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Did Obama Bomb Doctors Without Borders for Opposing TPP?
By Claire Bernish of AntiMedia
Had the President of Nobel Peace Prize-winning Doctors Without Borders not warned us of the “imminent threat to global health” posed by the TPP, would these 22 doctors and patients have lost their lives early Saturday?
“I don’t know exactly how long, but it was maybe half an hour afterwards that they stopped bombing. I went out with the project coordinator to see what had happened. What we saw was the hospital destroyed, burning,” describednurse Lajos Zoltan Jecs of the U.S. bombardment of a hospital in Kunduz, Afghanistan.
Harsh criticism and skepticism surround what is being labeled an errant U.S. bombardment of a hospital in Kunduz that left 22 people dead — many of them volunteers with Médecins sans Frontières (Doctors without Borders, the humanitarian aid agency) — but doubt lingers about the vague official story for a reason.
Doctors Without Borders Calls Airstrike a War Crime
“Why did they have to blow up the whole hospital?” pleaded Nasratullah, whose 25-year-old cousin Akbar was among doctors killed in the bombing.“We know that the Americans are very clever. If they can target a single person in a car from their planes, why did they have to blow up the whole building?”
The ostensible explanation according to rumor centered on reports Taliban forces had entered the location and were using the cover of the hospital to fire on coalition forces.
Christopher Stokes, MSF General Director, irately stated, “Not a single member of our staff reported fighting inside the MSF hospital compound prior to the U.S. airstrike Saturday morning. The hospital was full of MSF staff, patients, and their caretakers. It is 12 MSF staff members and ten patients, including three children, who were killed in the attack.”
Is something being overlooked?
“U.S. forces conducted an airstrike in Kunduz City at 2:15 am [local time] on 3 October against individuals threatening the force. The strike may have resulted in collateral damage to a nearby medical facility. This incident is under investigation,” stated international coalition spokesperson, Col. Brian Tribus.
“This attack is abhorrent and a grave violation of international humanitarian law,” declared MSF President, Meinie Nicolai. “We demand total transparency from coalition forces. We cannot accept that this horrific loss of life will simply be dismissed as ‘collateral damage.’”
Reports from the scene indicate MSF had not only notified all warring parties in the region of the exact GPS coordinates for the hospital and its outlying buildings, but that doctors immediately notified forces the moment the hospital came under fire from a U.S. airstrike — and, even then, the attack continued for a full 30 minutes.
Stokes found that suggestion wholly inadequate, adding:
“Under clear presumption that a war crime has been committed, MSF demands that a full and transparent investigation into the event be conducted by an independent international body. Relying only on an internal investigation by a party to the conflict would be wholly insufficient.”
So why did the attack continue, much less happen in the first place?
Doctors Without Borders Vocally Opposes the TPP
If circumstances of any incident appear not to add up, it’s pertinent to thoroughly examine the current narrative for signs the State is attempting to mold public opinion — because it is there you will find the truth that you’re not being told.
In the case of MSF, a massive treaty cum trade deal involving U.S. interests in another part of the world from the tragedy in Kunduz can offer, perhaps, insight which might otherwise seem unrelated. As it turns out, MSF have been particularly vocal critics of the impending Trans-Pacific Partnership — and their criticism hasn’t gone unnoticed.
As reported in the National Journal in May:
“It’s not usual business for us, and the reason is because we’re very worried,” explained Judit Rius Sanjuan, whooversees Doctors Without Borders drug access campaign, in a phone interview. “We are doing anything we can to make sure the public is aware.”
Though the Nobel Prize-winning group has actively but reservedly opposed the massive TPP deal for years, recent letters to President Obama and a campaign of subway ads on the D.C. Metro show a more urgent, public push. Sanjuan admitted such a robust effort “is not usual practice for us.”
What is so pressing for the public to know that it led the group to abandon its typically subdued tone?
Simply, drug costs. Specifically, the intellectual property and patent laws that will favor drug companies should the TPP take effect.
Protecting Profit vs. Saving Lives
“It would force them to change the law of many of these countries that are currently negotiating to create new intellectual property protections for pharmaceutical drugs, including but not limited to patents,” Sanjuan explained about the deal as exposed by WikiLeaks in 2013. “The effects of these new obligations would limit generic competition and therefore increase the cost of medicine.”
This has put Médecins sans Frontières “at odds with the White House,” as the National Journal delicately described. A recent letter to Obama from MSF clearly alluded to the humanitarian nature of the group’s opposition to the trade deal:
“MSF believes this is essential to closing the gap in access to medicines to millions of people around the world. The TPP could be an opportunity to make significant progress toward these goals. Instead, in its current state, the TPP is a threat to the health of millions.”
As evidenced in the Kunduz hospital bombing and numerous military campaigns in the Middle East and elsewhere, the human toll likely isn’t the priority first called to mind by the U.S. government.
Profit, on the other hand, must be protected no matter the human cost.
After this attack, MSF decided to pull its operations from Kunduz for the foreseeable future. As Jecs lamented,
“The hospital, it has been my workplace and home for several months. Yes, it is just a building. But it is so much more than that. It is healthcare for Kunduz. Now it is gone. What is the benefit of this? Destroying a hospital and so many lives, for nothing. I cannot find words for this.”
With the number of questions being raised, we will continue to look into the incident further.
* * *
Doctors Without Borders released a statement following the conclusion of TPP negotiations in Atlanta:
“Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) expresses its dismay that TPP countries have agreed to United States government and multinational drug company demands that will raise the price of medicines for millions by unnecessarily extending monopolies and further delaying price-lowering generic competition. The big losers in the TPP are patients and treatment providers in developing countries. Although the text has improved over the initial demands, the TPP will still go down in history as the worst trade agreement for access to medicines in developing countries, which will be forced to change their laws to incorporate abusive intellectual property protections for pharmaceutical companies.”
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Didn't we "accidentally" bomb the French embassy in Tripoli a decade or so back after the French refused to let us cross their airspace from England to carry out air strike sorties in Libya again Kadhaffi? (...or however the fuck you spell his name)
16 years ago, to even consider this action plausible would likely get you laughed at and ridiculed.
Today, I can see it happening exactly as it is described...
Sad world we live in now...
Obammy would bomb anyone who gets in his way. Who are we kidding?
Turns out there was a wedding in the hospital chapel that day.
Figures.
We blew up an aspirin factory in Sudan, when Bill Clinton was 'not having sexual relations with that woman, Ms Monica Lewinsky'. The funny thing is, the movie "Wag the Dog" was released about 3 weeks before that entire debacle.
I still don't know if the Lewinsky affair was to provide cover for the bombing, or the bombing was to take attention off the Lewinsky affair, but the media certainly were quick to forget all about the bombing of a medicine factory, on the other side of the world!
(BTW, the main character in Wag the Dog is named Stanley, and is based on Stanley Kubrick, who uuh... did some work for the US government, in the late 60s, early 70s AKA Apollo, to take heat off the US war efforts in Vietnam).
O BOMB a care. Give that man another Peace Prize!
That fucker would bomb his daddy if he knew who it was, if he opposed him.
What hasn't that filthy lying racist homosexual muslim negro lied about?
The U.S. military did comparable things over and over again. The "chemical weapons" fabric in Sudan has already been mentioned. Or do you remember the bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade in 1999? The U.S. ridicously claimed it had used an outdated map. So far, they have always come away with it. A clash with a highly regarded international humanitarian organization has the potential to change this record.
Let's just hope that the incident is blown up (no pun intended) big enough to to kill the TPP chances of ratification.
TPP? Just wait until Obama starts bombing those who oppose the PPT.
I heard the Chinese embassy bomb was aimed at a downed stealth fighter wreckage stored there. Rumor, it had a transponder.
This is supposedly the hospital on Google Maps. It should not have been difficult to identify and avoid.
We need to arrest that mother fucker. That is flat out murder.
Clinton blew up a Chinese embassy. He got a blowjob too!
you gotta wonder if that rumor of Obama trying to nuke Charleston had some substance to it
The fudgepacker needs to have its skin sandpapered off, buried in salt then left n the middle of the Iran desert with a can of Pennzoil. The devil incarnate.
Should be O...bomb...a
So, why does DWOB even have an opinion on TPP? Why bomb them for opposition when you could bomb members of your own party or RNC?
Kind of a silly title for an article.
Why bother to comment on an article you obviously did not read?
So, they were bombed because they opposed higher drug costs? Who else could be bombed for that?
My point is they are theoretically above politics. If you get bombed for being political why in Afghanistan?
The whole thing is a stupid article.
Not really...
Korean War
Vietnam War
Haiti "War"
Grenada "War"
Panama Coke "War"
Somalia "War"
On and on.....
16 years....are you kidding? Try 60 years...
EDIT: heCK, DID i FORGET:
Iran Mossadegh Coup
Chile Allende Coup
The Great Nicaraguan mis-adventure, Ollie North et. al
Yes, I know about all those, it's like they've ramped up the ridiculousness though... and I won't even talk about the "social issues" of feminizing all men under the age of 25, that's a different rant...
Lot's to rant about, no doubt...
Feminizing all men under 25. Hmm. Until the day I see men running around playing with Barbie dolls and dressed in skirts, then I'd say that America is still a man's country, run by men.
Take a look around. Lots of young girls running around wearing sports outfits and driving trucks.
I'll wake you up if the scenario I describe ever pans out, Tom. I think you'll still be sleeping for quite some time.
you haven't spent alot of time around large numbers of suburban youth.
its pretty bad
You are not paying attention. The destruction of traditional gender roles is ongoing in both directions for at least 25 years now. You're right; lots of women who are now convinced they have to "be men" to get ahead. Destroys women and more importantly destroys the traditional caregivers for children. Meanwhile, men are now shamed or, worse yet, exposed to the legal system, if they dare to defend their traditional role as assertive and confident decision makers.
You're mistaking "men" for men. Males in today's society are a screwed up lot. That said, women are screwed up too. Political correctness has degraded our culture more thoroughly and more rapidly than many, including myself, ever thought possible.
http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/921_frankfurt.html
Well over 100 years.
I vote for the same black ops who shot down Seal team 6. Although, someone (like Iran, the drone hackers) could've hacked the computers and changed the coordinates. The US military would never admit it, if it happened.
I don't think the US was responsible for starting or engineering the Korean war. True, if the US had stayed out of it the Communist North might have swept through quickly and it would have been over with one central government.
Chicago-style thug politics.
There is no way Obama will be held accountable for this. He can bomb at will without repercussions.
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Oh, absolutely agreed. He's already known to have bombed wedding parties and all kinds of heinous stuff. But this wasn't who-gives-a-shit-all-those-brown-people-look-alike-to-me deaths. These are doctors doing some fairly corageous stuff to help people for no pay. Including Americans. Little tougher to sweep under the rug.
Then again, I always said Obama could shoot a 10 year old blind girl to death in the Rose Garden and nothing would happen, so maybe I need to listen to my own advice more.
Funny. My hubby and I always would say that GWB could choke a puppy while raping a three-year-old in the White House and nothing would happen.
Funnier still is, I agree with you in your scenario.
Funny all around, huh?
Yeah. Just not "ha ha" funny. More like "oh, shit" funny.
In all honesty, GWB would be getting MUCH harsher treatment in the media for this incident. Not like anything would be done about it, but he'd get raked over the coals by the MSM for months. Obama it's like "oh, well, he didn't push the button himself, so no sense in even talking about it".
We probably don't agree on much, but I agree with you there. All of it.
Right. GWB professed to be a Christian(true or not). That's a huge target for the atheistic media. They know that Barack HUSSEIN Obomba isn't.
"Obama could shoot a 10 year old blind girl to death in the Rose Garden and nothing would happen,"
Things would definitely happen: Obama would call for more gun control.
And after desecrating the corpse, he'd sell it to Planned Parenthood and ban childbirth.
Obama's just a puppet. You could have any mainstream Republicrat in, and it'd be the same.
You know, back in medieval times, we all know they had Kings. Royalty.
What is less well-known is even then, 500+ years ago, there were KING MAKERS. Yes, thats right, King-makers. People who literally decided who would become King. Once the selection was made, the PR team got to work on the 'royal ancestry' and 'lineage' and 'right to rule' to convince the masses the decision was made in accordance with this or that precedent (Salic Law, blah blah blah).
So in Russia they would 'magically' trace your descent back to Genghis Khan and Ryurik, even if you were a simple serf who became a soldier, and worked your way up. "Well, he was actually the bastard child of XXX and we knew all along, and now that he has been acknowledged/his father has died, its only right that _____ assume the throne as our lawful sovereign."
That was the first thing that came to my mind.
And didm't Ron Brown's plane fly into the side of a mountain.?
Washington’s war crime in Afghanistan
6 October 2015The massacre of 22 people—12 doctors, nurses and other medical personnel, along with 10 patients, three of them children—in Saturday’s airstrike on the Doctors Without Borders/Médecins Sans Frontières (MSF) medical center in Kunduz, Afghanistan is an appalling war crime for which the US military and Obama administration are responsible.
On Monday, the top US commander in Afghanistan admitted that a US warplane carried out the deadly attack, while seeking to shift the blame onto Afghan puppet troops for calling it in.
“An air strike was then called to eliminate the Taliban and several civilians were accidentally struck,” Gen. John Campbell told a Pentagon press conference. This account is at odds with the Pentagon’s initial story that US special forces troops had come under fire and called in the airstrike.
The plane involved was an AC-130, nicknamed the “Angel of Death,” a huge, slow-flying aircraft equipped with multiple cannons, rockets and bombs that is capable of circling a target for long periods, delivering devastating firepower. The Pentagon has boasted about this flying fortress’s ability to strike targets with “pinpoint accuracy,” in this case a huge, well-marked hospital.
Survivors of the attack described horrific scenes, with patients burning in their beds and doctors and nurses covered in blood from multiple grievous wounds.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/10/06/pers-o06.html
One thing I can guarantee you is that MSF are direct witnesses to numerous war crimes and by virtue of what they do, have direct information on who is supporting whom. The attacks (they have been repeatedly attacked) are in very high probability intentional.
"The strike may have resulted in collateral damage to a nearby medical facility."
We know the taget was the hospital, so what is the nearby medical facility they also damaged?
The obviouse question, which nobody is asking, is if they were responding to "Taliban Forces" firing from within the Hospital, how many did we kill, and where are their bodies, or did we manage to kill all civillians and not one of these guys?
It has been four days now and four 'official explanations' - today's version, from General John Campbell, in testimony to a Senate panel, is that: US special operations forces – not the Afghan allies – called in the deadly airstrike on the hospital. Not what he said at yesterday's Pentagon press conference.
Does it fill you with confidence - no, me neither.
Nobel Peace Prize winner needs to be trialed for war crimes. And all the other muppets that were before him too.
If Obama was not a black democrat you'd be hearing about this every day and night on the MSM news outlets for weeks. As it stands currently..... crickets.
Half black.
100% nigger.
The point being, not "white."
I'm against the TPP! Come and bomb me fuckers!
Hold the line for a moment, please...
As Apple is giving the NSA my coordinates, I am retreating to my bomb shelter...
I know this is just dark humor, but it really is getting to the point where we have nothing left to lose. Once there, NO act of defiance is off the table, if they bring this shit to my front door. I just hope I'm not the only one to realize that once the time comes...and it will. SOON.
Obama this. Obama this. Listen. This bi-sexual crackhead makes NO decisions. Zero. Zip. Nada. Maybe he gets to choose when Reggie can pound him but I bet even that is dick-tated too him. No pun intended.
No, they didn't.
Why is everything a fucking conspiracy?
Retarded article.
pods
Oh, come on. Where's your sense of fun and adventure? (I didn't down-vote you)
Okay, fine. :)
Well, I did see a news report where someone asked that question to some nervous giggles in the crowd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Have we all lost our minds?
pods
Well, if ever a comment deserved a downvote, yours did. So that's one from me. With conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory turning to fact, it is high time to stop ridiculing them and take them seriously. You remind me of Glen Beck who would ridicule the daylights out of 9-11 truthers, but push hard on the conspiracy theories to which he subscribed.
simpleprinciple
Well I appreciate the comment. Let's flesh this out a bit then,k?
Doctors without borders opposes the TPP, ostensibly on the grounds that the TPP would lead to higher medical costs?
So the Obama administration (that is who is being accused here) hatches up a plan to bomb a DWB clinic in order to punish them for their opposition?
Is that what you are wanting me to accept as fact?
That the executive branch somehow hatched a plan to get a mole inside the action with the express purpose of taking out a hospital by using an AC 130 gunship and a set of false coodinates for a fire mission?
And this would benefit them how? The press certainly seems to not really be behind the administration on this one. They are catching a hell of a lot of (deserved) flak.
Is this going to change DWB stance on the TPP? How many CONgresscritters does DWB own? Versus the corporations that wrote and own the TPP. Many who are actually donors to DWB and corporate partners with DWB or some of their initiatives.
http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/support-us/corporate-support/corpor...
http://www.dndi.org/partnership/overview-partnership.html
I have not heard enough of Glen Beck to know his MO, so I cannot touch that one.
Have I said anything about the facade of 911 being fact?
See, I actually LOOK at the circumstances, the benefactors, and the reasoning behind every "conspiracy theory" and dismiss ones that do not pass the smell test.
Take the JFK was shot for EO 11110 BS. So many, even here, ascribe that JFK was some hero who was going to take on the FED and save us, only to be shot.
I found a piece that took a deep look at the issue, and looked at each of the EO's in question.
So I do not merely dismiss one's I don't like, I look at what facts are around, and then decide.
But, if you mean I don't emotionally latch on to whatever will benefit me the most, well, for that I am guilty.
pods
Due diligence. Nice.
I really like your comments--but---you're saying if his motive is this or that then the action is lesser or greater in criminality?? or did i get it wrong----
seems to me if the US bombed the hospital its a war crime and deserves the worst --regardless of the motive or circumstances (or conspiricy theory)---just sayin--
No, probably just you and yours.
I did. Because NOTHING is too crazy to believe any more. All things are on the table these days.
Never underestimate the ineptitude of any govt. organization.
BTW, RE: "Why is everything a fucking conspiracy?" - Remember, ZH is not just some financial site, or a news aggregator. It is a dedicated anti-western wrecking ball.
Q: Besides, what's the worst that can happen when you make everything a conspiracy? A: You discredit any analysis of actual conspiracies.
It lasted 30 minutes! It wasn't just an errant missile. 30 minutes is a long attack. Imagine a C-130 circling your house for 30 minutes, dropping ordinance on you. If this is the way it played out, that C-130 has to be black ops. Otherwise, the pilot will be dragged in front of a military court as a sacrificial lamb.
The US government seemingly tends to bomb people that they want to radicalize.
Although how radical mothers in delivery and an old guy on a respirator wielding a bed pan can get is beyong me.
Maybe the US government wants to radicalize someone they think they can beat in a war.
(disclaimer: the views of the US government in no way reflect the views of the American people)
Find out to whom those doctors are related. Any European politicians?
Maybe, maybe not, but Obama is the first Nobel Prize winner in history to bomb another Nobel Prize winner. Success. https://twitter.com/WTFRLY/status/651430508669198336
We should take those weapons away from them northern gun nuts. Before they hurt themselves . Col R lee McStant
"“We know that the Americans are very clever. If they can target a single person in a car from their planes, why did they have to blow up the whole building?”
Right to the heart of it. Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer.
I guess they want us to believe they don't have access to even Google Earth level of detail in Kunduz?
Murderous psychopathic bastards.
how quaint - thinking the manchurian actor actually makes any decisions. he does as he's told and reads aloud what's put in front of him.
obama did this. obama did that.
distraction.
we are an occupied nation and our president is an actor following orders. that's all.
this article is preposterous. even if obama did 'run the country' why the fuck would he order bombs dropped on an obscure (to most americans) organization for their opposition to almost-set-in-stone secret legislation which would only bring unwanted attention to the TPP as it sails down the home stretch.
more likely - this is part of the carefully crafted 'american collapse/east rising' narrative.
Why would he do it? Maybe because big pharma ordered the hit?
A little hyperbole there . . . but how much, really?
Why not?
Clinton and NATO bombed Serbia for less.
And don't forget, we blew up the Chinese consulate in Belgrade with pinpoint accuracy, got the exact windows on the 17th floor--but that was a mistake too. Relax and buy the dips.
When you elect a commander in chief that's never served in the military what do you expect?
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Maybe, maybe not.
But it'll be virtually impossible to get evidence to prove. And Washington is already saying the airstrike was called in by local Afghans.
what a load of rubbish. slow market day ZH commentators?
If you can't see the fun in an article like this you probably don't get MDB's satire, either.
I am self-admittedly the world's WORST conspiracy theorist. But even I can have some good ol' ZH tinfoil hat fun in an article like this one. I mean, seriously, even if it were true there will never be any proof of it. So why not just imagine for a moment it was true?
Oh for god's sake, the strike was called in by AFGHAN FORCES who undoubtably gave lat/lon coordinates! Ya' think there might be more than a few in that crowd who would intentionally do that, just as the Vietcong called in airstrikes on US troops in Vietnam by intruding into comm networks with captured radios and posing as ARVIN forces? Sheesh, get a clue people.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/05/asia/afghanistan-doctors-without-borders-h...
As was revealed in earlier coverage of this incident, the GPS co-ordinates of MSF's hospital had been conveyed to all of the belligerent parties. Therefore this attempt to blame the Afghan authorities for what was clearly a premeditated crime is pure BS. Furthermore, anyone who would regard this attack as being an 'accident' would also be daft enough to believe that NEADS failed four times on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001 because of a "failure of imagination".
"...In fact, the fire from the AC-130 appears to have been so accurate that only the hospital building itself was hit, and not residential buildings located in the same cramped Doctors Without Borders compound, said one of the officials,..
...The military’s “description of the attack keeps changing — from collateral damage, to a tragic incident, to now attempting to pass responsibility to the Afghanistan government,” Christopher Stokes, the general director of Doctors Without Borders, said in the statement.
“The reality is the U.S. dropped those bombs. The U.S. hit a huge hospital full of wounded patients and M.S.F. staff,” his statement continued, referring to the group by the initials of its French name, Médecins Sans Frontières. “The U.S. military remains responsible for the targets it hits, even though it is part of a coalition. There can be no justification for this horrible attack.”..."
Hospital staff have reported they called US military officials and begged them to stop but it continued for 30 minutes. Patients in Intensive Care were burning in their beds. There was nothing doctors could do. Doctors Without Borders' medical staff and their patients were targeted because they were neutral to the war and treated all patients.
The message is clear. Doctors With Borders are fine and even granted subsidies from Obamacare if those doctors are exceptional.
nothing would surprise me
I dont think Obama knows wtf he is bombing or who he is funding and arming.
The MSF spokesman on CNN this lunchtime was brilliantly cool and clear.
MSF had given GPS coordinates to every one involved and had been working there since 2011. The building was well marked and known to all the players.
When the attack started they immediately called all their contacts.
The attack continued for 30 minutes.
No one with weapons is allowed to enter the compound under any cricumstances.
The compund was quiet up to the attack.
Clearly an investigation by one of the guilty parties will not suffice.
Some credit ti CNN for airing the inteview. How did that happen?
The strike was called in BY AFGHAN FORCES. Ya' think there's more than a few in that group who'd actually be working for "the other side?"
Jesus, get a f'ing clue, people.
Watch:
"This Is What Winning Looks Like" is a disturbing new HBO documentary about the ineptitude, drug abuse, sexual misconduct, and corruption of the Afghan security forces as well as the reduced role of US Marines due to the troop withdrawal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ja5Q75hf6QI
So you expect people to believe the people sitting in thier airconditioned command centers, micro-managing virtually every airstrike, giving the kill command for virtually every target, don't know what is where in Kunduz after all these years of war???
Many times less believable than the Israelis excuse for their murderous attack on the Liberty after circling it with recon planes all morning on a crystal clear day.
"Before Gen Campbell's Senate appearance, America had been cautious about accepting responsibility. They first said that the strikes were to protect US troops, and then changed their story to imply that their aircraft was simply responding to an Afghan request. But now they have taken much more blame for the mistake.
Gen Campbell said that US special forces "were in close vicinity" to the MSF hospital and were "talking to the aircraft" that launched the attack."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11915407/America-admits-mistakenly-bombing-MSFs-Kunduz-hospital-in-Afghanistan.html
If CNN is reporting, then what's the ulterior motive? Total withdrawal from Afghanistan? That'll push narcotics prices back up, once the Taliban completes recapture of the country.
No. It would indicate a degree of competence in the US government that is not there.
Wouldn't surprise me. I said from the start, Obama is a warmonger with Daddy Issues he even wrote a book about growing up without his father. Then he spoke only via teleprompter. Highly suspect from the get-go. As far as I'm concerned, electing him says more about the idiocy of the American electorate than when Dubya got in.
I'd say the idiocy is equal.
Then I'd say it's YOU who is the idiot.
TPP, another extra Constitutional pile of shit. So secret "we have to pass it before we can see what's in it". Trump hates it on the right. Sanders hates it on the left, so bend over...President Chalky passes it.
No...it was to wipe out witnesses/victims to all the Afghan child rapes. Get with the program!
It always gets ugly when sociopaths run free. The real losers from the TPP are the majority of people that are NOT sociopathic. That's the two sides at battle: The sociopathic bullies against everyone else. Just like the story of Atlantis, and the sociopaths won. What did they win? They blew up their world.
relax, those were just freedom bombs
It's always an "accident" or a "mistake" or some other countries fault when the US does this. Remember when the US bombed the Chinese Embassy? God forbid if Russia did this the US would be screaming, war crimes, atrocities, war crimes.
Do you think that it is a coincidence that as the Russians start their air war in Syria, with "dramatic" success, that the US just happens to bomb a hospital in Afganistan for the first time after 14 years of dropping bombs without any equivalent misguided munitions. Sounds like propaganda fodder. Do you think that the helicopter full of navy seals that was shot down within a month of the bin laden assination was a coincidence too?
ZH hate the central bankers and US policy but your russiaphile stuff should really be re examined
MSF's first mistake was to give out their "exact GPS coordinates." That's what enabled U.S. forces to bomb them with such precision.
This is MSF's second mistake. Don't demand an investigation. Demand arrests. An investigation would be a whitewash. Arrests and indictments would be justice.
No way it was a "mistake." Anymore than hitting the Chinese embassy in Belgrade was a mistake.
Both were deliberate.
I figure that the best choice America could possibly elect for our next President, would simply be someone with the balls to sit at the desk of the oval office, repeating the same thing, day after day, to every single person who walks through the door:
"No, don't do that, go do the exact opposite.... and get the fuck out of my office..."
Satan rules this bunch, explains every single thing they do.
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paybacks are a bitch barry.
how's your family doing these days barry?
Wash, rinse, and repeat
I love Hillarys White Cracker Tax bill. Is she planning to sheild her disolving assets to loop hole Clinton Foundation to pay into White Tax?
CNN can photoshop Hillary as a African American president nominee.
PUNISH YOUR ENEMIES REWARD YOUR FRIENDS.....That's what the serial lying, racist homosexual Muslim kneegrow said!
So what exactly does it take to get the "white chimp" lynched on the front lawn of the White House?!!!
Amazingly resilient the little CIA cocksucker that he is...
But then again he had plenty of help with that Teflon exterior.... All you really need to do in order to understand that when the NDAA, Libya, Yemen and Syria were just getting underway before his second term "I don't even have to get to the Constitutional Question" ... reared it's ugly big eared, big lipped, big nostriled head and that "teflon coating" to his white chocolate ass is courtesy of the dumbest fucking taxpayers on the planet!...
P.S.
Barry Soetoro is in fact the half brother of G.W. and the love child of Barbara's Bush...
It's actually a good thing that Obama has a foot in both the Christian and Muslim worlds - that way both God and Allah will send him to the Nether Regions!
http://whatreallyhappened.com/
Someone who was in that hospital had information that the government did not want out. Probably involved a drug company doing illegal testing, or military run drug and prostitution ring. Evidence, being photos/video/audio/blood-samples were in the hospital, and that is why they destroyed the entire building. Remember Building 7. Just my guess.
Burning the house with kids sleeping in it to kill a spider in the house eh?
One Nobel Peace Prize laureate bombing another. It's something from a Hunter Thompson freakout. You can't make this shit up.
Neo liberalism's finest hour.
Yes, indeed. It's truly bizarre.
It's also murder.
"In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way." Franklin D. Roosevelt.
This thread makes official. ZH has jumped the shark.
An SF operator in afghanistan beat the bahammad out of a pedophile police chief and gets booted from the service.
lets see what happens when you blow up a hospital
Politicians vengefully murdering innocent civilian targets to hit back at a political target? Sounds about right. Man, you gotta love this country!! No, you really gotta! 'Cuz they'll off you if you don't.
Murder is what they do.
Ham. Speak; I am bound to hear.
Ghost. So art thou to revenge, when thou shalt hear.
Ham. What?
Ghost. I am thy father’s spirit,
Doom’d for a certain term to walk the night,
And for the day confin’d to fast in fires,
Till the foul crimes done in my days of nature
Are burnt and purg’d away. But that I am forbid
To tell the secrets of my prison-house,
I could a tale unfold whose lightest word
Would harrow up thy soul, freeze thy young blood,
Make thy two eyes, like stars, start from their spheres,
Thy knotty and combined locks to part
And each particular hair to stand on end,
Like quills upon the fretful porpentine.
But this eternal blazon 2 must not be
To ears of flesh and blood. List, Hamlet, O, list!
If thou didst ever thy dear father love—
Ham. O God!
Ghost. Revenge his foul and most unnatural murder.
Ham. Murder!
Ghost. Murder most foul, as in the best it is,
But this most foul, strange, and unnatural.Whoever wrote that is one hell of a news reporter.
MSF also got bombed by Russians in Syria