This page has been archived and commenting is disabled.
Is Overmedication The Culprit Behind America's Mass-Killing Spree?
On Friday, we profiled Chris Harper-Mercer, the 26-year old posthumously accused of murdering nine people at an Oregon community college last week.
The episode was the latest in a string of mass shootings in the US, all of which raise serious questions about whether the social fabric in America is beginning to rip apart at the seams.
As was the case with every similar scenario that’s unfolded on American soil over the past decade, what happened at Umpqua Community College has intensified the debate regarding how these types of events can be avoided. As the Washington Post notes, the US has seen more "mass" shootings than it has days in 2015:
There have been only 274 days this year. The shootings are captured in this calendar, drawn from the the Mass Shooting Tracker. The tracker draws some criticism because its definition is broader than the FBI's definition, which requires three or more people to be killed by gunfire. But the broader definition is nonetheless a useful one, because it captures many high-profile instances of violence — like the Lafayette theater shootings — that don't meet the FBI's criteria.
Democrats are quick to pounce on the gun control narrative, which of course leads directly to what they don’t want to see. Case in point (via FT):
Business has been brisk for Larry Hyatt, owner of Hyatt Guns in North Carolina, since the Oregon community college shooting last week that left 10 people dead, including the 26-year-old suspect.
Mr Hyatt saw an even bigger surge in customers after the 2012 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that left 26 people dead, including 20 children, before the gunman killed himself.
After that incident, President Barack Obama made his first major push for stricter gun laws. In the wake of the Oregon shooting, Mr Obama on Friday again urged Americans to challenge the powerful gun lobby, saying he could not do it alone.
However, the calls for tighter gun laws lead to an increase in weapons sales. “Once the public hears the president on the news say we need more gun controls, it tends to drive sales,” said Mr Hyatt, who owns one of the largest gun retailers in the US. “People think, if I don’t get a gun now, it might be difficult to get one in the future. The store is crowded.”
Then there are those who frame the shootings as a mental health problem and frankly, they're probably right. At the risk of coming across as overly crass, all kinds of people have guns in the US and they aren't killing people in classrooms, which certainly seems to suggest that it is a combination of media-assissted suggestion (i.e. the copy cat effect) and mental illness of one kind or another that is the proximate cause here. The caveat is that there are obviously a variety of aggravating factors at play, including perceptions of social injustice, alienation, racial tensions, etc., but at the end of the day, it's probably safe to say that many of these shooters are suffering from something far more serious than poverty and racial intolerance.
It's with that in mind that we present the following excerpts from The New York Times, which has endeavored to take a closer look at Harper-Mercer's mother and the circumstances surrounding last week's tragedy:
When a downstairs neighbor of Laurel Harper learned there was a gunman on the loose at Umpqua Community College here, he ran up to tell her, knowing that her son, Christopher Harper-Mercer, was a student there. Like other parents, Ms. Harper started to set out in a desperate search, fearing her son could be hurt.
“She was very upset,” said the neighbor, who asked not to be named, citing his family’s privacy.
But as she was leaving, the sheriff and his deputies intercepted her and broke the news that her son was the gunman.
Ms. Harper, who divorced her husband a decade ago, appears to have been by far the most significant figure in her son’s troubled life; neighbors say he rarely left their apartment. Unlike his father, who said on television that he had no idea Mr. Harper-Mercer cared so deeply about guns, his mother was well aware of his fascination. In fact, she shared it: In a series of online postings over a decade, Ms. Harper, a nurse, said she kept numerous firearms in her home and expressed pride in her knowledge about them, as well as in her son’s expertise on the subject.
She also opened up about her difficulties raising a son who used to bang his head against the wall, and said that both she and her son struggled with Asperger’s syndrome, an autism spectrum disorder. She tried to counsel others whose children faced similar problems. All the while, she expressed hope that her son could lead a successful life in finance or as a filmmaker.
In an online forum, answering a question about state gun laws several years ago, Ms. Harper took a jab at “lame states” that impose limits on keeping loaded firearms in the home, and noted that she had AR-15 and AK-47 semiautomatic rifles, along with a Glock handgun. She also indicated that her son, who lived with her, was well versed in guns, citing him as her source of information on gun laws, saying he “has much knowledge in this field.”
“I keep two full mags in my Glock case. And the ARs & AKs all have loaded mags,” Ms. Harper wrote. “No one will be ‘dropping’ by my house uninvited without acknowledgement.”
In addition to talking about guns, Ms. Harper, 64, was a prolific commenter in online forums dealing with medical issues, frequently answering questions from strangers with a tone of empathy and concern. She expressed having expertise in autism, saying that both she and her son — whom she never identified by name — had Asperger’s syndrome.
Consoling another parent seeking help with disruptive behavior by an autistic child, Ms. Harper said that her own son “was, among other things, a head-banger” when he was younger and was initially given a misdiagnosis of attention deficit disorder. But over time, he had learned to cope and was doing better, she wrote: “I was in your shoes and now my son’s in college.”
She expressed frustration with people who questioned how successful a person with autism could be, noting: “I have Asperger’s and I didn’t do so bad. Wasn’t easy (understatement) but it can be done.” She also said she had “dealt with it on a daily basis for years and years” because of her son, who she said was progressing well.
“He’s no babbling idiot nor is his life worthless,” Ms. Harper wrote. “He’s very intelligent and is working on a career in filmmaking. My 18 years worth of experience with and knowledge about Asperger’s syndrome is paying off.”
Out of a respect for decency we won't comment on the last bolded passage there, but after reading all of the above one is left with serious questions about mental illness and cause and effect. That is, are these episodes simply the result of someone being "off their meds" (to use the crude cliche) or is it in fact the opposite? That is, is this a feedback loop wherein sick people get sicker as their brain chemistry is constantly altered by increasing the dosage of drugs that doctors don't fully understand?
Those questions aren't easily answered, and while we absolutely are not attempting to detract from the scope of the tragedy here, it's worth noting that people are dying every day all over the world in suicide attacks that, false flag or no false flag, appear even more senseless than what happened in Oregon last week. That, in turn, raises questions about society in general, as one is left to ask whether, despite the development of touch screen phones and futuristic SUVs, we might not have come very far as a people after all...
»
- 36192 reads
- Printer-friendly version
- Send to friend
- advertisements -
ya think???
http://ssristories.org/
"Over-Medication"?
Fuck, just plain old "Medication" is often a problem. I was once prescribed a pain killer and a muscle relaxer to be taken at the same time...that shit really fucked with my mind...happy/depressed...energized/lethargic...vomiting/diarrhea...that was the final straw...threw it away and toughed out the injury pain.
There's a drug on TV now where the "Most Common Side Effect" is "Activities While Sleeping"! WTF!
EATING and/or DRIVING while SLEEPING has been reported by those taking this fucked up drug.
I love that depression drug where a common side effect is thoughts of suicide, and if you feel like killing yourself, call your doctor...just hope it aint' 3AM...the Doc is out...or if the Doc is in, that after hours call will cost you so much you'll kill yourself just over that...
Beyond the Yellow Brick Road: Revised
Bob Meehan, $ 20.00
All teenagers are going to be exposed to drugs, most are going to try drugs, many will become addicted, some will want help for themselves or others. This book can help.
Always always blame the guns
Never blame Obama's sons
AMERICA DOES NOT HAVE A GUN PROBLEM
AMERICA HAS A VIOLENT Kneegrow PROBLEM....
Take away the kneegrows, and America has the lowest gun crime in the civilized world!
Possibly over-medication.
The BIG problem - every little twit is a special snowflake who NEVER has to work for or earn anything any more. They are emotional little wrecks.
Maybe not.
Me thinks it moar like somebody who's only sense of personal power was from having guns.
Wonder who he could have learned that from??
And which is prolly why such incidents don't happen where other people can and do have guns.
Because there's no clear advantage of power over other armed people.
That's why "An armed society is a polite society"
Ass Burgers...
...I knew it. Happens every time w/ "their kind". ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KayO8WqQODc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqisIZfUF8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jkBOU9etRA
These mass shootings are nothing but media hoaxes, only a total moron could not see that at this point.
Overmedicated is one thing, but it seems that the major reason for aggression is a clear lack of pussy.
Gun control? Fuck that. What we really need is for every man to receive a bi-weekly hooker allowance/hooker stamps which will no doubt reduce gun related deaths and mass shootings a minimum of 300%. It could be attached to a airmiles or points based system that can go towards free gifts and other incentives.
Now THAT's government assistance I could get behind. Keeping men sexually satisifed is the key to making America great again.
One of the prime elements of Huxley's Brave New World was unlimited sexual activity. It's hard to argue that it's not central to any discussion of any social issue.
Let's face it -- any guy that has access to copiuos amounts of pussy is going to preserve that lifestyle until they pry the pussy from his cold dead fingers.
Over medicated-------------surely there's a drug for that
Fembots are on the way. China first....good old one child policy.
WoW.......the bloody Headbanger is back!!!!
Look what the cat dragged in. People were starting to wonder what happened to you Headbanger.
Baby Boomers created this. “Every child gets a trophy”.
Why doesn't anyboby in the socialist jew media (et al) call black on white premeditated murders hate crimes?
It doesn't fit the false narrative that they want to push. Same shit with CNN making him a whiter in his photo.
Because they'd never be invited to the correct parties after that. Look at Juan Williams - a black man - FIRED from NPR for telling the truth.
Not having a father in the home I am sure didn't help. Have no idea what the circumstances were but the fact is that boys need Men in their lives to become Men, women can't do that job. You wind up with boys in Men's bodies that lack a sense of Honor and discipline that come only from other Men. Sorry Femma-Nazi's you cannot do that job, you are just different.
NOT ALL, but too often, "Single Moms" raise women trapped in mens bodies; these guys just don't "fit in"...and finding a girl friend interested in a "girly-man"...good luck with that...look at the Oregon guy...single mom, frustrated at no girlfriend...if he had a decent dad in his life, it wouldn't have gone down this way...
Gun or not, this guy, and many others, or are going to lose it eventually and lash out those they believe "responsible".
I up voted, but he was a mulatto. They are a special kind of crazy. I could fill this page with the encounters I've had w/ them around here. Called the cops on 3 separate ones. There's a good reason miscegenation used to be against the law.
I still suspect this nut was a Jihadi recruit. Check out Mahmoud Ali Ehsani.
I wish someone would ask OBoma this question:
"What law would have stopped this trajedy?".
Tougher guns laws...give me a fucken break...the only law that would stop this is the criminalization of the ownership of a firearm...absolutely no guns for anyone..and if you want to see how "effective" that law would be at stopping gun violence, take a look at the "War on Drugs".
It is a MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE FIRST and a "gun problem" maybe 10th or so on down the list; I'm sure there are steps we can take to make it a little tougher for the crazy to buy guns..but we'll never totally elimate it...
The mental illness angle has been touted by the Chosenites since the Arizona shooting (both the shooter and congresswoman are Chosenites). They, no doubt, got the idea from Columbine. Then they upped the ante with Sandy Hoax. It's backdoor gun grabbing, since they can't get it outright like Great Britain did after Dunblane(1996).
I'm with you.
Had surgery to remove skin and lymph nodes for melanoma in '03, and fortunately I was cancer-free in the nodes. At any rate, they gave me Percoset at the hospital to take home with me.
I took one of those horse pills before bed, and I shit you not I woke up halluscinating and part-manic.
Ended up not taking any more of those fucking things, and dealt with the pain for two weeks before the gauze and stitches were taken out.
I was more fortunate than you (and congrats on being cancer free). I had abdominal surgry in 2010 and they gave me a pain med that I don't want to remember. I took one when I got home and was puking what was left of my guts out which, when you have staples in you and have to wear an ostomy bag, is no fun at all. It was a part of the reason I ended up back in the hospital twice, once with dehydration and an intestinal blockage, and a week or so later with pneumonia. I've had surgery four times in my life and this was the only one where I was stupid enough to use the pain meds. On the other three, I refused them and the doctors actually accused me lying about the level of pain I was in and tried to insist that I use the pain meds. I told them that with my history of stomach issues, the pain was no worse than some of the attacks I had in the past, and I got through all of them without meds.
Nasty shit.
Note to readers: DO NOT READ ^^^^^^ DURING DINNER.
Looks like over scheduling of False flags. I wonder why they want the guns so bad. What could be on the horizon to provoke such an urgent need to disarn the population, hmmm.....
I'm willing to bet there will be another one by the New Hamshire primary (as early as Dec., Sandy Hoax style), probably in NH. I just hope they miss Donald.
That, and what seems to be an elevated frequency of testing the emergency broadcasting system. Way more frequent than it used to be. Skynet often needs to clear its throat before the big day.
Overmedication, the elevation of single-motherhood to god-like status when it should be regarded as a terrible idea, and the denigration of normal male behavior are all culprits.
Guns? They're just the tool.
@nuubee, well said
You hear that fathers! Yeah the femma-Nazi's have made our job more challenging but that is all it is a challenge that you can over come with discipline and not giving in to emotion. So you need to "man up" and deal with the shit for your children's well being. Be the Rock, the Femma-Nazi's will never understand that, they are ruled by impulse and emotion
Sad events, indeed. Pray for families who lost loved ones.
Then, ponder the following. The sameness of all of these " events ", and the sameness of the political and media gun control narrative afterwards.
Yes, nine lives gone at a school that discouraged concealed carry with immediate expulsion is a tragedy.
But, so is 55 lives ended in Chicago in a single weekend, if not more so.
Chicago, Illinois, is the home of some of the most restrictive gun control state laws in the entire country.
55 people die, an d nothing but fucking crickets from the politicos and the media, relatively speaking.
Why ? Maybe it proves gun controls don't work, and fucks up the gun control PR agenda.
Maybe, it is because it is Oblammie's home state.
Maybe it is because his old bum buddie Rahm Emmanuel runs Chicago.
Maybe it is because the narrative, and the push for gun control are part of total control, and have nothing to do with all of the hand wringing bullshit being pushed into teevee heads nationwide.
All I know is a gun free zone is a killing zone for some sick fuck to take advantage of, and destroy lives with impunity.
Fuck that noise - make open and concealed carry mandatory everywhere.
I guarantee you that criminals would have a bad day if all citizens were armed.
It wouldn't take too many dead criminals to make for a more polite and civilized society real fast.
If someone had been armed at Umpqua Community College, maybe there would be one or two victims tops, and a dead shit head instead of the outcome we are all looking at.
Where it is a crime to carry a gun, only criminals will carry guns. How fucking hard is that concept for a 'liberal' to understand?
Meantime, Moonbeam 2.0, in his infinite wizumb, wants to ban even CCLs at all schools.
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article3734...
No, it was 55 shot, 10 killed in Chicago, this past 4th of July weekend.
https://www.rt.com/usa/272014-chicago-holiday-weekend-shootings/
Arrrggg. Aspergers is not a "mental illness". It is a social interaction disorder. The illness comes later from repeated social abuse from pretty much the entire world. Torment any person long enough and you can drive them "insane".
Yea that's bullshit though, they don't give lithium for Aspergers, he had something more serious in addtion to Aspergers.
OR, his single-mother became convinced her child had something more serious, or convinced her doctor to drug up her son. Wouldn't be the first time.
Or he told some purified/processed dope that tipped over. Isn't dope now legal in OR?
At any rate, I am sure no Toxicology report will be made public. Just like Lanza, Dillian, and Holmes, no Toxicology reports were ever disclosed.
Not Trump. It just makes him squint and purse his lips even more.
Is it racist to suggest he was a serial loser and a coward ?
As long as its directed at his white half, at least as far as the mainstream media is concerned. White "men" can be called anything under the sun by all and men in general can be called anything under the sun by femma Nazi's with zero accountability.
In BHO's nation all whites, and only whites, are racist. The sooner the whites embrace it, the sooner they can deal with the problem.
Is it racist that the media does not refer to the shooter as black but always refer to Obama as such?
Brilliant piece yesterday on Lew Rockwell about violence in America. Pretty insightful - https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/10/jack-perry/killing-is-the-answer/
We've raised a couple of generations of children that think violence is the norm and then to exacerbate the problem we medicate them with psycho pharmaceuticals that are known to increase violent tendencies. It's little wonder events like Oregon have increased.
If anti-depressants can make you feel less depressed it would also seem to me that they might just make you feel disconnected from the bad things you might do, or at the very least not care about the consequences of a bad action.
Is water wet?
I dunno about this.. When I take valium for flying, the only person I am almost killing is myself.
Valium is one thing. Anti depressants are a big other
Valium is one thing. Anti depressants are a big other
First let's prove there were actually mass killings and not just theatrics.
it sure did change the news cycle.
"we're gonna need you to jerk off another kid, Michael. it would really help out" /Dave Chappelle
I concur, let's start with the FBI's own numbers.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the...
Remember the FBI's definition 3 or more killed by gunfire. Look at their numbers. That's just fucking weird isn't it.
Hey Grounds keeper Carl, I posted a link for you to help you with your reservations on the Sandy Hoax shooting.
I have shown that page to probably twenty people and not one has made a reply, not one.
I don't know what it will take to wake the herd.
It's amazing isn't it. The most amazing part for me is that one of the herd sent it to me. What really gets me is even the hardcore Zero Hedgers won't even look at it. The real truth pill is hard to swallow I guess.
As long as babbling idiots are armed...we should be too. I am including the government in the babbling idiot camp.
Does The Pope take little Blue Pills?
The Catholic Church on:
Pedophile Priests: Looks the other way and then "moves them around" when they get caught; all the way to the Vatican if necessary to protect them from suffering the legal consequences of their behavior.
Homosexual Priests: Abhorrent behavior, immediate expulsion from the church.
The message that sends to me is...Priests having sex with Children is "ok"...Priests having sex with adult men is "unacceptable".
The Pope is taking more than just Blue Pills...
Didn't you hear what the puppeteer aka Elmo said? It was 'consensual', so stop complaining about him abusing 'young men'!
Democrats on:
Murderers- Capital punishment is inhumane.
Fetuses- Slice 'em and dice 'em
It could as well be GMOs, fluoridated water, the dear leader, or spending too much time on Zero Hedge.
If all else fails, blame it on demented "mass-murderer" Putin.
I blame parents that refuse to believe their child has 'issues'. Why the fuck would parents let their kid own/have access to guns when you know the child has issues with controling their emotions. Case in point: http://gawker.com/11-year-old-accused-of-murdering-an-8-year-old-who-woul-1734909175?discussion_truncation=0&utm_expid=66866090-56.xSggy8zmSwG3vMsivr7rOg.1&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fgawker.com%2F%3Fdiscussion_truncation%3D0
"Why the fuck would parents let their kid own/have access to guns"
17 guns in Oregon..that's a lot of fucking money...did he even have a job? "Mommy" paid for everything freeing him to use his allowance on guns?
she was doing the best she could to be a mother and a father to a boy, its an impossible task.
. Gov is like a druged riddled mall shooter . For the same reason big pharma etc
I've got my own theory. Legalize and de-stigmatize prostitution. In fact, make it a celebrated facet of religious culture, just like the ancients did. Guys like this, guys whose sense of self-esteem is so leaky and broken that they identify themselves as beta males - well, they do what our culture teaches them to do when they've been emasculated by females, which is turn to violence. If this guy was able to pay a visit to the temple of Aphrodite once a week I'll bet this never would have happened. But that would take a radical re-think of our culture, religion, and legislative habits, and Americans would much rather have a mass murder than a hard think.
Americans would much rather have a mass murder than a hard dink.
Agreed. Nothing like a nice piece to take the edge off.
Just weed would do. Who could be arsed carrying out a mass murder stoned out of their eyeballs. I know people who can barely clothe themselves having smoked all day let alone run around with a gun.
Two words: Venereal disease. Diseases of the goddess Venus, the goddess of 'love'.
Syphilis was a hell of a problem back in the day.
We have better tools than ever for detecting and containing those diseases. In fact, if this was all done in the open and with a bare amount of common sense, it would probably vastly reduce outbreaks because people would have a safe place to go instead of fighting it and fighting it and then recklessly giving in on the spur of the moment.
Reportedly STD transmission in legal brothels in Nevada is close to nil. Frequent testing.
Three Words: Robot Sex Workers.
I was talking about getting laid in general. Could be the wife or girlfriend. Hey, if somebody wants or needs to use a pro let em.
Personally, I think they should let people have their 72 virgins *before* crossing over to the other side...and, they should be loose with the word, 'virgin.'
100% agree
The government can fix the SSRI & Gun problem overnight, literally. They don;t even need any legislation, as the FDA already have the authority I am sure simply stop perscribing SSRI's to the problem group, without further studies or some other good reason.
They just don't want to. These shootings benefit the goverment too much, get people calling for more regultions and control, get politicans on TV, make it look like they are concerned and "doing something" and all this is EXACTLY what the government wants.
Because the mass shooting align so well with the US government agenda to steal the right of people to protect themselves from the government, one might jump to the conclusion that the US government creates these situations for their own benefit.
Strange details typically emerge afterwards that do not fit the US government narrative and details tend to be changed over time to better fit the US government agenda.
In this particular case, it was odd that people did not hear the gunfire that was supposed to happen, that the ambulances did not show up right away, that no one saw any dead or injured people, including the supposed hero who took 7 bullets and 2 broken legs with no apparent sign of injury.
Just another Sandy Hook and Boston bombing fake, with actors and no killing? Maybe. They may have killed the patsy ... or maybe he never existed.
This story upsets me, I cannot respond until I take my medication, talk to my lawyer, pray with my mullah, clean my assault rifles, play some online shooter games, and post my dating relationships on social media.
Democrats are quick to pounce on the gun control narrative, which of course leads directly to what they don’t want to see. Case in point (via FT):
Actually, the media* first tried to make him white (altering skin,nose, and lips in a photo) and play the "evil white supremacist shooter" narrative yet again.
*propaganda mouthpiece of both parties/the government.
like the vaccine controversey web denizens have long suspected ssri drugs are not the safe effective drugs they claim to be. like the vaccine issue, big pharma has pulled out all their guns to make sure media does not connect ssri drugs with mass murder events(and countless other murdrrs and suicides). these companies need to be investigated as an accessory to murder knowing these drugs could cause a person to want to make violence against other people.
"His life as a filmmaker"
Hollywood can have "Heroes" shoot everyone in movies (Sublimal propaganda) or video games, but kids don't try that at home or the mall.
Or in some faked GWOT - like "Hero" Chris Kyle
I think the greatest cause of mass shootings is a gun collection agenda.
Obama resorted to guns. That's because his ObamaCare laws is a fucking mess. Not one MSM person talks about doctors creating medicated toxic potions to sell new drugs approved by the ObamaCare guidelines. FDA.
If you mix certain drugs, a adverse chemical reaction can occur. See thru the negro president lying.
Affordable Care Act (ACA 6004) - Food and DrugAdministration
Use this phrase, Pharmaceutical cocktail mix of drugs issued by the Doctors. It's going to be a I-beam falling on Obama's head.
Is overmedication (especially SSRIs) the culprit in these mass shootings, of course. But what I don't hear is the fact that gun free zones are equally to blame. A mentaly sick person knows that there will be no one to stop them. More gun laws will do nothing to stop this kind of violence. There needs to be an elimination of gun free zones at schools, movie theaters, etc. Why we should not allow a good person, who is charged with teaching our children, the ability to defend themselves and their students, is beyond me.
there was a nyt sunday magazine article about the introduction of antidepressants in japan. there is no japanese word for depression. historically, the japanese cure for western described depression was to meditate in an activity that helps cheer a person up whether it was a hobby, a trip to the temple or joining in some group activity. in other words, they dealt with it in some constructive way. after years of effort, big pharma was finally given permission to sell their depression drugs in japan. within several years, a nation with no depression had 5 mil people on depression drugs.
healthcare is about money first and healthcare if it happens to happen.
There is a lot of money in those mind control pills, excuse me pills to treat an illness.
Its about helping people whether they want help..or even think they need help or not. That is our new world run by the elites among us. The smart and well rounded who can pass judgement upon us poor proles....study our deficiencies and offer endless cures and treatments. Ever notice how high in the ranks witch doctors always were in ancient societies. Not that much different now.
"No one will be 'dropping by' my house uninvited without acknowledgement"
If by "case" she means Gun-Case, then they would have a difficult time "acknowledging" their univited guests. Rush to the gun case and thry to find the keys or remember the combo. Would be helpful if the thieves called up ahead of time and scheduled the break-in but that rarely happens.
So might not be enough time unless there is somebody in the house 24/7 with a weapon close at hand. Like her son maybe?
Guns at the entry, guns at the retreat, guns in my kitchen, guns under my seat. And I live on acreage and own an excavator, so the hole will be deep deep deep.
Mass murder can be committed with many different deadly weapons, including cars and trucks.
Yes, that is true. But recently(2-3 years), it only seems to be lone, deranged gunmen shooting innocent, unarmed civilians in very public places. Very carefully managed spycraft and stagecraft. All put on for the benefit of concerned citizens, rising up and demanding that our guns be taken away.
Ironic that all it has done, is drive gun & ammo sales through the roof. ;)
Yes. Americans are smarter than the Brits, who outlawed their guns after Dunblane(1996). The MSM has been beating the gun grabbing drum since the 70's. Here's one from over 40 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzFWRPiNXOI
People need to quit trying to act like the human species is different than it is. It's been violent ever since its existence and is just another form of animal which are mostly aggressive. Just because one may not be like that doesn't mean everyone is going to be like that and people need to grasp this simple fact and quit trying to wonder why some will go and kill others. Some people are just wired differently.
Also, there are what, 7.3 billion people in the world so it is pretty lame to try and take incidents where a few people get shot as being the end of the world. Amazing how every single day people are dying all oevr the world because of human bullshit (starvation, abuse, etc) and nobody really cares but someone gets pissed off with society to the point of snapping and goes and shoots up a place and it's the biggest and most tragic thing ever.
I envy other species that aren't really self aware and don't think they are special and unique snowflakes like humans do.
It's the vaccines, turning an entire generation in the US and UK(and coming soon to rest of the world) into low iq spaz's in need of subduing.
Vaccines are the cause of the encephalopathy(head-banging is a common soothing behavior babies/toddlers on the spectrum!) and other immune overreactions that display as "autism".
"Autism" may be history's most egregious euphemism. It's iatrogenic brain damage.
The common thread in the shootings is ADHD/Autism. Brain damage.
Allergy meds are worse than allergies in my case and I do suffer from allergies.
Vet on the campus was armed, and no, it was not a "gun free zone":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mOJf9HW2Zo
The UCC student code specifically forbids the possession of firearms unless there is written authorization.
https://www.umpqua.edu/resources-and-services/academic/student-code-of-c...
No - not a gun free zone - just immediate expulsion from the school if you were caught carrying.
Same thing only different. So - what's your point ?
Here's mine - if even 10 percent of the school population had been able to carry arms without consequence, dirtbag would have been dead, and there might have been one or two shooting victims - not 9 dead and 20 or so injured.
55,000 or so die in car accidents every year - who is advocating car control ?
At least 150,000 - 200,000 die from " medical complications " every year - where are the people advocating doctor control ?
What about alcohol based disease, illness, and fatalities /
Cigarettes ?
McDonalds food ?
All that shit kills you just as dead - no fucking hand wringing in the news cycle about that now, is there ?
Don't ask. Don't tell
America: Land of the drugged, home of the guns.
troll
is the above a rhetorical question?, and keep me out of this- meds can have side effects that are unexpected-who coulda known they would breed mass murderers?? - history of drugged up killing is a long one going back to berserkers and in WWII amphetamines were widely used on both sides..mix in stress and paranoia - add a bit of sociopathy add mind altering drugs , and ,mix well - see what you get.
ya fucking think?
http://www.ssristories.net/
http://www.cchrint.org/2012/07/20/the-aurora-colorado-tragedy-another-se...
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/obsessively-yours/201212/newtown-sh...
Great Links...
Everyone should take a quick look at this sublink.
http://ssristories.net/archive/indexb6a1.html?sort=date&p=
So you are saying the near 100% correlation between these kids who shoot-up schools and the fact they are on Government sanctioned and doctor mandated hardcore behavior modifying narcotics may in fact be causation?
It comes full circle if you really think about it.
Government had their hands all over the regulation and certification of doctors, on all the drug approvals uses and prescription requirements, FDA/gov collusion has lead to incredibly dangerous substances being routinely prescribed to very young children; its all legit,. While simultaneously they restrict schools ability to arm staff or that of students to arm themselves if they so choose and you only come to really one logical conclusion in my mind. This is entirely the fault of US government meddling in the private affairs and public lives of individuals. Either they are aware of all this and simply don't give a fuck or are intentionally going for this outcome for profit I don't know. Its possible they are all completely incompetent but I give them more credit than that. I think its greed and self preservation of TPTB.
You sow what you reap motherfuckers.
The only solutions they will propose are more government obviously.
"This is entirely the fault of US government meddling in the private affairs and public lives of individuals."
This is entirely the fault of bankster-backed BIG PHARMA and HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY preds who have lied, cheated and bribed their way into totally controlling medical care in USA. Corrupted gov functionaires are their tool-- but make no mistake, the big money is the controlling evil here.
It's not overmedication, it's any "medication". That shit is brain poison, it was never intended to help anyone.
SSRI's are a great experiment in behavioral control. They are entirely destructive. Psychiatry should be banned.
Believe me, I used to be on SSRIs and they made me feel worse, I've gotten off them along with most of the cornucopia of so called periphery supportive drugs and returned to a more saner self full of Optimisim. I wonder what the commondity price is on animal entrails are now?
Umpqua Shooting: Same Ol' in Your Face Script:
http://winteractionables.com/?p=25801
I accepted a long time ago that there is no hope, no more than hope of deflecting the top of a mountain when the time comes for it to crash down. Calculate, duck and cover, strive to protect your own, learn the ropes and learn them fast. I used to expend so much energy looking for hope and solutions. There is none of either. This is the descent.
The descent of the slaveowners to oblivion IS the hope. You have nothing to lose but your chains.
No, it's the American culture, making people sick.
So is it possible this guy didn't have a non-medicated moment in his life for the better part of 20 years?
Maybe the drug prescriber should hold some liability. Just saying.
Well, here you go. AS USUAL, The Onion is on top of shit.
"As part of an effort to provide young people with the tools necessary to make responsible decisions, a coalition of the nation’s leading anti-drug activists launched a new initiative Tuesday with the goal of teaching teenagers to resist pressure from psychiatrists to use drugs. "
http://www.theonion.com/article/new-anti-drug-program-teaches-teens-resi...
Oh, and BTW, he was probably fucking his mother.
I think it's access to guns.
11-Year-Old Boy Shoots 8-Year-Old Girl Dead Over PuppyOn Saturday, an 11-year-old boy in White Pine, Tennessee, asked an 8-year-old girl if he could see her new puppy. When she said he could not, the boy grabbed his father's gun and shot the girl dead, according to authorities in Jefferson County, Tennessee.
I can't wait until the kid starts dating.
No. It is fools like you with room temperature IQs that think that anecdotes prove something.
In a country of 330 million these tragic events are statistical anomalies. They didn't happen.
Go turn off your tv and enjoy your life.
Well what you could logically do is
1) Chart a map showing the medication rate per individual as a percentage of population per city or state over a given period
2) Chart the crime rate including murders, mass shootings, etc on the same time line.
If medication rate increasing correlates with mass shootings well.. you know that mass shootings somehow correlate with over-medication of a given population.
In general one would expect* that as a population becomes more medicated and introduced to more mind altering drugs used to treat things like depression, anxiety, etc.... that you should naturally have a higher tendency for bad reactions (people go bat shit crazy ape shit and shoot everyone in a three block radius) because of lowered inhibitions and chemical imbalances in the brain.
Naturally the seed in the individual was always there, you cant cure a mental case with a magic pill, but you can most certainly set one off.... for most of these mass shooters and murderes I would generally assume that the pills / medications they were prescribed pushed them over the edge by lowering their inhibitions.
IE: Give the president enough prozac and he will press the red button without even giving it a 2nd thought.
What really causes these mass shootings is the culture and the inability of certain individuals to adapt or cope to such a .... domesticated life-style.
----------------
On that note im going to get a little philosophical so skip the rest if you dont like philosophy.
The real problem is not the prevalence of medication, but the cause of everyones pain.
There is no real pain (as in physical pain being endured) it is all a mental pain or conflict, humans struggle to embrace their own existence, humanity over years has attempted to cope by creating various "solutions"
-Religion
-Drugs
-Entertainment
-Leisure activities
-Hobbies
-Exploration
-Wild uncontrollable sex
Most of these activities cater to our animal impulses (because when the body feels good, the mind is distracted), think for a moment if you were sperated from your body, what would you be? you would no longer be the sum of the experiences your body has, you would no longer be happy or sad or angry , you would simply be "information" a floating ball of facts zeros or ones, but you having lived a human life would know the "experience" of love, laughter, joy anger, the state of being only soul is empty without the experiences of our lives you would have a sense of emptiness without those experiences.
The same thing that drives us mad (a sense of overwhelming emptiness and lack of meaning in our own existence) is the same thing that drives us to achieve and live (through our suffering we derive activities to alleviate our suffering or provide ourselves with fleeting moments that distract us from the simple fact that we do not know what we are , why we exist, who created us, and what purpose we have in life!
The real reason people go mad is Existential Depression, they can not come to terms with their own existence, so they in turn have to destroy whatever or whomever seems to exist.
(they need reality to reflect what they feel inside, a lack of existence)
Some people are strong and live a normal life (or what the consensus deems normal) they go to school, develop a career or find a job, seek a mate , produce a family and find enough meaning in those activities to keep themselves from going insane (again sanity is a consensus but that's beyond the point).
Let us look for a moment at this recent shooters targeting of Christians.
Why did he target Christians? I would postulate that he resented the meaning these individuals found in god, he hated the fact that they could find comfort and support in what he probably thought of as some imaginary entity (God wasn't enough for him, it wasn't a good enough excuse to live and enjoy life) so he felt the need to "correct" or outwardly manifest his reality by ridiculing the Christians "Do you believe in Jesus? Yes? GOOD YOU WILL SEE HIM IN A FEW SEC" this clearly shows that he was mocking them, he felt or believed that the notion that these people would die and go see god was idiotic so he felt the need to prove it to them by killing them (again destroying or ripping apart others existence because he wants everyone to reflect what he feels).
Our biggest monsters are always our own reflections.
If you take what makes you feel bad, what you hate about your life or yourself and you outwardly manifest that, you are directly creating a monster.
The worst thing you can do for your mental health is probably question your own existence and reinforce your disbelief in your existence with a negative attitude or a negative self-worth.
That is what these crazy shooters are doing, and they are doing it probably while heavily medicated.... which can not possibly end well for anyone.
You could analyze this in a societal level because really if you break it down the entire society/civilization , collective consciousness of humanity realizes these flaws in our own existence consciously or subconsciously, but we all agree to keep up the illusions of our day to day lives because we have the collective intelligence to realize that ignorance is bliss and its a lot healthier for us.
I really appreciated this, thank you.
It's the guns. It never happens in non-gun owning countries, which should settle the case.
It's also the insane medicating, like amphetamins prescribed to children purposefully diagnosed with "ADHD" when they only have an absent or narcissistic parents, video game and TV problem.
The USA is world-champion of highly suspicious meds-gobbling. And of divorce, and of loneliness, and of depression and of eating disorders. Not to forget the dope: the USA also leads the world in terms of heroin consumption.
As long as you 'Murikan people will be squabbling over trifles instead of joining forces to change your society and reject the law of profits at all costs, you'll be fucked.
This isn't a country, this is a mass destruction endeavor.
So if an intruder breaks into your house, beats your ass, and takes your stuff, who ya gonna call? I can just hear your anti-gun nut call now.
You: Hello is this 911?
Dispatch: Yeah, you called it moron.
You: Hey I was just robbed and beaten up..
Dispatch: So?
You: Well can you please send out a police officer to take a report so I can turn into insurance? Also tell that officer not to bring his gun as guns are the problem in the world today.
Dispatch: Lol, are you nuts? Our officers always carry a gun for protection.
You: Well that doesn't make any sense. They represent the law, who would argue with that? I respect the law. And everyone else would to if there were no guns.
Dispatch: How about I send out a medical team to observe you?
You: Well that's not going to help me with my insurance claim. Just send an officer, no guns, no guns.
Ritalin dependent country...
Ritalin dependent country...
One level above the drugs is mental illnesses.
In my state, Michigan, Republicans cut out funding for mental wellness decades ago. So now the freaks run loose or get stacked in for profit prisons.
But hey, the Pink Slime investments have done well for us. So it’s all g00d.
Did I miss the part here about the medications he was taking?
I know. It seemed kike a few paragraphs were missing or something.
"That is, is this a feedback loop wherein sick people get sicker as their brain chemistry is constantly altered by increasing the dosage of drugs that doctors don't fully understand?"
^THIS^
Most 'doctors' are just glorified drug dealers.
The word doctor is from the latin 'docere' which means 'to teach'.
The only things western docs teach is how to fill a prescription.
No, he just couldn't get laid. They don't make a medication for that kind of angst (or if they do, who owns it and what is their ticker?).
Getting laid should be a right! Call them the ObamaGirls, part of the FSA (Free Sex Army).
been saying this all along...
Worth pointing out that societal values and how it affects social connection plays a role:
I just read this recently, but could only thing I could find in a quick search was the hufpo printing (my sincerest apologies.)
"So the opposite of addiction is not sobriety. It is human connection."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/johann-hari/the-real-cause-of-addicti_b_65...
To answer the question, ummm no, the 'media' is behind the mass killing spree hoaxes.
These are not real shootings. All are hoaxes with very bad crisis actors playing friends, family and witnesses. Even discussing the mental health aspect of this means we are caught in their web of lies. CNN, FOX, et all cannot be trusted to deliver the truth. Take Vicki for example...do you really believe her, that she was shot point blank in the back just two weeks prior to this interview? Does she sound convincing, or is Greta feeding her the script?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEHrWbCmQBo&feature=youtu.be
If you look at these guys, the first thing you see is that these are creepy little cowards; the sorts of guys who used to live with their moms their whole lives and be fed and protected by mom until mom died. My dad explained to me that in the old days (the 1950s), if such guys emerged from their homes and started acting weird, other males would beat them up (and they'd rush back to their mothers). How is it that these sorts of guys are now gunning people down? They could always have gotten guns, and they were always cowardly freaks with murderous fantasies.
Well, prozac has been called "the housewive's drug." It allowed women to get over their inhibitions and leave their homes and go out and function in the world. That's what's happening with these guys. Other males are no longer allowed to beat them up, and now they are medicated so that they have the "ummph" to go out and act.
Yet another psych drug shooter: Oregon gunman Christopher Mercer was taking five types of medication, likely vaccine-damaged with autism spectrum disorder
Finally, GOP Assemblywoman Michele Fiore is getting it right:
Asperger's syndrome or Ass-bugger's syndrome?
So now the definition of "mass" is three or more?!? Give me a fucking break! Sorry and in do disrespect to the dearly departed but considering the 3-4 as a mass is bullshit! Tyler you're not doing us any favors with continuing the propoganda in the headline. You're a smart guy, change it next time.
The media is not going to tell us all about these school shooters being doped up on prescription drugs just like they tried to hide the religious nature of the killings To show how the mainstream media lies look for ORIGINAL pictures of this current shooter--he is half black and half white and in real life appeared darker that the touched up photos which bleached him out and described a so called facination with the Irish Army. For those old enough to remember Columbine, those kids were doped too.
Here's a clip from FOX O'Reilly Show about POTUS showing up on Friday -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-fS9SBLTGk
Media is still driving around town harassing the citizens trying to keep the circus going. At Fred Meyer this AM, the management kicked some Cali channel 6 out of the parking lot.
There is no way Roseburg wants to be OB's Poster City for his gun agenda! This was a deranged medicated spoiled child via his mother enabling his fantasies...if there were no guns, it would have been a bomb, machete, acid, car bomb anything for this sicko to get his fame.
A good time to look into the Pharmaceutical industry - see the most recent with Amicus Theraputics class action lawsuit
hey is this related to promoting gunshootings on tv?
whats about games like gta? whats about cinema? whats about the image of nigger-thugs taking and selling drugs on mtv and in cinema?
whats about selling the "thug nigger image" to children as young as 14 years? whats about the aggression the cia is promoting on media?
whats about trying to fix problems with medicaton? medication cant fill he hole for something that was taken from you by your government
what about the idea of your future of becoming a waitress or burger flipper with college degree?
can anyone remember the hiphop trend? when i was younger they tried to implement the idea of becoming a white thug. many in my school were listening to eminem and later 50cent girls and boys later on they came up with regional thug stars
this music promoted:
-beating a woman = good
-selling drugs = good
-taking drugs = cool
-being a person without money and job = cool
-having sex with sluts = cool
-robbing and stealing from others = good
-beat other people = good
-drive by shooting = cool
-stabbing someone from behind = good
-jail = cool
etc
this music in first place was targeting middle class white boys
no one of 12-14 years old cared nor understood eminems producer was a jew called paul rosenberg
non of the teenage population actually understands that universal music and mtv is owned by american-jew and is directed by cia
whats about games like gta - highly promoted by cia
(gta4 was about a serbian being betrayed by a russian - brainwash)
stupid jews abusing the cluelessness of young children to brainwash them and let them fail in future
the shooting occurring now are the indirect resul of jews
its not the problem of mental illness -mental illness existed before
its not the fault of guns -guns existed before
ITS YOUR FAULT YOU STUPID JEWS -your new brainwash program did not existed before
also is there any relation between growing 3rd world immigrant population and native population?
whos is promoting immigrants the most = JEW
lets implemet jew-control instead of gun-control
-restrict jews of having more money than 100.000$
-restrict jews of owning cooperations
-restrict jews of becoming chairman and take key positions
-restrict jews of appearing in media or participatingin any kind of media
-restrict jews of politics
-restrict jews of joining cia and nsa
-forbid any kind of jew-organizations like apac, etc
i guarantee you - after 10 years there will be no more than 2 mass-shootings a year
Khazar Mintz a "hero" shot "seven times?"
Note the lack of pallor, in fact good color of his skin, and no visible blood on his clothes or skin. Seven rounds?
Umpqua, like Roanoke, Sandy Hook, Boston, and Charleston, is but another, patently obvious, hoax, performed by the same satanic faction found guilty of President Kennedy's assassination (viz. 'Hunt v. Marchetti') which runs the unconstitutional, imminently collapsing FedScam JFK ended, known to have committed the Holodomor and staged the Holohoax to cover it up; and did Waco, OKC, and 9/11.
America's named Sovereign is God Almighty, the Author of Truth and Justice. Closet-queens like Obama and Rove have no truth in them. They are satanic and seek to disarm and enslave the People just as their identical Christ-killer/papist king/pope/banker/assassin faction ran "the Wall Street of slavery" for over 2,000 years before those inspired of God escaped to receive True Israel, America, in covenant.
Check out the shared satanic hand signs.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/-DA0s8_EPGA/hqdefault.jpg
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/9797fa71cf.jpg
Our world has become so large that young people with emotional deficits can't cope. News travels at the speed of light and fame comes with it. How can we expect our kids to have societal maturity when they are conversing with peers 24 hours a day. In past generations, we learned from our elders because they stayed there and did their jobs to raise us even if they didn't want to be there. Our kids are learning that if they don't have Oprah money, Kanye and Kardashian lifestyles and some special cause, that they are not worthy of any attention.
The real truth is that any attempt to change gun laws will have no effect. Gun confiscation efforts will result in the scariest and bloodiest war this country has ever seen. Drugs to fill in holes created by family gaps will just fan the flame.