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Russia Escalates Syria Proxy War: Threatens Full Naval Blockade Of Syria
Last week, NATO's supreme allied commander for Europe, General Philip Breedlove, suggested that Russia has effectively declared a no-fly zone in Syria.
That contention was supported by Moscow’s rather bold move to effectively instruct the US-led coalition to keep its planes out of the sky starting last Wednesday. Ultimately, The Kremlin has declared a monopoly on Syrian air space for the duration of Russia’s military campaign, marking an epic embarrassment for Washington, and serving notice to the anti-regime forces operating in Syria that there’s a new sheriff in town.
Well, don't look now, but in addition to the de facto no-fly zone, some experts are out suggesting that Russia is set to use its Black Sea fleet to enforce a blockade on the Syrian coast. Here's Sputnik:
Russia's Black Sea Fleet may be used in Syria to blockade the Syrian coastline and deliver armaments, as well as possibly deliver artillery strikes, the head of Russian State Duma's defense committee and former Black Sea Fleet commander Vladimir Komoyedov said.
"Regarding the large-scale use of the Black Sea Fleet in this operation, I don't think it will happen, but in terms of a coastal blockade, I think that it's quite [possible]. The delivery of artillery strikes hasn't been excluded; the ships are ready for this, but there is no point in it for now. The terrorists are in deep, where the artillery cannot reach," Komoyedov said.
Komoyedov added that the size of the naval grouping used in the operation will depend on the intensity of the fighting. He noted that currently, the navy's Mediterranean flotilla is currently sufficient for actions in the given area.
Komoyedov also said that auxiliary vessels will certainly be used in the operation against ISIL to deliver armaments as well as military and technical equipment.
Meanwhile, the aerial bombardment continues unabated as Russian warplanes have reportedly destroyed "a terrorist base in the woods" where tanks - which are ironically Soviet made- were stationed. Here's RT:
The Russian Air Force in Syria has conducted 25 sorties on 9 Islamic State installations in the last 24 hours, eliminating a disguised terrorist base equipped with tanks, a command center and a communication hub, the Defense Ministry reported.
Russian bombers taking off from Khmeimim airbase knocked out a terrorist base hidden in the woods near the city of Idlib, eliminating 30 vehicles, among which were several Soviet-made T-55 tanks.
“Six airstrikes hit the base, and the terrorists’ equipment was fully destroyed,” Konashenkov said.
And here's the video which purportedly shows the attack on the hidden ISIS base:
While according to Russian weatherwomen, mother nature is smiling on The Kremlin's efforts (via The Guardian):
It’s warm and sunny in Syria – and conditions are perfect for flying fighter jets and launching airstrikes, according to a weather report broadcast on Russian state television.
“Russian aerospace forces are continuing their operation in Syria. Experts say the timing for it was chosen very well in terms of weather,” said the forecaster in a segment aired on Rossiya 24 on Sunday, standing in front of a screen showing a Sukhoi Su-27 fighter jet with the words “flying weather”.
For those wondering how long it would be before an "accident" took place, "inadvertently" pitting Russian fighter planes against NATO, we got the answer on Monday as Turkey scrambled F-16s to the border after Russia allegedly violated Ankara's air space. Here's a bit of color from BBC:
Russia said the incident was a "navigational error" and that it has "clarified" the matter to Ankara.
Turkish jets patrolling the border were also "harassed" by an unidentified plane on Sunday, Turkey said.
Turkey, a Nato member, has called the Russian strikes a "grave mistake".
Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu told Turkish TV that the rules of engagement were clear, whoever violates its airspace.
"The Turkish Armed Forces are clearly instructed. Even if it is a flying bird, it will be intercepted," he said.
Only, that's not true, because the first time Ankara shoots down a Russian "flying bird", Erdogan will have a real war on his hands and will swiftly discover that while bombing air force-less Kurdish separatists with impunity is easy, dog fights with Russian fighter pilots are not, and just about the last thing Turkey needs with inflation soaring and the lira tumbling and elections looming is to go to war with Russia.
In any event, the situation is clearly escalating, and as the Russians get more bold with each passing NATO bluff and subsequent fold, the stakes get still higher. As hyperbolic as it may sound, the West is now one Erodgan miscalculation away from open warfare with Russia and Moscow looks to be just days away from enforcing a full naval blockade of what is rapidly becoming a Mid-East Kremlin colony.
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Those who try to make us form an opinion of our eastern neighbor repeat in all sharps and flats that absolute majority of Russians have only one source of information, which is public broadcasting, the key megaphone of Kremlin propaganda. They claim Russian citizens have no other ways to know what is happening around. But is it really so?
http://homment.com/informaitional_brainwashing_in_russia_and_in_west
GAME. ON.
Vlad the Impaler versus ISIS and their CIA/Mossad handlers.... bring it ON!
Hopefully the Pentagon won't requisition Barack's golf transport. Then things would get really ugly really fast.
Why would the Mulatto Messiah need a golf cart when he can walk on water, magically pay mortgages and issue cellphones?
Another Gulf of Token (Mediterranean Sea) event?
I'd keep a third eye open for another stand down false flag event in the USA. Thanks to Paul Wolfowitz, it'll be coined a third Pearl Habor event.
Proxy war? You keep using that word "proxy" but I don't think it means what you think it means.
While according to Russian weatherwomen, mother nature is smiling on The Kremlin's efforts
Almighty and most merciful Father, we humbly beseech Thee, of Thy great goodness, to restrain these immoderate rains with which we have had to contend. Grant us fair weather for Battle. Graciously hearken to us as soldiers who call upon Thee that, armed with Thy power, we may advance from victory to victory, and crush the oppression and wickedness of our enemies and establish Thy justice among men and nations.
Yes, we should be working to eliminate the "Just us" oligarchy in our own damn house and in fact restore "justice".
Free John Corzine!! Oh wait, nevermind.
Putin’s Lightning War in Syria
http://themillenniumreport.com/2015/10/putins-lightning-war-in-syria/
Henceforth, Russia is in total control of the entire theatre of war.
I'd like those articles a lot better if the authors could dial back the hyperbole a couple of notches.
The word is Blitzkrieg. Gets only lightning war by re-re-translating on google.
This is sexy.
"Russian warplanes have reportedly destroyed "a terrorist base in the woods" where tanks - which are ironically Soviet made- were stationed."
Thousands of Ukrainian Nazis suddenly felt a warm squelchy substance filling their underwear on hearing this news.
Putin: I love smell on burning ISIS and Ukronazis in the morning. Smells like ... Victory.
Take care people
It's the greatest threat global security has ever faced. EMP ATTACK!
All the weapons in the world won't matter once this small army kick into gear!!!!!
http://motivationdose.com/electromagnetic-pulse-attack-emp-blackout-usa-...
2 of the primary reasons for ukraine was to destroy a europe breadbasket ala california drought, and 2 get crimea out of the hands of russia, why ? well, get russia boats out of the med, so israel has no opponent for claiming the offshore gas of gaza and lebanon/syria. plan b?
Have we already seen more actual destruction in a week from Russia than we saw from the pimp from day one?
Obama better put a stop to this somehow, otherwise someone might think he's a fraud.
75% of uUS planes returned without dropping their bombs. Barry always ties the hands of our military, so they can't shoot a jihadi shooting at them.
This why casualties shot way up in Iraq & Afghanistan, when this fraudulent
Community organizer became Commander in Chief.
Obola is awful. He is a puppet and no one in the US govt has done anything. These nation "building" aka nation destroying genocidal proxy an non-proxy wars have been going on since Bushes and Clintons too.
Too many Americans live in a dream world think a 2016 election will matter. The govt is corrupt from the top to the bottom. All of it is blackmailed and corrupt. Too many conservatives say "well the military....". They have gone along. Courts and (illegal) secret courts go along. Congress goes along. The evil Soros and others State Dept with the See Eye Aye does all this crap with zoligarchs and corporations.
The corrupt media enables it and fools think Fox News is their friend. All of TV and Hollywood is garbage.
75% of uUS planes returned without dropping their bombs. Barry always ties the hands of our military, so they can't shoot a jihadi shooting at them.
This why casualties shot way up in Iraq & Afghanistan, when this fraudulent
Community organizer became Commander in Chief.
75% of uUS planes returned without dropping their bombs. Barry always ties the hands of our military, so they can't shoot a jihadi shooting at them.
This why casualties shot way up in Iraq & Afghanistan, when this fraudulent
Community organizer became Commander in Chief.
>>>Obama better put a stop to this somehow, otherwise someone might think he's a fraud.
The important players all know that President Obama speaks from a position of wisdom, and strength.
You must be joking ! Oh wait, I've forgotten that you are actually trolling for a living...
Great quote there Billy. 'Ole Blood And Guts' would be proud of those Commy Bastards and the glorious ass kicking they're dispensing.
I'm sure that's just sarcasm, since unlike our trillion$ planes, Russian jets and planes don't need hermetically sealed and cleaned runways and near perfect weather to operate...you really haven't flown until you've flown a "commercial" topolev from eastern europe to siberia ala "bus" style, with a few bucket seats and hand handles on poles for support LOL
Not that it's really any harder in a plane than on a city bus, but still, right? Great picture.
20-20 of wtf went wrong with economic incentives in the West. I'm thinking a "mature" and too damn economically stratified society was our undoing.
So much treasure wasted on fashion.
There is a whole section in 'The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion' that deals with softening the Goy populations with 'fashion' and trifiling luxuries.
"We didn't fall, we were pushed"
Patton's prayer, via a priest to God (Patton had the opinion that it wasn't his job to talk to God directly on such things). Kudos on knowing it.
I think it will work even better when Putin's enemies are praying for it...against their own governments!
My bet is, it will not a Russian plane going down in the "accident".
I'll never forgive Turkey for what they did to that guy in Midnight Express. Especially when his girlfriend exposed her breast to him behind bars. I mean talk about inhumanity, man.
She was something, Yeah I hate the Turks too..
I am still pissed about those turks but-raping Lawrence of Arabia.
Talk about tragedy. That incident put him on the road to destruction. What a waste of such an uncommon talent.
Gulf of Token: I see what you did there.};{D>
Meh...might could maybe ..etc... this feels no different than cnn.
Controlled opposition.
I'm quite sure it's mostly theatrics.
People won't see/hear what they're not allowed to. (Itsncluding sites like zh unfortunately )
:/
I remember not too long ago the folks here at zh sayin that the whole Crimea 'sitch' was wwIII in the makin. 'It's on..it's sooooooo on now....ooh it's wicked so on now.'
Eat it up folks..just like your sposda.
Red pill....blue pill...it doesn't matter. Just enjoy our time here.
Just stop the arms flowing to ISIS, from the USA, and they wither and die. People are so stupid in this country, where the hell do they think these ISIS fighters are getting all of their arms?? They don't have the infrastructure to produce shit, someone is supplying them. That someone happens to be US!!
+1. Classic move. Shut down the supply lines. This time the ports.
Are we running out of fully stocked and supplied bases for ISIS to overtake? I don't think so.
Now, for the sake of appearances, we can't just drop supplies on them. So we set up a "base" somewhere in Northern Iraq, have like 3 of the worst Iraqi army "Gomer Pyle" soldiers left left behind to guard it and then radio the coordinates to the CIA spooks inside ISIS command structure.
They call it "Operation: Ringing the Dinner Bell".
Are we running out of fully stocked and supplied bases for ISIS to overtake?
Don't forget the banks with half a billion in USD cash.
And where is the Russian Black Sea Fleet home ported? Crimea, bitches.
And there's this, from Angela "it's October, please dont turn the fucking gas off" Merkel: http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151003/1027980523/merkel-admits-crimea...
^^^this. The oligarchs are global people. If Russia really wanted to make the E.Z. countries sweat or initiate WWIII they would in fact shut off all the energy to the E.Z.!!!!
Moar Air Jordans on the way for them isis folks.
But the black ones. You dont see the blood on them.
And get Israel to stop medically treating their wounded!
Now we know where all those lost trillions are going...or at least parts of it.
Is there any news here?
At a minimum Russian video shows they have smart bomb capability and want the world to know it. They are also getting some real world training where NATO pilots have gained much experience (equip/tactics/technology/weapons). This experience does not include much surface to air or an air to air threat which can make pilots too comfortable tucked safely inside their flying machines.
How is your post news? It is more like theoretical mental masturbation. Russia isn't there for practice or to show off. They are there to do a job that the West has been lying about doing for over a year. Any proper seat time their pilots get in real battle is great, but is secondary.
This last week would have been so hilarious if we hadn't seen so much death and destruction leading up to it. In under a week Russia has done what the West could note ( more like would not ) do in over a year.
Let them drop all the light and medium weapons they want. But.. in the last week ISIS has been dealt a death blow with the loss of multiple command and control centres, as well as many vehicles. I said Russia showed up to shut shit down and frankly I'm shocked at how accurate that has proven.
These fuckers have gotten their asses handed to them on a silver plate, and what's even funnier, is that now whatever "moderate" Syrian opposition there may or may not be ( low IQ idiots paid by the West / Gulf states ) are racing to give up their arms and get amnesty.
http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/over-450-militants-surrender-to-the-...
So the foreign bearded savages are currently sitting ducks, and the citizens are shitting bricks realizing that they either beg for mercy or die. This will ultimately leave the West / Nato, Gulf States, Israel with their stubbed dicks in the wind.
Maybe Erdogan will lay out a buffet for those isis pushed back into Turkey.
He'll no doubt try as him and his asshole crew have done all along. Hell, let's not forget many flew in to Incirlik airbase originally ( Bengazi anyone? ). The rough part for them is that making a run for it has become alot more hazardous to their health in the last week. Which is great for humanity and shitty for them.
Ya, except i think a lot of the CIA spooks are now BBQ courtesy of the Russian AirForce :)
BTW, totally awesome Op name
"Shut down the supply lines. This time the ports."
Then the US will just roll out the Berlin Airlift plan and start airdropping arms to the terrorists, er, rebels.
That would be never-come-back-raisinbombers. They may be allowed to turn, but they should not open the bays.
Stopping the flow of arms is much easier said than done when the USSA are selling arms via proxy a la Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, and the United Arab Emirates, and very likley Israel, Jordan, and Turkey.
If you go back and read about the multi-billion dollar arms purchases made by these countries over the past few years it all starts making sense.
It's like the USSA sells weapons to countries who hold them in trust, and in the event that the USSA needs to get involved there via proxy, there is a convenient cache to leverage and supply for that particular countries armed forces, private military contractors, local militia, and rag tag fighters who are conscripted to fight as a "moderate rebel" under threat of death and death of their families to do the bidding of the USSA & Gulf monarchies, and to ensure the continued hegemony of oil and gas resources and their distribution to markets.
To that end, the USSA military industrial congressional complex are kicking back and enjoying the show.
Getting "hands on the weapons" might get as difficult as "boots on the ground".
Arms to Syria is the real story of Bengazi. It was a consolidation point for heavy weapons bound for Syrian jihadis. It is why the House investigations have been such a farce, as they dance around any questions about the mission and only allow discussion about a few hours one night.
Chinga tu madre.
US War Deptment upset by this.
More upset by some reports of a stealth Russian radar system bing used.
Can't pin down a frequency and its not setting off threat recievers in our 'allies' cockpits.
If, and its a big IF, its true thats a game changer invaldidating trillions in development
and production in ARMs.
Just in time for our big shot Raptors (F-22) which were just sent there to "intimidate" the Ruskies ! I wonder what other surprises has Putin planned for our "observing" USAF & its most vociferous allies...
Something much more devastating I'm sure.
Amazing what not spending $600 for a hammer can probably achieve.
A lot to be said for not throwing money at problems.
Adversity is the true mother of invention.
We already know that they are cooking something...
http://aviationweek.com/defense/commentary-do-russian-radar-developments...
And then, there is the old logical contest: what's cheaper ? The big armored ship (or tank) or the projectile/missile built to destroy it ? Insert "plane" instead of ship and add "radar" to the missile element, and I'm afraid that results are quickly becoming rather dispiriting...
The inverse square law is a bitch fot radar. And Russia can't defeat physics with weapons.
Stealth radar is an oxymoron.
But suppose they have "something". Why let it be known when the war is still small? That gives time (about 6 months) for countermeasures to be developed. It is all in the software. On both sides.
What if it isn't even radar? I read somewhere that some Russian bombers navigate using a star chart system that doesn't rely on any ground or space based system. This is versus GPS. What is to say they haven't developed a passive technology that doesn't even us radar?
Maybe, but a multiphase, bandswitching system would sure screw up your lock.
seeing as NATO doctrine relies on disabling AA radars by using ARM's that lock on emitters,
it could make a lot of airjockeys days very bad.
Do not underestimate Russian engineers and scientists, none of my family does,
and they are mostly engineers and scientists.They have the highest regard for them,
and Russian is a citical language to know in science for a good reason.
It would be fun to shoot down an F-22, and blow to pieces one of the most enduring American bubbles.
P.S. Software is crap by default and, more importantly, there is no such thing as a software engineer. There you have it...
Yea, the Generals brains are rattling from all the head shaking going on.
Here from Russia Insider
A source in military circles of the American military in Turkey reported that NATO aircraft, trying to get close to the forces of the Russian Federation, has been identified by radar, and the source of the radar could not even be traced.
“The Russians have indicated that they can see everything, and getting closer is not worth it, otherwise it will be shot down”, - said the American military.
“Frankly we were surprised by the air defense system of Russia, most likely there are the latest systems S-400. I have no other ideas,” - said Colonel Jack Jacobs.
Is he not retired?
Thank you Russia! It’s nice to see what “Mission Accomplished” really means (Scott's rant)http://thesaker.is/thank-you-russia-its-nice-to-see-what-mission-accomplished-really-means-scott-rant/
"GAME. ON. " - Tonald J Drump
This is a great opportunity for Russia's military to do what the US military has been doing for decades: An all out testing of their weapons systems and military organization in wartime conditions. The HW, the organization and skills. A real fight with minor players prepares you for a big fight a lot better than shadow-boxing does.
Not to mention the PR value of its weapons and tech to its own MIC, in sales of these things to other countries. Market share must be protected where the big money is (outside of banking): energy and arms -- the two inseparable twins in the modern era. Especially when dealing with those, who would use the USD as "The One Ring To Rule Them All".
You touch on the key difference in foreign policy: America's is essentially hijacked by the mafia-like corporate interests of the "Anglo-American" banking and military industrial complex, the priority of which is to foster and perpetuate destabilization, justifying long term "interventionism" (occupation) for maximum long term cash flow and control of commerce in the authorized debt-based currency. This is the reason why proxy agents like Al Qaeda and ISIL are created, undermining international law and eliminating accountability. Russia, on the other hand, is seen in this situation to be defending a comparatively moralistic model for international affairs, such that instability and terrorist proxies are pathogens to be eliminated. The views are polarized and irreconcilable. If you sponsor a terrorist, you are a terrorist.
The "Anglo American" model is temporary and bound to fail, because it is dominated ultimately by control freaks, clinical psychopaths whose nature is to seek power. They overreach, diverting so much wealth away from the real economy that it finally collapses. As awareness grows among subject populations, there is a possibility that the outcome of this latest cycle could be unique in that the psychopaths behind the curtain are known, pre-empting some of the usual smokescreen and scapegoating employed toward the end of previous cycles.
Desyat' raundov , ogon' na porazheniye....So, same as it ever was then?
Are you suggesting that there isn't propaganda being broadcast in the west?
LMFAO!!!!
Re: intrusions of Russia Aircraft in Turkey is just more USSA BS. Turkey claims a no fly border zone intruding 5 miles into Syrian territory.
I doubt Russia gives a fuck what Erodgan says. The Kremlin knows that the Turkey President barks at the behest of his USSA masters.
Pygmy funny, barking at the giant.
"The Turkish Armed Forces are clearly instructed. Even if it is a flying bird, it will be intercepted,"
What, so non-flying birds are okay? Like chickens or for that matter Turkeys?
Mr. Meeseeks won't be able to fix this mess once it goes hot....
Rick n Morty cracks me up
time for a purge in the ME...
now, new & improved, with Purgenol
Those maintaining the dialectic do not care which side you are on as long as we are divided and they control both sides.
What about US brainwashing?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-05/useful-prep-sheet-syria-media-p...
it is not just internet in Russia, you may be surprised but there are only few state media in Russia and great many pro-Western media. Russians would tell you that most of their media is "anti-Russian" and "anti-Putin" (and paid from abroad). And even CNN freely broadcasts in Russia. Still surprised? How little Westerners know about Russia. And the irony of this. All these pro-Western media have been attacking Putin for all those years and throwing dirt on him, but Russians haven't budged.
There have also been cases, where these same pro-Western media tried to provoke panic in Russia, like when pro-Western TV channels incited panic over the falling ruble. And the Russians still didn't budge and no run on the banks happened. Russians are stubborn as hell. So many attempts for a color revolution in Russia. So many pro-Western media there. So many foreign NGOs and agitators. Yet, nothing has worked with the Russians. One of the Western-sponsored activists recently even said that: "We have lost hope for any kind of pro-democratic revolution in Russia. There is something wrong with them (Russians). I am now sure that it is hopeless. The problem is not in Putin himself. After this Putin, there will be another Putin. The level of agressiveness and stuborness of this population, which makes Putin Putin, has not been decreasing and I don't think they will ever change."
This is because the West do not understand Russians at all. As Larry King said: "I have often heard Russians complaining that: If you (Americans) look at the Chinese, you know that they are different then you. If you look at us, you think we are the same as you. But we are not. And why should we even try to be like you?? We are just happy being ourselves."
>>>>One of the Western-sponsored activists recently even said that: "We have lost hope for any kind of pro-democratic revolution in Russia. There is something wrong with them (Russians).<<<<
And was this activist a Russian?
If he or she was then it is surprising the lack of understanding of his/her own people.
If it was a foreigner then the Russians should find this person and put a bullet in the head.
No one should be screwing around with another country like that. I would certainly expect that done to anyone trying to distabilize the US.
This activist was a Russian citizen. But he was also Jewish. There, I said it:-) Now he is already living in Israel, because he "does not want to spend his life dealing with this Russian nonsense." There are many more like him. I wonder if they will be so happy in Israel, but I have no doubt that Russians will be much happier without them! Western newspapers wrote about this with titles like: Jews Again Leaving Russia Because ‘After Putin, There Will Be Another Putin’
"I would certainly expect that done to anyone trying to distabilize the US."
It´s done already. Inside job.
You are the same. You are just as Nationalistic and worship your enslavers.
You are neither superior or inferior.
But you believe yourself to be special, exceptional, due to the geographical area whereupon you were nurtured...just like Americans.
You are just as much of a warmonger as anyone else. Your hypocrisy is outstanding. You are just as evil as any of theNEOCON trash here in the USSA.
You will never rise above it as you cannot confront the inherent dishonesty within yourself.
You are happy in your sadness? Well you are right about one item. The problem is NOT Putin. The problem lies deep within your own psyche.
Exactly correct. People don't understand Russian history so they are clueless as to why the Russian people behave as they do. The bottom line is Russia is a very hostile land rich in natural resources in a very hostile climate. As such they have been invaded by many outside factions throughout history. These facts have produced a very hearty and tough people that only respect and support strong leaders. This not only was true in the case of the Tzars, but also going all the way back to the influence of the Tartar Mongols that ruled Russian territory for decades. USSA people are completely ignorant about history and how it forms the basis for why people behave as they do today.
"as such they have been invaded" hmmm, maybe the logical order of events is backwards.
Strong leaders and Tatar invaders? Not sure. Check out the Germans for the love of strong leaders. What is their excuse? Forget history, they have Merkel taking them straight down and they love her.
You probably fucked 2-colored goat, I think.
The girl transferred me to the officer on duty, who very politely explained: "Even before the military operation in Syria, the General staff of the Defense Ministry made a responsible decision. The essence of this solution lies in our traditional Russian desire to adhere strictly to the principles of legality and justice. So now, all of our munitions are divided into two categories: regular and moderate. Against ordinary terrorists, we use only conventional munitions. Against moderate terrorists, we use solely moderate ammunition. So don't worry, we take into account the moderation of some of the terrorists and treat them with justice."
After these words, I felt relieved. But I still asked: "Do you really use exclusively moderate ammo against moderate terrorists, is this true?!"
The source said: "Word of honor!".
I felt much better. To clarify, I asked: "Tell me, how your conventional munitions differ from the moderate?"
"Our conventional munitions differ from moderate exactly the same as regular terrorists in Syria are different from the moderate terrorists: they are painted with different paint, in a lighter and more moderate tones," - said the officer and hung up.
http://fortruss.blogspot.com.cy/2015/10/russian-justice-moderate-ammo-fo...
Well, they can, so my guess is that they will if they need to. Enjoy the circuses sheeple, because the bread is running out...
same as it ever was.
Hey Putin! Since you're in the neighbourhood... could you put a naval blockade between Turkey and Greece? Thanks.
Gee and just imagine what will become of freeloader, war without end (for free) USSA when the Saudi Mercan toilet paper dollah clogging the global sewer is finally plunged and flushed out of the Ponzi bowl back to the USSA and the free lunch for exceptional psychopaths is over?
Get out of USSA now while you still can!
And go where? Everyone hates us thanks to . Gov
I see this ending by the US being invaded by hoards and us disarmed, they gut us in the streets for our Bush/Bama votes.
seriously I can see it.
No way will you get gutted.
Too much lard to cut through.
You a bit wrong. Everyone hate US Gov probably, American citizens in this situation are mostly victims.
Turkey can go fuck itself. Meanwhile gooooooo Vlad!
Turkey is cool with the whole thing. It's NATO that is trying to make it into an incident;
https://www.rt.com/news/317696-turkey-russia-airspace-mistake/
I agree with you that that is what this article says but 12-15 hours ago, there was a report that the Russian Ambassador had been summoned and that Turkey had made a formal complaint and would refer the matter to NATO. I don't remember exactly which feed it came from and I can't find it now - but I do remember that is what it said. Looks like a decision has been taken to remove some steam from the situation, which is a good idea.
Try this: http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/05/middleeast/syria-russia-airstrikes/ind...
Thanks for that. Most of the reports are now largely ad idem (with a bit of variation) but the report I read earlier portrayed a far more beligerant Turkey - maybe it was just bad reporting. Frankly, if Turkey accepts it was a mistake and did not feel it necessary to make an official report to NATO, then why is NATO involved at all over this incident? There are also headlines such as: "NATO says Russia should not target Syria opposition." Since Russia has been requested to become involved by Syria, you really have to ask WTF business is it of NATO what Russia/Syria decide to target within Syria?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-CY8DQnmhQ
Nice footage of Russian jets landing and taxiing in Syria.
Su34 Fullback landing with it's platypus nose. Cool jet.
Su25 Frogfoot getting ready to take off and it looks like a Mi31 (?) landing.
The plane that lands at the end of the video is the Su-24 Fencer.
The plane seen landing at the end of the video is a Su-24.
Edit: Zwelgje beat me to it.
Edit 2:
Russian ministry of defense put up a new video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyeAE_ryCQM
It shows a Su-24M dropping bombs and destroying an assembled group of about 30 armored and ordinary vehicles.
Russia 60 terrorist command centers, and ammo stashes in 4 days
US 2 Excavators in over a year
HA, Now Iraq has invited Russian Aviation to help them and establish a joint command center with Iran, Russia and Syria. And the US is trying to throw up road blocks,
Thing is, we were never trying to kill ISIS. A few token sorties here and there to give the impression we were bombing them.
I never thought I would live long enough to see the day Iran and Iraq are willing to be on the same team. I think the whole world has finally waken up.
US foreign policy at its finest.
It may have not been the target, but in this regard the nobel prize win is deserved.
Yep. 25 years of destabilizing their nations and then bombing them for their own good has finally gotten old for them. Imagine that.
It's obvious now that Iraq could never exist without a brutal dictator like Saddam to keep the Sunnis Shiities and Kurds from killing each other. Without a Western occupying force of at least 200,000 men forever, Iraq is destined to be broken up. The Southeast will be absorbed by Iran, the North into the new Kurdistan, leaving the barren West to be what is left of Iraq. Total FUBAR.
Turkey never tried to kill ISIS. It tries to eliminate kurds.
Dropping them supplied
was way more than a few...
Our interests have always been to maintain the perpetual war so that we can maintain the perpetual PAC donation cycle. Money has to be spent by the taxpayers before it comes back to traitors and backstabbers in congress for reelection campaigns.
Dumbass Americans have always thought it was about something else, because the media told them so.
"2 Excavators in over a year"
Is THIS the broken window plan to jump start CAT sales?
They would be more than happy to bomb more of those for that purpose, however deliveries from CAT have been a bit slow, apparently...
And one hospital...
To compensate for missing excavators, I assume...
And a lot of weddings, 'cause they haven't been gay enough.
haha! Can you imagine the outrage at the BBC and elsewhere if the Russians accidentally bombed a sodomite "wedding" party?
Byzantium 2.0
Erodgan is an asshole. time for regime change
Had to junk you for that post...I'm pretty sure the U.S. has fucked up enough of the world in the name of "Regime Change".
Unless you forgot your /sarc tag.
I say that about Obama all the time. Still there, though.
Try doing ALL the "what ifs", and you'll have a different perspective.
Putin, can you drop off some armaments to Ferguson and the other inner cities too, brothas need some destabilaztion too; thx!
Putin, can you please drop a bomb on Ankara ?
"The hard part about playing chicken is knowing when to flinch..."
Ba ba BWAAAK.
republicans make obama flinch. he can really beat only the (relatively) unarmed (foreign policy) or the absolutely defenseless (domestic).
this should be an eye opener for him and, possibly, victoria nuland and the rest of the zionist masters.
erdogay
Put some nukes in syria... Putin... maybe that will get Dear leader off the links
Looks like it's time to separate the men from the boys in the Russian navy.
Somebody go get a crowbar!
That's the US Navy. See link below....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InBXu-iY7cw
With Obama's new military transgender policy the new generals and Admirals require woman converted to men.
Just an FYI - you responded to a "Troll"...check out their MO.
For the last time, the first name of the Russian president is VLADIMIR (Volodia for shorts), not "Vlad" which is an entirely different name.
And it's not "Vladimir V. Putin" like they hilariously call him at the Pentagon/Fox News. In Russian, that would be either Vladimir Putin or, if you only want to use his first name, Vladimir Vladimirovitch.
There. I've said it.
Thanks for the clarification, but I doubt it will be for the last time. Everybody has his mind made up, you see.
The NYT referred to him as "Vladimir V. Putin" when he did an op-ed for them.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/12/opinion/putin-plea-for-caution-from-ru...
Vladimir. hhmmm. Can't we just call him Vlad for short. You know...
Aren't Russian ships full of ammo passing thru the Bosphorus to reach Syria ?
Turkey can block the entire black see fleet there ?
Only in time of war (Montreux convention I think) - but then there would be a naval fight and I would not put much stock into the Turkish navy.
I have not been there but believe it is narrow enough that it can be effectively blockaded from shore. It is an ace that Turkey has and while Russia will have thought of how to react it would get messy. Something like that could cause Russia to make a commitment to real war in the region, not just some bomb on insurgents. By commitment I mean willingness to exchange some test fire with NATO. Now is the time for Turkey to reapply for NATO membership if that is what they still want. NATO might let them in now just to fortify the passage. Which might get things going as well.
I would expect them to clear fortifications around said narrow areas before attempting to pass through!
So would I. But do they need fortifications? Mobile units should be sufficient to cover the distance. It seems to have the potential to be a tricky situation. The leadership of Turkey is interested in their own bank accounts and power first, so Russia may simply keep them happy (or be clear how unhappy they could become).
Another poster also showed that my commet about NATO is incorrect. Turkey is in NATO, I thought they got rejected. So this can get interesting if any shots are fired. Will Turkey get brave in the south by using their NATO membership to play chicken with Russia?
Agreed, it could easily become messy. As you say, bribery (heard about the size of Erdogan's vast palace the other day, so he'll be game - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30061107) may be a viable option. I'd be surprised if Turkey tried to pull a stunt like that however as the ramifications would be heavy on the downside for him.
Turkey is in NATO, I thought they got rejected. So this can get interesting if any shots are fired. Will Turkey get brave in the south by using their NATO membership to play chicken with Russia?
Turkey was a member of NATO even before 1962 as the USSA had Nukes stationed there. (That was what we removed in response to the Soviet removal of the Nukes from Cuba during the Cuban Missile Crisis.
Yes this will get interesting. If Russia nails any NATO member, even by accident, then it can escalate into a Thermonuclear Holocaust quite rapidly.
Yeah Russia. Shoot down one NATO jet. That way the USSA has its Pearl Harbor to do the preemptive Thermonuclear Strike.
Yeah Russia. Go Russia go.
The Human Race deserves extinction.
Maybe. But the US has a long and illustrious history of chucking its allies under the bus when it suits them.
These speculations are waste of time.
Blocking Bosporus would literally be a formal declaration of war by Turkey.