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Trump's Success Exposes America's Winner-Loser Society

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Everywhere you look - from political campaigns, both Democratic and Republican, that are focused on the haves and have-nots, to much of the Internet - people are upset. They are angry that they are being bullied by folks who have more power - and sometimes lots more money — than they have.

You feel a tension in America now between “us” and “them.” This is not about the usual suspects of polarization - conservatives and liberals. It is “us” and those myriad groups that the public feels have disempowered them. Because bullying isn’t just an issue for children any more. It is an issue - perhaps the issue - for everyone.

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Trump is a beneficiary of something ubiquitous in America today: The United States is a winner and loser society.

That is how most Americans think of it. We have long been told that anyone in this country who wants to succeed, can. Casting aside the increasing impediments to social mobility, such as high college tuition costs and the loss of high-paid, blue-collar jobs, the onus is entirely on the individual. Surveys show that Americans strongly believe it. In fact, among industrialized nations, Americans are the only people who believe that they have the power to determine their own destiny.

Yet, however much Americans espouse it, that belief is shakier than we let on. Many Americans increasingly feel, deep down, that the game is rigged. That the people who run this country - the economic, political and intellectual elites - get all the advantages. Average Joe can’t win.

We know people feel this way because they say so. It is what unites Tea Party activists and Senator Bernie Sanders’ supporters, reactionaries and radicals. Both sides rail at the abuse of power and the power of abuse.  They may not agree on much, but they see themselves as victims of the same force: bullies.

Read more here at Reuters...

 

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Sat, 10/10/2015 - 15:21 | 6653137 AlaricBalth
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The best way to fight bullies is to punch them in the mouth!!!
Stop expecting others to protect you.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 15:27 | 6653152 Deathrips
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Rather than punch them in the mouth first..try to stop using their controls (fiat) and let them accumulate piles of promises people want nothing of. If they try and force you to use thier rigged neofuedal control....THEN, Punch em in the mouth!!!

 

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Sat, 10/10/2015 - 15:37 | 6653167 Latina Lover
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"Many Americans increasingly feel, deep down, that the game is rigged. That the people who run this country - the economic, political and intellectual elites - get all the advantages. Average Joe can’t win."

Truer words have never been spoken during this Election Cycle. This is why the TPP is a state secret. It is designed to benefit the banksters and their captive corporations at the expense of everyone else. 

Too bad Washington couldn't be relocated in Syria. Talk about a target rich terrorist environment.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:01 | 6653221 LetThemEatRand
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The most obvious example to most Americans was TARP.  The public flooded Congress with calls and letters coming out against it.  By some accounts public opinion was 100:1 against TARP.  But it passed anyway.   Then there was the complete lack of enforcement of the laws that were broken that led to the "need" for TARP.   It is not hyperbole to say we exist in a rigged system.  Get busted with a small amount of drugs or commit any variety of other minor crimes?  Do major time.  Crash the entire financial system?  Not only do no time, but don't even get arrested.  And get rich on the way up, the way down, and on the way up again. 

And of course there's the perfectly legal offshoring of jobs, zero interest rates for savers, double digit (sometimes triple digit) interest rates for small-time borrowers, and on and on and on.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:16 | 6653257 Hugh_Jass
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Nothing is inherently wrong with the items listed at the end of your post. Whether small or large, publicly-listed or private, businesses must maximize value for shareholders in the given environment.

The key question that no one asks, is why do businesses do those things to begin with? It's due to the rigged system in which we must operate. It's why people are John Galting it to better jurisdictions that actually appreciate their efforrts instead of milking them to death.

The Empire is in its final stage of decline due to its own implementation of the aforementioned practices.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:34 | 6653302 Seasmoke
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And still the intelligent morons I hang around with on the soccer and football fields do not understand this very simple in your face FACT. It's like 2008 never even happened !!!!!

Sun, 10/11/2015 - 03:20 | 6654636 Rock On Roger
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Jonestown.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 17:39 | 6653492 NihilistZero
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What we are seeing is the decline of Federal institutions in both their legitimacy AND their influence. The people don't want fraudulent free trade, we get it anyway. That said the government wants illegal pot, but their is no reasonable enforcement mecanisim to stop it. To try would expose their impotency. I'm an optimist in that I don't think we're degenerating into a full on police state. I think the Federal Government will focus it's power on national defense and work hand in hand with the local authorities in the major metropolises to maintain the illusion of control. Much as Rome lost control of the various provinces during it's decline, I expect the Federal Government will become less influential across the nation. As we learned from the collapse of the USSR you can't project power when you're broke. Bring on the fed's fade ASAP....

Sun, 10/11/2015 - 03:15 | 6654627 OldPhart
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We don't agree much, but, on this, you've hit the nail on the head.

Back in 2008 I tried to get the brain-dead town hall to lynch the fuckin' representative Jerry Lewis for voting against, he admitted, the vocal, email and written mail against TARP.  Had twenty yards of rope around me, and the Junior College had many adequate trees and lightposts.

Whole fuckin' crowd cheered, not one came up to grab his ass.

I couldn't because I was on the floor below and his staff was in my way.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:34 | 6653305 SILVERGEDDON
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i WOULD RATHER ROUNDHOUSE KICK THEM IN THE NUTS.

Much more satisfying.  

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:05 | 6653231 TeethVillage88s
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Dude, love the Icon, but wouldn't the Bankers and Jewish Bankers both put you in jail and sue for damages... probably they have a lawyer in the family.

Sun, 10/11/2015 - 02:55 | 6654611 OldPhart
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When dealing with a bully you go for the eyes.  You punch, flat handed, to the nose.  That causes vision to tear and fade.  Then an immediate thumb to either eye, and a thumb to the other as they wince away.  Blinded, it's multiple kicks to the nuts, returned eye gouges, and rolling them over your sholders to slam them into concrete/asphalt/dirt.  Wrap your right arm around their neck with their chin as high as possible,  Lock your hands together and continue to squeeze the neck.

Depending on your vengence they pass out, or you remain in such position that they die.  That's up to you, once you have obtained the position.

.But first, you have to remove their vision.  By any means necessary.

Sun, 10/11/2015 - 03:08 | 6654622 Rock On Roger
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This says it all...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWwGXIjxbnI

 

Rock On

Sun, 10/11/2015 - 03:21 | 6654619 OldPhart
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When dealing with a bully you go for the eyes.  You punch, flat handed, to the nose.  That causes vision to tear and fade.  Then an immediate thumb to either eye, and a thumb to the other as they wince away.  Blinded, it's multiple kicks to the nuts, returned eye gouges, and rolling them over your sholders to slam them into concrete/asphalt/dirt.  Wrap your right arm around their neck with their chin as high as possible,  Lock your hands together and continue to squeeze the neck.

Depending on your vengence they pass out, or you remain in such position that they die.  That's up to you, once you have obtained the position.

Be prepared to deal with it.

But first, you have to remove their vision.  By any means necessary.

Sorry, was editing and someone commented, otherwise this is a double post.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 15:29 | 6653156 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Fuck _Average Joe_, I want my effin' money, motherfucker.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:03 | 6653227 TeethVillage88s
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What do you think, short NASDAQ or Tech Stocks?

If so I don't think I know how to do that with options and options don't have great visibility to them.

So do you suggest some ETF type Fund where I'd have to risk like $5K at a time?

I guess I don't have a broker with FX Trading and some of the fancy stuff.

- ZH had an article about shorting the S&P 500 in the after hours,... not sure how to do that.

Thanks in advance

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 17:10 | 6653404 TeethVillage88s
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Thanks in reply for the down vote.

Guess you are from Reddit.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 15:48 | 6653199 ebworthen
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Tear down the establishment!  Kill the Kleptoligarchy!

Stop paying your taxes and health insurance premiums and mortgages!

They'll be on their knees if we all did it at once; off with the money-changer's heads!

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:29 | 6653291 Seasmoke
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Absolute fucking lutey !!!!!

However, I have done this and couldn't get one person I know to join me. Good luck getting 90 million.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:44 | 6653330 Yen Cross
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 Start a small non-profit, for the children, and then rent a space to speak your Sermon.

Once you have a decent congregation, you can start the "brain washing" from the bottom up.

 That's how TOTUS Maximus does it.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 17:08 | 6653398 TeethVillage88s
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meh, ebworthen said something right. You guys are half steppin'.

What no Ideas?

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 18:55 | 6653723 Yen Cross
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 Thanks for the reply. You just solidified the pretext of my original comment.

  You're banished to the Drudge "RINO" Report.

 

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 15:51 | 6653203 TeethVillage88s
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Center for Syncretic Studies

- Just found a cross reference to National Anarchism (Further evolution for the Radical Right)

National-Anarchism is a radical, anti-capitalist, anti-Marxist, anti-statist, right-wing political, economic, social and cultural ideology which emphasizes ethnopluralism, neotribalism, traditionalism, mutualism and communalism.[1] First-wave National-Anarchists advocate that different ethnic and racial groups should peacefully coexist by developing separately in their own confederations of autonomous tribal communes within a post-capitalist stateless society.[1][2]

The term National Anarchism dates back as far as the 1920s.[1] However, it has been primarily redefined and popularized since the 1990s by British agitator Troy Southgate to promote a synthesis of ideas from the Conservative Revolutionary movement, Traditionalist School, Third Positionism, Nouvelle Droite, and various anarchist schools of thought.[3] National-Anarchists therefore argue they hold a syncretic political stance that is "beyond left and right" because they believe the conventional left–right political spectrum is obsolete and should be replaced with a centralist–decentralist paradigm.[4]

The few scholars who have studied National-Anarchism counter that it represents a further evolution in the thinking of the radical right rather than an entirely new dimension.[5][6][7] National-Anarchism has elicited skepticism and outright hostility from both left- and right-wing critics. The former accuse National-Anarchists of being white nationalists who are misappropriating a sophisticated post-left anarchist critique of problems with the modern world only to offer ethnic and racial separatism as the solution, while the latter argue they want the militant chic of calling themselves "anarchists" without the historical and philosophical baggage that accompanies such a claim.[2][8][9]

Ideology:

The Conservative Revolutionary concept of the Anarch, as articulated by Jünger, is central to National-Anarchism.[1] National-Anarchists see the artificial hierarchies inherent in the state and capitalism as systematically oppressive and environmentally destructive. They distance themselves from fascism and Marxism as statist and totalitarian,[3] and reject Nazism as the discredited ideology of a failed dictatorship.[3]

National-Anarchists see modernity, liberalism, materialism, consumerism, immigration, multiracialism, multiculturalism, and globalization as the primary causes of the social decline of nations and cultural identity.[1] They stress a strategic and ideological alliance of racial separatists in the Western world, neo-Eurasianists in Russia, Islamists in Muslim-majority countries, autonomist and secessionist movements in the least developed countries, and anti-Zionists everywhere to resist the "New World Order" — globalization viewed as an instrument of Jewish-dominated international banking and American imperialism — that is inevitably leading to global economic collapse and ecological collapse.[1][9]

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 17:05 | 6653389 TeethVillage88s
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Well...I know Dutchboy did not down vote.

I guess people that don't see the protesters stopping wars, stopping abusive and dangerous work practices, and...

Don't see how the death, mayhem, and beatings that workers in the US took to defend family... and for the ideas of Freedom takes place in protesting.

US People don't see that Revolution comes from protests, activism...

So "Thanks for the Down Vote to let me say this bitch!"

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 15:54 | 6653206 mcsean2163
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go Bernie, go bernie!

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:25 | 6653275 tenpanhandle
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That was not the point.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:02 | 6653222 VWAndy
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Well it sure aint based on merit.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:03 | 6653225 Outlaw_Rambler
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Don't trust Trump. His speeches seem to be way too fucking perfect.  Like if he is just saying exactly what you want him to say. 

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:06 | 6653235 VWAndy
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Much like the last 6 or 7 twoface scoundrels we been thru.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:11 | 6653247 Outlaw_Rambler
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The right man is among underdogs 

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:26 | 6653279 tenpanhandle
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The right man is under dogs.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:14 | 6653255 Bloodstock
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LoL! Yeah right I don't trust the man nor do I trust you. So who is the better choice of the shit sandwich choice that will be on the ballot? Since Trump at least has the balls to kick the pc crap in the face, I will vote for Trump if he is on the ballot. However if my neighbor or the chick down the street were on the ballot, either of them would be a better choice.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:23 | 6653270 Collapsed_Elast...
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Say what you want, I'm writing in Putin.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:45 | 6653332 silverer
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You mean like Hillary's speeches?

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:10 | 6653244 ToSoft4Truth
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Shadows of Europe’s 1933 transformation, America is ripe for transformation.  Which race will be left standing? 

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:29 | 6653292 tenpanhandle
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Fundamental transformation has already occured.  Long live the Republic.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:25 | 6653277 FlacoGee
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THAT IS A LOT OF BOLD.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:32 | 6653289 I Write Code
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Neal Gabler, you ought to say so, fwiw.  But who put that headline on the article, which is a freakin' MOVIE REVIEW of "The Gift"?

The social change it pretends to comment on is hardly news, the social contract in the US changed in the friggin' 1980s, the "masters of the universe" times that gave us The Donald.  It's been straight downhill since then, economically, for the average citizen, the rising tide has NOT raised all the boats.  The current 1% society, economy dates from about then.  What does that give you?  Obama.  Romney.  Trump.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:34 | 6653300 silverer
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Take Obamacare for instance.  If you make 40K or less, the cost is not unreasonable.  As low as $35.00 a month.  But if you decide you want to join the ranks of the higher-ups, you might find yourself stuck on your upward mobility plan, paying 40K a year on your health insurance once you break into those higher tax brackets.  It's one thing for established millionaires in large businesses, but another thing totally for a person rising in leveraged growth mode.  It might as well be 11 inch thick armor plate blocking your path.  I get the feeling the government doesn't want you there.  You are competition to the established "club".

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:37 | 6653311 steve2241
Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:58 | 6653368 Gab Timov
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The government will continue to alienate the citizens until...

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 16:40 | 6653319 Gab Timov
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The game is not only rigged, but also too expensive to play at this point. Game over, basically. New game. Game on.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 17:14 | 6653415 quadratic_equation
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Then we should go back to gold and silver as money instead of the fiat being shoved to us, peasants.  Gold and silver or any precious metals cannot be controlled by the elites or the government, it will bankrupt them.  The only reason of the fiat currency is to control us slaves.  That's also the reason why we have the haves and don't haves.  Oh, please don't flaunt the digital currency because that can be controlled by the gov' t if they want to and it's also impractical in emergencies when power is gone.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 19:14 | 6653772 Duc888
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"Gold and silver or any precious metals cannot be controlled by the elites or the government"

 

Government can tax it.

 

Short memory?  Government can confiscate it.

Mon, 10/12/2015 - 19:36 | 6660703 LooseLee
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If we go back to honest money, we the people will tell the gov't what to do. No tax on 'money'; which is an idea only a PINKO FASCIST COMMIE could conceive anyhow!

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 17:43 | 6653491 Dre4dwolf
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The problem is taxation, banking and monetary policy as well as regulation limiting peoples ability to build and shape the future.

Those are the problems holding the country back and preventing people from succeeding, its not the 1950s ripe with opportunity.

 

The banks hold most of the blame for the  situation the country is in, if half these banks went under and real banking institutions utilizing real currency replaced them, the country would roar into an economic powerhouse again.

The banks are destroying the country from the inside out.

The government is making enemies abroad to provide pressure from outside in.

And simultaneously the govt is limiting through taxation the wealth small individuals can accumulate.

 

You cant even win the fucking lotto without government taking half +, its not enough that the game is rigged with math, they rig it with outright theft as well lol

The entire economy is structured like that, if you somehow manage to dig yourself out of a hole, government and banks will take half your shit and put you back in the hole, and more often than not the new hole is deeper than the last.

 

The only way the average joe can win is by refusing to play, and we all know what happens when you refuse to play, the govt comes and flips your game-board over and ruins your life.

 

Government and Banks are interested in only one thing, expanding how much of the economy they consume.

That means that you have to consume less so government and banks can consume more.

Your well being and success isn't even on their drawing board, infact they want you to fail and stop consuming, because it makes consumption for them cheaper.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 18:29 | 6653657 U4 eee aaa
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vote with your wallet is job one. People will complain about the power structures but then blindly hand over their money to the corporations that are partially responsible for that oppression.

Banks are an obvious choice here but many of the mega corps are no different

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 19:13 | 6653768 Duc888
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Hey, let me print my own fucking money and all my stress goes away.  It's that simple.

Sat, 10/10/2015 - 19:25 | 6653797 Jorgen
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Sun, 10/11/2015 - 08:54 | 6654862 FredFlintstone
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I traveled on business to DC last week and a congressman was on board. A person in my entourage was bitching later on that day saying "I have two questions for the congressman: why do we have to pay you your salary for the resp of your life even if you only served 1 term and why is insider trading OK for you, but not for the rest of us?" Not sure he had all of his facts 100% correct, but I just listened. This colleague did not strike me as that astute or attuned to current events, plus he has keeps a small American flag pinned inside his brief case, so I was a bit surprised by his anger. I don't think his 3 children, all in their 20's, are doing that great financially with them moving in and out of his house on an as-needed basis including one that is married and has a child.

Sometimes it is easier to deal with personal misfortune, but to see hopes and dreams fading for children and grandchildren may be especially hard to deal with. If it takes a generation or two for us to reach third world status, TPTB may be able to hold it all together as our failings can be seen as personal and we harbor shame and internalize it. If it happens quicker they may have their hands full keeping the anger in check of guys like my colleague who will then see it as something being "done to us by others".

 

I have another colleague that I have written about before who I get the sense that he knows something is really fucked up with our government and foreign policy, but he hopes they keep doing what they are doing since he has two children he has to provide for. So I think he would rather not know we are killing in the Middle East to keep the petro dollar in place and our MIC is running roughshod over the planet as long as he keeps getting a paycheck his kids have a future. He is fully and willfully plugged into the matrix. He wants to keep chewing that steak and you better not pull that plug out from the back of his skull. Wait until he sees the price tag on a college education. Wait until his kids come back home to live with him when they cannot find a job. Then perhaps the scales will fall from his eyes.

Sun, 10/11/2015 - 11:35 | 6655236 Kayman
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In the textbook free market, winners and losers all have a similar chance.  In corrupt America, the government has protected its monied friends and you have no chance. 

Trump as President is a huge risk.  All the other candidates are even more.

Sun, 10/11/2015 - 09:04 | 6654895 My Days Are Get...
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From Reuters:

 

Not only because the bullies wield the power, but also because their success seems to wash away all their sins.

 

No yacht broker ever asked a customer where he got his boat money.

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Sun, 10/11/2015 - 09:17 | 6654914 maxamus
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But why didn't all the poor people just buy stocks a few years ago???

Sun, 10/11/2015 - 11:40 | 6655249 Kayman
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Poor people unwittingly have bought stock in America Inc. -  Revenue is declining while Debt is increasing exponentially.  Fortunately, the major stockholders are getting America Inc. to buy back their shares.

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