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The Fukushima Wasteland: "Terrifying" Drone Footage Of Japan's Abandoned Nuclear Exclusion Zone

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While the world has had decades of opportunities to observe nature slowly reclaiming the consequences of human civilization, particularly at the site of the original nuclear disaster, Chernobyl, there has been far less media coverage for obvious reasons, of that other nuclear disaster, Fukushima, where as we reported last night, one year after giving up on its "ice wall" idea Tepco has renewed the strategy of encasing the radioactive sarcophagus in an ice wall.

It was not precisely clear why this time the idea is expected to work after it was nixed last summer.

What is clear is that something has to be done, because as renewed interest in the aftermath of the results of the 2011 disaster once again builds ahead of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, the public is realizing just how vast the Japanese wasteland truly is.

And capturing just that, is this eerie drone overflight of the Fukushima graveyard shown in the clip below:

 

For those curious for more, here, courtesy of photographer Arkadiusz Podniesinski who donned protective gear to visit the "terrifying" - in his words - ghost towns of Futaba, Namie and Tomioka last month, we get an up close an personal photo essay of this generation's Chernobyl.

This is what he found: supermarket aisles strewn with packets. A school blackboard covered with notes for an unfinished lesson. Cars tangled with weeds in an unending traffic jam.

These are eerie pictures from inside the 20km exclusion zone around Fukushima nuclear plant, courtesy of Guardian.

 

The photographer, Arkadiusz Podniesinski, stands on one of the main streets of Futaba. The writing above him says: “Nuclear energy is the energy of a bright future.”

 

A street that has been taken over by nature. Four years after the catastrophe – which drove 160,000 people from their homes – much of the region is still too dangerous to enter.

 

The KFC Colonel and mannequins left standing in a supermarket.  “Here time has stood still, as if the accident happened yesterday,” says Podniesinski of the most-contaminated areas.

 

An aerial photograph of abandoned vehicles.

 

An aerial photograph of dump sites, taken by a drone. Contaminated radioactive topsoil from the fields has been bagged for removal and there have been efforts to clean deeper layers. To save space, the soil is stacked in layers.

 

A restaurant table with crockery left behind by guests. The huge task of decontaminating the area, site of the worst nuclear disaster since Chernobyl in 1986, continues. Thousands of workers move from street to street through villages, spraying and scrubbing the walls and roofs of houses.

 

Car bumpers overgrown with weeds. Some of the people Podniesinski spoke to doubt the official line that the area will be safe again in 30 years. “They are worried that the radioactive waste will be there for ever,” he says.

 

A classroom on the first floor in a school. There is still a mark below the blackboard showing the level of the tsunami wave. On the blackboard are words written by former residents, schoolchildren and workers in an attempt to keep up the morale of all of the victims, including “We can do it, Fukushima!”

 

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Tue, 10/13/2015 - 14:53 | 6663703 I woke up
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If this happened in Russia, North Korea or Iran it would be plastered all over the news as the worst disaster ever

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 14:55 | 6663716 Money Boo Boo
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years later Dr. David Suzuki a world renowned and ancestral japanese environmentalist has yet to make any mention of this disaster in any great detail since it first happened.  he's a great example of the failure of environmentalists around the world!!! 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 14:57 | 6663725 nuubee
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It's only terrifying because environmentalists shut down all nuclear power plant investment decades ago with their absurd alarmist activism. If not for them, we'd probably have much safer designs by now.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:04 | 6663753 cheech_wizard
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Not to mention nuclear fuel reprocessing...

...because it is far better to leave it in cooling pools everywhere.

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:20 | 6663815 SafelyGraze
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The blossoms have bloomed.
They are fragrant as always,
tsunami or not.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:45 | 6663884 ZerOhead
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A lucrative carreer with the Japanese Tourism Ministry awaits you if you can find something innocent and colorful that rhymes with the word "strontium".

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:58 | 6663980 ZerOhead
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Before I forget... if the Japanese want their Olympics to set the fastest speed records they should start the running events like the Marathon close to the Fukushima reactors.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:57 | 6664251 Stackers
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uhm, that video is 1.5+ years old ...........

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 17:33 | 6664361 JohnnyBriefcase
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I can't figure out what your point is.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 21:59 | 6665309 erkme73
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On Craigslist - cheap drone, like new, glows in the dark. 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 22:55 | 6665532 Oh regional Indian
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Okay my hedgie brothers and sisters few, ponder this and then question the narrative...

1) Hiroshima and Nagasake were back to being populated and thriving withing a few years (recovery from the FIREBOMBING there). Where is the million year half life nonense?

2) Chernobyl is a thriving wild life area again. No triple deaded foxes or any such mutative  non-sense.

3) Dude photographer goes to all these Fuku cities in a plastic cape and is going to be fine and dandy, no danger from the WORST nuke disaster EVER?

How come plants and animals thrive and flourish in these DEADLY zones?

WHAT my friends is the truth of all this?

Ponder it, search around and be shocked out of your respective skulls...

I'll say no more for now...

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 23:52 | 6665732 Confused
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Plastic cape? Isnt this daily dress for Chinese/Japanese in big cities? :-P 

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 01:10 | 6665910 Oh regional Indian
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Indeed confused. In Japan, THE MASK is almost de rigueur....even a whiff of a sniff and out come the masks...

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 00:22 | 6665825 Ace006
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Short life span of a fox (four legs) possibly will have it die of old age before a slow-growing tumor will kill it.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 00:47 | 6665859 Apply Force
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Oh Regional -

Yeah - the wildlife in the video here was abundant and healthy - -er, ah well, I guess there was NO wildlife to be seen in any way, shape or form.  I think the non-exclusion zone Fukushima radius kids seeing a 5000% increase ("officially") in Thyroid cancer would question your narrative.

And maybe read up a bit on Chernobyl instead of watching the docu-dramas proclaiming "thriving wildlife."  The now much lower and far less diverse wildlife population surrounding Chernobyl leads far, far shorter lives.  Bio-accumulation is a bit of an issue with animals like us apes that live longer than a fox and take a bit of time before being able to reproduce. 

Agree that if you were a plant that you could likely incorporate some radioactive material into your structure that may not cause life-threatening issues, but woe to the vertebrate's DNA that consumes said plant over time.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 01:09 | 6665904 Oh regional Indian
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Don't Apply Force, Apply logic and mindfull-ness...

re-posting the linnk below...

Open thine eyes....all the logic you state has been fed to you...by the same academic jew-mafia....

Yea there are radioactive elements, that is why they are using them on warheads (depleted, whatever that means)...bombs, nuke POWER, total bull-poop....

http://tabublog.com/revisionist-history-15-no-nuke-bombs-were-dropped-on...

 

 

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 01:34 | 6665945 Apply Force
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Galen Winsor is less than impressive, and OK by me if you say the US carpet bombed Japan and dropped no nukes - I think all bombing is bad, nukes or no nukes.

Any rebuttals as to the rest of my post??

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 01:43 | 6665955 Oh regional Indian
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The point of the link was the article, I agree, Galen W is not impressive and in fact a strange one (as in don't know how to place him in the scheme of things).

That said, no wild life in pictures because generally in Japan (I know, have worked in and visited many times)....there is hardly any wild life visible anyways. It is like the nation has been sanitized of it's wild life. Only zoos (it is a people zoo anyways). 

Also, the rest of your scientific facts are based on the original lie and all the half-truths and outright lies put upon us for the last 70 years.

Just think of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, why are they completely habitable with normal radiation levels and have been pretty much since the bombing. No abnormal cancers either.

There is no such thing as an atom bomb...it's another Zio-Jew psy-op (long running and very successful) on the world...

And note, radioactive elements exist, but that is about it :-) You'll have to dig around and see for yourself, such positions (I had it) cannot be explained or argued, because pre-convceived notions are hard to extricate.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 02:02 | 6665974 Apply Force
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I guess I'll take your word, then, that a fairly large area of Japan not inhabited for 4+ years has somehow been cleansed of birds rather than totally repopulated by birds    ....or dogs, or rats, or bugs, etc.

The difference in the amount of nuclear material in said "supposed" Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombs compared to the amount of nuclear fuel at Fukushima is a non-starter.  It's comparing a flea to the Hulk.  Exposure (external) compared to contamination (internal) and dosage all play a pretty major role in outcomes.  Just ask Marie Curie.

I'm not saying we're not constantly lied to through the usual channels of transmission, I'm saying that hairless apes are not to be trusted with systems that can cause widespread damage.  IMO nukes are not worth the risk/reward - too much tail risk.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 17:35 | 6664364 Four chan
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poor fukushima.  shame on you general electric.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 20:22 | 6664838 Vincent.Vega
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> poor fukushima.  shame on you general electric.

I wouldn't blame it on American engineers.

Magna BSP: The Israeli Connection to 3/11 Terrorism at Fukushima: https://311truth.wordpress.com/2014/01/18/magna-bsp-the-israeli-connecti...

 

PS

If you stop for a moment to think (like, really _think_, not about pussy or alcohol), you'll soon realize how phony the historical picture is most people's heads is, thanks to the great Ministry of Information.

All sheeple know is a pile of hoax- and mystification-based BS, starting from "genius" moron Einstein (project "Enstein" was created by Oppenheimers to suppress any evidence of the Luminiferous aether, super-rarefied gas, despite of results obtained by Michelson-Morley's and by others), Nukeless Hiroshima and Nagasaki carpet/fire bombing: Hiroshima and Nagasaki carpet bombing: http://tabublog.com/revisionist-history-15-no-nuke-bombs-were-dropped-on..., the Moon Hoax filmed by Stanley Kubrick after having perfected his techniques in "2001: A Space Odyssey", etc. -- even Newton's Laws only work for the first four planets since they are based on the empirical evidence collected by Tycho Brahe and his apprentice Johannes Kepler over the course of 20 years.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 23:07 | 6665570 Oh regional Indian
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BINGO vincent, and thanks for the link.

This is too much revisionism even for the hedge I think.

And yes, jewish bastard scientists (Oppenhiemer, Einstein et. al) were behind the manhatten project money heist...

I bought the lie, now I've discarded it, completely....

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:43 | 6664546 Doubleguns
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Something is not right. Pleanty of farms still being plowed and planted. Huge fields NOT over grown and I am not talking about the storage of contaminated soil fields and no debris on the roadways just seem to scream its not abandoned completely. There might be a logical explanation but I cant think of one in a nuclear contaminated zone. 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:23 | 6664689 Not Too Important
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Plenty of farms still being plowed and planted, and the food shipped around the world.

I wouldn't eat it, nor my or anyone else's children.

Poisoning the world on a massive scale. Popular in school lunches, because it's so 'cost effective'.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:22 | 6664099 EuroPox
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Forget the strontium, if they actually build that ice wall (unlikely I know but - but if), then they will trap all the ground water inside the wall and there are a couple of red-hot balls of corium just sitting there (well OK, melting through the ground) - so what happens?  It will be the world's biggest geyser!  Shooting a tower of (radioactive I know but maybe we don't mention that) water into the air every (say) 10 minutes (I don't know if it is '10' but it can be calculated quite easily).  At night it will be a light show as well.  Think of it, the biggest and best geyser in the world!

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:28 | 6664143 Handful of Dust
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So, when does this radiation hitcoat Kornifornia again?

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:58 | 6664253 giggler321
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Who else thought it was downtown Detroit?  Every wondered what a place looks like a currency collapse?

EBay Japan has some great deals right now - just make sure use a geiger counter on receipt.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 17:36 | 6664369 Four chan
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fu. detroit.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 17:13 | 6664288 armageddon addahere
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"So, when does this radiation hitcoat Kornifornia again?"

Spring 2012

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 21:48 | 6665278 Central Bankster
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Why does some of the footage look like CGI?  Did they put the video through some type of color filter?

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:24 | 6664696 Not Too Important
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One to three weeks after the explosions and counting, for a billion years or so.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:37 | 6663906 CClarity
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Those trees shouldn't be blooming in September.  Either dates are wrong or this is a mutant outcome.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:54 | 6663968 caustixoid
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Go to youtube and you'll see the drone video was taken in spring 2014.  So...news?

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:14 | 6664059 Syrin
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Still better than Detroit

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:16 | 6664076 mc225
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so, 3 years after the accident...

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:26 | 6664704 Not Too Important
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It's now almost 5 years after the accident, and childhood cancer rates are over 5,000% and growing:

UPI: ‘Skyrocketing’ cancer cases in Fukushima — AP: ‘Alarming’ cancer rates after nuclear disaster — Times: Child cancers up 5,000% — Radiation doses may be “considerably higher” than estimated — Expert: Cancer outbreak shows officials must now prepare for onset of leukemia, other diseases (VIDEO)

http://enenews.com/times-child-cancers-5000-after-fukushima-disaster

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:38 | 6663910 Uchtdorf
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Nice haiku.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:52 | 6663948 ZerOhead
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The atoms have fissioned.

They are spreading as always,

icewall or not.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:02 | 6664003 Ass Burger
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Garth, that was a haiku!

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:47 | 6664562 PartofOne
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The water wave crash,

After the hideous crime.

When will justice win?

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:16 | 6664647 ShakaZulu
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I am a man who

believes in what is real so

the earth is dying

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:07 | 6664608 Marco
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Fuel reprocessing doesn't appreciably reduce nuclear waste, it's only reprocessed once because reprocessing MOX waste is too hard and the reprocessing creates it's own waste. It's pretty much a wash, except for the billions it costs of course.

It's either a way of getting weapons grade plutonium or a boondoggle.

http://fissilematerials.org/library/rr04.pdf

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:19 | 6664666 Not Too Important
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"Not to mention nuclear fuel reprocessing...

...because it is far better to leave it in cooling pools everywhere."

Several nuclear fuel reprocessing plants have been built around the world, or as in Savannah, GA, close to completion. The problem is, none of them work safely enough to continue operation, and Savannah has been shut down before completion, because the tech doesn't work. At some point, it isn't worth the hundreds of billions of dollars to build tech that doesn't work, bribes or not.

Not to mention, older design NPP's are not designed to run reprocessed fuel, or MOX. It's like putting rocket fuel in your Chevy. Unit #3 in Fukushima was running MOX illegally, and what happened there defied all the rules of nuclear physics when it collapsed in on itself. The operator's accounts were stunning in their description of what occured.

Dry casks last about 35 years, then they and their contents need to be recasked or buried.

Fuel rods in pools will need to be cooled for a billion years.

We'll be long gone - all life on this planet - in less than 200 years thanks to the failure of nuclear power.

 

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 20:47 | 6665041 Government need...
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Sounds like they've got the cooling part worked out - courtesy of the Pacific Ocean.  Drink it in, Kalifornia!

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:08 | 6663754 Money Boo Boo
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nuclear energy is a repeat of finite carbon produced energy a.k.a it will run out because there's only a finite supply so why bother building huge global nuclear infrastructure only to have viable uranium supplies run out in a century or two???  plus waste disposal is a major drawback. Thorium sounds good but as of yet no one has bothered to really scale that idea to a global level so it's still all theory.

 

the best arguemnt i've heard about nuclear is there is not enough and never will be enough trained engineers in the world who could service and manage the amount of nuclear energy the entire world would need to replace carbon energy plus the length of time and amount of resources to even build enough plants would never be feasible_ Chris Martenson talks alot about this

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:08 | 6663775 cheech_wizard
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Please leave stupid at the door... There is a simple reason why uranium is better, yes, better than coal, gas, oil, and all the rest.

>It would take 2 million grams of oil or 3 million grams of coal to equal the power contained in 1 gram of uranium fuel. Unlike oil and coal, nuclear fuel is recyclable and, in a breeder reactor, can actually produce more fuel than is used up!

Now just shut the fuck up over a topic you know absolutely nothing about.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:14 | 6663861 samsara
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Shut the fuck up.  THere were hundreds of trained scientists and engineers in Japan, Russia(Chernobyl),  and Pennsylvania. 

Didn't help.  

3 Mile island is still a tomb,  and it was only a few hours away from being a Fukushima.  It is still sealed up,  Just like Fukushima for a thousand years.

Peddle your "if only they...' somewhere else.

They were human,  they DIDN'T.   

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:58 | 6664258 Freddie
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I support barium nuclear enema power where the elites would get highly radioactive barium and cesium 137 enemas.  A little MOX too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOX_fuel

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 17:05 | 6664274 daveO
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3 mile Island was, more than likely, sabotaged. It, and The China Syndrone(propaganda film) which was released the same month,

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078966/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident

sealed the industry's fate. Rockefeller's puppet, Carter(Navy Nuke), blocked it's growth. Speaking of the US Navy. They have the most reactors and no accidents to date. 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:29 | 6664715 Not Too Important
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Ask the crew of the Nautilus, and a few others.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 01:59 | 6665970 Iam_Silverman
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"Ask the crew of the Nautilus, and a few others."

OK, I volunteer to answer any questions.

Six years Navy nuke.  NNPS class 8104 (Orlando). Trained on the Nautilus prototype (SW-1) in Idaho.

Served on SSN-702.  Machinist Mate 1st class (MM1/SS) on EAOS in 1986.

Currently employed in same field (commercial generation).

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:26 | 6664493 cheech_wizard
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Let's check the down voter's knowledge level.

1) During TMI, what was the highest recorded reading on the core thermocouples?

2) Briefly describe the type of experiment they were doing in Chernobyl that caused it to melt down? You can use layman's terms such as heat sink and heat source.

2a) Is this the correct answer?

>What caused the accident at Chernobyl?

>On April 26, 1986, the Number Four RBMK reactor at the nuclear power plant at Chernobyl, Ukraine, went out of >control during a test at low-power, leading to an explosion and fire that demolished the reactor building and released l>arge amounts of radiation into the atmosphere.

3) Purpose of the ratchet pawl aboard a US nuclear submarine?

4) What is the last resort coolant for a nuclear reactor aboard a US nuclear submarine?

Try doing it off the top of your head, without resorting to the Internet.

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:18 | 6664664 cheech_wizard
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I answered all of these questions with references in a much later post.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 20:50 | 6665061 Government need...
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Dont give a fuck.  Nuclear power has a dubious risk/reward.  Spill a few million barrels of oil?  Trouble for a 10 mile of beach, some dead birds, a dirty beach for 50 years.  Spill corium from 1 Fuckushima reactor?  Higher cancer rates across several continents for 3+ human generations.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 05:22 | 6666090 Nostradumbass
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Hairless apes too prone to error or malfeasance to be entrusted with such an inherently deadly technology which cannot be neutralised for generations or longer.

No matter what you say about the benefits of nuclear technology, and I do sincerely wish we could be trusted to employ it, for me this is the bottom line.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 02:01 | 6665973 Iam_Silverman
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"4) What is the last resort coolant for a nuclear reactor aboard a US nuclear submarine?"

Which class of SSN/SSBN are you referring to?  The 688 class didn't have the EC heat exchangers like the 637's did.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 06:06 | 6666119 Iam_Silverman
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">What caused the accident at Chernobyl?"

I blame the engineer who thought it was a good idea to really try and find out how long that turbine could supply house loads after a trip.  What could go wrong?  It was a holiday weekend though, so let's run this undocumented (and unapproved) test then.  I'm sure the shift manager will find the value in this!  Oh crap, positive reactivity is added at the trip?  "We" forgot.

We constantly fight the "can do attitude" in our line of work.  Everyone means well, but it is always best to have someone standing outside the plan to review and approve.

 

Oh, ratchet pawl?  On the RCP's or the MG's?

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:47 | 6663947 Oracle 911
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Oh please. I'm a chemist and I REALLY know how troublesome is the nuclear fuel reprocessing. The energy for this kind of play exceed the possible gains. And few questions have to be answered:

How you want replace the oil and coal with nuclear energy?

And how you want convert them (most of the energy is used to transportation)?

And what is the effectivity of the said process?

What will you do with the toxic and/or radioactive waste like concrete, steel, water, unrecyclable fuel components etc?

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:12 | 6664046 samsara
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Oracle

What do you think of this idea for dealing with waste.

put it in containers and drop it into a suitable subduction zone?

Where two tectonic plates meet at a subduction zone, one bends and slides underneath the other, curving down into the mantle.

It's going back down into the mantle never to come up again.

http://www.teara.govt.nz/files/di-4408-enz.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/cb/Cross_section_of_mariana_trench.svg

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:09 | 6664452 bonin006
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Thanks for posting this. I looked into it a year or so ago. It looks like the obvious way to go (obvious to someone who believes in science, at least). The tectonic plates have been moving like that for billions of years. Your comment about "never to come up again" is close enough for practical purposes, but actually volcanic activity could regurgitate a tiny amount after about 100,000,000 years, which is good enough for me.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 01:56 | 6665966 Oracle 911
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Guys the subduction zones are prone to earthquakes (the most infamous is the Pacific Ring) and they are usually underwater. So please be more realistic.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:26 | 6664132 aVileRat
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Nukes are just a soft power excuse to work on military yield research either through building semi-processed piles or optimizing upgrading methods. The best non-weapon conversion designs like CANDU were never adopted globally for this very reason. Every country which has adopted soft water / graphite has admitted this silent truth, France included.

911 is also 100% correct, Nuketech loves to gloss over the inconvient truths regarding tailing ponds, radioactive decomissioning of mines/processing facilities & reactors. The whole value chain is a cesspit and unlike carbon sciences which at least understand the effects, capture and risks of the technology we still have zero clue on how to properly manage large bursts of neutron or ultra high gamma emissions. Anyone who claims otherwise is a Nuke shill.

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:29 | 6664502 cheech_wizard
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So why does France reprocess their fuel?

Here's your bonus question... What space does all the truly nasty radioactive waste in France occupy? You can give me a rough answer.

 

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:20 | 6664672 cheech_wizard
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Again, no answer but a downvote... I thought this was fight club, not "I'm a chicken shit mouse clicker that shops at Ikea..."

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 20:58 | 6665087 Government need...
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Why use those fucktarded French as an example for anything other than whine and cheese?  Your argument may be sound, but is predicated on a far more relevant question that your argument assumes the answer to.  Nuclear power presents an unfavorable risk/reward.  If it fucks up 1 time out of 1000, the consequences are sufficiently extreme (in the negative) as to make the entire proposition fucktarded given the cost effective energy substitutes available with more favorable risk/reward profiles.  Nuclear power exists only because .gov found a really cool way to use it to murder 100k+ with a single device.  The rest is a fig leaf.  The head of the Manhattan Project admitted, with guilt, that he had become the destroyer of worlds.  Hardly a ringing endorsement.  Back to France.  Those fucktards cant balance their state budget, and they dont have signfiicant coal, natty g, or oil resources.  And they LOVE big .gov over there.  So nuclear energy is a great choice for them, because it makes their .gov important to the people, who dont wish to pay for other, safer substitutes.  Like the rest of the 'gimmiedats', the French want free shit that someone else pays for.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 02:05 | 6665976 Oracle 911
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Usually to get nukes (and they don't have other sources anymore) and they are using old mines to store waste. And the ground water and tectonic movements are not your friend.

By the way the reprocessing is really expensive, wasteful, time and energy consuming process.

 

PS: I'm in Europe, so this is the reason why I'm answering this late.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:00 | 6663995 AGuy
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"There is a simple reason why uranium is better, yes, better than coal, gas, oil, and all the rest."

Not really. most of the best Uranium mines have been depleted. The best mine Ore contains about %2 Uranium, and only 0.7% is fissile U235. Not much better energy density when you include the extraction rates. Uranium mining is also dependant on Fossil fuels since there are no Nuclear powered Mining equipment, Trucks or smelting furnances. Nuclear power is depend on fossil fuels to work.

"Unlike oil and coal, nuclear fuel is recyclable and, in a breeder reactor, can actually produce more fuel than is used up!"

Breeder reactors need Uranium to cost more than a 1000 times than current Uranium prices. Breeders are as about economical is $500 bbl oil.  Most breeder reactions barely produce over unity (ie coversion of U238 to PU239)

"Now just shut the fuck up over a topic you know absolutely nothing about."

 Look in Mirror.

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:20 | 6664094 TuPhat
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A guy who only spouts the nonsense from his approved environmentaly insane sources.  You are absolutely wrong.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:40 | 6664538 cheech_wizard
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Your total number of man hours actually operating a nuclear reactor? My question is does it exceed your IQ?

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:33 | 6664731 beemasters
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His IQ couldn't possibly lower than yours.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 21:03 | 6665131 Government need...
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IQ here is irrelevant, we're not designing a liquid thorium breeder reactor.  We're evaluating risk/reward from a number of NRG options.  Judgement is needed, not IQ.  Needless to say, fucktard seems to be lacking in judgement, too.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 22:41 | 6665491 Rusty Shorts
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Leaked Video of Tricastin Explosion at Nuclear Power Station

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPmSEqbRjkM

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:09 | 6664624 Marco
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The breeders they've tried to build for the last few decades kept catching fire.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:30 | 6664719 beemasters
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Hey, you forgot the military could use depleted uranium to bring hell to humanity. Isn't that cool too?

I've got news for ye...your stupid is still at the door.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:41 | 6663916 Elliott Eldrich
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"It's only terrifying because environmentalists shut down all nuclear power plant investment decades ago with their absurd alarmist activism. If not for them, we'd probably have much safer designs by now."

Because the nuclear industry has proven to be ever so honest and forthright about every single concern raised about their shoddy designs, their inadequate safety procedures, and their utterly laughable so-called "safety backup systems" that somehow always manage to fail when most needed. I remember the utter arrogance of pro-nukers who laughed at the concerns raised by those of us who worried about things like core meltdowns and environmental contamination. "That can never happen" was the exact phrase that I was told, over and over, so riddle me this, nuubee: Where is the reactor core for Fukushima unit #2?

Blaming environmentalists for the failures of the nuclear industry is like Jack the Ripper blaming his victims because "they had it coming;" it just goes to show the utter, overwhelming detestibility of the vermin who still defend such an intensely Satanic, demonic evil. The good news is, that era is now on the wane, and thank God for that. Hopefully the detritus left over from that wretched time can be dealt with before it does much more damage to the planet.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:23 | 6664115 TuPhat
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Intensely Satanic, demonic evil seems to fit you, so wear it if you want.  Nuclear power is our best bet going forward.  The government does not want it to be safe or economic because they want the environmental votes.  If you knew what you were talking about your story would be different.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:31 | 6664161 Elliott Eldrich
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Your team has been lying through their teeth since the days of "energy too cheap to meter." 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:20 | 6664676 cheech_wizard
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When have you not been lied to?

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 21:52 | 6665292 gonetogalt
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There are several ways to go with energy, here's just one I've handy...

http://beforeitsnews.com/eu/2015/09/india-permits-free-energy-technology...

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 17:10 | 6664285 daveO
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The Rockefellers funded the US environmental movement to protect their market. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Rockefeller_Jr.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:26 | 6664131 Son of Loki
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Luckily, those TEPCO executives are all in jail along side Corzine, Mozillo, Lerner, Holder, .......

 

See, Justice is not Blind.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:47 | 6664559 Freddie
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The problem is most of the nuke stuff and designs in the USA are the biggest scumbags in the world - GE, Westinghouse, Kerr McGee and one or two others.

Karen Silkwood essentially got a nail gun treatment by Kerr mcGee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QN_NMPimsU

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:53 | 6664237 Omen IV
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so General Electric knew the design was unsafe and didnt recommend decommissioning the units - is that correct?

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:34 | 6664735 Not Too Important
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No, they built another few dozen just like them.

23+ in the US, all just about to pop. The containment construction materials are failing, and there isn't anything anyone can do about it.

Look up 'embrittlement'.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:02 | 6664434 Hugh_Jass
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Two words for safe nuclear:

 

Thorium Reactor

 

We don't have it because Westinghouse / GE lobbyists killed it in the 50s. Not enough profit in those simple reactors...or byproduct to build weaponry.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 22:54 | 6665530 Elliott Eldrich
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"Two words for safe nuclear: Thorium Reactor"

Two words for safe nuclear: Total Bullshit.

Fixed it for you.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:12 | 6664632 Not Too Important
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"It's only terrifying because environmentalists shut down all nuclear power plant investment decades ago with their absurd alarmist activism. If not for them, we'd probably have much safer designs by now."

That's not true. There have been significant design upgrades over the decades in NPP engineering. The issue is not the safety of the newer designs. The problem is maintaining engineering quality during construction and operation. The newer plants have every corner cut, to reduce costs and enrich the engineering construction firms and local players.

There are a significant number of new NPP's around the world, that cannot receive their operating licenses due to poor construction and lax safety measures. It's one thing to bribe your way to final construction. It's another to bribe your way to potentially killing off large swaths of population and reducing further NPP construction orders.

The builders don't care if they operate or not, as long as they get built. There are plenty of 'nuclear power plant' Economic Hitmen.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 17:38 | 6664375 l8apex
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Money Boo Boo, you may just be completely full of shit.

http://www.vice.com/read/these-nuclear-physicists-think-david-suzuki-is-...

 

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:02 | 6664435 Huh Reeeally
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No sh*t, I'm hoping you figured the /sarc was redundant, he's a 'Do As I Say, Not As I Do' kind of guy when it comes to just about everything, and was largely created by the national socialist Canadian CBC broadcaster which is always clamouring for more subsidies. Need I say more?

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:40 | 6664537 Tinky
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"years later Dr. David Suzuki a world renowned and ancestral japanese environmentalist has yet to make any mention of this disaster in any great detail since it first happened.  he's a great example of the failure of environmentalists around the world!!!"

 I couldn't care less that "Money Boo Boo" made a spectacularly ignorant comment, but the quality of ZH readers must have declined sharply as of this writing there are 33 up and only one down arrow!

It took me all of about 20 seconds to discover that the claim is a total crock.

Nov. 2013:

Just when many of us were already asking “WTF is going on in Fukushima?” along comes venerated Canadian scientist David Suzuki with the most ominous warning yet.

“Fukushima is the most terrifying situation I can imagine,” the environmental broadcaster told a University of Alberta audience one day before Halloween. “You have a government that is in total collusion with TEPCO, the energy company. They're lying through their teeth.”

Adding to this year's revelations of massive radioactive leaks from the melted reactors to the sea—roughly 300 tons daily—Suzuki cited Tokyo University research pegging the chance of another 7+ magnitude earthquake by 2016 at 70 percent.

“If, in fact, the fourth plant goes under an earthquake, and those rods are exposed, it's bye-bye Japan,” he prophesied, “and everybody on the west coast of North America should evacuate. Now if that isn't terrifying, I don't know what is.”

 

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:37 | 6664751 Not Too Important
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“If, in fact, the fourth plant goes under an earthquake, and those rods are exposed, it's bye-bye Japan,” he prophesied, “and everybody on the west coast of North America should evacuate. Now if that isn't terrifying, I don't know what is.”

So everything is all good with the three that went up, along with the Spent Fuel Pools, but if one more goes, it's all over.

Yeah, right. One more donut is going to make you fat...

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:18 | 6664662 Killdo
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I read about a year ago a piece that he wrote predicting lots of radiation in California 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:39 | 6664760 Not Too Important
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Spike in animal deformities on West Coast soon after Fukushima — Hundreds of baby cows with distorted legs or other malformations — Expert: “We know there’s more than that out there”… Problem may be more widespread than reported

http://enenews.com/spike-animal-deformities-west-coast-after-fukushima-h...

Time: Bizarre die-off along West Coast “an animal emergency” — Reuters: Record number of deaths declared Unusual Mortality Event by gov’t — Babies being found severely emaciated, sickened by parasites — Experts: “A big warning sign… this is just the tip of the iceberg” (VIDEO)

http://enenews.com/time-bizarre-strandings-along-west-coast-alarm-bells-...

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:37 | 6664750 lesamourai
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Suzuki is a NWO stooge.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 12:34 | 6667352 Loose Caboose
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"years later Dr. David Suzuki a world renowned and ancestral japanese environmentalist has yet to make any mention of this disaster in any great detail since it first happened.  he's a great example of the failure of environmentalists around the world!!! "

Um ...

https://www.triumf.info/wiki/pwalden/index.php/David_Suzuki's_Fukushima_Warning_Is_Dire_And_Scary

"Fukushima is the most terrifying situation I could imagine. You ask what can we do? First of all you have gotta get government that is in total collusion with TEPCO, (pause) the energy company, they're lying through their teeth. Three out of the four plants were destroyed in the earthquake and in the tsunami. The fourth one has been so badly damaged that the fear is that if there is another earthquake of a 7 or above that that building will go and then all hell will break lose. And the probability of a 7 or above earthquake in the next 3 years is over 95%. Now what they got in there is 1300 rods of spent fuel that have to be keep in water all the time, and they have no way of getting it out. And as you know they are pouring water in and that water is leaking out. And now they have got this cockamamie scheme of trying to freeze the soil so that it will form a frozen wall. They don't know what to do. And the thing we need is to get an international group of experts to go in with complete freedom to do what they suggest, and right now the Japanese government has to much pride to admit that." DS

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 12:39 | 6667368 Loose Caboose
Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:14 | 6664055 Takeaction2
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Another aspect that is truely remarkable is the Japanese people have respect unlike the "Dindo's" or the FSA.  This is a looters dream come true.  And "Those" people would be in there in a second ransacking everything if they could...Their thought process would be like "I aint seein no damn radiations".  Let's get me what I deserve...more free shit. 
.
The Japanese....there is no looting. 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:44 | 6664544 Lore
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It's a fucking idiot indeed who takes anything home from a radioactive hot zone.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:04 | 6664610 One World Mafia
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The nuke industry is too powerful so the msm won't say anything against it, but they would attack Russia's competence.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:21 | 6664678 Not Too Important
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That picture of all hundreds of thousands of bags of radioactive soil stored by the water's edge? Those have all been washed out to sea by the constant typhoons that have blown through Japan.

The rain brings the radioactivity back down from the hills and recontaminates everything. This will go on for a billion years.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 14:54 | 6663707 1stepcloser
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I bet KFC has a half life

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 14:56 | 6663718 Mark Mywords
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And those who eat there have none.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:05 | 6663761 alphamentalist
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or, more precisely, they have exactly half a life.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:07 | 6664022 Skiprrrdog
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Or less....I would not even feed my dog that crap...

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:20 | 6664674 Killdo
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dogs would get very fat and sick very fast eating that shit

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:16 | 6664072 JuliaS
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Contains 11 classified herbs and spices.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 14:55 | 6663709 Infinite QE
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I love Japan but they are doomed. No solution to this disaster. Get out while you still can.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 14:55 | 6663715 Mark Mywords
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You see kids? Teevee and movies have become reality.

Science fiction=more science, less fiction.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:05 | 6663757 cheech_wizard
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Where the fuck is Godzilla?

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:05 | 6663763 Mark Mywords
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Sleeping off one hell of a hangover.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:36 | 6663904 MadVladtheconquerer
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Godzilla is in my basement.  So be quiet or I'll let him out to

wreak havoc.  While I'm at it, I'll release Mothra too.  That'll

fix your wagon.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:02 | 6664001 Skiprrrdog
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Having a menage e twat with Hitlery and Huma...

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 11:16 | 6667012 MadVladtheconquerer
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Godzilla is the pretty one!

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 14:56 | 6663720 Infinite QE
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Maybe GE should re-locate their headquarters here. "We bring good things to life..."

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:45 | 6664556 Lore
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What is GE doing about this?  It's their fucking reactor design.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 22:56 | 6665537 Rusty Shorts
Tue, 10/13/2015 - 14:57 | 6663724 eurogold
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and every day another 400 tons of highly radioactive poison flows into the Pacific...every day....

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:23 | 6663839 Poundsand
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A down arrow?  Seriously?  It is happening... every day... every day... and that is what they will admit to.  Years after the event, they are finally admitting they had a full nuclear melt down.

Damn thing is I live on the West Coast and that crap is making it's way here as it slowly pollutes the Pacific. Who in their right mind is going to eat seafood from the Pacific soon.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:42 | 6663927 ZerOhead
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Pacific?

No sir... these here tuna came from the Atlantic.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:43 | 6663929 sleigher
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Fukushima notwithstanding, I lived on the west coast and would never eat out of the Pacific, not anything local anyways...

http://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2013/12/47800-barrels-of-radioactive-wast...

This was in the paper shortly after I moved there.  Glad to be gone.  No one could ever figure out why Marin county has to highest incidence of breast cancer.

http://www.zerobreastcancer.org/breast-cancer-in-marin

Sonoma county is right there with 'em too...

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:55 | 6663973 Bastiat
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I think they did figure that out:  particulates from the pacific nuke tests came out as precip in the Sierras, then down the rivers to and into the sediments along the north shore of the bay (Marin).   I'm talking about old, long-term data, not anything since 3/11.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:58 | 6663988 Tall Tom
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Six Months ago the owner of the Liquor Stre next door had some Tuna that one of his customers dropped off. It was freshly caught off the coast of San Diego and had been frozen..

 

I took my Geiger Counter into the store and ran it and got a background count of 20cpm.

 

The Tuna registered 125 cpm,...over FIVE TIMES that of background.

 

I am certain that it will get worse.

 

You can Downarrow thispost. I am NOT writing that it was dangerous at that level.

 

But it is EVIDENTIAL that bioaccumulation is happening.

 

So junk this post...please. It will NOT CHANGE ONE DMNED THING.

 

Remember that keeping up the front is much more important than the truth, JUNKERS.

 

In fact I want NOTHING to be done to solve the Fukushima Problem. Your children deserve Leukemia, JUNKERS.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:33 | 6664168 TuPhat
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Why do you think that you are asked if you have eaten sea food prior to getting the whole body count required to work in a nuclear power plant.  Because seafood is naturally radioactive and has been even more so since weapons testing.  Blaming it all on nuclear power is naive and stupid at best.  That radiaoactive material was probably already there way before Fukushima.  My wife went on a no sodium diet and after eating the no-salt she put in salt shakers at home for a couple of weeks I could not get out of the plant without alarming the radiation detectors.  Natural Potassium 4o in no-salt is highly radioactive.  You have to know the isotope and where it came from before a geiger counter reading is meaningful.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 17:21 | 6664314 daveO
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Good lord. I don't know how you function w/o salt. I once tried 1000mg./day. Felt like a zombie.

Is the no salt diet sponsored by the cancer (death) industry? Happy Breast Cancer Awareness month, suckas! 

http://time.com/3313332/salt-and-blood-pressure/

The real cause, most likely, an imbalance of electrolites.

http://www.webmd.com/hypertension-high-blood-pressure/news/20110711/high...

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:04 | 6664609 Lore
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I agree: the anti-salt message is misguided.  Many ailments can be alleviated by adjusting water intake and your levels of GOOD salt.

I used to have a hell of a time with "trigger points" (sore neck and back) until I started supplementing with Mg and K and GOOD salt and drinking a couple pints of clean water daily. 

Your Body's Many Cries for Water

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:28 | 6664708 Killdo
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I used to add a lot of salt to everything then once tried to see how hard it would  be to never add salt to food. After about 4 days I stopped craving it and everything I ate (without added salt) felt much saltier than the food I ate before with lots of salt. I think salt burns your taste-buds (and sugar too). So once you stop adding salt they have a chance to recover and you feel more salt as unintuitive as it sounds. I havent been adding salt ever since and everything still tastes better. The same goes for sugar

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 16:26 | 6664133 TuPhat
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Radiation is not measured in tons so he is full of crap.  I gave you both a down arrow.  Learn something before spouting off.  And try to learn the actual facts, not fear mongering garbage.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:09 | 6664444 Dr. Engali
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 He wasn't measuring the radiation. He was referring to the contaminated material that flows into the ocean as a result of the "clean up". 

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 19:49 | 6673349 Poundsand
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What a moron...  Fear mongering because we have not one but several full nuclear meltdowns?  Next to the ocean?  That is still giving off steam from water hitting it?  Yeah, that's the ticket.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:38 | 6664529 cheech_wizard
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1 nuclear reactor has most certainly done far more to release radiation than the topic of this video. (Sarcasm for the more dimwitted of the audience)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLCF7vPanrY

Standard Disclaimer: Why aren't we all dead already? Yes, but you go right head with your fear-mongering.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:45 | 6664781 Not Too Important
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"Why aren't we all dead already?"

We're getting there. It's a slow process:

AP: Catastrophic event could release radioactive fallout over major U.S. metropolitan area — Gov’t issues emergency plan as fire burns near nuclear site — Report: “World is on brink of nuclear disaster” — Senator: “What we have… could end up as Chernobyl” (VIDEO)

http://enenews.com/ap-catastrophic-event-could-release-radioactive-fallo...

 

I like this part:

"What I am concerned about are the 40,000 tons of uranium that have been spread all over the place… We’re talking about the most potent uranium in the world… We’re looking at the cancer clusters… We’re looking at the number of children who have double sets of teeth, children who have missing eyeballs, the number of children who have brain tumors."

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 14:59 | 6663734 10mm
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Seeing the table setup for eating time kills my knees just looking at it.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:02 | 6663742 Joebloinvestor
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The island is poisoned.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:46 | 6664786 Not Too Important
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This is what Kyle Bass is betting on, and so far he's right on the money.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:02 | 6663743 dontgoforit
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Sad.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:03 | 6663745 Cosmicserpent
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PROTECTIVE GEAR?!?! Is that what a gown of toilet paper is?  Finally a definition of 'too stupid to live' we can all understand.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:23 | 6663837 Arnold
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Good Beta protection

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:43 | 6664547 cheech_wizard
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Shhh, they might actually be forced out of their comfort zone and learn something...

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:03 | 6663749 Seasmoke
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The Colonel has never looked so good. What seems to be the problem ??

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 18:44 | 6664548 shovelhead
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Ok, that was funny.

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:05 | 6663758 centerline
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Nature clearly does not need mankind.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:47 | 6664789 Not Too Important
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It's taking all carbon-based life forms with it. Only some bacteria will remain in a billion years.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:13 | 6663772 yogibear
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Reminds one of Chernobyl Uninhabitable for hundreds of years.

And there building homes up against the old Rocky Flats plant in CO. Just think how messed up those people will be.

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:00 | 6664600 willwork4food
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There were a group of people that refused to leave their homes and were allowed back to Cernobyl where they lived very free and hard working lives for a long time. A film crew went back there recently and talked with them. It seems like organisms and humans can adapt to high rads. This is a fact.

There were stories of people that refused to leave the evacuated areas after the meltdown. This one older guy was worried about the animals. They would have no water, food, they would die a horrible death. He stayed and helped them. I wonder how he is doing.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 19:21 | 6664682 Marco
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The clean up crews adapted themselves into a very early grave.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 20:10 | 6664889 willwork4food
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I don't know why it happened, but it did. I just posted it. The women were still alive years after Chernobyl was evaced. Perhaps the clean up crews were exposed to higher amounts? Maybe it was because they were scared shitless, while the women that went back to THEIR HOMES rather than living in a cement highrise block in the city were not scared.

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:09 | 6663777 Gloomy Gus
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Still looks better than Detroit.

 

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:24 | 6663845 Badsamm
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And safer than Chicago

Tue, 10/13/2015 - 15:35 | 6663899 Mr. Schmilkies
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I thought it WAS Detroit.

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