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We are leading from behind...or below...or behind a curtain somewhere
Why the fuck should we "lead" anyone? Let them lead themselves.
Have fun stormin' the castle Putin -
From my experience it has always largely lead or be led. Life has always been that away, but we can always hope and strive for the perfection of anarchy. Don't misunderstand me though. I'm not promoting interventionism. You can lead without force, without coercion, with manipulation. America used to strive to lead by example and now has resorted to chaos, destruction and fear. NOT sustainable.
Spot on ... carry a big stick ... speak real quiet ... be nice ... but smash to smithereens if attacked.
Instead we have US think-tanks constantly postulating 'scenarios' to go into and attack the Chinese interior directly with conventional weapons bombardments. And the think tanks are quite serious about it. If the Chinese spent two decades openly doing the same thing in reverse, i.e. saying how they seek to fly in and attack and subdue the US, Japan or Australia at will, what do you suppose we'd do about that?
Thus western foreign policy and behavior is naturally in the toilet at this point, how could it turn out any other way, when that is our inculcated mentality is always to dominate?
And would another power be any different? NO, they would not be. They will all say they would be different, better, would learn all the lessons, but they definitely won't, they will be the same, or even far worse.
So to come full circle why then would we not want to dominate and control with whatever means to hand, if that is the alternative? And thus we do, thus we will continue to. I don't expect any change here, because even deterrence induced fear doesn't make us snap out of dominance behavior and desire, just the reverse, it reinforces and amplifies the urge to dominate - always!
So we go all out to dominate and defeat a competitor, hence the mentality of the Think-Tanks.
It's circular, it feeds back and amplifies the feed backs.
So what will attenuate the apparently baked-in dominance feedback and its inbuilt imperative to continue to control by whatever means available?
At best we recognize this dynamic is insoluble and agree on a balance of forces when no one can clearly dominate or win control.
Then you're implicitly back to full-blown MAD and "The Balance of Terror".
On the upside, that competition pushed along technology so fast, especially in space flight, that it transformed everything.
We seem to have only a science and technical crash or crash-through path to follow here - to get off this planet and move into a wider sphere of environmental niche ASAP, to dissipate this enclosed dominance pattern.
It is in the end all about survival, all about who can adapt the fastest, and lead rather than be led, as you aptly put it.
I will go with the people who are pushing hardest to expand the human niche, I don't give toss about the politic, but I do care about how we do it, which feeds into policy, so to politics.
But I am not interested in the politics or 'ideas' of the 'smart' progressive ones who want to reach global 'sustainability', as that is a fantasy on a world where humans are already driven to global dominance behaviors, and have no way out of it but to expand our niche - NOW.
Not later ... we won't have a later ... the dominance behavior will see to that.
So space research is going to become enormously important over the next decade, I think it's time to go all to make the tech to get us at a minimum all over this solar system, within 25 years. We can not risk waiting for another fifty years to get around to doing it.
Now is the time, there won't be another time, this is it, it is this new generation that has to combine like never before to get it done.
Blah, Blah, Blah.
You sure are long winded at saying nothing.
Bu ... but ... you're always so keen to read it! hahaha! :D
We can agree on this..."but smash to smithereens if attacked."
Unfortunately, the last time we didn't provoke the attack was 1812. And that depends on whose side you were on. Hamilton would probably say we shouldn't have pissed off his masters. Good thing Burr shot the cocksucker.
Three cheers for Burr. Not only did he shoot the cocksucker, he gut shot him.
I didn't read it, it was to long winded and boring and written by a fool.
And WTF does your colon capital d mean? That you're a dunce?
I thank you for taking the time from the very important stuff you never do, to reply twice to a comment you insist on pretending you never read. ROFLMAO! :D
I agree. They should get their own damn house in order first. Lead by example.
BULLISH!
https://youtu.be/aiYi63nx1EI
"Muslim Migrants Demand Sex:"
Yore Mama Merkel is available.
even putie can't stop the wall street bull
Puti tang dropped Obama on the tipi-ty
Vlad cares about Russia, the politicians of the USSA do NOT care about America. America is whored out to the Tribe and the results are all around you.
Ted Kennedy is not responsible for the Immigration Act of 1965
Yeah, but Ted's car has killed more people than my guns.
Nice try.
now wait a second. ted's car didn't kill anyone. ditto your guns.
is this a trick question?
Obama sucks
He is after your 2nd amendment rights as soon as he finishes off that dick.
But Cheney told him 'not to hurry'...
Second amendment has been long dead. Designed to protect against an overbearing government, unless you are permitted the same weapons as your government, then it's already gone.
muslim bullet-proof technology
Hungary: Children used as human shields - Media lieshttps://youtu.be/LDESwg-l-Lo
If you think the US is not done here, think again.
For sure. Obama will continue to lead from behind as while he desires credit for anything that can possibly carry a positive spin. Leading from behind, sneaking through the underbrush, gives him opportunity to deny ANY responsibility for ANYTHING, until such time as the media can spin it up in the "win" column. Still waiting on how he win spin the Afghan hospital bombing in the win column...defying Obamacare maybe???
God only knows what he is up to right now.
Do you not think that the CIA will create a war if the CIA wants a war no matter what Obama thinks or wants? I'm not saying Obama is a good guy here. I'm saying he simply doesn't matter. Let's not forget other NATO members and their potential to get tangled up with the Russians. Do you really wanna rely on the Turks?
They must have some sort of plan. Did Putin walk into a trap? Or is his intervention merely in glitch in their plan?
I suspect we are all walking into it and about to step in it as well.
And don't forget or discount the State department. A whole herd of left leaning, new world order types that NEVER leave office, simply holding the fort for the next administration that will overtly enable them. This is not just the CIA, it includes all components of government as it all advances their agenda....primarily being that they keep their jobs. Beyond that is ideology which is not inconsequential in the least. As you say, Obama is a front man, but the thing different in him from Bush, is that Bush was always stuck with the blame and did not spend much effort defending himself...didn't see it as Christian. Obama even avoided accepting the moniker of Obamacare for several years until he could claim it a success (which it never was, but was declared so by his minion press regardless). There all corrupt and dangerous, but Obama simply pisses me off due to his spinelessness. A worm who declares his excrement a blessing to life on earth.
"Do you really wanna rely on the Turks?"
I still remember the pics of defenceless Kurds from Kobani being prevented by Turkish soldiers from crossing into Turkey so that ISIS could herd them back.
Turks have blood on their hands. They should have been ejected from NATO. I would NOT want to see an American serviceman sacrifice his life to protect a F***ing Turk.
When the US have "allies" like Turkey, DOES ANYONE believe the US is one of the good guys ?
But leading from behind is how a down low brutha does it.
Once confidence is lost things go to hell quick
Watch what happens when the subject is the US dollar.
The US drew its own red line. In case you missed it last week, Putin explains the ISIS situation to an American reporter in 7 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbZDyr2LkdI
It's enough to make the military mutiny.
Oh, that would be the day!
Have to agree with Henry Kissinger on the military.
Chances of a military mutiny with any level of coordination are about zero.
Those guys are chosen because they follow orders, not for their ability to think.
What if the order is to munity, now?
Obama sent any potential dissenting military brass home anyway.
Any 'leadership' that is measured by the death toll of innocents should be avoided at all costs......
Anyone who claims to be a 'leader' should be avoided at all costs.
FIFY
To President Obama and the rest of the freaks in the "Land of the Free Home of the Brave" that can do this believing they can do this without impunity!
Mr. Putin! Do your stuff!!!!
"Land of the Free Home of the Brave"
to quote red traphagen (referring to a stadiumful):
ain't none of 'em free, ain't two hundred of 'em brave
http://smile.amazon.com/Southpaw-Mark-Harris/dp/0803273371/ref=sr_1_1?s=...
At least they're home.
What you can't see is Putin measuring the imaginary length of his dick.
The loose shoes, warm place to shit and Reggies tight asshole presidency.
you asked for it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Sn-A7D76o
The fuckwits at Investors.com probably think this is a bad thing.
Fools follow the opinions of the affirmatively educated.
US influence is already completely gone from independent thinkers who are able to recognize the hypocrisy the US exudes. So there is no qualitative respect driven influence from the US anymore there is only fear driven compliance which a widening circle is seeking to circumvent.
The MIC destroyed America by becoming overextended in too many nations of the world. After saturation of war, the war on terror, America lost the moral argument that justified empire building. Israel did their part to destroy America's reputation throughout the world as well. At least the Russian Federation always appears to be acting ethically in comparison.
There is a lot to learn yet about the international intentions of the Russian Federation, but, yes, as far as the past 25 years go, they've had their own problems to deal with internally (Checnya/Crimea/Ossetia). We haven't really seen much from them yet outside their own lands.
As far as Syria goes, I think we are all eager to see the defeat of state-sponsored terrorism and so the Russian Federation looks pretty good at the moment.
Growing up I remember the disgust we were taught to feel about the Soviet Union. I know now how most of the world sees us.
LAND OF THE FREE, HOME OF THE BRAVE.
America was admired for those qualities. Now the illusion has been shattered. We see only an empire clothed in hypocrisy. The end justifies whatever the means.
How to explain a US which says it is committed to fighting terrorists to the reality of a US recruiting, training and financing terrorists and their hideous barbaric, sadistic murder rituals ?
There are 2 types of meat eaters, Putin, and well Obama and his way.