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Gun Sales Soar After Surge In US Mass Shootings
Just as was evidenced after the 2007 shootings at Virginia Tech, after Columbine and Tucson in 2011, and following the theater shootings in Aurora, Colorado in 2012, US gun sales have soared following the mass-shooting at Umpqua Community College in Oregon, which killed 10 people and injured seven others. As The FT reports, gun sales this year could surpass the record set in 2013, when gun purchases surged after the December 2012 Sandy Hook murders.
Business has been brisk for Larry Hyatt, owner of Hyatt Guns in North Carolina, since the Oregon community college shooting last week that left 10 people dead, including the 26-year-old suspect.
Mr Hyatt saw an even bigger surge in customers after the 2012 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that left 26 people dead, including 20 children, before the gunman killed himself.
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However, the calls for tighter gun laws lead to an increase in weapons sales. “Once the public hears the president on the news say we need more gun controls, it tends to drive sales,” said Mr Hyatt, who owns one of the largest gun retailers in the US. “People think, if I don’t get a gun now, it might be difficult to get one in the future. The store is crowded.”
“We don’t want our business to be based on tragedy but we have to deal with what we have no control over,” Mr Hyatt said. “And after these shootings and then the calls for tougher gun laws, we see a buying rush.”
In the first nine months of this year, 15.6m of the background checks needed to purchase guns from federally licensed sellers have been processed, compared with the 15.5m applications in the same period in 2013, according to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.
Strong sales this year have also boosted the earnings for the two of the largest gun manufacturers in the US. Smith & Wesson and Sturm, Ruger & Co have seen their stocks rise this year by over 88% and 67% respectively.
As Wired wrote back in 2012, the sharp spike in gun sales following mass shootings is not a new occurence and appears to happen for several reasons...
The desire to protect one's self In many cases, gun shootings followed by 24/7 media coverage prompt citizens to arm themselves, according to testimonies. In Aurora, for instance, Jake Meyers of Rocky Mountain Guns and Ammo told The Post shoppers cited self-protection when checking out new weapons. "A lot of it is people saying, 'I didn't think I needed a gun, but now I do,' " Meyers said. "When it happens in your backyard, people start reassessing — 'Hey, I go to the movies.'"
The fear of stricter gun laws Another logical factor is that gun owners' or soon-to-be-gun owners' sense a tide of gun control regulations following a massacre and seek to purchase guns ahead of fast-moving laws. Paul Helmke, president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, spoke to this following a 60 percent uptick in gun sales in the aftermath of the Tucson shootings in 2011. "Some Americans fear tougher gun control laws in the aftermath of Saturday’s attack so they want to stock up now," he told Politico. “What it shows is maybe gun owners in Arizona and these other states feel that there’s going to be some change in the law, which is what I hope our elected officials” trying to enact. Obviously, that fear has been unfounded. Since coming into office, Obama has been virtually silent on the issue of gun control, despite the protestations of liberals.
The feeling of uncertainty It's important to remember, spikes in guns sales don't just coincide with shooting sprees. They also coincide with violent events of any kind, as Fredrick Kunkle at The Washington Post reported. "People also rushed to buy guns after the 1992 riots in Los Angeles and the breakdown of order in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina." That has led some industry experts and law enforcement officials to point to a general feeling of uncertainty as a driver of gun buying habits. "People often buy firearms during periods of uncertainty," Gary Kleck, a researcher at Florida State University's College of Criminology and Criminal Justice, told the paper.
As Pew's most recent research found, America remains divided over the 'guns' issue:
Pew’s latest survey, conducted in July this year, found that opinions had remained largely unchanged since the Sandy Hook massacre.
Almost eight in 10 people surveyed supported laws to prevent people suffering from mental illness buying firearms, while 70 per cent backed the creation of a database on gun sales and almost 60 per cent wanted to see assault weapons banned.
“The public continues to be more evenly divided in fundamental attitudes about whether it is more important to control gun ownership or to protect the right of Americans to own guns,” Pew’s report said.
“Currently, 50 per cent say it is more important to control gun ownership, while 47 per cent say it is more important to protect the right of Americans to own guns.”
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They Not Getting Mine!
They want everyone else to be rock throwing Palestinians. It is human control they seek and there is no question about that.
Gun control is using both hands.
Hillary is up in arms to close the so called "gun show loophole." This loophole has little to do with gunshows as FFL dealers must conduct background checks even at such shows. In fact, I surmise that the most common use of the "gun show loophole" is the transfer of long arms from deceased or elderly individuals to family or friends without a background check. Grandma almost never runs such a check when Grandpa dies and Sonny Boy gets his shotgun.
This is what the politicians really want to stop -- the untracked passage of common long arms from one individual to another.
If they close the "gun show loophole" and combined it with a database of gun owners cross checked against death notices then Grandma and Sonny Boy will go to jail simply for passing on Grandpa's long arm. This (along with Eric Holder's "brainwashing" techniques against firearms) is how TPTB have decide to make a generational break in Americans' ability and desire to possess firearms.
Having quite the opposite effect, isn't it Onigger?
Chalky is welcome to mine, one bullet at a time.
C'mon you little bitch.
I made a video that outlines all of the witness interviews from the first day, before the MSM could pollute the story.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg_OTaD7KsU
Mussie Ishmale
Pewtrid research... who are they kidding?
So many surveys every day, so many “random samples” for each survey, and yet I've been selected for exactly 0 in all my life.
They do something like 1000 or 2000 people for each survey. That's out of over 300,000,000 people. Chances are, you won't get selected, whether they're legit or not. I've actually been called by Gallup. Once. It was a political survey. They got no Repub! or Dem! from me.
And make no mistake, most people are morons, either by choice, or by birth.
I read several concealed carriers outside the classrooms, a few of them vets, heard the gun shots in Oregon but did not get involved. How sad.
The first role of a CCW is to protect its owner. Not running to a gunfight can be a respectable thing to do for a permit holder who has responsibilities to others, family for example.
No body armor will protect against a .22 from a person with point of aim.
...but a carry pocket piece should be at least .380
the latest reject could be obama's brother, and more black on white murder. the spin away from this rejects particulars are the media doing a lateral arabesque, meanwhile a muslim shoots up an army base and obama says nothing about disarming muslims or blacks the main perpetrators of the gun murder problem. black criminality is the problem, not law abiding gun owners.
I'm in Soviet Jersey where there's no such thing as carry, concealed or otherwise, so I may not be fully up on my CCW laws. However I was under the impression that in the rest of the country, CCW was ONLY to protect your person and immediate family, and that using it to protect someone else was grounds for imprisonment?
...it may be time for the rest of the international community to come to terms with the fact that "America" is simply a lost cause.
Or we could all get on our knees like you pussy.
"surge in mass shootings"
FUCK OFF WITH THE SOCIALIST JEW MEDIA LIES....is this the HuffPo now?
WHY DO BLACK LIES MATTER TO THE SOCIALIST JEW MEDIA?
Because black lies are being used by the socialist jew media to incite low IQ violent kneegroes to commit acts of gun violence. Even racist kneegrow blacktrash Obama told his sons to "BRING A GUN TO THE FIGHT"...remember that? The socialist jew media never uttered a peep about that, did they?
BLACK LIES MATTER
'HE WAS SHOT IN THE BACK" ...STUPID KNEEGROW LIE
'HE WAS RUNNING AWAY' ...STUPID KNEEGROW LIE
'HE WAS ON HIS WAY TO COLLEGE'.......STUPID KNEEGROW LIE
"HE WAS SURRENDERING" ...STUPID KNEEGROW LIE
"HE HAD HIS HANDS UP" ...STUPID KNEEGROW LIE
"HE NEVER DID NUFFINS TWO NOWUNS' ...STUPID KNEEGROW LIE
'HE WAS CHOKED TO DEATH" ...STUPID KNEEGROW LIE
Now WHY does the socialist jew media keep repeating these ...STUPID KNEEGROW LIES as facts?
TO INCITE LOW IQ KNEEGROWS TO GUN VIOLENCE, THEN, LIKE OBAMA AND THE SOCIALIST JEW MEDIA ARE DOING RIGHT NOW, TRY TO TAKE AWAY YOUR 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHTS!
Notice how kneegrow on white crimes are not called hate crimes by the socialist jew media.
Notice how the socialist jew media does not make kneegrows targetting white and Christians about race or religion.
Notice how the socialist jew media has yet to even say Mercer or Flannagan were black, and all of their victims were white....
Notice when kneegrows kill whites, IT'S ONLY ABOUT THE GUN.....
Y’know, it’s going to be a nice, balmy evening in Chicago..
I think I will take my nice lily white young grandkids for a stroll in Chicago’s beautiful Garfield Park.
After all. Papa Dick and Baby Dick Daley spent many millions making Chicago “the city that works” and we should be able to enjoy the results of all their efforts.
And oh.. Ram (it up urass) Emanuel is keeping crises that should not be wasted, alive in memory of Papa Dick.
And.. and.. Ram’s bro Ezekiel
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2014/10/why-i-hope-to-die-at-75/379329/
(love those Hebe biblical Old Testament names) is reaping the big bucks
oh.. oh.. I CCW..
maybe this is how the pioneers taught the young'ns aborut predators.
Perfect, they can mind their own fucking business and stay out of ours. best idea ive heard all day.
You get your primate cross-breed on last night?
No. Obviously you are from New Jersey. I'm sorry for you.
A ccw permit DOES allow for the possibility that one may feel obligated to help another person from being severely harmed by a violent attack. A permit holder's permitable legal actions in protecting life can be extended to others.
Marvin Harris, one of the world's most noted anthropologists, wrote a book in 1980. This title was previously available as America Now: The Anthropology of a Changing Culture. New York: Simon & Schuster. The new title is Why Nothing Works: The Anthropology of Daily Life 1981.
In the chapter titled: Why There's Terror on the Streets, he demonstrates that American White men have violent crime rates LOWER than English in England and the Japanese in Japan. So why does America have such a high level of violent crime? Dr Harris puts it quite plainly: Blacks and Hispanics. That's the story. He also pointed out that the average gun owner is a middle-aged, middle class White guy.
I agree. Im not running into anything like that if my family is involved, no way. They are my first responsiblity. If I am by myself, Id like to think Id try to help, but I firmly believe we are heading into tough times here, and I don't want to risk not being able to take care of my wife and kids when that happens.
Yup. A ccw permit does NOT make one a cop. A ccw holder may or may not get involved, it generally is a matter of proximity. If something is going down right in front of you, it may be okay to get involved. To run across a college campus an into another building in order to involve oneself is definitely not a very good idea.
I agree. Cops have what they call 'qualified immunity', so if they shoot an unarmed person, but thought he was a bad guy, or are shooting at an active shooter buy accidently hit an innocent person, they don't get in trouble. A CCW holder running across a college campus trying in intervene in something like that is not covered by anything, he will be entirely at the mercy of the cops and the courts, assuming he even survives.as you say, definitely not a good idea. A lawsuit that will absolutely ruin you is a very real possibility, even if you are successful.
And believe me, if you try to intervene in something like that and fuck up, you will be ostricized in the media worse than george zimmerman. The cops will fucking have to charge you, even if they don't want to, just to satisfy the media and politicians. You will also give the left a lot of ammo to use against CCWs. "see, an untrained civilian runs into a situation that should have been left to the police. he shot an innocent person trying to stop a shooter and made the situation worse blah blah blah" will be what people will hear about.
My CCW is for me and my family, and only in situations that we can't just turn around and leave. Im not intervening in anything that doesn't threaten me or them.
The guerilla war on cops will NOT end until: (1) every cops is personally accountable for every round they cap off; (2) a cop who kills a citizen no longer gets unlimited paid time off during the 'investigation'; and (3) jury awards and settlements in favor of the familiy of slain citizens (at the hands of cops) come out of that municipal cop's retirement pool. Alternatively, every cop pays in weekly to a victim's compensation fund. . .
More media confusion, or deception?
This report says that a vet with a CCW - John Parker - tried to intervene, but school officials told him not to.
http://conservativefiringline.com/video-armed-vet-says-he-was-prevented-...
And then this report says that the same vet - John Parker - tried to intervene, but school officials told him not to, and then he ultimately decided "that it was a good choice at the time."
http://www.oregonlive.com/education/index.ssf/2015/10/umpqua_community_c...
Parker does not say anything about deciding that not intervening was "a good choice" in the first video. Also, the first link refers to him as an Air Force vet; while the second calls him Army.
These and many other little inconsistencies just tell you about the state and quality of modern "reporting."
Fukem. Fukem all. Buncha chikenshit progressive liberal democraps.
Cast Silver Boolits kills vampires...
...and lizzard peeples so I heard.
"Well it was kinda intense and kinda.. like, not, I dont want to say boring," hmmm, silencers?
Hollywood set.
Sure, there are those utopian dreamers imagining a time when no one but Barney Fife has a gun, but the pragmatists in the collectivist progressive crowd have no illusions about getting rid of guns. No, I believe e beyond their typical divisiveness for political gain routine, they are not pushing for the elimination of guns, but the criminalization of them. The quickest way to silence a huge portion of society is to criminalize the ownership of guns THAT THEY KNOW WE WILL NEVER GIVE UP. Ruby Ridge, Waco. Simply isolated cases of a broader concept. If you own guns, this is hanging over your head. Political activism or simply Frank conversations will be exposure for prosecution. Everything is about power, intimidation, citizen capitulation.
Make me a criminal, and then watch me start acting like one. I'm not giving mine up, and if you make it so that I risk getting shot for not giving mine up, guess what...
Actually, it's hanging over their heads.
No gun owners in CA rubbing out the tyrants, so far as I have seen, and the 2A is basically dead here. Can't open carry. Can't concealed carry. You can "bear" you arms on private property, serfs! If they are on detailed lists of specifically allowed items, after 30 days waiting, and they're registered.
Not to abuse an overused idea, but we are in a boiling pot, not a flash fire. The pressure will not come from the government directly but the public that continually will be indoctrinated to see anyone who owns a gun out of uniform a threat. It will be the public that intimidates us into secrecy and silence...just as they have done with race, religion, sexual preference/identity issues and about anything else you can think of. The ever shifting Overton window. The only thing on our side is the pure quantity of people who own guns, but even that can change. Simply look at the number of guns voluntarily surrendered when asked in many instances, in America and abroad.
I don't think thats what is happening. Everyone who has a tinfoil hat(im gonna put mine on for a sec) knows these polls are biased. the questions are phrased in a way to make people more likely to answer in the manner desired by the people conducting the polls. The government and media want to see more people in favor of things like banning 'assualt rifles', so questions will lead people in that direction. And, thats also dependent on if you even turst they don't just make up half that data. And I didn't see it mention where this poll was conducted. You ask a bunch of people in the NE, probably gonna get a lot different answer than if you're asking people in GA or FL about it.
Even with their dishonest bullshit, they STILL can't manufacture a concensus on gun control. The more this shit happens, the more guns are sold. Hell, I admit it, I went and bought another one after that homo shot those people on TV. I know Im not the only one. I didn't buy another gun after this one, but I did buy more ammo, and there were a lot of other people doing the same thing. "flyover country' isn't allowing the next generation of their children to be raised to fear guns and think they are bad either. The left is losing this one.
Dont forget that as more wetbacks and niggers rape'n'murder, more productive minds see behind the curtain . . . resulting in incremental firearm sales. It's not just the prepper fringe buying those 15.6 million guns year-to-date. Bearing arms is a powerful call option. . . The Islamists knew this just prior to perpetrating the Armenian genocide, and so they ordered the guns be confiscated. Over here the tyrants understand the importance of taking the guns away. We'll all know when it's time to kill a mess o'tyrants. It will be when the gun confiscation act hits the floor of Congress.
To those who want to ban some guns, or to control gun ownership, do you own a gun? No? Well, how do you propose to take mine away then? Any answer you give makes you a fucking hypocrite of the highest order.
They're using the same techniques they used to intimidate smokers and promote perversion -- what Holder calls "brainwashing."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYyqBxD-3xw
Look at the way they bullied a kid for eating a supposedly gun shaped pop tart or the way they lock down schools when someone robs a bank miles away.
Something is going to break. When and how, I'll speculate on sometimes, but it is really tough to predict when and how. But there is just too much tension for things to keep on going as they are. When it does, the people who are disarmed will be at the mercy of those who are armed, and no matter who wins, how much mercy will be decided by somebody who has the power of life and death over them.
But people flat out refuse to believe that we are economically fucked and that our government is unbelievably corrupt.
Full agreement. On a related note I think that the situation in Syria marks a major turning point in US and world history. This past month will be well remembered like Archduke Ferdinand or the Lusitania. US hegemony breaking down in the most ignominious way and soon to be Iranian troops on the Israeli border. Where will it lead?
I'll take door number three: a false-flag attack on Amerikan soil. Maybe even ISIS inspired. Multiple cities simultaneously. Followed by martial law and United Nations troops going door-to-door to TRY to take our guns. Perhaps even after a staged military coup. And if this shit DOEs happen, there will DEFINTELY be civil woar. Prepare for the worst, and pray for the best...
Entirely possible but Iran as the scapegoat would seem more likely. Remember, the Sunnis are supposedly the "good" terrorists --even the WSJ says that members of "Al Qaeda affiliate Al-Nusra" are "moderates."
And there's always race war for back up. Lots of levers of control.
SOMETHING is going to happen. I was just mentally masturbating above, but too much is going on lately to believe it isn't coming here, in some form - whether ISIS, Iran, Russia, China etc. Just the last two days I noticed several low flyovers of fighter jets here in Sacramento. Something evil is afoot...best be prepared, is all I can say.
Just remember . . . when they come to your door to get your guns, MAKE THE FIRST SHOT COUNT. .308 is OK, .338 is better, .50 BMG is best. You are shooting for a softball-sized exit wound, and enough splatter to get the next 3 thugs wet.
BULLSHIT!
When they come to your neighbor's door to take his guns away, MAKE YOUR FIRST TEN SHOTS COUNT.....Then the motherfuckers will think twice about going to anyone else's door....
I agree. I don't think they have the balls to really try confiscation though. there are enough people that are so fed up with this shit that they won't hand them over peacefully. A lot of people say "when they pry them from my cold, dead fingers", but if even 1% of the population means that, your talking about over 3 million people. That sure as hell isn't a way Id like to die, knocking on my neighbors doors to take their guns away. Another thing thats worth mentioning, is a lot of people that would act like they are complying by turning over guns would still have some. Plenty of people, Im sure, have some guns that they bought at a store, which means there is a record of the transaction(I, for one, don't believe for one goddamn second there isn't a database with that info. Every single gun you have bought from a store and its serial number is known). But they also probably have other guns that weren't aquired like that. You'd get a lot of "yep, here they are, thats all of them..."
They are not going to take your shitty guns away, it's just going to be martial law. The police is already quite militarized and the military will help with restoring "order".
You voluntarily won't take your gun out the house for fear of getting straight up shot by some recruit who thought your beard looked a little arabic.
Fear. Fear. Fear. It's all they need to control us.
Give them a little slack. If they reply "wow ... that's a damn good question" then at least you know the gears are turning.
(Salutes). Barry Obongodinga, the greatest gun salesman of all time. God Bless the Republic.
What repewblik?
Wake up, bitch. It exists in our hearts and minds. The remnant. The 3% that fought last time. Is this thing on?
THIS is why we play, 'Call of Duty.' I'd bet that's more than 3% of us, BTW.
Real world? What? You just click on this and shit 'splodes, right?
/wearesoooofucked
The so-called Loophole is a pretext to create a complete inventory and traceability of all arms. The rest comes later.
Marketing gimmicks... :>D
So why is vile woman not in prison?
internet sales of the best AR type, sub MOA rifles for the best price in the US. www.daemondefensellc.com
Get yourself one!
Half of the guns I own are inherited with no paper trail ever. Good luck corralling those.
Fukem. Fukem all.
Wonder if this 3 year old had a CCW?
LAKE PLACID, NY, 9/22/15: Police in Lake Placid are investigating an accidental shooting. A mother was hospitalized after a gun got into her child's hands. It happened at about 9 AM at an apartment complex off Miller Drive in Lake Placid. Police wouldn't say who the shooter or victim are, but Lake Placid Mayor Craig Randall says it was a 3-year-old child who accidentally shot his mother.
Well, no matter, it's a good thing he was armed.
Toddlers are dangerous individuals. More people are killed by unarmed toddlers than by adults wielding "assault rifles."
Let that be a lesson to would-be spankers, and to Pedos
Back before the advent of lightweight LCD TVs, Darwin used to thin the herd of the dangerous sort, using the old "yank the TV off the cinderblock 'entertainment center' and onto your head" technique. Now we're screwed.
...after a gun got into her child's hands.
We teach our kids to walk around with their hands in their pockets solely to prevent guns from jumping into their hands. Gotta be careful, those guns will jump right in your hand.
The kids a pretty competent shot; went one for one on his mother. Maybe the NYPD could employ him as a trainer.
Im the same way with our kids. Its been proven time and again that guns are both dangerous and devious. They find ways to jumo into kids hands. We keep a couple bungy cords around the door of our safe, just in case the guns inside figure out how to open it and let themselves out. I know if they ever got out they would jump right in my two year olds hands....
And a 3 year old racked the gun how?
Pulled the trigger on a wheel-gun how?
Someone racked or cocked the trigger then gave the gun to a 3 year old?
Someone leaves around guns with cocked triggers?
Story is bullshit, complete fabrication.
Ever been to Texas, or No. Dakota, Idaho, New Mexico, Florida, So. Carolina, Tenn, or 35 other States?
Stay in Kalipornia.
Assuming it's her gun, it's her responsibility to make sure it doesn't end up in her kid's hands. If it was a significant other's, then they are responsible for her death.
And you're a cunt.
Gun abolitionists always come up with some horrible story to justify gun confiscation. It is terrible that a child died. Everyone with a heart agrees. To use a statistically irrelevant event to justify the destruction of the natural right of self-defense is the epitome of deceit. You would have us close our eyes to history and ignore the millions of children that have been slaughtered in state sponsored genocide all in the name of saving a child. You cannot make the children of the world safe by making me defenseless. I reject your argument as a spurious attempt to snuff out the last candle of freedom that is still burning in this country.
An armed man has a choice. A disarmed man has his choices made for him.
"An armed man has a choice. A disarmed man has his choices made for him."
I like that. also, free people are allowed to have guns. slaves are not, nor are prisoners
Bathtubs killed 374 Americans last year alone. Horrible things, bathtubs. We must ban them.
It's not about gun control. It's about people control.
Its not about gun control, its about the elimination of threat. It's about time we all realized that in someone's eyes. possibly everyone's eyes, WE ARE THE THREAT.
They'll be getting mine! Cuz I'll be selling it to 'em. Previously bought 30rd PMAGS for $16 or so (direct from website) and was reselling them for $100 EACH during the height of the gun panic. Plan on doing the same thing this time.
Ill be doing the same with all the 40 round pmags i bought for 18$. didn't care for them, they look silly IMO, and don't fit in any mag pouch. They will be offered for sale for 100 too, if it ever gets to that point.
Right on.
Here's the thing that sticks out to me: "Currently, 50 per cent say it is more important to control gun ownership, while 47 per cent say it is more important to protect the right of Americans to own guns.”"
So the disarmed 50% (I think this poll is bullshit social engineering) wants to order the armed 47% around and demand things?
Only in America would liberals be so delusional as to think that less than 1 million enforcers could force 150 million people to disarm.
These people are completely fucking delusional. In the real world, unarmed people do what the armed people say. Those who turn the swords into ploughshares end up plowing for those who don't.
PERIOD.
Yeah blue hive liberals, give up your rights. Turn in what few guns you have. And then believe that you have the power to make us do anything.
Question: If guns become illegal, will they be harder to get than a bag of weed or a hooker?
MOLON LABE, bitchez!!
To my mind it's really not so good...
All the dems are hard at work trying to out tuff the others with gun control laws. Ban semi auto everything and finger prints for all right down to the nra is a terrorist group.
Obama urges more gun control. Sucks dick.
But we can't have gun control! How would the police and the miltary defend themselves? Ohhhh, so by "gun control" you mean that the govt keeps all theirs but we give up ours? Yeahh, I'm thinking you biches go first on that one LOL.
I saw a movie where only the police and military had guns.....it was called "Schindler's List."
And then there's this:
How to Make a Laser Assisted Blowgun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgT8I2uxJ6o
I'm as conservative as they come but clearly something must be done. Listen folks, it's time that guns, ammunition, bows, arrows, knives, swords, etc. be banned for the common man. The NRA is a terrorist organization and should be treated as such. I have a strong hunch that Wayne LaPierre and NRA leadership is behind these mass shootings to drum up sales for their supporters. It's time that the government put the iron fist down on the second amendment sickos!
Hillary.....is that you????
Ban gun sales for democrats. I am fine with that.
How about tax credits for CHL holders???It only seems fair.
With the coming deflationary shit storm those without guns may regret their narrow-minded ways since people will be fighting over a can of tuna at Walmart.
We don't need gun control. We need nigger control.
If you wish to start gun-grabbing, take all the guns away from niggers. They are the ethnic group that uses guns the most for their prolific violent crime. Let's see how that goes for 10 years, and then we'll talk about grabbing the guns from the wetbacks. . .
you forgot your /s
Pretty sure that's implied.
The downvotes show the level of ignorance of some of our members.
Nobody appreciates sarcasm and when it's clearly not spelled out to the sheeple, they get their panties in a knot and start hitting the red arrow, because 'Merica!
Frankly its poorly crafted sarcasm.
<sarc>That's what you get for going with a scab over a union worker.</sarc>
If you can't handle the /sarc, you don't belong here.
I downvoted specifically for poor sarcasm. See MDB to see how it's done.
Excellent Advice,
How cute, they let one of the retards in the mental institution play on the staff computer.
lol...thanks CC (MDB)...i needed a good laugh
It's obvious to those of us outside the U.S. that America's liberal gun policies and bizarre attitude to the right to carry arms is the cause of the slaughter of your innocents. Brave of you to post in the face of such feral people.
Too embarrassed to actually name your native land?
Who gives a fuck if he's too embarrassed. 1) He has to explain Switzerland and 2) he flat out does not understand the US.
As a feral human I was just looking for a weak, tasty treat.
You'll get a little bitch.
That's Ok, the little ones are less Brucey.
It should be obvious to the criminals that liberals are easy pickins.
Lots of liberals own guns. I think many just resent feeling they MUST own them for self protection, when a universal disarming would make them feel secure without the personal responsibility. It is personal responsibility that drives the liberal mind. It's what drives the abortion issue as it is but another means of "sloughing off" consequences of bad choices. They don't want to fight for freedom or anything else. Simply delegate it all to the greater power, the efficient means of maintaining safety and order. And then bitch of its failures and how an even greater power should exist to meet their emotional needs.
It's not a liberal gun policy. It's not even a law, a rule or a given right.
It is codified recognition, that by virtue of birth and existance, we are created with a God given right to self defense. And as such, deserve, demand and shall have access to that which gives us equal footing against any and all men.
A firearm. The great equalizer. That which ALL tyrannies strive to remove from it's population as effectively as possible.
We are NOT giving up our guns. Not without a fight. If we give up our guns, it's over. It was all for naught. Start over, in a differant form.
Kiwi gal, your Aussie or NZ? You guys handed them over, by the 100's of thousands. I saw the pictures of them being destroyed. It made me sick. Not for the hardware, but the giving up of your freedom. That's how I see it. You may feel safer, or moraly superior. Good for you. I wish you luck. Because, that's all you have. Luck. And hope. Hope you're lucky enough to never need firearms to defend yourself.
There are over 300 million guns in private hands, in the US. Most of the gun violence and murder is inner city drug dealers and gang bangers killing each other. GOOD. Kill the fuck out of each other. It's rather rare for innocent people to suffer gun violence. Believe it, the dealers and gang bangers do not want a war with the law abiding gun owners. It would not last long.
More or less, the same with the government. The shit they feed us is bad enough. It would be intolerable without the knowledge we could kill every one and their police 100 times over, and not even run low on ammo.
It was said, during WW2, the Japanese thought more than twice about invading the US. It was said there was a gun behind every blade of grass.
Our politicians don't want our guns to make us safer. They want our guns to make themselves safer, and to be able to more freely impose their will. It might come to pass. Some day. But I hope it's a bloody fucking affair when they try.
What part of God given right to self defense don't you people understand?
Do you really think Mankind has matured to the level you may never need a firearm?
To each his own. For me, Molon Labe. Come and take it, motherfucker.
Wasn't it two guns behind every blade of grass?
Well thanks to Obama, it's definitely two now :-)
I really don't think there's much to fear on "giving up the guns". It simply can't and won't happen at this point. Too many Americans are now awake, and are now seeing the government for what it is. Confiscation may have worked when people were more trusting. But that time is long gone. We know that when empires begin to fail, they turn the weapons inward against the people...and that's the stage the US is entering into now. So this could be the worst time in American history to try to disarm the people..it just won't happen. Obama opens his mouth, and within a few hours there's no more .223/5.56 on the shelf to buy. What does that tell you? It says that people are getting ready. It says that people know what elections are and what they are not. I just hope that people back each other up when the time comes. Snowden makes me optimistic. Bundy Ranch makes me even more optimistic.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/europe/20151006/1028088501/activists-drones-germany.html#ixzz3nmvmdFXJ
Actually it was "a rifle behind every blade of grass" with the idea that a rifle is a far more effective anti-personnel weapon than the generic 'gun' (usually means handgun).
There's a lot of grass around here, and plenty of rifles too.
But others outside the US know that the biggest cause of death among UK youth aged 16 - 24 is a car accident (with them in the car), So that means, to save our "innocents" we should not let them drive till they are 24.
See how that goes down with the "innocents". And if you look up the figures, I would bet that the difference in numbers between our "innocents" and the USs is big.
4,800 "innocents" road deaths in UK in 2011 (first found in quick search)
ALL US School massacres in 2015 - 18 including suicides.
So we really need to do something about car crime in the UK
If you take the 10 most violent Democrat-run hell-hole cities (which have been run by Democrats for decades) out of the stats (Chicago, Detriot, Philadelphia, Memphis, Oakland, St.Louis, Baltimore, etc.) then suddelnly the US is one of the LEAST VIOLENT countries on the planet.
So no, it's not guns owned by law abiding citizens that cause the problems, its the murderous, criminal, Democrat constituency that causes almost all of this coutry's problems.
History of gun control
Innocents Betrayed (documentary. I dare you to watch this)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUmKT43j4Tc
"I'm as conservative as they come..."
Fuck you troll!
Jesus Christ!
People don't get satire!
I used to get it but I didn't renew my subscription.
"I'm as conservative as they come but clearly something must be done."
Well, you gave it your best shot. If you had a reputation for sincere sarcasm we might have held you in the same esteem as Million Dollar Bonus. You just can't jump in and try that level of liberal mockery without practice man - you could hurt yourself!
But, thanks for trying. We were tired of waiting for the master to arrive and humor us.
He sounds like a northeastern or northwestern or norther midwest urban conservative...
meaning he doesn't like drugs or gays, but also goes along with every government initiative.
Or MDB is getting more competition.
Chris Christie is the pre-eminent yankee republican 'conservative'.
Yankee republicans: GET OFF MY LAWN YOU LIBERAL PUSSIES
Conservative? What are you conserving? I'm no conservative, but am a libertarian, I only conserve guns, ammo, precious metals and a keen hatred of gun-grabbers.
Jackie and Dunlap on the new Tennessee law that makes it legal to carry guns into bars and restaurants with a permit.
Guns Legal In Bars
Nevada has allowed carry in bars, restaurants, and casinos for years, no issues. Treated the same as drunk driving but of course you would be fried if you used your weapon after a few drinks. Best to be a sober packer.
Carry in casino ... you're nuts ... name one casino that allows this.
They don't have a choice, it is not a prohibited location under Nevada law. They could post a sign not allowing but I have never seen one and it they did and you are caught they can only ask you to leave. If you don't leave you can be charged with trespassing.
My business plan is to open a gun range/club that serves alcohol.
Heck of a good time!
My cousin is a member of just such a club. Not that there are waitresses at the range itself, mind you.
Try this one...
http://www.alamorange.com/
Nice lounge area and cigar bar for after shooting activities.
DaddyO
Just dont forget your $100,000 EPA compliant HEPA filtration unit and 10 million dollar liability policy.
Good luck with that.
"My business plan is to open a gun range/club that serves alcohol."
Don't forget cigarettes! One-stop licensing should be a breeze now that the regulatory agency is, wait for it, The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (and now Explosives too!).
Americans are the most fearful and scared people on the planet. Only out of complete ignorance & stupidy would a people countinue to cling to the very same thing that is killing them.
We are the most violent culture on the planet. From the White House & Pentagon down to Hollywood and Football. A violent Wetiko culture only understands more violence. More guns only equals more violence in a Wetiko violent culture.
WAKE UP!!!
Too bad the data doesn't support your argument. If you look at violent crimes and gun control in the USA, you find that trying to stop shootings with gun control merely leads to a larger number of "beaten to death with a hammer" violence. Further, violence overall tends to increase.
But I'll grant you that "Only out of complete ignorance & stupidy would a people countinue to cling to the very same thing that is killing them." This is correct when you are talking about gun-free zones, in the USA.
Yep. Great Britain is a perfect example. Before they banned guns, there were very low levels of all kinds of violence there--guns, knives, fists, didn't matter.
Since they banned guns, all other forms of violence have skyrocketed. They tried banning knives, that didn't work. The latest thing is now acid attacks! Weaponsman reports:
http://weaponsman.com/?p=25995
Don't forget "glassing." MF'ers getting their faces and necks slashed open EVERY DAY in the UK.
Niggers are killin' us. We need to stop clinging to 'diversity' and the fucking welfare nation.
Try calling cops is a bad neighborhood. The cops themselves are scared.
People need to be able to fight back.
Weapons are also needed to fight a tyrannical government. It was realized early in the country's creation that the government could become corrupt.
Niggers are the most violent bar none.
Stop lumping in peaceful and civilized white people with these sub 90 IQ, high testosterone, low impulse control inbred violent savages.
Guns aren't the problem. It's the savages that cannot control their emotions or violent impulses.
Lucky for the savages, the majority of men in this country, who are also armed, can control their violent impulses.
That may not always be the case.
A bounty system would clean up our cities right quick. Think of the money to be made. What do you guys think it would take? $500 per scalp?
Free markets always find a solution.
It's way past time that the NRA (Nazi Rambos of America) be put down. Sane Americans say no to guns and yes to immigration reform. Bye bye your gun obsessed Nazi whackjobs! @BarbaraSpectre #endwhitepeople
Yeah, you're stable.
(Satire)
Let me give you some advice. You are out of the loop. Of all the demonstrations since 911 at OWS, 10,000 people gathering at Oakland Bay bridge, the black lives matter gatherings...if there were Wild Wild West shoot outs in America, they would have happened at these events.
The shootings are staged to promote gun control because unlike the CEOs who were attacked and stripped of clothing, gun owners will indeed get their justice and take over the country stolen out from under them under the guise of a good thing - globalization is a scam. Going Green is a scam. The whole fucking show is a scam. HOLLYWOOD is hard at work making you believe this movie because they are working for the richest sonofabitches in the land, ensuring their status never changes, regardless of what they do.
Do you hear me? This is a scam. Gun confiscation, history tells us, precedes arrest and execution eventually. So do us all a favor and STFU. PLEASE!
Time for your klinghoffer cocktail.
Wow! I am speechless, after your comment.
Hey I have an idea!
Why don't you come and kick my door down, come inside, slap my wife, throw me on the floor, and take my guns. Then you can go to my next door neighbor's adn continue working your way down the block.
I mean, armed people always capitulate to disarmed social justice warriors screeching about feelings, right?
Come on and experience some real compassion.
We call it putting something out of its misery. We will be glad to put you out of your misery if you want.
Come on down.
Us hillbilliy white trash bitter clinging rednecks need a little of your liberal do gooder compassion.
Now we end up with a bunch of non gun people buying guns that they will forget where they left after 6 months but their teenager will know. Next school shooting waiting to happen alas. Also drives up prices. Yes, I am very 2A. Always been and only own about 6 weapons but they are all very useful for their intended purpose. My Marine Marmaluke saber may be a bit frivolous but short of a gunfight is makes one hell of a weapon.
Hmm, I need to watch this more closely. If AR prices spike like last time I am selling my baby. Wait til they drop back down as last time and build a better one. Capitalism! Got the AK in the meantime.
Truth.
The gun can't help you if it sits in the closet and you don't practice.
Yup. Just spent $500 on lead and blew it all downrange this past weekend. Now I can hit a shithouse door from 100 feet with a 1911 or a Glock 19. Before I could only do that with a 12 gauge.
I didn't even own a gun until early last year. It is DEFINITELY a steep learning curve, for some of us at least.
Not that many people are idiots. I fired a M-16-A1, A3, a .45 and a few shotguns 30+ years ago; was indifferent to them, just doing what I had to do. Never picked them up again. No inclination to hunt. I always figured that if I was to own a gun it would be because I felt the need to protect someone or something. I happen to feel that way now. The scale tipped. I am surrounded by nanny fascists who want to shut it all down; and people who will let them do it. This is a working fact, for me. Time to move on it.
/Owning and breaking in a firearm has been a quietly remarkable experience. I figured out how to field strip and clean it, learned its parts. It changes many perspectives; and reveals the cowering ignorance of most of those few of my Nor CA acquaintances who know I am making this move.
It's also satisfying to own something well-made, not an easy proposition in this day of Chinese shit.
I am learning how to do a number of things I expected I would learn when necessary; not just in the realm of firearms. One of the very few advantages to the last 15 years has been that there are plenty of people with interesting skill sets out there, willing to give lessons.