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Lawmaker Calls For Study On Links Between Pharmaceuticals And Mass Killers
Submitted by Barry Donegan via TheAntiMedia.org,
Following recent media reports of high-profile mass shootings, a Republican assemblywoman from Nevada is calling for an investigation into whether psychiatric pharmaceuticals commonly taken by mass murderers can cause side effects that may contribute to their mental health decline.
According to KSNV Las Vegas, GOP Assemblywoman Michele Fiore says that, rather than blaming mass shootings on the guns used by the perpetrators, studies should be done on the drugs that many of them have a history of having taken to treat mental health disorders.
“We have to look into what is being prescribed and what is in these meds just like clinical studies. Why don’t we do studies on the medication all of these shooters were taking and take that medication off the market? Obviously, medications can alter your mind just as alcohol can alter the mind,” said Fiore.
Though it is not yet known whether the perpetrator in last week’s tragic shooting at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon was on psychiatric medication, early reports from The Oregonian note that he identified himself by the social media screen name “lithium love,” he mentioned anger and depression in a note that was found in connection with the attack, and he had a long history of behavioral problems in school.
He had also been discharged by the U.S. Army midway through basic training in 2008 and graduated from a school that The Oregonian described as “geared for special education students with a range of issues from learning disabilities, health problems and autism or Asperger’s Disorder.”
In August of this year, a CBS46 Atlanta Reality Check report by Ben Swann raised questions about the possibility of a connection between mass murderers and pharmaceutical drugs used to treat mental health disorders, noting that 26 high-profile perpetrators had been taking psychiatric medication.
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I like 'good news' stories.
Seems like common sense to me.
Massive influx of campaign cash in exchange for killing this idea from big pharma in 3...2...1..
But the pro-gun lobby is never behind pro-gun initiatives. Got it
Guns are simply a fact of modern life. The shootings typically end when a good guy/gal shows up with another gun. We're not coaching kittens outa trees here.
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Rally in Roseburg: Patriots Plan to Tell Obama He’s Not Welcome
http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/rally-in-roseburg-patriots-plan-to-te...
DATE: 9 October 2016 (THIS Friday)
TIME: 9 AM (subject to change slightly based on intel about his arrival)
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LOCATION 2: Intersection of Edenbower Blvd and Hwy 99, Roseburg
LOCATION 3: Intersection of College Road and Hwy 99
***YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN FOR PARKING***
Do NOT park illegally. Once you have parked, walk to the closest of the three intersections.
– Expect to walk a bit of a distance if you have to park a ways off. Wear comfortable clothing and shoes.
– Bring water, sunscreen, snacks, etc. PREPARE to be out there for a few hours.
– Bring signs, flags, etc.
– If you choose to bring a firearm, please keep it holstered and/or properly secured, etc. Safety and responsibility at all times.
– We are working on finding portapotties for the event. In order to do that we’ll need donations (something we hadn’t planned on needing!) We are opening an account for the funds and will post that account number so that people can donate if they so choose to help offset the expenses for the toilets.
There will be no speakers, no entertainment. Please plan accordingly if you bring children, pets, etc. If you do plan to bring your dog, please clean up after it. No trash will be left in the area. We WILL police our area and it WILL be left in as good or better shape than it was when we arrived.
We must move quickly to ban all medications before any more innocents are killed!!!
You want the list of SSRI killers? Here you go: http://ssristories.wpengine.com/old/index1.php
I guess it would be too much to ask for a study on the link between 'lawmakers' and 'mass killers', seeing as how they're often one and the same.
"Tonight we have shocking news breaking regarding mass shootings. For more we go to TheReplacement on the street."
That's right Janet. A new Harvard study is purporting to show a troubling correlation between politicians and mass shootings. It seems that every locale that has been the scene of a mass shooting has, in fact, a slew of politicians from local school boards to members of the Federal Government.
More at 10.
You can have my serotonin reuptake inhibitor when you pry 'em from my cold dead fingers!
don't forget the snris (serotonin, norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors) the worst of which, imo, is cymbalta. its withdrawal can make heroin withdrawal look like a nap on the porch.
Everyone is missing the boat here. One needs to ask "Why are so many people taking all these meds?" The answer is people eat 9 - 12 times more omega-6 oils than their bodies can handle. Once these oils are eaten, they will displace other fats (see the Norwegian Health Study) and stick around for a very very long time. The omega-6's are cleared by being partially beta oxidized and converted into cholesterol... unless of course one is on cholesterol lowering agents. Someone even did a study comparing omega-6 oil consumption to gun violence. This problem is not going to go away any time soon and will probably get quite a bit worse as everyone seems to think how healthy vegetable oil is. Cheers.
FGB
Ahhh, hmmm, its all about the oils. Thanks.
http://www.freewebs.com/fryoung/LA_Homicide_rates_Hibbeln_2004.pdf
may have been slightly beneficial if you would have mentioned where we get omega 6 oils. A link to the norwegians may have also been handy
And we have causation, not just correlation from studies referenced here:
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=230691
OH Noooooooooz!!!! But, where will find replacement advertising revenue?!?!?!
Folks can self medicate with bath salts, that should make them a little less volatile.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/florida-man-high-on-flakka-attacked-off...
Florida Man strikes again, damn you Florida Man!! DAMN YOU!!!
"Florida Man strikes again, damn you Florida Man!! DAMN YOU!!!"
Quote of the day. Thanks.
How about a link between Hollywood film violence and mass killings? That sounds more reasonable.
There has already been a thorough study on the link between SSRIs and the increased suicide in the military. I can't site the study but testimony was given before congress a couple of years ago. The study found that the younger you are the more likely you are to kill yourself and/or exhibit rage toward others. Just check out
http://ssristories.org/
"SSRI Stories is a collection of over 6,000 stories that have appeared in the media (newspapers, TV, scientific journals) in which prescription drugs were mentioned and in which the drugs may be linked to a variety of adverse outcomes including violence."
This is a major source of reports by categories of type of crime and type of drug.
Film violence AND violent video games.
By the time some of these pathetic kids reach their high school & college years, they are totally warped and socially dysfunctional. They are bundles of confusion with no real direction, then fill them up with drugs and wonder why some of them snap.
More reasonable? WTF. Try a little research on the link between SSRIs and mass shootings if you are not too busy buying big pharma shit for your portfolio.
You might be on to something.
An ice cold tagline like "Good, because you're a Christian, you're going to see God in just about one second" has Hollywood potential.
Nuubee - I dont think this issue is going away. It is a very big problem. Psychiatry has gotten a free pass also for far too long and never tell patients that 90% of there mental health issues begin in the digestive system. Here is a link to a great short article for more information. Most people dont know this.
Nuubee - I dont think this issue is going away. It is a very big problem. Psychiatry has gotten a free pass also for far too long and never tell patients that 90% of there mental health issues begin in the digestive system. Here is a link to a great short article for more information. Most people dont know this:
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/anxiety-head-gut/story?id=20229136
You might still need a light does of chill pill or anti depreseent but light doses that are non harmful.
DON"T EVER QUESTION WHETHER EVERY PERSON WITH A PULSE SHOULD HAVE A GUN THA"TS" STUPIT
/zhers
That is pretty stupid. They should have at least 2, in case the first one breaks or something...
Amazingly enough, I will go to Michael Moore for my response to this. [usually, I loathe him, but Bowling for Columbine had some good parts].
There are other countries with high proportion of gun ownership. Among others, Canada. Lots of people own guns there. Not nearly as many people committing this kind of mass killing (some, but far fewer). There's something else going on here than "access to guns". People having guns is not the problem; it's that more misfits in the U.S. are more likely to use them. Why? This will not be addressed by focusing on the guns, but by focusing on what is generating the misfits. There are plenty of potential suspects here (MSM, breakdown of family culture, psychoactive drugs, shitty food supply, etc, etc), but almost every one happens because it is generating profit in some way to the corporate structure that is the base of true power in the US. Thus, corporations have no desire to change the background which is generating (among so many other side effects) these mass killers.
Ignore all other facts and ask why such a high proportion of our population is incarcerated? The reason behind that is the same as the reason we have a high proportion of mass killers. The same environment is creating both groups.
Lack of community, lack of family etc. Isolation, all of the above. You are correct.
PS. "Guns are for hunting dangerous or delicious animals and keeping the king of England out of your face." - Krusty the Clown.
Add to that bad education and ever more restrictive laws. These are all intentionally promoted by the profit makers and those that want to control every aspect of society and commerce. All this sickness is merely to convince the public to end the right to protect your and your loved ones lives. No different than creating terrorists by invading other countries that have done nothing to the people of this country.
Expect heavy involvement from the drug companies. This will not go unchallenged.
WSJ is reporting Mercer was discharged from the military after an attempted suicide.
"Can pills whose listed side effects include suicidal and violent behavior cause a person to have violent and suicidal behavior?"
Gee, I don't know. But we should have a commitee get together to discuss the possibility of forming a board of inquiry to figure out if this warrants appointing a study group to decide if a government financed investigation is prudent.....
I'm sorry sir.. but the 'science' is settled. Fluoride a.k.a Prosac and vaccines and evrything else the FDA and CDC and any other alphabet agency of the gubmint says is safe IS SAFE!
I haven't used flouridated toothpaste in years. Try to drink only bottled water (either Fiji or Eternal), and don't use deodorant with aluminium in it. Especially with SSRI's, they basically mimic estrogen in men. This whole metrosexual/gay anti-male culture is meant to turn the sheep into lambs, so they can be led to the slaughter. This culture blows hard
...Only if it's a Blue Ribbon Committee - Otherwise, it would just be another waste of time.
Obviously it will be a blue ribbon commitee. We aren't stupid. And prudence demands that we hire the doctors from GSK and maerk, they know these things the best after all. Probably a person or two from the FDA as well, since most of them have worked for these same companies, we knownthisnwill give us an unbiased finding.
Pabst anyone?
About fucking time
Prescription drugs linked to shootings and suicide by cop and violent disturbed emotionless robotic cold blooded killings? Gee, you think?
How could anyone possibly connect that mass murderer in Oregan, the Trans-Pacific Partnership and David Rockefeller?
Am I nuts????? [rhetorical question -- no replies necessary]
Now that's far fetched --- or is it?
That murderer was taking prescription medicine, something it appears most, if not all, those mass killers have been doing, but the CorporateMedia stopped reporting on this?
Now, the TPP is predominantly concerned with copyright extension, IP extensions and especially, pharmaceutical patent extensions, which the pharma industry has been heavily lobbying them for.
Now, every single official US trade representative involved with TPP (including Froman), and in the senior ones over the past 20 to 30 years have all been on David Rockefeller's Trilateral Commission.
Now, going back to the 1960s or 1970s, before the ownership of corporations became murkier and murkier (difficult to track down), the majority (65% to 70%) of pharmaceutical corporations were owned by the Rockefeller family.
Just as we know today that the top three health insurers (Aetna, Anthem and UnitedHealth) have the same four majority shareholders: Vanguard Group, BlackRock, State Street and Fidelity (FMR LLC), we do not know who the major investors, i.e., owners, are invested through those firms.
http://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/news-stories/briefing-document/trading-away-health-trans-pacific-partnership-agreement-tpp
http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/10/5/tpp-called-big-win-for-big-pharma.html
http://twistedeconomix.com/2015/05/18/who-is-behind-the-trans-pacific-partnership/
Bingo!
Too many Parkers if you ask me.....
Wow...How come nobody ever though of that before? </sarc>
Same reason no one has suggested investigating possible links between this sort of event and the presence of gun-free zones. Or does the presence of a gun in the hands of a bad guy mean it is no longer a gun-free zone?
Karl Denniger has been writing on this for years. The SSRI's hae BLACK LETTER WARNINGS about the violent and sucicidal tendencies for younger males in the 16-28 age range, and the Doctors are supposed to monitor them.
I think the Doctor's are gonna have to ante up. Big Pharma is about to take a broadside. The young male issue has been know about since the inception of these drugs because it came out in the clinical trials. It was hushed up by big pharma and big med industry.
Big Pharma will circle the wagons and call in all that lobby money they've been pumping into Washington. They might even join in the campaign against guns with their megabucks, something the left will be very happy to receive, but they will never admit their product could alter people's minds in such a dangerous way.
Yes, and the media will be there to help them through any crisis. The TV ads are THE major profit center nowfor the stations.
See the below excerpt from this link:
http://novusdetox.com/press/dependence.php?include=138402
"Hope springs eternal in most of us. We hope that this solution will be different. Maybe this is why the diet pills keep selling on television. Maybe this one will work.
This attitude of consumers is also why the drug companies spent lots of money lobbying to get the Federal Drug Administration (“FDA”) to modify its rules regarding television advertising of prescription drugs. They knew that they could sell more and more of their drugs—even if they weren't needed and might actually do harm. Sales, nothing else, was important.
For years their lobbying efforts were unsuccessful. In fact, many of us remember when we could watch television with our children and not be asked to explain “erectile dysfunction” or “herpes” and then explain what the advertised drug does. This changed in August of 1997.
DIRECT TO CONSUMER
Direct to consumer advertising (“DTC”) is the name given to advertising prescription drugs in magazines, newspapers and television. Prior to 1997, the FDA rules said, “Advertisements promoting the medical use of prescription drugs must contain a "brief summary" of all important information about the advertised drug, including its side effects, contraindications and effectiveness. In addition, advertisements broadcast over radio, TV or through telephone communications systems must include a "major statement" prominently disclosing all of the major risks associated with the drug.”
Prior to August of 1997, print advertisements for prescription drugs were able to meet the "brief summary" requirement by including the risk-related sections of drug labeling together with the advertising copy. As the drug companies looked wistfully at the enormous marketing potential of television, they saw that there was no way to provide the required information about the drug in 30 second or one minute television ads.
Did Congress act? No, the FDA made the August 1997 rule change quietly and without consulting Congress or really anyone else. Their change allowed the drug companies to “...include information about any major risks, as well as instructions for how consumers can easily obtain more detailed information about the drug's approved uses and risks.”
FDA Lead Deputy Commissioner Michael J. Friedman, M.D was one of the driving forces behind this change long sought by the drug companies. Dr. Friedman said in 1997, "Today's action can help promote greater consumer awareness about prescription drugs. By describing realistic standards for television advertising of prescription drugs, we hope to end the uncertainty which has plagued both consumers and industry about the use of this medium. The FDA is committed to making sure that accurate and complete information is available to consumers."
In the 1997 rule revision, the FDA “...presumes that the broadcast ad is truthful, not misleading, and contains information about the major health risks associated with the drug"
"Karl Denniger has been writing on this for years."
Well, actually before I got bumped off his site.... I was the first one to make mention of it on Tickerforum long before he did a "ticker" on it. If he didn't scrub Tickerforum (the forums) off of the internets.... I could just link my many posts over there...
PODS has been warning us forever to either double down on our meds or give them up. Scooby didn't listen to PODS!
--Pods
Scooby is just pointing out the obvious.
looks like she will get a boatload of money from big pharma to shut up.
lol does that mean the gun lobby is behind every pro-gun initiative? Or just honest-to-God gun-toters?
Must have inlaws that need money so she will toss them a grant?
No, but two teenagers on drugs living with their moms just shot up two schools. Not everything is a conspiracy.
Let's see what the FBI's numbers are for that school, hey it's looking like a conspiracy.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the...
While he's at it look into if there's a link to mass shooters drugs and the NSA , or . Gov sub contractors .we need to take the weapons away from those northern gun nuts. The ones in DC
Exactly, correct me if I am wrong but short of that female politician (which may not qualify as a mass shooting) and the attack on the military recruiting station most of these SRI zombies have attacked their own population and many attacks were racially motivated (doesn't matter which race killed which). This wave or racially motivated crime was joined with a very obvious media operation and the media is owned by you know who. At the very least the media was and is promoting racial tensions and that is indicative of a propaganda operation. So if the gov/media will stir up violence among it's own people where does the operation end?
Seems strange to me that there have been 200+ nutter mass shootings and so few have been directed towards the system. It seems strange that there are copycats in the racial murders, police murders and general attacks against the population but no copycatting with the political targeting.
Why do all of the SSRI zombies target innocent people often based on religious and racial differences?
Same reason the government spent millions on why lesbians are fat.
What did they conclude?
They do a lot of eating out.
I love lesbians, they are so cute when they get angry....
If they would paid me 10K I would have told them the facts and saved tax payers a ton of money...
Most are fat and fugly. (The ones that are decent looking do it for attention, rebellion or for an excuse)
All are depressed and because of that, eat everything and anything.
Some turn back into being normal, those are overwhelmingly the decent looking ones. The fat and ugly usually get buz cuts and turn into cows that graze on whatever trendy junk food and minge they can get their tongue on. (which in turn burdens the healthcare system)
I've known many over the years and my observations are spot on.
Simple, and case closed.
God bless Assembywoman Fiore but that ain't goin' nowhere because that would be taking the lid off one of the biggest coverups in history. Pharma exec can go burn in Hell.
You are 100% right... and I know this first hand.
Do tell!
She needs to avoid nail guns
I doubt 'Big Pharma' will pay 1 cent in damages.
All these drugs are an excuse for "We don't know why the F*** you feel so bad. Here take this!"
Drugs are not the question, they are the answer.
Just got to figure a way to remove any free choice associated with them....
ssris....are wicked..I was taking GHB back in the early 90's when it was legal..for body building..took it for 4plus years straight ...I cannot even share what happened when i got off of it...just fucking wow...later found out its worse then heroin when you come off...gawd the thoughts I had...wicked..no fucking doubt in my mind...what these fuckers are on
If anything ever came of this it would be a problem for the pharma industry. Que.... mass shootings continue but with no links to drugs. All has to do is look into the Tsarnaev and Sandy Hook incidents, this will all be exposed eventually. I am surprised they haven't had Farrakhan back on TV running his mouth, maybe the spooks are tied up right now.
They want your guns.
About time!
Psychiatry causes suicides and gun violence.
http://www.naturalnews.com/051453_Christopher_Mercer_psychiatric_medications_autism_spectrum_disorder.html
Why do a study? There are already "studies" done by Big Pharma. Note the side effects. Suicidal tendencies and violent outbursts.
It took 50 years before the tobacco companies would allow anyone to admit to there being any kind of remote link between tobacco consumption and various forms of cancer.
And after 50 years and all that you can still buy their products. But now they have those tiny little cryptic warnings on the side.
So yeah good luck with all that.
Looks to me like the black box warning should add homocidal thoughts to the suicidal.
It already does.
http://www.anh-usa.org/take-this-antidepressant-and-you-too-may-have-a-v...
guns per capita for all countries and murders per capita for all countries, the USA leads, by an exponential factor (4.4% of world population, 42% of guns, 25 times more murders per capita than say Australia, many times more than the next)
more prescribed and non-prescribed drugs; militarism; racism; the manner the country developed (the wild wild west, ethnic cleansing of natives); Imperialism and the propaganda required to man and fund it, hate mongering and the demeaning of life; returning veterans from wars; constant wars; exceptionalism; brutality in the medias as entertainment, etc.
We have a violent kneegrow problem and hyspanic problem. Those are the facts.
With these facts
hyspanic ~18%
kneegrow ~13%
Caucasian ~60%
Do a "PER CAPITA" analysis with these figures (keep in mind, hyspanic is lumped in with real caucasians which I surmise is for political reasons)
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the...
Whites are the least of your worries, the minorities cause the vast majority of violent crimes.
Period. No argument.
there's racism in opportunity
you downtrod, then batter
there's racism in apprehending and prosecuting by race
cops don't go into white neignborhoods
explain with racism why there is racism, sheesh
most of the mass killings I've seen in the media have been committed by whites, and you put the blame on blacks, a very bigoted response
"mass shootings in the United States since 1982, white people -- almost exclusively white men -- committed some 64% of the shootings."
Like I said, do the MATH. The FBI compiles the numbers every year and blacks come out on top every year in per capita crime.
Most libtards are not good at math, critical, rational and logical thinking.
You have obviously never lived amongst them.
OR YOU ARE A KNEEGROW APOLOGIST.
That much is 100% certain.
you don't like my facts, but they are facts, you have more guns and you murder more people than anywhere, then you bring out a non sequitur that is racial
with your attitude, it will only get worse, you are cognitively disconnected
What you are basing your "facts" on are apples to grapes comparisons.
Different governments
Different societies.
Different welfare states.
Different ethnic make ups. (VERY Important)
DIFFERENT COUNTRIES COMPLETELY.
So your statement again, is irrelevant because you are trying to make a correlation based on completely different sets of information.
Liberal fucktards are legendary for doing this type of propaganda based on illogical assumptions.
You're just another moron libtard at working to spreading stupidity.
Just stop it. You're making yourself look like a liberal fool.
In the USA, more people are killed by hammers and clubs than by guns. This is true worldwide.
If Australia is so great then why was their a mass murder after the gun laws were changed in later 2014 when 8 kids were killed by a knife.
Lawmaker in the headline. Nevada Assemblywoman in the article. I agree with her on the issue, but she has about as much power as the white haired smelly guy at the end of the bar. C'mon Man!
It's interesting what a disaster our society has become and yet the politicians and corporations never seem to have any blame in the situation. It's always the people that are to blame and they have to give up their rights, standard of living and anything else they have to give. Chicago and Gary Indiana for example are complete disasters but this issue is always simplified as a gun problem and of course there is next to no mention that that Chicago's politicians have run that place like a mob clown car for as long as anyone can remember.
Warning! Side effects may include........() and bouts of severe psychosis which may or may not include fits of black out rage mass murdering kill sprees. To perform this action a firearm may or may not be used.
and remember take ALTERFLEX and enjoy an allergy free spring.
Didn't you mean fits of nigger rage?
Commonly known in medical circles as "Monkey Shines"....
This just in - depressed and crazy people take more pills for depression and crazy. Correlation is not causation. What these shooters all have in common is that they can't get laid.
"What these shooters all have in common is that they can't get laid."
and have access to guns and ammo
Look no further than the fine folks shoving ObamaCare down our throats. Then refer back to a SCOTUS named Roberts who declared drugs are a tax, not a mandate.
Supreme Court ObamaCare | Ruling on ObamaCare
Myself and a couple colleagues formed a focus group with ourselves as the only members. We got stoned and drunk and killed a few golf balls until we got too stoned and drunk then took a nap on #6. The greens keeper gave us a ride to a cab and everyone lived happily ever after......
no guns, no mass killings, it's as simple as that
Look into the subject of democide. Nobody does mass murder like the authorities which is why you were given the 2A to begin with.
To your pea-sized intellect, yes, it would be.
step 1: remove guns
step 2: replace Americans
problem solved
too many guns, too many Americans with their American mentality
Americans can't see the problem because the problem is them
Your statement was so fucktard liberal irrational, maybe you should remove yourself from the gene pool. It would be a minimal help, but helpful none-the-less.
just lots more violence and sexual assaults, you ok with that?
as guns are removed, more violence, like England, Australia, Massachusettes
as gun laws are relaxed, a decrease, like Texas and Florida
Liberals seek some kind of Utopia as if men don't commit violent acts if they don't have guns.
I would suggest studying the mental illness of liberals
Australia has 1/25th the murders per capita compared to the USA, had the Port Arthur massacre in 1996 and as a result restricted firearms and have had much less insidence of murders ever since. Don't know what you're on about, you're probably just trying to justify your insanity.
You cause social inequality, then you issue guns to defend the social inequaility.
I answer the article in question, then the rebuttles are unrelated.
mass killings vs social violence
I engaged the first then the rebuttle for the second when they use that as an excuse for the first
(And then some here try to blame the blacks for the whites going on killing sprees, bigoted and lame.
Moron Alert! In China, they don't have access to guns, so all their mass killings are done with knives or bombs!
So no! You're dead flat wrong!
The correct answer is No crazy psychos, no mass killings!
The tool or implement is not the problem, it is the person that CHOOSES the tool and then DECIDES to use it in a destructive manner! Personal choice, dude. It's a wonderful thing, but some people are just not able to handle the power and awesome responsibility. You sound like one of those people.
One thing about SSRIs is that the crazy behavior that they cause is at it's worst when they are first being taken and then when the individual goes off of the drug. Which has always been really convenient for pharma if you think about it, when people ask what the hell is wrong with them the answer is "oh they are off their meds again".
SSRIs are far from the only drugs that are potentially lethal when one stops taking them but if SSRIs were ever banned we would have to monitor each individual on them because otherwise this country would look like Japans suicide forest on steroids.
Now you're getting somewhere. And while you're at it...Why not study the link between Obamacare and drug companies.
" 26 high-profile perpetrators had been taking psychiatric medication."
Which means countless millions have also been taking these same meds and for some reason did NOT commit mass murder...
People will grasp at any straws to avoid having to ask themselves the really hard questions...like why are so many crumbling mentally in the first place? What is going on that so many feel or demonstrate a need for these drugs?
....YET! Prozac doesn't make you suicidal until you try to stop taking it. The answer to you question is A: Big pharma pays a lot of money to get doctorsand nurses to push that shit. B under socialized medicine the people using them don't really have to pay for them out of pocket. C: the people who take them are at best Apathetic D: it's an easy cure for parents who are not willing, or do not have the time to make proper parental decisions.
I agree and upvoted as Correlation is not Causation. BUT what is it that causes these people to forsake reality and their fellow man.
The drugs maybe loosens a person's empathy, being part of the herd, adding to what he lacks already.
The interactions in the society he lives in (short or long term) can be a trigger, with some event, some people, to desire revenge or thinking that it would be cool to just plainly murder to show them, the though festering in his mind.
Premeditated, acquiring arms and ammo, selecting location.
Desperate, suicidal, socially awkward and rejected, and taking psychotic drugs doesn't fit most people, and not everybody is willing to waste his life to waste other people's lives.
I love the fact that all these 'articles' even work on your typical 'zher'.
One side against another..regardless of topic.
Even on a 'free thinking ..truth' website..everything that you've been taught works like a charm.
Does anyone think for one second that any of this will stop ( big $$ in guns..big $$ in pharms)
And here we are the 'b&b' of ZH even..stating each side of the argument.
And y'all f'n hate on me for implying (even only occasionally ) that zh IS the controlled opposition.
'Let's get em arguin bout shit they usually agree upon' ..'It's worked for 200+ years..and the dummies fall for it every time. .hahahahaha''
Just sayin..sometimes there's more productive things to discuss is all.
(Hint: drugged society ain't goin nowhere. .so there IS no argument or discussion to be had...waste of Internet space folks)
All the so called experts are FOS. Welcome to Bizzarroland.
thats a hard side effect to pawn off.........................and lets face it Side Effect is a PC way of saying fuck up....................Here is a drug...........it will help your blood presure, and here is what it will fuck up
Thanks MiguelitoRaton
Keep it alive
Yo turd breath lawmaker, can you say, a day late and a dollar short?
http://ssristories.org/
I'd also avoid drinking from your local water supply as it contains drugs and possibly flouride from non natural sources.
Taking a drug off the market because a mass shooter was on it is as stupid as trying to eliminate guns. Unless you can prove the drug causes negative side effects on a wide scale, reacting to one person or a couple people is just such simplistic thinking. Would people say to ban booze if someone got loaded and then shot up a school or mall? I'm guessing not.
the lobbies have it covered, the American citizens are steadfast, nothing will ever change
we'll been discussing every new event year after into perpetuity
total constipated impass
There is a definite connection between people going off these drugs and having psychotic episodes shortly thereafter.
The worst case I recall is the mother who killed her two model teenage children. You look at this video and tell me she's not coming off some major medication:
https://youtu.be/s7urL-aXAUc
Get educated before shooting your mouth off and looking like an idiot! The connection and problem is documented on the packaging of the medications in black and white! Many of them spell it out quite clearly -- suicidal and rage episodes are clearly identified as a side effect for patients taking the medication UNDER THE AGE OF 25. So, how many of your mass shooters have been near or under the age of 25? Then line up how many have been on which SSRI? Now look up the documented side effects for that age cohort on those specific meds.
After you've done that, then come back here and shoot off your mouth and tell us all how smart you are!
Sugar Addiction.
you downvote any mention of restricting firearms, you downplay countries who have with success
maybe Americans and mass murder are just made for each other and intractable
blame everything and everyone else, "but guns are sacred" (spoken with an Idiocracy tone of voice, "guns, it's what plebs crave")
Yeah, and maybe you're an idiot who doesn't get the deeper meaning behind those issues.
Go back to the "E" Channel, where you belong.
The facts aren't on your side.
Cheese is on our side.
In China, mass murders are done with knivs. None of this easy bullet bang bang bullshit, they have to plunge the knife in with their bare hands. That's where we wanna be.
The bigger secret is that these drugs do close to fuck all. Anyone with an interest should read Joanna Moncrief's excellent work on the subject, some of which is hosted at the critical psychiatry network website, and can be accessed via google scholar, Athens etc. You will need to know how to critically appraise a research paper to fully understand her arguments.
Amok killings are part of the repertoire of natural human behaviour. People seem to have difficulty believing this, perhaps understandably.
My field of expertise :)
Don't hold your breath for any movement on this issue. There are way too many "wealthy" K Street drug pushers.