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In Major Escalation, US To Sail Warships Around China's Man-Made Islands In South Pacific
For those who may have missed it, China’s land reclamation efforts in the Spratlys have become one of the most important geopolitical stories of the year.
In an effort to project the country’s growing military prowess, the PLA navy has used a collection of dredgers to build a series of islands atop reefs in the South China Sea, and although that actually isn’t unprecedented (some of China’s neighbors have embarked on similar projects), the scope of it is, as Beijing has so far constructed some 3,000 acres of new sovereign territory.
Of course these aren’t exactly inconsequential waters. On the contrary, these are shipping lanes through which trillions in global trade run and Washington’s regional allies aren’t particularly enamored with China’s “sand castles,” which some view as an attempt to build illegal military outposts.
This all comes as the PLA has taken on a more assertive role, expanding its patrols and even showing up unexpectedly in Yemen earlier this year to evacuate civilians trapped in the country’s war-torn port city of Aden.
Well, don’t look now, but the US is set to direct its own ships to sail around Beijing’s South China Sea islands simply to prove that Washington hasn’t lost all military credibility. Here’s FT:
The US is poised to sail warships close to China’s artificial islands in the South China Sea as a signal to Beijing that Washington does not recognise Chinese territorial claims over the area.
A senior US official told the Financial Times that the ships would sail inside the 12-nautical mile zones that China claims as territory around some of the islands it has constructed in the Spratly chain. The official, who did not want to be named, said the manoeuvres were expected to start in the next two weeks.
The move, which is likely to raise tensions between the powers, comes amid disagreement over several issues, including US allegations that China is engaging in commercial cyber espionage.
Ashton Carter, US defence secretary, has been seeking permission to take more assertive maritime actions for months. The White House had resisted because of concerns that such actions would escalate the situation in the contested waters of the South China Sea. But it finally agreed after officials failed to make headway on the issue during Chinese President Xi Jinping’s recent visit to Washington.
In his press conference with Mr Xi last month, President Barack Obama said he had expressed “significant concerns over land reclamation, construction and the militarisation of disputed areas”, and stressed that the US would “continue to sail, fly and operate anywhere that international law allows”.
While the US has routinely sailed ships through international waters in the South China Sea, it has refrained from sending them inside the 12-nautical mile zone of the artificial features since 2012, which was before China ramped up its construction activities around the Spratlys.
The new tack is intended to reinforce the US stance that China’s claims are not consistent with international law, including the United Nations Law of the Sea (Unclos).
So essentially, the US is doing this just to see if it still can without getting shot at. Of course Washington got a hint of how determined China is to enforce what amounts to a no-fly zone over these islands earlier this year when the PLA essentially threatened to shoot down a PA-8 Poseidon spy plane with a CNN crew on board over Fiery Cross.
All of the above is also interesting for what it says about international diplomacy. Just last week Chinese President Xi Jinping made the PR rounds in the US and dined at the White House and apparently, America's Nobel Peace Prize winning commander in chief was unable to come to some kind of understanding that de-escalates the island issue.
As is the case with countering Russia in Syria, the US needs to decide what to do quickly lest Washington should effectively be left with no options at all other than to just fold. Here's FT again:
Rory Medcalf, an Asia expert at Australian National University, said there were “no easy or risk-free options for challenging China’s passive-aggressive strategy of manufacturing and militarising islands” in the region. “If the US is serious about ensuring that China does not dominate these waters, then the longer it waits, the riskier its freedom-of-navigation activities will become.”
And speaking of Syira, if rumors of the PLA's presence at Latakia are true, this could all escalate very, very quickly.
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Here, as a reminder, are the satellite images which demonstrate the extent to which Beijing is "changing the landscape", so to speak, in the South China Sea.
Subi:
Fiery Cross:
Mischief:
Gaven:
Hughes:
Johnson South:
Cuarteron:
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Bullish.
Burrish.
They are probably just going to ask if they could go scuba diving, you'll probably be able to do some nice wreck dives soon too!
US will be warned that the area is mined and to proceed at their own risk !!!
The US is so fucked.
WELL, You Know The Ole Saying... If You Keep Losing All Your Wars, Then Go Out And TROLL Some New Ones...
The real issue here is that China now has their anti carrier missle, the DF 21D.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/b94d907a-507a-11e5-b029-b9d50a74fd14.html#axzz...
By building a number of islands it's possible for China to place these missles in bomb proof missile silo's and create a vast No-Go zone for US aircraft carriers covering the entire South China Sea.
In fact these islands and silo's make it impossible for the US military to project power over mainland China.
Love the blog post's "land reclamation efforts" spin. Reminds me of renaming illegal aliens as "dreamers".
No need to "project" anything over mainland China, all that is necessary is to crash their economy, and all of the hundreds of millions of unemployed will take care of the rest.
" You False Flagged sunk my battle ship,"
It's almost as if the US was trying, desperately, to start a hot war somewhere.
Need distraction from the coming economic collapse. Must find an enemy to distract the average American moron.
+100
it's that predictable.
@ Obama, Knobel PeaceNick...
Spreading democracy one gunboat at a time.
Scuba diving AFTER the Chinese/USA war :-)
With TPP moving forward, the U.S. needs to secure this important shipping lane. That's probably one reason.
What does TPP have to do with it? The only Asian signatories to TPP are Japan (a dead civilization), Philippines and Malaysia (minor players in anything), Singapore and Brunei (tiny principalities). How much shipping do you really think TPP will produce in the China Sea?
The only purpose of TPP is to canibalize less powerful countries as, for example, Singapore can now canibalize Malaysia.
Well, that's one way to get the shooting war started.
Gulf of Tonkin style
Speaking of the Gulf of Tonkin, did you know that the Vietnamese Government has asked the US Navy to return to Cam Rahn Bay? The Philippines also wants us back at Subic and Clark.
Obama is the worlds all time fucked up idiot. He sucks multiple dicks on the golf course while risking war on multiple fronts with thoses who play chess for keeps.
Poking a russian bear and a chinese bear at the same time, great idea.
Chinese bear???????? WTF?
Is US poking a Panda?
I am sure if it's a male Panda, Obama would let it poke him.
I just don't see a major conflict between the US and China. What would every major US retailer and "manufacturer" (e.g., Apple) do if suddenly they could not do business with China? Sure it would be good for Americans as a whole in the long-run, but the government doesn't work for Americans as a whole. The MIC may have a lot of pull, but not that much.
There's always Mattel and some retired US workers ready to fill in the gap, eh?
Scratch Mattel. "Mattel Group manufactures 74% of its products in China and the remainder scattered across Indonesia, Malaysia, Mexico and Thailand." http://blog.euromonitor.com/2013/04/mattel-worlds-largest-toy-maker-move...
That's why I said "retired". Those are the guys that used to hold US jobs years ago. You know, the good old days, when he had it before we lost it. But you sure are right about now. Unfortunately.
The lag time between sudden loss of overseas supply (in time of conflict this would be sudden), and establishment of a local capacity to meet that loss is significant, and will be even more of a headache since the supply imbalance is so great.
If China (or one of the many other "Sweat Shop" economies that the West is dependent upon for "cheap" goods and services) "turned off the tap" so to speak, the immediate (and medium term) consequences would be severe - probably so severe that the longer term effects would be unpredictable (but probably very bad).
Using the situation in Russia right now as a model would be unrealistic, since the Russians are considerably more resilient (as we are now seeing), in comparison with the West, where the "Sanctions" seem to be having a greater effect on the EU economy than the Russian economy!
"Law of Unintended Consequences" much?? :-)
You don't see the big picture. The Satanic Oligarchs want to depopulate the planet and burn everything to the ground so they can rebuild it the way they want. WWIII is the perfect vehicle to do this, we're all being set up by their puppets for our doom.
Unless the US is sailing there to begin an all-out attack or to start a nuclear war, then they wasted US taxpayer's money once again. You couldn't begin to guess what that silly outing costs. Call your Congressman/woman. Make sure you get your money's worth. Start digging your shelter. The buck stops here (as well as the missiles!) lol.
Are there any hospitals built on those islands yet?
Anyone know where you buy lead codpieces online ?
No, but you can get cod leadpieces at any factory fish farm.
http://www.wolfxray.com/images/slideshow/9_8.jpg
Would these do? If you are handy with a needle & thread I'm sure you could knock something up "custom made" to suit! :-)
Be aware that a full-length lead apron is HEAVY! Ask any Radiographer just how heavy these feel, after a 5 hour stint in a fluoroscopy unit, and your answer may be pretty "direct"!! :-)
A cupie doll to the lucky sailor that scores the first Dongfeng hit. Presented by President Xi Jinping himself.
http://fortune.com/2015/09/03/china-parades-new-carrier-killer-missile-w...
Ever known someone to fk with a mean dog, just trying to get as close as possible, daring the dog to bite? And then act all high and mighty and yell bad dog when they do get bitten? And then the dog usually ends up getting shot because the psychopath just can't handle the thought of someone not likeing them or testing their godliness.
And then the dog usually ends up getting shot because [by] the psychopath . . . .
Isn't this the M.O. of the USA?? They provoke and provoke until the country being harassed does something back and then the USA brings the wrath of Satan down on their head. They've been trying to do this with Russia now for almost two years and since Russia hasn't taken the bait I guess they decided to fuck with China as well . . . got to get that war started.
harassing both china and russia at the same time does not look so smart. unless they're suicidal.
Or unless it's the plan.
http://redefininggod.com/understanding-the-nwo-strategy/
China's military is also a huge bureaucracy - with a lot of political clout, and lot of money, looking for a bigger role to play in their own govenrment and world.
i don't get why obama has his panties in such a bunch of this. i mean, according to his calculus, a few melted glaciers are gonna roll right over those fuckers in the next few years.
Great point. The lack of consistency reflects the fact that the point of "climate change fear mongering" isn't related to any actual threat, but instead to control more of the economy.
Why is global warming now climate change, it seems to be a catch all phrase? But what do I know.
It's not not the monkey, read this CFR report
http://www.cfr.org/china/revising-us-grand-strategy-toward-china/p36371
Fait accompli, motherfuckers.
It's called
"gunboat diplomacy".
The Chinese and Asians (and others) are well familiar with it
from the days when US and European naval vessels would bombard coastal cities
to force submission to Western policies.
If the US wishes to provoke animosities, this is one arrogant way to do it.
Worked against the natives armed with rifles.It stopped very suddenley with the Yangtse incident,
when the native aquired modern artillery.
As I said many times before,Admirals and Generals are always ready to fight the last war,
rarely the coming one.I doubt there will be time for a learning curve in future conflicts..
"I doubt there will be time for a learning curve in future conflicts."
Most important thought posted on ZH this week! +1000
How the hell uses gunboats which are outdated in modern warfare who are sitting ducks to Chinese & Russian Nuclear subs. Amateur night with the Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC.
Not to mention Russia's new EMP weapon, shut um down in a split second.
"Who the hell uses gunboats which are outdated...who are sitting ducks?"
Hmm, kinda like the battleships left in Pearl Harbour despite all kinds of warnings...it's almost like they want one to get sunk...
You had better raise the limit on your credit card before you go sailing your boats, America. Given that you are completely bankrupt it behooves me to understand how you are going to pay for the fuel bill let alone the wages of employees? Better make sure you are flying at least three sheets to the wind before you set sail, sailor.
This is wreckless of Washington. China can just say, for each US ship entering China claimed territory, we sell 1b of UST. Per day.
That is an excellent idea, they should do this. As well as on any days they print false stories, shit they might run out of treasuries quite fast.
Welcome to the U.S.S.A, winning friends and influencing enemies across the globe. Can't wait to see how we get globally embarrassed with this one.
On another note: Some China's fake islands look like amoebas. Which, by the way, are smarter than the single brain cell organisms running Washington.
The Muslim rag praying negro doesn't understand who owns the United States of America national debt. On November 5, 2015. Obamba is going to offer entitlements if China buys repackaged investment notes.
Major Foreign Holders - Department of the Treasury
The plan to postpone the November 2016 elections because of the impending war against Russia/Syria/China/Iran/the Martians/white supremacists/tea party/who-knows-wtfck-else is well advanced, and will be in place.
dup
China.
Time to end this "shit show" and pull out the nuclear option of 1 trillion grade F- U.S. Ts!....
I see lots of 0ssss on the end of that "1"... And it won't be pretty when you jettison the rest of what ya got!
You're going to war with "round eye" anyway whether you want it or not!... But you already knew that just like your Eastern European counterpart.
Might as well make the ride getting there as uncomfortable for them as possible!!!
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I see you really understand economics...
FYI. The US and the EU BUYS damned near everything China makes. That means we are the wallet and they are the register. Even a minor skirmish lasting for one month asnd the Chinese will be fucked eight ways from Sunday because the wallet will be closed. We don't need to buy Chinese goods. We do it because they are cheap but we are not forced to buy them. The Chinese ABSOLUTELY MUST sell their goods to us or their economy will shit itself and their will be riots in the streets withing ~36 hours. I believe its called regime change at the hands of ~800 MILLION Chinese citizens.
And before you yap about the US debt they hold. B I G fucking deal. They hold ~5% of our debt now. Oh my so scary...
The Chinese are in a box and everybody knows it.
the chinese hate zionazi usa much more than they hate their own .gov. the chinese .gov will exploit that sentiment to the fullest when the time is right.
on the other hand, it appears the only way to rouse the usa public from their ssri drugged state is to take away something precious like stocked walmart shelves. unfortunately for the usa .gov, the people will blame the zionazi usa .gov and not the chinese.
Alphie
And just what would happen if we provoked just such an entanglement with the largest manufacturer of our computer equipment and semiconductors. Not to mention all the other areas of steel manufacturing and sophisticated forgings we also passed out to both India and China since 9/11...
Some pleasure reading for ya delusional Jew swine!
P.S.
Watch what 5% can do to a "world reserve currency" who's economy depends on those outflows of it's currency because it has outsourced all of it's most important manufacturing and infrastructure?
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Yes because the US has never made or manufactured anything and there is now a federal law that states "under no circumstance can an American or American company make anything ever again"
Please...
And BTW. Look at how much manufacturing the US is actually pulling back from China these days. I know that you don't understand the word "research" but you might not look like such a dunce in public if you were to find out what it means...
And another BTW. You look like a 5 yr old playing the "the Jew card" at every opportunity. Completely fucking ridiculous because a) I'm not one and b) it seems to be a convenient argument for erectile dysfunction...
Even the falsified stats from Uncle Scam belie your statement.
From your comments you know nothing about manufacturing.
The skill sets required to return manufacting to the US are retired, or already passed on.
Many things are never written down either, found by trial and error, or more simply put,
by experience
You have no concept of the breadth of industrial base required to manufacture even the simplest
things.
As to China, they know the true state of the US, the falling demand and contracting consumer.
Its merely a matter of time before they write off their US markets.
And BTW. Look at how much manufacturing the US is actually pulling back from China these days.
Which industries are you referencing here that need to be mentioned???...
If you are speaking to the industrial areas that have recently been hit by unexpected foul play through the use of pyrotechnics I'd like to see what we are helping to replace after those facilities were sabotaged... I know VW lost big on the explosion in Tianjin did that also include GM????....
So dazzle me Zionist whore!
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Oh so sassy! Look at you Nemo all tough and shit...
Like I said, apparently the word "research" doesn't exist in your lexicon...
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Is U.S. Manufacturing Coming Back? - Inbound
U.S. consumers could see more products labeled "Made in the USA" on store shelves in the near future. As labor rates in China soar and manufacturers discover unforeseen complications at overseas production facilities, many businesses are revisiting the advantages of keeping operations close to home.
Logisticshttp://www.inboundlogistics.com/cms/article/is-us-manufacturing-coming-b...
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Record number of manufacturing jobs returning to America
Made in the U.S.A. is hot again, and the number of manufacturing jobs that are returning to the U.S. — or coming to the U.S. for the first time — from overseas has hit a record level.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-flips-the-script-on-jobs-reshoring-f...
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JL Audio brings manufacturing back from China
Even before the recent financial crisis in China, JL Audio decided it could improve the quality of its products by moving assembly to Miramar, where it already has a workforce of 240 making car and home audio systems.
"We realized how profitable it could be and how efficient," said Robert Oxenhorn, director of finance and accounting for JL Audio. "We're bringing more and more production back to the states."
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/careers/fl-audio-manufacturer-expan...
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Manufacturing moving from China to US: survey
ashington (AFP) - Large manufacturers are increasingly moving production back to the United States from China, according to a new report by The Boston Consulting Group released Thursday.
In the third annual survey of US-based senior executives at manufacturing companies with annual sales of at least $1 billion, the number of respondents who said their companies were currently reshoring to the US from China increased 20 percent from a year ago.
The executives who said "Yes, we are already actively doing this" rose to roughly 16 percent in the "Made in America, Again" survey in August from 13 percent a year earlier and seven percent in the first survey in the series, in February 2012.
https://news.yahoo.com/manufacturing-moving-china-us-survey-065217238--f...
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Should I go on?
So why is manufacturins as a whole still contracting ?
The exceptions prove the rule ?
Only in kindergarten.
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Meaningless correlation. AKA correlation is not causation.
However, if you'd like to contact me once you've made it out of Kindergarten, we can discuss then.
Thats a lump not a correlation.
Probably in your diaper sonny.
Carry on making a fool of yourself though, we need so amusement around here.
I love your sources Alphie...
There's a reason I selected CNN to point out the problems the MIC has been having with chips since they handed it over to the Chinese!...
Remove "Packaged and prepared food meals" from your manufacturingnumbers then let stalk. Murikistan, the only country to win a war with frozen chicken dinners, junk food and ice cream! lol!!!!
Yes, you should go on...
Because it will take a few more pages before all of your vaunted return of U.S. mfg. even registers a blip on the radar of the Large Scale manufacturing that has been lost over the period of 30+ years in the United States...
That is not to suggest of course, that large-scale manufacturing and the attendant upward-mobility 'real' jobs that go with said renaissance, cannot at some point return to a level that can sustain a functioning middle class, but it does point to the Fact that what has been sold away for decades running, isn't going to return overnight...
Consuelo
Once you let those technical manufacturing jobs get away rarely if ever do they return because the economies of scale and per unit labor costs involved can no longer be competitive enough to bring them back again.
Couple that with the fact that the longer the duration of the absense of those skilled jobs that left starting 15 and 20 years ago from the U.S. and the base that trained it is now either semi or fully retired or involved in new manufacturing ventures abroad with their R&D seeking new talent now firmly in place in India, Malaysia and China and the damage becomes endemic...
This doesn't even begin to address the intellectual with the capital flight that occurs with Universities where the manufacturing base resides. Why do the Chinese and Indians need to come to American anymore for their education when they have it all in their home countries without the need for a second or third language?
America, for now produces and exports a lot of food. Their food. Just saying.
Yeah, this is going to end well.
My question is, will this be world war 3 or world war 4 ?
Obama is being setup for world war 3 in Syria, so when China starts blowing up the US Navy because it waited until China set up their defenses in the south china sea before establishing a presence and blocking anything; it that world war 4 or just another part of world war 3 ?
There, fixed it for ya, Tyler.
lol. BITCH PARADE. show off last years bling. while anybody still cares
If the Chinese are smart (and believe me they ARE smart), they could use such an "in your face" display of force as a very convenient ELINT exercise, especially if they were to stir things up a little vis a vis minor gunboat interactions (just to provoke use to fire control systems).
Mind you they probably know the capabilities / performance specs / performance limitations of ALL US systems by now . . . . .
The largest military NATO exercises now underway in Eastern Europe till November 4... Now potential U.S. ground forces in Syria to salvage what is left of their ISIS project which has killed more than quarter million Syrians with Russian paramilitary and Iranian Bader and Hezbollah to "meet and greet" them with an ever expanding umbrella of Russian capable Air Force hovering over there heads to return the favor.... And now we want to fuck with China's man made bases!...
With all this activity who is going to hold down the fort(s) in 1,100 something U.S. military bases worldwide?... Sure hope the CIA has plenty of contractors willing and ready to support all these marvelous effort(s) should military personnel either get "whacked" or should they decide to go AWOL?!!!
Like my grand pappy use to tell me... Son 'the eyes are bigger than the stomach" so don't try to eat with them when you know ya can't!
Must be a Zionist Jew (more of everything) magic trick sorta like QE infinity/ZIRP and NIRP that doesn't work either!!!
"In Major Escalation, US To Sail Warships Around China's Man-Made Islands In South Pacific"
China will be provoked to defend the territorial integrity of those islands. All hell breaks loose.
Fighting two major powers in two separate theaters is bullish for business. Glad we have such stable minded, pragmatic individuals with their fingers on the nuclear trigger.
when fed dollar collapses and yuan is defacto currency in this region.. what will these ships pay with for refueling etc.
Be funny as balls if they just hit those ships with a mini-EMP and leave them stranded there for months as they have to negotiate with China to get the parts necessary to fix them.
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Can you imagine all those Chinese ships bobbing around out there? Oh my!
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Boeing Unveils Amazing, Slightly Terrifying New Electromagnetic Pulse Weapon
With pinpoint accuracy, this electronic warfare drone can black out opposing forces at will.
A CHAMP-ion idea
The weapon in question: Boeing's "CHAMP," short for Counter-electronics High-powered Microwave Advanced Missile Project. It's essentially the old nuclear electromagnetic pulse weapon that we used to worry so much about -- but without the nuclear part. CHAMP carries a small generator that emits microwaves to fry electronics with pinpoint accuracy. It targets not nations or cities but individual buildings, blacking out their electronics rather than blowing up physical targets (or people).
What makes CHAMP even more interesting is that, unlike a nuclear electromagnetic pulse weapon, which fires once, blacking out entire nation-states, CHAMP can fire multiple times, pinpointing and blacking out only essential targets. This would permit, for example, taking down radar defenses in a hostile state, while saving the electrical grid that supports the civilian population. In a 2012 test flight in Utah, a single CHAMP was reported to have blacked out seven separate targets in succession, in one single mission.
http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/05/24/boeing-unveils-electrom...
@ Alphahammer:
"... while saving the electrical grid that supports the civilian population."
It's just so wonderfull, how humane warfare has become, how concerned Washington has become about the wellbeing of foreign countries' civilians.
It's clearly visible in the statistics (admitted: rough estimates):
Let's make an all-out effort to reach perfection: 0% military, 100% civilians
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Hey I'm anti war as the next guy, but that dude above suggested that the Chinese EMP our ships. I kindly pointed out that we (the US) can easily do that to their entire island/ship thingy and apparently that struck a nerve...
Here's the problem whether you want to believe it or not -- the workld MUST have a policeman. There are so many countries that are run by assholes (basically all of them to include the US) and therefore without a policeman knocking heads -- the world would have ended by now. I'm dead serious. The oceans would all be floating garbage dumps, banking would have ended due to complete criminality, there would be no building industry nor homes worth more than whatg you could scavenge. I could go on but the FACT is somebody has to be a leader and that is the US. Now, Russia could step it up if they'd like but I'll ask three questions.
1) How many Syrian refugees are in Moscow?
2) Where was Russia when the Fukushima disaster happened?
3) Where was Russia when Haiti was reduced to rubble?
Answer away.
Sorry alphahammer but what you are asking for is utopian at best. Any power arrogant enough to be a "world policeman" would have to be an empire that has passed its height - ie one soon to fade from the scene due to massive hubris.
Now who does that remind me of....
The world doesn't need a corrupt policemen. Maybe a good analogy with our police force, lots of civilian casualties, no morals, a big sense of entititlement, and poor decision makers.
1. None. They're too smart to take refugees created by the USA Govt.
2. I don't know. Probably in the same place they were when Westinghouse was building those POS reactors. BTW, Japan is a US puppet.
3. Haiti? Ok, where was the US when Eastern Ukraine was reduced to rubble?
"The world MUST have a policeman", to that I agree.
But not the kind of corrupt, self-serving, tyrannical, exploitative, agressive and violent policeman like the US.
Actually, we already HAVE a global policeman, altough the US has turned it into one of their puppets as well: the United Nations. Just as we already HAVE a global judge, although the US doesn't want to recognize its legitimacy: International Court of Justice in The Hague.
The country that stands in the way of the International Rule of Law more than any other, is the US.
Therefore, the US is least of all qualified to be the global policeman you're talking about. An emperor may crown himself as such (like Napoleon), but a policeman needs to be appointed and follow orders (from the UN in this case, without manipulating those orders backstage).
Checklist for WWIII:
Europe/ME: Check. Asia: Check. North America: Coming to a "theater" near you.
Don't believe my post above. Click on the link below.
http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Pages/tics...
I wonder when Putin emailed barry to get this done. Probably while moochelle was making sandwiches for good ole Vlad.
Global warming sea level will take care of 'em.
the rematch in the pacific will not go as easily as it did against a tiny island nation with no resources. the us military has become israelified. it can't win a war against people who have the means to shoot back.
One little incident and Obama will be sucking Chinese cock again pretty soon.
Thats what Eurasia is for US. Something to ship around till the fuel is gone.
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Boy this really chaps the ass of all those Alex Jones conspiracy dimwits now doesn't it...
Say what? Well isn't Alex Jones and his dunce army always yapping about the "US ability to control weather and create earthquakes with HAARP"
Oh really? Then why does the US need to sail warships out there? Why not just let the Chinese spend $billions and then the US fires up HAARP and gives the Chinese a wee little "storm"?
Lol...
i wonder how many parts on those ships can only be supplied by chinese manufacturers
China may have been fearful of the US/Nato sometime ago, but years of hopelesness in the middle east have given China a different perspective of who and what the US can /not do. China today is not affraid of the US/Nato as they have Russia /Iran as partners and this says alot.
To use State Dept language, is this constructive action? I this de-escalation? I'm confused. What is US intentions? US actions are not consistent with their language. Hypocrits!
USSA in desperate moves to save the Empire pushing through the "free trade" agreements excluding the BRICS, but it's all futile - they cannot take on China, Russia and Iran at the SAME time! Game over - and the BRICS + Iran realize this very well.
China may have been fearful of the US/Nato sometime ago, but years of hopelesness in the middle east have given China a different perspective of who and what the US can /not do. China today is not affraid of the US/Nato as they have Russia /Iran as partners and this says alot.
Chinese should mine the surounding waters for the US Navy...would also be nice to see the run aground and then the Chinese can claim salvage and strip their fucking ships....time for the Chinese to take down the US dollar and dismantle these war criminals.....
Right, US, go ahead and poke China like you poke everyone else in the eye.
Some day the US will be cut down to size and then the world will remember how you were and poke you in the eye.
Ships are sitting ducks, another stupid move by stupid war mongers.
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Dhamm son...
Yes because an artificial island is extremely maneuvarable...
I'm guessing you were a naval strategist right?
islands might not be...but subs are.
Have fun Yanks.
Other than environmental issues, I see no valid reason for the US (or anyone) to object to China puting buildings on its islands.
It's just another show of "America's Nobel Peace Prize winning commander in chief's" agressive character.
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Earth to um errr...
Because a shit ton of OTHER countries are telling China that it is NOT their water or whatever to put an island on in the first place... I guess you missed that part.
Hey, feces breath.
A shit ton of OTHER commentors here are telling you to STFU and yet you continue to babble on
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Torunaga: "There are no 'mitigating circumstances' when it comes to rebellion against a sovereign lord."
Anjin San: "Unless you win." -- Shogun, James Clavell
Drilling rights? anyone..
Sounds like an opportunity for some of those Russian planes to have an invited fly-past of The Spratlys with their electronic jamming equipment switched ON, like what happened in the Black Sea with SS Donald Cook (aka Donald Duck).
Followed swiftly by a fly-past of Chinese fighter bombers just to rub the message home.
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Hey I watched that video. The funny thing was that as the "story" goes, all the electronics were shut down on the Cook. But the really funny thing was the video was filmed on a smartphone/digital video camera. Now, somebody correcct me if I'm wrong, aren't the cameras electronic devices?
So, the question is this. How could all the electonics be shut down -- yet an electronic camera filmed the event?
Oh my.
You might want to ask that question of some of the US sailors who mutinied. There's probably a plausible explanation.
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Yea I'd like to do that. Can you present them? Go ahead. We can wait.
Dear 5 weeks and 1 day:
Why should I be able to present mutineers? I mean, it's not as though I'm in the US Navy FFS.
But the incident did reach the media as I recall, so Google is your fiend.
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Ok thanks. You can't present any. Your point really stands on its own then doesn't it...
1) Complete electronic shut down of Cook filmed with electronic cameras. Hmm.
2) Reports of crewman abandoning ship. No names or actual crewmembers actually found, presented, come forward or tried by the Navy for abandoning their post. Hmm.
3) Note to FSB -- M U S T T R Y H A R D E R.
You'll be claiming next that it couldn't have happened because it would have also shut down all the electronics on board the Russian plane.
That might raise a difficult question or two for you about how any system of that nature can work.
"You'll be claiming next that it couldn't have happened because it would have also shut down all the electronics on board the Russian plane."
No. I won't ever claim that. The reason? Because the Russian plane didn't shut down anything anywhere. But great story bro...
There's a certain illogic in your comment if you can see it.
Big Deal....like the Chinese will be scared? Chinese Silkworm missles will take out American ships fairly easily. It's fairly comical watching America flex it's muscles. They will not fight...one nuke going off will destroy the stock market and the sheeple will scramble. Cannot lose control...that's what this is all about...the illusion of control. The US cannot lose control of the sheep. That's all ZATO has...the illusion of control!
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I see another noble laureate in economics has weighed in. Let me sum this for your edification.
The US and EU BUY almost everyhting China makes. We can stop buying for just one month and they will be bankrupt. Then ~800 MILLLION pissed off Chinese citizens will enter the CCP HQ with more than a few pitchforks. Capisce?
I think some high ranking Chinese politicians need to get religion on this subject -- and damned fast...
At least China did not kick out an indigenous population to build their base...
http://www.theguardian.com/stage/2012/feb/15/diego-garcia-few-man-fridays
Ddin't you just read the article, it's obvious they didn't recognize their claim on the island too!
Thanks for the link to the Pentagon notification of such an action. At least give us the Face Book page of some deepwater port whore in the know.
This is all perfect strategy by Putin & Xi. However, the Wolfowitz War planners too, have this figured out, but... Figuring it out and actually confronting it or implementing something more than peacock feather showing, is an entirely different story.
Well don't be surprised if their ships go dark like this.....
"Meanwhile, the Russian Su-24 that buzzed the USS Donald Cook carried neither bombs nor missiles but only a basket mounted under the fuselage, which, according to the Russian newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta [2], contained a Russian electronic warfare device called Khibiny.
As the Russian jet approached the US vessel, the electronic device disabled all radars, control circuits, systems, information transmission, etc. on board the US destroyer. In other words, the all-powerful Aegis system, now hooked up - or about to be - with the defense systems installed on NATO’s most modern ships was shut down, as turning off the TV set with the remote control.
The Russian Su-24 then simulated a missile attack against the USS Donald Cook, which was left literally deaf and blind. As if carrying out a training exercise, the Russian aircraft - unarmed - repeated the same maneuver 12 times before flying away.
After that, the 4th generation destroyer immediately set sail towards a port in Romania."
http://www.voltairenet.org/article185860.html
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BBBWWWAAAHHHHH!!!!!
You still believe that? Apparently you haven't seen the videos. Do yourself a favor. Go watch them before you look like dolt posting this stuff.
What videos, idiot?
Ones showing the Aegis system not disabled.
The water off the starbord side lab tested out to be Black Sea water. Someone held up a notebook that said "USS Donald Cook" on it, so there's no dobt what ship we're on.
The screen on the monitor on the bridge read "WE ARE NOT DISABLED."
Were you borns this stupid or did you have to go to stupid school?
Uh, yeah. I saw the rogues galley of "authors".
Neocon logic: If a little war won't save the economy, then maybe a great big war will. If you are going to try, go all the way.
Send the USS Enterprise.
Haha...
Enlist the aid of the Klingons first.
The BIG Question is: how long will it take for china to print off some new world maps with no israel on them lol
bye bye zionists
So one of those Kinetic rock Missiles 5 miles off shore equals Rouge Wave, Yes No ?
whats the technical term for sending a few assets in harms way to provoke an enemy.. I'm drawing a blank here...
Gambit. But that's a chess move.
Obozo the clown doesn't play chess remember?
This is just more slapstick. That's about the height of his intellectual prowess.
if the Chicom contractors are smart........they will build perfect surfing reefs and a runway big enough for 747s.
Luxury surf resorts are far more lucrative than offshore oil extraction, ask Sheldon Adelson.
Imagine a whole Island of perfect surfing breaks and beautiful young Chinese capitalist girls in bikinis.
My own feeling is the the Chinese Navy will "USS Cowpens" the American flotilla as it steams on the Road to Mandalay.
If you don't understand, google "USS Cowpens/Liaongong Aircraft carrier"
Well, if nothing else, the Chinese are real assholes for destroying such beautiful atolls.
Their territorial claims in this area honestly do seem ridiculous and do seem contrary to accepted international boundaries.
On the other hand, it's pretty clear they are just doing this as a provocation.
Hopefully, Washington will avoid escalation and strike a deal to remove some military bases surrounding China in exchange for a formal agreement on territorial claims in the South China Sea.
Otherwise, Vietnam and the Phillipines really look like implicit client states and China with a sphere of influence.
the chinese should take some ships and ram them... or sail within 12 miles of CA and Hawaii...
What?
With all the vilifications in the MSM, I expected to see at least on Atoll/Island shaped like a Skull or a Hammer/Sickle Emblem...
Becuz
Satan America owns the whole world
&
can screw anyone
When the half witted fucking cock sucking goons in the Whitehouse and State dept wake up to the fact hat China knows perfect;y well that it was the fucking cock- sucking fathers of the cunts there now who decided it would be a good idea to blockade Japanese shipping in 1940 to force them to war and led to Pearl Harbor.
Chinese are not so fucking stupid as to let the insane cunts in Washington get a fucking half chance at blockading the south China sea , where all its trade passes. as that would be the same fucking result that Japan got.
And look at what a fucked up Washington fucking poodle that turned out to be,