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NATO Threatens To Send In Troops After Russia Stations Ground "Battalion" In Syria
As the propaganda “war” between East and West intensifies ahead of what might ultimately transform into an actual war in the skies above Syria, the world is transfixed with the scope of Russia’s week-old military campaign in support of the Assad regime.
Thanks to the fact that the West selected Islamic militants as its anti-Assad weapon of choice, Putin gets to pitch the entire effort as a “war on terror” which means The Kremlin effectively has a license to brag and sure enough, slickly-produced ISIS videos of beheadings have now been definitively replaced by slickly-produced videos of Russian warships launching cruise missiles at terrorist targets.
In short, Moscow is on a roll both militarily (of course that’s not difficult when you’re a superpower playing against a couple of JV militias) and perceptually, which makes it possible to continually ratchet up the pressure on anti-regime forces as the global applause only seems to grow with each incremental escalation much to chagrin of both the Pentagon and Washington’s Mid-East allies and as we said earlier this week, "a very likely course of events is that despite Russia's denials, the Pentagon will use the gambit of a Russian ground campaign, credible or not, to get permission from Congress to send a 'small', at first, then bigger ground force of US troops in Syria to, you guessed it, 'fight ISIS', but really to do everything to prevent Russian troops from taking over key strategic positions."
On Thursday we get the latest set of headlines from Syria, starting with NATO asserting that Russia has a ground battalion at the ready supported by tanks. Here’s Reuters:
Russia's military build-up in Syria includes a "considerable and growing" naval presence, long-range rockets and a battalion of ground troops backed by Moscow's most modern tanks, the U.S. ambassador to NATO said on Wednesday.
Speaking on the eve of a NATO defense ministers meeting to be dominated by Russia's intervention in Syria's civil war, U.S. Ambassador to NATO Douglas Lute said Moscow had managed a "quite impressive" military deployment over the past week to its Syria naval base in Tartous and its army base in Latakia.
"There is a considerable and growing Russia naval presence in the eastern Mediterranean, more than 10 ships now, which is a bit out of the ordinary," he told a news briefing.
"The recent Russian reinforcements over the last week or so feature a battalion-size ground force ... There is artillery, there are long-range rocket capabilities, there are air defense capabilities," Lute said.
A battalion is typically around 1,000 soldiers.
Western officials say that in strategic terms, Russia's new air strike campaign in Syria appears designed to help reverse rebel gains increasingly endangering Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, protect Russian military assets in the country including its sole Mediterranean port, and reassert Moscow’s place as a big international power competing with the United States.
"The force that they have deployed down there is actually quite impressive for a rapid deployment of a week or so," Lute said. "(It is) all arms, combined arms, attack aircraft, it is the attack helicopters and artillery, rocket artillery."
And that means NATO needs to indicate that it too is willing to deploy troops via Turkey, where Ankara will simply acquiesce to anything the West wants to do as long as Washington turns a blind eye to Erdogan’s “war” with the PKK which is far more important domestically than any conflict with ISIS or Russia because Erdogan is effectively fighting to secure the “right” to change the country’s constitution and thereby consolidate his power. Here’s Reuters again:
NATO said it was prepared to send troops to Turkey to defend its ally after violations of Turkish airspace by Russian jets bombing Syria and Britain scolded Moscow for escalating a civil war that has already killed 250,000 people.
Officials at the U.S.-led alliance are still smarting from Russia's weekend incursions into Turkey's airspace near northern Syria and NATO defense ministers are meeting in Brussels with the agenda likely to be dominated by the Syria crisis.
"NATO is ready and able to defend all allies, including Turkey against any threats," NATO's Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg told reporters as he arrived for the meeting.
"NATO has already responded by increasing our capacity, our ability, our preparedness to deploy forces including to the south, including in Turkey," he said, noting that Russia's air and cruise missile strikes were "reasons for concern".
As Russian and U.S. planes fly combat missions over the same country for the first time since World War Two, NATO is eager to avoid any international escalation of the Syrian conflict that has unexpectedly turned the alliance's attention away from Ukraine following Russia's annexation of Crimea last year.
The incursions of two Russian fighters in Turkish airspace on Saturday and Sunday has brought the Syria conflict right up to NATO's borders, testing the alliance's ability to deter a newly assertive Russia without seeking direct confrontation.
This, of course, is nothing more than an attempt to create an excuse to counter the Russians. The Russian warplanes that allegedly crossed into Turkey’s airspace obviously were not intending to bomb Ankara, so the only reason the West continues to focus on the story is to build a narrative that justifies sending ground troops in via Turkey.
Meanwhile, the Iran-sponsored ground cleanup crew is apparently on the move and advancing quickly:
Syrian troops and allied militia backed by Russian air strikes and cruise missiles fired from warships attacked rebels forces on Thursday as the government extended a major offensive to recapture territory in the west of the country.
Rebel advances in western Syria earlier this year had threatened the coastal region vital to President Bashar al-Assad's control of the area and prompted Russia's intervention on his side last week.
In a further show of force, the Russian defense ministry said missiles fired from its ships in the Caspian Sea hit weapons factories, arms dumps, command centers and training camps supporting Islamic State forces.
Ground forces loyal to the government targeted insurgents in the Ghab Plain area of western Syria, with heavy barrages of surface-to-surface missiles as Russian warplanes bombed from above, according to the British-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights and a rebel fighting there.
It said rebels had shot down a helicopter in Hama province in western Syria. It was unclear if it was Syrian or Russian.
Syria said a major military operation was under way.
Yes, "ground forces loyal to the government" or, stripping away the facade, "Shiite ground forces loyal to Tehran" who, once the campaign in Syria is over, will cross right back into Iraq and continue the fight against Sunni extremists only now they'll be backed not only by the IRGC, but by the Russian army, and on that note, we close with the following from AFP:
Russian President Vladimir Putin's bullish entry into the Syrian conflict has worked wonders for his popularity in neighbouring Iraq, where some await "Hajji Putin" like a saviour.
Sitting at his easel in his central Baghdad workshop, painter Mohammed Karim Nihaya touches up a portrait of Putin he copied from the Internet.
"I have been waiting for Russia to get involved in the fight against Daesh," he says, referring to the Islamic State group that last year declared a "caliphate" straddling Iraq and Syria.
"They get results. The United States and its allies on the other hand have been bombing for a year and achieved nothing," the bespectacled artist says.

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that, should it be necessary, they be extensive and painful.
maybe you skipped the Russia's endeavor in Afghanistan...
That was Russia's first real taste of a CIA trained, Saudi funded militia. They've since battled much closer to home in Chechnya and come out victorious.
The USSR was also an international pariah in the 80s - even the Chinese disliked them. Things are, not so similar today.
The Afghan fighters in the 80's (and now!) were the "home team" who inevitably win guerrilla wars. Al-Ciada are actually the invader in Syria and Iraq.
If the Arab population wanted to be segregated into dozens of gaza strips, they could've done it to themselves anytime in the last 1000+ years. They didn't. Someone else is trying to force it on them. I doubt Al-Ciada will be occupying significant amounts of Syrian territory for very long.
You are more right then you know....
Basically Balkanization for the middle east...or "Divide and Rule" if you will...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/plans-for-redrawing-the-middle-east-the-pro...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule
Nonsense! They're not inhuman.
Do you think that Russian mothers care less about their sons than do American mothers?
They vote there too now, you know.
Nobody wants troop blood on their political hands.
Except Blair/Bush
oops forgot Nuland and the rest of the NeoCons
the russian mothers really do care and i doubt putin will waste a drop.
the neocons however regard u.s. blood as a necessary utility, like clean water.
israeli blood on the other hand . . . .
Well, history does not recount a humanistic, tolerant, respect for life timeline as long as Russia's. These guys understand and employ mass murder.
But then I am presuming most ZH folks have studied history.
for every u.s. citizen that died defeating the axis powers in ww2, fifty citizens of the ussr died. 27,000,000 of them, military and civilian. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties
that's some mass murder we can all understand.
and speaking of mass murder, the indians and the african slaves would probably tell a tale as chilling as any from stalin's era, would they could speak.
Before you make a silly statement like this.
The Russian people are pissed. They are sick of the US starting these bullshit proxy wars on their borders with terrorists. They have had it with the US not respecting ANYONES national soverienty and right to chose how they want to live. They are not stupid people who do not know they are being targeted.
Putin has an 86% approval for his actions in Syria by the Russian people
Of the other 14%, 11% only disagree with it because they feel Putin is not doing enough.
Thats 97% of the People have had enough of US exceptionalism.
Now tell me again how many in the US. approve of our actions? These are the kinds of numbers OBUMMER only dreams about.
Washington and their lapdog Nato might ought to think about this for just a minute.
Sick and tired is an understatement!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iu9URT0JjkU&index=9&list=FLhxqwnacwtI22N...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTx4Kglgv78
Ironically someone has a little boy there with a jacket that has RUSSIA written on the front in huge letters... Using the Latin alphabet.
"Thats 97% of the People have had enough of US exceptionalism."
Actually it is 97% of the people have had enough of progressive usurper criminals infesting US government.
Restore the American constitutional republic and you automatically restore respect for sovereign nations regardless of how nasty they are.
Progressives own and run this criminal shit show. Neocons cheer from the sidelines.
Don't forget, the progressive stupid, it burns.
Grimaldus
Call these "Progressives" what they are: REDS. The same genocidal freaks that show up whenever a state leans too far towards centralization.
Reds, managing affairs on behalf of Chosenites. What a fucking hell hole.
they are no more "reds" than is the man in the moon. they are freaking allied with the forces of financial capital, the great international banks. go dig up karl marx and ask him if they are likely allies of communists (that they were of the early soviet union means nothing; they want money wherever found). they are zionists, like bush, cheney and rumsfeld. communism doesn't figure in this at all.
none of these people are progressive or even conservative. they are zionist fascists pure and simple.
We got drunk off of our 'victory' in World War II and started to double down on believing our own horseshit.
Now, we are a rotted out diseased body with cancers and stds raging through the little ecto-pumped blood that remains.
We have no culture whatsoever but for a bizarre combo of usurious scam after usurious scam coupled with demonic level firepower in orbit and in weird bio-chem pods.
When I saw the mass embrace of the mental patient Bruce Jenner, I knew that not only had we gone full retard and jumped the shark three times, that in fact there is no way to even salvage the political entity known as the United States. If it were just a matter of a foreign clique that majorly took over things like the MIC, banks, and Pentagram one could see a means of eventually replacing said usurping leadership. But when true general populace is a pill popping obese diabetic mess that laps up tranny-ism and Drano blinding, what in the world can you possibly do with said lot?
Best case scenario is that after this train wreck finally explodes in midair, we see packs of men who have yet to physically or psychologically held themselves take over snippets and snappers and effect some sort of integrated order that values real production and real culture.
EVERYBODY needs to watch this man....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qac0uUW0sbw
Then, why do the political psychopaths send so many to their deaths if they are scared of returning body bags? They could not give a rat's ass.
they're not scared of bodybags, just them being shown nightly on the TV news broadcasts, thats why there where banned in iraqi war
Last I knew, Russia has a two year millitary policy when you come of age.
When did Syria join the NATO?
Boy huffing paint or glue.
USA is not far from this today, not far from WW III, and we know all our Institutions have been taken over by some conspiracy.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jennifer+briney+congression...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWLmhH8sQIs
Who's blowtorching American jobs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfTfsWhZi5E
The first episode of BestEvidence goes to the root of what’s happening to American jobs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwbqWWglElg
http://www.craigbhulet.com/
Apparently NATO hired former AT&T employees that like to sign people up for service without their consent.
A British battalion is now 800 men to sprwad the numbers out more thinly. Anyway 1000 Russian soldiers should be able to do what US Special Forces haven't managed to achieve in either Iraq or Syria. Still NATO occupation of Turkey should give Erdogan's forces some backbone......they got a bloody nose when their Special Forces invaded Iraq some years back as Kurds cut them up as I learned from a survivor in Turkey
Just what can be 'special' in a force of 60,000 special forces ? Almost an oxymoron.
In any other army they would be called grunts.
Everybody gets a prize, and a nice isignia.
I've heard stories of what happens when US special forces attempt the Brecon Beacons
course in Wales.The results aren't pretty, or so I'm told..
Lots of wannabe Rambo's need to be rescued.
Where are the grown-ups? Maybe they should just move this upcoming war to downtown Brussels and then spread out from their.
Or make it a cage matche between the troika and a few Russian bears.
Putin doing the Fonz? ROFLMAO Is everything scripted as "made for media?"
these clowns would yell their praises of Putin from the rooftops if they weren't busy gargling his balls...
You why this post? Think that everyone else shares your sexual deviation?
why you not catch squirrel and moose yet? you this post but not catch them, you are lazy? Ivan has mouthwash for you, good boy...
Hamster, stop fuck in the ass and not have such hallucinations.
pre turtle smasher, why are you and many others so opposed to Russia's competent killing off of thieves, lowlives, thugs, murderers and the occasional religious fundamentalist / freedom fighter / headchopping ghoul? I know the MSM groupthink peer pressure is tough, but it shouldn't be that tough where you can no longer tell right from wrong?
Oh if only Barry had such balls to kill these fucks instead of pimping for them instead. You could be gargling Barry's balls too, but his balls are in the rough - - - far, far away from the fairway.
He caught a double dose of exceptionalsi as a child, it stunted his development,
No point arguing with him, I've tried before.
You won't get an answer other than, "Putin is evil".
You wrong.
"Putin hyilo" is the alternative answer from that scared bitches.
The really scary part is that NATO leaders actually think Russia is going to invade Turkey (along with thinking Russia is going to invade Ukraine, Poland, the Baltic States, Afghanistan, and Santa's workshop at the North Pole)
Script boy! ... someone get me a script!
You forgot Mexico....
Mexico belongs to Texas and those who would challenge this fact had best be warned.
Yep and the Souix own MN, good luck with the repossession..
NATO is posturing - the Baltic States have no air force so NATO flies to show the flag. Turkey needs troops to wage civil war against Kurdish political parties internally and wants a few NATO soldiers to hold hands and show the Russians Erdogan's plan to flood Europe with refugees is working.
Now Slovakia wants to join the UK in leaving the EU it cannot be long before Bavaria seeks to secede from Germany as in 1923. If Hitler invaded neighbouring states to settle Germans, Merkel is imperiously settling foreigners in Germany.
Funny enough the North Pole part is kinda true.
Even funnier its the Rockefeller Skanks company
running the whole deal.
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/08/11/3469764/exxonmobil-russia-ar...
Wow!!!!...
New "trading cards"...
Except this time it won't be pictures of innocent men, women and children being raped, tortured and murdered by U.S. soldiers with their "thumbs up"!... Can't wait for your deaths because it means you'll be a "permanent" part of that unseen unemployed statistic of 94 million and counting that we won't have to pay for anymore.
To the U.S. Army Navy and Marine Corps.
I'll be saying a prayer for all of you and your new lives living in Hell!!!
94.2 million, it has been about 20 minutes since you posted the 94.
Farqued
It's poetic justice!... You would have to me completely out of your mind with traumatic brain injury to want to sign up for this detail in the U.S. military given where we've been these last 14 years. It begs the question... Where the fuck is their pocket version of the UCMJ and a written creed for insubordination and mutiny after everything they've already done?!!!
I look at it like a necessary "cleansing" only it's non-denominational and does not discriminate against race or creed as long as it bears a standard U.S. military uniform with an American flag patch on it!
Like I've said here many times before "dog tags" are optional at this point and I think the boyz and girlz that will be a part of this one know already that the "last will and testament" will be an important feature of this particular tour along with the body bag!
Putin - 2016
N. orth
A. merican
T. errorist
O. rganization
The real fear by NATO and Obama is that Russia will spread its anti-gay policies across the globe!
Will it be long before Syria asks/tells all non-russian airplanes to leave its' airspace? It is not as it they have proved of any use over the last year or so.
On what grounds might NATO/US refuse?
On what grounds might NATO/US refuse?
On moral high grounds of course. Hahahaha, just had to see if it was as funny to type as it was echoing in my head.
For that matter, what about ground forces?
NATO doesn't have a leg to stand on. If this does go hot with regular forces they'd better prey they "win". History is being made now and it will not be kind to them.
The empire is standing by firepower alone now. The fact that it is already over has not occurred to those in power.
Won't be long now.
On same grounds they fly there in the first place - Assand cannot stop them.
Well Assad can't stop them with Syrian weapons, but Mr. Putin loaned them some Russian weapons.
That changed things in a major way, but until Russia and China is in place they opted not to
fire on NATO aircraft.
The choice to not fire on NATO/Israeli Aircraft may change soon.
The S400 is no joke.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-400_%28missile%29
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=679_1371599777
So if NATO invades Syria (openly that is) are Assad and Putin allowed to shoot at them ?
I my vision they are.
The sovereign state of Syrian Arab Republic never invited "NATO coalition" to bomb its territory.
United Nations General Assembly definition of aggression:
"Aggression is the use of armed force by a State against the sovereignty, territorial integrity or political independence of another State, or in any other manner inconsistent with the Charter of the United Nations, as set out in this Definition...
(g) The sending by or on behalf of a State of armed bands, groups, irregulars or mercenaries, which carry out acts of armed force against another State of such gravity as to amount to the acts listed above, or its substantial involvement therein....
A war of aggression is a crime against international peace. "
https://www1.umn.edu/humanrts/instree/GAres3314.html
Syria will be over before Zato can show up. As that winds down,
Russia will be in Iraq. Actually, they already are. I read that the Russia, Iraq, Iran Hq is in Baghdad. Momentum may bring the fight to KSA doorstep.
KSA is bank rolling the head choppers. It did admit to controlling the Chechen insurgents.
Confirmation today that the gear supporting this INTEL cell is now in position was PRed today.
Obama will bend over backwards to help with the insertion.
NATO is a barking dog
But the people in western countries do not want NATO to do this shit.... so they must be stopped... citizens should attack their own NATO
The stupid trust in kings and governments. Greater fools trust in aggregates of governments.
All have agreed to sabre rattling to get oil back up over $50. Might even sacrifice a pilot or some ground troops to do it.
I wish some of you brighter ZHers would project what effect this escalation in Syria and others will have on the flood of ME immigrants into Free Shit Europe. That will tell the tale of the mood of the Europeans, i.e., whether they will buy the NATO propaganda or cheer Putin on.
As Hackman told Smith in the movie, "you are either incredibly smart or incredibly stupid". There are always unintended consequences for the gentried class that gets us in this shit constantly. If it's in the PLAN, is it working? Can it work?
some around are incredibly smart and therefore cheer Putin on ....
Farqued Up
Escalation how? All that are leaving Syria, have left and are in camps in Turkey or Lebanon etc. If Russia takes out Assad's enemy (ISIS included) then Syria will settle down, people will float back.
The problem may end up being what happens when Russia helps in Iraq, will a flood of Iraqis head our way? If they do, I think the Syrian refugee crisis will have altered our European psyche and our "leaders" will face stiff opposition to Europe being used as a Camp of the Saints.
At least we in the UK are sheltered from most of this directly. The ecomonic consequences, however, are far more risky.
Better flood the Chunnel.
whether they will buy the NATO propaganda?...no, they will NOT buy any NATO propaganda anymore. Most EU citizens were opposed any war with Russia even before Syria! For example 75% Germans said the West should not be arming Ukraine. Now, most Europeans, as a minimum, see that ISIS and terrorists in general are the work of USA. This is the atmosphere, in which the USA wants to go to war with Russia???
Remember that most Europeans quickly surrendered even to Hitler's Germany. And those were old Europeans, much tougher than the modern ones. And you think they would EVER go to fight Russia??? Even those here, who hate Russians, are SCARED of them as hell. And after this nice powerful show in Syria, I think many Americans will see that too. Russians are poor and backward? They don't produce anything but oil? Obviously space rockets and all kinds of modern warfare are just nothing. How many European cities could be flattened by those warship missiles? Do you think people are not starting to ask those questions? And this is exactly, why Putin has put on such a show.
The USA has made a huge mistake. And this is not about stupid pipelines in Syria. This is about that ISIS batallion stationed now in Eastern Ukraine. This is about Ukrainian Nazis starting to cooperate with ISIS and other islamic radicals. Rather than fight those mercenaries in Ukraine, or even in Russia, Putin has taken this fight to them. Better to fight all this scum (including NATO) in Syria, then too close to home. I remember, how Russians kept repeating that Stalin should not have waited for Hitler (paid by the West) to attack Russia, that he should have "taken the war" to them. Well, that is exactly, what Putin is now doing. Don't poke the Bear!
You get it. This is not about pipelines or the notion of water. This is about 30 years of Afgan.Georgia, Chechnya, Ukraine western instigated wars with supported terrorist and destabilisation. Not respecting International laws or soverienty of nations. Some of these same terrorist scumbags will go back to places within the Russian federation itself and start it up all over again and again.The West acts like it can just go around the globe and pick and choose all counties leaders no matter if the country voted its own leadership or was fine with the one they had.
And since you bring up Hitler. The ultimate in irony. He was always blabbering about a master race of the blue eyed blond haired master race as the ultimate warriors. The historic roots of these master warriors was the Norseman and Viking peoples who had came from northern nations kicking butt and spread out.
I always had a question for that stupid SOB adolpus. If these are the master race and the ultimate fighter warriors, then why in the heck did you decide to attack the Russians. Just who in the hell did he think the people in the north of Russia came from and who they are. Yes those same bad-ass Axe Swingers you were talking shit about being the master race you dumb fuck. And you got your ass handed to you.
At the end of the day, after you get tired of flying your pretty little jets around, it takes ground troops. I don't think the Russian ground forces have anything left to prove to the world at this point in history and this goes all the way back to the Mongol Hordes. Get ya sum.
Yes keep poking the Bear with a stick. Great Idea! Then act suprised when the bear rips half your faces off your panty waist gay brigades with a freaking chopping axe.
p.s. My apology to any Russian readers, as I realize your ethnicity is more complicated than this with 12 time zones, with Slav, Mongols, Tatars, Scythian ect.
Northmen, Nordic, Viking
came the Volga and built
Kiev Rus
best of that stock in Russia today the strongest made Russia
and much German also, some areas more real German blood than Germany average today
OT. Im an 1/4 German myself.
Hitler was a NWO puppet as well and that is exactly, why he destroyed Germany. His connections to Rotschilds are known. He was not even a real leader, just an actor! There are documentaries, where you see, how experts were teaching him how to speak to crowds. You can ask some present-day Russian philosophers and historians, they are talking about this often in Russia. Stalin was a bloody tyrant, but he (much like e.g. Saddam Hussein) broke his leash to NWO and threw out or killed many communist Jews (like Trotsky), who were there to bring Russia under NWO. It was Trotsky and the like with their international one world government and "eternal revolutions" to achieve this, who are predecessors to present-day American neocons and neomarxists.
Stalin refused this NWO "internationalism", becase he simply wanted to rule his country in his own personal way and he refused to obey the puppetmasters. Instead of international communism, he returned to old-fashioned nationalism mixed with communism. This was against the plan of zionists! They intended to destroy all traditions, patriotism and national identity in Russia, as they later did in Europe. That is why Stalin "deserved" to be punished and Russia was to be destroyed in WWII. Well, it did not work. After that, zionists attempted to bring Russia down again and thanks to people like Gorbachev, they managed to do this. However, they did not count on the fact that Russians are a stubborn nation and that it is very probable that this will happen again, that another strong national leader will rise in Russia and refuse to obey them once again.
Quote: "The significance of Stalin is, not that he was a "good guy", but that he gave to Jewish Bolsheviks a taste of their own medicine, and, over time, made Communism a less Jewish and more Russian system, reflected in the name for World War II, "the Great Patriotic War". At the start, Bolshevism was based not on equality of classes, but on Jewish domination (in league with other aggrieved minorities) of the majority Russians. Western sympathisers were particularly attracted to Trotsky and deceived by him, because of his skill in writing the story of the Revolution. His version became the accepted account for many naive socialists in the West. In their view, Stalin "buggered it up"; but, in truth, he simply stole the Jewish conspiracy.
So in the end, this is all once again about bringing Russia under NWO (or destroying it), because Russia is, historically, the only obstacle of NWO. The same thing was true at the times of the British Empire, when Brits (or rather anglo-zionists) hated Russia no less than today and sent Turks, Japanese etc. against them. Interestingly, Brits never dared to go to war with Russia directly themselves.
Just listen to zionists today. Whenever they talk about Russia, you feel that seething hatred, which is not pretended. I have heard phrases from them like: "Something must be done with those Russians, they need to be reeducated somehow." "Those Russians have always been THE problem."
Another quote: "In terms of strategic significance for the United States, the neocons' visceral Russophobia is much more significant. In the aftermath of the Cold War the neoconservatives have continued to regard Moscow as the enemy, enthusiastically supporting Chechen separatists as "freedom fighters" and advocating NATO expansion. Their atavism is comparable to Hitler's obsession with Russia, an animosity that was equally unrelated to the nature of its regime. It is only a matter of time before some neocons start advocating a new Drang nach Osten, in the form of an American-led scramble for Siberia. And the history is repeating itself once again, only this time Russia is a nuclear power."
Hitler is proof that Germans are stupid.
A short, dark haired, brown eyed man ran around describing the master race as the direct opposite to himself, and they chose him as their leader.
Too stupid to see the disconnect then and too stupid to see what Merkel is doing now.
And your comment is a proof that you moron.
Seriously.
Yes, excellent post, and of course there is more to it, but that is the point. These are extremely complicated issues with deep intertwined historical roots.
There is no way that America can justify our policies to the world, and Putin has sliced us open for the all to see the follies.
What I am waiting for is for Russia to declare a large safe area for refugees to return to Syria, or to stay there instead. This would be a huge political win for Russia, especially from the perspective of European countries being overrun. Vladimir Putin, Humanitarian. Talk about scoring a political knock out!
wow, now wouldn't that score some cool points with those country's overrun with refugees!
Some might even cancel their ZATO memberships...
Some are legit migrants, some are sabotage agents.
Sabotage at the right time can cripple electrical grid, water,
sewer, and roads.
They may either go for weak nuclear state like France,
or a decapitation strike like EU HQ.
Just imagine the feelings...
http://i.imgur.com/WDiIzZw.jpg
Thanks for the link. heh. Sounds like it was written by some ZH Pootin lover.
as opposed to the ZH terrorist lovers like you
mad that Putin has the balls to kill these fucks, while the people behind President Soetero just want to play footsie with them.
Asshole.
What I love is you all making yourselves look ignorant thinking Pootin is a savior. It's telling when you clowns hate Everyone but Pootin. Pretty fucking gay. You think he gives a fuck about you. heh. He gives no more of a fuck about you than Obama does. Get a grip.
Let me guess....high school drop out?
Who said Putin is a savior? Only you said that.
Why should Putin or Obama give a fuck about any one of us little nobodies?
I comment as to why retardates such as yourself are buttsore that the Russian airforce is splattering these Nike-wearing skumbags all over the desert. The other clowns supporting ethnic cleansing terrorists pretty much deserve any hate they have coming their way.
Why are so many mad at Russia killing terrorist scum? Are they friends or relatives of theirs? Or maybe you all work at the same company?
I'm curious why so much huffing and puffing over dead terrorists. don't we want them dead?
No, I'm not laffing at Pootin I'm laffing at you clowns with your daily Pootin circle jerks. Personally I have been all for getting the fuck out of the Mid East since day one. That shit hole is sucking dollars that could be spent fixing the infrastructure of America. I don't give a shit what ragheads including ISIS want and they don't give a shit about me. If ragheads love brutal dictators like Saddam/ISIS fine by me. If there religion makes them kill each other I don't care. I don't give a shit about Russia or China or Timbuck2 either. I'm just laffing at ZH'ers Pootin love.
....and ZHer's are laughing at you, who can't distinguish between what you call love of Putin (which exists only in weak minds), and disgust with what our country has become.
I don't love Putin, but I must say that I do admire many of his characteristics, and wish I could say the same about American leadership. So far, Putin appears to be both highly intelligent and mentally strong. He has been cool under tremendous pressure, and executes strategy exceedingly well. He has not been the aggressor; not meddled in other countries affairs. Even when he has had to act, it has been in a relatively restrained manner. I'm frankly surprised he hasn't taken more of Ukraine. The DnieperRiver looks like a natural dividing line to me.
Do you disagree? Do you "love" Obama?
I don't admire Anyone enough to support them. We are going to see whats what no matter what You or I think. It's on now and that is not good for anyone. No one is going to come out on top no matter how you want to spin it. You better get used to that.
flat out wrong - the DC criminals are in motion for destruction
The truly insane part is we don't need middle east oil.
We can grow it here, and have known about it for decades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hioZ7C6HLs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquatic_Species_Program
But it's NOT about Putin being a saivior, it's about the US war of eternal spending, lies, and theft.
Yes, but why act like Pootin is some sort of "fixer". Russia/ US, it's all evil Assad in or Assad out. Why even take a side, why support one form of bullshit over the other. I really do understand though. It's all about America bashing and now you have someone "who's gonna do something about it." Enjoy that while you can stretch it out with the bogus headlines and propaganda that you claim to hate in everyone else.
Smells like World War III.
Are you just now noticing the foul stench?
Promises, promises.
Am i wrong, or would it be an act of war, when foreign forces try to enter Syria?
And it would be the task of Russia/Iran to keep them out or show them out.
NATO is poweless against a super power. Dont send a boy to do a man's job!
The fucktards are playing with fire and they're too dumb to acknowledge it.
"We'll chicken them out of Syria". Yup, a sound plan! Whatever could go wrong?
Save Zato head choppers.
#jihadlivessplatter
Another Red Line Bammy? I should long red dry erase markers.
Its Commical to see how the US is trying to getinvolved ina war with no justification. Russia is INVITEDm the US has no business there.
Even more comical to see Putin Bitch slap the US
The US is out of its league with Putin
Correction: Obama is out of his league!
We elected him...twice. The comment was fair.
Barry got 99% of the vote in 100 precincts in Ohio.
Never happened before, not in the realm of statistical possibility.
Watch the film "Hacking Democracy"
http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/114412/Hacking_Democracy__Full_L...
The "milgagram experiment" sheeple will continue to allow this forever because
they have bread and circuses.
Assad and Iraq and Afghanistan should tell USA and NATO to GET OUT!! OR it's war!!
How would that go down in the newspapers... EU citizens would then see NATO for what it is... shit.
Japan would then follow suit... USA GO HOME
You wouldn't need to tell me twice!!!
ROFLMAO. Zio-shill MSimon just told us we'd have peace by Christmas while ZATO phone's are ringing off the hook from the Rothschild cabal screaming "war war war". That's all the zios know: WAR WAR WAR.
MSimon is so ineffective in hiding his hasbara roots that he openly links to Mossad created websites like "Muslims Against Sharia" on his personal home page. If this is the best that the Zionists have in propaganda shills, the end for them is near.
Go long Russian body bag makers.
Another product the US outsourced.
Goes well with US flag coffin drapes of chinese manufacture.
Not likely, they're bolstering the existing government not trying to create some new, doomed to fail one. They'll annihilate ISIS, maybe drive some more into (or back into) Europe for cover, and leave some reserves behind in fire bases until Assad is fully under control.
another mad Heebie ZH troll - the terrorists whose dicks he sucks are getting abused by Russia and the USSA is getting shown up.
Get over it, asshole. Go cry on Fox News with the other "patrots"
I'm not so sure this is where NATO really wants to practice their stupidity. Having balls is one thing but being stupid is a different game altogether.
Yeah, very few trees in Syria to hide under.
FUCK OFF NATO.
A lot of people in Europe have had enough with NATO, USA and the other war mongers.
Perhaps if the US would rethink those sanctions...
The U.S. is reaching a saturation point with the sanctions B.S. We are quickly losing any support from other countries, who are tired of their own economies suffering when they can't engage in fair and open trade with America's enemy de jour.
In reality, that is a prime factor in finally reaching the nuclear agreement with Iran. Russia, China, and the other major parties were done with the sanctions, and ready to tell America to stick it.
Russia is indeed on a “roll” in Syria. Meanwhile, US ally Saudi Arabia is busy killing more people at another wedding party in Yemen (the poorest country in the ME).
Link: www.rt.com/news/317969-saudi-strike-yemen-wedding/
So it appears that US & EU taxpayers are going to be spending more money to send more troops into the Syrian quagmire. Will these troops be sued to support ISIS, al-Qaeda, etc?
(Putin) "R-e-l-a-x; Relax; I got this"
What is Syria for NATO and US? - Another Black Hawk Down campaign
What is Syria for Russia? - Nothing ... and Everything
The stakes could not be more different
The biggest opportunity for the US here is to dump the $ before everyone else
Come on Assad..........just tell NATO to get the fuck out Syria.
After they ceasely called him a butcher, now he gets to tell them to eff-off and "stay out of 'my'country!"
Now that's a clip I'd like to see on Fox or any MSM for that matter...
These "circuses" are really not that convincing.
The bread must be running low.
I am so glad I am not in the military anymore taking orders from this GD morons in DC. I would have to refuse to participate in their war. I can;t believe we have such scumbags running our country.
In the past the propagamda worked better.
Now its a bit transparent, and the current batch of pirates on the potomac
have a bit too much over confidence, hubris, and swagger.
In the end it will cost them more then they or their families can imagine.
The world is sick of the CIA coups, sick of the National Security Study Memo 200
implementation, and most of the nations of the world are going to stand up
and say to hell with this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Study_Memorandum_200
When the BRICS+80 and most of the 3rd world decide they have put up with
this BS long enough the fall of the USA will come to an end, its been falling
since the Fed took over in 1913, maybe longer.
Rubbish to that and fuck Turkey, too. They've all have been stabbing us in the back so much their arms must be tired.
Wake Up Alfreud, Get in here and earn your pay
Lets cut through all the bullshit and get to the bottom line.
1. The Russians and Iranians have been invited into Syria by the existing legitimate government...NATO has not.
2. The Russians and Iranians are in compliance with the UN Charter...NATO is not.
How we Americans tolerate our government taking these illegal actions to overthrow the legitimate government of a country that is no threat to us is disgusting...it's like Iraq all over again, but even more blatent.
Oh good, the Russians have been invited by one of th emost murderous living rulers on the planet. Probably #2 behind Mugabe.
Woohoo, now there's a recommendation!
Invitation from Obama...
You're wrong, Obama didn't invite Russia.
KSA, Turkey, israel, USA - sad that Russia is killing off KIKE-SIS vermin
sends assholes like you out to cry about it.
"...one of th emost murderous living rulers on the planet."
No - Assad is neither Obama nor Netanyahu. Either of those would fit the bill, Assad not so much.
how much are these trolls getting paid?
You got it all WRONG! The most murderous REGIME on the planet with the most blood on its hands is the one who walks around trying to dictate to others. It's the regime that has just pulverised a hospital in Kunduz Afghanistan killing doctors and burning patients alive...the regime that not so long ago used depleted uranium on falluja, that killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Irakis, that is in bed with Neonazis in the Ukraine. Check your facts, piglet!
Can we please ban State Department IP's?
The reason is that the vast majority of Americans get their "news" from the MSM which is just a mouthpiece for the Permanant Government.
The Joker in the pack will be China and Chinese troops, if it 'answers' a call for help against ISIS by Syria.
And Russia doesn't send troops to Syria.
Its about oil, but also about Russia mainting its military bases in the region through Syria.
Russia destroyed 40% of ISIS in Syrai, almost half in only about 7 days.
USA is Outraged.
S/
That's going to generate a lot of refugees. I hope Ireland has enough beds to welcome them. Ireland of the Welcomes!
Dispersed u mean if anything...
"The U.S. is Russia's prison bitch"
The bright side is Barry's sending in NATO to do the dirty work so if the Russlies get too mad they take out Frankfurt or Paris, not NYC or DC. Bascially we're lucky to have NATO troops and cities as canon foodder. Then we can send in HAL, KBR, etc to get all the lucrative reconstruction projects and moollah.
Diabolical but Brilliant!
Handful of Dust
The best bit is, if they hit London, they will kill more foreigners than British.
Bascially we're lucky to have NATO troops and cities as canon foodder.
Don't be too sure. Most Russians don't see Europeans as their enemies, they know their mortal enemy is the USA government!!! They still hate the USA because of Russian-speaking people killed in Ukraine. Many Russians dream about bombing Washingtom and the White House. Watch this and learn, how Russians feel. And the spectacular end: Washington flattened with earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CALw0LKsdI
Many good Americans in common share these opinion with Russians people.
Heavy duty. Well done.
This is so pathetic. The US see enemies everywhere. Russia is not attacking Turkey. Period. Stop provoking them.
They're not provoking Russia. Putin is one cool cucumber. They are trying to provoke you into supporting them.
Same as always.
Can anyone explain what legal right the USA has to be in Syria at this point?
Aside from "Empire" "We are the USA"... Is there any UN resolution or other "legal" reason?
Russia has been invited by the current government of Syria... thus the Russians are there "legally".