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Someone In Chicago Is Shot Every 2.8 Hours (Despite Major Gun Control)

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Having pointed out the surge in gun sales that has accompanied many of the largest mass shootings in America (and the government's instant knee-jerk reaction to tighten gun control, perhaps ignoring the mental problems many Americans face), and earlier noted that 'mass shootings' are now running at a pace of more than 1 per day in America, we thought DailyCaller.com's Mike Piccione's intriguing report detailing the supposed "gun-free-zone" of Chicago provided some crucial color that few seem willing to listen to...

Someone in Chicago has been shot every 2.84 hours this year for a total of 2,349 shootings during the period of January 1, 2015 to October 6, 2015, according to crime stats published by the Chicago Tribune.

 

This year, Chicago is expected to eclipse the previous milestone of a shooting every 3.38 hours in 2014 with a total victim count of 2,587.

But - Chicago ranks as one of the most regulated cities in the nation for gun control.

Concealed carry is almost nonexistent. To purchase a gun or ammunition requires a Firearm Owners Identification card in the entire state of Illinois, and additionally, a Chicago Firearm Permit – which is required to possess a firearm in Chicago.

 

Not only are the people heavily regulated in Chicago, but guns are also heavily regulated. Any long gun with a grip protruding from the stock or a firearm with a telescoping stock is prohibited and classified as an “assault weapon.”

 

Magazines are limited to a 12-round capacity.

 

Even a spring-powered pellet gun with a muzzle velocity of 700 feet-per-second is classified as a “firearm,” although it does not use gun powder, the component that puts the “fire” in “firearm.”

 

A stun-gun — a non-lethal device with no projectile — is considered a deadly weapon and cannot be carried for self-defense.

 

Chicago, for all intents and purposes, is a “gun-free zone.”

 

But all the state and city regulations associated with firearms in Chicago have failed to produce a safe city, and these are the policies that President Obama and Secretary Clinton wish to extend to the rest of the country.

 

While saying that “criminals go out-of-state to places where it is easier to obtain guns” is often used to push gun control, it illustrates that criminals ignore gun laws in every state and that onerous access to Second Amendment rights on law abiding citizens doesn’t stop crime.

 

Clinton’s campaign platform includes a call for federal legislation mandating background checks on all private firearms transfers and sales. Clinton also wants to repeal the “Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act.” That law protects firearm manufacturers from lawsuits for negligent use of firearms.

 

President Obama, through is spokesman Josh Earnest, has announced, “The president has frequently pushed his team to consider a range of executive actions that could more effectively keep guns out of the hands of criminals and others who shouldn’t have access to them. That’s something that is ongoing here.”

 

Per the president’s policy, Chicago has taken every action “that could more effectively keep guns out of the hands of criminals and others who shouldn’t have access to them.”

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Yet the shootings continue to rise...

 

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Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:35 | 6642285 Jason T
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Too many bastard chilrden.  

http://thesestonewalls.com/gordon-macrae/in-the-absence-of-fathers-a-sto...

forgive me for being politically correct, but the rate for blacks and hispanics, the childrn born out of wedlock is a complete disaster.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:39 | 6642294 Bumpo
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It's all 'Whitey's" fault

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:40 | 6642302 Buckaroo Banzai
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For any ZHers in the Pacific Northwest, consider attending this rally on Friday:

Rally in Roseburg: Patriots Plan to Tell Obama He’s Not Welcome

http://www.patrickhenrysociety.com/rally-in-roseburg-patriots-plan-to-te...

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TIME: 9 AM (subject to change slightly based on intel about his arrival)

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LOCATION 2: Intersection of Edenbower Blvd and Hwy 99, Roseburg

LOCATION 3: Intersection of College Road and Hwy 99

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Do NOT park illegally. Once you have parked, walk to the closest of the three intersections.

– Expect to walk a bit of a distance if you have to park a ways off. Wear comfortable clothing and shoes.
– Bring water, sunscreen, snacks, etc. PREPARE to be out there for a few hours.
– Bring signs, flags, etc.
– If you choose to bring a firearm, please keep it holstered and/or properly secured, etc. Safety and responsibility at all times.
– We are working on finding portapotties for the event. In order to do that we’ll need donations (something we hadn’t planned on needing!) We are opening an account for the funds and will post that account number so that people can donate if they so choose to help offset the expenses for the toilets.

There will be no speakers, no entertainment. Please plan accordingly if you bring children, pets, etc. If you do plan to bring your dog, please clean up after it. No trash will be left in the area. We WILL police our area and it WILL be left in as good or better shape than it was when we arrived.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:12 | 6642377 CheapBastard
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There's lots of free money shitting out children in America.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:37 | 6642459 r00t61
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No story on Chicago homo sapiens violence can be complete without:

http://heyjackass.com/

 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:08 | 6642545 Ness.
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Stats from that great site (heyjackass).

 

96.1% of victims are black/hispanic.

86.5% of the shooters are black/hispanic.

7.3% of the shooters are white/other.

3.9% of victims are classified as either white or other.

Hmmm????

Chicago is a sanctuary city with the toughest guns laws in America and has been ruled by the Alinskyites for decades.  Fucking Bill Ayers is (was) a professor at the Univeristy of Chicago.  This is going exactly to plan.

The most deadly place in the US are literally within miles of where these cocksuckers started "organizing" their communities.  Anyone remember ACORN?  I do.

As a lifelong Chicago resident, I have to say, I can't believe how stupid people (voters) really can be.  Gruber was right on the money.  Jesse Jackson Jr. just got released from prison and the fucking #blacklivesmatter morons are already raising money to support his next political run.  He went to prison for misusing campaign donations for his personal use.

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSfx0-q8Vd1LZanS45K...

And he'll win, again.  

This is why I sleep with a loaded glock and x-tra clips next to by bed.  

 

 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:34 | 6642614 Buster Cherry
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What percentage of the shooters/victims were non-white?

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:47 | 6642652 Divine Wind
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Most.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 02:35 | 6643129 Theosebes Goodfellow
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To illustrate just how much of this is from the infectious "Liberal Disease", the California Legislature is about to enact a ban of... permitted concealed weapons on California college campuses. As the vulgar but accurate Ron White correctly stated,

"You can't fix "stupid"."

I swear, you could not make this shit up.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:52 | 6642663 willwork4food
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Holy shit.

 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:40 | 6642305 buzzardsluck
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Just say what you mean...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG0QdKzATW8

 

 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:20 | 6642731 RSDallas
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This will continue until parents, first, turn to the word of God and teach that word to their children. Our God and The lord Jesus Christ have all the answers for anyone to explore in the Bible. Try reading it, just try it. Most people have one somewhere in their home. Hold the Bible between your hands and ask God to give you some guidance either about him or Jesus or even a problem that you are experiencing. Then Close your eyes and open the Bible, start by reading one page back and then finish one page past the page you opened to.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 07:44 | 6643413 jenniewadeguy
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Read the bible?  Read?  For comprehension?  Who is the advisement to?  The shooters in Chicago?  Do you actually believe that this genotype . . . .

 

Oh, foolish me.  For a moment I thought you were being serious.  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.  Lol.  That was good, buddy.

 

Whatch u talkin' bout, Willis?

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:38 | 6642286 Jason T
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fixing dubled comment.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:54 | 6642341 Scooby Dooby Doo
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+100 Well done Jason.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:38 | 6642297 Moccasin
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and I thought Kabul had lost of gunfire and was dangerous..... oh well.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 08:53 | 6643676 TexasAggie
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I found this on another site:

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:38 | 6642299 RopeADope
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Because hours shoot people...

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:26 | 6642421 Billy the Poet
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Self defense against those killing time.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:48 | 6642313 Philo Beddoe
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Josh Earnest, has announced, “The president has frequently pushed his team to consider a range of executive actions that could more effectively keep guns out of the hands of criminals and others who shouldn’t have access to them. That’s something that is ongoing here.”

That’s something that is ongoing here.

I had to read that a few times to appreciate the stupidity of the comment. 

Mr. Earnest, are you trying to suggest criminals do not give a shit about gun laws? 

Very deep insights you have there. 

So, basically, all these new fucking laws and future laws/restrictions will not do JACK SHIT. Well, they will disarm the non-criminals I suppose. 

It will be like Mexico where all the criminals have illegal pistols and automatic weapons and the regular folk can not leave their homes with a lawn dart.  

 

 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:09 | 6642373 SILVERGEDDON
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Chicago - because Black Lives Matter. 

Way to go, O'blammie and Emmanuel - showed us how gun control works real good.  

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:17 | 6642396 juangrande
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I don't know or claim to know if gun control would drop gun violence. But if you only have to drive to Michigan ( or perhaps other parts of Illinois) to get what you need, what gun control is there really? ZH click bait? Worked on me, I guess.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:17 | 6642716 techpreist
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"Gun control would drop gun violence"

I see what you did there. Let's try reframing this claim to get to the real issue:

"Gun control would drop ALL violence"

Because being beaten to death with a hammer is so much better than getting shot right? The stats are *very* clear on this issue worldwide: no guns for citizens means it is much easier for criminals to commit violence of all types against the law abiding.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:52 | 6642963 James_Cole
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The stats are *very* clear on this issue worldwide: no guns for citizens means it is much easier for criminals to commit violence of all types against the law abiding.

Yep, the stats are actually *very* clear except the exact opposite of what you claim, details details!

http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Japan/United-States/Crime

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 01:43 | 6643092 rehypothecator
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Yes, the only difference between Japan and the US is gun laws. Everything else is so similar, it's not worth even mentioning! 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 02:11 | 6643106 James_Cole
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Can look at many countries, USA is the outlier. Find me a country which has had 290 mass shootings so far in 2015, you're going to scowering the dregs of the earth.

The tragedy with the US is less than half the country is total deadweight - you'll think its the liberals - which is great! Secede and y'all can have your whatever-the-fuck goes freedomland backwater shithole country surrounded by huge walls all to yourselves. Y'all talk about it all the time, just make it happen!

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 07:29 | 6643391 WOAR
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Most of those shootings are occurring in Chicago, which is a very large gun-free zone.

To prevent gun violence, you would have to ban all guns. Shortly after that, you would have to issue a straight jacket to each American, in order to prevent people from "bearing their ARMS."

The Bill of Rights in America outline your rights to be a criminal. The PTB haven't yet figured out how to arrest people BEFORE they commit crimes. Therefore, you can shoot anybody once before you become one.

Make that 1st degree murder count.

Pick someone important.

Hey, if everybody does this, then maybe the sleazebags at the top will think twice about their sleazebaggery!

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:54 | 6642837 Government need...
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If there's a large nigger population, there would be murders'n'mayhem with spears and arrows, if all the guns and knives were removed.  The problem starts and ends with niggers.  Not firearms.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:55 | 6642512 lincolnsteffens
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Gun violence will end when there are no guns left on earth. No guns in Chicago, go outside the city. No guns left in Ill, go to another state. No guns in USA go to another country. No guns left on earth, use a sling shot, bombs, catapult. knives, swords, crow bar, pipe, rock. Maybe we should have rock free zones.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:18 | 6642722 techpreist
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Don't forget banning cars by banning gasoline. With some gasoline and the right tools it's not hard to build a flamethrower.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:41 | 6642940 James_Cole
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It's also possible to kill someone with a pencil, don't remember the last massacre by pencil though?

It's almost like there's one specific weapon of choice used in these massacres..... if only US&A could figure out what that weapon was! Potatos? Could be deadly! Grandmas fruitcake? Possible! Plastic bags!? Damn! So many possible deadly weapons! I guess each is as equally likely to be used!

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 07:07 | 6643357 N2OJoe
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Wow, maybe you should go to one of these authoritarian utopia's where only the thugs in government and the thugs in street gangs have guns, and there is no violence because of it. May I suggest Venezuela?

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 07:38 | 6643403 jenniewadeguy
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Replace the word "gun" in your rant with the word "nigger".  It works.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:49 | 6642486 TeamDepends
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"That's something that is ongoing here." Because they are communists and they must disarm us before the genocide can begin.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:44 | 6642316 LetThemEatRand
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I just don't get why any thinking person believes 1) that more gun control will cause anything but disaster in a country that already has so many guns, and 2) that there isn't a valid reason for the 2nd amendment that involves more than hunting anyway.   I can understand a lot of debates, but not this one.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:06 | 6642368 Ms No
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Democide is a very valid reason.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:43 | 6642469 Pure Evil
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What a doofus LTER.

Other than shooting your mouth off, have you ever bothered to go to a shooting range to shoot any type of firearm?

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 07:34 | 6643396 WOAR
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How many murders are committed at shooting ranges?

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:40 | 6642631 James_Cole
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1) that more gun control will cause anything but disaster in a country that already has so many guns

US&A has just over double the guns of switzerland. This year (so far) US&A had 270 mass shootings. Switzerland hasn't had any.

2) that there isn't a valid reason for the 2nd amendment that involves more than hunting anyway.

The second amendment says a specific thing: WELL REGULATED

Some 11 year old kid shot his 8 year old neighbour dead the other day because she wouldn't let him play with her dog. Tennesse believes in FREEEDDDUMMMMMM so no locking up of weapons!

US&A is a total fucking outlier on this shit and it seems to be down to two things: bunch of fucking retarded paranoid losers (many of them on zh apparently) being strung along by a smartly run (pr) gun lobby with serious financial interests.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:22 | 6642890 r00t61
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The term "regulated" in the 1790s simply meant "well-trained."

Not "controlled by government legislation."

But thanks for playing.

You are just more proof that "liberalism" is nothing more than a mental disease.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:35 | 6642924 James_Cole
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The term "regulated" in the 1790s simply meant "well-trained."

Yes, the opposite of current standards in the us. 'well trained' SEE: switzerland.

'merica your well-trained militia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Elementary_School_shooting

Exceptionalism at its finest!

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 01:33 | 6643083 rehypothecator
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Sandy Hook was another Gun Free Zone.  Try again.  

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 01:36 | 6643085 cheech_wizard
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Your specious argument fall apart quite readily...

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/06/348197-obama-said-mass-shootings-dont-ha...

 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 02:04 | 6643101 James_Cole
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Every country on that list has less than 5 mass shootings, US&A? lol

US&A has just shy of 300...this year so far.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 07:36 | 6643397 DanDaley
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Take out the top-ten most violent cities in the US (ALL of which have been Democrat-run hell-holes for decades), then suddenly the US is one of the least violent countries on earth. It's the no-self-control, I-can-do-whatever-I-want socialist/statist society, that makes life hard for the rest of us.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:41 | 6642789 DanDaley
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The Bill of Rights is to preserve rights of individuals AGAINST the government. So it's not too hard to see why people should be armed, must be armed. It's only people who don't understand this basic principle of the Constitution who try to reduce the possession of guns to hunting. 

 

You can bank on one thing, and that is that Obama and eveyone who thinks like him is only interested in gun control so as to increase the power of the state over individuals. How else can a socialist paradise be gained but by gun control, eh?!

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:45 | 6642322 DriveByLurker
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Somebody is shot every 2.8 hours?  

 

Sucks to be that guy - you'd think he would move.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:47 | 6642327 LetThemEatRand
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Good one.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:55 | 6642345 Who was that ma...
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He can't move.  Everytime he tries, they shoot him again.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:38 | 6642461 Squid Viscous
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if he move, too much paper works to keep da free shit flowin'

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:16 | 6642565 A Nanny Moose
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suppose to tax it first. Then regulate it.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:29 | 6642429 Billy the Poet
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He's being held at gunpoint.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:47 | 6642481 o r c k
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Ah, shoot.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:55 | 6642514 Billy the Poet
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Well, that's the report.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:52 | 6642337 Stay Frosty
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Tune into Broadcastify.com and listen to the police scanner for Cook County, Illinois on any given weekend.  I cannot imagine living with my family in such a horrific nightmare.

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/606

 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:47 | 6642482 Pure Evil
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With the importation of Mexican's and Central American's we've also imported their drug cartels and drug gangs.

There's a battle for the streets by these cartels and gangs.

We might like to think only blacks are killing each other but hispanics are also killing each other as a result of the lucrative drug trade.

Cities like Shitcogo are turning into drug infested violent cities just like south of the border.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:53 | 6642339 WorkingPawn
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No problem - we can easily establish a "Gun Free America" - just follow the five easy steps in this video:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=125&v=bnoFKskvSq4

(Not my video - but actually worth watching...puts it all in a way that even my liberal friends can understand)

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:53 | 6642340 CHoward
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The libtards know precisely what the fuck they're doing.  They know their policies of a "Gun Free Zone" doesn't do shit but they have their asses covered.  Liberals are possesed by a horrible evil. 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 19:58 | 6642348 Skip
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The problem is not with guns, it is with our minority, soon to be majority, population.

Marvin Harris, one of the world's most noted anthropologists, wrote a book in 1980. This title was previously available as America Now: The Anthropology of a Changing Culture. New York: Simon & Schuster. The new title is Why Nothing Works: The Anthropology of Daily Life 1981.

In the chapter titled: Why There's Terror on the Streets, he demonstrates that American White men have violent crime rates LOWER than English in England and the Japanese in Japan. So why does America have such a high level of violent crime? Dr Harris puts it quite plainly: Blacks and Hispanics. That's the story. He also pointed out that the average gun owner is a middle-aged, middle class White guy.

Virginia Tech Massacre: Gun Control—Or Immigration Control? Peter Brimelow (Former Executive Editor Forbes magazine) April 18, 2007

The Oregon Shooting Immigrant Murder, Disgruntled Minority Massacre, Christophobia—Or Memory Hole Peter Brimelow (Former Executive Editor Forbes magazine) October 2, 2015

THEY want American Whites DISARMED so that THEY can do to Whites what they did to the Czar and his family and TWENTY MILLION White Russians according to Khrushchev. These are BOLSHEVIKS in power in the USSA.

I think it behooves each and every single one of us, AND OUR FAMILIES, to join the NRA.

http://www.nrahq.org/

Because the Bolsheviks are prepared to do their WORST and believe me, that is TOO TERRIBLE to contemplate.

Americans never give up your guns By Stanislav Mishin

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:09 | 6642372 taketheredpill
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Not sure if I've got your point, but I think it boils down to something like "they" aren't like us.  Right?

 

And just in case you are the Master Troll of myth and legend....I salute you.

 

 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:15 | 6642390 ToSoft4Truth
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Hey, join the NRA! 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:53 | 6642508 Pure Evil
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Either that or the GOA, Gun Owners of America.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:22 | 6642737 techpreist
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GOA is much better IMO.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:03 | 6642353 Wow72
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Illinois has to give their state lottery winners IOU's because they cant "handle" the gambling money, real nice bunch.  The odds are a 100% chance you lose.  Doesnt seem like they can manage much. The crooks dont want to chance YOU being able to fire on THEM.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:05 | 6642354 bluez
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So what? I don't live in Chicago.

The solution has nothing to do with preventing guns.

The solution is to try to get out of Chicago. They elected Rahm Israel Emanuel. What more do you need to know?

Look at this maniac:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rahm_Emanuel

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:10 | 6642695 willwork4food
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How can Rahm Israel Emanuel possibly go from: ...to become a the mayor of a major US city?

While working on the Clinton campaign Emanuel was a paid retainer of the investment bank Goldman Sachs.[26]

He was a leading strategist in White House efforts to institute NAFTA[30][31] and universal health care, among other Clinton initiatives.[32]

He and his brothers attended summer camp in Israel, including the summer following the June 1967 Six-Day War.[3][11]

In January 2003, Emanuel was named to the House Financial Services Committee and sat on the subcommittee that oversaw Freddie Mac. A few months later, Freddie Mac Chief Executive Officer Leland Brendsel was forced out and the committee and subcommittee commenced more than a year of hearings into Freddie Mac. Emanuel skipped every hearing allegedly for reasons of avoiding any appearance of favoritism, impropriety, or conflict of interest.[50]

In November 6, 2008, Emanuel accepted the position of White House Chief of Staff for US President Barack Obama.[65][66

Nice dual citizen scum right?

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:17 | 6642355 Ms No
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I am pretty sure that SSRIs are not responsible for the mass killings in Chicago so what is?  Well, we know that poverty and social degredation that the area has experienced are a factor but we also know that the LA drug and gang wave of the past was connected to the CIA.  In short the CIA has been connected to the mob, gangs, drugs and the Contras.  We can add ISIS to the list now too.  How can we be sure that they haven't added the degredation of Chicago as well?  

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:22 | 6642409 Ms No
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Oh come on downvoter, we are talking about ex CIA hack Barry's old stomping grounds here which has one of the most marked mob histories in the nation.  I really doubt that your average thug is on SSRIs.  This is Barry's territory, it is mob territory which means it is also CIA territory.  The links between the mob and the CIA are not new news.  By their fruits you shall know them. 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:03 | 6642357 Tarshatha
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More gun laws should fix that.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:06 | 6642364 taketheredpill
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Chicago, for all intents and purposes, is a “gun-free zone.”

 

 

While saying that “criminals go out-of-state to places where it is easier to obtain guns” is often used to push gun control, it illustrates that criminals ignore gun laws in every state and that onerous access to Second Amendment rights on law abiding citizens doesn’t stop crime.

 

 

But Criminals DO NOT ignore the gun laws in every state.  In this case they ignore the gun laws in Illinois and go out of state.  So Chicago cannot be a "gun free zone" if all someone has to do is buy a gun illegally from someone who purchased guns out of state. 

 

Not saying banning guns in the entire contry is the solution.  Just saying the argument presented makes no sense, i.e. if Chicago is a "gun free zone" then where are all the flying bullets coming from?

 

Whatever.

 

In Canada we have less mass shootings.  Not sure if it is because of our gun laws.  The "Conservatives" here are pushing hard to have Canada's gun laws move towards US versions, so maybe in a few decades we will have some hard data (dead civilians) to work with.

 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:34 | 6642447 shovelhead
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We have far fewer hockey stick homicides than Canada.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:35 | 6642451 Billy the Poet
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Not saying banning guns in the entire contry is the solution.  Just saying the argument presented makes no sense, i.e. if Chicago is a "gun free zone" then where are all the flying bullets coming from?

 

That's the point. Every "Gun Free Zone" sign you see is a lie. The very idea is ridiculous. And what would happen if they really create gun free zones? then they'd have to start working on knife free zones.

 

With Knife Murders Spiking After Gun Ban, UK Urges "Save A Life - Surrender Your Knife"

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-06-28/knife-murders-spiking-after-gun...

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:57 | 6642522 Pure Evil
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You also don't have Obomba you asshat.

Canada, US of A's asshat.

Can we send Obomba to run your country and see what happens next?

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:07 | 6642369 Lmo Mutton
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False flag intended to create new gun control laws?

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:14 | 6642384 azusgm
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No.

(Sub)cultural norms.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:11 | 6642375 RaceToTheBottom
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I think that Chicago has an education problem.

They need to provide more training on where to shoot those guns.

Don't those gun shooters know that Chicago has a Financial District?

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:12 | 6642380 azusgm
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Can't believe nobody has linked to the definitive website dedicated to our topic.

http://heyjackass.com/

No discussion of violent crime in Chicago is ever complete without a trip to that site.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:13 | 6642381 JamaicaJim
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Shoot. I'd fire back with something lethal, but lack the ammunistic prose.

As WarDaddy said, with a nod to Shitcago;

Good shootin kid...keep stackin em up"

 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:14 | 6642383 Chupacabra-322
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TALLAHASSEE — Floridians with concealed-handgun permits would be able to display their weapons openly, under a measure that cleared its first House committee Tuesday.

The measure was approved even as lawmakers in both parties and an influential business group expressed concerns about its potential impact on private-property rights.

The House Criminal Justice Subcommittee voted 8-4 to support the measure (HB 163), filed by Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fort Walton Beach, for the 2016 legislative session. It would allow people with concealed-weapons licenses to carry firearms openly, something the state has banned since establishing conceal-carry rules in 1987.

Gaetz described his proposal, one of a number of firearm-related bills before the Legislature, as allowing citizens to be "armed with their own liberty."

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:15 | 6642386 A_Gobshite
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Wow, criminals don't obey the law what a shocker! /s

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:18 | 6642398 ToSoft4Truth
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Cut school funding for starters.  Cheapen the food, more pink slime lunches!!!  Frankly, cut lunches out. 

Expand the private prison system.

And federalize the local po-po because the local government is broke due to broke citizens. 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:23 | 6642401 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Out of all the American states my favorite is Chicago. Home of the best damn drummer the world ever knew, and the best God damned drum manufacturer that ever was too. Gene Krupa & the Slingerland Drum Manufacturing Company are legendary in the world of percussion. Chicago is worth some respect IMHO. And no drummer in the entire world has ever topped Gene Krupa. Krupa was the best of the best that ever hit a skin.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:39 | 6642466 juangrande
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Drummer boy, Chicago is not a state. A state of mind, perhaps.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:52 | 6642499 yellowsub
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Or state of decay.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:13 | 6642557 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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best American city I meant. Frankly, I ahve only been to the USA for concerts. The Rolling Stones in Buffalo, Johnny Winter in Postdamn

New York State, and a no-name band in Syraquse<sp? I'm no geography dude because I can't afford to travel.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 11:50 | 6644518 Skiprrrdog
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It is a pretty excellent american city; i was born and raised there. They have always had a violence problem there, it is nothing new. Best junk food in the world, and an awesome music scene. I saw Johnny Winter there at a bar in the suburbs called B'Ginnings that was owned by Danny Seraphine, drummer of the band Chicago. I picked up a Ludwig drumset at their old factory on Damen Ave with my brother in-law, and they gave us a tour of the entire factory, like we were a couple of rock stars, Ill never forget that, they were very cool.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 16:01 | 6645976 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Thank you for chiming up about Chicago. Finally, something positive amidst all the downgrading of Chicago around here. I happen to like Chicago, and I fully agree that it is a great city. Johnny Winter in Chicago must have been a pretty good gig to catch. The Ludwig factory would be excellent IMHO. I'm a Slingerland guy, but I have had Ludwigs' in the past. I have a vintage Leedy floor tom, and as you know, they amalgamated with Ludwig in the 40s to form Leedy Ludwig Drum Corp until it went back to just Ludwig again. cheers

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:43 | 6642470 shovelhead
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How was he with a gun?

 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:17 | 6642718 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Don't know, but he smoked reefers so we can figure he would have been good.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:21 | 6642404 ToSoft4Truth
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Here’s how it goes in my area.

Woman With Concealed-Carry License Shoots at Home Depot Shoplifters, May Not Face Charges

A woman with a gun and a concealed-carry license opened fire on a shoplifter Tuesday afternoon as security chased the man out of an Auburn Hills, Mich. Home Depot, the Detroit Free Press reports. No one appeared to be injured, and the shooter is cooperating with police.

 

http://gawker.com/woman-with-concealed-carry-license-shoots-at-home-depo...

 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:23 | 6642414 Sleepless Knight
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I am so glad someone made this connection. Now it has to be broadcast everywhere and questions need to be asked to the assholes in Washington. I would love to hear the excuses of why gun free zones will solve the problem.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:34 | 6642448 wisebastard
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if the average family has 2.3 kids, and they are getting popped out at the same rate per hour Chi Town is gonna take itself out in no time

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:36 | 6642454 TheAntiProgressive
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Chicago, Chicago, Bang, Bang.....

I lived down in Calumet City and used to make sales calls in South Chicago.  Always feared going on those calls, the whole south side is popoulated by crickets and is very, very sketchy.  The "projects" were a monument to liberal, progressive ideology and probably they tore them down now to convince the residents to "own" their own homes.  Que up the NINJA loans.  I always wondered why.... and that was my come to Jesus moment on the housing bubble.  Why?.....  did this happen?  The government, HUD and the like realizying the "projects were a total failure" ingeniously engaged the private sector to take over the housing HUD and the like had provided in the past.  Of course HUDs budget never went down and the American taxpayer then got the bill for the "new" progressive solution to "low income housing".

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:39 | 6642465 crazybob369
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By the way, would tighter gun laws prevent the feds from giving away guns to drug dealers (fast & furious)?

 

Just curious.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:55 | 6642484 shovelhead
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Merely a tribal ritual by the city's vibrant population.

I wish them great success in their endeavors.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:48 | 6642485 yellowsub
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Laws are meant to keep those fearful of prison in line.  To the rest like your criminals, illegals, public officials and servants; they are just suggestions and dont' apply to them when they break them.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:54 | 6642504 SSRI Junkie
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the media can't cover this...it would be like diarrhea...to much liquid feces, not enough solid gun control feces 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 20:55 | 6642516 SgtShaftoe
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They can't and know they can't. I'm not even sure why they're trying. If they actually enforced a gun ban, this country would be full of more insurgents than Afghanistan, and that's just in one tiny county in Montana. Nation-wide would be suicide.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:38 | 6642623 Ms No
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Probably so and we know that the spooks have "accidentally" armed the Latino cartels in addition to "accidentally" arming ISIS.  In reality the CIA has made a long term profession of effing up Mexico, Central and South America in general. 

The CIA wanted Mexico to be a failed narco state and it looks like they wouldn't mind seeing the US fall to this mob rule as well.  Funny that the US is always so concerned about the destabilization of ME countries yet they have openly allowed, at the very least, the destabilization of Mexico.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:05 | 6642535 SgtShaftoe
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Funny, My guns have never jumped out of their storage locations to kill anyone. Maybe they're broken.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:07 | 6642543 Silver Bullet
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You fuckin losers realize that gun control in a city is not actually a force field protecting the city when EVERYWHERE surrounding it you could trip and fall over all the guns that exist, and then just walk across the non-existent border checks protecting the city? Of course you don't. Youre fucking dumb as fucking shit. Period.

EVERY OTHER place where it is hard to obtain a gun has much less gun violence. FACT. INDISPUTABLE. 

My fucking retarded friends on the right are actually right when they say gun control doesn't work....

Gun ELIMINATION does. 

Seriously, losers, keep thinking climate change is a hoax, more guns make you safer, and that cutting Zuckerberg and Trump's taxes will trickle down...

It's almost unimaginable given the empiracle evidence that exists on the above points, but then again, you losers cling to your guns and religion so patheitcally that any worthwhile fact is completely unable to permeate your white trash skull. 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:18 | 6642568 skinwalker
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Mexico and Russia make it very difficult for joe blow to possess a firearm, yet have much higher murder rates than the us. Can you explain that, or are you just a fool? 

 

And global warming? really? How old are you? Keep beating off to captain planet reruns and let the adults talk, mmk? 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:43 | 6642643 Silver Bullet
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Areyou fucking kidding me? You think it's hard to get a gun in Mexico or Russia?

And I was mainly referring to rich coutnries,  not middle income quasi dictatorships...but I digress. 

And you're quip about climate change and adults....haha haha

Anecdotal, yes, but a guy I work with in Oakland got shot a couple of days ago in front of his apt over nothing. 

In Sweden, the air is clean, they have a middle class, and the odds of you getting shot are vitally zerrrroooo. 

Again, keep thinking that ADDING guns to this situation makes you safer, when EVERY OTHER 1st world country has the EXACT opposite situation. 

America is like the Twilight zone. 

Seriously, just go fucking vote for Trump. 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:40 | 6642790 Buster Cherry
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In Sweden, your daughter is likely to get raped by a muslim troglodite.

You'll wish you had a gun then....

ww.bestgore.com › murder › rape-mur...

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:21 | 6642578 Buster Cherry
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Maybe if some feral nigger blew your head off........you might change your mind...

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:13 | 6642989 SSRI Junkie
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in agreement...just...if he shot you in the head, it's to late too change your mind

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:45 | 6642647 Ms No
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"EVERY OTHER place where it is hard to obtain a gun has much less gun violence. FACT. INDISPUTABLE" 

WRONG!

I am not going to elaborate on that because not only does everyone here know otherwise but I have been through this with you before and you will just degenerate into name calling.  I can see you still have not looked into the numbers on democide.  It must be nice being able to see the world in black and white, red team vs. blue team.    

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:50 | 6642657 Silver Bullet
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Name.one.rich.country....

 

JUST ONE DIPSHIT. 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:06 | 6642684 Ms No
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Must you continue to use the phrase "rich country"?   This term is annoying for numerous reasons.  Firstly, as I said before, nobody knows where "rich country" be at.  Secondly, your country isn't "rich country" anymore, it may be more accurately referred to in your language as broke country.

Name one country: Norway.  This information will not matter to you because you are a dogamist every bit as much as a Rush Limbaugh fan. 

Now tell your president to stop murdering innocent Syrians.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:15 | 6642715 Ms No
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This may also be a good read for you.

"Now, a Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy study shows that this is not just an American phenomenon.  According to the study, worldwide gun ownership rates do not correlate with higher murder or suicide rates.  In fact, many nations with high gun ownership have significantly lower murder and suicide rates."

http://www.cfif.org/htdocs/freedomline/current/in_our_opinion/Gun-Ownership.htm 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 08:20 | 6643497 Peterus
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It's not about money, but about culture. In USA when power is out people go out on looting on the streets. This is the kind of culture that would fit somewhere between Ghana and Russia. With large number os of humans of such low quality - no wonder they're killing each other at high rates. Banning guns as in Australia will just shift those deaths from guns to knifes, burning, throwing of buildings etc. Sure, it will be less efficient for perp, but victim will be even more helpless. Won't make rates budge (as in Australia - continuing the same trend is not a sharp decline that was advertised).

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:52 | 6642662 flyingcaveman
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Areas with more diversity are more violent.  So which is it do you want more diversity or less diversity?

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 22:25 | 6642742 TheRideNeverEnds
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You are correct, gun control works very well when properly implemented.  One simple needs to view history, it is replete with examples.  Some emphatic proponents of gun control include big names like Mao Ze Dong, Augusto Pinochet, Jozef Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot, Kim Il-Sung.  Yea sure they then went on to kill a few hundred million of their own people but whatever, at least there were no school shootings right?  I think it worked out in the end, certain people were allowed to have guns and certain people were allowed to live, we should trust our government to make such important choices for us.  They know whats best.  

 

Just remember, when they show up at your house with the truck don't argue; just get in the fucking truck.  Its for your own good....

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 00:20 | 6643009 SSRI Junkie
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"when they show up at your house with the truck don't argue"

 

you know it's funny how history keeps repeating itself....not that i'm saying it will again

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 07:44 | 6643415 WOAR
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I think it's ironic your name is Silver Bullet.

You're not going to be very effective without a gun, friend.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 11:20 | 6644378 Skiprrrdog
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Learn a new word today, *loser*?

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:15 | 6642564 loregnum
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I am surprised that controlling or banning things doesn't work. I mean prohibition and the "war on drugs" has clearly shown this just can't be true along with many other things they have tried to control or ban.

Humans are so fucking dumb.

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 21:50 | 6642658 pine_marten
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They need to intensify the "Black Lives Matter" campaign there. 

Wed, 10/07/2015 - 23:09 | 6642870 MrBoompi
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It seems there are enough guns in Chicago to be involved in plenty of murders.  I'm wondering if the author thinks more guns on the street will result in reduced shooting deaths?  Aren't the gangs armed enough already? 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 03:50 | 6643192 10mm
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Because the police have two fuctions. Write reports after serious incidents and outline body with chalk. BTW, where's the mommy been hiding of the imbalanced son at? The mommy who knew her son was a mental case and shared living quarters. 

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 09:13 | 6643730 dizzyfingers
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10mm

Back in the day... there were asylums where troubled people could go so that they were safe from the outside world and the outside world was safe from them, and they and could receive services.

Relatives of those in asylums weren't left to deal with problems that usually are too big for untrained people.

But then the civil rights movement got started.

Suddenly people with mental problems had civil rights!

The the civil-righters eventually got the asylums closed. All gone. So were the services they had provided.

Municipalities quickly understood that those tax dollars could be used for other things.

Promises were made that mental-health assistance would be arranged for in some other way... ha ha.

And here we are with families devoid of the professional resources to deal with their kids or other relatives who are dangerous and not being treated for their disorders, and courts sending home people so troubled and some so dangerous that they kill their families...or other people.

Where is the common sense that used to exist in this country?

Cloward-Piven...worked so well for the left, but not for their victims.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 04:35 | 6643225 Keyboard Kommando
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#BlackLivesSplatter

 

The USA doesn't have a gun or violence problem, it has a NIGGER problem!

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 06:22 | 6643295 mr coffee
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I just read the US government is talking to Toyota about its high use by extremist groups like IS.

Maybe, and this is just a thought, they could start by asking how they are funded and where they get their guns from!

Or is that too effing obvious.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 11:56 | 6644562 Skiprrrdog
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Easy...free guns with every Tacoma purchase...

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 07:53 | 6643428 MasterControl
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Not enough.  I'd like to see something like 20 shot per hour.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 08:25 | 6643524 dizzyfingers
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http://www.rense.com/general65/armed.htm IL has concealed carry. CHI has home rule.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 12:03 | 6644555 Skiprrrdog
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I think they should pass laws that REQUIRE people to carry guns, because a well armed society is a polite society. If you outlaw guns, eventually the only people that will have them will be the poilce (and outlaws), who represent more or less the largest gangs in this country. Lets face it, if you wanted to control guns, the time to have done that was like a couple of hundred years ago...

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 12:38 | 6644769 Winston Smith 2009
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Gun grabbers are as idiotic as Keynesians - if somethign doesn't work, it must be because they're not doing enough of it no matter what common sense and the data actually tells them.

Thu, 10/08/2015 - 12:39 | 6644774 mechanized
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Having a local gun-free zone in the united states is like using an umbrella in a hurricane.  OF COURSE it'll be pointless.  Citing the murder rate in chicago as proof positive that gun control doesn't work is disingeneous at best, and is nothing more than simple confirmation bias.  All those laws do is allow LEOs to confiscate weapons in the applicable area.  Unless there's nationwide laws of a similar fashion the local version will do absolutely nothing to control the murder rate, as one can easily see.  Just simply visit the next state to tool up.

But hey, don't bother talking about the abject poverty in these cities, because obviously we know that has NOTHING to do with crime, right?

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