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Putin Has Just Put An End to the Wolfowitz Doctrine
4-Star General Wesley Clark noted:
In 1991, [powerful neocon and Iraq war architect Paul Wolfowitz] was the Undersecretary of Defense for Policy – the number 3 position at the Pentagon. And I had gone to see him when I was a 1-Star General commanding the National Training Center.
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And I said, “Mr. Secretary, you must be pretty happy with the performance of the troops in Desert Storm.”
And he said: “Yeah, but not really, because the truth is we should have gotten rid of Saddam Hussein, and we didn’t … But one thing we did learn [from the Persian Gulf War] is that we can use our military in the region – in the Middle East – and the Soviets won’t stop us. And we’ve got about 5 or 10 years to clean up those old Soviet client regimes – Syria, Iran, Iraq – before the next great superpower comes on to challenge us.”
(Skip to 3:07 in the following video)
The hawks overthrew Soviet allies Iraq and Libya.
And they’ve been pushing for regime change in Syria for years.
By bombing Isis, Al Nusra and other jihadis in Syria who are focused on overthrowing Russian ally Assad, Putin has put an end to the Wolfowitz doctrine.
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When i read the PNAC strategy i missed this part where it all blows up in their faces
Ever been to Syria, or the Kusk ? Very different terrain and people.
Basically nobody wins in the Kush, including the US, been that way for millenia and
short of nuking it, thats how it will remain.
i'd give even odds in a fight between a 14 year old Afghani boy and a platoon of US
special(short bus) forces.The home team advantage is unbeatable over time.
The US may have the watches, the Afghanis have the time.
as Yogi said, it aint over til it's over.
expect false flag or 9/11 event very soon
In war one can never be sure where exactly the bombs will explode. Nothing ever goes according to plan.
That must be why US bombs are destroying hospitals in Afghanistan and wedding parties in Pakistan.
When he fortold the future as a force China did not really enter his mind.
Well suckers, they are there, China and Russia brokered a deal to avoid trading in dollars and now the USA has Russia to the east and China to the west. So what people are calling a powerplay I see it more as China with the aid of Russia or vice-versa asserting themselves.
You over there are done !!
A well, being an European i am also.
Perhaps some comfort.
Well said.
Putin is trying to put an end to a doctrine that has caused 25 years of Bushist Crusader mayhem.
Will he succeed is another question.
But having got the ball rolling is a tipping moment and Humpty Dumpty of NWO is now a broken toy of a bygone age, especially as its created the destruction of Pax Americana's main hold on the world : Oil duopoly and monetary hegemony all gone down the shute in debt debasement folly.
Dear Henry's legacy to the Trilateral world now looking like Petrodollar's metamorphosis into Humpty Dumpty.
But where it leads to is a debatable question.
Quo Vadis.
The *really* big problem with the US Deep State is the following:
1) The US Dollar as World Reserve Currency is based on, well, the fact that it is the WRC. The "faith" the rest of the world invests in the Dollar is only backed by momentum - and the perceived preeminence of the US armed forces.
2) Just as the first Iraqi war was seminal in the fall of the Soviet Union IMHO when the world (and particularly the Soviet military analysts) were able to see the overwhelming technical superiority of the US smart weapons and the ease with with the US disposed of Saddam's huge standing army (breaking the illusion that the Soviet Union was a superpower on the par with the US), the move into Syria by Russia by the invitation of the legal government of Syria is in my opinion just as historic and seminal, the bell weather for a major sea-change in the the power structure of the world.
3) Russia in Syria has, at least in its first appearances, greatly neutralized ISIS, which was touted as a huge almost invincible juggernaut, putting on a clinic of technical prowess and coordination almost comparable to the US effort in Iraq 1.
4) The paradigm of the all powerful US military has taken a big hit, if not by its lack of technical superiority (the F35 fiasco does not inspire confidence in US technical capability), but by its intentions, will, and compentence. the MSF hospital in Kunduz fiasco in juxaposition with the well planned Russian strikes against ISIS (which the US supposedly has been attacking for 13 months), raises the question: if you needed someone to protect you, do you trust the Russian military or the US military?
5) The above question is a fatal doubt intruding into the all powerful US paradigm - if the Saudis and other important players (Germany!) start to question US power and cozy up to the Russians, the US petrodollar is done for, and with it US dollar as WRC - the US as a nation will start an inevitable slide into third world status if that occurs. Imagine what happens for example if the US has to pay its military budget from actual assets or savings rather than just print dollars it needs to buy the hugely expensive F35 or send billions to Israel...
6) What gives pause are what the US might do about what has just happened in Syria. The most rabid neocons may push the US into a poorly thought out confrontation, and get us all killed in the worst case.
7) Whatever response the US tries will not change the death of the US Dollar as WRC. The only question is how soon it will be cast aside (and my gut tells me it will be relatively soon, regardless of how "oversubscribed" dollar denominated debt is to the actual number of dollars in circulation)
Stop with the Bush did it meme, Already!. After 8 years of rule by the Boy King it is his mess now .... Either that or blame it on their handlers: the CFR and NWO proponents.
The Boy King's administration is/was a caretaker government, carrying forth the doctrines of the Neocon's and Pax Americana. He did nothing to halt it nor to advance it.
Fuck off. Neocons can own their fucking mistake until the end of time. It was stupid. You did it (and elected the fucker TWICE!). So get the fuck over it.
You are missing the point : Its PAX AMERICANA's mess; but it was the Wolfowitz doctrine of the BUSHES (father and son Incorporated along with Cheney) that started it.
Boy King is just a mouthpiece (reluctant now but gung-ho in Libya) of that same imperial game.
History is a bitch and you can't play King Canute with it !
Putin is trying to put an end to a doctrine that has caused 25 years of Bushist Crusader mayhem.
Will he succeed is another question.
And then for practical purposes you assume success. Of course the beginning looks good. But 4 months is not enough time. All Putin can do in 4 months is prepare for a pull out. Unless Iran provides ground troops.
He is between a rock and a hard place. He has to prevent at all costs a Sunni pipeline. On the cheap the best he can hope for is continued instability in Syria. A long war will be expensive. And the worst for Putin's political future is not the economic cost. It is the body bags.
...And then for practical purposes you assume success...
Do we read the same posts in the same language?
I did say : Quo Vadis. Ya know that Hollywood movie by the same name?
Putin is not the issue here : its the petrodollar hegemony and GW is pointing to its potential demise in the current spiral.
Putin could go either way; win big or lose big. But the damage to petrodollar hegemony is already done.
MSimon is an obtuse gasbag, Falak. A willful dissembler. He follows this closely and knows that Russia has no intentions of putting large numbers of boots on the ground, and there won't be a lot of body bags. I'm sure you know his true colors.
to wit. Anyone misinterpretting what Putin said in his UN speech last week as MSimon attempts to do in the above comment. The Paris Conference Of Parties has everything to do with global warming and nothing to do with global cooling.
"obtuse gasbag / willfull dissembler " Thanks, 11b40, I've been looking for the words to describe commenters like this.
IMO the value of the petrodollar is over rated. If the world enters a cooling period as Russian scientists predict the food dollar may be more important.
Please tell that to Janet Yellen, Draghi and Lady Lagarde and then watch the fun on the WS markets!
Lets not jump a decade before this one plays itself out!
The body bags ? Hey this is Russia, not pussified America. Russians are used to lost lives. It's even somehow frightening how they can easily accept it.
Body bags are part of what brought down the Soviets. It is not clear what the Russian tolerance for body bags is these days. It only took 13,000 or so to help bring down the Soviets.
An 80 year battle against the forces of economics is what brought down the Soviets.
And the Russians are still fighting that battle.
Same result too.
re Putin Ends Wolfowitz Doctrine
Now we should do our part, and put an end - a permanent end -to Mastermind War-Criminal "Rat Face" Wolfowitz; then the demonic KAGAN KLAN.
The other NeoCON warmongers can be rounded-up shortly thereafter trying to board flights to Tel Aviv, Isisrael
Buy fizz GAS (au+ag).
Seen on a wall in a bus station: "Kill a NeoCON for Christ"
Long time GW! Nice watching all dem US made Saudi bought weapons go up in smoke. Now that's what i call Change you can believe in. Go Vlad, some US base collateral damage in Baghdad would be equally welcome.
The Plan to keep Russia busy with Ukraine mischief is another multi-billion farce gone up in smoke.
Really nice watching the EU erupt in a burden of refugees, none of which was ear-marked in the austerity budgets of the poodle-piss vassal states.
Cat-Al-Loan-iA here i come, right back where we started from . . .
Are Wolfie and Soros related? They'd look nice side by side on a spit-roast. General Weaselly Asswipe who?
Darn!
Fuck Wolfowitz and the Neocon Frankenstein Stooge he rode in on...
Evil is power. What has Putin proved? That the US desires not to destroy ISIL, but to empower ISIL. When has Assad ever attacked the US? Never.
Everything the US government says is a lie. Everything the government's Ministry of Truth's media reports is a lie. With every lie the sheeple to emote for government.
Barack is evil incarnate. The US is a tool of neo-cons and the exceptional American fools. Evil succeeds, when the American sheeple follow.
You leave out the most important detail. STATE CAPTURE
Share the insults with the nation who has trained our cops in methods used against Palestinians, beating the crap out of everyone who shows the least bit of hesitation to obey their orders.
Okeefe = Full page of videos explaining ISRAEL EXPANSION PROJECT Greater Israel.
Dead politicians, dead journalists and many dead business people, all strangely similar yet some nobody from nowhere is sent to prison, with wide eyed drugged look.
ISRAEL is the source of the evil so fucking remember that prickface.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=israel+expansion+project+o%...
The source of the evil is not Israel, at least not the political entity known as Israel in the Middle East. The source of the evil is something far deeper, a Power of Darkness that exists somewhere else, a Power that created this modern state of Israel in the first place. In my opinion, that power of darkness, the truly evil "Israel", occupies the City of London, otherwise known as the Jewish Vatican, the counterpoint in this world to the other square mile that matters, the Holy See.
That's where the problems for the US and the Middle East have their beginning, middle and end. Solve that problem and America and the Middle East will both wake up to a bright new future.
"Soviet client regimes?" Didn't it ever occur to this dummy they are countries in their own right, people live there, you can't just take their countries away from them?
Bismarck said 'God has a special providence for fools, drunks, and the United States of America.' We must be in good shape considering we've had fools like Wolfowitz and drunks like G.W Bush running the country.
Let's not give too much credit to Paul Wolfowitz, and his "doctrine". It was just a restatement of Halford MacKinder's "Heatland Theory" and Zbigniew Brzezinski's "The Grand Chessboard"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halford_Mackinder
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Brzezinski
Speaking of Ziggy, the guy just snapped ..
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/06/is-terrorists-may-blast-mosques-...
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/06/zbig2putin/
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/06/zbig2putin/
Decent article....i.e. better than aveage for veteranstoday. IMHO.
Ol' Zbigniew sez that he USA should "disarm" Russian forces in Syria.
Guess the US Police will have to use some flash-bangs on the Russkies, and shoot their dogs, too.
Don't you just love the way these demented old coots like Zbiggy & McNasty keep giving it one last try to blow-up he world before they croak???
There'll be a rubber-room - with spiked walls - in hell waiting for these two mo-fo's
Brzezh has been a psycho for a long time, and has harbored a seething hatred for the Russians that still spews poison to this day. He pushed the idiots in DC to support the serial killer Pol Pot who murdered more than a million Cambodians, and that was a long time ago. He was sly enough to get the Chinese to do the direct support. Still crazy after all these years.
The Cambodians were fightng with the Vietnamese who were allied with the Russians, so that was reason enough for him regardless of all the Cambodian deaths.. The Western powers had no good reason to be mixed up in Asia except as blood sport.
Good old Ziggy. I would dredge some of my silver out of that lake to buy a ticket to that hanging. Throw in Kissinger and I'll dredge up some gold, too.
pops...I'd pay big time to be able to do the rope work for those ones...the public could call me "the smilin' hangman" ...(with the blazing eyes).
Wesley Clark is a prime example of US military incompatence. He was dubbed the "Man who almost started WW-3" in Yugoslavia. He fits right in with Obamma's don't ask don't tell army.
Undeniably true that he's a no talent ass clown who almost killed us all. But that's not inconsistent with him being able to relay a truthful anecdote about another no-talent ass clown, that shitbird Wolfowitz.
One of our greatest war criminals.
Hope he get arrested for crimes like Pinochet
Which war criminal? Please be more specific. DC and their European helpers are in the myriads.
"Putin has put an end to the Wolfowitz doctrine."
Imho, the more accurate statement would be: Putin has challenged the Wolfowitz doctrine.
The world has had enough of doctrines. It's time for something new instead. The Russians didn't defeat the neocons, the neocons defeated the neocons.
the neocons are not defeated until the truth about 9-11 if widely accepted, or, more properly, that which is untrue is widely rejected. it is their achilles' heel.
the crime is too great, too evil and too poorly done to be explained away or ignored. once a growing majority of the nation sees through this lie (and the fraction is already larger than many imagine), new things become possible. this is not yesterday's news. there is no statute of limitations on treason or murder. the day will be won mind by mind. do your part.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsoY3AIRUGA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GNww9cmZPo
http://www.luogocomune.net/site/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticl...
I pray so. They have succeeded in dumbing down the newer generations and the awake ones can't live forever.