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St. Louis Prepares For "Catastrophic Event" As Underground Fire Nears Nuclear Waste Cache

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Beneath the surface of a St. Louis-area landfill lurk two things that should never meet: a slow-burning fire and a cache of Cold War-era nuclear waste, separated by no more than 1,200 feet.

As AP reports,

Government officials have quietly adopted an emergency plan in case the smoldering embers ever reach the waste, a potentially “catastrophic event” that could send up a plume of radioactive smoke over a densely populated area near the city’s main airport.

 

Although the fire at Bridgeton Landfill has been burning since at least 2010, the plan for a worst-case scenario was developed only a year ago and never publicized until this week, when St. Louis radio station KMOX first obtained a copy.

But don't panic, as officials say it is "contained"...

County Executive Steve Stenger cautioned that the plan “is not an indication of any imminent danger.”

 

“It is county government’s responsibility to protect the health, safety and well-being of all St. Louis County residents,” he said in a statement.

 

Landfill operator Republic Services downplayed any risk. Interceptor wells — underground structures that capture below-surface gasses — and other safeguards are in place to keep the fire and the nuclear waste separate.

 

“County officials and emergency managers have an obligation to plan for various scenarios, even very remote ones,” landfill spokesman Russ Knocke said in a statement. The landfill “is safe and intensively monitored.”

The cause of the fire is unknown. For years, the most immediate concern has been an odor created by the smoldering. Republic Services is spending millions of dollars to ease or eliminate the smell by removing concrete pipes that allowed the odor to escape and installing plastic caps over parts of the landfill.

Directly next to Bridgeton Landfill is West Lake Landfill, also owned by Republic Services. The West Lake facility was contaminated with radioactive waste from uranium processing by a St. Louis company known as Mallinckrodt Chemical. The waste was illegally dumped in 1973 and includes material that dates back to the Manhattan Project, which created the first atomic bomb in the 1940s.

The Environmental Protection Agency is still deciding how to clean up the waste. The landfill was designated a Superfund site in 1990.

The proximity of the two environmental hazards is what worries residents and environmentalists. At the closest point, they are 1,000 to 1,200 feet apart.

If the underground fire reaches the waste, “there is a potential for radioactive fallout to be released in the smoke plume and spread throughout the region,” according to the disaster plan.

The plan calls for evacuations and development of emergency shelters, both in St. Louis County and neighboring St. Charles County. Private and volunteer groups, and perhaps the federal government, would be called upon to help, depending on the severity of the emergency.

No reports of illness have been linked to the nuclear waste. But the smell caused by the underground burning is often so foul that Missouri Attorney General Chris Koster sued Republic Services in 2013, alleging negligent management and violation of state environmental laws. The case is scheduled to go to trial in March.

Last month, Koster said he was troubled by new reports about the site. One found radiological contamination in trees outside the landfill’s perimeter. Another showed evidence that the fire has moved past two rows of interceptor wells and closer to the nuclear waste.

 

Koster said the reports were evidence that Republic Services “does not have this site under control.” Republic Services responded by accusing the state of intentionally exacerbating “public angst and confusion.”

 

Ed Smith of the Missouri Coalition for the Environment said he would like to see the county become even more involved “to ensure that businesses, schools, hospitals and individuals know how to respond in a possible disaster at the landfill, just like preparing for an earthquake or tornado.”

Underground smoldering is not unheard of, especially in abandoned coal mines. Common causes include lightning strikes, forest fires and illegal burning of waste.

At least 98 underground mine fires in nine states were burning in 2013, according to the Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement.

Few underground fires can match one in Centralia, Pennsylvania. In 1962, a huge pile of trash in the town dump, near a coal mine, was set on fire, and it has burned beneath the town for more than half a century.

 

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Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:02 | 6642675 RyanW525
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Peak death?

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:05 | 6642679 ZerOhead
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ISIS?

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:18 | 6642719 Goldilocks
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P!nk - Get The Party Started
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mW1dbiD_zDk (3:21)

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:31 | 6642761 Tom Servo
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I grew up in that area, and there's an awareness movement of  the extremely high incents of cancer in the north st. louis county area around a little pissant stream called "coldwater creek".  Apparently the army dumped a bunch of radioactive waste in the creek watershed near the airport, and it flooded frequently, contaminating areas where I grew up and played baseball.  One of my parents died of lung cancer in 2010, most likely related to that.  

 

One of the many reasons I left that hole... then ferguson had to happen...

 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:38 | 6642781 Publicus
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lol, surely those supporting nuclear power will volunteer to fight the fire.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:54 | 6642831 CrazyCooter
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Why can't the city/state/fed government just pass a law that says fires can't get within 100ft of radioactive waste? PROBLEM SOLVED!

Didn't they get at least a bachelors, if not a masters, in political science? Morons!

Regards,

Cooter

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:07 | 6642865 Pairadimes
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Well, now we know where the DHS detention camps for the Midwest are going to be.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:23 | 6642894 mophead
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“there is a potential for radioactive fallout to be released in the smoke plume and spread throughout the region,”

Looks like another devalue-by-disaster event.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 02:36 | 6643126 RafterManFMJ
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The Environmental Protection Agency is deciding how to clean up the waste.

OH SHIT!!

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 02:42 | 6643136 Lore
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Re: "One found radiological contamination in trees outside the landfill’s perimeter..."

In other words, the stuff is already out. Glad I don't own real estate around St. Louis.

Why cap the vents? Doesn't that just cause buildup? Do they WANT an explosion? 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 03:03 | 6643164 random999
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Ben bernak and yellen been playin with fire?

lets fire up some nuclear stuff to celebrate the global meltdown that we created.
It might also give cover to deutsche bank or glencore who knows?

Or maybe ben and yellen are *working* in boston and not in st. louis? Ah who knows...

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 04:01 | 6643200 Rock On Roger
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CAT is slow, get some hoes in there and dig the shit out.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 04:11 | 6643212 BC6
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You didn't build that

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 04:20 | 6643218 Four chan
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aint no fire like a subatomic fire.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 05:57 | 6643276 negative rates
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Eager to create a bomb, the gvt has now created long term problems. The gvt is NOT the answer to your problems, gvt is the problem.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 09:03 | 6643729 Bunghole
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Landfill fires are generally started by greedy landfill gas operators trying to extract the maximum methane volume out of the waste mass.  When they over pull on a landfill gas extraction system, oxygen gets introduced into the landfill and a fire can spontaneouly combust.

A typical solid waste landfill will have 1-2% oxygen in it's landfill gas compostition.

Once you get it above 5%, poof!

Republic has started several landfill fires by over pulling on their landfill gas to energy projects.

Another way fires get started is a chemical reaction in the waste mass.

Republic's Countywide LF accepted aluminum dross back in the 80's.  The dross reacted with the acidic leachate and a chemical reaction fire started.

That sucker heated the waste mass to over 260° F and melted the HDPE base liner.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 10:09 | 6644073 pelican
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Clean safe nulcear power. 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 09:11 | 6643777 A Nanny Moose
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Shovel ready.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 03:35 | 6643188 MontgomeryScott
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Besides welfare-sucking-leech-maggots of the 'African' descent, St. Louis is known for it's rich history as a place where French Creole pirates set up their operations (as well as a place where the PTB decided to build a concrete 'Arch' of 'time immortal').

Hurricane Katrina, while purposely steered, wasn't enough to wake the rest of the nation up to these facts. The B.P. Mancondo issue wasn't enough.

NOTHING will be 'enough', but they are repeatedly warned...

YES, they DO want an EXPLOSION. NO, NOT the RESIDENTS... the ones who are CONTROLLING this shit.

Pleased to meet you. Hope you guessed my name:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBecM3CQVD8

Lore:

This is Lt. DATA (your brother), transmitting this reply.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:47 | 6643047 ImReady
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Cooter you crazy! Crazy like a fox! 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 08:59 | 6643705 Beowulf55
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First rule of government:  We are here to help you.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 07:01 | 6643342 booboo
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"The Environmental Protection Agency is still deciding how to clean up the waste. The landfill was designated a Superfund site in 1990."

That is all you need to know.

So 25 fucking years later and they are still having meetings, going to lunches, retreats, wringing hands AND they knew about longer than that. The government is complicit in this I can guarantee, they just ain't saying.

 

 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 13:19 | 6645045 Kobe Beef
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Did anybody else immediately think of the Garbage Avalanches in Idiocracy?

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 09:01 | 6643720 TuPhat
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This was not a result of nuclear power but a result of weapons research.  If you are going to demonize something at least get the facts straight.  As for risk, why haven't we evacuated Denver Colorado?  The natural background radiation in Denver is many times that of the rest of the country.  Everyone living there has a much greater risk of cancer but no one is worried about it.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 09:09 | 6643762 A Nanny Moose
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Nothing wrong with nuclear power. There is something very wrong with our particular form of government encourage execution. Nuclear power is just another government program.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:52 | 6642830 atomicwasted
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Nothing to upvote about parents dying.  That sucks.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:23 | 6642893 I-am-not-one-of-them
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after Fukushima, those wth geiger countrers kept having high readings in St. Louis when other areas didn't

probably had nothing to do with Fukushima, but was from local contamination

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:30 | 6642909 Vullsain
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St. Louis should not worry about a little trash fire, they need to use their tax dollars for a new NFL stadium. subsidize the billionaires and let the peons put up with a bit of stench and some higher cancer rates for the sake of the civic pride that an NFL team provides.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 02:45 | 6643141 Seer
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But... "It's [stadium] is for the children!"

I fought a small-scale stadium in a small city I once lived in.  I am hoping that judgment day comes for all the fuckers that pushed it.  Slimy bastards!

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 06:24 | 6643301 Scooby Dooby Doo
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We should all be worried. Anheuser Busch has a 16" drain pipe that pulls water out of the Mississippi river. The water is clarified but NOT purified and then it's used to ferment the grains of the gods.

Be very worried! Pray to the grain gods. Damn the Republic of Waste!

https://www.google.com/maps/place/2959+Busch+Pl,+St+Louis,+MO+63118/@38....!3m1!1e3!4m6!1m3!3m2!1s0x87d8b3914214ffed:0xb1d9bbb096785d9!2s2959+Busch+Pl,+St+Louis,+MO+63118!3m1!1s0x87d8b3914214ffed:0xb1d9bbb096785d9

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 09:00 | 6643715 Beowulf55
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At the end of the world you still have to have the circus going to distract the masses.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:40 | 6643036 uhland62
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Amongst my wider circle of aquaintances (here in Australia) is someone who has a niece in St. Louis. Her stepmother was diagnosed with lung cancer and it sounded serious, but haven't heard in the last six months or so. Pretty pathetic.

Legacy issues - it's totally pathetic. The UK Sellafield site will continue to cost billions for ... ever, last time I looked. The German dump Gorleben was declared 'safe' for decades - now closed for new deposits and no longer safe. But the wolves thrive in Chernobyl.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 03:55 | 6643198 MontgomeryScott
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WOW!

I'll eat a banana and thank Ann Coulter for informing me that Fukushima radiation is actually GOOD for me (as reported on FAUX news).

Rupert Murdoch: The source of ALL THINGS TRUE!

'Exclusion Zones' be DAMNED!

FIRE UP those REACTORS! (waiting for references to 'Trading Places', produced by Arron Russo; one of my personal heroes)

 

 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 04:36 | 6643226 explosivo
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Same here. I also lost a parent to cancer who worked in that area. When do we roll out the guillotines? 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 08:15 | 6643475 HowardBeale
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Where are you moving next? Going to short the entire city...

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:55 | 6642840 Sanity Bear
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if it were ISIS they'd respond by spying on your 13-year-old daughter's selfies

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:25 | 6643014 Lurk Skywatcher
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ISIS? No, they said Cold War era... so that means its the Russians fault.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:41 | 6642757 Takeaction2
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Call the people at Fuck U SHima...they are wizards at containing it all...as well as adjusting the daily limits of radioactive material one can handle to fit any current reading they get.  It is all safe.   It is just a meter...and numbers.  You can't see it.  What are you worried about?  /s

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Did a little research...Shit since 2010..
 How and when did the fire start at the Bridgeton Landfill?

On Dec. 23, 2010, Bridgeton Landfill LLC reported to the MDNR that elevated temperatures had been detected in some gas extraction wells at the landfill. The facility began testing the landfill gas and found high levels of hydrogen and carbon monoxide and low levels of methane. All these conditions are indicative of a “subsurface smoldering event” or underground fire. It’s located in the southern part of the landfill, known as the “south quarry.”

Technically, this is not a “fire” in the traditional sense with smoke and flames. Rather, it’s a chemical reaction that produces temperatures higher than 170 degrees. At Bridgeton, temperatures as high as 300 degrees have been detected.

Is the fire dangerous?

Underground landfill fires produce potentially toxic gases, including carbon monoxide, volatile organic compounds, aldehydes, hydrogen sulfide, sulfur dioxide and benzene ? a known carcinogen.

Area residents first started noticing an increase in smelly fumes from the landfill early in the spring of 2012. Since then, air sampling conducted by Republic Services and the MDNR ? as well as more frequent monitoring starting about a year later ? has occasionally detected unsafe concentrations of some compounds.

Article here...

.http://news.stlpublicradio.org/post/confused-about-bridgeton-and-west-la...

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WOW...On occasion we have unsafe readings...Just WOW.

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Glad I am on the west coast mother fuckers.  

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:44 | 6642804 pFXTim
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> they are wizards at containing it

 

I believe the operative word here is WERE, i.e. they WERE wizards at containing it...

last I heard they had run fresh out of duct tape...

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:48 | 6642817 Takeaction2
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LOL.....They didn't contain shit...it is not contained..nor will it ever be contained.  What happened to the concrete walls...Ice walls...etc.  This thing going since 2010...and sometimes the fumes are a hazard... It never ends.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:11 | 6642845 Rusty Shorts
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The Cahokian curse.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:57 | 6642970 salvadordaly
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Glad I am on the west coast mother fuckers

Yeah thank god that Fukishima shit is contained!

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 02:48 | 6643145 Seer
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Globally fucked.  Nowherre to run.  We shat our nest...

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 05:53 | 6643274 StychoKiller
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"Please do not worry."

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 08:17 | 6643482 HowardBeale
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The PUC on the left coast just decided to store nuclear waste 100 ft from the ocean, at sea level, indefinitely. Good luck with that.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:51 | 6642826 AMPALANCE
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Peak life, somewhere in the area of the 1970's to 1980's. We are on the downside of the bell curve now, stick a fork in humanity, we are done. May the new owners learn from our mistakes.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:50 | 6642961 AL_SWEARENGEN
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SILENT HILL

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:44 | 6643041 thetruthhurts
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We can only hope....

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:02 | 6642676 NoDecaf
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It's gonna be yuge!! -Tonald J. Drump

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:04 | 6642681 max2205
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Glowing Lives Matter 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:14 | 6642708 willwork4food
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#glowinglivesmatter

fixeditforya

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:27 | 6642750 HardlyZero
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Glowing St. Louis nightlife.

No streetlamps, save electricity ?

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 02:47 | 6643143 ReligiousAtheist1
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Hahaha that gave me a good chuckle

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:06 | 6642682 VWAndy
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Did the EPA start the fire? Just wondering.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:12 | 6642701 NYPoke
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EPA indeed...and WTF have I never even heard about it?

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:32 | 6642764 Takeaction2
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You are only told what you need to know.....so that being said...Shit is about to go splat...so "they" are making a little plan.  LOL

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:33 | 6642768 ZerOhead
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That information is released strictly on a "need to glow" basis...

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:45 | 6642805 Takeaction2
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I see what you did....

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 02:49 | 6643147 Seer
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But, I heard that from those that did get to see it that it got "glowing" reviews!

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:12 | 6642703 HardlyZero
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Profit center ?

We Didn't Start the Fire - B. Joel

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFTLKWw542g 
Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:17 | 6643000 Agent P
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The EPA should just flood it....that seems to work well for them.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:06 | 6642683 williambanzai7
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Ho Li Fuk...Ushima!

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:39 | 6642934 Karaio
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That!

We are "exceptional" (even in shit).

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:43 | 6643040 Karaio
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Manure, "manure"

Chorume.

Worst existing acid in the face of the earth!

Proceeding from the decomposition of various elements is that the trace is, for example, the bottoms of garbage bags.

This acid melts fucking anything.

As an "exceptional" country, perhaps the US manure is stronger.

Friends:

Take a deep breath, hit in the chest and shout loudly:

"Now fucked"

hehe.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:07 | 6642686 upWising
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We all know that with radiation, as with money printing, and so much else in life....

If a little is good, a lot is better, and MOAR is better yet!

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:11 | 6642688 mademesmile
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I used to live about 10 miles from this dump.

Cannot tell you how glad I was when we sold our house, just to get out to the country. I didn't even know about raidation till later.

Hey, the gov. is monitering it and has a plan so I'm sure everyone will be just fine.

 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:36 | 6642776 CheapBastard
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I wonder what the cancer rate is near that "dump." These hazards usually cause slow deaths. For example, the area west of Houston shows liver cancer rates 10x the other areas of the city. Researchers are still studying the issues but it seems related to all the refinery 'stuff' in that area. I would not be surprised if leukemias, etc are also higher in that area. Also lung cancer rate is much higher in Houston then other parts of Texas.

 

It's important to do some reasearch on these things where you live.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:16 | 6642880 azusgm
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Did you mean to say "east of town"? The ship channel and refineries are east of town. I can't give you any real data, but I can tell you that there is an EPA superfund site in LaPorte, which is on the ship channel. LaPorte used to have a very good public school system, so families chose to live in LaPorte for the sake of their kids' educations. One of my coworkers found out that she lived about a mile from the superfund site right about the same time her toddler was diagnosed with leukemia. Later, one of her daughters was diagnosed with breast cancer in her 30's. So four kids, two eventually with cancer.

From "Disease Clusters in Texas", https://www.nrdc.org/health/diseaseclusters/files/texas_diseaseclusters.pdf

Location:

Houston, Harris County

Disease:

Childhood leukemia

Researchers from the University of Texas’s School of Public Health found that children who live within two miles of the Houston Ship Channel have a 56 percent greater chance of getting leukemia than children living elsewhere. The elevated rates of childhood leukemia were found in census tracts with the highest benzene and 1,3-butadiene levels in the air. The Houston Ship Channel is the largest petrochemical complex in the United States and a Rice University study released in 2006 showed that Houston had the highest air concentration of benzene and 1,3-butadiene in the country. Benzene and 1,3-butadiene are known to be human carcinogens.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:26 | 6642900 azusgm
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That. is. truly. evil.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 02:59 | 6643158 Seer
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Seems that there should be a trail here.  When testing is done like this there's got to be some data collection.  If it was to determine impacts on humans then somewhere along the line folks there had to have been scrutinized some how.  Wonder whether there's some special medical coding that gets used to collect the data?

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:08 | 6642689 Gab Timov
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the federal reserve should just print more landfill

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:08 | 6642690 Philo Beddoe
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But don't panic, as officials say it is "contained"...

Run!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:09 | 6642691 ZerOhead
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But don't panic, as officials say it is "contained"...

 

I have a deepening suspicion we are going to be hearing that phrase a lot going forward...

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:13 | 6642706 homiegot
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They are the TEPCO of America.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:37 | 6642780 CheapBastard
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It's only a "tiny leak."

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:11 | 6642697 homiegot
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Ha ha! Betcha never thought of that scenario! Build an underground ice wall. It'll work.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:31 | 6642762 ZerOhead
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They can buy a lightly used ice wall from the Japanese on E-Bay for under $1B if they hurry...

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:11 | 6642699 Seasmoke
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What the fuck just happened to Silver !!!!!!

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:22 | 6642739 Ignorance is bliss
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Did you ever see a person go into cardiac arrest? That's what the silver market looks like to me.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:28 | 6642743 NoWayJose
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Don't see anything else triggering it. Silver has been moving with oil, so watch oil overnight and tomorrow morning. If oil does not correct then silver should recover - but of course, a billion bank may have decided to dump a bunch of paper silver...

Chinese traders are also back after another one of their national holidays.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:28 | 6642753 Fukushima Fricassee
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Naked CB silver paper selling on the back of your taxes. Desperate fuckers last gasp if you ask me and the death of thier fucked up paper god cannot come soon enough.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:50 | 6642822 Skiprrrdog
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Paper silver is a joke, fuck *every last single one of them*. I traded it about four years ago, right up until the point where I discovered that the lunatic who owned PFGBest stole some of my account. The thieving jew *trusty* and the bankruptcy judge in Chicago stole what was left. Pretty fucked up world we live in...

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:13 | 6642704 Bill of Rights
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Nothing to see here move along...

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:14 | 6642707 atthelake
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Radioactivity is carried on the wind and would, most likely, be carried to the northeast which is unprepared for such an event.  

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:07 | 6642979 YuShun
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toward Indianapolis, Columbus, Pittsburgh,...

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 06:48 | 6643326 Arnold
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We welcome other peoples unwanted problems.

 

 

-- North Eastern Revitalization Bureau

 

 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 06:51 | 6643331 Vinividivinci
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North East resident here....bring it on bitchez !

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:14 | 6642710 NoWayJose
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The problem with underground trash fires is that they smolder and spread very quietly. They can only 'guess' where it is - hence the guesstimate of between 1000 and 1200 feet. Likewise, the guys that dumped the nuclear waste in 1973 are long dead, so precise location is also a guess. Drilling interceptor wells, removing vents, and capping simply doesn't stop a smoldering trash fire. They tried all that in Pennsylvania. They real beauty of a trash fire is that it is made up out of decaying trash, which generates its own 'natural gas'!

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:18 | 6642721 ToSoft4Truth
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Nuke the entire site fom orbit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCbfMkh940Q

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:29 | 6642754 bunnyswanson
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Spontaneous combustion.  Flawed design.  This happens in compost piles.  The people making decisions are either inept or the system was designed to only last a certain number of years.  Nuclear energy on fault lines is just a major EQ away from the Samson Option .

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:15 | 6642712 ToSoft4Truth
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That’s a Boeing CH-47 Chinook full of dollar bills! 

Send them all to Detroit. 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:15 | 6642713 homiegot
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So all the kids born around there after this stuff burns are going to be affected. In a few years we'll know if they lied.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:15 | 6642714 navy62802
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Solution: HALON 1301.

HALON would snuff out this underground fire in minutes.

Yes, it is damaging to the atmosphere, but I'd be willing to take that hit in order to put out this underground fire and avoid a nuclear catastrophe.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:20 | 6642730 ToSoft4Truth
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I second the motion.

Who will petition the White House?  We need to meet the signature threshold.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:18 | 6642723 Omega_Man
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the nuke waste is probably what IS burning 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:03 | 6642855 Rusty Shorts
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 BINGO

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:19 | 6642728 Ignorance is bliss
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Republic Services has created a huge monopoly that extends well past sanitation and landfills. I'd like to see those fuckers broken up and washed away.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:53 | 6642833 bunnyswanson
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Local level, it's clearly visible.  Good ole' boy clubs where the community leaders meet like gang members, conniving and devising ways to take as much money from the citizens without it being apparent while simultaneously making them and their cohorts milk it for all its worth, just as a syndicated criminal enterprise would.  Towing a truck and owning wrecking yard can make a Small Town Man a millionaire when the cops have him on speed dial.  Dark ages painted with the wild, wild west, gated community and ghetto-born prisoners will erupt when the curtain is pulled back, and all the crimals allowed to go unpunished, like an untreated festering septic boil,rotting justice from the inside will become the target in streets everywhere.  They brought this on themselves. 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:19 | 6642729 mademesmile
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This links the Ap source to "the Japan Times" which makes sense as they know alllll about this kind of disaster.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:23 | 6642740 Moccasin
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More cheap real estate is the St. Louis market. Good times. /sarc

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:25 | 6642744 tarabel
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Well, that clears one thing up.

Now we know where the melted Fukushima core went.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:25 | 6642746 Ms No
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Hopefully the people of St. Louis are immune after all of the testing their own government performed on them.

"But in 1994, the government said the tests were part of a biological weapons program and St. Louis was chosen because it bore some resemblance to Russian cities that the U.S. might attack. The material being sprayed was zinc cadmium sulfide, a fine fluorescent powder."  http://www.cbsnews.com/news/secret-cold-war-tests-in-st-louis-cause-worry/

"Martino-Taylor says she hasn’t been able to confirm for certain that St. Louisans were subject to radiological testing, but tells KSDK, "There's an awful lot of evidence that there were radiological components to the study." She says that a powder form of zinc cadmium sulfide was mixed with fluorescent particles so that dispersal patterns could be traced among unknowing test-subjects, and that a company called US Radium — previously put before a judge for radioactively contaminating its workers — has been linked to the scandal."  https://www.rt.com/usa/us-radioactive-louis-martino-taylor-443/

 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:25 | 6642747 rejected
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Yep, Nuclear Energy is clean and green

so say the environmentals. Noooo carbon.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:32 | 6642763 Lmo Mutton
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"But don't panic, as officials say it is "contained"..."

vs.

"been burning since at least 2010"

 

I don't get it.  Is it contained or not?

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:34 | 6642773 Demologos
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Clearly not.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 01:35 | 6643084 Matt
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It is burning within the contained area.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 03:25 | 6643168 Seer
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And when it starts burning outside the contained area they make the "contained area" bigger!  Masters!

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:33 | 6642767 Demologos
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Black swan? I''m sure Obama will get to the "bottom" of it. I have always supported nuclear power but I never expected the exceptional level of government incompetence we have achieved. On the superfund list since 1990? My 31-year old son was born in 1984.

Like the BP disaster, government should have seized the company assets and commenced with cleaning up the mess. I must have forgotten for whom the government, at every level, works.

Hey, who needs St. Louis anyway. Might kill a few undesirables in the vicinity and the Rams can move to Inglewood, so we have that going for us.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:33 | 6642770 Buster Cherry
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Well now, looks like plenty of shovel -ready jobs for.all those poor.Ferguson residents...

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:40 | 6642785 Demologos
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Digging graves? Cash for caskets up next?

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 19:51 | 6646971 mkkby
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No problem, contained -- translation:  goldman has figured out how to securitize the cancer treatments and death benefits.

Big boost to GDP and the local economy.  Everyone profits.  The management of the land fill, the kind folks who dumped their nuclear waste instead of spending money to properly handle it, the EPA gets a larger budget, and the banks get to finance every step.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:45 | 6642810 stormsailor
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wow, two funnies in one,  dindu nuffin/shovel  and ferguson/job,  very witty

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:39 | 6642775 The Old Man
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Another clusterfuck of mismanagement brought to you by government officials working with current engineering standards for Environmetally Sound Waste Management. Didn't we have rockets in 73 to send this shit to the sun or somewhere? We don't need this crap in landfills. We need it off planet. Do you guys know the half life of this crap? (Some of it 27,000 years) We got Fukishima and reactors built on fault lines all over the place. Are we stupid? Moronic? What the fuck were the people thinking back then? Cheap land is one thing. Dumb as hell is a whole different story. How are we going to pay? Cancer? Lymphoma? Leukemia? Birth Defects? What a way to run away from responsibility. The most efficient and profitable way to provide electricity and nuclear weapons is to turn a blind eye to the byproducts and physics of the problem? But hey, WE WON and the lights are still on!

The Old Man 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 01:38 | 6643087 Matt
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Let's say your rocket launches to space are 99% successful, and your program to get rid of nuclear waste takes 10,000 launches. That means 100 high atmosphere dispersals of the waste. At a cost probably in the trillions. 

 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:41 | 6642791 Ms No
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"Underground smoldering is not unheard of, especially in abandoned coal mines. Common causes include lightning strikes, forest fires and illegal burning of waste".

"At least 98 underground mine fires in nine states were burning in 2013, according to the Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement."

Am I missing something here?  There is no coal mine on site, or any mine on site for that matter, there is garbage and there is illegally dumped nuke material.  Burning coal mines or naturally burning coal veins are not an equivalent to illegally dumped radioactive material at risk of or already igniting it's surroundings.  Not to mention that coal fires do not render cities or entire sections of a country uninhabitable. 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:41 | 6642941 TeethVillage88s
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Landfill... owned by careless capitalist for profit, Privatization.

Half Century possible?

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 03:07 | 6643170 Seer
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Yeah, but coal mines are cool! (much needed in order to help subsidize Elon Musk's car production!)  Garbage, well, not so cool...

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:21 | 6642806 TeethVillage88s
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Broken Windows, Train Derailments, Bridge Collapse, Trade Center Implosion, Global War on Terrorism...

All Bullish!!!

Edit:

Burning coal mines, burning toxic trash, nuclear meltdown in Japan termed as Generator failure...

Gay marriage endorsed by Supremes...

Hyper sensitive Semitics, liberals, blacks, gays, school teachers/preachers, illegal aliens...

Cop violence on citizens & blacks...

Hyper Domestic police state and Zionist style domestic police training, accompanied by presence of foreign dual citizens, and unlimited gift giving to politicians and unlimited tenure of political appointees...

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 02:20 | 6643116 Lost in translation
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I need to print this out!

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 03:09 | 6643171 Seer
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What, you thought that a dying empire shold look more attractive?

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:56 | 6642841 venturen
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how can it be illegally dumped when it was the government which know best and always tells the truth...just ask comrade Obama. 

Can't they just frack that fire with all that water pressure they always tell us about

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:08 | 6642861 Ajax_USB_Port_R...
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Gagbage burning in one landfill. Solid nuclear waste in the other landfill. Underground fires in garbage landfills happen all the time. When the garbage fire gets to the perimiter of the garbage landfill, it will not continue into the nuclear area. And the garbage fire can't be soooo deep that they couldn't dig a trench to separate the landfills. I don't see a problem. Makes for a good story though.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 01:41 | 6643090 Matt
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They have spent millions of dollars on simply trying to suppress the smell. If it was so simple to just dig a trench, I'm fairly sure it would have been done already.

You are certain that carbon monoxide, natural gas, and other combustibles cannot travel sideways through the ground, it always comes straight up?! 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 12:35 | 6644743 Ajax_USB_Port_R...
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A parallel to the US strategy for fighting ISIS? If they wanted to put the fire out they could have. Strip mining equipment could dig out that fire in short order! Bring in the BIG stuff and it’s over. NO, they just wanted to keep to odor down.  I wonder who has the contract for that lifetime make work job?

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 06:26 | 6643306 buzzkillb
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"There continues to be no health, safety or environmental reason to build a barrier. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has said that West Lake Landfill is safe. The Missouri Department of Health & Senior Services has said there is no public health or safety risk at Bridgeton Landfill." http://www.bridgetonlandfill.com/questions-and-answers

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:10 | 6642873 general ambivalent
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Dead Kennedys - Cesspools In Eden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A73EfB3HRiY

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:11 | 6642874 HamSandwich
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oh look, another sensational article on ZH related to nuclear power and waste. "Nuclear waste" doesn't mean much of anything. It could be so low level that it is beyond background. Hell, Thorium (naturally occuring) is considered waste and it has a 14 billion year half life (the longer the half life, the less shit it will ever, ever, EVER do to you). This "waste" is probably acids used in the breakdown of Uranium Oxide (another naturally ocurring mineral), for use in power and weapons (post isotopic enrichment). Uranium oxide has a half life of 4.46 Billion years or 700 Million years depending on whether it is U238 or U235. This stuff is literally EVERYWHRE. Have granite countertops in your house? It's in there. Granite bedrock below you? It's there, too. Guess what comes out of the ground, naturally? Radon gas....probably the very stuff that makes this classified as "nuclear waste".

 

Why is ZH so full of know-nothing tinfoilers that can't tell you what an isotopic decay chain is, yet act like they're experts on all things NUKEYOULARR. I've never been to Reddit, but I assume it is where this filth belongs.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:31 | 6643018 ZerOhead
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"This stuff is literally EVERYWHERE"

That's good news to know because it looks like it's going to be going up in smoke soon...

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:22 | 6642888 yogibear
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"But don't panic, as officials say it is "contained"."

"Subprime is contained."

- Ben Bernanke, 2008

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:22 | 6642891 Duc888
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"you didn't build that"

 

"We Irradiated some folks"

 

Ha.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:37 | 6642929 dochood
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Great.  I live equidistant from both this AND Ferguson.

I have lived here for 20 years...  I've wanted to move for a long time, but I couldn't get the wife on board.  Well, we may get our wish, but not in a way that we like.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:44 | 6642949 dochood
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On the way to church, we would drive over the Missouri River to St. Charles.  My kids would always go, "Ewwwwww.... what's that SMELL???"

I always told them, "That's the casinos dumping the adult DEPENDS worn by the senior citizens who don't want to walk away from their 'primed' slot machines!"

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:49 | 6642958 TalkToLind
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BULLISH!  That's because the Greater St. Louis area is packed with new car dealerships and all of them are filled to the brim with stagnant inventory. If those new cars become contaminated with radiation, every last one of them will need to be destroyed and rebuilt! Think of the jobs that will be created! Someone give Paul Krugman a towel.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:59 | 6642972 WillyGroper
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Guess eating at Charlie Gitto's is out of the question.

IIRC there was a child's playground still open contaminated as all get out.

Glad to see they're still on it.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:08 | 6642983 just the tip
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why not just re-route the mississippi river through there.  tomorrow it's new orleans problem.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:16 | 6642998 onmail1
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CabalA$$LickerHomObamma: We have confirmed reports dat dis iz a sabotaz by Russians

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:18 | 6643002 robertocarlos
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Dig a trench around the nuclear waste and fill it with water. It will freeze solid and then the fire will be stopped.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:21 | 6643010 silverer
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 "Move along here, nothing to see" finally makes sense.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 01:03 | 6643064 ractivist
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It's really China's new lazer.  They figured it easier than digging their way here.... heads up, the invasion follows.

 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:30 | 6643022 Uranium Mountain
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As ZH is to the Markets,  http://enenews.com/ is to Nuclear Energy.   If you want to know what is going on with Fukushima, Pacific Sea Life die off, The WIPP disastor, LA contamination and other Nuclear realated topics.  Visit that site.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:30 | 6643023 Uranium Mountain
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As ZH is to the Markets,  http://enenews.com/ is to Nuclear Energy.   If you want to know what is going on with Fukushima, Pacific Sea Life die off, The WIPP disastor, LA contamination and other Nuclear realated topics.  Visit that site.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 06:37 | 6643315 Vinividivinci
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Why the 3 downvotes...? @ Mountain, gave ya'll a great liink for real news on global nuclear issues and disasters.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 23:17 | 6647581 Uranium Mountain
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Perhaps the down votes are from Trolls?  Nuclear Energy is big money.  There are interests at stake.  No surprise if those same interests visit this site as well.  

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:48 | 6643046 darteaus
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Hey, will the MLB playoffs and World Series be done before this gets bad?

Go Cubs!

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 01:58 | 6643100 The Wedge
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Beat me to it!

Go Cubs!

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 06:59 | 6643052 NEKO
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"Although the fire at Bridgeton Landfill has been burning since at least 2010' I thought that must be a matter for concern, but apparently not.

 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 01:56 | 6643099 The Wedge
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As long as the Cubs beat St Louis.

Go Cubs!

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 02:38 | 6643134 WTFUD
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Catastrophic Indeed but i reckon the Cardinals can make the Play-Offs with a 9-7 season. s/c

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