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Saudi Clerics Call For Jihad Against Russia, Iran; NATO Warns Of Airspace "Violations"
It’s now been nearly a week since Russia began its air campaign in Syria and as we’ve documented extensively, both Moscow and the West have put their respective propaganda machines into high gear in an effort to control the narrative and thus dictate how history will remember Syria’s four-year-old, bloody civil war.
Lacking viable options in the face of Russia’s rapid military deployment at Latakia, the US has turned to the only thing left in the spin toolbox: the contention that Moscow’s airstrikes are hitting the “good” guys. Here’s WSJ:
Russia has targeted Syrian rebel groups backed by the Central Intelligence Agency in a string of airstrikes running for days, leading the U.S. to conclude that it is an intentional effort by Moscow, American officials said.
The assessment, which is shared by commanders on the ground, has deepened U.S. anger at Moscow and sparked a debate within the administration over how the U.S. can come to the aid of its proxy forces without getting sucked deeper into a proxy war that PresidentBarack Obama says he doesn’t want. The White House has so far been noncommittal about coming to the aid of CIA-backed rebels, wary of taking steps that could trigger a broader conflict.
U.S. officials said Russia’s targeting of its allies on the ground was a direct challenge to Mr. Obama’s Syria policy. Underlining the distrust, the Pentagon decided against sharing any information with Moscow about the areas where U.S. allies were located because it suspected Russia would use that information to target them more directly or provide the information to President Bashar al-Assad’s regime.
American officials and the allied commanders said several other rebel groups covertly backed by the U.S. and its coalition allies have also been targeted by the Russians. They include the First Coastal Division, whose base in northern Latakia province near the Turkish border was struck twice on Oct. 2 starting at 9:45 p.m., according to the group’s commander, Capt. Muhammad Haj Ali.
The Obama administration briefly considered asking the Russians to avoid certain areas inside Syria held by moderate opposition rebels, officials said. But they set aside the idea when it became evident the Russians could use the information to more directly target America’s allies.
There have long been skeptics within the Obama administration and the Congress about the CIA’s arm-and-train program in Syria, reflecting doubts in both branches of government about the ability and the wisdom of trying to build an anti-Assad army from scratch.
“On day one, you can say it was a one-time mistake,” a senior U.S. official said of Russia’s strike on one of the allied rebel group’s headquarters. “But on day three and day four, there’s no question it’s intentional. They know what they’re hitting.”
Yes, they indeed do “know what they’re hitting.” They’re hitting any and all targets that are strategically significant for Assad’s enemies which means that, as we’ve said repeatedly of late, this is going to be over in a matter of months if not weeks unless the US decides it’s finally time to deploy the best recession cure of all: war.
And as unlikely as you may think that is, the media seems to be preparing the American public for a possible direct confrontation with the Russians. As a reminder, Moscow's warplanes allegedly violated NATO member Turkey's airspace on Monday and thanks to Erdogan's need to secure Washington's acquiescence for Ankara's crackdown on the PKK, the US is flying sorties out of Incirlik which means, as we noted earlier today, "close calls" between US and Russian jets are likely to increase. Here’s CBS:
U.S. pilots flying F-16s out of Turkey first picked up the Russian planes on radar. The Russians closed to within 20 miles, at which point the American pilots could visually identify them on their targeting cameras.
Lt. Gen. Charles Brown, commander of the American air campaign, said the Russians have come even closer than that to his unmanned drones.
"The closest has been within a handful of miles of our remotely piloted aircraft," said Brown. "But to our manned aircraft they've not been closer than about 20 miles."
Brown said he intends to simply work around the Russians in Syria, and he doesn't think they will crowd out American operations.
"We're up a lot more often than [the Russians] are so when we do have to move around [them] for safe operation, it's for a small period of time compared to the hours and hours that we're airborne over Iraq and Syria," said Brown.
Indeed, NATO is apparently "not buying" Russia's "excuse" that it violated Turkey's airspace by accident. Here's Reuters:
NATO on Tuesday rejected Moscow's explanation that its warplanes violated the air space of alliance member Turkey at the weekend by mistake and said Russia was sending more ground troops to Syria.
With Russia extending its air strikes to include the ancient city of Palmyra, Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan said he was losing patience with Russian violations of his country's air space.
"An attack on Turkey means an attack on NATO," Erdogan warned at a Brussels news conference.
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said the alliance had reports of a substantial Russian military build-up in Syria, including ground troops and ships in the eastern Mediterranean.
"I will not speculate on the motives ... but this does not look like an accident and we have seen two of them," Stoltenberg said of the air incursions over Turkey's border with Syria. He noted that they "lasted for a long time".
The incidents, which NATO has described as "extremely dangerous" and "unacceptable", underscore the risks of a further escalation of the Syrian civil war, as Russian and U.S. warplanes fly combat missions over the same country for the first time since World War Two.
Meanwhile, The Kremlin is being careful to preserve its image as the hero in all of this by formally rejecting calls for a no-fly zone, even as Russia's bombing raids have effectively served to keep everyone else out of the skies. Via Bloomberg:
Russia rebuffed calls for a no-fly zone over Syria as Saudi clerics and Islamist rebels urged for retaliation against its extended bombing campaign that has targeted Islamic State and other militant groups in the Arab country.
Officials from Moscow ruled out sending troops to take part in ground operations in Syria, a day after the head of the Russian parliament’s defense committee said volunteers could go to fight, including some who took part in the conflict in Ukraine. NATO meanwhile said Russian incursions into Turkish airspace in recent days looked deliberate.
A no-fly zone would breach Syrian sovereignty and “isn’t based on the UN Charter and international law,” Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov, who is Russia’s special presidential envoy to the Middle East, said in an interview published Tuesday by the Interfax news service. “Of course, we are against this. You need to respect the sovereignty of countries.”
Russia began its air campaign last week to bomb Islamic State and other jihadist groups in Syria, its first foray outside the former Soviet Union in more than three decades. Syria’s opposition groups, including Islamist rebels, and anti-Russia fighters with Islamic State have criticized the move, with many likening its intervention in Syria to the Soviet Union’s involvement in Afghanistan that began in 1979.
"Many" may ideed be likening it to the Soviet-Afghan war but one person who certainly is not is Moscow's spin lady extraordinaire Maria Zakharova:
- RUSSIA WILL NEVER REPEAT AFGHAN EXPERIENCE IN SYRIA: ZAKHAROVA
So there you have it. But even if Russia doesn't intend to repeat the Afghan experience, and even if the notion being propogated in the Western media that Moscow's effort to eradicate Assad's opponents will somehow promote terrorism is largely a myth, it looks as though the Saudis are set to promote still more violence in Syria thus creating a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy, and on that note, we close with this from Bloomberg:
More than 50 Saudi clerics called on Syrian rebels and Muslim countries on Monday to support a jihad against Syria’s government and its allies.
"This is a real war on Sunnis, their countries and their identities," said the statement. It urged the rebels to join a "jihad against the enemy of God and your enemy and Muslims will back you every way they can."
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On a positive note, this will provide an opportunity for those trapped in Gold and Silver to get out before the next plunge.
I want to see the Saudis on an all out war with Russia. I want to see how the Saudi clerics and the Saudi Royal family cope with the Gulag Archipelago which was abolished in 1954 but is still very much there, for extreme criminal cases .
bs Solzhenitsyn would disagree
he lived evil systems ending, wrote about and later met with Putin
hard criminals are in high security prisons, black dolphin and others
gulag was never a Russian construct
I don't mean gulag in the strict Stalin sense. I mean the wider Russian Siberia prison system. It makes anything the US has look like a holiday. The hardest criminals in the US would rather get executed than doing time in one of those places. Don't you dare tell me that those funding ISIS (and we all know who they are) don't deserve life in a Siberian prison collony.
How many jihads and declarations in the name of Allah have there been since Lehman?
Extremist Saudi clerics on the same side as the US of A? Tell me something I don't know
Downvote this if you are a serial downvoting bot that should have its account spanked.
Bible Thumper
that expression about says it all
Why put Russian boots on the ground when the Iranians and Chinese are on the other side of the hill? Putin is a master strategist, the best since Napoleon or Bismarck.
Wahhabistanis, and not just clerics, must be near shitting themselves. That pungent, fetid smell in their nostrils is not lambs' eyeballs fricasse but the breath of the Bear and if oil isn't back above USD100 PDQ toast is on the menu.
Release the Chechens. A little Sunni on Sunni action
I doubt the Chechens would be all that willing to go shoot other Sunnis. Shiites on the other hand.......
I think he meant, they will release the Chechen's (and other islamic terrorists) on Russia. I bet that is what the USA is planning, and what they will do.
ohh yes they will
https://www.rt.com/politics/317393-this-will-be-holiday-kadyrov/
I'm reminded of that scene in Braveheart where the English allied Irish suddenly switch sides to the Scots during a battle. I don't mean to insult the Chechens by comparing them to the Irish but they are probably about as reliable in a crisis.
US Refuses To Accept US Soldiers Bodies Killed By Russian Airstrikes In Syria
Kremlin today states that the Obama regime has refused to repatriate the bodies of at least 3 suspected US Special Forces/Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) soldiers killed by devastating Aerospace Forces air attacks upon an al Qaeda command-and-control center in the Syrian village of al-Latamneh that caused the deaths of over 134 terrorists an.....
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1923.htm
Hmmmm, lets see some real images of the dead bodies. If the Russian media shows the images, somebody, somewhere will recognize their dead soldier...if that's even the case. This whole debacle will be ripe for disinformation.
CIA running Syria opposition? HA! Our CIA is 93% analysts who've never seen anything outside their own front yards, and the other 7% are the true operatives overseas, which really isn't that much if you need info from on the ground. These Syria oppositions are run by the State Dept., since they were the originals who started the "regime changes" that began with Tunisia and Lybia, and now are blowing up in their faces. The State Dept. has a beef with the CIA that goes back decades. They don't like each other very much. And how will Russia deal with Saah-auudi-Arabeeea? They know very well how to do that. And you won't be hearing much about the Saah-auuuu-deees very much in the future.
Terrorists moving military hardware closer to civilian builidngs, this time a mosque. The Ministry of defense stated it won't engage targets near civilian infrastructure and especially near mosques.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP4b47LaBJE
What Ministry of Defense? Russia's? If I were a Mullah and they started parking heavy weapons next to my Mosque, I would be very uncomfortable. If I were their insurance agent, I would cancel their policy. ;-)
Yeah, Russia's Ministry of defense, I thought it was unambiguous since the link leads to a video on their youtube channel.
No one's clicking your links, man.
Yeah, what a lazy bunch of people, can't even click a link on the internet properly anymore :P
I clicked on the link, and here is what it says:
????? ??????? ???????????? ??????? ??????? ????? ??????????? ????????Strange, it should at least display some text in Cyrillic. Try trough google translate.
The Cyrillic does not copy & paste properly.
Too much bother for something that doesn't matter.
Russia will bomb what they want to bomb in Syria, Mosque or no Mosque, if important targets are nearby.
NATO warns of airspace violations?
Wonder what they considered Libya?, Iraq?, Afghanistan?, Serbia?, Yemen?, Pakistan?...
How can they say this crap with a straight face?
Cause Saudi did so well in Chechnya last time around. Guess they're a touch slow to learn. Must be to much sun.
Saudi's can't even handle Yemen
I think the house of Saud would be more than happy to get rid of the house of Wahhab, which really is responsible for creating Wahhabism, whose followers caused more than enough trouble already and have put a serious stain on Islam as a religion.
Islam as a religion probably only makes up maybe 5%-10% of its followers, the rest of the believers are pretty much cult members owned by various branches of extremist governments / leaders (same cult, multiple leaders, different levels of extremism and hate rhetoric and actions) all bad for the most part, with a lot of people forced into joining against their will (made to believe in the hate teachings) and follow the cult leaders orders... all these various houses (family lines) are only interested in one thing, continuing their blood rule over their useful idiots for as many generations as possible, so they spread these radical deceptions and these idiots in the cult buy it up" go fight for god" when in reality all these cult members are fighting for a false prophet who is giving orders through an evil sob interested only in his family continuing to rule over and rape and pillage the masses.
70-80% of Islam is a genocidal cult, the rest of them are delusional and think their religion preaches peace lol
And I have nothing against people who believe anything, its just a fact at this point that the entire Islamic religion is being used as a tool/cult to get people to throw their lives away for the benefit of a few individuals who could give two shits about them, these Muslim men who go off to fight their Jihad war will die and leave their wives and daughters behind for their own brothers to rape and murder over their own grave.
Rather than do the sensible thing and abandon the cult and go build a real life full of meaning and family they chose to go fight an un-holy war and die and to leave their family to the wolves who barked them orders.
Concur, and I wonder what the political correct would scream if some catholic bishops would demand every other week to fight or kill someone ...
I dont say it to be insensitive to Muslim people, I know a lot of Muslim people and most of them are pretty upstanding folks, but when it comes to the institutional level of Islam... its pretty bad.... most of these Islamic govts/states are terrible/have terrible leaders who completely take advantage of gullible masses in their own country.
Rather than sit there and educate and promote peace, most of the Islamic govts in the middle east promote tyranny, oppression, and violence (even between their own people).
Sharia law is just terrible, oppressive in nature, violates basic human rights . . . its barbaric, and obviously none of these "Islamic govts" give a shit about their own people they are in it for the power (they get off on it).
What is the literacy rate in half these countries? 50-60%? half of them cant even read the Quran (700 pages) let alone understand anything in it on metaphysical level , but they defend it adamantly lol that is the very definition of a cult... a bunch of people following blindly what some "voodoo priest" says.... if Voodoo Priest says go sacrifice yourself for a holy war... the illiterate masses will go and do so.
Its just sad that so many people in these countries are deceived so easily by a bunch of self indulgent religious leaders preaching hate.
Islam in theory could be great, but in practice the way its being orchestrated its more of a tool of oppression and war and violence than it is anything else IN THOSE REGIONS, its just another layer of control and deception . . . .
I mean just look at Turkey, half their citizens are fleeing to greek islands seeking to escape the idiocracy (Turkey is a modern day Nazi State for the most part despite the pretty pictures they try and paint of it), if the tables were reversed and it were Greek Christians seeking refuge from a natural distaster landing on Turkish beaches chances are they would be shot on sight and put into mass graves, these places are anything but "holy" and their holy wars are more unholy than anything.
When the founder of your "religion" was a mass murderer, robber, pedophile, dedicated to the obliteration of anyone who did not submit to his rule, and he claimed his writings were commands from god delivered to him directly by an angel, you cannot be an adherent and not be a risk to those outside the "religion".
Your "prophet" demands you force everyone else to submit. So either you are an apostate or a true believer dedicated to the harm of all non muslims (of course mohammed did allow you to lie and hide your intent if in a position of weakness).
+>>1, spot on; you're not insenstive at all - excellent critique. Wish it would be read by many. Disclosure: I yam an 'merican muslim (maybe I should use that as a byline ;-)
Kind of like American soildiers who went to die in foreign lands after being lied into war (Iraq), or a false flag incident (Afghanistan, Viet Nam).
From your post above:
"being used as a tool/cult to get people to throw their lives away for the benefit of a few individuals who could give two shits about them"
Obama is doing his war chant and signing up right now ^^ . . .
Russia will obliterate them all, you dont need a crystal ball to see that.
Excellent point about Turkey and its Airbase.
http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/10/01/putins-blitz-leaves-washington-ra...
What Does Russia Want in Syria?
TND Guest Contributor: Tony Cartalucci |
The Western media has portrayed Russia’s recent joint anti-terror security operations with the Syrian government as a means of expanding its influence beyond its borders. CNN in its article, “Petraeus accuses Putin of trying to re-establish Russian Empire,” would go as far as claiming:
Full story, click here: http://thenewsdoctors.com/?p=517033
Petraeus' education level seems to be going up a little. He used to say Putin was trying to re-establish the Soviet Union.
Maybe he is thinking more clearly since he isn't busy planning his next rendezvous with his girlfriend.
"It’s now been nearly a week since Russia began its air campaign in Syria and as we’ve documented extensively, both Moscow and the West have put their respective propaganda machines into high gear in an effort to control the narrative and thus dictate how history will remember Syria’s four-year-old, bloody civil war."
I have great respect for this website but I do disagree with this statement, that is, until someone proves to me that "Moscow" like the "West" is a serial, pathological liar and employs almost perfect, total inversions of the truth on a daily if not hourly basis. In the West those in the know have long held that "if their (governments/press) lips are moving...they are lying. For the past two years I have been reading on a daily basis, FortRuss, Sputmik, Russia Insider, Pravda, Russia Today and The Saker among others and am certain that they don't belong being lumped in with the sickeningly disgusting Lie machine that is the Western press. I see a world of difference in the way Russia conducts itself compared to what can only be described as the Satanist "West".
Erdogan is delusional. European leaders and Europeans are not too fond of him at the moment. No European will fight for Turkey.
Turkey violates Greek airspace on a daily basis so they should STFU.
Let's be specific, Turkey's military leaders on the orders of Erdo?an repeatedly violate their neighbors.
Europeans have spent 700 years trying to rid themselves of the terrible Turk, and they will do nothing but rejoice at a final victory against them.
Racist Europeans. Racist MiddleEasterners. Fuck them all.
Even the most naive person out there must now realize that the Saudis have been a major cause of the recent problems over the last couple of decades. Look how easily they get defensive. US may have to prepare to obtain all foreign oil supplies elsewhere.
The US already gets most of its foreign oil elsewhere. That's not the issue. Take Saudi oil off the market, and other players will start trying to muscle in on our current sources, plus there is the whole petro dollar world reserve currency thing that we rely on and would be fucked without.
SO the Saudis now have a jihad going against Russia.
Doesn't seem like it will be very long - before there is a major ramp-up of Saudi funding for Al Qaeda and ISIS. Who else are the Saudis going to fund - the Saudis aren't going to put boots on the ground in Syria and there's nobody else who's willing to do the fighting.
All of this puts the West in a very uncomfortable position ... we've conducting a multi-year "War Against Terror" (Al Qaeda and ISIS), and now suddenly our primary ally in the Middle East is going to step up arms flow and money to these same groups.
The Fog Of War is getting thicker and thicker.
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Umm what?
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Syria rebels seeks unity against Russian 'occupation'
Forty-one groups call on regional states to form an alliance against Russian and Iranian forces backing President Assad.
Forty-one groups, including the powerful Ahrar al-Sham faction and some units fighting under the Free Syrian Army, condemned "the Russian-Iranian alliance occupying Syria" in a statement released on Monday.
The rebels called on regional states to form an alliance against Russian and Iranian forces fighting on behalf of President Bashar al-Assad's regime.
"They are using Nusra's presence as an excuse to kill civilians and fight the opposition," he told Al Jazeera.
While Russian strikes have targeted some ISIL positions, the majority have hit anti-government rebels advancing towards the state-controlled Latakia province.
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/10/syria-rebels-russia-15100600322322...
"The militants now have to wear burqas to conceal their weapons and ISIL command also ordered them not to move in large formations," the source added.
Read more: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151006/1028108514/syria-russia-airstrikes-isil-scared.html#ixzz3nogzDzDcThe Islamic State leadership also cancelled collective prayers that were previously held by the terrorist group members on the city streets. According to the source, weddings and public punishments are also no longer held in the city's squares.
The Saudis are honking for a jihad against Russia.
Funny, they didn't say a word when the USA was "bombing" ISIL.
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The Saudis would applaud if the Russians would bomb Daesh (they love that name hehehe) But the Russians would first need to do that...
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The author of this article said this:
Yes, they indeed do “know what they’re hitting.” They’re hitting any and all targets that are strategically significant for Assad’s enemies which means that, as we’ve said repeatedly of late, this is going to be over in a matter of months if not weeks
BBBBWWAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHAAAAA!!!!!!
Yea sure. Weeks. Brilliant deduction...
The Russians have stepped in it and are about redefine the term "weeks" with this other word phrase called "very expensive years"
Putins Waterloo in full and bold colors...
"We'll be home for Christmas!" - Way too many Brits in 1914.
I doubt that Putin is dumb as you.
There will be limited Russian boots on the ground, but plenty of Syrian, Iranian, Hezbollah, Kurd, and even Iraqi boots. I imagine Russia will fight a very careful and strategic war, providing just the level of support needed to beat down and soften up targets for the others to mop up.
Military intelligence is incredibly valuable, and Russia will have great sources of motivated 'natives' who speak the language and fit right in the population to help them pinpoint targets. Spies who can sit in the cafes and attend the Mosques without suspicion. Just sit back and watch. You might learn how to properly destroy an enemy's fighting ability.
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Wait, are we discussing Afghanistan 79 or are we discussing Syria today?
Exactly. Russia doesn't need boots on the ground because there are plenty of those from Iran and (southern) Iraq, Shia wanting to obliterate the Sunnis who are doing the fighting for the US to overthrow Assad.
The Sunni/Shia fight could get very nasty and the repurcussions elsewhere are unpredicable.
is it ok if we have jihad against them??? like attack them, their assets and embassy . is that cool?
This isn't going to be over in weeks or months.
This has the potential to become the War Of The Nations Of The Earth conducted on the soil of the Middle East. It seems a lot more likely that many, many countries will be dragged into this.
The people who are immediately on the "firing line" are Russia's Marines who are guarding the Russian air base (s) in Latakia. Those defenders are now in the crosshairs of every jihadist who is trying to draw blood.
Potential....a big, somewhat meaningless word.
This has to be fought by proxy. Russia is the only country there by invitation of the sovereign nation of Syria, hence the only one with legitimate claim to the air space. Soon, there will be all kinds of high tech, ground based defensive weapons strategically placed in Syria, and a few offensive ones as well. Is America going to challenge Russia in the air over Syria under those conditions? Is Israel? Is Turkey, or France? They would be shot down in a matter of minutes if things started getting out of hand. It would be nothing like our bombing raids over North Viet Nam where our aircraft could largely evade the NVA weapons. This shit is real, and America and NATO have no legal or moral basis for interfering in Syria.
So, do you put your money on more rag tag Jihadists showing up to go after Russia, or do you bet on Iranians, Kurds, Syrians, Iraqis and Hezbollah fighting forces who will be working with them?
Yes, the "potential" is there for almost anything to happen, but I think I know where the best odds are.
It's a matter of the dipshit neocons doing something that accidentally starts a war, and they are very capable of accidentally starting some shit that they'll expect us to fight and die for.
That rah rah wave the flag bullshit is wearing mighty thin, even around the VFW.
Let's face it. Our government has no credibility left.
Islamic Republic will blow up mosques and blame it on Russian aviation http://whatreallyhappened.com/
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A question. How does "whatreallyhappened.com" know what will happen in the future? After all, the website is named "what" really happened. That would portend that they undersatnd things that have already happened and not the future. However, you are linking to them as if they know the future. Interesting. They know the future how exactly? Perhaps they are part of this "future" they talk about?
Can we just get on with it... that is if Russia and China have their fill of oil and weapons...they have been training enough... tired of all the drama... buy up all the silver and crash the markets already
And as unlikely as you may think that is, the media seems to be preparing the American public for a possible direct confrontation with the Russians.
Ha.. Hah... Hah.. Ha... Ha!...
Does that come a la mode with a Charlie Dangle "draft"?... OR do we just all volunteer to walk into the mother of all meat grinder's against the best military in the air and on the ground with the focus we lost after 2004 when the U.S. military knew 9/11 was a total lie and fabrication and destroyed the Middle East anyway???....
P.S.
Even if the "white chimp" sets off a half dozen dirty bombs across multiple American and European cities and blames it on Russia, ain't nobody either inside or outside the U.S. armed forces would be stupid enough to sign up for that shit detail after 14 years of what we've done everywhere else the U.S. has been!
"Syria's opposition groups, including Islamist rebels, and anti-Russia fighters with Islamic State have criticized the move, with many likening its intervention in Syria to the Soviet Union’s involvement in Afghanistan that began in 1979."
It's EXACTLY like Afghanistan:
"However, despite this alleged threat, Russia first intervened in Afghanistan in 1979 to defend the secular government the US regime was doing its best to overthrow."
From: http://www.globalresearch.ca/where-did-obama-really-go-to-school-and-wha...
One of the best outcomes of this situation would be the end of the House of Saud.
When you say 'end' I do hope you mean'death', right?
The scumbag ZioNazi's want bear meat for dinner, i.e. rape and steal the Russian land mass.
So having nothing to lose they....(well you can fill in the blank,..eh!)
I consider this to be a positive development.
The more energy these Islamic assholes put into killing other Islamic assholes, and being themselves killed in turn, the better.
Curious.... anyone know how to call for an American Jihad against Saudi?
1) Find a viable alternative to oil.
2) Crash the petrodollar.
3) Release classified information about some of the shady shit that the Saudi's have undoubtedly done.
this is a funny article. Jihad is bullshit against people who are not politically correct adn don't give a shit about you or your cause. The ruskis will take your jihad and raise you some fighter jets bombing the crap out of you.
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Hey bro, can you explain how the Russian AF will use some "fighter jets to bomb the creap out of them" when the Jihadis take the fight to Moscow?
Are you suggesting that the Russian AF will bomb Moscow? Oh my...
Well, go on an' git then! Get on over to Moscow and start you some jihad!!
if the US political class weren't so pussy whipped by the progressive panty waist faggot tree huggers, we'd have wiped our asses with those jihad jerkoffs and laid waste to their entire goat fucking population. Done and Done!!
Why is the middle east so screwed up?
Saudi Arabia Awakes to the Perils of InbreedingSaudi Arabia Awakes to the Perils of Inbreeding
Widespread inbreeding in Saudi Arabia has produced several genetic disorders, prompting the government to call for mandatory blood tests before marriage. View on www.nytimes.com Preview by Yahoo Genetic referrals of Middle Eastern origin in a western city: inbreeding and disease profile.
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WHY?
Here is one big reason.
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Disinformation: Former Spy Chief Reveals Secret Strategies for Undermining Freedom, Attacking Religion, and Promoting Terrorism
The highest-ranking Soviet bloc intelligence official ever to defect to the West, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa is at it again.
How the Soviet bloc planted 4,000 agents of influence in the Islamic world, armed with hundreds of thousands of copies of the most infamous anti-Semitic book in history, to fan the flames of ancient Arab resentments against the U.S. and Israel and sow the seeds of anti-Semitism that would later bloom in the form of violence and terror toward Jews and Christians.
http://www.amazon.com/Disinformation-Strategies-Undermining-Attacking-Pr...
what happens when the zionazis pull some bigger than 9/11 false flag expecting all patriotic american men and women to storm the recruiting offices and instead get no response because everyone knows it is zionazi bullshit?
i recently had an impromptu audience of about ten people when i mentioned i trade stocks for a living. everyone was concerned, not only about the market but the usa in general. a couple of them openly called bs on everything and the rest sort of nodded in agreement. this is the first time i have seen aknowledged public dissent from working stiff people in a group, by people who don't know each other, directed at our .gov .
the zionazis have lit the fire. the people are almost ready to send them to the crematory.
That shit happens again we will have to drop everything we have on Tel Aviv, Jerusalem, Riyadh and Mecca, and finally put an end to this nonsense.
Si pace vis, para bellum.
The Nobel Peace Prize and a vainglorious personality that includes notions of reshaping the world in his own image have contrived to place the US President's legacy ahead of US strategic interests.
"And as unlikely as you may think that is, the media seems to be preparing the American public for a possible direct confrontation with the Russians... " ain't gonna happen. At least not until that old maxim 'si pace vis, para bellum' is rediscovered.
What kind of religion has its preachers instigating for war?
Sadly, all of them. Assholes come in all religious stripes.
the Saudis can bitch and moan all they want it really doesn't matter now, anybody foolish enough to answer the call to jihad will just get bombed anyways. the Saudi government won't officially recognize or endorse this call to arms because they are not going to provide the one thing these various groups so desperately need now.
air support.
without it they are just more meat for the grinder and more expensive crap for the Russians to blow up. and early 80's MANPADS like the stinger are useless against modern day fighters so unless they are going to pony up for some more advanced medium and long range SAM systems which they would have to launch a massive effort to train there proxies on using there is nothing they can do. not to mention even if they did manage to field such systems they would be vulnerable to attack from the air, land or sea so once again without somebody to challenge Russia's dominance in the skies any effort restricted solely to ground action is doomed to fail.
the only real option left to the Washington, gulf state, Turkey alliance if they intend to salvage their plans is a massive and very direct military intervention and attempt to drive the Russians and Iran out, destroy the Syrian army and take Damascus. but there is little to no chance that such an outright invasion won't set off a much larger war and we all know how that ends.
but they might just try something, some FF to give them a manufactured moral high ground from which to attempt to brow beat Russia and Iran into backing off or accepting an unfavorable "political settlement" thus achieving their aims. though I fail to see any situation where this would actually work and not lead to a major war they may try it before they start shooting.
whatever happens from here it interesting to watch Moscow bulldoze four years of plotting and scheming by DC and friends in a matter of a week and a half. guess they are learning the hard way it's not a really burger king world after all.
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Oh my... all hope is lost. Putin is a hero. Aliens are behind the 9/11 fatulence flag attack. The fed is evil and buy gold...
Lol...
CIA Analyst: We want to invade Cuba with a proxy army and everyone will rise up,overthrow
Castro and the Church will get their properties back (Ditto Coca Cola,ITT phone service,airlines,etc.),
and the Mob will get their hotels and Casinos back.It is all win-win...
JFK: Sounds kinda optimistic.I just got here at the white house,and I am inheriting this
business from Ike.Lessee.You have pretty shitty security.Everyone is talking about the invasion.
Castro has a couple of beat up jets which could take out your air support.Sounds to me like opera bouffe.
Well,go ahead as long as I don't have to come to the rescue.I want deniability if anything goes wrong,
and I don't want my fingerprints all over the smoking gun if the shit goes south.
CIA Analyst: Mr. President,this is a sure thing,and we wouldn't try to rope you into anything against
your conscience.
JFK: Well,just so long as you have a fallback position. In case of a disaster on your hands,don't drop
a stinker on my desk.
CIA Anayst: No worries... (But stay away from Dallas in November).
Jihad !
Jihad against the apostate Assad and Infidel Putin.
The whole of Sunni Islam is against Russia the Infidel, or so goes the new propaganda.
Sounds like Casey in Afghan 1979 calling the Mujahideen to rise and asking the Pak ISI to form the future cadres of Talibanism in its Madrassas; the Klu Klux Klan of the Jihadist plague that unfurled on Afghan and spilled over to Usa as blowback and then was sent to Iraq under GWB's false flag of WMD.
And now its rinse and repeat !
What the CIA spawned in Afghan is now being spawned in Syrac by the same Saud/US-CIA alliance.
What a game of smoke and mirrors !
"My enemy of yester-year, if he is now the enemy of my new enemy --the forever enemy of Russian bear and his deep Asia great game-- he will be my new ally until I can dispose of him like a used Kleenex, once the game is over; just like I did for his cloned copy in Afghan in 1989 when I abandoned him to his fate. I had won the War against the Soviet; he was no use to me, he could rot in hell for all I cared!"
So goes the imperial sway of things.
"Once bitten twice shy"...says Putin.
"I've learned from Afghan but has Pax Americana learned from its global games from Nam to Iraq?"
Apparently not! As it used Arab Spring to do bloody regime change in Q-daffy land and it uses the same to evince Assad...
Enter Macduff! And he says no to Macbeth !
What is rotten in this whole game is that Saddam like Q-daffy like Assad are not Western compatible; except they sit on the biggest Oil patch in the world.
AND DAT is a situation which makes their domains priceless !
Jihad is Jihad for OIL from the Imperial perspective; and damned be he who cries "hold enuff" in name of humanity!
As Napoleon said to Metternich before the Russian invasion : what do I care about a million dead if I can win the Great game!
Which 50 fucktard Saudi clerics? Which Saudi faction do they belong to? Why don't they report that?
Fuck the Saudis. Fucking roaches.
why isn't the USA paying the taliban to attack someone? they seem better than our guys
Headline should have read " the US and UN told their bitches to start shit with Russia"
Obambo drew a map of Europe for after the war. http://gatesofvienna.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/europemaphudna.gif
they must be getting desperate, just let Russia push isis back between the Euphrates, and Tigris rivers, then let the Kurds have them.
the Sunnis are such a majority in the me. they could take 50% of opec with baseball bats, arm them militarily at your own risk.
The Saudi Wahabis are not Sunnis
Wahhabis were bornFromJewishWhoresInPastInTurkey called Doneh
They are only favoring Israel secretly as their blood brothers.
Rather All Sunnis & Shias etc all muslims must stand up against the Saudi Royal family wahhabis
Saudis are fake muslims , pretending to be.
Real muslims should now stand up & drive away the saudi wahhabi royal family & capture Mecca & Medina.
Which explains why Saudi Arabia and Israel never disagree over anything and have the most cordial relations.
Cordial relations between them is rather odd given that one is zionist/jewish (and has hostile/unfriendly relations with most other M/E countries), the other is supposedly islamic and both want to dominate the M/E.
We can put an end to these stupid wars with a world government. Peace for all time.
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That is the end point to what is currently taking place.
Choosing sides just advances the NWO.