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"Neutralizing" John Lennon: One Man Against The "Monster"
Submitted by John Whitehead via The Rutherford Institute,
“You gotta remember, establishment, it’s just a name for evil. The monster doesn’t care whether it kills all the students or whether there’s a revolution. It’s not thinking logically, it’s out of control.”—John Lennon (1969)
John Lennon, born 75 years ago on October 9, 1940, was a musical genius and pop cultural icon.
He was also a vocal peace protester and anti-war activist and a high-profile example of the lengths to which the U.S. government will go to persecute those who dare to challenge its authority.
Long before Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden were being castigated for blowing the whistle on the government’s war crimes and the National Security Agency’s abuse of its surveillance powers, it was Lennon who was being singled out for daring to speak truth to power about the government’s warmongering, his phone calls monitored and data files collected on his activities and associations.
For a little while, at least, Lennon became enemy number one in the eyes of the U.S. government.
Years after Lennon’s assassination it would be revealed that the FBI had collected 281 pages of files on him, including song lyrics, a letter from J. Edgar Hoover directing the agency to spy on the musician, and various written orders calling on government agents to set the stage to set Lennon up for a drug bust. As reporter Jonathan Curiel observes, “The FBI’s files on Lennon … read like the writings of a paranoid goody-two-shoes.”
As the New York Times notes, “Critics of today’s domestic surveillance object largely on privacy grounds. They have focused far less on how easily government surveillance can become an instrument for the people in power to try to hold on to power. ‘The U.S. vs. John Lennon’ … is the story not only of one man being harassed, but of a democracy being undermined.”
Indeed, as I point out in my book Battlefield America: The War on the American People, all of the many complaints we have about government today—surveillance, militarism, corruption, harassment, SWAT team raids, political persecution, spying, overcriminalization, etc.—were present in Lennon’s day and formed the basis of his call for social justice, peace and a populist revolution.
For all of these reasons, the U.S. government was obsessed with Lennon, who had learned early on that rock music could serve a political end by proclaiming a radical message. More importantly, Lennon saw that his music could mobilize the public and help to bring about change. Lennon believed in the power of the people. Unfortunately, as Lennon recognized: “The trouble with government as it is, is that it doesn’t represent the people. It controls them.”
However, as Martin Lewis writing for Time notes: “John Lennon was not God. But he earned the love and admiration of his generation by creating a huge body of work that inspired and led. The appreciation for him deepened because he then instinctively decided to use his celebrity as a bully pulpit for causes greater than his own enrichment or self-aggrandizement.”
For instance, in December 1971 at a concert in Ann Arbor, Mich., Lennon took to the stage and in his usual confrontational style belted out “John Sinclair,” a song he had written about a man sentenced to 10 years in prison for possessing two marijuana cigarettes. Within days of Lennon’s call for action, the Michigan Supreme Court ordered Sinclair released.
What Lennon did not know at the time was that government officials had been keeping strict tabs on the ex-Beatle they referred to as “Mr. Lennon.” FBI agents were in the audience at the Ann Arbor concert, “taking notes on everything from the attendance (15,000) to the artistic merits of his new song.”
The U.S. government was spying on Lennon.
By March 1971, when his “Power to the People” single was released, it was clear where Lennon stood. Having moved to New York City that same year, Lennon was ready to participate in political activism against the U. S. government, the “monster” that was financing the war in Vietnam.
The release of Lennon’s Sometime in New York City album, which contained a radical anti-government message in virtually every song and depicted President Richard Nixon and Chinese Chairman Mao Tse-tung dancing together nude on the cover, only fanned the flames of the conflict to come.
The official U.S. war against Lennon began in earnest in 1972 after rumors surfaced that Lennon planned to embark on a U.S. concert tour that would combine rock music with antiwar organizing and voter registration. Nixon, fearing Lennon’s influence on about 11 million new voters (1972 was the first year that 18-year-olds could vote), had the ex-Beatle served with deportation orders “in an effort to silence him as a voice of the peace movement.”
Then again, the FBI has had a long history of persecuting, prosecuting and generally harassing activists, politicians, and cultural figures, most notably among the latter such celebrated names as folk singer Pete Seeger, painter Pablo Picasso, comic actor and filmmaker Charlie Chaplin, comedian Lenny Bruce and poet Allen Ginsberg.
Among those most closely watched by the FBI was Martin Luther King Jr., a man labeled by the FBI as “the most dangerous and effective Negro leader in the country.” With wiretaps and electronic bugs planted in his home and office, King was kept under constant surveillance by the FBI with the aim of “neutralizing” him. He even received letters written by FBI agents suggesting that he either commit suicide or the details of his private life would be revealed to the public. The FBI kept up its pursuit of King until he was felled by a hollow-point bullet to the head in 1968.
While Lennon was not—as far as we know—being blackmailed into suicide, he was the subject of a four-year campaign of surveillance and harassment by the U.S. government (spearheaded by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover), an attempt by President Richard Nixon to have him “neutralized” and deported. As Adam Cohen of the New York Times points out, “The F.B.I.’s surveillance of Lennon is a reminder of how easily domestic spying can become unmoored from any legitimate law enforcement purpose. What is more surprising, and ultimately more unsettling, is the degree to which the surveillance turns out to have been intertwined with electoral politics.”
As Lennon’s FBI file shows, memos and reports about the FBI’s surveillance of the anti-war activist had been flying back and forth between Hoover, the Nixon White House, various senators, the FBI and the U.S. Immigration Office.
Nixon’s pursuit of Lennon was relentless and in large part based on the misperception that Lennon and his comrades were planning to disrupt the 1972 Republican National Convention. The government’s paranoia, however, was misplaced.
Left-wing activists who were on government watch lists and who shared an interest in bringing down the Nixon Administration had been congregating at Lennon’s New York apartment. But when they revealed that they were planning to cause a riot, Lennon balked. As he recounted in a 1980 interview, “We said, We ain’t buying this. We’re not going to draw children into a situation to create violence so you can overthrow what? And replace it with what? . . . It was all based on this illusion, that you can create violence and overthrow what is, and get communism or get some right-wing lunatic or a left-wing lunatic. They’re all lunatics.”
Despite the fact that Lennon was not part of the “lunatic” plot, the government persisted in its efforts to have him deported. Equally determined to resist, Lennon dug in and fought back. Every time he was ordered out of the country, his lawyers delayed the process by filing an appeal. Finally, in 1976, Lennon won the battle to stay in the country when he was granted a green card. As he said afterwards, “I have a love for this country.... This is where the action is. I think we’ll just go home, open a tea bag, and look at each other.”
Lennon’s time of repose didn’t last long, however. By 1980, he had re-emerged with a new album and plans to become politically active again.
The old radical was back and ready to cause trouble. In his final interview on Dec. 8, 1980, Lennon mused, “The whole map’s changed and we’re going into an unknown future, but we’re still all here, and while there’s life there’s hope.”
That very night, when Lennon returned to his New York apartment building, Mark David Chapman was waiting in the shadows. As Lennon stepped outside the car to greet the fans congregating outside, Chapman, in an eerie echo of the FBI’s moniker for Lennon, called out, “Mr. Lennon!”
Lennon turned and was met with a barrage of gunfire as Chapman—dropping into a two-handed combat stance—emptied his .38-caliber pistol and pumped four hollow-point bullets into his back and left arm. Lennon stumbled, staggered forward and, with blood pouring from his mouth and chest, collapsed to the ground.
John Lennon was pronounced dead on arrival at the hospital. He had finally been “neutralized.”
Yet where those who neutralized the likes of John Lennon, Martin Luther King Jr., John F. Kennedy, Malcolm X, Robert Kennedy and others go wrong is in believing that you can murder a movement with a bullet and a madman.
Thankfully, Lennon’s legacy lives on in his words, his music and his efforts to speak truth to power. As Yoko Ono shared in a 2014 letter to the parole board tasked with determining whether Chapman should be released: “A man of humble origin, [John Lennon] brought light and hope to the whole world with his words and music. He tried to be a good power for the world, and he was. He gave encouragement, inspiration and dreams to people regardless of their race, creed and gender.”
Sadly, not much has changed for the better in the world since Lennon walked among us. Peace remains out of reach. Activism and whistleblowers continue to be prosecuted for challenging the government’s authority. Militarism is on the rise, with police acquiring armed drones, all the while the governmental war machine continues to wreak havoc on innocent lives. Just recently, for example, U.S. military forces carried out airstrikes in Afghanistan that left a Doctors without Borders hospital in ruins, killing several of its medical personnel and patients, including children.
For those of us who joined with John Lennon to imagine a world of peace, it’s getting harder to reconcile that dream with the reality of the American police state. For those who do dare to speak up, they are labeled dissidents, troublemakers, terrorists, lunatics, or mentally ill and tagged for surveillance, censorship or, worse, involuntary detention.
As Lennon shared in a 1968 interview:
I think all our society is run by insane people for insane objectives… I think we’re being run by maniacs for maniacal means. If anybody can put on paper what our government and the American government and the Russian… Chinese… what they are actually trying to do, and what they think they’re doing, I’d be very pleased to know what they think they’re doing. I think they’re all insane. But I’m liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That’s what’s insane about it.”
So what’s the answer?
Lennon had a multitude of suggestions.
“If everyone demanded peace instead of another television set, then there’d be peace.”
“Produce your own dream. If you want to save Peru, go save Peru. It’s quite possible to do anything, but not to put it on the leaders….You have to do it yourself. That’s what the great masters and mistresses have been saying ever since time began. They can point the way, leave signposts and little instructions in various books that are now called holy and worshipped for the cover of the book and not for what it says, but the instructions are all there for all to see, have always been and always will be. There’s nothing new under the sun. All the roads lead to Rome. And people cannot provide it for you. I can’t wake you up. You can wake you up. I can’t cure you. You can cure you.”
“Life is very short, and there’s no time for fussing and fighting my friends.”
“Peace is not something you wish for; It’s something you make, Something you do, Something you are, And something you give away.”
“If you want peace, you won’t get it with violence.”
“Say you want a revolution / We better get on right away / Well you get on your feet / And out on the street / Singing power to the people.”
And my favorite advice of all: “All you need is love. Love is all you need.”
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i am the walrus
Lennon had it half right. The world is indeed run by maniacs, but they are not born solely of the body politic. He failed to grasp that the pyschopathic string-pullers at the root of it all are those of the shadowy money power... nothing less.
"Keep you doped with religion, and sex, and T.V.And you think you're so clever and classless and free. But you're still fucking peasants as far as I can see." - John Lennon.
I think he got it.
He got shot...so he was looking down the right rabbit hole. Nowadays it would have been a nailgun, heroin overdose, crashing into a tree going 100 mps with out a transmission or a heart attack/ball cancer.
ELVIS - LIVES
believe nothing
Beat-L the beat of El, tavistock.
They were 4 shitty, basic musicians playing whorehouses in east berlin.
They were groomed...
To use him as a hero is just total bullshit...sorry fans....
Total BS....even his "murder"...Mark David Chap Man... catcher in the Rye? Puh-sleaze!
Ka Bu Ki!
Sorry you are not able to appreciate artists in India due to the shit conditions. Go Cows. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rj4J6i_vw0w
I could play most Beatles songs 30 years ago, on a cheap guitar, right here in Cow land...
And you are BLIND....DEAF and DONE if you cannot extricate pro-gramming...
Wallowing in the mire...
Post an eric clapton song no less... Cocaine....if you wanna hang out, you gotta take her out...let me glorify some COCAINE..,
Yeah, a great cultural hero...how about that...
A boy in a man's body, you make a good keyboard warrior, little else...
'Cocaine is a powerful drug!'
-Rick James
@ORI
Well, on this you are spot on at least. Not sure about the other stuff. But musical genius? OMG... he had some nice lyrics in many tunes - he and Paul. I mean, the English are damn good in English as always. Clever, witting, biting cynicism.
But they were closer to shitty than genius - by far. As the quote above - I am the Walrus... what's after that?
Imagine is pretty trite. Read it; without the music. If it took longer than 10 min. to write that, then he should be shot (oops!). Eleanor Rigby was much more worthy, but Paul did that I believe, and still, not genius stuff by any means.
Genius? Coltrane. Monk... etc. etc.
... and Jimi. Honestly, I find lyrics by early Chicago, CSNY, and Robert Plant to be superior to what The Beatles wrote.
"She Loves You"
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
You think you lost your love
When I saw her yesterday
It's you she's thinking of
And she told me what to say
She says she loves you
And you know that can't be bad
Yes, she loves you
And you know you should be glad
She said you hurt her so
She almost lost her mind
And now she says she knows
You're not the hurting kind
She says she loves you
And you know that can't be bad
Yes, she loves you
And you know you should be glad, ooh
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
And with a love like that
You know you should be glad
You know it's up to you
I think it's only fair
Pride can hurt you too
Apologize to her
Because she loves you
And you know that can't be bad
Yes, she loves you
And you know you should be glad, ooh
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
She loves you, yeah, yeah, yeah
With a love like that
You know you should be glad
With a love like that
You know you should be glad
With a love like that
You know you should be glad
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
Now, if that isn't the initiation of the mindless repetition of words to make music, I don't know what else is. This guy was a freakin' genius to come up with this shit at the time. And it's been copied endlessly...down to where one or two words make the whole song.
In a word OP, YEAH!
I'm not sure what you have against the early rock stars. Today you're ripping on Lennon & the Beatles. The other day it was Zappa and others from Laurel Canyon and how they were really CIA agents. I don't believe it;
https://rickwakemanscape.wordpress.com/2014/04/22/daft-or-dastardly-the-...
Perhaps you really need to SWALLOW that Red Pill? ;-) I mean nice handle and all, but brother, that rabbit hole is deep. This rock star shit is nothing....
Your an idiot. Go Cows!
@NoVa,
There's nothing that makes me laugh harder than the ad hom "idiot" prefaced by "your."
First good guffaw of the day.
My eyes are open. But you can't believe everything you read on the internet. This crap about Laurel Canyon conspiracy seems to stem from one person who's trying to sell his book. As far as Lennon goes, you're missing the point of the article. It's not about how good his music is, it's about how he was targeted for being a peace activist.
Comparing the pre ~1965 Beatles with the post ~1965 Beatles is pointless. They are like two completely different bands. The post 65 Beatles changed pop music permanently for the better. The pre were just a Buddy Holly wannabee band.
that's the difference after the LSD TurnON ....
as for Laurel Canyon, there is truth that that was a nexus of children of people employed by .gov & .mic, and nasa - which is how they acquired their LSD ... also Oswley began 1964 in the LA area making the real deal ... please take a look at another giant FF - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxLasmEYNR4 "The Tate Murders - The Monsters Dupe Us Again "
part of the full frontal assault on the emerging youth culture and power as through music and raised consciousness awareness they, the youth & turned ON were able to pinpoint the root cause of what was calling the kids to VietNam - the Pentagram.
Is that you, Sarah Palin, or another word salad artist?
Indian, I rarely criticize others. However your post of John Lennon is distateful, without truth or merit, becuase you failed to see the impact of the man, doesn't mean that millions did see. Quite frankly you disgust me.
RWZ
John Lennon circa 1970 = communist agitator
SAT CONG
Music and the arts have long been used to manipulate the masses. Variations on the Pied Piper theme, I suppose you could say. I certainly didn't like Lennon's politics but some of his stuff is easy to reuse.
Imagine there's Nobama...Ain't easy but we try...
i had discounted all the talk about Yoko being a major part in dividing the Beatles leading to their dissolution, but came back around to it....
we now know Yoko is a daughter of one of the most wealthy Japanese Banking families - worth billions, then so now, fuhhhgetttaboutit ! Was she behind getting Lennon into smack ?
maybe. She has not harmed him since his death but she has not publicly come out calling for re-legalizing the LSD that John and millions of others found so helpful in seeing the world as it really is, WE LIVE !
Yeah, but ask yourself why this article was posted. now. With America losing another war, destroying another country in order to save it. "They make a desert and call it peace." - Tacitus.
Is ZH reminding us of the lengths employees will go to make their bosses happy? Because, well, despite all of Hoover's 'tactics' Lennon refused to fold. And he could afford attorneys. And he came from a country that believed in the ceremony of the law and going before the King (that's what "at court", means, right?) He had the time and the money. He was making the underlings look bad to their boss. Who believed in short-cuts, evidently. And couldn't see the value in modern art.
Since that day the music industry has given us nothing but thugs shouting vulgarities at us. The day the music died, indeed.
Or, are they telling us that nobody is immune? Like, give up now, because even Lennon wasn't big enough, loved enough, transparent enough. As in "don't get uppity, little people? see what happens?" IF so, well, then ZH is making someone very nervous.
Indian, I rarely criticize others. However your post of John Lennon is distateful, without truth or merit, becuase you failed to see the impact of the man, doesn't mean that millions did see. Quite frankly you disgust me.
RWZ
Back at ya, douchebag. The only good thing about Lennon is that the NWO has adopted the Atheist National Anthem and now I can use it as a shortcut to tick my checklist.. "Shakira sings shitty rendition of Imagine to the Pope at the UN?" check!
I find it endlessly amusing that Instant Karma indeed knocked him off his feet.
When guys like Rutherford write twaddle like this:
He self identifies as another fool who agreed with Lennon that the "Beatles are bigger than Jesus Christ". Fools will get a fool's reward.
well, i think maybe a lot of the beatles' material (the early stuff in particular) was 'outsourced' in its writing. but sgt. pepper's is one of my favorite albums of all times, regardless of whatever was going on with the band. white album was fairly classic, too. post-beatles, i think mccartney had a far better grasp of songcraft, than did lennon. and, as it's been mentioned of lennon himself, i don't really care for his singing voice either. but definitely, sgt. pepper's... great album in my book. even if you rule out the faul thing though... strange, strange band.
according to Alan Watt, Cuttingthroughthematrix com, McCartney was given many song lyrics - part of that "grooming" thing ... yes, the money powers knew very well the power of song ...
they directed the winds of change musically ... the Social Engineers
post again : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxLasmEYNR4 Tate Murders - Monsters Dupe Us Again
Dear ORI,
While I usually have great admiration for your typical wordplay, playfulness with words, this time I believe it is truly misplaced (or misplayed). Perhaps that should just be chalked up to cultural differences, or musical preference. That allows me to continue to enjoy your commentary.
@ Rand +100
to all - look up the Dick Cavett Interview from Sept 11 1971. Great interview even though Yoko had saggy tits. John looked like he was maxed out on caffeine or somthing but his eyes were clear.
Paul broke up the Beatles, not Yoko & John. "Gimme Some Truth"
NoVa
for those that enjoy commercial free music:
http://xpn.org/events/free-at-noon/item/4351-the-arkells-and-jim-boggia-...
One of Worlds Greatest Music stations -
saggy or not, i liked them tits in that interview...
google the jews!
Brian Epstein?
Yoko Meschugano.
Does not compute.
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John Lennon and Paul McCartney re-defined pussywhipped.
You have to look at this fuckin' video...
Bill Burr on John Lennon, Chuck Berry and Yoko Meschugano (formerly: Ono)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5zO6t_RZdc
"Mind Games"
We're playing those mind games togetherPushing the barriers planting seeds
Playing the mind guerrilla
Chanting the Mantra peace on earth
We all been playing those mind games forever
Some kinda druid dudes lifting the veil
Doing the mind guerrilla
Some call it magic the search for the grail.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhhJqJV_u6M
Who DeFuque is this bird Chelsea ? Is that Shrillary's spawn-of-Satan? Did she take her husband's name?
i am the walrus
SHUT THE FUCK UP DONNY!
Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov!
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l4t0qfUjtc1qzb1rlo1_500.png
SHOMERFUCKINSHABBOS
is this your homework, larry?
I JUST BOUGHT THAT FUCKING CAR LAST WEEK!!! I'LL KILL YOUR FUCKING CAR!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS8X2Qp_6aA
The Beatles were an invention from the Tavistock Institute, T. Adorno wrote most of their 18 albums, they were MI6/CIA shills who couldnt even read notes and just played by sound the first 4 years. As the whole hippie movement is was all staged by the CIA and their MK Ultra leaded by Aldous Huxley. Late in life Lennon woke up, thats when he got killed cause he was to blow the whislte, and the real one, not as that phony Snowjob dude with his propaganda BS we know since the 90s.
UR CLUELESS
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today... Imagine there's no USURY
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...
Imagine getting a interest free home/business loan........the saudis do.......
'Saudi Arabia operates the world's most advanced welfare state, a kind of anti-Marxian non-workers' paradise. Saudis get free health care and interest-free home and business loans'
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2003/05/the-fall-of-the-hous...
Imagine that motherfuckers.....
And that would have nothing to do with the fact that the unpopular Royal family there own everything, have more money than Croesus thanks to their hijacking their country's oil wealth, and use it to buy the populace's acquiescence?
One less...
From SGT. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRp9hHdGy3U
Oh yeah?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzLe8R1bL4c
And my favorite advice of all: “All you need is love. Love is all you need.”
Good for him, and good for you...
but you both should've known that the world doesn't operate in Humility --
that's why we arrive at Principles and Rule of Law.
Oops....
So carry on anyway, and watch what happens.
My favorite Lennon quote is, "Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans."
Avantgarde, just another word for bullshit - John Lennon -
I am in the process of developing a peace app for mobile devices. If you want peace you simply 'like' it and let everyone in your contact list know you 'liked' it. Kumbaya, bitchez........
Read 1 Thessalonians 5:3 and then do your homework on the Hegelian Dialectic and the Tavistock Institute
Lennon's assassin was maybe
mind-controlled to do that?
My view is that Lennon promoted the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies and related impossible ideals as the controlled opposition always does. I regard his philosophy as that presented by a wide variety of other reactionary revolutionaries, or Black Sheeple.
Of course, those who have sufficient celebrity, for that reason alone, are perceived as a threat by the established systems based upon governments enforcing frauds. However, I tend to dislike the superficial analysis that is presented by those various sorts of celebrities, who have no other grounds for being respected than their celebrity status, as popular entertainers.
While I tend to agree with their superficial analysis of the political problems, because those analyses stayed too superficial, their "solutions" are bogus. Indeed, reactionary revolutionaries like John Lennon, et alia, do NOT engage in the deeper levels of analysis it takes to understand how and why civilization necessarily operates according to the principles and methods of organized crime.
People like John Lennon superficially recognized that we were living inside of Wonderland Matrix Bizarro Worlds. However, they did not go nearly far enough with respect to perceiving that, and so, they continued to promote bogus "solutions" which presented their mechanisms in just as absurdly backward ways as the problems already were.
Impossible ideals always backfire badly, and actually cause the opposite to happen in the real world.
Spot on Rad. Fuck John Lennon. The guy that was really screwed was Joe McCarthy. Ole Joe has the goods on the Bolsheviks.... the crypto Bolsheviks in the Media killed him.
McCarthy claimed to have a list of fifty seven communists in the State Department but he never named them. What a guy!
Its was harder then...now they are all communists.
RIPS
But he said he had a list. All he had to do was read it.
right on Rip/Rads...and spouting off with memes like 'social justice'. That's where this piece hit the wall for me.
@Rad,
My view is that Lennon promoted the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies and related impossible ideals as the controlled opposition always does.
I'm not sure what Lennon's "solution" actually was, apart from trying to get people to back the peace movement and recognise that politicians were insane. Back in the Beatles days he (they?) decried Mao - and violence/destruction generally - so I don't think they were Marxists.
All civilisations are run along the lines of organised crime, I agree. But given the nature of humanity, I'm not sure what can be done about it. The first step I think is to awaken as many people as possible to this reality, and Lennon was doing his part in that awakening. I'm sure his understanding of society evolved and changed with time, along with his descriptions and prescriptions... but whose hasn't?
Yeah, BigJim, it is too bad that Lennon's life was ended, since it would have been interesting to watch how his music and thinking may have otherwise developed ...
As you wrote: "All civilisations are run along the lines of organised crime, I agree. But given the nature of humanity, I'm not sure what can be done about it."
My view is that the only things which may be done are to marginally change the dynamic equilibria between the different systems of organized crime. However, those possibilities are within the limits of whatever the natural selection pressures will allow, due to the relationships between available natural resources, that can be accessed by available human technologies.
Rush always steered clear of that minefield. Now enjoying a well-deserved retirement with ~ as many gold records as The Beatles and The Rolling Stones.
Wife beater.
rip John. fuck you NSA.
There are people who come into this world and know the difference between good and evil and lead a good life without any threats, force or laws. They just do it because it is right.
Unfortunately there are the other types as well.
Are you saying Lennon was one of those 'other types'? I thought he was just an abusive asshole.
If just being an abusive asshole pays so well where's your Rolls?
Billy, you are too deep into the music matrix...read davesweb, Laurel Canyon, the genesis of Operation Kukture Kreation (MK Ultra) etc.
I used to love CSN, now I see one degenerate Royal (crosby, active in th ejungles of Sud America)), One giant arsehole (Stills, murdered people in Nam on CIA payroll) and the soft plant (Nash, also brit intelligence kiddo)... they boasted about it, BTW. And stills is a GIANT arsehole.
You've been had by deliciously deceptive design...
Stairway to Heaven is the Devil's song, just like Hotel Kalipornia...
Great compositions, but that is the whole point.
Deviant genius exists, does not mean you have to love them...
It's called ROCK (her Feller) music for a reason.
Oh and The Un Great ful Dead was basically an Acid distribution front. Their WALL OF SOUND....you think soem two bit band had that kind of money?
Come together, right now, over me...I used to think, oooooh, nice, kumbayah...then I was told the truth, splash your semen all over me, right now...together...
Fuck the Kulture Kreation Industry....
We've had this conversation before and the fact remains: not everything you imagine to be true is true. BTW, Come Together was originally intended to be a campaign song for Timothy Leary's abortive run for governor of California.
hah, that is interesting. Timothy LEEry as Gov would have been a hoot.
And it's true, what you said, so I keep an open mind....
I also understand music....
My favourite was at the 2012 Olympics when Paul Mcartney had everyone singing along to Hey Jude. I wondered why they picked that song and then I realised what it meant in German.
Hey Ori, I like your stuff, you have taught me to really attempt tp understand the words I am saying, I have also visited your site many, many times so I've heard your music.
I believe; Musicians are where you find them, if you can make sounds which brings you pleasure then you are a musician, if other people also like it that is a bonus. Musicians make music for self satisfaction, music, for some, is the door to other, non verbal, realities, it is a big universe our verbal based understanding is really very small.
To state, "I also 'understand' music" actually limits your expression to what you 'understand', and since you really don't truly understand anything, ( No one does) this pretention limits you. ( The Muse understands music, good musicians, let the Muse express it's self while they relax and enjoy the show!
All best wishes, sincerely, I respect you!
Thanks Sparkey.
When I said I understand music, I was only saying that I get how it can/is used to manipulate.
As a muse-i-cian, I am always learning and have no pretensions of grandeur (yet anyways ;-) )....If you saw my you-tube viewing history, its' all learn learn learn...
Dave McGowan - sadly dying of cancer.
One of the great alt media writers
Can't access his website any more.
He called 9/11 on 9/12
Lots of his material on the internet
Sadly, there seem to have always been about the same proportions in human populations of peaceful people / violent people / psychos who manipulate for power as there are today. These proportions don't change. What has changed is the technology available to the destructive ones for committing their destruction. Getting out of the way is also becoming increasingly difficult. They don't care if you want to participate or not. They will make you participate. It really is a sick way to organize, but our species seems to repeat it again and again and again and again...
I continue to observe in wonder at how people can honestly believe that if they follow the same behaviors (vote for "the other guy". Yeah! That'll make it better!!!), they will get different results. How blind are we? Pretty blind, it seems.
Insanity, as Einstein defined it: "Doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting different results."
I have neutralized the Western Empire like they neutralized King, Lennon, Swartz, et al. The Signals Intelligence community is woefully undereducated, cannot comprehend contemporary Economics, or Empiricism, Quantum Physics, et cetera. One need not worry about the defunct MIC, or apparatus of governments. The brightest of the bright in the world today cannot comprehend the basic mathematics of what the Giant Vampire Squid has been up to over the last twenty years. The $1.4 Quadrillion Dark Pool Derivatives Universe dwarfs combined GDP of all major Western Empire nations. Bottom line is that the old system of the FED dictatorship must die out and be quickly replaced or that is it for civilization as we know it.
Look it up, "Let Him Be". John Lennon lives in Toronto. Now down the rabbit hole with the lot of you.
But Paul is dead, right?
Personally, I've always been a bigger fan of Mark David Chapman.
A couple of 50 cent cartridges improved the sound of music and stopped Yoko from getting the crap kicked out of her.
Most stereo systems have an "off" button. The more you know...
And most computer mouses have a scroll button. Back at ya, babe.
When I see person who is hopelessly stupid I try to help. What you gonna do, shoot me?
When I see someone supporting a communist sympathizer, it makes me want to vomit. Please stop trying to make me lose my lunch.
What makes you believe that not applauding a murder constitutes suport for the supposed political leanings of the victim?
More concerning is your assertion that you become physically ill over the idea that a human being should not be gunned down. A mentally healthy individual would respond in the opposite manner and would more likely feel ill over the idea that someone would be gunned down.
Communists butchered over 100 million people in less than 90 years.
I have nothing but contempt for Communists, their fellow travelers, and/or their appologists.
Why do you love a communist sympathizer so much?
Nice, a two week troll?
We deserve much better here at the Hedge.
Someone disagrees, and they get the troll label.
If I didn't know any better, I'd say this was a forum for libertarian whack jobs.
Of course you would dumbfuck. Move along to the Yahoo boards...
I'm sorry. I should have made myself more clear. I meant to say INSECURE libertarian whack jobs.
Do you actually have an argument to make or are you just jerking off?
I don't feel any great love for you but I wouldn't want to see you gunned down. Perhaps you should visit a counselor or your pastor and remember, "Love your neighbor as yourself." If you can't muster up any love simple respect ought to be sufficient.
I heard Yoko was his handler.
John is suffering horribly as we speak
He deserves it.
Unfortunately his lies live on
You missed two periods which explains your bloating and irritability.
Daily Mail article about a book claiming Chapman was CIA. Link to the book.
From the article:
How strange, for example, that Chapman should visit Beirut at a time when the Lebanese capital was a hive of CIA activity — and was said to be home to one of the agency’s top-secret assassination training camps. Another camp
was supposedly in Hawaii, where Chapman lived for a number of years.
And who funded the penniless young man’s round-the-world trip in 1975, which took in Japan, the UK, India, Nepal, Korea, Vietnam and China?
it always strikes me as odd how people in europe 'hate' america but then they want to come over here and be political. like lennon or blunt...? i would never think of moving to russia and starting shit? here lennon left englnd for tax reasons yet hates our government and wants to change it to what....something like england...?
he probably was an asshole and did 80% of his music just to get rich but he did create chaos and he did start conversations.
funny how shitty old america would let him move here and do that. maybe the american idea isnt so evil.
lennon ....hates our government and wants to change it to what....something like england...?
Where did you get that?
lennon moves to america and then wants to change it to 'something' your guess is as good as mine. the point is why didnt he stay in england and change his own political system? emily blunt comes to america for the same fucking tax reasons and what is the first thing she wants to do...change the right/repub party to again 'something else'.
if you came to my door and then demanded i change my lifestyle, i would tell you to fuck off. why do these europeans think they have a right to go to another country, a better country than they came from, and complain....?
Because they can, God damn it.
There was a fellow named Tom Paine who came to America and changed it. Do you have a problem with him as well?
As for the supposed radical changes you fear Lennon intended to make, consider this:
"I don't remember saying that Revolution was revolutionary... You say that in order to change the world you have to destroy it. Ruthlessly. You're obviously on a destruction kick. I'll tell you what's wrong with it - people. So, do you want to destroy them? Ruthlessly? You seem to think it's just a class war... The lyrics still stand today. They're still my feelings about politics: I want to see the PLAN. That is what I used to say to Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman. Count me out if it's for violence... What's the point in bombing Wall Street? If you want to change the system, change the system. It's no good shooting people"
lennon came to america to get away from repressive taxation. he then wants to force me to change my government. he was a fucking hypocrite....
You still haven't mentioned any specifics. Show me how Lennon used violence in order to force you to do anything.
Well, he did beat the snot out of Yoko. But I guess she doesn't count...
Try to stay focused and explain how Lennon's supposed beating of Yoko forced hannah to change the American government. Be specific.
No, I think I'd prefer to stay focused on John Lennon's wife beating and communists sympathizing. Thanks for the invite to throw me off track though!
You told Bay of Pigs you're not a troll but here you are derailing a discussion of Lennon's supposed attempts to make America more like England. That fits the definition of "troll."
The real question is will hannah ever respond or will she let this whack job take away her responsibility to back up her assertions with evidence?
That's simple:
It is because the US, respectfully DC, is and was the new empire. And if you want(ed) to change things, you have to start at the heart of this. Not in some fringe ex-empire island.
Got it?
Should've had Yoko sing in the background. The Feds would stop eavesdropping in 10 seconds.
Peace & Love, Peace & Love
I'd like to believe in Lennon and he seemed to have been attempting to do some good in the world but then there are his quotes that are derived from Allister Crowley's self created religion, Crowley would say “Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.”
Lennon made a nearly identical statement on numerous occasions at the time when Crowley's beliefs were having a huge resurgence this is a huge red flag for me.
I don't care what people believe but we are talking about Crowley here..."For the highest spiritual working one must accordingly choose that victim which contains the greatest and purest force. A male child of perfect innocence and high itelligence is the most satisfactory and suitable victim."(Magic theory and practice)
Maybe these rockstars (Beatles in particular) were just experimenting with philosophy or trying to rebel against society by pretending to push Crowley's satanism, or possibly with Lennon it was just a coincidence but with the condition our society is in sometimes you have to wonder.
Speaking of the Beatles guess who else they were personal friends with? One hint Billy Clinton used to go to his parties.. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=beatles+and+crowley&iax=1&ia=images&iai=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-UEJSkg1UOpU%2FU3iSGPLhOsI%2FAAAAAAAAFsI%2FBEY2J0hVl10%2Fs1600%2FJimmy%2BSavile%2Band%2BThe%2BBeatles.jpg
I was listening to some Zeppelin today and I didn't levitate or anything.
I don't think music creates people but "a do whatever one wants" philosophy isn't really good for society either. Everybody has a right to say and sing what they want but others have a right to expose it too. Jimmy Savile didn't levitate anything but his destruction was felt by countless children (and corpses) and if one reads into the dark occult literature you could spot him as an occultist a mile away. I doubt Lennon was one but the Beatles admitted to admire Crowley and these people are out there in high visability places.
Jimmy Savile and the Franklin scandal gave us a once in a lifetime opportunity to crack into high level political pedophile rings and people would like to think that these are just simple organized pedophiles but there are many many indications and numerous investigators that believe there is an occult element to these activities.
My feeling is that there are enough children missing in the US to pay close attention to anyone who expouses beliefs that are tied to ritual satanic abuse. We have politicians that are pretending to sacrifice bundles to stone owls, people can scoff at it all they want but the Bohemian Grove group are tied to the Bilderberger group which filters our presidents. Maybe we should start paying more attention to what these peoples beliefs and rituals are.
What ever happened to the report that lots of British politicians were in on the Jimmy Saville thing? They were going to hold it until after some election (morons) but I never heard about it again.
After stone walling and poopooing peoples complaints for at least four decades they are trying to bury everything but it's not working because it's just too big. Basically the authorities are trying to admit to the problem to appease the people without allowing political prosecutions. There are at least 40 MPs that should be arrested but they are basically doing nothing. They have been lower level arrests.
On thing that they are doing is they are trying to lower the age of consent to age 13. A Huge amount of evidence has been destroyed but there are investigators who have come out about the cover up intimidations and even the deaths of investigators. They can't shut it down but they don't seem to want to prosecute any of these politicians or the police and judges who covered for them. It's unbelievable, the bastard even wore glass eyeballs that he stole from cadavers at the hostpital where he had a room so that he could rape kids at night. Sickest bastard ever and he was good buddies with Clinton and Prince Charles.
Thanks for the update. I've been reading about the Franklin Case recently. Very similar. The pitchforks are way overdue.
I always found it an odd coincidence that the Franklin scandal centered in billionaire Buffet town and wondered if there was more to it.
Did anybody ever consider that maybe the FBI was concerned that John Lennon was going to encourage his male followers to beat their wives?
Maybe law enforcement wanted to keep tabs on him to cut down a potential epidemic of domestic violence.
How come no one ever mentions that in real life, Lennon was a materialistic, self-involved, narcissist, in it strictly for the money.
Because it isn't true. John liked the money and all the things it could buy just like anyone else. But he also loved rock and roll. The Beatles started out as poor teenagers who played and sang for years before they made any real money. Why do you feel the need to pretend otherwise?
Here's a young John Lennon with a guitar but no obvious wad of cash:
https://tilonlysilenceremains.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/lennon13.jpg?w...
Check out Paul and George. They're just little kids but they love the music:
http://blurppy.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/1paul-mccartney-george-harris...
Unlike Paul and the others, Lennon was from an upscale middle class neighborhood.
People who live with their aunt after being abandoned by both parents are some of the richest people in the world. But please don't be so envious that you blow a gasket.
Probably he enjoyed the cash, but if that's all there was to it, he would not have taken the path that got him killed.
John Lennon was murdered by Satan America with the help of its A$$buddy & poodle Britain
How civilised is the west!!!
makes me wonder
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Mabbe US & UK should be brought to ICJ for state sponsored terrorism
America & euroPeons are the real terrorists, world should recognize this
Take a look at Operation Gladio.
For the home of the brave the US sure is scared of many people.
John Lennon was a pseudo pascifistic, envious of God crackpot, addicted to ignorance, sex and drugs. Only nitwits and airheads applaud the dirty minded freak.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Lennon was a hypocritical schmuck, so don't write such childish nonsense, dude. Perhaps consider your beam of arrogance.
You berated Lennon for being "envious of God" and then you called the word of God "childish nonsense." Sounds like you are the one who hates the Lord.
You with the Clinton campaign?
Lennon and Starr were total hacks.
Harrison and McCartney were the talented ones.
Ringo perfeted the art of psychedelic drumming. Listen to him play on Blue Jay Way, for example, and remember that the drum track was the first one recorded and everything else was layered on top of it.
Ringo also said, "Everything the government touches turns to shit," which is way cool.
Lennon was an excellent songwriter especially early on. A Hard Day's Night (one of the Beatles more consistent albums) starts off with not one, not two but three Lennon songs in a row. He got bogged down for a while but his writing on Double Fantasy was top notch.
All roads lead to Paris
I once met Lennon's Immigration Laywyer - who at the time had offices in downtown Manhattan.
After letting him wistfully reminisce about how he stopped Lennon's deportation - probably the highlight of his career - I asked him point blank if the Lennon shooting was a Fed/FBI "hit".
He immediately fixed a slack-jawed stare on me - probably not realising I hadn't taken the Oath If Omerta - and said "Let's not go there". End of story.
(It was later revealed that the Chapmans were friends of George Bush Snr)
CORRECTION: It was the HINCKLEYs - not the Chapmans - who were pals with Bush
I retract that last sentence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_William_McKinley
Oh Lennon not Lehman now it makes sense
I've got to confess my life is a mess
I'm dreaming of her and thinking of the rest
Why is love so confusing?
All of us used to be such friends
When did it change? Where did it end?
I guess there's no way around these complications
Childhood dreams go hand-in-glove
With what it takes to fall in love
Some will survive, others vaporize
Teacher cain't teach what she don't know
She's living too fast, learning toooo slow
I wish I knew a twenty-first century guru
(musical interlude)
Now nobody's got the time
They sacrifice their peace of mind
To a talk-show host that's a stressed out junkie too
I'm searching hard to find a place
Where these heebie-jeebie people ain't in my face
How many pennies to the Quantum Borderline?
I got to live, I want to thrive
I got to learn what keeps love alive
All this hostile noise just gets me down
I got to fight for my place in the sun
There's a race going on, I got to run
I ain't wasting time if you don't want to know
A serpent is waiting in the dust by every door
I wish I knew a twenty-first century guru
Goes to show the USA was getting its panties all in a knot about nothing. Class A paranoid country, no question.
Read a bit better: Lennon never advocated any revolution, nor even a tiny riot, nor challenging the PTB at all, or ever said the smallest hushed word against capitalism. All he said was "let's have peace, folks", which is akin to saying "when people are hungry, they want to eat and it's good that they should" or "war is bad", or "it's better to love than to hate".
Groundbreaking.
WTF?
Even Bernie Sanders is more radical.
The problem for the US government with Lennon was the number of people he could communicate too at any time.
Agree he was no threat, many are not, they speak their minds ... now think in the context of Nixon at the time was he not a criminal? Now look at the mindset of a criminal they fear being exposed because as far as I can tell criminals need to be liked, facilitates the crime and APPLIES TO BANKERS AND POLITICIANS.
So old Lennon jumps up, hey that Nixon is a criminal ... the silence and thoughts that follow from a population.
THAT THEY CAN NEVER BE ALLOW.
"Everything will be okay in the end. If it’s not okay, it’s not the end.” - John Lennon
I think Lennon understood that to remove the controller we just get a new controller no matter what the form is e.g. Communism, Capitalism or any other ism.
What we need is a level that those who control us cannot breech and with that you get peace well the USA had this under their constitution from the founding fathers but was gradually destroyed by guess who ... the controllers.
The UK had this before the USA, called the Magna Carta, again much of it destroyed by the controllers.
For a controller there is only one rule "do what you want to whoever you want with no penalty".
The last 40 years have seen advances in technology all being used by the controller as rule 1.
What do you do? What they don't want you to do? Protest for the reinstatement of the constitution in full then no matter the technology you have a certain amount of protection from the controller. The thing is about the constitution or any other similar set of laws it is only achievable through a WAR AGAINST A CONTROLLER AND YOU WIN.
That controller for the USA was the King of England, you won but now your new controller as Lennon believed was replaced and set to work demolishing those laws made to protect and serve the people.
Think that about sums it up, what needs to be done now here are the inevitable 2 choices.
War and draft up a new constitution all over again or Magna Carta or ... just demand the one that was previously created because in the social context of why it was written it is EXACTLY THE SAME.
Then you can realise you only have war because the controler having gained even more control of a population willl not give up this newly acquired power. They are the ones to blame for war be you agressor or defender controller.
Attention! All cynical sophomores, please report to the lobby for..., whatever. We'll call you when you're needed.
Here's a Yoko Ono song. Tasty minimalism. No wall of sound here.
http://www.songs-tube.net/202078-Yoko%20Ono-Don%E2%80%99t%20Be%20Scared%...(w.%20John%20Lennon).html
Don't be scared
Don't be scared
Don't be scared
Don't be scared to love
Better to love than never love at all
Don't be scared
Don't be shy
Don't be shy
Don't be shy to tell
You may lose the chance to tell
Don't be shy
When your hearts are lit
Drop your survival kit
Then you never have to
Run or split
Sun in the east
Moon in the west
This boat's moving slow
There's no land in sight at all
Away we go
Don't be scared
Don't be scared
Don't be scared to love
It's better to love than never love at all
Don't be scared
Nice walk down memory lane in a yellow submarine.
Lennon was playing a game with hidden truths. ‘I Am the Walrus’ (like most lyrics and imagery from the Beatles) is not difficult to decode. In addition to being saturated with occult references, its meaning shows that Lennon treated the topic of genocide with amused detachment; and that he participated in the deliberate creation of the destructive ‘counter culture’, along with others such as Gordon Wasson and Gregory Bateson, a lifetime actor.
http://caesarsmessiah.com/blog/2015/01/warning-to-oysters-beware-the-wal...