS Satellites? They wouldn't really consider doing that would they? lol
China's been testing anti-satellite weapons. In WW3 there will be no satellites at all.
Which means all you little sheeples at home might want to reconsider a lifestyle that depends on all of that shit being streamed into your lives on a daily basis.....
GI ISIS should be scared. We have lost our moral compass a loooong time ago and are now on SATAN's self-chosen War Criminals team. And we have the dual passports to HELL to prove it.
Please do not equate the capabilities of the U.S. military with that of Down Low Barry.
U.S. armed forces jump to the tune of CINC, including playing paddy cake with ISIS.
That is just the way our system works.
If unleashed, the U.S. military would lay waste to any opponent in short order.
This is the way they train. They are just not utilized in this capacity.
It is clear few of those who post on this site in the evening have any military experience.
Most sound like whiny little bitches.
I like how their aircraft techs are armed. Well done - no beaurocracy there.
this post misses the point. The point isn't russia's hardware, which isn't any more impressive than anything we have. The point is the russians are actually TRYING to get rid of 'ISIS', and are therefore able to do so. While the JSF is overpriced junk, Americans hardware has consistenly beaten russian hardware in every conflict they have faced each other. This isn't a hoo-rah, 'murika post at all. the reason US weapons and air power havent decisively defeated ISIS is becasue that is not what the US govt wants to do, it wants them to succeed and get rid of assad. Any modern nation can destroy ISIS from the air, the russians are just actually trying to do where the US was more interested in another misguided attempt at regime change.
Technologically, most American Hardware may be ahead of the Russian equivalents,but lag when it comes maintaining it during extended battle conditions. Russian tech is designed to be very tough, versatile and fixable under battle conditions. In the Ukraine, for example, 50 and 60 year old artillery pieces still function despite heavy continuous use.
The gubmint is still trying to explain what happened in Vietnam and Korea.
It's nice to have a government and media you can trust. At least I imagine it would be. Case in point.
https://youtu.be/5wWvxXlhAms
US has participated in only one major war successfully so far. Against Germany. I say "participated" because the victory over Germany was fought out mainly by the Russians. US would never EVER have managed to prevail. In short, the US has NEVER fought a serious war against a serious enemy. From WWII forth, US has fought exclusively under conditions of absolute domination of the air space and has always chosen to destroy from the air indiscriminately, thereby causing 20-40 millions of civilian casualties, depending on how one counts.
In Syria, the western forces would be blown to smithereens the moment they tried to enter the game. Therefore the west will try to figure out other ways to undermine Russia's clean-up mission, in all likelihood engaging via proxies. The war in Syria will last for years if not decades as it is there where history has chosen one of the major superpower pissing contests to take place.
Are the Russians going to turn it up to '11'? You know, when you need that extra kick.
Rubio told CNBC he is willing to take it to 12 if he gets in. So we are now fighting over who fights for Syria. Unbelievable. Eh.
I just wish I could hear Jan PShitaki say” “Oh, the Russians ain’t doin crap over there… next question…”. but she's faded into the rectum of DC now.
I turned on the teevee just now. Dad must've left it on Fox last (god knows why). Holy moly - they are pushing this like f*king warmongering kooks. They are calling for "Cold War 2.0." Watching this Kelly lady saying "our adversaries", finding herself being a f*cking bigot and correcting herself with the utmost demeaning body language, "our adversaries as most see it"... gross. She's a hottie though. Ok, enough of this gayness. *switch to Souch Park*
Carly "The Bloodthirsty" Fiorino will match Rubio and raise him to 15!
South Park is off to a great start this year! "Fuck 'em all to death!"
"The gubmint is still trying to explain what happened in Vietnam and Korea". I can help out: Millions of killed civilians with many of them burned alive, countries destroyed, Result: Two lost wars.
"The technical superiority of the USS". You mean that superiority the world had the opportunity to admire on that September day when 19 cave men who were known to the CIA were allowed to hijiack air planes and steer them into two high-rises causing all three of them to collapse?
Actually, our hardware is a lot better, as our the boys who deliver it both on the ground and in the air. But you're right, we have a bunch of politicians who pick targets, play for PR points, avoid PR problems at all costs. How long did Barry wait to send in the boys to get Osama? (heck, 8 months just to get his facsimile shows you how bad it's gotten).
Turn 'em loose and then you would see some shock and awe!
My only concern is supplies. Back in '93 we are down to how many Tomahawks? Remember they destroyed the tooling to make them before they had the next one ready to roll out. Reliance on high tech weaponry is fine and dandy, until you need 100x more than you thought you would. Then it's back to mass production of whatever you can get to shake off the wing.
"Actually, our hardware is a lot better,"
It is certainly a great deal more expensive. The problem is that the defense contractors and the military officers monitoring them control the narrative on how good our weapons might be. You really have no clue until you encounter another capable opponent and run the equipment in the fog of actual war.
So much of our defense budget is spent maintaining clearly obsolete equipment and base structure (shades of General Pershing's horse cavalry at the outbreak of WWII - my father was there at the time) including all surface naval vessels which would be destroyed in a few days in any war against China or Russia. Also, half the military bases in the U.S. are really nothing more than glorified jobs programs. And most of the many foreign U.S. bases are nothing more than U.S. soldiers as goats tethered to the stake as bait to provoke attack and obtain an excuse for war with the nations they surround. I know, I was in that position many years ago in Berlin and nothing has changed.
We are thus the empire of the unready, shackled by the past and lead by fools.
The USA is lagging (sadly) in the electronic protection feild.
Currently the Russians have a capability (proven) to block F22 raptor short and long distance missiles, They have another more frightening tool which scares the hell out of the Pentagon
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html
oh and something comes to mind about lead pencils continuing to work well because of simplicity - well that again is mandated in all Russian weaponary.....
Horseshit.
If you consider Voltairenet, a liberal Fwench rag, authoritative, you really need to wake up.
The U.S. excels at electronic warfare, in both offensive systems as well as countermeasures.
Time to loosen your skinny jeans.
They are cutting off circulation to your brain.
I dunno... google "magrav technology".
Who's on the right side of this? America funded and supported Al Quaeda, and then allowed the Israelis to false flag 9/11. Now, the CIA funds ISIS, complete with fake beheading videos, produced by an Israeli/dual citizen woman.
The US fomented the Syrian civil war, as well as the Ukranian civil war.
This is all pretty evil and fucked up, NTM Iraq, Afghanistan, (Kunduz), etc.
In the "let's do evil and fucked up things to other nations" race, the Russians are seriously lagging behind the US. They are not even close to having the same evil and fucked up fake NGO troublemakers, or the sophistiation of an Orwellian media propaganda system, or the ability to prop up evil and fucked up regimes, or to replace one evil and fucked up regime with total chaos and anarchy.
Yep, the US is definitely ahead in the evil department. Not that the Russians are not capable. They just haven't caught up yet.
The chosenites have countermeasures for all US and Russian technology which their jew scientist spies ALWAYS betray the goy.
American equipment, for the most part is very, very good. The best there is in many cases. However, most of it is also extremely maintenance intensive, which of course requires solid logistical support. Russian gear is generally super tough, reliable, and easy to service in the field.
Flying pianos are the future of combat. With the F35 the US has the best flying piano in the world. No doubt. The Russians are decades behind the US when it comes to the flying piano strategy. The Iwan doesn't even have plans for it.
(P.S. Are you sure you know what you're talking about?)
The moment you hear that the Russians have moved some Su-35s anywhere in Syria, better start worry. It means the Ruskies are ready to kick American ass, and yes, that includes the much acclaimed F-22 which is, lest we forget, '80s technology...
You say that the USA excels at electronic warfare??? Then you know absolutely nothing.
Gen Hodges acknowledged that US troops are learning from Ukrainians about Russia's jamming capability, its ranges, types and the ways it has been employed. He has previously described the quality and sophistication of Russian electronic warfare as "eye-watering."
Buckhout (former chief of the US Army's electronic warfare division) said that the US lacks a significant electronic attack capability. "We have great signals intelligence, and we can listen all day long, but we can't shut them down one-tenth to the degree they can us," she said. "We are very unprotected from their attacks on our network."
Konstiantyn Liesnik, an adviser to the Defense Ministry's reform office and head of its working group for logistics and procurement, noted the US military's experience in recent years has concerned insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan, not a powerful, organized and well-equipped adversary like Russia. "The future of war is in the Ukraine, and I think in this case our experience is very important to US personnel how war should be in this century and next century," Liesnik said.
http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/policy-budget/warfare/2015/08/0...
And hey, how 'bout dat Palladium?
I wish I had a mess o that shit right now.
Actualy no, US military goods aren't better than Russian. Both have limits and draws. What the US is afraid of is the fact that Russia has the capability one to negate their advantages and two of course nukes. Remember during the second gulf war we went nuts when Russia was giving Sadam Hussien devices that scrambled cruise missiles guidence systems and others using GPS. Also Russia has advanced anti-tank weaponry that can destroy and at least disable our M1 tanks. And many of their stuff that they sell or use is old or was developed back in the 80's or 90's. Same with the US.
GC. Agree. The US military is used to protect the USD which has been abused globally, and the interests of a global corporate elite, not to defend a sovereign nation state it's stated purpose.
But the US has never had to face modern Russian hardware in the hands of Russians, in a war between the US and Russia. That's the difference. You can't judge the inferiority or otherwise of Russian hardware in the hands of Serbs or Iraqis or whoever else. That's the stuff Russia exports. It's not the top-of-the-range stuff Russia keeps for itself. Reserve your judgement for the day US fighter jets face S-500 and S-400 SAMs in the hands of Russians, not S-300s in the hands of Iraqis. Reserve your judgement for the day the US military faces Smerch, or the Su-34, or SATAN, or the Armata, or Spetsnaz. In other words, reserve your judgement for the day the US military is up against the Russian military and not second-rate proxies of Russia. Something that has not yet happened.
I think you wil find that a different matter completely.
If things ever get this far along, it won't be long before ICBM's are flying over the north pole.
Would you care to list the conflicts in which the US and either Russia or the USSR have faced each other? Remember, Russia was not involved in Korea. Or are you talking about times the up to date US military took off obsolete Russian hardware as in Gulf War I? Vassals do not get the latest and greatest.
Even junk has value to somebody. One man's trash...
Americans hardware has consistenly beaten russian hardware in every conflict they have faced each other.
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I often hear this myth. Before the war in Vietnam, this myth has been very popular. But the reality looks different. In Vietnam, "obsolete" Soviet MIG kick ass, "the latest" American Phantoms with a score of almost 2 to 1. This a score to losses in dogfights. Keep in mind that these wins the Vietnamese pilots who had little experience. If in the sky of Vietnam were Russian pilots , the score in favor of the MiG-s would be 1: 3 or 1: 4.
It is one thing to fight against the old Soviet weapons to the armies of Iraq or Libya. And quite another thing to fight against the new Russian weapons, which Russian army owns right now.
god damn, some of yall are dense. you miss my point entirely. My point is that the central theme of this isn't "awesome russian hardware" although Im sure it is super awesome.... the point is that they are actually TRYING to accomplish heir stated mission, unlike the US military. If/when russia does wipe them off the mat, it will be because they make a determined effort to do so, not because their equipment is any better than ours or any other moedern nations.
The other point is how it will be spun by the us govt if russia really does wipe them out. They will be in a difficult position and look stupid as hell no matter what, which is why Im hoping the russians succeed. They will either have to admit that they weren't really trying to defeat their stated enemy and were more interested in regime change, and just using ISIS as a scare tactic to keep the sheep scared, or they will have to say that the military is full of overpriced junk that doesn't work near as good as claimed. In reality, both of those things are true, but thats not something the obama admin is going to admit to.
...not something the obama admin is going to admit...
I get your point and agree. The use of "volunteers" in the US military is similar to college atheletes, (or the Oakland Athletics for that matter.) It's training for when the recruit can go to work for the Saudi's and get the "big bucks". That's the carrot that's held out in front of the most promising performers. So of course the US is hesitant to go in and end the careers of these professionals that graduated from the ranks of volunteer status to the big league of professional mercinary. And not only that but after they've played for awhile they can look forward to joining the ranks of the coaching profession. There's even been those who've gone all the way to superstar Michael Jordan / Nolan Ryan ownership status.
Problem here is this is not a game, it's not entertainment, and anyone that enjoys the brutal realities of combat are a greater liability than an asset.
jmo.
Divine Fart is Chelsea Manning.
And perhaps should be renamed "Passing Wind".
My Indian name is "Ancient Wind".
You might be right, but the key sentence in your comment is "U.S. armed forces jump to the tune of CINC, including playing paddy cake with ISIS." As long as bathhouse Barry is carrying out his orders it looks like paddy cake is all your military is going to do down there. These concisciousless bastards have ruined the US reputation down in the ME and now look at what it looks like. Russia threatening a naval blockade? Those bad ass army men better go home and get their cocks out of the fridge.
I think what you mean is that most of us have enough sense (and self-worth) to find better career paths.
Terrorist USSA cannot build shit ! ALL all their stuff is a complete failure, the F-22 is too expensive, and not as good as they think, the F-35 smoking joint fighter (which is modelled after the Russian Yak – 141) is a complete money trap for the people building it, last I heard, it had 700+ problems to resolve, Hahahaha. The Littoral Class Freedom (if you can believe them calling anything this!) as well as the Zumwalt (very N4Zi sounding) navy vessels is the same as the F-35, just the sea version, it is so unsafe that even the navy will not guarantee the survival of the crew, on both! Hahahaha.
The latest beach landing craft they are making is a joke, it looks and moves like pre WWI. Serious, look it all up, it’s the UHAC (Ultra Heavy-lift Amphibious Connector) Quite a fancy name for a floating elephant/turd. All three sea vessels are floating coffins.
http://sputniknews.com/military/20150313/1019429096.html
Medium News: F’d: How the world got stuck with the World’s worst new combat aircraft.
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/fd-how-the-u-s-and-its-allies-got-stuck-with-the-worlds-worst-new-warplane-5c95d45f86a5
Littoral Combat Ship Will Be Modified, If Not Replaced
http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/archive/2014/August/Pages/LittoralCombatShipWillBeModifiedIfNotReplaced.aspx
Can the Navy's $12 Billion Stealth Destroyer Stay Afloat?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/22/can-the-navy-s-12-billion-stealth-destroyer-stay-afloat.html
LA Times: The Pentagon's $10 billion radar doesn't work
http://fortruss.blogspot.co.at/2015/04/la-times-pentagons-10-billion-radar.html
DOT&E Report: The F-35 Is Not Ready for IOC and Won't Be Any Time Soon
http://www.pogo.org/our-work/straus-military-reform-project/weapons/2015/not-ready-for-prime-time.html
Delivery of Troubled Zumwalt Stealth Destroyers Delayed for US Navy
http://sputniknews.com/news/20150311/1019322119.html#ixzz3hMaZuxHS
A small list af articles I have saved, every now and again I get inspired to add more onto the list, but it is telling. NO ?
US military is filled with undisciplined ghetto and white trash.
To be frank Russia is still using some of its older stuff like the Su25s and su24 nice heavy fighter/bomber but which is being replaced by those awesome duckbill su34s but some of that old stuff still proved pretty effective in Ukraine.
I mean who we kidding, if Russia wanted to they could level the whole place in 3 months with those Tupolev 22s and T95s and some moabs and thats still conventional. God help us all is one of those SATAN missles was ever used, the deadliest fastest nuke of all. I even hate the sound of that wicked weapons name. Moscow to Ny in 25min, not enough time to find a good rock to crawl under. Noone would survive the response which makes this whole endeavor of poking the sleeping bear even more insane.
This article came by my screen today and they supposedly moved two of these bad boys in place. An interesting piece to say the least. with a range of 300km I think from what I seen in Ukranine these might have been turned on for a second or two behind the border in Russia to give some of those battles a little bump but who knows, I dont think anyone can prove.
I think its things like this that they are bitching about and shitting bricks because most of the ground troops look to be to protect an airbase that is operating 25km from hostile forces. Lets see the US do that. Impressive feat in itself
And why use Russians when you have plenty of hezbolla, Iranian, and Syrians willing to do the diry work. It would be stupid.
Jamming the Jihad. can permanently fry electronics and take out low orbit satelites.
http://sputniknews.com/world/20151005/1028033057/syria-russia-electronic...
The Eurofighter is the best plane in the world and yet recently it was beaten in a dogfight by a 25 year old F16.
It all depends on the pilot flying the plane.
I watched personally a General Giap whip in rapid succession, half the worlds major Powers with nothing more than a bunch of worn out obsolete Soviet equipment and guerilla fighters. Sometimes toys mean JAck.
France-Kicked their ass
US- Kicked our ass-,(most would not Believe what we pounded that place with)
China thought they wanted some next- Kicked the crap out of them and then when over to Cambodia and kicked the crap out of the Kymer Rouge just for good measure.
Baddest General the world has ever KNown- respect
Eat your heart out Mcarther and Patton, your mere babes.
But yes that Eurofighter is nice, I think you guys should stick with it. Its a winner. And the old F16 is the best fighter we ever made IMO
Stealth technology for fighters is absolutely a dead end. It makes the plane too heavy and non aerodynamic for tight maneuvers. So agreed, the f15-18 are still the best US fighter aircraft.
It is also a waste of time trying to make a fighter with vertical take off/landing. When you try to cram every capability into one airframe you get a plane that is okay at everything but great at nothing. That may be fine against shitty little dictators, but not against the top tier.
Maybe we ought dial up ole Mac McCain and send him to the flight deck to handle business.
I don't think it was anything to do with the Typhoon (Euro fighter) the RAF pilots in question were trained in stand off engagements not close range dogfights. But it does say something about the lack of training of these pilots, what happens when the missiles run out and they have to go to guns. I wonder what would have happened if the pilots swapped planes, then we would know the true capabilities.
Does anyone get the impression that the Russians and Putin do not give a shit about Manpads, Tomahawks, other countries fighters or pretty much anything else? Also maybe the whole battle field for ISIS has no working electronic communications and any satellite phones will get greased.
I am getting the feeling that the Russian ECM, Radar and missiles are much better than the US is letting on. Putin made some comments on an RT interview a few years ago. He said the USA treated us like idiots and let us play with our junk military equipment. He laughed about it but their was a tinge of anger and bitterness too. He chuckled because he probably knew about capabilities the world did not know about. I think they worked very hard naking their missiles, ECM and fighters top of the line for 10 years.
This supposed retired Col Jack Jacobs saying Russia has Syrian airspace locked down and no one wants to go near it. They also have the ground based radars, ECM and whatever networked with their ships. It was not just the S400s too. It was more. Something the USA was not expecting. Almost like there is an electronic blanket over Syria's airspace. Anything that enters will get shot down and possibly get all their electronics screwed.
My worry is the USA will send one of those F-22s coming from Hawaii into Syrian airspace and it gets greased.
Freddie, there is really nothing the US can do. Russia was invited into Syria, so they own the airspace. The US has never directly engaged Russia. The cold war was always about proxies. They won't go further now.
The best the US can do now is try to arm the rebels with AA missiles. This turned the tide in Afghanistan, but will be very difficult in Syria.
Now we hear that Saudi is threatening Russia with terrorist groups. We heard the same threats before the sochi olympics. The russians will not forget these threats. I would not want to be one of those cock sucking princes right now.
Naw. They, like the PRC, just wanted to be independent from the US Satnav/GPS Fleet of which the unclassified xmissions side may be "detuned" or shut down with a mouseclick.
The the GPS sats get taken out, how will my girlfriend navigate home from work or get to the grocery store?
Has anyone else had problems with the GPS on their Sat Navs recently, it seems like there a fewer sats available or they are just not there anymore?
Current Events Linked to Ancient Biblical Prophecy!
http://motivationdose.com/is-america-babylon/
Current Events Linked to Ancient Biblical Prophecy!
http://motivationdose.com/is-america-babylon/
Current Events Linked to Ancient Biblical Prophecy!...
Ya know, I've been in the Christian church for over 55 years and this tripe is among the most deceitful, self-serving and rightfully ridiculed bane associated with Christianity in existence. The apostle John’s Revelation of Jesus has been used since the reformation to incite and justify much of the world’s most sinful conduct in every generation since written language became more accessible to common people. It was used for the same purposes before that, but mainly among those with the wealth and acumen to learn written communications.
For the record, John describes the state of spiritual warfare that has and is currently underway from seven different perspectives. They’re all the same story. The story ends with Jesus continuing to reign in a place not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. Period.
The word spirit means unseen. So, for the spiritual Babylon and the spiritual Jerusalem to have their meaning as physical locations on the earth is an appalling misunderstanding and root of why Christianity has gone so terribly astray, especially in the USA. Those in leadership positions have led their flocks into political paths that have nothing to do with eternal salvation and have instead replaced what should be a highly personal and growing relationship with a Savior into these ridiculous claims of having secret knowledge of the end of time.
Their demise cannot come soon enough.
Jmo.
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Barry's in the bath house mixin' up rooms 9 and 10,
I'm on the pavement thinkin' about Putin
And the riot squad it's restless, they need somewhere to go.
http://www.metrolyrics.com/desolation-row-lyrics-bob-dylan.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL1HUsJJCzU
Major Interview (38 questions!) of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to the Iranian Khabar TV channelhttp://thesaker.is/major-interview-38-questions-of-syrian-president-bashar-al-assad-to-the-iranian-khabar-tv-channel/
@Five8Charlie
If you like your Obama, you can keep your Obama.
We have Obama.
Scares the hell out of me.?...
What exactly scares you the most? The part about starting unilateral wars for the last 14 years that got us into this mess?... Or the fact that somebody else like Russia's military is going to take charge to clean up that mess and in the end show us just how bad we really are along with the crisis we made "refugees" and otherwise!
Ode to the American clandestine establishment that thought John McCain, "Fairy" Graham and Retired General Vallely were the worst of your problems!...
Adding to that part about how bad "we" the U.S. really is...
This certainly caught my attention....
Russians will be targeting “command and control centers, ammunition and explosives warehouses, communication centers, mini-factories for the production of weapons of suicide bombings and militant training camps“. ...
Just think how Syrians and Iraqis will think of the Russians when suicide bombers and IED stop going off in those places that have already killed upwards of 10,000 to 15,000 Iraqis in the past 8 months alone and who knows how many of the 240,000 Syrians that have perished in the last 3 years alone to them?...
Like I said. I sure hope there are no Blackwater/Xi/ Academi types wandering about the ground right about now in either of those countries doing this on a weekly basis and finally getting caught?!! at it!
It will be just like the roundups by Ukrainian rebels they suffered at the end of 2014 where many of them were shot in the back of the head and put into an open pit with no headstone or marker to claim them again!
To President Obama and the rest of the freaks in the "Land of the Free Home of the Brave" that can do this repeatedly for years and still sleep at night!
Mr. Putin! Do your stuff. Because at this point you are doing God's work!!!
we have Monday night football and draft king.
we have Monday night football and draft king.
Sukhoi translated "Fuck Obama big time"
BOOM!!!
War Porn.
Christmas 2015
https://vimeo.com/18781528
Nah, that was all sort-of 1960.
It's been another half-century since then. The technology has gotten better. Not the nukes, but the delivery systems. And the numbers. Nothing will survive this time.
Unleash the Magic Negro!!
The Magic Negro has no clothes....
Are you speaking of Orambo?
SU-34 is a BEAST! Aren't you glad we have this?:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/31/new-u-s-stealth-jet-can...
But bunch of saber rattling garbage anyway- gotta have something ready for when the world econ tanks I suppose. lolerskates.
F-35: An unglodly amount of money with a single engine and one heavily overworked crewmember. Oh, and it can't accelerate or turn very well. Having all the weapons internal meant lots of bulges around the fuselage and wing root. It buffets and vibrates in even a mild turn. The SU-34 has two engines and two crew. Think of it as an F-111 with the bugs worked out.
Hold on now!
That's an example of the finest H1-B programming Lockheed Martin could import, since they didn't want to hire AMERICAN --- Typical Traitorous American slimescumbags!
If those Poonjabbis can't program, it must be the American workers' fault, right, traitor scum at Lockheed Martin?
BTW, who actually owns Lockheed?
Any guesses???
In my small business, I see a fair number of young H1-B workers in prime US defense industry corporations in the nearby metro area. I don't deal in computer code, so they may be good at writing it, I can't say, but I do deal on a very personal level with these Indians and Pakis, and let me say, they are fucking idiots, and even unstable. I wouldn't allow them to fix a flat tire, let alone write code for America's major defense contractors.
With all respect, perhaps it takes unstable fucking idiots to write code (who else would want to do it) in which case the Indians and Pakistanis you have seen may be the best and brightest in the code-writing racket.
I can tell you, from first hand experience, that Indians and Pakistanis cannot write code to save their lives. Object Oriented programming concepts escape them, set-based operations in database might as well be instructions on getting to the centre of the Earth. Just have a look at the inane, entry level questions asked on sites like StackOverflow, and these are the people being used to code systems and applications for "developed" nations.
Anecdotal: I've performed quite a few code reviews in the last 15 years, and I know for a fact that a lot of this outsourced code contains snippets copied straight from the web. Even the comments are exactly the same.
It does, however, take a special kind of person to look at their world as being comprised of objects, methods and properties.
The best CIO I know asked me: "what does INDIA stand for"
Answer: I'll Never Do It Again
Ditto for my experiences. The H1-b wogs and chinks write terrible code, don't understand instuctions, can't work with anybody, and fake much of their work.
But management doesn't know better and likes them for some reason. Good for me, though. Easy money competing with them.
TopCoder rankings:
http://community.topcoder.com/tc?module=AlgoRank
Russians and Russian schooled dominate....
I don't remember seeing Indian or Paki ever
During the Cold War they couldn't get top-performing hardware...so the code they wrote had to be compact and elegant and fast
Add to the F-35, ahem, little downsides that, to save space, its fuel tanks are wrapped around its engine, which means if it flies at a proper speed or through lightning, its fuel tanks can explode due to engine heat. It can't fly after sitting in the sun, either, what with the fuel getting warm.
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-f-35-cant-run-on-warm-gas-from-a-fu...
The F-35 is a QE program for Lookheed.
Always has been.
F-35 has a lot in common with the new SF Bay bridge. Expensive almost for the sake of it and FUBAR.
Amen. That POS bridge even has a $4 Million glass elevator-with-a-v9iew that runs on angled tracks; it already failed, natch.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Another-problem-for-new-Bay-Bridge...
A $4 million elevator intended to take maintenance workers and well-connected investor-tourists to the top of the signature tower on the new Bay Bridge eastern span failed after just a few uses, and Caltrans is trying to figure who will pay the bill, The Chronicle has learned . . .
Posted this in the other thread. New wrinkle for F35 pilots to worry about.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3260675/Pilots-eject-new-350bill...
Not to be too much of a dick, but what the fuck do you know about shit? As a pilot, I flew side by side with Russian aircrews for 2 years. Their aircraft are pieces of shit. Everything looks chiseled out of steel. We joked that their mechanics used a different sized hammer to fix anything. The Russian mechanics would literally drool over our machines.
Don't over glorify Russian equipment. It works most of the time, but it's not in the same class or even world as US aircraft. I witnessed two catostrophic failures (crashes) with the Russian aircraft. Why do you think Aeroflot switched to Boeing?
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/customers/aeroflot/
Oh and having all of the weapons inside on a F35 REMOVES parasitic drag numb nuts. Again, STFU you don't know how to fly nor anything about the topic.
From your descripton you seem to be referring to Russian transport aircraft, both military and civilian. It seems hasty to compare transport aircraft to combat aircraft. Since Russia (and the USSR) didn't have to worry about marketing it's proposed wares to politicians, they could be designe to be good enough for a required task and not one bit better. Saves money, saves design time, saves construction time.
Your experience with Russian fighter/bomber aircraft would be welcome.
The Russian T-34 wasn't in the same class as the German Tiger II in WWII, and yet it was good enough to kick the living stuffing out of the Krauts. Mig-21 wasn't in the same class as F-4 Phantom in Vietnam, yet it managed to fight it off quite successfully. When it comes to modern planes, the only "class" where the Russians are missing against US is the PRICE class. They could build 3 of theirs for one of ours (top of the line), and that's about it, since we are already bankrupt and could hardly afford newer toys.
As the F-35 goes, the poor thing has the flying characteristics of a glorified flat iron, mostly because is has too little lifting surface (meaning too little LIFT). Add to that a single engine (running super-hot most of the time) and there's your winning dog ! Parasitic drag means shit in these conditions... numb-nuts !
But what about the TR-3B?
I had one of those in high school. It had the electric overdrive and was a kick to go around a corner in 2nd over drive, and then nail the throttle and simultaneously flick the overdrive off. The rear end would break loose and a drift would ensue. we're talkin' 50 years ago, my friend.
I remember getting my ass kicked in my MGB GT by just such a rust bomb.
Better clean up the farce SAP, you have company
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wKqEv67nw0
If you like motorcycles, think of it a as a R1 on steroids.
Just don't be doin' that shit too close to the ground.
We will defeat them with our #Hashtags
#Hashholes
#settletheirhash
Yup, sounds like it is time for Michelle Obama to go hashtag on their asses!
I think it's mike...
#AmericanLiesMatter
Take a close look at the aircrafts that have nothing to do with fucking MIC corporations
In the first pic, the techs are armed! That would never stand on a US military base, there might be a mass shooting!
Those are merely props. The holsters really contain Pez Dispensers.....
No guns in the war zone!
Naaahhhh, in Amerika they only let the mooselims have the guns!
Just wait for the ranting of US military is greater comments.
Yeah, great in finding hospitals, wedding parties, schools, civillian houses
Land of baby killers...
OMG; Russia is using weapons of mass destruction...........!!!
YIKES....And that is an understatement
Just let it go USA...Ain't worth the kick to an Ego.
Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. / Pure Evil Criminal CIA Psychopaths, meet you maker you Scum Fucks!
Wow, the use of ZH as a Russian mouthpiece gets a little emore blatant every day. Somebody at shoudl tell the maangement at Savushkina street that they will get more milage from the asset if they use it with a little more subtlety.
Billy Kristol?
Michael Medved?
Which candy butt draft dodger is it?
STFU you Mossad/AIPAC -- TROLL!
There, I said it ..
Admit it, as a loser Ukie troll, you are just jealous because the Russians are richer and more successful than you, LOL>
You EXTREMELY love to licking anus, don't you?
The most devastating weapon our President can deploy on Russia/China is 'diversity'. Those nations need millions of niggers, stat!
Fair question. Option A. Keep all the blacks and get rid of...Dimon, Yellen, Pelosi, Clintons, Bushes, Cruz, Boxer, Benanke.....you get the drill. OK, you can toss in Obama but he will be a token. Option B. Get rid of all the blacks and keep the sack of assholes mentioned above.
I can learn to like rap and grape drink. I can not learn to live under tyranny.
"I can not learn to live under tyranny."
...Shhh, its okay, thats what boiling frogs do.
The smart bombs only get the bad guys. you see.
Isn't nice to see somebody elses taxpayers paying for this type of carnage every once in a while? Imagine what each one of those bombs would cost. THANKYOU RUSSIA, THANKYOU PUTIN!!
I just wanna wake up in the morning to hear that wall street & its zionist jewish owners are dust....
so i guess that would mean israel would be scrubbed off the face of the earth too and no one would give a ratts ass, cos ISRAEL DID 9/11 Fuck em nothing could be too bad for them dancing on the roof of a van scum fucks
Nobody here is really a vlad fan it just comes out that way we post on the facts
You hate to be pragmatic but there probably aren't a whole lot of "moderate" rebels left. That leaves the 'chop your head off, blow your head off with explosive chord' ISIS. If the Russian Air Force can go for it and put an end to those savages, why not? Apparently the USAF and USN dropping one bomb a day isn't doing a whole lot.
Brother lostinfortwalton, us sane people are with you all the way!
Those savages never really existed. Just a bunch of thug mercenaries given guns and license to pillage and rape all the women with impunity by the US and allies. They are disappearing rapidly now and going back home to be good little Muslims now that the party is over.
Yomutti. Two week wonder.
Where do trolls get their names?
From the cheesepopes?
Where do trolls get their names?
Langley
https://www.facebook.com/boris.mamavic
Kiev's Higher zRada if we talk about ukies.
I get the feeling this is similar to Hitler advancing on Moscow in the fall of 1941 and Napoleon in winter of 1812 ... the Russians wait until the enemy is extended, then they bring on the hammer !!
Don't forget the Sukhoi SU 30SM advanced fighter which has very little use in Syria unless you want to shoot down somebody else's advanced fighter aircraft. Then it is very useful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0S4Vrnmz7k
Look everyone, people somewhere gotta die so that the US MIC can thrive. Guess those people are just the eggs obama said you gotta break to make an omelette.
Fencer (SU-24) sure reminds me of the F-111 Ardvark......
It should. Both were initially designed to penetrate heavily-defended airspace very fast at low level and deliver their two internal-bay nuclear weapons. They were wired for nukes, but obviously never actually used them. Both were transition bombers to be replaced with more advanced, longer-range aircraft. Both excelled at ground support roles when configured for that task.
Interesting tidbit from the General Dynamics site:
They were arguably about as good as one another (early models) depending on the mission. The later models evolved to very specific and somewhat different roles and can't really be compared apples-to-apples. The F-111 was generally more complex and expensive to build and fly. The Su-24 was simpler and cheaper - three times more Su-24s were built than F-111s. Nearly all F-111s are retired today, while a goodly number of Su-24s remain in active service.
If its true that jamming gear can also disable low orbit US military satellites could they start with the Fox 'fair and balanced' news one first please.
if they knocked out our sattelites, would we buy rocket engines from them, to launch new ones? what if they were on backorder?
We would sanction Russian products including RD-180 rocket engines (like we are now), so we wouldn't be able to buy the rocket engines to lift any new satelites. And there might not be any to buy - China is interested in buying all they can from Russia.
We would have had the option to use GLONASS ourselves in the U.S. in addition to GPS, but the U.S. got all pissy about letting Russia build any base stations for it on U.S. soil. Competition with GPS of course (and more importantly who owns the kill switch).
The U.S. is also all butt-hurt that the Russians figured out how to disable the military side of GPS over their country without disabling the civilian side of GPS. Russian citizens can use GPS there (as well as their more accurate GLONASS), but U.S. precision weapons dependent on the military side of GPS won't work in Russia. Damn you, Putin!
I think the F-35 comes with some kind of satellite-launching option, but they haven't written the code for it yet. 2027 at the earliest and it's going to cost you plenty.
There are already multiple short, mid and long-range precision guidance systems in western weapons that do not need or even use GPS.
However, most weapons can still use GPS guidance if it's available, but only because it's a legacy guidance mode that's built into the original underlying software of many older precision-guided weapons (it is taken as given that GPS guidance data will be denied in combat).
So the underlying GPS guidance software still gets used by other sensors.
What happens is the other sensors generate precise 3-D target location (which can be stationary or moving) and gives it to the GPS bomb or missile before launch (and can update the aim point in flight for a moving target, like a ship, tank, train, via unjammable datalink). That position cue mimics the format of a GPS weapon location signal, and a target location. The sensor tricks the guidance unit into acting like it's receiving valid GPS signals when there are none. The weapon guidance just treats it like regular GPS data.
An unjammable datalink tells the weapon where it is with respect the the target location so the weapon just navigates to the target with the same level of precision (or better) as GPS guidance.
Older GPS weapons have been able to do that for close to 15 years, and all new western precision strike weapons can do this.
The newest versions of these weapons all use at least three separate sensors and a minimum of five separate precision-guidance systems.
They are fully unjammable.
The JDAM-ER and SDBII fall into this category (as do several related weapons), but other weapons like JSOW-C1 prototypes have been able to do it since about 2006 and has done it operationally since 2010. The C-1 version of JSOW has a two-way unjammable datalink but it also has autonomous capabilities, since 2009.
JASSM, JASSM-ER and LRASM all do the same thing now, and Tomahawk is being upgraded to the same standard as well.
For the long-ranging weapons there are also miniature (think size of atom) gyroscope(s) plus ultra-precise atomic clock(s) to provide extremely precise inertial navigation over global distances with clock timing and nav location as good or better than GPS.
The result is weapons that navigate and strike within +/-5 m of a target over intercontinental distance, with autonomous capabilities which take over when line-of-sight datalink is lost (has gone beyond the horizon line).
The newest versions of these weapons probably don't even use GPS anymore, even if they had it in earlier iterations.
The assertion that there is some sort of invulnerability to precision targeting in any part of Russia is total utter nonsense.
Whoever told you that has no clue whatsoever.
"...The assertion that there is some sort of invulnerability to precision targeting in any part of Russia is total utter nonsense..."
An interesting post Element, but holy mother of God - but a bit over-the-top as a response to the simple statement that mil-GPS is unavailable over Russia. I was trying to give a brief picture of the previous political drama and tit-for-tat over GPS and GLONASS as well as senctions relative to the rocket engine purchase issues, not describe some universal inability for the U.S. military to do precision guidance and targeting any more.
One needs to read no further than this: "...it is taken as given that GPS guidance data will be denied in combat...," but then they would miss the rest of your informative post.
In case anyone is still confused, the U.S. has no military GPS capability over Russia because they jam or disable it somehow, but it doesn't matter for our long-range and precsion strike weapons anyways. Certain dim-witted policy-makers were pissed that the Russians were able to jam or otherwise disable the military side of GPS over Russia so quickly, but anyone with a brain in the military simply assumed that would eventually be the case. We do (or certainly could do) the same for GLONASS here and I'm sure the refusal to let them build base stations for GLONASS in the U.S. is related to that.
At the theater and battlefield level outside of Russia (say like Syria), there are trucks full of gear that are designed to interfere with the precision of old-school GPS- or GLONASS-guided weapons (among other things). To Element's point though, pure old-school GPS isn't assumed reliable because of that and modern precision weapons are built using a variety of other guidance methods. That goes for both the newer U.S. and Russian weapons.
Sorry if I misunderstood the point you were making paveway.
The thing about knocking out satellites is they make a big mess in orbit. And that mess doesn't just fall back to earth immediately.
A co-ordinated and precision multiple satellite kill could take out the majority of near earth objects with collateral damage alone, and make launching anything anytime soon impossible.
A flake of paint in orbit can punch holes in shit mighty quick, just imagine what a field of shrapnel travelling at mach 20 will do.
LOL Satellites!
>The West cannot afford to stand by and watch Putin do
>in a matter of weeks what the Obama regime has failed
>to accomplish in 13 months
FIFY
The West? LOL. Obama is not "the west".
But besides that, thanks for all the mil porn, love it.
Russia has nothing that will compete with the F-22. Just saying.
https://youtu.be/xh49qn2cQNU