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Obama Defends The Failure Of His Syria Policy Before A Belligerent 60 Minutes
Yesterday, in a comprehensive takedown of Obama's handling of the second Syrian proxy war in three years (which is not over yet), we summarized events as follows: "The Tragic Ending To Obama's Bay Of Pigs: CIA Hands Over Syria To Russia."
The facts, which are largely undisputed, confirm this: having achieved no progress "against ISIS", the stated goal of US intervention in Syria, and no progress in kicking Assad out of office and starting the Qatar has pipeline to Europe, the real goal of US intervention in Syria, the top democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, Adam Schiff, said that Obama "is debating the merits of taking further action or whether they are better off letting Putin hang himself."
By "hanging himself", the democrat meant handing Syria over to the Kremlin on a silver platter aafter just a few short weeks of Russian military intervention in Syria which has crushed US supply routes to ISIS and other CIA-sponsored rebel groups, and once again - just like in 2013 - put a premature end to US attempts to overthrow yet another head of state.
Fast forward to today when in what may have been the most awkward 60 Minutes interview for Obama before the US nation, Steve Kroft asked Obama about Trump, about Hillary, but it was Obama's take on the US loss in (and of) Syria and the Russian gains there, and everywhere else, that demonstrated two things.
The first is just how marginalized the US has suddenly become in the global arena, with an impotent and insolvent Europe behind its back for moral if no other support, opposing a suddenly ascendant Russian axis in the middle-east, one which has China's backing, especially in the aftermath of the quite demonstrative US implementation of the TPP which is meant first and foremost to offset China's rising trade influence in the region.
The second is the extent of Obama's delusion, or perhaps it was merely his spin relying on the naivete of the US public when it comes to foreign affairs, about the abovementioned snubbing of a superpower that until recently nobody dared to challenge unilaterally in the global arena.
The full exchange is presented below. We still can't decide if Kroft's at times near-aggressive belligerence toward the president was actually genuine, or as revealed previously especially in the case of the 2011 60 Minutes interview of Julian Assange, the host was directly instructed by the administration on how to approach the topics at hand, and to make Obama squirm on purpose, so as to make the loss more palatable to the people of America.
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Steve Kroft: The last time we talked was this time last year, and the situation in Syria and Iraq had begun to worsen vis-à-vis ISIS. You had just unveiled a plan to provide air support for troops in Iraq, and also some air strikes in Syria, and the training and equipping of a moderate Syrian force. You said that this would degrade and eventually destroy ISIS.
President Barack Obama: Over time.
Steve Kroft: Over time. It's been a year, and--
President Barack Obama: I didn't say it was going to be done in a year.
Steve Kroft: No. But you said...
President Barack Obama: There's a question in here somewhere.
Steve Kroft: There's a question in here. I mean, if you look at the situation and you're looking for progress, it's not easy to find. You could make the argument that the only thing that's changed really is the death toll, which has continued to escalate, and the number of refugees fleeing Syria into Europe.
President Barack Obama: Syria has been a difficult problem for the entire world community and, obviously, most importantly, for the people of Syria themselves that have been devastated by this civil war, caught between a brutal dictator who drops barrel bombs on his own population, and thinks that him clinging to power is more important than the fate of his country. And a barbaric, ruthless organization in ISIL and some of the al Qaeda affiliates that are operating inside of Syria. And what we've been able to do is to stall ISIL's momentum to take away some of the key land that they were holding, to push back, particularly in Iraq against some population centers that they threatened. And, in Syria, we've been able to disrupt a number of their operations. But what we have not been able to do so far, and I'm the first to acknowledge this, is to change the dynamic inside of Syria and the goal here has been to find a way in which we can help moderate opposition on the ground, but we've never been under any illusion that militarily we ourselves can solve the problem inside of Syria.
Steve Kroft: I want us to take some of these things one by one. You mentioned an awful lot of things. One, the situation with ISIS, you've managed to achieve a stalemate. So what's going to happen to ISIS?
President Barack Obama: Well, over time--
Steve Kroft: I mean, they have to be-- somebody has to take them on. I mean, what's going on right now is not working. I mean, they are still occupying big chunks of Iraq. They're still occupying a good chunk of Syria. Who's going to get rid of them?
President Barack Obama: Over time, the community of nations will all get rid of them, and we will be leading getting rid of them. But we are not going to be able to get rid of them unless there is an environment inside of Syria and in portions of Iraq in which local populations, local Sunni populations, are working in a concerted way with us to get rid of them.
Steve Kroft: You have been talking about the moderate opposition in Syria. It seems very hard to identify. And you talked about the frustrations of trying to find some and train them. You got a half a billion dollars from Congress to train and equip 5,000, and at the end, according to the commander CENTCOM, you got 50 people, most of whom are dead or deserted. He said four or five left?
President Barack Obama: Steve, this is why I've been skeptical from the get go about the notion that we were going to effectively create this proxy army inside of Syria. My goal has been to try to test the proposition, can we be able to train and equip a moderate opposition that's willing to fight ISIL? And what we've learned is that as long as Assad remains in power, it is very difficult to get those folks to focus their attention on ISIL.
Steve Kroft: If you were skeptical of the program to find and identify, train and equip moderate Syrians, why did you go through the program?
President Barack Obama: Well, because part of what we have to do here, Steve, is to try different things. Because we also have partners on the ground that are invested and interested in seeing some sort of resolution to this problem. And--
Steve Kroft: And they wanted you to do it.
President Barack Obama: Well, no. That's not what I said. I think it is important for us to make sure that we explore all the various options that are available.
Steve Kroft: I know you don't want to talk about this.
President Barack Obama: No, I'm happy to talk about it.
Steve Kroft: I want to talk about the-- this program, because it would seem to show, I mean, if you expect 5,000 and you get five, it shows that somebody someplace along the line did not-- made-- you know, some sort of a serious miscalculation.
President Barack Obama: You know, the-- the-- Steve, let me just say this.
Steve Kroft: It's an embarrassment.
President Barack Obama: Look, there's no doubt that it did not work. And, one of the challenges that I've had throughout this heartbreaking situation inside of Syria is, is that-- you'll have people insist that, you know, all you have to do is send in a few-- you know, truckloads full of arms and people are ready to fight. And then, when you start a train-and-equip program and it doesn't work, then people say, "Well, why didn't it work?" Or, "If it had just started three months earlier it would've worked."
Steve Kroft: But you said yourself you never believed in this.
President Barack Obama: Well-- but Steve, what I have also said is, is that surprisingly enough it turns out that in a situation that is as volatile and with as many players as there are inside of Syria, there aren't any silver bullets. And this is precisely why I've been very clear that America's priorities has to be number one, keeping the American people safe. Number two, we are prepared to work both diplomatically and where we can to support moderate opposition that can help convince the Russians and Iranians to put pressure on Assad for a transition. But that what we are not going to do is to try to reinsert ourselves in a military campaign inside of Syria. Let's take the situation in Afghanistan, which I suspect you'll ask about. But I wanted to use this as an example.
Steve Kroft: All right. I feel like I'm being filibustered, Mr. President.
President Barack Obama: No, no, no, no, no. Steve, I think if you want to roll back the tape, you've been giving me long questions and statements, and now I'm responding to 'em. So let's-- so-- if you ask me big, open-ended questions, expect big, open-ended answers. Let's take the example of Afghanistan. We've been there 13 years now close to 13 years. And it's still hard in Afghanistan. Today, after all the investments we have there, and we still have thousands of troops there. So the notion that after a year in Syria, a country where the existing government hasn't invited us in, but is actively keeping us out, that somehow we would be able to solve this quickly-- is--
Steve Kroft: We didn't say quickly.
President Barack Obama: --is-- is-- is an illusion. And-- and--
Steve Kroft: Nobody's expecting that, Mr. President.
President Barack Obama: Well, the-- no, I understand, but what I'm-- the simple point I'm making, Steve, is that the solution that we're going to have inside of Syria is ultimately going to depend not on the United States putting in a bunch of troops there, resolving the underlying crisis is going to be something that requires ultimately the key players there to recognize that there has to be a transition to new government. And, in the absence of that, it's not going to work.
Steve Kroft: One of the key players now is Russia.
President Barack Obama: Yeah.
Steve Kroft: A year ago when we did this interview, there was some saber-rattling between the United States and Russia on the Ukrainian border. Now it's also going on in Syria. You said a year ago that the United States-- America leads. We're the indispensible nation. Mr. Putin seems to be challenging that leadership.
President Barack Obama: In what way? Let-- let's think about this-- let-- let--
Steve Kroft: Well, he's moved troops into Syria, for one. He's got people on the ground. Two, the Russians are conducting military operations in the Middle East for the first time since World War II--
President Barack Obama: So that's--
Steve Kroft: --bombing the people-- that we are supporting.
President Barack Obama: So that's leading, Steve? Let me ask you this question. When I came into office, Ukraine was governed by a corrupt ruler who was a stooge of Mr. Putin. Syria was Russia's only ally in the region. And today, rather than being able to count on their support and maintain the base they had in Syria, which they've had for a long time, Mr. Putin now is devoting his own troops, his own military, just to barely hold together by a thread his sole ally. And in Ukraine--
Steve Kroft: He's challenging your leadership, Mr. President. He's challenging your leadership--
President Barack Obama: Well Steve, I got to tell you, if you think that running your economy into the ground and having to send troops in in order to prop up your only ally is leadership, then we've got a different definition of leadership. My definition of leadership would be leading on climate change, an international accord that potentially we'll get in Paris. My definition of leadership is mobilizing the entire world community to make sure that Iran doesn't get a nuclear weapon. And with respect to the Middle East, we've got a 60-country coalition that isn't suddenly lining up around Russia's strategy. To the contrary, they are arguing that, in fact, that strategy will not work.
Steve Kroft: My point is-- was not that he was leading, my point is that he was challenging your leadership. And he has very much involved himself in the situation. Can you imagine anything happening in Syria of any significance at all without the Russians now being involved in it and having a part of it?
President Barack Obama: But that was true before. Keep in mind that for the last five years, the Russians have provided arms, provided financing, as have the Iranians, as has Hezbollah.
Steve Kroft: But they haven't been bombing and they haven't had troops on the ground--
President Barack Obama: And the fact that they had to do this is not an indication of strength, it's an indication that their strategy did not work.
Steve Kroft: You don't think--
President Barack Obama: You don't think that Mr. Putin would've preferred having Mr. Assad be able to solve this problem without him having to send a bunch of pilots and money that they don't have?
Steve Kroft: Did you know he was going to do all this when you met with him in New York?
President Barack Obama: Well, we had seen-- we had pretty good intelligence. We watch--
Steve Kroft: So you knew he was planning to do it.
President Barack Obama: We knew that he was planning to provide the military assistance that Assad was needing because they were nervous about a potential imminent collapse of the regime.
Steve Kroft: You say he's doing this out of weakness. There is a perception in the Middle East among our adversaries, certainly and even among some of our allies that the United States is in retreat, that we pulled our troops out of Iraq and ISIS has moved in and taken over much of that territory. The situation in Afghanistan is very precarious and the Taliban is on the march again. And ISIS controls a large part of Syria.
President Barack Obama: I think it's fair to say, Steve, that if--
Steve Kroft: It's-- they-- let me just finish the thought. They say your--
President Barack Obama: You're--
Steve Kroft: --they say you're projecting a weakness, not a strength--
President Barack Obama: --you're saying "they," but you're not citing too many folks. But here--
Steve Kroft: No, I'll cite-- I'll cite if you want me, too.
President Barack Obama: --here-- yes. Here--
Steve Kroft: I'd say the Saudis. I'd say the Israelis. I'd say a lot of our friends in the Middle East. I'd say everybody in the Republican party. Well, you want me to keep going?
President Barack Obama: Yeah. The-- the-- if you are-- if you're citing the Republican party, I think it's fair to say that there is nothing I've done right over the last seven and a half years. And I think that's right. It-- and-- I also think what is true is that these are the same folks who were making an argument for us to go into Iraq and who, in some cases, still have difficulty acknowledging that it was a mistake. And Steve, I guarantee you that there are factions inside of the Middle East, and I guess factions inside the Republican party who think that we should send endless numbers of troops into the Middle East, that the only measure of strength is us sending back several hundred thousand troops, that we are going to impose a peace, police the region, and-- that the fact that we might have more deaths of U.S. troops, thousands of troops killed, thousands of troops injured, spend another trillion dollars, they would have no problem with that. There are people who would like to see us do that. And unless we do that, they'll suggest we're in retreat.
Steve Kroft: They'll say you're throwing in the towel--
President Barack Obama: No. Steve, we have an enormous presence in the Middle East. We have bases and we have aircraft carriers. And our pilots are flying through those skies. And we are currently supporting Iraq as it tries to continue to build up its forces. But the problem that I think a lot of these critics never answered is what's in the interest of the United States of America and at what point do we say that, "Here are the things we can do well to protect America. But here are the things that we also have to do in order to make sure that America leads and America is strong and stays number one." And if in fact the only measure is for us to send another 100,000 or 200,000 troops into Syria or back into Iraq, or perhaps into Libya, or perhaps into Yemen, and our goal somehow is that we are now going to be, not just the police, but the governors of this region. That would be a bad strategy Steve. And I think that if we make that mistake again, then shame on us.
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And just like that the US foray in Syria is unofficially over.
The sad thing is that for all the fake posturing by both Kroft and Obama, the US may still very well make this mistake and send 100,000 or 200,000 troops under the leadership of the Nobel Peace Prize winner, especially if our assessment of what the US withdrawal from the middle-east means for the upcoming dramatic shift in the regional balance of power.
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The rest of the interview is primarily focused on domestic affairs, i.e., Trump, Hillary's emails and Biden's latest presidential run, which for the purpose of this post or the opinions coming from a lame duck president, are irrelevant.
At the end of the interview, Kroft asks Obama if he's glad he can't run for president again. Obama says he feels a mixture of satisfaction at what he's accomplished and a desire to still do more.
Kroft then asks him: "Do you think if you ran again, could run again, and did run again, you would be elected?"
"Yes," says Obama, without missing a beat.
Judging by the "changing" IQ landscape in the US over the past eight years, the golfer-in-chief well be right.
Because just as the Obama was saying this, the following tweet hit the tape:
After nearly 5 hours at Torrey Pines in La Jolla, CA., Pres Obama has departed the golf course.
— Mark Knoller (@markknoller) October 12, 2015
Somewhere Putin is laughing.
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I like watching 60 Minutes, but I couldn't bare listening to that puke tonight....I'd rather stick pins in my eyes and watch Donnie & Marie re-runs. I had to change the channel....
Dear CBS, thanks for getting tough on Obama. You're seven years late, you worthless cunts.
please. This was the same douche that asked Barry is he was "punch drunk" over the GM bailout post 08. Scripted.
And ZH thinks that there is still real media on a 3-letter broadcast network?
The question should be, "what,exactly.. do they want us to take away from this interview?"
That it's totally unfair to interview a sitting president if he doesn't get to use his telepropter? The guy is abuffoon without a telepropter and they sent him in without it. Unfair, unfair, unfair!
With respect to POTUS can you say 'Loser'?
He was doing an impression of Monty Python's Black Knight.
https://youtu.be/dhRUe-gz690
<chuckle>
I am Chumbawamba.
All he had to say was the same party line from before, "It would have been a lot worse if we hadn't _______"
It's like I have to do everyone's job now.
Main takeaway from this interview: Israel is mad at us. We are letting our masters down.
More stagecraft to obfuscate the real issues. We are supposed to believe not that the longstanding policy of causing discord in the ME and supporting terrorists as they overthrow imperfect but secular governments isn't the problem but rather that Obama is weak. Barry is just taking one for the team so that the real issues can be ignored.
Laughable commentary from the teleprompter in chief. Obama has clearly passed his political sell by date, and mixing metaphors, should be put out to pasture.
Secretly, when he is fondling Reggies balls, I'll bet Obama fantasies Putin.
Nearly 7 years for the MSM to begin to get real with the Kenyan.
Disgusting.
People never forget, Barry. Better learn how to bob and weave. Globalist dictators never learn that people don't let them exist for long.
I don't understand the concept of ''You have to give us all your stuff because we come from a horrible place.'' I know you come from a war zone and I really do feel bad for you, but I see no reason to give you my stuff, because that would make my country as #$%$ as the place you just escaped. That isn't even a short term solution, how do you expect me to let this happen without a fight?
My advice to everyone everywhere is this quote from one of our wisest elders: Thomas Jefferson.
"The most important reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, if necessary, at last resort to protect themselves from tyranny in government."
When the invaders are welcomed with open arms by the very government tasked with defending the people from invaders, that is tyranny. Tyranny in disguise, if you wish to call it that, but tyranny nonetheless. That is why you should be ready to shoot these ''refugees'' in the face without hesitation and without sympathy for their ''humanitarian plight.''
Sorry, I am not giving you my stuff, regardless of whatever awful thing you are currently fleeing. My advice to refugees: Fight back, that's what most people do.
"I don't understand the concept of 'You have to give us all your stuff because we come from a horrible place.' "
It's cultural, I guess.
/s
Hey Chumba you should know a few things about ruining stuff, you ruin Zerohedge Chat. Guess you and Obama have a lot in common, besides stampeding when in Mecca. You are exactly like those illegal muslims in Europe, you think you are entitled to take over, guess you follow the Koran very closely.
We're all about the real issues.......climate change and gun confiscation.
What's Putin doing about climate change.....nothing that's what. Vlad doesn't chase fairy tales.
BTW Barry.....when 60 minutes comes after you.....it's freakin over.
Yes, the lost war on climate change ended at MIT.
Ok: On Tyler's position:
"handing Syria over to the Kremlin on a silver platter"
"US loss in (and of) Syria"
"marginalized... in the global arena"
"relying on the naivete of the US public"
Reggie was pretty upset, rumor has it.
type a asshole(chum)
Servile puppet Kroft! The only thing he's concerned about is the fading influence of the world policeman and the concerns of Saudis, Israelis and other "friends" in the Middle East. The fact that Obama perhaps avoided unutterable suffering of many or even WW3 is not even mentioned.
Maybe we underestimate the role of Obama. Maybe he's just saved thousands or millions of lives by thwarting the plans that could have cast the world into catastrophe. Even if it's commonly perceived as 'weakness'.
"Maybe we underestimate the role of Obama. Maybe he's just saved thousands or millions of lives by thwarting the plans that could have cast the world into catastrophe."
Meanwhile, your lying, race-baiting Marxist Muslim dictator and his cronies continue to destroy this country and crush individual freedoms.
Keep living on the plantation and believing in that hopey dopey changey thingy.
The country is being destroyed by itself by the sheeple and lazy ignorants voting the same puppets over and over again. Each country has the government it deserves.
Fortunately, I'm not dependent on believing in that hopey dopey changey thingy as long as Russia and China are capable of restraining the US adventures.
@anasteus
Obirdbrain didn't save shit dude. Obirdbrain and Hillary STARTED the Syrian war at the same time they destroyed LIbya. They have KILLED hundreds of thousands! The "perception" is of bloody murderers!
Grimaldus
All of y'all are just disappointed that we didn't have twice the war monger in office so that we would:
1.) Not "hand Syria over" to anybody but take it for ourselves.
2.) Call anyone questioning President McCain's foreign policy a limp-wristed traitor.
3.) "Win" with "our team" in the "global arena". (And make the banksters and Saudi's happy.)
4.) Marginalize the "naive" anti-war voices even more than MSNBCNNFOX already do.
Where do you get off with that steaming pile? Ever read the comment section - for comprehension? You are like Don Quixote dude, lay off the windmills. I, for one, have said numerous times that I last voted for McCain - to my everlasting shame.
Won't get fooled again...
So the tyrants are shoveling in the "invaders" (mercenairies in my view) - and you want to shoot the invaders. I see.
Sheep.
People never forget?
BS. People are readily led time after time into war by the likes of any recent US president. They always fall for the 'new Hitler' bs. There is no challenge to the US MIC murdering left right and center as long as i) the victims are poor and / or dark colored ii) the home game isn't affected.
"Tell them they are under attack and question their patriotism" - Goering
/some people remember
Those who are hiding in the shadows and control him, set him up to take the hit. Period.
Please. Barry is no victim. He is part of the problem, not part of the solution.
In the late summer of 2007(around August), a particular Islamic cleric in Britain openly stated in an interview that: "We will use Europe's own democratic institutions to destroy you from within, just wait until we are the majority, the dreams of the Islamic conquerors of old shall be realized, we are marching on Europe, no negotiation, no peace, only submission". He then added: "Europe should prepare to accept Islam or face a jihad that will be most unmerciful". And that is the European Islamist at his core, a true fifth column. When they don't stab, behead, shoot, burn and riot/protest aggressively over perceived criticism or an "insult"(or choose to totally misunderstand a simple misunderstanding), they try to suppress free speech by passing blasphemy laws along with sharia. And the apologetic/groveling Leftist governments/parties who started this multi-culti mess along with the imploding welfare economies and states, helps them along in that. For "tolerance", and the laughably absurd claim of fighting "fascism". Never-mind the Irony that such tolerance is non-existent in the Islamic countries they come from, and they bring that paranoid/frenzied intolerance with them. If and when the caliphate of Europe is proclaimed however, guaranteed that those Leftist will be first on the chopping block, probably dragged to it while groveling on and on with shameless apologies. Europe, you are in serious trouble, take a stand or fall, and we are following
Some of the followers of Middle Eastern religions are quite odd. Make sure you pass along these additional quotes in the future so that facts can be known.
Jeez!!! What is this Cosmos chick or dude or whatever going on and on with the anti-Muslim rant schtick while that's not even the topic here???
You say Chumbawamba ruined ZH chat? And you're helping to keep it classy and relevant I'm guessing. OK folks, we need to change focus here and discuss this EU refugee thing. Cosmus has so decided.
Whew... seek help girl. And soon. People are interacting with that dastardly Chumba. You... not so much.
lol
This is Ollie North "negotiating" the release of the release of the Iranian hostages all over again.
Poppy's CIA: 1
"Naive" American's duped into electing another future war-criminal: 0
Hijra or Hijrah is the Islamic doctrine of migration, which is a form of stealth jihad for the express purpose of spreading Islam.
75% of the so-called refugees (aka Muslims) arriving into the socialist welfare countries of Europe are male and young.
They come from all over the Middle East and Africa.
https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2015/09/07/unhcr-data-con...
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/09/06/the-new-face-of-eu...
http://www.independentsentinel.com/what-you-should-know-about-the-massiv...
http://www.wnd.com/2015/09/isis-smuggler-we-will-use-refugee-crisis-to-i...
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/260019/hijrah-europe-robert-spencer
"Some of the followers of Middle Eastern religions are quite odd. Make sure you pass along these additional quotes in the future so that facts can be known."
Billy forgot to mention these quotes:
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei: “It is the mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to erase Israel from the map of the region.” (2001)
Hassan Nasrallah, a leader of Hezbollah: “If they [Jews] all gather in Israel, it will save us the trouble of going after them worldwide.” (2002)
Nasrallah: “Israel is our enemy. This is an aggressive, illegal, and illegitimate entity, which has no future in our land. Its destiny is manifested in our motto: ‘Death to Israel.’” (2005)
Yahya Rahim Safavi, the former commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps: “With God’s help the time has come for the Zionist regime’s death sentence.” (2008)
Mohammad Hassan Rahimian, Khamenei’s representative to the Moustazafan Foundation: “We have manufactured missiles that allow us, when necessary to replace [sic] Israel in its entirety with a big holocaust.” (2010)
Mohammad Reza Naqdi, the commander of the Basij paramilitary force: “We recommend them [the Zionists] to pack their furniture and return to their countries. And if they insist on staying, they should know that a time while arrive when they will not even have time to pack their suitcases.” (2011)
Ahmad Alamolhoda, a member of the Assembly of Experts: “The destruction of Israel is the idea of the Islamic Revolution in Iran and is one of the pillars of the Iranian Islamic regime. We cannot claim that we have no intention of going to war with Israel.” (2013)
Nasrallah: “The elimination of Israel is not only a Palestinian interest. It is the interest of the entire Muslim world and the entire Arab world.” (2013)
Hojateleslam Alireza Panahian, the advisor to Office of the Supreme Leader in Universities: “The day will come when the Islamic people in the region will destroy Israel and save the world from this Zionist base.” (2013)
Hojatoleslam Ali Shirazi, Khamenei’s representative in the Revolutionary Guard: “The Zionist regime will soon be destroyed, and this generation will be witness to its destruction." (2013)
Khamenei: “This barbaric, wolflike & infanticidal regime of Israel which spares no crime has no cure but to be annihilated.” (2014)
Hossein Salami, the deputy head of the Revolutionary Guard: "We will chase you [Israelis] house to house and will take revenge for every drop of blood of our martyrs in Palestine, and this is the beginning point of Islamic nations awakening for your defeat." (2014)
Salami: "Today we are aware of how the Zionist regime is slowly being erased from the world, and indeed, soon, there will be no such thing as the Zionist regime on Planet Earth." (2014)
Hossein Sheikholeslam, the secretary-general of the Committee for Support for the Palestinian Intifada: "The issue of Israel's destruction is important, no matter the method. We will obviously implement the strategy of the Imam Khomeini and the Leader [Khamenei] on the issue of destroying the Zionists. The region will not be quiet so long as Israel exists in it ..." (2014)
Mohammad Ali Jafari, the commander-in-chief of the Revolutionary Guard: "The Revolutionary Guards will fight to the end of the Zionist regime ... We will not rest easy until this epitome of vice is totally deleted from the region's geopolitics." (2015)
shorter version: Jacob and Esau, dude...
Those are great quotes ZD1 but to how many of those folks is the US giving billions of dollars each year? To which Middle Eastern nation did the US give the weapons which were used to kill 34 American sailors and wound 171 others aboard the USS Liberty? Let's stop supporting terrorists once and for all. Do you agree?
Declaration ofWard Boston, Jr.,Captain, JAGC, USN (Ret.)
In June of 1967, while serving as a Captain in the Judge Advocate General Corps, Department of the Navy, I was assigned as senior legal counsel for the Navy’s Court of Inquiry into the brutal attack on USS Liberty, which had occurred on June 8th.
The evidence was clear. Both Admiral Kidd and I believed with certainty that this attack, which killed 34 American sailors and injured 172 others, was a deliberate effort to sink an American ship and murder its entire crew. Each evening, after hearing testimony all day, we often spoke our private thoughts concerning what we had seen and heard. I recall Admiral Kidd repeatedly referring to the Israeli forces responsible for the attack as “murderous bastards.” It was our shared belief, based on the documentary evidence and testimony we received first hand, that the Israeli attack was planned and deliberate, and could not possibly have been an accident.
I am certain that the Israeli pilots that undertook the attack, as well as their superiors, who had ordered the attack, were well aware that the ship was American.
I saw the flag, which had visibly identified the ship as American, riddled with bullet holes, and heard testimony that made it clear that the Israelis intended there be no survivors. 1 Not only did the Israelis attack the ship with napalm, gunfire, and missiles, Israeli torpedo boats machine-gunned three lifeboats that had been launched in an attempt by the crew to save the most seriously wounded — a war crime.
http://www.usslibertydocumentcenter.org/doc/upload/Ward%20Boston%20Testi...
A thousand up votes to you, Cosmos
This isn't Chicago.
chumba, I thought the same thing. The irony is so thick you could cut it with a knife, and I bet no one in the endless commentary that will follow this interview will bring this point up(at least in an MSM outlet). We have done exactly that numerous times in the last couple decades, and we are STILL doing it now "propping up our ally" Israel and the saudis.
that's the thing. the black knight had to face consequences; obama not so much, yet.
Well, yeah, there's that.
I thought TS would HTF before 2012. Amazingly, the clowns kept the plates spinning.
Can they do it for one more year? I dunno.
I figured the way they make it through the election is to pop Housing Bubble 2.0. It's the last, best, can kicker they have IMO. Get some of those people paying 50% of their income on housing down to 40-35% and maybe they can spend some money and make the stock market PEs look a little more sane. The FED is looking suicidal to me right now. Juicing commodities, RE and equities at the same time has the walls closing in on consumers. Then again, maybe an election year meltdown is what is desired. I wonder if they have actually pissed of enough people to get someone like Trump elected. If so I'm even more troubled if Trump isn't what we think he is. Or worse EXACTLY what some of us think he is...
As in 2008 they may choose to spread the crisis over two administrations so that the false left-right dichotomy can continue and the real causes are never addressed.
As for Trump, I don't like him and I don't want him to be president but I think he's smart enough to not want to be "in charge" of the ongoing disaster that is the US government. He'll move along like Ross Pert did when the vote has been split in a way that satisfies those who pull the strings. And being Donald he'll make a few bucks on the deal.
This movement by Muslims into non-Muslim countries and areas is a tactic they have used for 1400 years to conquer and impose Islam on infidels. Muhammad showed how to use this tactic when he and his followers left Mecca and moved to the village of Yathrib , once there , they bided their time, grew in numbers , and then turned Yathrib into a Muslim city. Muhammad then changed its name and called it Medina, which meant city of the prophet. And then non-Muslim Yathrib was no more. This approach to spreading Islam is called Hijra, meaning migration in Arabic. Throughout most of the past 1400 years this tactic didn't work in Europe and America because the inhabitants knew of the intolerance and violence of Islam and wouldn't let them move in ; but now, with the liberal , multiculturalists in charge they simply allow the Muslims to move in to Europe and America. If the terrorists will just be patient and let Hijra work , the West will be conquered and taken over without having to fire a shot. If the people of the Western countries allow their leaders to do this to them , then they deserve what they get.
And those Muslims are so crafty! They tricked the US into bombing their countries and supporting terrorists who overthrew the existing governments just so that they would have an excuse to flee from their homes in terror.
in Europe and America because the inhabitants knew of the intolerance and violence of Islam
The Founding Fathers said the opposite but you probably don't find much common ground with them anyway.
Yes, those Muslims are crafty, devious and dangerous.
75% of the so-called refugees (aka Muslims) invading the socialist welfare countries of Europe are male and young.
They come from all over the Middle East and Africa where the U.S. hasn't dropped bombs.
"The Founding Fathers said the opposite but you probably don't find much common ground with them anyway."
A prominent member of Adams' cabinet, James McHenry, protested the language of article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli before its ratification.
The Treaty of Tripoli remained on the books for eight years, at which time the treaty was renegotiated without article 11.
The renegotiated 1805 treaty did not contain the phrase "not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."
That must really piss you anti-Christian muzzie loving leftists off?
http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/tripoli.htm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Tripoli
Islam is a political system masqerading as religion.
It is quite obvious but maybe not for you?
Grimaldus
state-izm-- is a religion masquerading as a political system--just saying? so what is your point exactly?????
There are millions prepared to shoot.
al-Taqiyya:
deception; the islamic word for concealing or disguising one’s beliefs, convictions, ideas, feelings, opinions, and/or strategies.
We call it politics.
Winny clever. Re. The interview. 57 states in America said, "When I came into office, Ukraine was led by a brutal proRussian puppet" Huh?
Yulia Tymoshenko - Ukrainian nationalist, elected December 2007 til March 2010
And then we have.....Putin who just said the following on the same day just a few hours ago before Barry:
As I said the other day, US has to make a choice.....either US will support Russia/Assad/Syria/Peace/Iran/Iraq.....OR....support ISIS.
I was right. US has chosen the side of ISIS instead of peace in the world!
Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed the ongoing anti-terror operation in Syria during an interview with Russian journalist Vladimir Solovyov in Sochi, Sunday.
SOT, Vladimir Putin, Russian President (Russian): "If we speak about the military component, we tell our partners, when we hear them blaming us for our strikes not hitting ISIS or other terrorist organisations like Jabhat al-Nusra and others, but the allied part of the opposition so to speak. And we told them: If you know the situation on the ground better than we do as you have been there for more than a year - unlawfully, but still you are present there - if you know better, though I doubt it but let's say, give us the targets. We will work on them."
SOT, Vladimir Solovyov, journalist (Russian): "Have they declined?"
SOT, Vladimir Putin, Russian President (Russian): "Yes, they declined. They said 'No, we will not be working on this level', it is not clear why. If they really know better and want to fight terrorism, tell us the direct locations where the terrorists are sheltering, where they have command points, ammunition depots and equipment, give us the targets. What could be easier? But so far we haven't reached such level of joint work, but I'd like to repeat that the first steps in establishing the contacts on the military level have been made."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKmydfR5pZo
this guy is the bomb.
hasn't this been said already?
Reminds me of just before Gulf War 2 when Rumsfeld said, "We know where they [Iraq's WMD] are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south, and north somewhat," but for some reason he never gave that information to the weapons inspectors on the ground.
"Reminds me of..."
The old leftist still babbling about events from the last century?
He who forgets the past is doomed to relive it.
The old leftist still babbling about events from the last century?
First of all, Gulf War 2 began in 2003 which is in the current century.
But it's much worse than that. I study history going back thousands of years. It's really a shame that you've limited yourself to the examination of less than fifteen years of human experience and you can't even get that right. That's likely why you sound so naive and even downright foolish.
The subject is Obama regime defending his Syrian failure and you're hijacking the thread to blab about something that Rumsfiled said about Iraq over a decade ago?
It's a shame that you are an arrogant old muzzie loving leftist.
Yeah, it's a shame that I can back up my assertions with facts and all you can do is call me names. Jealous much?
"Yes, they declined. They said 'No, we will not be working on this level', it is not clear why....
It was mostly a theatre prduction. Attacking Hollywood would not be kosher.
so so not. not only wouldn't you get lunch for life, no more green lights, at all.
At the bottom of the page:
Copyright ©2009-2015 ZeroHedge.com/ABC Media
http://whois.easycounter.com/zerohedge.com
So, what does this mean?
well i think we have, or haven't, heard enough.
so what the hell does it mean?? (really loud and angry)
i think it means the jews own it like everything else.
He's responding to a comment about "three letter media organizations." Maybe he's one of the folks who has confused ZH's ABC Media, Ltd. with ABC television.
I confess to not knowing what any of the shit on that link means, other than this site is owned by someone in Sofia. And ya, obviously its not ABC, as in the network. If I owned this site, I wouldn't leave it in the US either. Although the server could literally be anywhere in the world, doesn't mean the owner lives there.
Its interesting when someone comes on here with shit like that, and now here we are, talking about this, rather than the original post. Ill not be feeding them
IP address 188.126.66.74 Address type IPv4 Hostname zerohedge.com ISP Portlane Network Organization Portlane AB Timezone Europe/Stockholm (UTC+2)..
IP Address Country Region City Postal Code 188.126.66.74 SE Jämtland Ytterhogdal 84090 Organization Hostname Carrier AS42708 Portlane AB zerohedge.com None
Map:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/840+90+Ytterhogdal,+Sweden/@62.1748786...!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x466f57a667429089:0x1b8fdca0f0855f6b
what zh is doing is collecting information of critics and transmitting it to 3rd parties for money
thats including your comments, voting behavour, web history, names, logins etc
http://www.zerohedge.com/cookie-policy
a third party can be anyone
this site is also under observation by regional and international authorities
the name "christian" doesnt have to say anything from genetical point
and you can register a firm on your friend or even a non-existing person
you can host a site from several countries
Funny, here's how I interpreted the owner address information. Its a threat. Re. 3rd party info. Some people take a bullet for what they believe in. By comparison, just mouthing off is not so difficult.
Crack open the Yellow Pages and look at how many "ABC" companies there are in every city. Can there be any doubt that something like "ABC Plumbing" is closely linked to the American Broadcasting Corporation?
The conspiracy is all around us! Open your eyes, man!
Nixon had "plumbers" too. The plot thickens!
Shit. I was kinda hoping that my Zerohedge membership would get me at least 10% off at ABC Carpet. Not gonna happen?
I would have thought trademark laws would prevent there being two ABC corporations that are involved in media that overlap. They are syndicated worldwide but now I see they gave up attempts to develop ABC International.
If I were the owner of ABC Media (Not Disney but ZH) ... I would probably have both the servers and the domain name behind two or three layers of indirection. Naturally, you can't fool the NSA, but it could cut down on spam and stalkers.
So, bottom line: the domain owner could be anywhere; the servers could be anywhere, and are probably at several anywheres.
[edit]
For what it's worh, I get this from 'dig zerohedge.com":
;; ANSWER SECTION:
zerohedge.com. 300 IN A 185.32.215.118
zerohedge.com. 300 IN A 185.32.215.119
Which resolves to a server named "ORTCLOUD" in Switzerland somewhere.
i guess you get that impression from Jerusalem name but that is a street name in Bulgaria,
contact name and address is below :
Domain name: ZEROHEDGE.COM
Administrative Contact:
Georgiev, Georgi tyler@zerohedge.com
Office 3, bl. 51, Jerusalem Str., j.k. "Mladost 1"
Sofia, Sofia 1000
BG
+359 2 9743974
That is correct. Ulitsa Jerusalem means Jerusalem Street.
"Mladost" (Mladost = "youth" or "springtime") is the name of the district or neighborhood. Mladost 1 is the destination: the first subway stop to Mladost.
They have some explainin to do.
Thank you, Ricky Ricardo.
If you guys are trying to imply that "Georgi Hristozov" is a Jew, I think you are mistaken. "Hristoz" (or Hristos or Christos) = Christ, as in Jesus Christ; Hristozov = Christoff translated in English. Other variations of the same name are Hristovski or Ristevski. Scratch that. I know you are mistaken because I have family members with that surname (Georgi is no relation).
Mr. Hristosov is most likely a Bulgarian Orthodox Christian, or at least someone who comes from that heritage.
For you conspiratorialists: Here is "Ulitsa Jerusalem" (Jerusalem Street). :) https://goo.gl/maps/4SPZgYHRnqs
If you need more confirmation, Google "Hristos Voskrese" (Christ has arisen).
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Please note that the Jerusalem Patriarchate of the Eastern/Greek Orthodox Church has custody of the most important Christian religious sites located in Jerusalem and the entire Holy Land, including the Holy Sepulchre – The All-Holy Church of the Resurrection, shared to varying degrees with the Armenians and the Roman Catholics. (Usually the Orthodox Patriarchate has the largest ownership of these sites.)
Bulgaria is predominantly an Eastern Orthodox country so it shouldn't be surprising that they have a street named after Jerusalem. I'm sure they have similar streets named in honor of Mount Athos and the Archbishopric of Ohrid as well.
http://www.jerusalem-patriarchate.info/eng
http://www.jerusalem-patriarchate.info/main/eng/page/%CF%80%CE%B1%CE%BD%...
I don't like O either, but are people pissed off cause the neo-cons can't get him to start WW3 in the Near East ? If his only motivation is not to have that hung on him, - so be it. Even a puppet can recognize complete insanity. - Or would it be better to have Mad Man McCain calling the shots on this ?
SeeBS is trying to look unbiased going into their pre-planned "save Hillary" objective. They know the Obama era is over anyway and they're throwing their
puppet under the bus now.
McCain proposed arming the Free Syrian Army ‘moderates’ with portable US surface-to-air missile systems to bring down Russian planes. In Buchanan’s view, “not only could this lead to a US-Russia clash, but US-backed Syrian rebels have a record of transferring weapons to the al-Qaeda affiliate,” the al-Nusra Front.
‘The end result of McCain’s initiative, sending Stingers to Syria, could be airliners blown out of the sky across the Middle East,’ the analyst warns.
‘When last Obama requested such authority –in 2013, when chemical weapons were used –the American people arose as one to say no to US intervention. Congress backed away without even voting.” If the US were to proceed with airstrikes against Syrian army forces, this ‘would represent an unauthorized and unconstitutional American war.’
“A curious thing happened in Georgia last year. After widespread media speculation in April 2013 that Georgia was housing a bio-weapons lab, namely the Richard G. Lugar Center for Public and Animal Health Research in Tbilisi, which the US had long denied existed, the newly recognised facility was visited by the Prime Minister of Georgia, the Georgian Health Minister and the US Ambassador.
Hours later the Georgian government formally announced the liquidation of this Center, with no reason being given. Most countries pride themselves on their levels of scientific development, and would wear a public and animal health research centre as a badge of pride, particularly one which had been established and funded by that most prestigious of allies, the US. Therefore the sudden closure of this facility of May 2013 raises many questions about what its real purpose actually was, and what negotiations took place to first bring it to Georgia and then close it.”
veterans today
McCain is a moron...has always been... Trump is completely right about McCain
i've heard a whole, whole lot about throwing people, usually, under some bus.
somehow the devils escape.
both hilary and obama deserve to paint the inner tires with their "precious bodily fluids".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1KvgtEnABY
The whole thing was scripted and rehearsed. The sheeple feel better "knowing" 60 Minutes is looking out for them.
So, when we bomb them, that's leading, but when Putin bombs, well, thats hanging one's self. Fascinating take.
FORWARD ASSAD INTO THE SOVIET!
I got a kick out of that one; Putin wasn't leading like Obama because he was "Running his economy into the ground to protect his only ally."
Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! The U.S. is running it's economy into the ground and losing thousands of soldiers lives and physically and mentally scarring thousands of others for allies that do absolutely nothing for us!
So glad to know I'm in the "land of the free, home of the brave" where the Constitution is raped and the citizenry oppressed for the sake of a rabble of sociopathic banksters and elites.
Amurika!
Exactly what I was thinking. Hypocrisy like we've come to expect...
In a way, the kenyan nigger was right.
Putin is not leading. Putin is doing damage control in syria, because assad was almost defeated by our proxy army of terrorists. That doesn't change the fact that the US is on the wrong side of morality and will lose this battle.
Also, Obama is saying sending 100s of thousands of troops back to iraq or into syria was out of the question. So for now only proxy wars are possible. At least until a more neocon friendly prez gets elected. I am grateful for that at least. The US can't be both the police force and governor -- good!
"So for now only proxy wars are possible. At least until a more neocon friendly prez gets elected."
Ummm, that would be Hillary.
Progressive assclown criminals are desperate to whitewash the leading role Hillary Clinton had in starting the Syrian civil war. Why do you think she dropped out of sight suddenly after Benghazi? Oooops, big screw up! She destroyed the sovereign nation of Libya, killing Americans as well and lying (and laughing) about it all. At the same time she set up the arms shipments from Libya to avowed enemies of the USA ---Syrian Sunni terrorists. Hundreds of thousands are dead now as a result of progressive murdering tyrants like Hillary Clinton and Barak Obirdbrain intervening illegally in other sovereign nations affairs..
This is a totally progressive owned shit show. Progressives are in charge, not stupid neocons.
Progressive propaganda is really good but don't let it fool you, progressives are not holding hands dancing around the fire singing kumbaya, progressives are the face of death for millions.
Grimaldus
neo-cons started as socialists (now hiding behind the 'progressive' label). Look up their origins. Of course, the useful idiot followers on the ground know none of this.
Do you ?
TV and Hollywood is for idiots who like propping up the Matrix like sheep. Your viewership supports their evil and lies.
Kroft and the other 60 minute "journalists" are nothing but Zionist stooges pushing for a Syrian invasion and WW3.
New angle, the Golan Heights.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/10/08/potentially-game-changing-oil-re...
yes, thank you.
Kroft and the other 60 minute "journalists" are nothing but Zionist stooges pushing for a Syrian invasion and WW3.
the premise of this interview is retarded. He doesnt criticise obama for participating in how big is your dick competitions, hes criticised because putin has a bigger dick
retarded warmongering power obsessed americans.
Fuck croft and the dick he rode in on. Obviously trying to goad zero into stupid action as dictated by their joint overlord.
Obama pretty much fucked it all up, I dont care got a new job, u people deal with his sheet I dont now have to deal any more. out of a nuke zone! latro fur awhile... peace good luck
Obama has stopped being useful, so they're throwing him under the bus. To them, his only use left is as a scapegoat they can pin the blame on.
On a side note, quote, "We've been there 13 years now close to 13 years. And it's still hard in Afghanistan."
How is guarding opium poppy fields "hard"?
@Buckaroo Banzai
"You're seven years late, you worthless bunch of Assholes" Remember "Cunts" are useful.
"But, but Steve.....global warming....YEAH, global warming"
I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... www.wallstreet34.com
I make $2k a week for 5 minutes work skull fucking your mother.
not a dime over $1K. i skull fuck her on weekends friday 8 pm to monday 5 am. and she lets me hang out for monday breakfast (i make a mean scrambled eggs with clams).
Somewhere Putin is laughing ;-)
Somewhere I am laughing back at putin... there dollar worse today then last week... check fx
If you watch TV you,re pert of the problem. Theatre for the mind controlled
"uh, err, Ahh, Steve, I intended to fail in Syria. Have you not read my book, "Dreams of my Father?" He wanted the US destroyed, and I must say I'm doing a damn good job."
"Which father, Mr Bath House? Obama Sr or Frank Marshall Davis?"
"Both."
i looked up the last name mentioned and it was real hard.
they're not monitoring us are they?
that's too invasive.
its all about passing TPP
period!!!
nothing else matter, today you win wars on the hegemony`front ie., financially?
The GO-PEE and enough evil Dems will fall all overthemselves to sell out Americans with TPP.
Yeah he is awful but what has anyone done to stand up to him? Nothing. Zero Zip.
They are All puppets and are all corrupt - blackmailed, extorted and threatened. Judges, CON-greemen/women, military, hundreds of corrupt agencies.
All owned by banksters, billionaires and mega big business plus the Black Hand Nobility..
Top to bottom USA is totally dishonest, compromised and useless. There is no honor.
they are really concerned over Toilet Paper Proliferation and it's possible failure
Somehow I'm reminded of this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yTR7V-HhjOc
Obama is only fit to suck the syphalitic pus out of his well fucked by Reggie ass.
well his man did tell putin's guy that obama would be more flexible, after barry was reelected.
King Putt.
LOL! King Putz. :-)
He was in Los Angeles on Saturday, and among the traffic advisories we got is that the only four golf courses within a ten mile radius were all put on lockdown, as well as an adjacent mountain park. All false flags, when the real golf was Sunday in San Diego. Oh, the humanity.
Y'know, Barry does have a sort of an argument, and I'm getting all ready to give him some sympathy and then he starts mouthing off about how great things are and how stupid the Republicans are to criticize him, and suddenly I don't even care anymore if he's right or wrong, he's just a jerk, and he was never really right, just had sort of a coherent - but weak, cowardly, and ultimately wrong - argument.
Put on lockdown? Or what? They'll shoot someone that tries to play 18 holes?
Fuck those .gov cowards. Obama, with his dozen men safety hit men that will take you out if you look at him the wrong way- the same ones that want to give us an executive order on gun controll.
America is like a drunkard staggering in his own vomit.
Weare ruled by hardened whorish women, and sissy effeminate men.
Fags and dykes are our leaders!
No teleprompter for the pre-approved questions? LOL.
Perhaps "Just Us" really are going to throw Obummer to the wolves.
Syria is Israhell's back yard. If your hired security force refused to patrol your back yard, what would you do? Sniper on the golf course and bring Biden to the rescue? This has Bay o' Pigs danger written all over it.
Dude, you realize that you are comparing Barry to JFK.
Stop doing that.
Obummer as a martyr, scary thought. He needs to live a very long life and continue to speak without a teleprompter.
A Bullshit artist is always a Bullshit artist. Why do you think they hired him?
The Old Man
Should have temporarily renamed the show 60 lies in 60 minutes.......
They have always been an obfuscator with red herring type investigations.
When Putin wipes out ISIS, Obama is going to have a lot to answer for with the American people and the Congress. He knows that Putin has checkmated him.
Why did Putin eliminate ISIS so quickly when Obama accomplished little-to-nothing after more than a year? Is Obama totally incompetent or is he a total fraud? Which is it? People are going to want answers.
Obama now knows this is the end game that he cannot evade no matter how much he may bluster/obfuscate/rationalize with the media.
Russia is getting good at removing our military boogiemen. I think it's the main reason they ended the Soviet Union and went back to being Russia.
The Pentagon can't be pleased...
Bernard I always said the families of those killed by ISIS all over syria and the hostages should file a class action law suit in the international court for war crimes committed by the USA and NATO. Even if they dont win in front of that puppet court just to show what a farce the western courts are anyways.
"Damn, Reggie, they're on to me now because of that damn Vlad."
"Oooh, he is so Manly, Munchkins!"
"You too? Dammit, I'm going to kill the intertubes and take all the guns!"
This generally means, "next subject, please, this one is moot".
FORWARD SOVIET LIAR!
IF Obama is the socialist that many of us think he is, how is it not legitimate that he simultaneously destroys America's credibility (as the evil capitalist devil) while enhancing the power and credibility of the world's former foremost socialist/communist country?
Obama is not a scocialist.
Not a socialist?
How about a lying, race-baiting, Marxist Muslim dictator?
A socialist you say. Americans have been conditioned to love the false demon of socialism. Obomba is as far removed from being socialist as you can get. He is a proto-fascist puppet that is looking after the interests of the uber wealthy, corporations and the military contractors. Russia and China's standing has come about as a by-product of policy decisions by Washington. Having thrown away the productive capacity of the US economy they have embarked on a series of idiotic wars, printed trillions, set up global trade agreements that will continue gut the economy, maintain tax giveaways that unbalance the budget, etc.
Just like a socialist...
Quit absolving him of any responsibility.
He's a willing puppet who gets to push his Marxist socialist agenda as long a no banker goes to jail.
Seriously bro - the entire govt top to bottom including The Pentagram and all the various intel agencies are totally compromised and corrupt including CON-Gress and everyhthing else.
Answer to CON-Grezz? They are falling all overthemslves to pass his TPP while giving endless standing ovations to Porky Poroshenko-Waltzman and Bibi. Con-Grezz asks Soros, Adelson, Zuckerberg and the rest how high they need to jump for them. "Is this high enough?" Evil clowns.
O is just another evil cog in the corrupt wheel. This destroy the ME countries started with Poppy Bush and his puppetmaster Wolfowitz. Bushes, Clinton, O are all the same people along with Soros and the zoligarchs.
No one will want answers because they are all corrupt including the GO-PEE and all of the Media and lying Dems. You live in a police state.
Ah yes, the petulant child... bristling & fuming over the slightest criticism. He's sooooo easy to trigger and play... is it any wonder that Xi/Putin/Iran have utterly abused the US for the past seven years? Our puppet president is an adolescent who still throws tantrums when interviews are served w/o pudding & cookies...
Obama managed to kill 300,000 Syrians and created 4 million Syrian refugees with the help of his creation, ISIS. Just declare victory and leave.
Well.
At least we've finally gotten past the whole "killing brown & black skinned people" thingy is the "white mans role" to play in this entire charade ;-)
He's doing it to show that, deep down, he is happy to carry out the "white man's role" too.