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Putin Calls US, Allies "Oatmeal Heads" On Syria
To be sure, there are a lot of absurd things about what Washington has done and is currently doing in Syria.
There’s the support for Turkey’s Recep Tayyip Erdogan, for instance, who has used ISIS as an excuse to wage war on his own people. Then there are the various efforts to arm and train a hodgepodge of different anti-regime rebel groups (with more embarrassing results each and every time). And just yesterday we learned that the best idea the Pentagon can come up with now is to literally paradrop “50 tons” of ammo on pallets into the middle of the desert and hope the “right” people pick it up.
Of course when it comes to absurd outcomes in Syria, it’s difficult to top the fact that at some point - and you don’t have to go full-conspiracy theory to believe this anymore - either the West or else Qatar and Saudi Arabia provided some type of assistance to ISIS, which then proceeded to metamorphose into white basketball shoe-wearing, black flag-waving, sword-wielding desert bandits hell bent on establishing a medieval caliphate.
Having said all of that, things took an even more surreal turn late last month when, after Russia stormed in via Latakia and started bombing anti-regime targets, Washington was forced to claim that somehow, Moscow’s efforts would be detrimental to the war on terror.
To be sure, there really wasn’t much else the US could say. After all, you can’t simply come out and say “well, we need to keep ISIS around actually and we’d much rather them then Putin and Assad, so no, we’re not going to help the Russians fight terror.” The only possible spin to avoid blowing the whole charade up was to claim that somehow, The Kremlin is helping terrorists by killing them (and not in the whole 72 virgins kind of way).
Now as we’ve said before, Putin is there (along with Iran) to shore up Assad. There’s no question about that and Moscow hasn’t been shy about saying it. But at the end of the day, when you are trying to wipe out your friend’s enemies and some of those enemies are terrorists, well then, you are fighting a war on terror by default and that’s not good for terrorists by definition. By denying this, the US is effectively arguing against a tautology which is never a good idea, and we’re running out of ways to describe the ridiculousness of it.
Fortunately, Vladimir Putin is not running out of colorful descriptors.
Here’s Bloomberg with some amusing excerpts from a speech he gave at an annual conference organized by VTB Capital in Moscow on Tuesday:
Some of Russia’s international partners have “oatmeal in their heads” because they don’t understand clearly that its military campaign in Syria seeks to help the fight against terrorism, President Vladimir Putin said.
Russia notified the U.S. and the European Union in advance “out of respect” that it intended to begin airstrikes against Islamic State and other militants in Syria, Putin said at an annual conference organized by VTB Capital in Moscow on Tuesday. This showed Russia’s ready to cooperate on Syria, while nobody ever warned the authorities in Moscow about their operations, he said.
Putin’s colorful phrase, normally used to describe someone as confused, to characterize relations with the U.S. and its allies on Syria comes amid deep tensions over the Russian bombing campaign and cruise-missile strikes that began Sept. 30. The EU demanded on Monday that Russia stop targeting moderate groups opposed to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. U.S. Defense Secretary Ashton Carter warned that Russia’s actions “will have consequences” and the bombing “will only inflame” Syria’s four-year civil war.
Russia “received no answer” when it asked its international partners to provide information on terrorist targets in Syria, or to say at least where its planes shouldn’t bomb, Putin said. “It’s not a joke, I’m not making any of this up,” he said.
And while the US insists on says things like this (out just hours ago):
EARNEST: SOME RUSSIAN STRIKES IN SYRIA ARE HELPING ISLAMIC STATE
Put makes a more logical argument. Namely that when one drops 50 tons of ammo from the sky into the most dangerous place on earth, there’s absolutely no way to know for sure where it will ultimately end up:
U.S. air drops of weapons and ammunition intended for the Syrian Free Army, which is fighting Assad’s regime, could end up in the hands of Islamic State instead, Putin said.
Yes, they might “end up in the hands of Islamic State” which we’re sure wasn’t what Washington had in mind. Oh ... wait...
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Hmmm... now I respect him even more!
And I'm betting this won't be televised AT ALL! Unless it's taken totally out of context.
There isn't much in Obama's head other than a choir of little Obamas singing how great he is.
Mr Putin is too polite. The phrase "shit for brains" is what he really wanted to say.
That's not very nice!
Don't you know the Dutch just released a video showing how a BUK missle took out MH17?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGm00TdqirY
Russia and China will go Dutch when they divide up the Dutchland after the war ;-)
Russians retired those buk in 2011 only Ukrainian Military posses it.
Is that true? Any sources on that?
The EUke military did not have those types of weapons. The plane was too high for their shoulder fired missiles. So, right after the event the WUke's claimed that the EUke's had captured some of their truck based missiles and had fired them to shoot down the plane.
What is incomplete is how the plane was hit and then turned. And then was reportedly hit again. Russia released some satelite images that show a plane (WUke) firing missiles at the plane. That is what I recall. Others can clarify or show were the memory is incorrect.
This info was likely released due to concern that Russia was about to release more damning infomation. The Dutch wanted to help get ahead of the game to paint the picture.
That image later proved to be totally fake. Not only was it made in a graphics editor, it was also incorrect from physics perspective, in a sense that in order to capture such an image, a satellite flying over it would have to be about 300-600 feet above the plane, which is of course impossible, satellites do not orbit the Earth at such low altitudes. What Russian military did release was radar data. By now, judging by how slow and unprofessional the investigation was, judging by what parties were conducting it, and more importantly, what parties were excluded from the investigation, it should be clear that the incident was a either a false flag or a terrible mistake by the Ukrainian military.
The systems were not retired, it was a specific type of rocket, the 9M38, which was retired in 2011 according to Almaz-Antei, the company which designed and produced the rocket and probably the radar used in BUK missile system and which claims that specifically that type of rocket was used to down the 777. They said that the aforementioned rocket was first put into service in the Soviet Union in 1986, and that it has a shelf life of 25 years, therefore it was retired in 2011.
THe AngloZionists don't know what the Russians have on the MH17 incident other than the low level civilian radar info released publicly. Given Russia's ability to get the SU-25s etc into Syria without anyone noticing, and the Kalibr cruiose missile surprise, they must be feeling very, very nervous about Russia's capabilities. I suspect the AngloZionists are preparing to throw Ukraine under the bus to avoid being implicated themselves in the coverup.
Given that Russia isnt the one who lied to us about Saddam;s nuclear weapons, the Lusitania not carrying weapons, torpedoes in the Gulf of Tonkin, Spanish mines in Havana harbor, the JFK assassination, Israel's attack on the USS Liberty being "just an accident", banning GMO, no flouride in their water, no chemtrails, Russia gets the benefit of the doubt here. Not even going to get into 911..a bunch a cavemen did it.
Nice summary how we've been getting fucked in the ass for decades plus twice on Tuesday.
I was always wondering why my ass hurt so bad on wednesday morning.....thanks chuba :-)
I have been wondering why my ass hurts so much when I wake on wednesday morning....I thought it was the burritos and beer. :-)
Actually the German Embassy took out advertisements stating that the lusitania was carrying war matariel and was subject to attack. only one paper in Iowa or some such printed the ad.
just so you know.
sourced from Carol Quiggley's history book.
50 US papers carried that ad including some in New York, the Washington Times also printed that ad from the German embassy
Yeah, But, they had box cutters.
Putin got Russia's debt to GDP ratio down to 18%. He should be drafted into the US 2016 election.
Ha Ha Bubblegum! ( any relation to Shitgum? )...., we don't have enough Gold left for the Vlady signing Bonus.
The only Russian Obama needs to hear is paka; schastliva; dasvidaniya; dobre vecher. Asshole.
Or Putin could just sing him this Quest Pistols song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkmGo3QHPdM
See, I thought he would have called them slugheads.
https://youtu.be/mIq9jFdEfZo?t=2m50s
Washington isn't used to being challenged, especially publically. Their hubris and arrogance will only grow worse. Putin is a formidable foe. Watch Washington become even more arrogant as this goes on. We're being led by truly psychotic people.
The Putinator was being kind when he said they've got "oatmeal" (ovsyanaya kasha) in their heads.
He wanted to say what they've really got in their heads is (kal)
Pretty rough talk from a guy who has run his own country's economy into the ground.
You mean like the country that's $20T in debt?
quoting 'Bubble Gum'
Putin got Russia's debt to GDP ratio down to 18%.
Is that you Barack?
Congratulations; you have been reduced to repeating Obama's exact talking points.
Oh boy. Now he's really done it. The most powerful man in the world is not going to like this. No sir, not one bit. Thank god he didn't tweet it. Woulda been no backin' down from that.
No way that Putin called the Syrian government a "regime".
Only terrorist supporting shitheads do.
Oatmeal heads? Putin is being very kind and generous.
What a diplomat. That is not the word I would have used, but, OK, each to his own.
It's actually "You have Semen in your mouth" (no one watches Russian porn anymore).
Obama probably does have semen in his mouth, he usually does
US can only help him with Hospitals
Capitulation?
A Road to Damascus, via Moscow
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/13/opinion/a-road-to-damascus-via-moscow....
Fuck the NYTs. The article leads off blaming Russia for the mess in the Ukraine. Maybe if they get their facts straight on one lousy article I could read it, until then it's just another mouthpiece for .gov propaganda.
It's pretty telling when a propaganda mouthpiece like the Times publishes and OpEd from so-called foreign policy experts that the US should team up with Russia.
It's an admission that this administration is completely lost and doesn't know what the fuck they're doing.
Putin would be wise to say "Thanks, but no thanks".
Is that oatmeal microwaveable, or do we have to boil it....?
'Mush' not oatmeal
Porridge is correct translation.
peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold peas porridge in obama's skull nine days old.
For more than two decades the politicians and bureaucrats, holding elected and appointed offices, in Washington have uniformly despised military service and wouldn't be caught dead wearing a real uniform in the U. S. Armed Forces. [They had "better" things to do for their lives than serving in the military, to quote one former V. P.]. They uniformly lack the personal military experience, to create the necessary context needed for understanding, to judge the desirability of diplomacy where the use of military force is the last resort, not the first resort.
Don't trust bloomberg words? Use this YT video.
https://youtu.be/OWBbyZ_sjHo
Putin speech in 2011 about ASSMEEREEEKKAAAA intention. And what Russian would do.
https://youtu.be/932K6tZ5Ea4
Putin laugh when idiot german's reporter saying assmeerrreeekkaaa ABM missiles placed in EU are for intercepting Iran's missiles.
https://youtu.be/Lewkw6-d-Wc
Haha.. Hahaha.. Hahahahahahaha...
Steel-cut pinheaded groats!
What Vladimir Vladimirovich said is actually translated as "they have mush for brains".
Of course, he is right (note that the dude is seldom wrong).
"kasha" has a second meaning - a mess, a complete confusion.
The primary meaning is I think 'porridge' in English.
Actually he said 'kasha' which is even MOAR appropriate - see @BalazsPenz Twitter feed
Everything that ISIS has done outside of Syria has fell in line with the US wishlist; unity governments in Iraq and Libya (getting there), Turkey pulled into the conflict and killing Kurds while buying ISIS oil while the US gets it's huge prefabricated base, and then down to jordan to pull them into the war too with some poor pilot getting toasted ...which means the US now has syria surrounded!! To much of a coincidence? No wonder the US has called ISIS a "strategic asset".
C'mon Barry let's hear you besmirch Putin for ignoring climate change.
Obama, what a fuck up.
The correct term is "'puddin' heads".
love your avatar ! Needs a shave though
Appears a bearded bivalve...
too bad you can't sniff it over the internet !
http://asd.gsfc.nasa.gov/Stephen.Holland/sniff.html
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For those that doubt Qatari gas is not a component (if not the primary reason) for removing Assad we have this from Erdogan...
"Assad, refusing the transit of Qatari gas and becoming a potential competitor in the European market, would have to be be eliminated."
http://fortruss.blogspot.com/2015/10/erdogan-sheds-light-on-syria-blue-f...
That doesn't dismiss Isreal's goals of weakening a regional enemy and grabbing more land as a catalyst as well.
"Oatmeal in their heads", an apt description of the 'indispensable and exceptional' lunatics in the West.
Why is it that to find a clear thinking leader I have to listen to Putin?
Why is it that the West is now the axis of evil?
See, Mitt Romney was right! He teld us, didn't he?
SUPREME INSULT!!! NOTHING BEATS 'OATMEAL HEAD'!!!!
Not even "Goat Fucking Oatmeal Head"?
Maybe it's a Russian euphemism for something else that is reeeaaalllly stinky.
Translation: Mush for Brains.
Russia Debt to GDP.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/government-debt-to-gdp
Russia Debt in NUMBERS.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/external-debt
Russia FX Reserves.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/foreign-exchange-reserves
See the V-curves?? You economic guys knows what means.
Russia Current Account.
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/russia/current-account
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See why russian haters, have only rants, without substance??
That's why i rarely deals with it.
It's also shrinking at ~5% so don't be fucking silly.
SYRIA is not "over" yet.
The Russian propaganda machine is kicking into high gear. But we have not seen the response of the Sunnis (i.e. Saudis) who are probably furious. And we have not seen the response of the Israelis, who lost 'their airspace' over Syria. And we have not yet seen what Iran plans to do with ground troops.
This quagmire is only just warming up.
I don't see how anyone is going to keep Manpads out of Syria. It is going to happen.
It is over.
That is why you see the US retreating and regrouping to poke China over those man made islands and making overtures to Putin to "work together"
Isreal is stirring up trouble with Hamas over 2 stabbings in Jerusalem and have turned their attention there.
Turkey is false flagging their own people to drum up interest and is on the verge of civil war.
KSA sends the next in-line prince to Moscow to broker a deal with Russia.
This operation will be wrapped up in a matter of weeks. Those manpads are useless on that battlefield. Russia's Hinds are immune to them due to sophisticated counter measures and with the ground troops in possession of these;
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=679_1371599777
BBQ jihadis don't have a lot of job security.
Too true. ISIS twat's final selfie.
http://video.tvzvezda.ru/zvezda/ct84pfi00009lj6j7gd0dj3b000.flv
Incredible! That Mr. Putin clearly identified the sickly sweet, gluey stuffing in twisted Western allies heads without once mentioning it's color, fat content or odor. He even brought out the best in ZH comments. Not even the F bomb used so commonly by those who obviously don't respect that commodity or have oatmeal for brains themselves. Given that Mr. Putin has not lied to us on multiple serious issues, does what he says and actually looks out for his citizens I think I could love the man. Wait I do love the man!
https://theyoungearth.wordpress.com/2015/10/13/t-rex-soft-tissue-found-i...
See how you have been lied to about the age of the earth. The earth is young. All the elites of the world are hiding the truth. The Bible is correct on human origins...
Deep, deep ocean.
What's next?
"Your mom is so fat" jokes???
No. It's "Your goat is so fat" jokes.
whys everybody laughing? because you picked the ugliest goat, hahaahahhahhahahhahahhahah
They just dont want Putin to bomb those shiny toyota Hilux's they just bought in 2014...besides they are not insured for actual real bombs dropping on them.
Agent 86 Maxwell Smart...."The old 'oatmeal headed' trick in the desert, eh."
Agent 99: "Oh Max, he is referring to the President of the USA."
Chief of CONTROL: Dispatch Agent 86 to my office immediately, and inform him that he is expected in my office tomorrow morning promptly at 9:00am under the dome of silence. And inform Agent 86 that he is to bring his notes on CHAOS movements in the area.
[Play Get Smart theme tune in your head]
The Greater Syrian War is certainly not "over" ..
Working against Putin and Iran - you've got the Anglo-American alliance, the Saudis and Israel. Whatever is really going to happen, we have not seen the end of this yet.
WHAT it does mean ... is that a new flow of sophisticated weapons is going to start entering Syia. and some of these weapons will make it to ISIS, that is inevitable.
http://news.yahoo.com/rebels-us-made-missiles-turning-tide-against-regime-183722367.html
Old news... from Yahoo, no less.
Vlad's a very kind man, choosing not to use the typical American term.
About that MH-17. Here's the manufacturer version.
https://www.rt.com/news/318531-mh17-experiment-almaz-antey/
Here's the video of the experiment.
https://youtu.be/EU-weRmf29c
The MH-17 shotdown by BUK-M1. Almaz-Antey have long discountinued this model. Russian troops use BUK-M2. It is a known fact. Even in the western military site.
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/buk-m2e-air-defence-missile-system/
Russian troops use this new BUK-M2 back in 2008. You can check this if you have the DU (depleted uraniums) fragmented casing, and test them with isotopes methodes. Which for some reasons, the dutch teams refused to do.
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Again. Russian haters fails to mentioned this.
As of the questions of:
1. Why the ATC not closing the route?
2. Why divert that MH-17 to that routes, while previous planes before MH-17, directed to other southern routes?
3. Where is the traffic conversations records between the ATC and the MH17?
4. Where is the radar plot of the MH17?
5. Where is the sworn testimonies from the ATC guy in charge of taking care the MH17?
There are alot of questions unanswered. And yet the dutch investigation still release the report.
Why??
good questions. why the report? - So companies and citizens can claim financial damages. you seem to be implying that the BUK-M1 could have been sold on the black market, or provided by clandestine means. By who? To who? Those are questions that a lot of people hoped would be answered.
The Buk left some nice t-shaped holes in the test fusilage.
None of those were witnessed on MH-17 wreckage and the holes were primarily round. The missile that hit was closer than the suspended Buk they were testing and was likely an air to air weapon. You can see the burn marks on MH-17 wreckage...
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-s7tn7wre5HA/U98ltQxUWwI/AAAAAAAAN44/CQVME5C-8y...
So first with the Russian economics and now with the plane; how much you paid? Seriously, can someone put me in touch with anyone who will pay me to type this putin psyop horseshit? Fucking tragic, just like Russia.
Do you actually have something to add to the conversation or are you just angry monkey poo person ?
The news today was a joke. Ukraine ordered the plane to fly the course , altitude and speed. And yet no transcripts from the Ukraine Aviation authority ? why ?
and what happened to Carlos the air traffic controller who sent word about military interference at ATC?
http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2014/07/carlos-spanish-kiev-ai...
AU
dutch boy was banned again?
Ha ha ha .... I'm so sad. Now I'll have nobody to talk to.
I'll put this out there-- What will happen when Russia starts to lose huge numbers of planes and helicoptors to American made and supplied missiles? This is NOT the Russian invasion of Afghanistan.
Manpad systems like those used in Afghanistan against the Soviets don't have the altitude capability to seep into the fight. The on-the-ground reports from the locals state Russian aircraft flying too high to be seen. Manpads, at least the generation I'm familiar with, does not punch above 20,000 ft or so. Ruskies are probably above 36,000.
The altitude is a problem for those stingers to hit the jets which are flying above 30000 ft. But if you notice, the Russians are flying their Hinds at very low altitudes. That is because IR (heat seeking) manpads notoriously do not acquire targets quickly. By flying low, the Hinds are basically reducing the stingers to RPG's as they are too low to acquire. The Hinds also have very sophisticated jamming capabilities.
Even though the latest generation stingers have UV acquisition and line of sight, I doubt the MIC would hand these over to Al-Qaeda. But you never know.
With the ground force in close proximity, setting off a manpad immediately gives up your position for reply fire. So, really firing a manpad on that battlefield is a suicide mission.
Your assertion implies that Russians have no intelligence and surveillance capabilities. Who and how is going to supply those missiles? Russians already have eyes and ears over Syria, I don't think a needle can fall from the sky without them knowing.
Check this link https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2015/10/soviet_spying_o.html
The Soviets spied on US embassy in Moscow and US Consulate in (then) Leningrad for years. Check the NSA file documenting the story. If there was one thing that Soviet communists got right, then it was secret police and intelligence, and Russia inherited all that, Putin himself was a KGB operative, and I believe he only strengthened Russia's spying and intelligence gathering capabilities.
That article is getting totally five star votes. Indeed, Zero Hedge has a great literary style when communicating ways "things took an even more surreal turn!"
The problem for Obama is that Putin actually makes sense when he speaks.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3270355/Doomed-flight-MH17-shot-...
https://soundcloud.com/radiosputnik/mh17-only-one-direction-joost-niemol...
Yep, total Rus queers.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterhimler/2014/05/06/russias-media-trolls/
"Yep, total Rus queers."
So says 'kitten up a tree'.
If you think US manpads can wreack havoc?
You really don't know Russian marvel.
Take a look at this photo.
http://www.deagel.com/library/Four-Russian-Air-Force-Su-34-medium-bomber...
That wing pod? Is this.
http://www.deagel.com/Aircraft-Protection-Systems/Khibiny_a002981001.aspx
Here, what pentagon had to say.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/04/pentagon-worries-that-r...
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By hating something? You closed your brains from learning more.
I usually don't response, cause i don't want to be the one unstucking your head from the sands.
If you want to be blind? Then, be my guest..
You don't deserve a penny of the money you are paid, you are as subtle as a kick in the teeth.
This might be a good time to remember that American stealth technology is based on the pioneering work of Russian mathematician Petr Ufimtsev, who laid out the theory of the scattering and diffraction of electromagnetic waves. He published this in the early 1960s.
I don't see much in the Pantygon's solution - crudely overwhelming - to the Russian jamming technology.
If they try to overwhelm the jamming technology, Russia can simply ratchet up its capacity and performance.
People who understand what's coming should be digging John Connor bunkers but we're not.
Everyone in the Pentagon laid end-to-end wouldn't qualify as an oatmeal head.
Except the Hospital Bombing Division. They seem to know what the hell they're doing.
Some of Russia’s international partners have “oatmeal in their heads”
Nonsense! Delusions, peace prizes (for doing nothing), speech making, indecision, abandoning traditional allies, sucking up to traditional foes yes, but "oatmeal", outrageous!
This is what you get when a powerful nation like America, is ruled by cowards who are scared of Zionists. Now don't get me wrong, if anyone in the establishment speaks up against Israel or its Zionists supporters, they will be destroyed, both politically and professionally. Our leaders know what they should do, but they know if they speak up, they will be removed, so they look inept.
Sounds about right.
I'm not sure the country can withstand Washington, as it is, for another year...
I am sure we are suffering the worst leadership we've ever had.
To the extent it's possible to choose better next November, ALL that we are putting up with should form the criteria for what we DEFINITELY don't ever want again.
And "None of the Above" looks like the right choice so far...
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"I am sure we are suffering the worst leadership we've ever had.".
From the outside , and a long long way away, it just looks like a long decline.
Hard to say when it started , but the trend continues. Can it get worse? Probably.
When you have SHIT for brains as does the US, oatmeal in your head is quite a compliment.....
@NafeesaSyeed @lrozen @LemonSlayerUS @business our Moscow crew says it was kasha indeed @tonyhalpin @torreyhclark @rprose
Oatmeal in their heads? That's a pretty piss-poor insult if you ask me...or maybe it loses something in the translation.
I would have gone with something like, "Their mothers should have eaten them while their heads were still soft", said in a clipped tone while glaring into the camera...That's pretty much going to sound the same in any language, and the meaning and symbolism clear. While some may not even know what oatmeal IS and thus miss the 'sludgy-brain' metaphor, people all over the globe are familiar with small mammal mothers who eat their own young shortly after birth, usually because there's something wrong with them. Metaphors only work when everyone is familiar with them, so one MUST use them with care so they aren't incomprehensible, or worse.
Well, if Mr. Putin ever needs a speech writer, I just want to let him know I am available. I can DEFINITELY put something together that will retain its venomous tone no matter WHAT language you translate it into, a useful skill in a global society.
And my fees are very reasonable. And I'm bored. Obviously.
Down Under we just say "shit for brains".
It is not oat meal in head but very smart and intentional. The amo drop is for all those who will fight Assad's army including ISIS.
And who actually got the ammo(note the spelling)?
Do tell.
Like Al-Qaeda? Yeah, let's try that one again... This time with Nobel peace prize winner.
I'm not the biggest fan of Russia, which is why this whole debacle breaks my heart.
But over time, when all the pieces fall together about how and whom was involved in the incorporation of "ISIS/ISIL" it is be necessary to conclude that that operation was in fact a complete pys-op directed against the American People.
This is no different than these various "Color Revolutions" that creep across the battle-space - Rose, Orange, Tulip, Maidan, Cedar, Yellow - and now add the "Black Flag" psy-op against Joe and Jane Six-pack in Anytown USA.
I know there's a hodgepodge of alphabet soup agencies that troll ZH.
Get up from your desk.
March into the restroom.
Look in the mirror and ask yourself why EXACTLY are you and this country creating all these wars and wide spread human suffering.
Is Assad and Syria on our Christmas List? Nope.
Do we need to lie to the American people (again) to contrive another war? Nope.
Who benefits from this entire exercise?
When Obama takes to the podium to give us all another lecture about American/his exceptionalism on foreign policy or domestic gun grabbing consider the Hope and Change that has rained down from drones killing countless Sandy Hooks of non-combatants across entire continents and then look at this fiasco.
What are you doing to stop the shrill shrieking hypocrisy?
For what reasons are you not a fan of russia exactly?
Who benefits from this entire exercise?
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/Media/Slideshow/2014/10/16/9-ISIS-Weapons-...
It is embarrassing to provide them with just the empty desert locations as a target list that US had for more than a year ...
Oatmeal Head must be Russian for Dick Head.
And spot on in describing the punks runniing ZIO-Caliphate USSA.
Amazing how much these guys think they can get away with. There never was a civil war in Syria. Likewise in the Ukraine. Both of these instigated by the Bush-CIA/DoD. Anb Bush/Scherf is only 3rd Tier. He has 2nd Tier masters to report to. And the 2nd Tier has 1st Tier masters to report to. The 1st Tier reporting to ....................... well, there is that phrase ................................. where do all roads lead to?
Couldn't have said it better myself!
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The USSA (with help from "partners" in NATO and EU) are the worst terrorsts on the planet. Plus, they are also the biggest, baddest supplier of aid and weapons to other terrorists.
That's about all that needs to be said... except to repeatedly mention they are all predators.
Almost all modern humans let words (propaganda) speak louder than actions, which is a very serious and fundamental form of insanity. Which is why...
Humans are finished.
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PS: Putin is much, much too kind in his characterizations. However, this approach is often wise in early stages of [possible] paradigm shifts.
Few would disagree with your analysis , but your conclusion is over the top.
Humans are not finished: they will continue to evolve.
Perhaps. Perhaps not.
The future depends on what WE do today.
Sorry, completely off-topic but many folks interested in MH-370.....
MH-370 wreckage found on remote island?
"Plane wreckage containing 'many skeletons' and painted with the Malaysian flag has reportedly been found in the Philippines, prompting speculation it could be missing Flight MH370."
Christ ! 70in.x35in. ! Imagine if she had not taken an imperial tape measure with her.
We would never have known the truth.
Nope. It was found to be totally false and made up.
Are you serious?? No, really.
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Yea he's serious. It was bullshit. But that won't keep you from posting it here as it were real would it now...
Dear Troll HQ,
You seem to have a reading and comprehension problem dear fellow.
Did you miss that I asked the previous poster if he was serious about the story being false, because when I posted my link I genuinely thought it was true.
dailyfail.con
"Oatmeal heads" - I'm shocked at such language! Filty commie.
Not hard to figure out: ISIS is CIA created and controlled and the U.S doesn't like the idea of another country bombing their boogeymen since the U.S propaganda machine hasn't got enough out of them (surely because they haven't set up a new bullshit terrorist group to play the heel to their face persona) so they won't help someone else bomb them.
Well, I've got some even more colorful language to describe our Western "leaders":
"their heads are full of shit and when they open their mouths, it all pours out"
Putin is the one who warned the FBI twice about the Chechens in Boston before the marathon bombing was he not? Kind of hard to get a hate going for the guy.
Nothing about release of Dutch MH17 report from ZH today?
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Why would you expext there to be?
I love this guy.....i truly do.
Go fck yourself US / Nato and house of saud and shithole Turkey......and that goes for every banker within a cock-sucking distance from the Fed (which is probably most of them)....oh, how coukd I forget the Zionists, the chosenth.....f k you
Long Russia.
Long Gold.
Long world power shifting East
Long a 2nd US revolution.
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You do realize that you strike out at three right?
Lol...
Dude, check out Kim's ass.
Kill'em all Puty, kill every last muther fucker!!!
I am a Canadian. I would have no trouble telling my government to get the fuck out of the ME and leave NATO. One day a false flag or real terrorist operation will hit our soil for kow towing to the USA's idiotic and aggressive foreign policies and our false idolatry of Israel.
We weren't the ones hit on 911. Many countries paid for that act which has many unanswered questions including who really did it. We are paying for that day as well and we shouldn't be. George W treated us like enemies when we refused to go into Iraq and rightly so.
Agree. Except if we did try to leave NATO it would guarantee a big kaboom on Canadian soil.
either the West or else Qatar and Saudi Arabia provided some type of assistance to ISIS
ISIS is a curious bunch. Do you remember how they stormed upon the scene from total non-existence? From a rag tag bunch of hangers on to the growing radical elements coming to Syria to fight Jihad against a secular government, they somehow morphed into a large, 30K plus force fully equipped with vechicles, TOW anti tank missiles, Humvees, Western Uniform Kit, all sorts of mortars, heavy Machine Guns, 23 MM anti aircraft guns, then tanks and IFV's.
How we wonder does a magical event like ISIS appearing from nowhere happen. USA says they never armed them, and are blood enemies to them. Al-Qaeda and Al-Nusra were Jihadist Slackers compared to ISIS. Suddenly the most radical Islamists on earth are everywhere in Iraq and Syria. Turkey claims ignorance. The Gulf States don't know them! So then, what to fuck is going on?
Washington has gone to war with ISIS, claiming to run round the clock bombing raids for well over 1 year, yet ISIS not only held all it's postions, but gained land and more arms, expanded to 40-50K fighters. Recruited well over 5 thousands of Jihadist from Eruope. Nations like the UK contributed several thousand. Meanwhile the Cameron government couldn't or worldn't stem the flow of Britains to ISIS in Turkey.
I maintain I can point to where this magical army came from. I suggest one investigate the secret black projects of the CIA. I bet you will find ISIS right there, inside an American CIA black ops program that spends billions of dollars off the books. ISIS was armed, funded, trained, transported and protected diplomatically and legally by someone!
Here is mu short list of ISIS creators.
Mossad
CIA
MI6
Saudi Intelligence.
Now we have the event of the USA, UK, Saudi and Turkey demanding that Russia cease air strikes on ISIS and other Islamic Jihadists in Syria. Those who defend ISIS now, are most likely those who created them in the first place. That is basic logic!
Please ...
ISIS is Putins little bitch!
Don't beleive that? Then WHY are ISIS suddenly kicking ass and taking names!
We were told Russians airccraft hit EVERYTHING they aimed at. Bur ISIS is waltzing around like a dandy so apparently the Russian jets are still hitting 100% of what they aim for.
BTW
Iran loses TWO more top generals in Syria!
BEIRUT – The former head of an elite unit in the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) as well as another top general have been killed in Syria, days after one of the country’s leading officers was killed in the war-torn country.
“General Farshad Hasounizad, defender of the Sayyeda Zeinab Shrine and former commander of the Saberin Brigade, was killed in Syria,” a reporter in the state-controlled Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB) wrote
Hassan Shemshadi also posted that Hamid Mokhtarband had been killed in Syria, explaining that the officer was the former chief-of-staff of the 1st Brigade in Ahvaz, in reference to the 1st Brigade of Iran’s crack 92nd Armored Division, which is considered the country’s top armored unit.
Don't bust a nut over it now, Lefkowitz. At least the Iranians are fighting these shit bags, not putting them up in their hospitals like you guys.