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US Claims Malfunctioning Russian Cruise Missiles Hit Iran; Moscow, Tehran Both Deny
The past seven days have brought a wave of competing propaganda from both Washington and Moscow as both East and West scramble to shape the narrative on Syria where Russia’s “intervention” has apparently turned the tide in favor of Damascus, completely destroying the anti-Assad strategy of the Pentagon’s regional allies.
It’s absolutely imperative for everyone to do their best to maintain the public’s trust here. This is how we put it on Wednesday:
The West cannot afford to stand by and watch Russia do in a matter of weeks what the US has failed to accomplish in 13 months. Put simply: if Moscow declares victory over ISIS within the next month or two (and that appears as likely as not), Washington will be left to explain to a bewildered public what just happened. To the uninitiated, it will appear as though Russia’s military is far superior to the US Army when it comes to fighting terror and on top of that, Iran’s now well publicized role will not only cast further doubt on the nuclear deal, but will also raise questions about the contention that Tehran is committed to financing and exporting terror.
For Russia, the powerplay in Syria represents nothing short of a return to the world stage after decades of flying below the radar as a second rate superpower. Putin has now proven that Moscow can project its influence with virtual impunity and as Monday’s “accidental” violation of Turkish airspace suggests, The Kremlin is getting more brave by the day in the face of what certainly looks like a de facto surrender by the West.
Well, it now looks as though, lacking anything in the way of options, the US is set to try and sow discord between Russia and Iran by highlighting the following “story”:
- MISSILES MEANT FOR SYRIA LANDED IN RURAL IRAN: DEFENSE OFFICIAL
- FOUR RUSSIAN CRUISE MISSILES LANDED IN IRAN, U.S. OFFICIAL SAYS
- U.S BELIEVES FOUR RUSSIAN CRUISE MISSILES FIRED AT SYRIA FROM RUSSIAN SHIP CRASHED IN IRAN -U.S. OFFICIALS
- MISSILES MEANT FOR SYRIA LANDED IN RURAL IRAN: DEFENSE OFFICIAL
And here’s CNN:
A number of cruise missiles launched from a Russian ship and aimed at targets in Syria have crashed in Iran, two U.S. officials told CNN Thursday.
Monitoring by U.S. military and intelligence assets has concluded that at least four missiles crashed as they flew over Iran. One official said there may be casualties, but another official said this is not yet known.
It's unclear where in Iran the missiles landed. The Russian ships have been positioned in the south Caspian Sea, meaning the likely flight path for missiles into Syria would cross over both Iran and Iraq.
The Russians have been firing a relatively new cruise missile called "Kaliber," using it for the first time in combat.
Note that we are not denying the possibility that some Russian cruise missles might have accidentally landed in Iran. That very well could be the case. But if it is, here's why: Moscow just fired up a military juggernaut that's been parked in the garage for nearly three decades and so yeah, it's entirely possibly that there will be a few hiccups and tragically, those hiccups will probably result in the loss of innocent lives. There's no sugar coating that.
But if this is an effort on the part of the Pentagon to create tension between Moscow and Tehran it won't work.
Understand that this would be like attempting to sow conflict between the US and Canada by drawing attention to US missles that accidentally hit Alberta on the way to targets in Alaska where militants were attempting to invade North America. In other words: Tehran isn't going to care about this and the sooner Washington, Doha, and Riyadh decide to get serious about developing a real strategy here, the better off they'll look in the history books because suggesting that Russian jets are about to bomb Ankara and/or that Russia shouldn't fire cruise missiles at militants because one or two might malfunction on the flight over Iran hardly counts as a credible "plan" and indeed, this isn't exactly the best time for the US to be pointing fingers when it comes to collateral damage.
Oh, and by the way, both Russia and Iran say these reports are entirely bogus. Via Sputnik:
Iranian defense ministry believes reports on "fallen Russian cruise missiles" are part of the intensified western propaganda war, according to a source.
Tehran denies US reports that four of Russia's cruise missiles targeting ISIL actually fell to the ground in Iran, with the country's defense ministry calling the accusations "psychological war."
Russia's Defense Ministry denies US media reports of an alleged incident involving cruise missiles which were fired at ISIL positions in Syria on October 7, stating that all missiles hit their designated targets.
"No matter how unpleasant and unexpected for our colleagues in the Pentagon and Langley was yesterday's high-precision strike on Islamic State infrastructure in Syria, the fact remains that all missiles launched from our ships have found their targets," ministry's spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said.
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Here’s their last call: "We are in collision with berg. Sinking Head down. 41.46 N. 50.14 W. Come soon as possible."
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Looney
lol....soon Assad will accidentally gas Russians and Chinese....oh and Iranians
Funny how "US officials" never have names.
Ever.
Perhaps should conduct press conferences wearing balaklavas and carry charade to completion.
.
Cue the Russian missile false flag. He said they miss their targets, right?!
BWHAHAHAH. We bombed a FUCKING HOSPITAL this week, and we have the fucking never to comment on someone else who is taking out ISIS?
good time for the jews to blow some stuff up in iran.
What is very embarrassing is how much we overpay for the same technology.
I don't think they actually do cost more at all but that the gigantic sums spent are just being funnelled through the MIC and end up in far more exotic Government super "black projects"
Listening to CNN expressing concern that Russian Missiles fell into Iran and might have hurt innocent civilians is enough to make me puke! Wasn't it only a few weeks ago that the liberal humanitarian bombers wanted to attack Iran?
If a missle falls in the desert and nobody hears it, does it make the news?
Yes! Even if it never happened!
gosh, Putin better hope o-blah-blah doesn't issue a viscious and scathing sorty of Tweets about this. Putin might die of laughter.
;-)
I seriously doubt that the pentagram has the ability to track these missiles. When they can tell the difference between taliban camps and afghan hospitals I might reconsider. If you think otherwise, then go ahead and buy some more treasury bonds to support your empire.
They must suspect that NATO will put out videos of any errant missles?
My cat just informed me that a Pakistani cruise missile once penetrated Obama's ass.
She said it so it must be fact.
That's true, cat's don't lie -- they just figure: fuck you if you don't like it.
Bast, that there is funny as hell and so damned true.
OTOH, this is one way to accidently get missile tech to Iran outside of any sanctions or reporting duties. Who says they were armed and went boom?
Its all just words,
show me the you tube evidence or shut up.
Funny how US intel can track all cruises launched by the Russians, but a Malaysian airliner over another hot zone of their creation? Not so good at big lumpy tin cans chugging around at subsonic?
Or four hijacked planes committing mass murder and causing impossible building collapses.
Well, thats what the Russians are claiming that these particular missles can't be tracked. I dont know if all 26 got through, but thats irrelevant, they were only shooting at 11 targets and all it would take is one. Horseshoes and handgrenades, you just have to get close.
Here is a lousy vid that at least 2 that made it and came home to daddy. Filmed in Syria. you have to watch it 2-3 times to see them. camera guy nervous? lol
http://cassad.net/tv/videos/15310/
Also A just released vid of Helicopter gunships attacking and smoking a few alla akbars for us sofa generals. Looks like its getting warm on some ISIS scum to me. Can't let them jet pilots have all the fun.My hats of to these insane brave Russian pilots coming in low. You know its extremely dangerous as he is launching flares everywhere incase a manpad is around. Respect.
Sounds like his liver eating buddy on the radio just wet his pants.
http://cassad.net/tv/videos/15379/
These guys aren't fucking around. That's some crazy low flying right there. Launching flares everywhere, dropping dumb bombs, launching a barrage of missiles... Did anyone know the Russians had the capability of launching a cruise missile from a 1,000 miles out?
Yes, but never in live combat conditions.
and i particularly like the choice of the caspian sea with overflight of two countries of the many that like russia better than the "city upon a hill". not a lot of u.s. naval presence there, i would imagine.
Stop it! John Mc Cain is getting a Boner and at His age it might be terminal.
Janes was shocked at the range of the cruise missiles. If the US/NATO try to establish a "no-fly" zone or otherwise interfere with Russian operations, they might get a few more surprises.
With all these Ruskie misiles flying around and falling out of the sky it would be very sad if one went off course and took out the evil Saudi King Salmon.
Col Kilgore eat your heart out...
true
the Pentagon can't even tell the difference between a missle and a very very large airplane
LOL they're just making shit up as they go along at this point.
Read up on these Russian missiles they fly like a Tomahawk until they are 20-30 miles out then they fire a solid booster and accelerate to 2.9 mach with terminal maneuvers if these work as advertised they are MUCH better than our Block 4 Tomahawks except for loiter and seek...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3M-54_Klub
Yes, I'm certain John McCain has a song or two he'd like to string is Qatar to; oh my mistake that's guitar
get yourself a federal job for a little while, it'll open your eyes in a big way
if the feds pay a dollar for something, its real market value is less than half a cent
Putin has got the Obama administration so discombobulated, they don't know whether to run, shit, or go blind.
exactly....by the way Obama....if the russian's fired 1,000 cruise missles into the no-man's land of Iran, who cares!!! If the Iranian's aren't complaining about it....WHY IN THE HELL ARE WE!!!
"we" care because the US govt wants to try to make russia look bad or incompetent because putin revealed that the US is either incapable of detroying ISIS due to ineptitude and stupidity or dishonest liars because we say we want to destroy ISIS while also supporting and arming them because we care more about deposing assad.We don't care about russian cruise missles hitting Iran, just making russia look bad
Bombing a hospital full of volunteer Doctors Without Borders and kids is a pretty hard act to top in the looking bad dept.
Russia would have to nuke the Kaaba to get worse press.
Nailed it right there. I've been trying to figure out the false flag Israel will pull off against the Russians, given that that's all they know. The only question remaining is who's passport will they find miraculously intact at the scene?
Fresh out of passports, will a birth certificate do?
And want to let it be known they aren't the only ones with the capacity?
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2013/09/russia-shot-down-two-us-missiles-f...
Been done before, quid pro and escalate neocon style.
Obama will not finish his second term! Banned independent documentary reveals the truth. This will scare millions! Current Events Linked to Ancient Biblical Prophecy! http://motivationdose.com/is-america-babylon/
more bible shit? this is how things originally got fucked up, you know that right?
@Nenad - So, I take it that means that that was the 'approved' version at the Council of Nicea, as well as made it past all the King James revisions. Wow! I better take it seriously then /s
Bible prophecy is a bit like reading the Gartman newsletter
well at least it seems more fitting in this neighborhood than in vietnam, central america or the ukraine.
didn't st. john the divine indicate armageddon will be initiated when jesus slays the antichrist on the steps of the temple in damascus?
is there even a temple in damascus at this point?
at least i got some more names for obama in the research: Man of Sin, the Little Horn, the Prince Who is to Come, the Son of Perdition, the Man of Lawlessness and the Beast.
my favorite is the little horn.
HOLY SHIT!!! You're right...I just looked that up in the Bible and it does say Obama won't finish his second term!!!
Is that the Gospel of Saint Roscoe of the Supperating Colon?
Your link says the collapse will happen in 2017. 2016 will be Oama's last year in office. What difference will a few days make? You are listening to a false prophet.
If the prophesy fails to come true....will he re-evaluate and become a muslim?
"false prophet." <--- redundancy alert!
Too many people including conservatives say Obola this and that. Yes he is horrible but the whole govt from the top to the bottom is totally corrupt, blackmailed and extorted by Deep States, zoligarchs, major corporations etc.
The GO-Pee has done nothing to stop the chaos. The NeoCons and Neo Libs want more bombing, war and murder.
It keeps the steaks on the grill.
Space Pen vs. Pencil.
The more complex a system, the more prone to failure.
Please the chosenites couldn't even win a war against Hezbollah....it's another paper tiger that looks good due to Hollywood propaganda and basically useless in real life...
They're great agains hammas (who they created) and a bunch of kids throwing rocks and molotov cocktails....even ferguson police managed that....sorta
Chosenites know neither how to fuck or fight. Truth!
They don't need to fight. We do for them.
Now if they'd let us do their fucking for them as well....
They have Ron Jermey for that ;-)
Were 1967 & 1973 pre-history? You know the "7-day war"? Buy a neuron and make a synapse.
You mean when they "won" against enemies that we all now know were controlled by British Intelligence and the CIA? wow that must have been a tough one....
It really is sad to see what a joke the US is becoming. This government is completely clueless and their Mid East policy is in disaray. It seems as though Obama is getting cold feet on the whole Bush Doctrine because they can't accomplish the overthrow of those Mid East governments without massive amounts of boots on the ground. That is obviously a non starter, so this is the end result.
we lack the will to be horrible cunts. you cant half step being a horrible cunt. putin does it with ease.
Horrible how he kills these terrorist scumbags eh?
You sound so disappointed for some reason.
Interesting how a person isnt a orrible cunt when they support a lie that leads to the deaths of hundreds of tousands by arming, funding and supporting a terrorist organisation. because, well...supporting terrorists is good now? Or something? Im pretty fucking stupid and even I cant follow the murikistanian narrative anymore.
Whoa there is a narrative? I thought there was just 5 minutes hate and disconnected statements made at random to push hot button issues until te news cycle turned. Please tell me what this narrative thing is, sounds like stuff my grandfather used to talk about. Things like books, Republics, rule of law, honesty, integrity and at least the illusion of the common man's interest mattering one fucking iota. Tell me more about this narrative thing. It sounds fascinating! /s
Freedumb and the muzzies did the 9\11...
Why the sarc tag? I honestly want to hear Obama and Friends try to explain the narrative that made Al Queda "moderate" rebels...
Tell that to the Vietnamese, and the ..., well you get the point.
Bombing a hospital is,nt horrible enough for you ?
ZeroHedge and some of the guys that comment on here have been talking about the propaganda coming from the media. This right here takes the cake:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/iraq-faces-massive-us-missile-barrage/
This is an article from 2003 being passed as new news on Yahoo right now. You just can't make this shit up.
The article doesn't have the facts straight either.
Its all his KGB training! Putin lovers do know he's ex-KGB don't you?
Just like all Obama lovers know he is ex CIA?
What is your point Hasbra?
The actions of the US media releases and claims have become so childish, outlandish and shameless that something about it concerns me, a lot. Going so far as their using social media postings as "evidence".
Are those calling the shots that childish? Do that have such low regard for the intelligence of the public (perhaps deserving so) that they believe they can get them to believe anything dispite it being obviously nonsense or hypocritical? Do they do it just for entertainment and laugh at how they can release anything publicly with no real questioning (or a power trip that they are above questioning).
It is like elementary school kids, at least in mentality, are in control. Only they are very sick kids, sociopaths combined with psycopaths. Or perhaps they view the others as school kids and are talking down to the level they feel the others are.
You can never shame or find a conscience in a true sociopath or psycopath. And once they get bold due to getting away with something they ramp up the carnage.
But they are NOT unintelligent. They are skillful in their pursuil. And these actions are increasing with some purpose.
If feels they are getting more outragous in their BS. And perhaps their actions. See - Ukraine, explosions in China, explosions in Russia, taunting both with moving missiles and weapons closer, sanctions based upon BS, thinly veiled attacks through the financial systems, hacking China and Russia and others then playing victim and claiming it is the US being hacked, new announcement that the US will provoke China by sailing warships into their territorial claims.
Are they getting desperate, or just bold. Do they see a window of time to explote a weakness or a window of time to act before Russia and China strengthen too much and their "allies" start to step away.
As always, they do not intend to be the ones paying the price or doing the dieing. They have to sufficiently work up the idiots so they will do the fighting and sacrificing. Not only do they need to get the idiots to see Russia and China as the great threat and as a great evil they need to see them as inferior. Inferior mentally (tactics and technically) and inferior in their abilities to conduct war (such as effectiveness of weapons). The sheep need to think they will have a very large advantage in the fight and will be doing the killing, not the dieing. Gonna be a hero getting the girl not a martyr in the ground.
It feels something is afoot and they do not intend for a long term standoff. At best it could just be playing with the toys as a diversion and using the media (that they own) while conducting economic war. But there are a lot of surprising ways for them to pursue the war that might surprise. All sorts of covert attacks, dirty bombs, small planted nukes, power system attack, water supply poisoning or breaking, assasinatons, emp, all sorts including the overlooked use of biowarefare (disease of people, livestock, crops).
Rant off.
Yes, it is chilling because their purpose may be to start global war. They don't care anymore how bad they look. It's gametime for them and they WANT death and destruction. What other conclusion can one draw when they are bombing hospitals full of innocent doctors and nurses?
If Obama's true goal is a weak USA that has been remade into a socialist, soccer playing effeminate laughing stock, would he be doing a good job of it?
Destroy the military moral - check
Make sure that everybody in thw world hates us, and not just half of them - check
pussify everything - check
political correctness everywhere - check
disarm us - working on it.
it's a fucking plan, not that he is stupid or being outwitted.
Demoralization is the first step:
4 steps:
Demoralization, Destabilization, Insurgency, Normalization
(Normalization being the military in the streets, and global surveillance accepted)
Hard to argue against that.
1 & 2 Done.
3 - in progress as the illegals flood in.
4 - in progress. There are military choppers flying over our neighborhood every night
No doubt Obama is useless, and his backing of a "moderate" Syrian rebel force can only be labeled "Bay of Pigs II" at best, but lets not forget that the vast majority of the US public, including the military, don´t want to be involved in Syria. Remember, the real reason Obama caved over the "Red Line" threat he made over the chemical weapons issue is because of the heavy backlash that came from the US citizenry and anonymous military members who basically said to Obama, and Congress, "FUCK THAT IDEA!". That was one of the very rare instances during recent times that public opinion actually molded policy.
Since then, Obama has been very timid, with limited airstrikes against ISIS targets in spite of their human atrocities, and, only when southern Iraq and the Kurds were almost overrun, did he allow SF and military advisors back into action. What these troops are actually doing has been all but kept in the dark, and well away from the homefront MSM.
I don´t expect any US military escalation regarding Syria and ISIS as long as Obama is still in power. He will shore up the defences of neighboring states such as Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Israel, and perhaps Turkey, with weapons shipments. He will continue to engage in "diplomacy", sending Lurch here and there, but thats about it until Jan.2017.
His main strategy right now is seeing Putin gets bogged down in a "Rattenkrieg" fighting ISIS which ends up costing him untold billions of rubles which he can ill afford, and in turn, weakens his political base at home...especially if he starts taking military casualties and is subjected to terror attacks. This doesn´t help Putin one bit either: https://www.rt.com/news/317831-saudi-clerics-jihad-syria-russia/
BS analysis. But then, everybody is entitled to an opinion...
BS answer since you can´t spare a dime voicing your own opinion.
There wasn't much in there worth commenting on. You give the Obama admin way too much credit for me to want to dissect the garbage you put out.
So you have no aopinioni about Saudi cleric issuing jihad against a nation from within a coutry that heads the Human Rights commitee of th e UN? And what does that have to do with bamba?
The govt is corrupt top to bottom and is totally owned, blackmaied, extorted by wealthy oligarchs, corporations and others.
Anyone thinking any election will change anything is delusional. The GO-Pee romped in 2014 and have done nothing. They support O 110%. TheGO-Pee has done nothing on Obolacare, passed TPP, and has done nothing on the border or rolling back the police state. The NeoCons and NeoLibs (half of Congress?) want endless war.
Putin did not take Americans healthcare, given Americans TPP, send their kids off to die, bankrupt America with endless wars, create a police state, bankrupt college kids, leave American borders wide open while spending $2 trillion in national defense.
Putin and the Russians did not bomb and murder millions of innocent PEOPLE. Yes human beings.
You want to see how bad America is? watch Saturday or Sunday - hundreds of thousandas of white males cheering on their Trayvon thugs like girlies. Cheering on the genocide of whites like fools. Almost every college and every ball games. Total morons.
Dont forget to mention, the FDIC as per the last passed budget, is now on the hook for investment banking losses. When the derivatives blow will be when it all goes down over here. When you hit the morons in their wallets, then their stomachs - that is when bankers and politicians will flee, or end up at room temperature. The banksters, so called conservatives and their socialist comrades (they are all just oligarch tools) have signed their own and the USSAs death warrant with this.
LOL! Didn't USSA also nail a Chinese embassy and a milk factory? They're trying to take the high road but having a hard time because of all the lies...all the time.
yes they did in Serbia about 15 years ago
Gulf of Tonkin
Israeli attack on the USS Liberty....
Are you telling me no-one is going to fall for this except Wolf Blitzer????
It's embarassing, like having that relative that always drinks to much during holiday gatherings and acts like a complete asshat.
CIA thought they'd hacked into Ruskie cruise missiles.
Turns out to be VW sat nav software. Now there's a bunch of Passats lost in the middle east, spewing out poison fumes
lol
Taking credit for saying something stupid? Not in MY country!
Since that "official" is so adept at tracking cruise missles, maybe he can get off of his ass and track dow the three trillion bucks the Pentagram can't account for that mysteriously vanished from its books.
.....or provide ANY forensic evidence of who shot down MH-17......
Its just like SWAT teams doing home invasions based on an "anonymous source" except on a much grander scale.
Who has the grandest corrupt and fraudulent government in the world? That's what makes America EXCEPTIONAL.
The chihuahua ratted em out.
Looks like Bahgdad bob is now US bob. This is getting crazier by the week.
Looks like we found a way to hijack them from space with our secret no look confusion resonance microwave beam.
I'm glad the US military was able to track multiple low flying cruise missiles, at night, with such accuracy.
Too bad they couldn't manage to track a high-flying, infinitely more visible BUK missile that took down the MH17 passenger jet at 33,000 feet.
Sure they did, but to put out proof is a disadvantage.
It removes potential leverage in different negotiations.
It reveals sources, methods and capabilities.
It puts them on the hook to reveal information in future incidents.
It also raises loads of questions the defense and intelligence agencies would prefer to not have to address.
Sure they did, but to put out proof is a disadvantage.
BIG DISADVANTAGE, AS THEY WOULD BE PROVEN TO BE LIARS
It removes potential leverage in different negotiations.
U.S. DOES NOT SEEM TO HAVE ANY LEVERAGE
It reveals sources, methods and capabilities.
SATELLITE PHOTOS? EVERYONE KNOWS WE HAVE THEM.
It puts them on the hook to reveal information in future incidents.
IT MAKES IT OBVIOUS THAT WE HAVE NOTHING. IF WE HAD ANYTHING THAT WOULD PUT THE RUSSIANS IN A BAD LIGHT, IT WOULD BE EVERYWHERE.
It also raises loads of questions the defense and intelligence agencies would prefer to not have to address.
THAT IS 100% TRUE.
+++ well said
WTF? Put down the crack pipe...
Ass Wind
"The Ministry of defense of Russia's comments on the CNN:
in contrast to the CNN we don't talk with reference to anonymous sources, and show our missile launches and affected their goal almost in real time."
US could have tracked it via AWACS in Iraq airspace.
Funny though US officials didn't mention how they monitored those missiles?
Funny though US officials didn't mention how they monitored those missiles?
I would be surprised if they did.
To do so would reveal sources, methods and capabilities.
Tough as it is to swallow for Generation Wuss, a nation's military and intelligence services do need to keep secrets.
Shhhh....
The kids here arent ready for that kind of thinking
Give them a few years
Expend your reading base hasbara and you'll learn some facts.
Far better posters have been banned here for far less than these fucktards like Divine Wind, lasvegasdave and falconflight.
it's called comic relief... post away Las Vegas Dave!
Russian Defense Ministry: Russian missiles found their targets in Syria, regardless of the expectations of the Pentagon
October 8, 2015, 21:37 Ministry of Defense shows a missile launching in Syria almost in real time, without concealing the effects of shock. This was stated by spokesman of the military department, Major-General Igor Konashenkov commenting appeared in the Western media about the allegedly fallen in Iran, Russian missiles.
"Unlike CNN, we do not talk, citing anonymous sources, and show launches of our rockets and affected by them targets in almost real time. I can not say anything, but any professional in this field knows that in carrying out such operations are always fixed the target image before and after the impact, "- he said.
The representative of the Defense Ministry said that over Syria clock working group of Russian drone." So, how would nor it was unpleasant and "surprises" for our colleagues in the Pentagon and Langley yesterday hit with precision weapons infrastructure LIH in Syria, still all running from ships missiles found their targets. It's a fact. Otherwise it would have to admit that located at a considerable distance from each other objects of terrorist groups in Syria yesterday LIH exploded themselves. And almost simultaneously ", - summed Konashenkov
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201510082137-e71w.htm
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-30/first-shipment-russian-s-300-ro...
Ha ha nice find Bladyface, sooooo Las Vegas David 2 years ago you,d had enough of ZH "conspiracy theorists" and cross my heart hope to die thats it I,m going you,ll never see me again you,ll be sorry so there. What,s up ?your still fucking here you troll, could,nt do without the Hasbara pay check ?
How big of a loser would you have to be to search thru all my posts going back four years?
Bwah hahaha
Fuck you scumbag loser
In another granitelike dog howled. It's funny when stupid naive idiot assess someone else's mind.
Your self-importance claim does not depict reality. Banality of your posts give zero worth to spend time examining.
Laughed when reading drama queenly you that post made. I determined (correctly now by the way) you return after awhile application salve to deep anal pain easens. Simple matter on saving link in file blowhard clinical idiots.
This thesis now on results with your hysteria proven.
So it is clear, or to explain once again?
The kids here arent ready for that kind of thinking
ZH has a playground for asshats like you. it's called Digg - go there.
Alleged ‘Russian cruise missile flyby’ footage published by Kurds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=15&v=3kWlxZNO8ZY
Las Vegas, Your post had only one purpose really., to insult. Please take my super- fast IQ and BRAVERY test and tell us all who it is exactly that took down the twin towers and building 7. *Note – the laws of physics will apply during this test.
A simple ground based radar could have detected it. But US info seems false
Tehran has no info on cruise missiles which allegedly landed in Iran
It's possible, depending on the route of the missile and where it's alleged to have crashed. The US doesn't have radar stations in Iran (obviously), and ground based radar has a strictly limited range, so it could only have been spotted if it made it far enough into Iranian territory to be within range of ground based radars in, say, Turkey.
I think the whole thing's probably bullshit, myself, and really stupid bullshit that serves no good PR purpose anyway.
"Duh Russians accidentally bombed an empty field in Iran (their ally who gave them permission to use their airspace), we have the moral superiority! (we say having just accidentally blown up a hospital)"
derp
Q. Are the PR men getting dumber or are they letting it slip because their targets are getting dumber?
Wilmot I know tracking cruise missile can be done by radars and usa had none in either Iraq or Iran. In Turkey they might have and alllegedly none of the cruise missile hit Iran, they gave a statement already. Moreover no evidence came up to back that claim. Iran's regional media did flash this news but again for souce they cited CNN. Just read what US said :
The American broadcaster CNN cited two unnamed US officials, who said that four Russian missiles had crashed somewhere in Iran after being launched from vessels in the Caspian Sea. The report suggested that “some buildings were damaged and civilians may have been hurt.” Can you Imagine Iran failed to determine those damaged buidlings and US did ? Had it been real western presstitutes would have painted russians evil already.
It's all psyops nothing else after seeing their assets worth millions and regime change plans going down the gutter in Syria after Russia's bold and necessary move ( Bear woke up!) they are all frustrated and pissed so resorting to such lowlife tactics is the only remaining task they have at-least to delude dumbed down sheeple all over earth .
Proof please? CNN claims Russian missiles crashed in Iran, Moscow refutes, US can't confirm
Pssst! Here is a secret for you. Radar has been around over 100 years and was used in war first during WW2.
Putin to US: Pics or it didn't happen...
The reason they hug the ground is to make radar detection difficult...
Exactly. Anyway, I dont think the story has an merit, however, even if it is true; Iran is a willing participant in the launch event. Even if there was a malfuntion, it must be considered an assumed risk of operations and therefore none of Murikistans fucking business. Or anyone else's other than Iran and Russia.
Wind, I don’t know why you had to insult anyone. You may be correct, who is to really know? The point is that we now live in a country with a government which can tell a truth or a lie at their moral discretion. It really doesn’t matter which it is. Either way is the same to them, it’s all about getting what they want, whatever that is. We don’t now because well everything they say may be a truth or a lie. Please just remember that if the objective is to disrupt you will fail. Because every time you post more relevant facts emerge painting just that much of a clearer picture for everyone and if you are on the wrong side of truth every time you post you are working against yourself. It’s great! That’s probably why the Daily Beast stopped showing user comments below their articles. Now they can say whatever they want and suffer less.
Father Knows Best doesn't need to reveal his secrets. He looks like an incompetent buffoon either way, attempting to explain why killing terrorists is BAD when the Russkies do it, but GOOD when we do it.
"Tough as it is to swallow for Generation Wuss, a nation's military and intelligence services do need to keep secrets."
I dont usually write this as it is below my dignity, but LOL!
On the Russian news channel RT and on Youtube, the Russian Ministry of Defense posts each and every military action they undertake in Syria, complete with explanatory diagrams for the dummies.
So maybe, when a nation (for instance, the USA) keeps its military actions secret, it's because there is not much to show.
"a nation's military and intelligence services do need to keep secrets."
Nothing secret about being able to take pictures from space.
Dear god my government is getting desperate. Why wouldn't the Iranian government be the ones reporting this if it did indeed happen? And if it did after having their consent to send the missiles through their airspace it's a non story politically besides the innocent lives lost.
I think that pervading stink is fear, not desperation.
The penny is finally dropping inside the beltway.
We live in interesting times.
Y'all know why it appears as though Russia’s military is far superior to the US Army when it comes to fighting terror?
Because their military when told to go kill somebody goes and fucking kills somebody and doesn't worry about courts martialed, collateral damage, murder, transsexual participation on the killing fields or whether you can tell, anybody whether you're gay or not.
Naw
It's because the Russians are actually trying to kill them.
The US has no interest in killing its proxies, at least not until they've finished the job and removed Assad.
They can track Russian missiles, but cannot track the dissappearance of MH370 near the highly contested South China Sea. Likely story.
Or the three trillion missing from ther accounting books.
who can tell the differnce anyway? it's all sand and desolation.
At least they didn't hit a hospital.
Too soon?
I don't believe they are on the up and up. Just sayin.
"FOUR RUSSIAN CRUISE MISSILES LANDED IN IRAN, U.S. OFFICIAL SAYS"
Yo, yo, skankhole official, if you can figure that out (assuming it's the first truth you've ever spewed forth in your paltry life), then you should be able to UN-REDACT those 28 pages of redactions from the 9/11 Commission Report.
You know, those pages which demonstrate that 9/11 was a joint Saudi-US operation!
Get to it, scum bag!
Make it happen!
First time I've ever downvoted you. Don't you thnk the Saudis being able to fly out, the publicly disclosed "secret" pages, etc, are obvious attempts at scapegoating when the more real partner was Mossad?
Saudis may have financed and sent some terrorizer posers, sure, but Urban Moving? Dancing Israelis? FBI arrests? Art students? PNAC?
Come on.
Yea? Did any of them hit a hospital?
Sources are a matter of National "Security" and cannot be divilged. Requesting surces be divulged, is...treason.
OK...our sources are.....oh shit, their chopper just crashed in some remote desert location.
American cruise missiles don't work 100% of the time, either. Iranians knew this could happen before they gave permission to the Russians to use their airspace as a conduit to Syria.
Non-story.
I was in Desert Storm and we had more misses than were publicly reported and only four out of the total ain't bad, except we don't know how many misses happened inside Syria....
Yeah! Ask the Chinese. Oooops!
It's only a story to seed a message of doubt.
So if an incident like USS LIBERTY happens again, guess who gets the finger of blame pointed at them.
I believe Lyndon Johnson is dead (thank the gods) and John McCain's daddy is also dead, and therefore not around to cover it up, so what would your answer be?
Probably malfunctioned just out of nowhere, go figure.