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NATO Talks Tough On Troop Deployment As Kremlin Calls West's Bluff
For years, NATO has relied upon tough talk and promises of support for its member nations in order to reinforce an image of invincibility.
That image is supported by the implicit backing of the US military and Washington has been keen to perpetuate it in the past 48 hours by presenting the straw man argument that Moscow is set to inexplicably bomb Turkey (and if you follow geopolitics you know that that makes absolutely no sense at all) and so the West must do it what it has to in order to support its friends in Ankara in the face of "Soviet" (and we use that term on purpose because that's how this is being pitched now by Western media) aggression.
To be sure, keeping up appearances was easy in the wake of Russia’s annexation of Crimea. It was simply a matter of saying publicly that the West wouldn’t allow Moscow to overrun Kiev and re-establish the Soviet Union.
But it doesn’t take a foreign policy genius or a lion-hearted NATO general to maintain that line.
That is, some of this was just posturing, because no matter what one wants to say about The Kremlin’s support for the separatists at Donetsk, Moscow wasn’t and isn’t about to invade every state in the Balkans which means that NATO’s excuses for stationing heavy artillery in Poland (to cite just one example) and for conducting very public war games that look quite a bit like preparations for a Ukrainian invasion, are largely bogus.
Well, now that Washington is scrambling to find the right spin tactic to explain why Russia has done to ISIS in a week what the US hasn't been able to do in over a year, NATO is now going all-in on the "we'll defend Turkey" narrative even though i) no one is attacking Turkey, and ii) Ankara is waging a horribly bloody civil war on its own people with NATO's blessing. Here's AP:
NATO talked tough Thursday about Moscow's expanding military activity in Syria, but the U.S.-led alliance's chief response to the Russian airstrikes and cruise missile attacks was a public pledge to help reinforce the defenses of member nation Turkey if necessary.
"NATO is able and ready to defend all allies, including Turkey, against any threat," alliance secretary-general Jens Stoltenberg declared at the onset of a meeting of NATO defense ministers.
The meeting attended by U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter and counterparts from NATO's other 27 countries was overshadowed by concerns about Russia's recent military actions in Syria. On Wednesday, Russian warships fired a volley of cruise missiles in the first combined air-and-ground assault with Syrian government troops since Moscow began its military campaign in the country last week.
U.S. officials said Thursday that some of those missiles missed their targets and landed in Iran.
Over the weekend, Turkey reported back-to-back violations of its airspace by Russian warplanes.
Stoltenberg said NATO had already increased "our capacity, our ability, our preparedness to deploy forces, including to the south, including in Turkey, if needed."
However, pressed about what NATO precisely intended to do to aid Turkey, which shares a border with Syria, Stoltenberg told a news conference the mere existence of a beefed-up alliance response force, as well as a new and highly nimble brigade-sized unit able to deploy within 48 hours, may suffice.
"We don't have to deploy the NATO Response Force or the spearhead force to deliver deterrence," Stoltenberg said. "The important thing is that any adversary of NATO will know that we are able to deploy."
Oh, ok. "Any adversary of NATO will know that we are able to deploy." Well you know what NATO? You have an "adversary" that doesn't seem to understand that and they are called "ISIS," and either you are incapable of eradicating a rogue band of Nike-wearing militants, or else you're not really trying, and if the latter is the case, then the world needs to start asking serious questions about who the "bad" guys are here.
We'll close with the following from ... well, let's just be honest, from Russia (via RT) and from Maria Zakharova, who is quietly turning into quite the geopolitical powerplayer:
Vladimir Putin’s press secretary has said that the excuses used by NATO to move its infrastructure to Russian borders were nothing but camouflage and warned that none of such steps would be left unanswered.
“An invented excuse about the suggested threat coming from Russia is possibly just camouflage used to disguise the plans to further expand NATO toward our borders,” RIA Novosti quoted Dmitry Peskov as saying.
“We are talking about a buildup, there have been statements about larger contingent, we are talking about an increase of military presence. And it is military presence practically near the Russian borders,” he said, adding that this project was not new and that it could cause no other feelings but regret.
“Of course, any plans to bring NATO’s military infrastructure closer to the Russian Federation lead to reciprocal steps needed to restore the necessary parity,” Peskov said.
Earlier Thursday, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg announced the alliance’s plans to boost its Response Force and set up two more headquarters in Hungary and Slovakia. Stoltenberg admitted that this will be the biggest reinforcement since the end of the Cold War as six more, smaller headquarters had already appeared in Eastern Europe.
Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova commented on NATO’s buildup of forces in Eastern Europe, saying that these steps were not contributing to peace and stability on the continent.
“First of all, we need to hear and understand the position of those who take such actions. They need to tell us about their goals and objectives so that we could comment on them. So far, none of the latest events added stability to the European continent. On the contrary, this stability is being put in jeopardy,” Zakharova said.
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the new soviet union - Israel, USA, England, France, Italy, Germany, Spain, Australia, Canada ... and we'll throw in Puerto Rico, they always feel left out -
You forgot Poland.
Poland is not a member-just a cheap whore to service the members.
It absolutely makes me blow a gasket to see Canada in there, but sadly it's TRUE.
Spin up all Missiles Yes Sir Captain... standing by for Launch code Confirmation sir.
The code is HRC dot com. /s
What I'd like to know, is where ISIS in Syria, keep getting all those TOW missles?
Ebay.mil
or
Amazon drone delivery (test system for heavy parcels)
They invented them.
Olly North is back?
Woooooo! Rus Imperial War Machine™
Such an unenviable brain.
Boo, zombie in comments section!
NATO - Nations Attempting Total Obfuscation
When baby bush said you are either with the terrorists or with us, guess who are now alligned with the terrorits
Complete Hypocrites
A few Russian missiles going astray in Iran is actually to Vlad's psychological advantage, the way a good pitcher will throw one 95mph to the backstop, and the catcher says christ look out, this guy is all over the place today . . .keep yer head down! You never know where it's going!
It was an accident. These things happen. Putin will investigate.
Meanwhile reports from Yemen suggest that a Saudi warship which had been firing on a coastal town held by the houthis et al was destroyed today by a missile. Mm wonder where they are getting this stuff.
http://www.almanar.com.lb/english/adetails.php?eid=233385&cid=23&fromval...
According to your link the houthis launched a committee at the warship and destroyed it.
Expect Putin to imitate this tactic in Syria. Russia launches 4 committees at Aleppo. All the Alleppolanese run for Europe reciting "the horror, the horror."
Red Sea, sunken warship, dead Saudis for fish food.
The makings for some first-rate diving!
NATO who?
A Syrian deployment from Muslim France & Germany?
I think they're more than 50% of the 17-24 draft audience, more the longer it goes.
Maybe that's the EU muslim problem fix, kill 'em off in war.
NATO is simply affirming its pledge and treaty commitment to come to Turkey's aid, if attacked.
Expect Turkey to get attacked, whether by accident or false flag.
Note that false flags are more difficult to stage in the modern era, although the Public can be expected to be gullible and malleable, if US history is a guide.
Can't imagine Nato's pansy army
N.A.T.O. does not have an army. It is comprised of member nation state's armies.
if they start a war with Russia the German people will rise up, crush their government and help Russia... they know what side is best this time around....
But only if "Holy Regime"'s "BrainWasher" turned off.
Probably he doesn't still.
Lot of Germans born in 1946 from Russian fathers.
"NATO Talks Tough On Troop Deployment [...]"
Syria is not a NATO member and the notion that Russia ia about to attack Turkey is off the wall, so NATO should not be involved in any of this and shouldn't be talking about troop deployments. And exactly where FFS?
In any case NATO should be happy that Russia is doing the West's dirty work and cleaning up all them ISIS terrorists & friends in Syria and hopefully Iraq too.
If NATO is talking about a Russian invasion of Turkey, then NATO really is being run by the Washington DC clown show. Our Washington leaders are just foaming at the mouth for a war. Trying all over the world to foment a full on world war, this is now Washington's goal. Today, Washington vowed to sail the US Navy right trough the Chinese bases in the South China Sea. Saying that the US has rights to these wates equal to or superior to China's. So look for things to heat up in the Pacific soon as weel.
Obama is a puppet for Zion, Zion runs all of Washington DC. If you want to know why the US does what it does, you must ask an Israeli or American AIPAC member. because they own our government.
The graphic on the left pretty well sums things up: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CQyn5IoUEAE_XIM.jpg:large
What makes that graphic interesting is that more and more people are sussing out who is pulling the levers behind the curtain.
You forgot to mention those were the leaflets that are being dropped by Russia in Syria. Yea, that's Russia pointing the finger without a press release. I wanna see the comics they didn't go with.
That image was posted in a military forum without any explanation, and since I can't read what's written, I just skimmed the post and didn't even know they were leaflets dropped in Syria.
http://www.russiadefence.net/t4401p465-syrian-civil-war-news-2 (near the bottom of the page)
Here, the link from my op.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3261603/Don-t-make-worse-Helicopters-drop-leaflets-ISIS-rebel-fighters-warning-ahead-huge-Russian-backed-ground-offensive.html
Right on Jack.
The Washington puppet masters believe the Pantygon could still win WWIII and be the only one left standing.
Faced with that option or the inevitable collapse of the Anglo-American Empire, it looks to them like a risk worth taking.
Russian sub, parked 100 miles off of the ZinoState with 200 nuclear warheads says otherwise. This is like Russia holding a gun to the head of the Zino mob boss, telling the ZinoWorld to stand down or the boss gets it.
Never let a crisis go to waste.
We all know there a very small window, closing fast, for the empire to take on the new eurasian
block with any chance of success.
However much they try to provoke a 'surprise' attack, neither Putin or Xi are going to walk into
that trap.So a flase flag it will be, before spring to give them a fig leaf to hide behind.
These loonies belive they,not us of course, can win and survive a nuclear war.
Its twelve o'clock, on the Doomsday clock.
Good luck all.
Nuclear deterrence says no.
But nuclear deterrence just may be what the Russians/China is counting on as they continue their territorial control. If we think they are crazy enough then we pull back and let them go or we push back and put them in a corner where cooler heads do not prevail?
Then there is NK, who could fall off the rocker without notice?????
But I am obviously guessing
Deterence is supposed to be controlled by the sane.
Most every western leader currently is certifiably insane, its pre requisite it appears.
I don't think MAD is a deterrent anymore.
If the Cuban missile crisis was ten on a scale of ten, we are sitting right around 14 now.
I almost wish I didn't know, at least when I've shot at in the past,I could do something.
Given the world’s economic situation, battle for control of energy, petrodollar/Yuan and the US flailing away trying to protect its waning hegemony, things are….concerning.
NATO “is” is mostly the US’s doing in all of this. EU (Germany, France, Spain) are little more cautious in taking a fix position in all of this and are likely hedging their bets in the background. Winters can get chilly there.
Expect a nuclear detonation in a false flag event soon. They will blame it on Russia.
Hopefully the world wakes up to this jewist/israeli death cult before the whole world ends up in war.
Would it be ok if a foreign nation set up an army within the USA to oust the US gov? They don't mind doing it in other nations... so maybe they need a taste of their own medicine.
What an embarrassment to Norway, for its former Prime Minister to sink to warmongering in his current office of Secretary-General of NATO. There is absolutely no need for the man to cry "Wolf!"; he must be doing it out of sheer nastiness.
A carbon copy of Denmark's Rasmussen.
In both cases, probably due to kiddy fiddling. And Bibi has the pictures.
so after US is defeated, which flag will fly on the white house? Russian or Chinese?
Delusions of a totally depraved mind.
Your delusions are curious indeed.
Leave zombie, leave! Hurry!
You desire a Duker echo chamber?
You desire to be lost and forgotten as I see.
What you teaching in your Laengi, bleat'?
Mongolian.
Mostly just for lulz.
won't be a white house at all soon.
Why?
Better to save it as notice to future generetions of mankind what happens if you try to fuck with people from Cold Hell.
won't be a white house at all soon.
It's already not the "white" house. Remember the nice rainbow colors plastered all over it for the court decision in favor of HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE? [And no, you people are not "gay" or "bi" or whatever - you are HOMOSEXUALS - regardless of what you want to call yourselves.]
Wasn't that special???
And for the record . . . I could give two shits about what two adults of the same sex want to do in private. What I can't accept is having that crap shoved down my kids' throats (particularly in school), and my throat, constantly.
>Remember the nice rainbow colors
Actually that was pretty beautiful. Of course if not remember what the exactly the premice was there.
Actually that was pretty beautiful. Of course if not remember what the exactly the premice was there.
Here's the "premise" for you . . . Remember the nice rainbow colors plastered all over it for the court decision in favor of HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE?
I don't said that I don't remembet THAT.
And, by the way, that was a really big step into Hell for US.
And, by the way, that was a really big step into Hell for US.
You bet it was . . . and is a perfect example of how totally screwed up the priorities are in the USA.
And they'll be much worse soon, sadly. Poor children and animals...
the war mongering stars and stripes will go in the garbage , it will be seen as a flag of oppression and death.. too many painful memories... much like the swastika
I don't think either wants us.
So after US is defeated, which flag will fly on the white house?
Israeli!
that's the one that is there now!
there will not be an israel if ww3 starts...
Temporarly
If there is that kind of war, there will not be a White House nor anyone to hoist a flag.
The same flag as always, it will just be of a defeat nation.
The more important question is who will be the next super power?
Spain > France > Britain > US > ???
The US's days as a super power are waning, time for marshal law you spoiled bunch of egotistical chosen ones.
Confederate flag.
Blah, blah, blah, yak, yak, yak . . . . .
Putin: "Bring it on",,
Stolltenberg announced the alliance’s plans to boost its Response Force and set up two more headquarters in Hungary and Slovakia. Stoltenberg admitted that this will be the biggest reinforcement since the end of the Cold War as six more, smaller headquarters already appeared.
The Maginot line. Pure military genius, give that man a medal. I bet the french thought that one up.
And if that is'nt stupid enough for you. They are going to sell the Mistrals now to Egypt, who also has a bit of a terrorist problem. What could go wrong? Ladies,We are in trouble.
Those cocksuckers really should be stopped before it's too late.
Why do everyone of these articles contain the following phrase?
"To be sure, keeping up appearances was easy in the wake of Russia’s annexation of Crimea."
Note to author...Fuck off.
More accurate to read "US annexation of Ukraine without Crimea" and "Donbass secession from ambassador Pyatt".
Agreed.
If Russia Annexed Crimea, the USA annexed Texas.
Squid
Americans are so confident of winning ww3 against much of the rest of world... I wonder why? Once the fighting really starts exceptionalism will melt away... Did US ever really fight a real enemy? ww2 doesn't count... Soviets did most of the damage there.
too funny... can Cameron speak with a Arabic accent?
Senator Dick Black (R) Virgina understands what is happening quite well and if he does then everyone in congress at the very least knows that the USa is up to something completely different than what they are saying. If a US senator can enunciate the facts as laid out here then there is no misunderstanding on the part of the US government. They are lying and plan to pinch Russia and slam Syria. The story given to American citizens is all fabrication and very few must believe the story.
Michae Savage also spells out the truths stated in thismarticle.
I don't thik many thoughtful Americans are being fooled by the statements coming from the administration. That does not mean that a majority of Americans understand because most Americans could not name 2 members of the supreme court nor a single cabinet member. I don't think Obama will every to to critical mass to support a move againt Russia though. If they try all the lies will quickly be pointed out (just not by the MSM).
This is not al all like the mood before Iraq yet the stakes are much higher. Vladimir Putin DOES have weapons of mass distruction...just...like...us.
The only people more silly and stupid than NATO are the Russians because NATO is a colossal hollow pussy and more of a threat to the NATO members by draining away precious limited resources on zillions of incompetent bureaucrats, than on the Russians, who have a severe paranoid persecution complex.
Oh oh, will any look at this? :D
Strange... I don't have that complex. Why? Oh wait, maybe because you give us total bullshit into this topic, eh?
"the Russians, who have a severe paranoid persecution complex"
Playing at being a psychiatrist are you!? Don't give up your day job as a troll.
Paranoid and persecution complexes are irrational states of mind, commonly found in Tel Aviv, Washington DC, London and Brussels ... none of whose psychos have ever been attacked, nor threatened ... at least not in living memeory for most involved. Thus the crazy talk coming out of NATO leaders is irrational paranoia and THEIR persecution mind-set and invented threats are PROJECTIONS.
On the other hand Russia has been threatened for centuries, right through to the present, with plenty of "living memory" of Cold War containment, post-Soviet pillaging and encroachment - with threats - during the last ten years as Russia recovered from the engineered collapse of the Soviet Union.
Putin, personally, is far from having a "mental illness" and because he attracts at least an 85% approval rating, it is fair to say that the majority of Russians are not paranoid, BUT they are well aware of the REAL possibility of being attascked and so have a rational, realistic appraisal of the situation.
I would not be in the least surprized if YOU have a paranoid persecution complex, which you are projecting or displacing onto your imaginary "Russians".
"NATO is able and ready to defend all allies . . ."
Note the use of the word allies instead of members. The mission creep continues . . . towards war. It's inevitable.
Very good catch. I was a lot better at that while Clinton was president and few years after. With that cunning
prick you had to parse all words very carefully.
Just as well that those Patriot missile batteries were withdrawn from the Turk/Syria border in the nick of time.
Left in situ, someone might have taken a potshot at a Russkie jet and then all hell would have broken out.
By the map of Syria it really looks like the Sunnis have two escape routes.If a small
blocking force was put in either area the Sunnis and their merc advisors will be hosed.
Unable to call in air support,airstrikes or airdropped supplies,the small militias will be
left with what they have laying around.And no way to evacuate their wounded.
Modern military formations generally require transport capability.
Fuel is a sine qua non.
Somehow I am reminded of how the A-10's were able to massacre the vehicles leaving Kuwait.
First the supply lines will be cut to Turkey and SA,then the militias will desert,even though there is no
direction to flee.
Good article, but...
"Moscow wasn’t and isn’t about to invade every state in the Balkans which means that NATO’s excuses for stationing heavy artillery in Poland..."
FYI, Poland isn't in the Balkans
NATO POTATOHEADS
Turkey cried when a Russian jet flies into their airspace but they invade Greek airspace on a daily basis. They also did this in Syria. Erdogan demands NATO involvement and also demands EU membership if the EU wants Turkey to stop the flow of immigrants (I assume that currently he does nothing against it). He also calls on Turks in Germany not to integrate. He is not very popular with EU leaders. No European will want to fight to 'save' Turkey from the Russians.
Basically, US is no longer in a position to lecture anybody on law, order and democracy.
WW3 inching slowly
led by chimpBrainedObama
The US would like a nice little war in Europe, it would cripple a number of economic competitors, would be great for the US economy, Banks etc and establish the US as number one in the world, the use of battlefield nukes would be acceptable.
As long as the war does not involve the US homeland and the US involvement mainly involved supplying high tech weapons it can only turn out well for the United States.
someone that gets it.
Containing that confict, will be as successful as Benspankme and subprime though.
So the better option,for a psychopath, will be to nuke europe directly.
Hey NATO or the USA. I hate Assad. Can I have a new Toyota HiLux
"a lion-hearted NATO general" - I nearly spit my coffee on my keyboard.