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'America The Herd' Is Ever At Odds With 'America The Civilization'

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Submitted by Dan Sanchez via DanSanchez.me,

“Make America Great Again” is the slogan for Donald Trump’s phenomenally popular presidential campaign.

 

With it, Trump has tapped a deep well of frustration among American conservatives about the direction of the country under President Barack Obama.

This longing for lost greatness especially concerns American foreign policy (although upon close examination Trump’s actual statements are less hawkish than those of his Republican rivals).

Conservatives are sick of America looking weak on the world stage. They sense that Obama has transmitted his own lack of virility to the nation as a whole. 

Many blame the spectacular and gruesome rise of ISIS on Obama for having pulled out of Iraq. The bad guys are on the rise, because our leader wasn’t “man enough” to stay and stand up to them. As the great George Carlin said:

“This whole country has a manhood problem. Big manhood problem in the USA. You can tell from the language we use; language always gives you away. What did we do wrong in Vietnam? We pulled out! Not a very manly thing to do is it?”

Masculine Trump promises to be different. Oh sure, he wouldn’t have invaded Iraq in the first place. But if he had inherited the occupation, he wouldn’t have pulled out until he had taken all of the country’s oil. A “real man” doesn’t leave until he gets what he wants.

And now, so this narrative goes, Obama has “yielded,” on behalf of America, to both Cuba and Iran. Trump, who presents himself as a masterful business negotiator, sneered at Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran as, “one of the weakest contracts I’ve seen of any kind.”

But perhaps most emasculating of all is Obama’s feeble showing next to the famously tough Russian president Vladimir Putin. Virile Vlad has taken Obama’s lunch money time and again.

Putin frustrated Obama’s plan to launch an air war on Syria by calling Secretary of State John Kerry’s bluff over a chemical weapons deal with the Syrian regime.

Putin countered the Washington-backed coup in Ukraine by swiftly annexing its Crimean province without firing a shot.

And now, in a blitzkrieg campaign, Putin seems to be smashing in a matter of days the ISIS menace that Obama declared war on eight months ago.

Many Americans look at Putin with a mix of fear, hate, and envy. They wish they had a leader like him, and hope Trump will fill that role. Trump himself has predicted that as president he will get along with his Russian counterpart, because Putin will respect him (perhaps as a fellow alpha male). In contrast, Trump added, Putin, “has absolutely no respect for President Obama. Zero.”

It is conceivable that Obama feels he has something to prove as a spindly former community organizer, and that is why he has been susceptible to be pressured into foreign interventions by the neocons (like Victoria Nuland of the Ukraine debacle) and liberal interventionists (like Hillary Clinton, Susan Rice, and Samantha Power of the Libya debacle) in his administration (especially the above female ones), as well as his steely-eyed generals (like Stanley McChrystal and David Petraeus of the Afghan Surge debacle).

And perhaps Obama’s non-martial inclinations have curbed his commitments to these foreign misadventures, preventing them from being quite as grandly calamitous as Bush’s, while at the same time making him look timorous and indecisive.

It may be tempting to think that Trump is comfortable enough in his own masculinity to not start fights he can’t finish, and that this is why he strays from the GOP script on Iraq, Syria, and Russia.

But ultimately it is a waste of time to pore over what candidates say on the hustings. Politicians are generally inveterate liars and manipulators whose policies in office rarely match their rhetoric, and often don’t even resemble it.

What is important is why the rhetoric is successful: why it resonates with the public and what that says about the spirit of the times, which is what actually limits or enables the rapacity of government.

What exactly are conservatives longing for when they clamor to Make America Great Again? What do they even mean by “America”?

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It could be any of three senses, each of which was expounded by the great American journalist Randolph Bourne in his 1918 essay “The State.”

They could mean America the Country. According to Bourne, when speaking of country or nation:

“We think vaguely of a loose population spreading over a certain geographical portion of the earth’s surface, speaking a common language, and living in a homogeneous civilization. Our idea of Country concerns itself with the non-political aspects of a people, its ways of living, its personal traits, its literature and art, its characteristic attitudes toward life.”

Or they could mean America the State. According to Bourne:

“The State is the country acting as a political unit, it is the group acting as a repository of force, determiner of law, arbiter of justice.”

It is important to note that Bourne’s idea of the State is distinct from his idea of government, which is:

“…the machinery by which the nation, organized as a State, carries out its State functions. Government is a framework of the administration of laws, and the carrying out of the public force. (…) That the State is a mystical conception is something that must never be forgotten. Its glamor and its significance linger behind the framework of Government and direct its activities.”

And in wartime, the State eclipses all else, as the alarmed populace amalgamates into a herd, huddling and stampeding in unison under the guiding rod of government-as-shepherd:

“Wartime brings the ideal of the State out into very clear relief, and reveals attitudes and tendencies that were hidden. (…) For war is essentially the health of the State. The ideal of the State is that within its territory its power and influence should be universal. (…) And it is precisely in war that the urgency for union seems greatest, and the necessity for universality seems most unquestioned. The State is the organization of the herd to act offensively or defensively against another herd similarly organized. The more terrifying the occasion for defense, the closer will become the organization and the more coercive the influence upon each member of the herd.”

Bourne noticed a key problem for clearly thinking about these matters:

“The patriot loses all sense of the distinction between State, nation, and government.”

As a result, these terms have become thoroughly confused.

The terms “patriotism” and “nationalism” as used by today’s arch-conservatives refer to attitudes that used to be called “jingoism.” So, what is today called “country” in the sense of “patriotism” and “nation” in the sense of “nationalism” is actually what Bourne referred to as “the State.”

What is today called “the State” Bourne instead called “government.”

And what Bourne meant by “country” and “nation” is a concept so neglected today, that it doesn’t really have its own name at all.

It will clarify things if we adopt our own set of labels for Bourne's rigorous concepts: one that doesn’t confusingly contradict current usage as Bourne’s does, but also doesn’t have the deceptive Orwellian qualities of standard modern parlance.

Our meaning should be unmistakable if we speak of America the Civilization, America the Herd, and America the Regime.

Those who display the “Make America Great Again” injunction on baseball caps and bumper stickers are specifically hoping for a particular prospective government official to fulfill it. So, they are clearly not saying “Make the American Civilization Great Again.”

Yet they are also saying far more than “Make the American Regime Great Again.” They are not merely concerned with the glory of the Federal government.

What Trump’s supporters desperately want is to Make the American Herd Great Again. And by “Great,” they mean big, imposing, mighty, and fearsome.

In a time of sparse grazing (that is, a deep economic recession), they are irrationally alarmed at perceived economic inroads being made by the Mexican and Chinese Herds.

And in a time of military and diplomatic humiliation (see above), they are irrationally terrified that the Russian, Chinese, and Muslim Herds may someday supplant or even overrun them.

They want their Herd’s military stampede to be irresistible and earthshakingly awesome again, and its huddle (immigration and trade barriers, the national security state, etc.) to be impenetrable and intimidatingly forbidding. And they are looking to Trump to restore these herd characteristics as the new strongman shepherd.

This is why Trump’s vaunted masculinity is so important. His fans want their shepherd to have a firm hand, like a stern but protecting father.

As Bourne explained:

“There is, of course, in the feeling towards the State a large element of pure filial mysticism. The sense of insecurity, the desire for protection, sends one’s desire back to the father and mother, with whom is associated the earliest feelings of protection. It is not for nothing that one’s State is still thought of as Father or Motherland, that one’s relation towards it is conceived in terms of family affection.”

And this is especially true in times of war such as ours. Bourne added that the wartime State’s…

“… chief value is the opportunity it gives for this regression to infantile attitudes. In your reaction to an imagined attack on your country or an insult to its government, you draw closer to the herd for protection, you conform in word and deed, and you act together. And you fix your adoring gaze upon the State, with a truly filial look, as upon the Father of the flock, the quasi-personal symbol of the strength of the herd, and the leader and determinant of your definite action and ideas.”

But in order for this filial piety toward the Herd to really take hold, there usually needs to be a figurehead with a face, a name, and a personality to function as a devotional focal point: a father-figure embodiment of the Herd itself. This was the function of Big Brother in George Orwell’s Nineteen Eighty-Four. And this is the function of Trump in his supporters’ dreams of an American Herd made great again.

If America’s spooked-herd mindset continues to intensify, it could even turn the populist demagogue Trump into Nationalist America’s answer to Nationalist Italy’s Benito Mussolini: our “Il Douche” to their “Il Duce.”

*****

Conservatives need to snap out of their fight-or-flight response, take a moment to step out of the fevered haze of election season, and realize that there is no need or good reason to seek provision and protection in a Herd. (Class warrior leftists are also guilty of this in their own way.)

The shepherds they bleat for don’t tend to their flocks for the sake of the protection and provision of the sheep, but for the sake of their own wool and mutton. And such regime herdsmen are the ones who set herds against each other in order to divide and rule.

And protection and provision cannot be sustainably achieved through the bestial means of swarming and stampeding over outsiders. The “biological competition” (as Ludwig von Mises called it) of tribalism and warfare (both military and economic) is a zero-sum game. And it ultimately only endangers and impoverishes all by breaking down the positive-sum division of labor (social competition and cooperation), which is the rational and characteristically human means of attaining protection and provision.

As Mises taught, civilization is based on the division of labor, which in turn depends on respect for individual property rights (including self-ownership): in a word, justice.

The more that justice reigns, the more intensified and productive will be the division of labor, and the more the populace will be civilized: i.e., economically integrated, prosperous, and peaceful.

Justice (liberty and property) is what makes a civilization great. And civilization is what makes a populace rich and safe. In short, being good is what makes a people truly great.

Being good means peaceful and voluntary exchange, both commercial and cultural, to the enrichment of all, both material and spiritual.

Being good means not making enemies throughout the world by bombing, starving, and subjugating potential fellow members of the ecumenical market society and excusing it as “foreign policy,” “global strategy,” and “collateral damage.”

Being good means not pretending to have a partial claim over every single piece of private or “public” property under your government’s illegitimate jurisdiction, such that you can exclude others from it based on them being born under a different illegitimate jurisdiction.

And as the left needs to realize, being good also means not raiding the coffers of other socio-economic “classes” simply because they have more than you, and excusing it as “addressing wealth inequality.”

In other words, being good means acting like decent human beings, and not like a ravenous, paranoid, amoral Herd.

America the Herd is ever at odds with America the Civilization. It is America the Herd that is keeping America the Civilization from feeling and being prosperous and safe. For too long, we have let our rulers ride us roughshod, using us to trample the economy and global tranquility with its economic and military interventions.

*****

Apocalyptic Islamophobes like to speak of a “Clash of Civilizations,” but that is a contradiction in terms. Civilization is a concept of natural, unforced harmony. It is Herds that clash, not Civilizations. Civilizational commonalities may determine who is considered in the fold. But it is the Herd dynamic that hurls the throngs against each other.

And such clashes damage civilization in two senses. Civilization is degraded domestically, as the heterogenous dance of individuals yields the stage to the homogenous march of the horde.

And civilization between the two peoples is shattered as well.

There are many nested levels of civilization. Within the American civilization, there are distinctive sub-civilizations. The Midwest, the Northeast, the South, etc, each have their own recognizable subcultures and trading networks, even though they are also to some extent integrated with the broader American culture and trading network.

All these civilizations are, in turn, integrated with a broader Western civilization. And Western civilization has certain cultural affinities and (especially) economic relationships with virtually all the rest of the world as well.

So, no matter how distinctive two sets of people are, military and economic warfare between them breaks the bonds of civilization that culturally and materially enrich them both.

*****

Next time someone accuses you of “hating America” for denouncing beastly policies and the tribalism that endorses and enables such savagery, tell them, “I love America the Civilization, which is why I despise America the Herd. For you, it seems to be the other way around.”

Make America good again, and the kinds of greatness actually worth having will naturally follow.

 

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Tue, 10/13/2015 - 17:53 | 6664408 junction
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What happens to herds?

They get slaughtered.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 17:57 | 6664422 Takeaction2
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Look at this dumb bitch........Watch what and how she asks Trump this question.
 http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/10/13/busted-cnn-uses-jeb-bush-...

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:00 | 6664430 TongueStun
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Trump is the real deal....The socialist Jew media (CNN) and Jeb Bush 2016 are teaming up to smear him.....

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:19 | 6664447 VinceFostersGhost
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No way in hell I'll ever vote for Jeb Bush.

 

He can stick Common Core up his ass.

 

There is no way a progressive can be a conservative. Jeb is a progressive.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:35 | 6664498 JRobby
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"Trump has tapped a deep well of frustration among American Conservatives

                                                                                         Everyone  

about the direction of the country under President Barack Obama."

                                                                          The last 6 Presidents

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:12 | 6664633 Beam Me Up Scotty
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You don't have to be a alpha male with a tiny penis to figure out that we should stop bombing wedding parties and all kinds of innocent people to install a pipeline.  Thats a sure fire way to make lots of enemies----a man who loses his wife and kids might decide he now has an axe to grind.  What ever happened to "get the job done, bring the troops home??"  Sounds like McCain was right about one thing, we will be at war for 100 years.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 22:40 | 6665486 Oh regional Indian
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Looks like America does not have an ELECTION problem.

Looks more like America has an ERECTION problem...

Erectile Dysfunction drug sales are off the Charts...

Teva (Israeli generic maker) reaches Europe...Hooray...

Now Europe has ERECTION problems...

Viagra, Cialis, LEvitor, Bob Dole...I'm Bob Dole...

I'm on the Dole...

Bob Dole...

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:54 | 6664585 Your Creator
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regressive.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:16 | 6664649 falconflight
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Add Kasick, Christie, Graham, and about 90 plus  percent of the DemPublican party.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:25 | 6664490 where_is the_nuke
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Jew media is Jew media. The way you use the world 'socialist' means you have been Jewed by the Jew media.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:38 | 6664530 Vlad the Inhaler
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Trump makes most of his money these days from licensing out his name.  That pretty much sums up his campaign right there.  

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:18 | 6664660 falconflight
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I like Trump running, but he's no more "conservative" liberty promoting than Bush.  Still, I support Trump running for the sheer joy of his fcking w/ the DemPublicans and their media molls.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:17 | 6664472 NOZZLE
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Takeaction2,     The dumb bitchez question translated: 

Title VII and the LillyShitTheBeddah Equal Pay Act already prohibit discrimination in pay for the same job,  what your falacious question is really asking and what  you are really demanding is that a librarian get pad the same as a garbage truck driver based on some arbitrary formula cooked up by some clip haired BullDyke

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:23 | 6664484 Chupacabra-322
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Remember, everything is PsyOp & Ponzi. All done by Design, all done by Agenda.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:25 | 6664702 falconflight
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Excellent reminder that the Judicary isn't the only Branch of Gov't perverting the law.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:07 | 6664448 lakecity55
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Why don't WE quit fucking around, blowing stuff up, and just try to do some reasonably honest business with everyone?

Is that so bad, huh?

Fuck the Assholes running this country (into the dirt)!

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:38 | 6664755 o r c k
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Hey, I heard that.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 21:02 | 6665122 markpower49
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Let's hope the statist, conformist, PC herd gets poverty and starvation, along with race riots lol.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 17:55 | 6664413 A Lunatic
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Moar Worser is more like it, no matter which one of these clowns gets elected......

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 17:57 | 6664424 stant
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Obama says americans that mistrust . Gov and Christians are paralyzing and keeping America from great things. Can't survive anymore of his great things

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:11 | 6664458 lakecity55
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The god of Bath House is Lucifer. So, he is being consistent.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 17:59 | 6664428 fortune114
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Thanks for your psycho-babble non-analysis, Dan Sanchez, whoever the hell you are.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:51 | 6664576 Miss Expectations
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I've got to agree...It's like he went to an entirely different movie.

 

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 21:15 | 6665178 Moustache Rides
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Agreed.  This article is ridiculous.  Framing correct decision-making in terms of "manliness"?  What are we twelve years old?  The thinking exhibited in this article is exactly why we have what we refer to today as 'Murica. 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:01 | 6664431 A Lunatic
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I see a giant fucking 3D episode of 'Nuclear Apprentice' on the horizon........

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:18 | 6664474 duo
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I want a larger image of that Putin-Obama art in the article so I can make a bumper sticker out of it.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:23 | 6664485 A Lunatic
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Why not just run them both over and create a living bumper sticker......

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:03 | 6664439 falak pema
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WHO makes America good again ??

1° THE OLIGARCHS : The "Best" (Steve Jobs/Elon Musk/BillGates) and the most powerful ?

2° The Polticians ?

3° The People? (Without the Elected REps the people are nothing)

4° The Military?

For what definition of GOOD? The Constitution? For God ?

For what System? Democracy? Republic? Dictatorship?

How do we get there ? Election ? Revolution? Military takeover?

If Putin is the model, its Oligarchy, its State and its military!

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:23 | 6664483 shovelhead
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Importing more Muslims.

That ought to do the trick.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:05 | 6664443 homebody
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Time to close the borders, start manufacturing again (even if cost to consumers go up), get the military in shape, make it clear that the country is a melting pot not a cluster of different nationalities, eliminate several government departments (IRS, EPA, Education, to name a few) honor the constitution, drop political correctness and affirmative action, ..... yes make the county great again! 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:17 | 6664463 VinceFostersGhost
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eliminate several government departments (IRS, EPA, Education, to name a few)

 

THANK YOU!!

 

Let's also start following the 10th amendment....so if a state becomes too crazy I can move to another one. Send most of the power back to the states.


Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:19 | 6664477 homebody
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Who would be left in CA?  Ooh yes there is surfer boy on food stamps.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:44 | 6664551 Glasnost
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Getting rid of most military bases in foreign lands is also a starting point.

As well as getting rid of CIA, DHS, NSA.  FBI can cover the actual semi-important things, like spying on actual enemies instead of France.  And could also stop worrying about assassinating leaders from governments that don't do exactly what the US wants.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:13 | 6664639 falconflight
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Never, ever going to happen without a "kinetic" event to send the pols and their bureacratic enforcers into alligator food processing plants. ;)

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:09 | 6664451 Consuelo
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What was that saying again about patriotism being the last refuge of a scoundrel'...?    Isn't that enough?   

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:10 | 6664457 loregnum
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Americans are for the most part too dumb to make the country good or great. It's a hopeless cause unless maybe 80% of the population is wiped out.

I also don't blame the powers that be or the leaders for this as that is just a typical excuse of this no responsibility, pass the buck society we live in. Nobody forced the sheeple to be morons and not give a shit about anything than their addiction to celebrities and social media shit.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:18 | 6664475 TheObsoleteMan
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Got to hand it to the Russian illustrator who created that picture of the sissy boi Obama sitting on Putin's lap, that about sums it up. As for Trump, well, what do you expect. The USA has seen it's best days, and I just don't see the people getting a clue or giving a shit until it is too late, and they have lost all. Enjoy the show folks. 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:19 | 6664476 KJWqonfo7
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American WOMEN are at odds with american civilization and masculinity.  White women are the voting block that brought Obama into power and re-elected him.

If you want to "blame someone" for Obama, find a white woman 21-45 and punch her in the voting booth!!!!

Trump does ZERO for white women.  They wont vote for him so he will lose in a general election.

Trump is popular because Trump has the balls to call bankers sharks on TV when sniveling TV hosts whine about business deals going bad. 

The Republican establishment lead by the nose by big money donors want him out of the race and will eventually make sure he fails.  He already told them he can't be bought.  They suspect he means it.

Never gonna be president.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:11 | 6664628 falconflight
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Actually Trump is pulling better than 50 percent of the wymen in polling.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 23:36 | 6665688 venturen
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and who isn't funded by "big money" The unions are the biggest backers of anyone...and they vote for any socialist or democrat that runs

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:21 | 6664479 Yen Cross
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 I was reading few articles about how the Bush campaign set up Trump with that "ding bat" Lauren Batchelder.

What a bunch of retarded fucking school children we have running for 'PUTUS'. Rubio and Ryan are both assclowns, and Bush is like looking at a Sesame Street character.

 I don't know what's worse... The complete pusification of this country, or the complete meltdown in it's, *caugh*caugh, elected leaders.

 I'd rather be a citizen of Moonbase #1 at this point in humanity.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:51 | 6664509 Give up. Realit...
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Though shallow in conception the article started out magnificently. The portrayal of a strong-armed Putin having his bulging bicep admired by the weakling, childlike Obama made me laugh heartily.  Where did the article let us down?  It did not take note of the ongoing Kabuki dance choreographed for its calculated effect.   A presidency is not a prize fight, where the participants duck and weave with the punches.  A president is not a leader of a herd.  A president leads an administration, which in turn leads a bureaucracy, which leads the media, which informs the citizenry and the rest of the world what sort of theater is coming next.

 

The truth behind the scenes, the actual motivations of the actors playing their part is never divulged.  Like "I'm just a patsy," Lee Harvey Oswald, everyone in this Kabuki is something of a patsy.  This world theater is not some corny Nineteen-Fifties Wolf-man film, as it is so often portrayed by the alternative media.  The plot thickens and thickens, ultimately winding the story deeper and deeper into the unfolding New American Century long ago planned to run four acts a quarter century long each...  The alliances are well hidden.  The antagonists and protagonists are all playing their parts well, because they're on the same team.  They rehearse their lines constantly.  And if you were surprised by Bobby Ewing stepping out the shower, you'd better sit down.  Why?

 

Because when you have all the money in the world, the only thing that really matters is the script.  And the script the Americans have written for the world is a good one.

 

There is no better viewing to be found anywhere on the planet.  Have the Chinese ever written a good script?

 

Don't make me laugh.  No one is lining up to view the latest Chinese film.  There is no Chinese equivalent to Jack Nicholson or Charlie Chaplin.

 

Which reminds me, if you have never seen Charlie Chaplin's "City Lights," go get it immediately.  It's by far the best film ever made.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:44 | 6664549 messystateofaffairs
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Have to send those fake semites to the country Amerika helped them steal first.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:48 | 6664565 NoWayJose
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Are the Zombie herds on the Walking Dead something to entertain us, or are they 'training videos' to teach our children how they will have to act?

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:09 | 6664625 falconflight
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We tend to think that there's a political/ideological message included @TWD.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:49 | 6664568 RaceToTheBottom
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I feel like this article was talking about the ZH website.

It has really put its finger on many of the emotions people write about here, both toward the Putin and the Donald

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:32 | 6664729 atomicwasted
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And not so ironically, most of the ZH herd won't understand, as they call others sheeple.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:53 | 6664581 Son of Captain Nemo
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If Trump were the real deal he would abandon the retro Ford Mustang "rear view mirror" and tel lthe American people like it is!

He won't, because he can't!...

Because just like the "white chimp" he's been selected from a short list and will say what your ears want to hear just like the last 9 Presidents.

I'll say it again... When Trump announces that he is signing AE911Truth's petition and is endorsing a genuine investigation of what happened 14 years ago so that it will not happen again!... I'll believe he's the real deal!!!

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:33 | 6664734 tenpanhandle
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Have fun waiting for the real deal in Hillary's america.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:11 | 6664630 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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America will never be 'great again' because America was never great to begin with. America is a lie told by media personalities & politicians vying for public office. America has always been a psychologically disturbed country that fosters sociopathic leadership to engage in all forms of psychological denial that they are somehow viewed as 'normal' by everyone else in the world. America has been mentally disturbed since the War of 1812 and onwards. Nixon was hated, Carter ate too many peanuts as a kid, Bush lied through his teeth whilst viewing the world through his CIA tinted glasses, and Clinton was too focused on his Johnson to give Glass-Steagall anything but a passing thought. Bush 'the Torturer' was a garden variety sociopath like Jim Jones who liked to force others to drink his KoolAid. O'Bummer is just a diva metrosexual that left his balls in his wife's purse in order to look cool for the vote. The Herd does not follow these flunkies anymore, BuckO. And Trump is just moar of same IMHO.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 22:47 | 6665510 Oh regional Indian
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2 much uncomfortable truth there MOU, veddy uncomfortable for most...

Due to all the warring, America is the poster child for a nation killing itself...

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 12:34 | 6667350 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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The whole point of Psychoanalysis is to replace id impulses with ego bound rationality that keeps the id impulses in-check, Oh regional Indian. You, out of everyone on Z/H can obviously see that given your recognition of things that are 'uncomfortable' in the way of 'truth'. I, for one, think you are extremely intuitive, and obviously a real intellectual when it comes to introspection. cheers, OrI

 

"Where id was ego shall be."..........Sigmund Freud

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:14 | 6664643 Miss Expectations
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This is a very interesting take on Donald Trump:

Dilbert Creator Scott Adams on Donald Trump's "Linguistic Kill Shots"

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55NxKENplG4&feature=iv&src_vid=FwWJ6rMOt...  
Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:22 | 6664683 starman
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Hail Trump!  The man got balls Obama got a vagina! 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:50 | 6664802 tenpanhandle
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Obomas got ben-wa balls.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:37 | 6664752 Ocean22
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Good article. Let's start making America good again by rewriting science. They lie about the age of the earth and origin of man. Good thing there are alternative interpreations of the data. The Bible has the truth on origins. Millions of years is delusion.

https://theyoungearth.wordpress.com/2015/10/13/t-rex-soft-tissue-found-i...

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:44 | 6664776 Goldilocks
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Fed Audit Shocker: They Come from Planet Klepto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt377DV2BKs (19:49)

SoT #62 John Titus: "Criminals Are Running The Fed"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK7nNNg3sBs (28:54)

Criminals Running THE FED Are Stealing TRILLIONS -- John Titus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK6IwqGSE5M (41:11)

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:50 | 6664803 CapnJackDaniel
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That Carlin quote is so far out of context it's in the next timezone, fucker. Add yourself to the list or just enjoy this 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ4SSvVbhLw

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:54 | 6664819 earleflorida
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yeah!

let's make a 'multi-billionaire' our next president?

he's gotta feel our pain...[?]

hey, i've got an idea? let's get a rothschild or a rockefeller as our next president... going for the grand-prize of a truly civilized world

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 20:18 | 6664925 earleflorida
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better yet let's hear trump bring up hillery's e-mails

? how the fuck can this clinton dare run for POTUS?!

they bring up as many old and tired issues as the scotus and never ever get resolved...

this country of ours is sinking fast! if bankruptcy doesn't sink us, wwiii will do the trick, esp. if and when  it finds our shore

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 20:42 | 6665016 Goldilocks
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"You may not always have a comfortable life and you will not always be able to solve all of the world's problems at once but don't ever underestimate the importance you can have because history has shown us that courage can be contagious and hope can take on a life of its own." - Michelle Obama

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 20:51 | 6665068 TeethVillage88s
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https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/654047577290223618 >BREAKING: Thousands of Iranian troops now in Syria to take part in ground offensives against

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 10:05 | 6666707 Pumpkin
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The is the very simple fact that is destroying America.  The federal government was created to function from the revenue of tariffs, not the substance of the people.

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