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Edward Snowden's New Revelations Are Truly Chilling
Submitted by Sophie McAdam via TrueActivist.com,
Former intelligence contractor and NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden told the BBC's Panorama that the UK intelligence centre GCHQ has the power to hack phones without their owners’ knowledge.
In an interview with the BBC’s ‘Panorama’ which aired in Britain last week, Edward Snowden spoke in detail about the spying capabilities of the UK intelligence agency GCHQ. He disclosed that government spies can legally hack into any citizen’s phone to listen in to what’s happening in the room, view files, messages and photos, pinpoint exactly where a person is (to a much more sophisticated level than a normal GPS system), and monitor a person’s every move and every conversation, even when the phone is turned off. These technologies are named after Smurfs, those little blue cartoon characters who had a recent Hollywood makeover. But despite the cute name, these technologies are very disturbing; each one is built to spy on you in a different way:
- “Dreamy Smurf”: lets the phone be powered on and off
- “Nosey Smurf”:lets spies turn the microphone on and listen in on users, even if the phone itself is turned off
- “Tracker Smurf”:a geo-location tool which allows [GCHQ] to follow you with a greater precision than you would get from the typical triangulation of cellphone towers.
- “Paranoid Smurf”: hides the fact that it has taken control of the phone. The tool will stop people from recognising that the phone has been tampered with if it is taken in for a service, for instance.
Snowden says: “They want to own your phone instead of you.” It sounds very much like he means we are being purposefully encouraged to buy our own tracking devices. That kinda saved the government some money, didn’t it?
His revelations should worry anyone who cares about human rights, especially in an era where the threat of terrorism is used to justify all sorts of governmental crimes against civil liberties. We have willingly given up our freedoms in the name of security; as a result we have neither. We seem to have forgotten that to live as a free person is a basic human right: we are essentially free beings. We are born naked and without certification; we do not belong to any government nor monarchy nor individual, we don’t even belong to any nation or culture or religion- these are all social constructs. We belong only to the universe that created us, or whatever your equivalent belief. It is therefore a natural human right not to be not be under secret surveillance by your own government, those corruptible liars who are supposedly elected by and therefore accountable to the people.
The danger for law-abiding citizens who say they have nothing to fear because they are not terrorists, beware: many peaceful British protesters have been arrested under the Prevention Of Terrorism Act since its introduction in 2005. Edward Snowden‘s disclosure confirms just how far the attack on civil liberties has gone since 9/11 and the London bombings. Both events have allowed governments the legal right to essentially wage war on their own people, through the Patriot Act in the USA and the Prevention Of Terrorism Act in the UK. In Britain, as in the USA, terrorism and activism seem to have morphed into one entity, while nobody really knows who the real terrorists are any more. A sad but absolutely realistic fact of life in 2015: if you went to a peaceful protest at weekend and got detained, you’re probably getting hacked right now.
It’s one more reason to conclude that smartphones suck. And as much as we convince ourselves how cool they are, it’s hard to deny their invention has resulted in a tendency for humans to behave like zombies, encouraged child labor, made us more lonely than ever, turned some of us into narcissistic selfie–addicts, and prevented us from communicating with those who really matter (the ones in the same room at the same time). Now, Snowden has given us yet another reason to believe that smartphones might be the dumbest thing we could have ever inflicted on ourselves.
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Long carrier pigeons
what happened to the previous comments on this?
So the machines have taken over, and it wansn't because the machines got smarter.
Full disclosure, I still have a flip phone. Everyone asks me why.
It must be time for Hillary
They don't believe me when I tell them why.
I leave my phone right next to me when i am banging so the perverts at NSA can jerk off.
Snowden has done a good job showing us the problem.
Please allow me to show you what I consider to be the keystone to a solution: real campaign reform.
Otherwise, we are all subjects to the Ghost of Boss Tweed...
...mixed with legalized bribery in the form of campaign contributions.
How is campaign reform going to unseat the secret government?
How are you going to unseat it without sortition?
A better system will emerge and outperform the existing system to such an extent that the populations will demand it.
Kinda long for a bumber sticker but what do you think (especially considering the potential reading time when stuck in a massive Chinese traffic jam - let me hear ya say "YEAH" Los Angeles!!!)?
Smartphones, no matter how cool, they:
Make people behave like zombies
Rely on slave and child labor for bankster and corporate profits
Make you more lonely, and desperate than ever
Encourage absolutely meaningless narcissistic selfies
Distract you from the real world crumbling all around you
And let government workers (your neighbor?) spy on your 7 year old, in his room,
naked!
"We are born naked and without certification; we do not belong to any government nor monarchy nor individual, we don’t even belong to any nation or culture or religion- these are all social constructs. We belong only to the universe that created us, or whatever your equivalent belief."
As minors by law children do not have autonomy or the right to make decisions on their own for themselves in any known jurisdiction of the world.
But where are those who fight for the right of infants, children, and adolescents? Do we not not care about how we manipulate lovely children into becoming as hard as ourselves as we transmit parental conditioning from generation to generation?
Society is your parents' writ large. Your parents were nothing but agents of this society. It is all a conspiracy: the parents, the teachers, the policeman, the magistrate, the president — they are all together. It is all a conspiracy: they are all holding the future of all children.
Seven Sins of Forced Education - Schools Are Prisons
"But where are those who fight for the right of infants, children, and adolescents? Do we not not care about how we manipulate lovely children into becoming as hard as ourselves as we transmit parental conditioning from generation to generation?"
Sounds pretty, libertarian and all these things, but it doesn't work. The few wild children (untaught by anyone but themselves) found to this day were all well-nigh autistic. Not that they were born autistic, but the lack of even basic education had shaped humans who found it nearly impossible to communicate with others, despite the best efforts to teach them basics. The best known case could never even learn how to speak.
Education is an absolute necessity. Just don't turn it into brainwashing.
Lea , you are talking about unparented , un-nurtured , Un-loved? children , a world of difference between that and just not sent to an indoctrination compound, sorry "school". What is the word for that form of arguement you just used ? I forget , somebody help me out here , I am still "learning"
Agreed Nucking, that's also why i keep my 'Breaking Bad' flip phone.
justdues, it was walk away that talked about parental conditioning and then referenced an article on schools. Lea's argument was a good one and correct. You must be still learning.
--Zbigniew Brzezinski (1970)
Walk-Away - Schools are Prisons
God Bless Texas. We homeschool and I can faithfully report that we are not required to report our progress to even one government agent. Resources are available to us but it is entirely voluntary.
By the way, my homeschooled son thinks *he* is in a prison camp but we have repeatedly given him the option to go to public school. He declines but moans just the same. Can't win 'em al.
ESP , but it is already avaiable to the select few who grasp it.
A better option....
http://www.bgf.nu/greenbook.pdf
How are you going to unseat it without sortition?
Why is "sortition" needed?
We have inherent "free-will".
Free people can live and respect each other's freedom that does not transgress "common" cultural "norms" (by murdering, or raping, or beating or stealing).
It's kinda what existed before we all some how "agreed" to "sortition".
Please reply with more obscure, peudo-intellectual words that reveal you are a paid blogging troll.
"He who controls the kleroterion, controls the sortition." -Abraham Lincoln
That statment gives me the urge to cleanse my Thetans, for some odd reason.
And I'm not even a Scientologist!
De-centralized government and referendums would be a better solution than sortition. Corruption will exist in any system, so either get rid of capitalism and property (without going to communism,) or move to direct democracy.
Otherwise, I fear we are too far gone.
Direct democracy allows YOU to have a say over MY life. Why should you get to have any say in what happens to me? Why can't we just go back to being a republic. Anyone who even tries to inflict the will of "the people" on an individual or smaller group can be held in a pillory in the town square. Or hung for that matter. That would probably stop it from happening.
"We are born naked and without certification; we do not belong to any government nor monarchy nor individual, we don’t even belong to any nation or culture or religion- these are all social constructs. We belong only to the universe that created us, or whatever your equivalent."
They think their system is based on " the full faith and credit of the United States ". What is that ? Their ability to tax the American people. And what is that ? Their ability to use violence to take the product of your labors. YOU are nothing but collateral to Them.
There is a reason that the 'federal' reserve fiat private debt based banking system and income tax were established around the same time.
To make you slaves within their criminal fascist system.
And how come no D or R 'prez candidate' ever brings this up ? Are you kidding ? They are a circus act to entertain the slaves between work days.
This completely sucks.
Everybody reading here KNOWS this sucks.
WHAT are you, yes YOU doing about it???
OF COURSE, absolutely nothing.
Just reading shit on Zero Hedge.
Thats all Folks.
Kiss the Tylers' asses.
That's all you do very well.
Pisss off cunts.
Crisismode - Shut up asshole. How we all share our collective intellect is stilll very much up for debate. What, shall we destroy all infrastructure to determine the course of debate? In the end and not far off in decades we are all meeting s one collective intelligence.
What I am doing about it is not buying one of those phones. Mine has no camera, no mic, no WIFI. It's not much, but it's a start. I also live 3 miles off blacktop with no broadband. I choose to separate myself to the extent that I am comfortable with. If others choose to carry a fucking spying device on them at all times.... Then that's their choice.
Washington DC 2017 - Congress today passed the Cellphones Required for Tracking Bill requiring all citizens to have a cellphone on their person and activated. Failure to do so would be a federal felony punishable by five years in prison. President Hillary immediately signed the bill into law. "This bill will stop the terrorists that want to destroy our country," she said. "Only anti-Americans don't want to be tracked at all times." The bill also makes provisions for the expansion of the cellphone network into rural communities within one year.
They really should be paired with a unique chip implanted into the neck of the user which may be detonated in order to prevent a crime from taking place. Santa is always watching, bitchez........
Heh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mER2fGuSqF8
I guess that gives me one year to leave the country....,which is nice. Since the " holler" I live in wont get cell service until they mandate it. The warning will be nice.
Nah, we would have civil war/ revolution before it got that far.
Really? Look at how far down the rabbithole we are now compared to ten years ago...and still not civil war/revolution or, even, mass wake-up call.
https://www.silentcircle.com/products-and-solutions/devices/
A phone with no mic has to suck.
"Hear no evil"
"See no evil"
Ooops on the other one
Makes it basically a speaker with a phone number, eh?
Yeah...its called a transistor radio.
RFID protecting carry case is a faraday cage .... works fine .... phone accessible when you want, and invisible and uncontactable the rest of the time. Or just leave it at home !
I haven't had any phone since about 4 years ago
"Edward Snowden's New Revelations"?
Ok, so he "enlightened" the 65% of sheeple who are "not" part of the Military-Banking Industrial Complex causing this "creeping" Fascism.
Get a bigger bucket of popcorn, "folks", cause he is just another Kabuki distraction.
Why hasn't he revealed anything of 9/11? The $8.5 Trillion the DoD "can't account for"? How about the ongoing MK-ULTRA (now under various new
names, like JADE HELM) projects and infrastructure build up with what purpose? How about murderous suppression of "free energy" technology
(and confiscated working devices) that would end the Petro-Banking-War cabal?
Many "leakers" have come before him (with documents) and revealed almost all of it and the NSA is running the show on all of the above,
including the emissary role to our "offworld" overlords that have a gun to all of our heads.
Ouch, Trolls ...you donwvotes hurt so much...go cash your Project for a New American Century cheque, and sell out this country some more you fucking back-stabbing worms.
Majestic - please explain how you think it possible the Edward would acquire inside knowledge about 9/11, an event that happened while he was still in highschool I believe. He captured traffic. He's exposing what he captured and learned. He can not capture traffic from an event that occurred several years before he began capturing traffic. Or can he? Please explain.
"how you think it possible the Edward would acquire inside knowledge about 9/11"
I guess you haven't heard, that he downloaded Terrabytes of data from NSA computers across multiple subjects and events?
You are familiar with computers aren't you?
They "store" data (information on NSA activity) on kewl little thingy devices called "storage".
Yes, of course, he downladed traffic. The NSA segregates the older stuff from the recent incoming, a common procedure in data centers with traffic. Firewalls are set up on a need to know basis. Snowden, because of his job had access to and captured traffic, not history from years ago. He also knows a lot about methods.
Of course, any incriminating 9/11 traffic, if not destroyed already, is stuck away, so deep in the vault that even you, you big know-it-all could not find it.
The guy risked a lot for all of us. Appreciate that.
Take a moment and try to consider reality before slagging the guy for not doing something he could not possibly do.
"The NSA segregates the older stuff from the recent incoming"
How the fuck would you know, Troll?
Distraction and make it up as you go, just like CNN?
Now, go use "all" of you mutliple profiles for downvotes, so you can collect your check, and sell out this country some more!
Paranoid much? Don't be so trollish. How would I know? Like I said its common practice, which you would know too if you knew anything you were talking about.
You just got schooled
"You just got schooled"
As if you have been there. You sound like you're 12, or a "white, wannabe thug".
Now, go use "all" of you mutliple profiles for downvotes, so you can collect your check, and sell out this country some more!
I just wanted to chime in to say, "fuck you, loser."
I've had a flip phone for about eight months now - prior to that a land line - and my bill is about $6 a month, so fuck Apple, the NSA, Zuckerberg and the rest of the neo-Nazi assclowns.
I live on some land - with no address, I might add - that has no electric (fuck the power grid, too), no running water except for the meandering stream which flows through it, and I absolutely love it because it means people like Majestic12 don't know where I am and won't come to visit. In fact, my most frequent visitors are deer and a couple of blue herons who also appreciate the serenity of the surroundings.
Go crawl back into your mommy's womb, twit.
Sounds very stone age -- apart from the apparent internet access you must be using for posts.
Do you get that using aligator clips on the tree branches? Small water wheel for power?
Yeah - I wanna know why Snowden hasn't personally assassinated the pope for being an NWO tool, or cured cancer, that lazy fuckstick. How dare he not be all things to all people! Damned poseur.
" How dare he not be all things to all people!"
Because "Mr. Erable", he advertizes that he is an NSA informant...and allegedly, the US gov't wants him bad...nice theatre.
NSA activity includes documents and evidence that directly implicate the NSA in 9/11...the same NSA that Snowden claims he is "revealing" to us all...
Keep watching the shiny object.
Please, NSA troll, throw out another distaction cover that suffices for a "comment" on this blog.
I'd normally tell you to go fuck yourself at this point, but you'd have to pull your head out of your ass before you made the attempt - and I'm convinced it's so firmly lodged there that this should be considered your normal posture.
I think that he just enjoys the smell .
So this is the origin of "tunnel vision".
# "NSA activity includes documents and evidence that directly implicate the NSA in 9/11...the same NSA that Snowden claims he is "revealing" to us all...OK. Agreed.
Now where are those documents and why are you so damn sure Edward had access to all that? Why do you think that every NSA operative has access to all the crown jewels? That's ridiculess. Is your model of how spy agencies work based on Rocky and Bowinkle vs. Boris and Natasha?
My advice to you is study up on what is meant by a "need to know basis".
Edward is not hiding in another country because of what he has done, but rather because of what he saw. Jail does not bother him. Being assassinated on the street is what he fears.
In a Time of Universal Deceit — Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act
"My advice to you"
More MIC trolls pretending to share their bogus "classified" status?
You know a lot about the inner workings of the NSA ...and you are defending Snowden?
Same side?
And how many milleneals here do you think know who "Rocky and Bulwinkle" are?
Talk about "ridiculous" idiocy.
Thomas Drake, among others have "leaked" far more than the MSM Snowjob decades ago, end of story.
If the NSA wanted Snowjob dead, he would have been so long before he got to Russia.
Majejestic, you nailed it with your last sentence. The typical Hedger can't comprehend that simple sentence nor do they want to, because if they did it would lead to other revelations and they just can't have that.
Stop looking for fake heros like Snowden, Puttin and Trump, the hero resides within if you can find them.
Unlike previous whistle blowers, Snowden left with the goods. Think about that Magestic.
And while you are at it, thinking that is, why avoid these important questions I asked you above?
"where are those documents and why are you so damn sure Edward had access to all that? Why do you think that every NSA operative has access to all the crown jewels?"
Thanks and back off the meds.
do what you want in your life and hope for the best BUT be clear to have some solutions for the issues that you know are happening
Your welcome to buy a weapon and take action. For the rest it's information.
Information not told anywhere else.
It's good we have whisle-blowers like Snowden. Someone that's brave enough to risk their own life. He knew the consequences.
"It's good we have whisle-blowers"
But not "like Snowden".
It's a ruse.
He is in no danger.
And Sandy Hook did not happen.
Wake TFU.
Got many "weapons".
You're not taking SSRIs, are you?
I would agree with all but Snowden is a ruse. There are a few countries without the Red Shield bank. Allowing the banks to skim off wealth to enrich a handful of lazy men does not appeal to everyone. Thus, I believe the Snowden information is for politicians and business leaders ... who use these devices to communicate, as "who is with, and who is against" the Matrix is clearly underway and ridding the naysayers covertly, through monstrous means of neutralizing, ruining them or burying them. Fighting this is the most important thing we will face in our lifetime. These are cruel and unusual people who have very bad intentions.
Everything is going exactly according to plan.
But Remember. Personal data collection and retention always precedes profiling. What proceeds profiling, history has shown, is ethnic cleansing. What type of cleansing/eratication will depend on who at any given time is at the realm. This will lead to the possibility of its creators being the target of discerning exactly who is up to monkey business by their definition of monkey business.
What am I doing about it ? Threw out the TV 15 years ago, dont buy newspapers, keep the bare minimum in a bank account , buy organic and second hand where possible, dont shop at corporate chains, support local independant businesses, dont vote, dont register to vote, talk the "truth" even when it is unpopular and makes me few friends, teach my children the truth and to question everything especially "authority" and "culture", I could go on , little things I know,not going to bring down governments overnight but important one hundredth monkey syndrome steps. What are you doing other than throwing monkey poo ?
I like it. But you ask what else can you do? Try to be self-sufficient. Grow your own. Store your own.
~"WHAT are you, yes YOU doing about it???"~
Cell phone bought in Malaysia pre-smart phones.
Pre-paid SIM card with radom ficticious name attached.
No Social Security # on account.
No Street address.
Time added to SIM in person, in cash.
Blow me, Crisismode.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/07/09/american-gestapo-agency-he...
If you want to defeat our intelligence agencies, that tells you how.
Interesting blog:
I sense a tendency by the author to blur the psyches of different kinds of people. Humanity is not uniform. One of the most important distinctions is that between normals and psychopaths. Most of our current troubles would not develop with greater checks on the predilections and reproduction of psychopaths.
Political Ponerology: A Science on the Nature of Evil Adjusted for Political Purposes
I have a couple candy-bar phones, my main one has a CPU and memory incapable of doing anything more complicated than texting. And that still doesn't mean they can't use it to spy on you.
I also had a Motorola Droid that was phoning home every 10 minutes and would send any password entered into the device in plaintext to the server it was connecting to. And funny thing, it would also magically turn itself on if I moved the phone more than about 1/4 mile when it was turned off. That feature appearred right when [redacted, but a TLA has interest in me for a short time].
Yeah, these aren't phones. They're tracking and spying devices that just happen to make phone calls. And they have the nerve to bill you for this.
Here in Australia I will be forced to have a smart phone as they switch off the existing technology. They wrote me a letter telling me the date of the switch off.
What they can also do is see how much money you have, and they have done so for years. This way they can ascertain if you can afford a court case to seek justice. If they determine you are not wealthy enough to go to court, they can just take your land without compensation and give it to cronies. this happened to me in Berlin under the Kohl-Regime in Germany. To this day these government shenanigans have not been addressed by Kohl's darling Merkel.
Full disclosure, I still have a flip phone. Everyone asks me why.
Full disclosure: I don't have a cell phone - and probably never will. I've seemed to survive most of my life just fine without the wretched things - they really have done a number on interpersonal skills. It's a shame - I do love technology .... it just sucks that every new advancement, however cool, is perverted by the "controllers" to degrade humanity rather than uplifting it.
I have a flip phone because I live out in the desert and you could be twenty miles from absolutely nothing in a circle. I like having it if one of my clunkers breaks down out in those zones. Annoyingly, people actually call and text me for stupid shit. Mom, sisters, wife..and always when I'm driving, taking a shit, or leading a meeting.
I've taken to turning it off until I want it on. And removing/replacing the battery, less than five seconds, is on the horizon.
I haven't had a phone for about 4 years
I explain that mine cost less than $10, I put $40 on it and that lasts six months or so. If I break it or lose it, I can replace it for $10, transfer my old number and minute balance to the new phone and continue on. Why the fuck would I want to pay a monthly charge for something I seldom use?
Wife, however, got embarrassed from her flip phone and insisted on getting one of those fancy ones. I admit it does have features that we use from time to time, Wayz, for instance. Otherwise, she's like a fuckin' teenager on it, playing games, facebook, and other shit which is annoying as hell when driving at night. For her, I'm paying $52 a month. At least it reduces the bitchiness from where it was.
OldPhart, you're my freaking hero, and I don't mean that sarcastically. I have a flip phone that last month cost me $4 to use (kinda same plan as yours). Also have a GF who has an Apple 6 or something, is constantly on it playing games, cruising facebook and what-not. Drives me bonkers, but it does keep the bitchiness down to some degree and gives me some peace and quiet.
What bothers me about the smart phones - besides the stupidity of the people who use them - is that thye're constantly after users to upgrade to the newest model. When did it happen that you need a new phome every year or two. Why not every six months? Or six weeks?
Fucking waste of resources all these phones and other devices. People need ot give up the rat race (use of that term tells you roughly how old I am). Grow your own. Be self-sufficient. And please, please, don't vote for any office higher than local (town, city) government. It only encourages the assholes.
All the Muppets banging on about being less trackable because they don't own a smartphone, but choose to use a 'dumbphone' instead, make me laugh. That would be great if everyone you contacted regularly have a dumbphone as well. But as soon as you call or text someone that does own a 'smartphone' your cover is blown. You're being monitored whether you like it or not. Best option is to either not have a cell phone at all, or, keep your mobile based activities to a minimum. Leave it at home at the weekends. Pull the battery out, etc...assume all cell phone use is monitored and then work around it. Play their game. Feel the freedom of being able to run out of gas or pick up a tire puncture without the need to call the first friend in your contact list and ask them to come rescue you. Stay clear of FaceSpaceYelpMailTube for a few days, pick up a book. Read a map. Buy something from a store instead of eBay. Meet you friends in a bar instead of a messenger app. Actually, on second thoughts, fuck it...Where's my iPhone.....?
Well, I did meet Miffed Microbiologist and Mr. Miffed at a local bar.
Just wanted to say, that comment made my day.
Good idea ! The only problem is that you have to carry your pigeons in a big cage to your friends' if you want your pigeons to fly back home. And your friends have to carry their pigeons to your home for you to send them back . Beware of hunters ! Personally, as I do not like phoning ( except for very important and urgent communications), nor being disturbed anywhere, I do not have a mobile phone . I use my e-mail for casual communications and postal letters in sealed envelopes for more secret messages . Otherwise, if things get worse ,we should find a code based on a very rare essay, for example our first unknown ( and very bad) literary school work .
Thank God this sort of thing could never happen in the USA, thanks to the Fourth Amendment of the US Constitution.
Those good military folks at the NSA swear an oath to uphold The United States Constitution.
And finally, as our President, Barack Hussein Obama, tells us...
I'm sorry what were ... I have a call. Oh just a moment let me take a selfie. Ok what were you ..
I have gathered together 7 videos here that show how the Pacific Ocean has been nuked by Fukushima.
Many people do not realize that the Pacific Ocean is having extensive Unusual Mortality Events
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2015/12/the-pacific-ocean-has-been-...
This document now printed on soft paper double ply and assembled on cardboard roller?
Effectively so. Gives world sadness and sadness for Americans.
You forgot to mention the "Made in China"?
"I'll give you my gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands"
They'll be happy to hire some psychopath to do exactly that
I'll give you my IPhone 6S when you pry it from my cold dead hands!
"Those good military folks at the NSA swear an oath to uphold The United States Constitution."
NSA is civilian, masquerading as military. Pretty sure the only oath they ever took was to cover each other's ass.
HH, "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers and effects..."
I guess the framers forgot to include "smart phones" on that list.
If they own the phone instead of you, they should be paying for the phone.
1984 was so 1984. The spying is a lot more comprehensive now. The troika of the MIC, Wall Street and spooks owns you in the Orwellian-named land of the free.
Edward Snowden says NSA spying worse than Orwell’s ‘1984’ in his 'Alternative Christmas Message'http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/edward-snowden-nsa-spying-worse-or...
"Now, Snowden has given us yet another reason to believe that smartphones might be the dumbest thing we could have ever inflicted on ourselves." Or as Albert Einstein said, "I fear the day that technology will surpass our human interaction. The world will have a generation of idiots."
Phony Terrorism = Totalitarianism
If terrorism was real - the UK, USA, Europe and others would not allow people to flood into these countries.
Terrorism is fake BS. If it were real - the borders would not be Wide Open.
You couldn't work wood chipper in that comment. I really like your wood chipper comments:)
If you wanted to use something like terrorism to exercise more control over the population, creating real terrorists and letting them do their thing is always going to be superior to false flags. How many potential terrorists have we created via our bombing?
"1984 was so 1984. The spying is a lot more comprehensive now"
Oh yeah? It has been here for some time....
Did You Know You Also Have a Uniform Birth Number?
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/10/did-you-know-you-also-have-a-uniform-birth-number.html
Why doesn't snowden just threaten to show the "dick pictures" of Obama to get what he wants?
Um, because it's up Reggie's ass?
"Um, because it's up Reggie's ass?"
Oh, snap...Im gonna ROFL for a month!
Pencil and paper
Once they see some of the pictures on my phone, they'll be hacking that fkr 24x7
Is there any doubt that the Smurfs are active on your smartphone right now in the US?
Of course not. The 4th amendment prohibits illegal search and seizure.
You mean the surveillance state was created to impart an economic advantage to a connected group of people in our post 2000 zero growth world?
Who would have thunk it.
Smurfy
If he goes on the BBC then he's not to be trusted in my book.
Where, in your opinion, would you go to do discosure of this kind of information to an audience measured in numbers beyond the hundreds?
Just what elements of this article require 'trust'?
Do you think it's a lie that .GOV is doing all it can do to preserve itself?
If there was no agenda behind this then he wouldn't be allowed on the BBC to fool the likes of you DollarMenu.
You go and jerk in your anonymous mask and chant hail snowden and come back to me when you can think clearly.
The Beeb can not operate without some credibility or their bs won't stick. Sometimes they have to say something true.
Fuck I gave you a thumbs up and now they know!!!
iSmurf
I've been Smurffed
What the Smurf?
Smurf you GCHQ!
"We Smurfed some folks"
What the Smurf Mother Smurfers........
Smurf the Smurfing Smurfers!
old phones are the best
Only if it's switched off, without a battery, crushed with a hammer and buried in a Kardashian ass.
Otherwise every call is very easily traced, registered, unregistered, 1 second call, 1 hour call. The cell mast is instantly traceable.
I have camera block and micophone block
Please elaborate, what is camera/microphone block? And if it's an app how do you know it doesn't actually open you up to more snooping?
Electrical tape works pretty good for camera block. Snips and solder work pretty well for microphone block.....
Hmmm - a phone without a microphone. Isn't that just a paperweight?
No wonder everyone just hangs up when I call them..........
that there's some funny shit alright.
New tinfoil: Wrap your phone in tin foil (or aluminum foil,) and try to call it. If it rings, add another layer or two, and make sure it is sealed up. If no signal is getting in, no signal is getting out.
My camera block, on this computer, is the back of a marlboro box taped across the lens.
Microphone is active, and I welcome some poor, dumbass at the NSA to have to listen to either absolute silence, or the unholy sounds of my wife bitching about something in a very loud voice. I can only imagine that poor sucker cringing in horror.
My wife, also, has taken to blocking her laptop lens.
bluetack works fine for the microphone.
Those get you absolutely nothing against an intelligence agency. If you paid for them, you were had.
I'll save the NSA some time: my life is truly boring and I hate the fucking gov't...that about sums it up.
While this is old news, it is worth repeating over and over again.
Smart phones are the best tracking and espionage tool ever invented and authoritarian governments didn't even have to invent them. Apple, Google, Samsung, LG, Motorola, et. al, where only too happy to oblige.
What would happen if those inventors stumbled upon some sense of moral purpose and responsibility? On second thought, nah. Never happen.
I don't have a cell phone, just a land line that I use for my 56k modem dialup. They can hack my phone all they want, but they should be warned that every word I write, or speak, will cost them $1000 USD payable upon receipt of whomever wants to snoop. All government run institutions are automatically billed at the double rate per word read, or downloaded to be viewed.
I really do laugh at all the cell phone zombies.
Here they are giving billions of dollars to companies who are using their money to develop robots to take away their jobs, computer chips to spy on their every move, and unmanned computerized gun towers that can put a gold dot right between their i i's from a mile away. And they just LOVE IT!
This cell phone is the GREATEST thing that ever happen! HERE! I know you dont give a fuck but look at these pictures on my i-idiot of me and my stuff and smile, ok.
This world has gone full retard.
A friend of my friend tweeted on Facebook that they were in the crapper in Starbucks shitting coffee grounds on Pinterest for free using Whatstwat but it would expire 30 seconds after she dropped her box on AM to score a hungry horse.
You tell people that and they don't believe you.
Cold got to be!
"A friend of my friend tweeted on Facebook that they were in the crapper in Starbucks shitting coffee grounds on Pinterest for free using Whatstwat but it would expire 30 seconds after she dropped her box on AM to score a hungry horse."
WTF? Google translate can't even make that shit out. Best I can tell is that a friend of a friend did something did something something for free something something hungry horse.
Uh, fuck, lead the horse to grass, it'll figure it out.
The sad thing about all of this is though I may (and do) choose to opt out of utilizing (or being used by) this technology the zombies phones cast a net large enough to capture me anywhere I go. Not to mention all of the other technologies designs to track and log every detail of my life from driving and purchasing habits to my online activities, all without my consent. We are entering a very dark age for freedom.......
Ever heard of Appropriate Technology? Use the appropriate form of communication, that suits the situation and privacy needs.
Basic Phone, text coded numbers (something other than CB or Police codes)
Church event
Dogwhistle signals
Drop Boxes
Face-to-face. Spoken, whispered, sign language, foreign language. During an outdoor activity.
Fax
Hand-delivered courier (a la Dick Cheney)
Handwritten Message via Flower Delivery
Snail Mail
Social Events
Walkie-Talkie
etc, etc, etc.
If you really want to be devious, you could send different parts of same message via different means (Multi-Domain Messaging), which makes the interception and decoding virtually impossible, given that TPTB are fixated on electronic media and have very limited manpower for human surveillance (for a 'vanilla' person for any length of time).
If you travel to another country or continent, consider buying a simple Burner phone, as the charges are typically lower than in the US. Use a phone only in its country, avoid international calls. If you're worried about voice-print ID, use a some method to alter your voice (can even speak hoarsely, if need be).
Add steganography to that list.
Time to get out the old string and cans.
The talk/text/browse abilitites are secondary to the real purpose of snooping / advertising.
Sort of like radio, or television - it's a platform to deliver paid advertising.
Really need to have componentized that can be easily opened and unwanted components removed.
The snowden 'show' smells like an orchestrated 'event'. Sorta like some other 'events'.
I don't trust it.
A day to remember. That day revealed much. Every day since, also reveals much.
What is happening to us?
Why are we tolerating this...
I suspect that snowden is a pawn. Snowden himself *might* not realize it. Far to many bizarre events over the last 25 years or so in particular. The pattern is so strikingly clear.
I propose that Snowden would have been eliminated were he not useful.
+1 Snowden is only 'revealing' what anyone with their ears open already knows.
I seriously never thought of a smart phone as cool. A phone is to make phone calls on. Thats about it
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