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'Socialist' Sanders Vs 'Crony' Clinton: First Democratic Debate Begins - Live Feed
Admittedly it's not Mayweather-Pacquiao, but Las Vegas is buzzing ahead of tonight's rumble-in-the-jungle between Bernie and The Battle-axe. While Joe Biden remains the most notable absentee (or will he?) there are three other 'debaters' to carry water and towels for Hillary and Bernie as they drag one another left-er and left-er and more populist-er. In the pre-fight Sanders has lobbed some awkward Iraq War questions at 'hawkish' Hillary but as Clinton's 2008 campaign manager notes, "she's rolled out Latinos for Hillary, Women for Hillary, and met the leadership of Black Lives Matter; she has checked a lot of boxes walking into this debate."
It's not different this time..

And it's getting worse...
Search interest shows them neck and neck...
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This seemed to sum up the pre-show rather well...
"@StreckerJosh: The Hillary love fest on CNN is ridiculous. I feel bad for the other candidates...especially the non-criminal ones."
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 14, 2015
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Live Feed (via CNN)... (click image below for link - if embed unavailable)
USA Today offers six things to watch for during the debate...

Hillary Clinton speaks in Council Bluffs, Iowa, on Oct. 7, 2015. (Nati Harnik, AP)
1. Steam from the Hillary grilling
If the CNN debate moderators treat this as their chance to grill Clinton on live TV instead of carrying out an actual debate where other candidates are allotted plenty of time to make their case, “Democrats will likely be frustrated,” said Pat Rynard, a former Democratic campaign staffer from Iowa.

Vice President Biden in the Oval Office on Oct. 7, 2015. (Mark Wilson, Getty Images)
2. The Biden shadow
Even if he’s not on the stage, “Joe is a real part of the debate,” said Democrat Patty Judge, a former Iowa lieutenant governor.
“Sadly,” added Rynard, “in terms of the media narrative, nothing in the debate may matter if Biden announces his intentions the next day and wipes out all the coverage. Hopefully that doesn’t happen, but it’s near when Biden has to make a decision for ballot purposes.”

Sen. Bernie Sanders speaks during a campaign event on Oct. 9, 2015, in Tucson, Ariz.
(Rick Scuteri, AP)
3. Sanders’ fidelity to fixed talking points
The liberal messenger could miss an opportunity if he expounds only a dry, policy-heavy message, Democrats said.
“He really refuses to deviate much from his economic inequality shtick on the campaign trail — which, to be fair, is a very powerful message that has gotten him far,” said Rynard, who writes about presidential politics on the website Iowa Starting Line. “(But) debates tend to favor interaction and candidates quick on their toes who can give punchy responses.”

Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. (AP)
4. Two debates in one
One debate will likely be a policy contest between Clinton and Sanders, both of whom have declined to stray into personal attacks, observers said.
“She will continue to move herself to the left in order to appeal to undecideds and to those who are leaning to Sanders but not firmly in his camp,” Judge said of Clinton. “She will also try to continue to distance herself from the Obama administration to give herself room to take on Biden if he gets into the race.”
The second debate could feature hard swings from the low-polling contenders, especially O’Malley, who has gotten increasingly personal in drawing contrasts with Clinton.
Watch for gun control, trade, banks and foreign policy to take center stage, said Michael Cheney, a professor of communication and economics at the University of Illinois at Springfield.

Martin O’Malley talks on stage during the New Hampshire Democratic Party State Convention on Sept. 19, 2015 in Manchester. (Scott Eisen, Getty Images)
5. O’Malley’s moment?
Many Democrats worry that Sanders’ “socialist” label and Clinton’s struggles with her email controversy would badly hinder them in the general election, Rynard said.
O’Malley has run a serious campaign and impressed Democrats who go see him. But he barely attracts national media coverage, and many voters haven’t noticed him yet.
Cutter said: “This is the last best chance for Martin O’Malley.”
O’Malley needs to pull votes from Sanders, she said. “If he doesn’t distinguish himself as the person more likely to achieve results for a progressive agenda, rather than just a protest,” Cutter said, “then he’s out.”

Democratic presidential candidates Jim Webb and Lincoln Chafee. (Getty Images)
6. The invisible Democrats
It’s now or never for Webb and Chafee, neither of whom do any real campaigning, Rynard said.
“At this point, they’re just taking up space,” he said.
Democrats said they’re hesitant to take either candidate seriously when even low-polling GOP candidates such as Rick Santorum, Bobby Jindal and Lindsey Graham throw energy into reaching out to early state voters.
But debates are fertile ground for earning a bump in the polls, strategists noted.
“The best debaters,” Sefl said, “are those who don’t look like they rehearsed their one-liners thousands of times, and who know how to demonstrate command of the issues without being the annoying kid from class who always raised their hand to every question.”
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We suspect this debate will be a little "drier" than The Trump Show, so here is a Drinking Game to make it a little more enjoyable...
And for the kids and non-drinkers...
Of course - as we noted earlier - the biggest 'donkey' in the room is...
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Hillary's handlers are probably shitting a brick right about now. They're terrified she's going to get defensive and start yelling in that screechy woman voice that's like nails on a chalkboard. Think: 'Mars Attacks'. Ack ack ack ack. Ack ACK!
Gun Control .. Global Warming .. Americas Most Pressing Issues: NOT
Funny how Unlimited Immigration isn't part of the discussion ....
That's the problem for them- gun control and global warming tank near the bottow with most people, as much as left tries to talk about them. People care about the economy, debt, and jobs, and it's tough for them to say they will do better than Obama when all they have to offer is the same shit that hasn't worked, just phrased a little differently.
global warming, or is it climate change now, ranked dead last out of 20 topics in what americans give a shit about.
"Suffragette" was advertised right before the start of the debates. CNN at its worst.
Tried to watch but didn't get past the introductions. Sickening.
Get use to "King Obama" and expect a push for 3rd terms; the puppet-masters prefer the current "Puppet in Chaff". Unless they can get Jeb in there. No choices here; go Ben Carson!
I would worry about a 3rd Obama term except for one thing. He's lazy as cat shit. He doesn't want a third term and wouldn't have the energy necessary to again twist the Constitution in to pretzels to force one. He just wants to build his library, set up his "charitable crime organization" (a la the Clintons) and rake in massive donor bucks while he sucks Reggie's cock and reassures himself he was the greatest president in the history of the country. No matter what anybody says to the contrary.
I don't think we'll be worried about terms during nuclear winter.
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Oh no, it's true (breaks down like Crusty the Clown)!!! We're in Vegas and we bet the ranch on Bernie the Flaccid Hammer Sanders. Please tell us no #blacklivesmatter agitatrixes have rushed the stage! (sobs uncontrollably)
That Democratic Drinking Game will soon be a whole lot more expensive if the drink is beer. While Hillary lies and Bernie Sanders mumbles catatonically about something useless, Carlos Brito in Brazil is about to get a stranglehold on the worldwide beer industry. Obama, the NWO President, will make sure that no federal agency blocks the ABInBev merger with SABMiller. Just like that, in less than 10 years, Brito will have taken over about half of the world's beer brewing capacity. What is happening in the beer industry has happened in healthcare, in the entertainment industry and soon, with the TPP in world government. A few NWO controlled people are taking over control of all the world's resources and governments. With near total silence from Western governments or the paid off press. Meanwhile, "Mumbles" Sanders tells everyone his solutions to problems no one cares about. And no one asks how Debbie Wasserman Shultz is still the head of the DNC after leading the Democrats to total disaster in the 2014 election. The same Wasserman Shultz whose politician parents went to jail for political corruption and tax evasion.
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"A $104.2 billion combination of the world’s two biggest brewers, Anheuser-Busch InBev NV and SABMiller PLC, would redraw the map of the global beer industry and is likely to trigger higher beer prices for consumers around the world."
So 4 trillion worth of new programs....AND ITS ALL FREEEEEE!
FUCK THIS SHIT SHOW OF ASSHOLES
Not watching , just here for the comments, now talk about some bitter clingers that's what these clowns are
Guy spelled "cunty" wrong
I'll do 5 shots of Jack if Bernie rightly calls Hitlery a cunt
It's hilarious that democrats are hoping the Court Jester enters the race in order to better their chances.
It's just so EXCITING waiting to see if Uncle Joe will honor is son's dying request (as reported by Joe himself). I think they need to marinade Hillary in the email scandal for a little longer before she's tenderized enough for Joe to walk in the kitchen and stick a fork in her.
If they were going to slap her with charges it would have happened already. This email scandal was meant to wound and weaken, not prosecute for conviction.
It'll be hysterical when Hillary publishes her next book (which, again, nobody will read) and she has to claim her second presidential bid was sunk by a vast LEFT wing conspiracy.
Just wait until Carlos Danger publishes the pics of her and Huma in coitus flagrante (pretend the last three words are italicized).
Hey. Hey! I'm trying to drink vodka here. You mind? I just threw up in the back of my mouth a little.
Vodka! Are you leaning towards Colonel Sanders or waiting for Chokin' Joe, comrade?
I'm damned sorry that I'm out of the hard stuff after that nasty image of Hillary & Humaweiner scorched my frontal lobe.
Dude, if you don't have an emergency case of Jameson in the bunker, we have to seriously question your prepping plan to date.
you too 'eh? I mean I have other bottles as well, as well as a still, but yeah, a nice stash of Jameson for personal use.
really now....a smoothie of prunes and bicardi 151 is the only drink suitable for this debate.....
+1 for Humaweiner.
<golf clap>
The very thought of that, has killed many manly erections.
That is why the narrative was focused on "emails" as opposed to Benghazi, ineptitude, or treason. Americans just think "what's the big deal about emails". As God said, since we refuse to acknowledge Him He has gave U.S. over to reprobate minds. No one can disagree except for the ones with the reprobate mind. We are under divine wrath and we have yet to experience what that is going to look like and for most they will cry out for death.
I was sorta hoping for a walls of Jericho moment myself, but that will do just fine, too.
Escape from Alcatraz 2015. No Thanks.
This is your chance Bernie, go for the throat. Don't worry, the MSM won't call you a big fat meanie pants male chauvinist pig or anything.
Go for it ;-)
The throat? Bernie was sucking her cock. What a pathetic display from a senile old fuckan socialist hack.
Presidential freak show; this is what happens when "emails" and "servers" are used as the narrative as opposed to "Treason" and "lying" and "can't be trusted". God please have mercy on us.
It's fucking Misandry on parade.
This should be called "Guillotine lineup 2015" I hope to have a chance to pull the lever
Thanks for the link ZH, I'm not paying cable for that crap.
Installed my HD Antenna 8 months ago and never looked back.
So nice to get T.V. for free, and what I can't see I don't watch, unless it's here!
Trump/Sanders 2016!
Hey eb, I put up one of those old 1957 di-pole antennas you see on the roofs of the old Honeymooners episodes. It pulls in over 60 crystal clear channels, never an adjustment necessary. Even the noobs from the cable company that come out to try to sell me can't seem to absorb it. Funny.
Uh, maybe I'm mistaken, but today, at least in Merika, one needs a antenna designed for digital signals. Maybe it looks like a circa 1950's antenna, but it ain't. It wouldn't work for us. Probably not a single station due to the mountains.
If they weren't so damn expensive, those old aluminum "Airstream Trailers" are great TV antenas. ;-)
My house came equipped with a 60's antenna. Guess what? It picks up all channels in HD that can be received.
It's not the antenna, it's the tuner in the television. There are two types: analog and digital. The analog tuners needed coverter boxes (everyone remember those?) but the newer TV sets can pick it up with any antenna.
I get CBS in HD, PBS in HD and one other channel out here in the boonies. But the truth is that on-air TV is the most propaganda laden of all media. I find the commercials are every bit if not more egregious than the programming itself. 4 minutes of commercials for every 10 minutes of programming?
FUCK.
THAT.
SHIT.
Trump /Sanders.
chuckles, ;-) never lose the snark Ebbie.
boring....Hitlery looks like the blue blob, omalley talks like he's on valium..yaaaawn..
Go Trump!
Ghouls for Hill!
Holy Fuck. Kill me. These people are fucking crazy!!!
Be patient my friend, they will.
LMAO
Welcome to tonight's debate starring Cain & Abel.
Co-Starring The Three Stooges.
Who to choose, who to choose, the cadaver or the vampire.......
hitlery in bobble head mode....ohhh my eyes..and that voice...
Fuck...I just watched a few minutes of that shit on tv. Jesus. All of these fucktards should be burned at the stake. Man I gotta take a shit now.
What is just as scary is the disrespect you have for Jesus; you will spend eternity with those people you just spoke of unless you repent and believe the Gospel according to Jesus. Think about eternity with Hitlery.
Hillary is such a cunt, and that is an insult to cunts.
What a fucking monster! Jesus H. Christ, if she is elected I'm going to Russia.
run...faster!
Clinton sounds like a parent, a petulent parent, some smug, know it all, absent parent,... a parent that sucks at being around, teaching, understanding, listening, relating, humanizing, whatever.
WTF?
Do we want someone sounding like they are parenting us, or a patriarch to hand down values & rules to us?
Fuck no.
These guys are Bozos.
Screw the Republicans, Screw the Democrats.
Time for Reform, Revolution, third parties, populist movements, community involvement, and to question authority.
Question these Bozos, then question them all over again.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/13/politics/democratic-debate-2015-live-updat...
Ah, so, Hitlery CAN recall what she has said and done it the past....just not when it comes to Benghazi, her Email server, or The Clinton Foundation.
Of course, it may just be old age senility, grey moments or as my girls tell me, selective memory.
...Vince Foster, Ron Brown, and Chelsea's Daddy Webb Hubbell.
She could scream at the end "I have a fagina!" and she could still win.
That is how fucked up this country is; crossed the Rubicon! Run for the hills!
I don't care what anyone says. Webb Hubbell is Chelsea's biological father.
Gawd, it's so obvious that Hillary cheated on Bill, and he scorned Monica Lewinsky in the oval office to get even.
Hopefully she'll stoke out like Mr. Yellin did.
The intros said it all, three nothings, one wack job, and one rabid beast.
The wack job occassionally says something good, but five seconds later he's at the other extreme.
The beast has no idea what the words mean that are coming out of her own mouth.
The three nothings seem to have wandered in here after being ejected from the tryouts of American Idol for having no discernible talent at all.
Naturally, the two demonrats who wouldn't utterly destroy the country, Chafee and Webb, have zero chance.
Whenever Clinton opens her mouth I hear Dick Cheney's voice.
You need to be gun controlled, NOW!!! See, I saw her standing to take a piss...
Ah Bernie Sanders sounds like he is too slow. It is a rythem problem, a tempo problems, a time limit problem, he doesn't have enough time to pause for dramatic effect.
- There are smart pills available
- Bernie should think about trying smart pills
- Bernie's policies problems could be over-come by some networking, some learning, and some mentoring
- But now Bernie looks like a loser at 21:38 minutes
- 21:40 minutes he sounds better, sounds like aware of Vietnam and war
- 22:00 Minutes in he states he is on for Climate Change Reform, but is he in for making some banker rich through Cap and Trade? How does it work Bernie? Like a Stock Market it makes an Elite guy rich from fees and interest/usury, Hey Bernie maybe the idea of usury instead of labor based capitalism is a big catastrophe, maybe Cap and Trade and International Free Trade, the WTO, the NAFTA, are all just Schemes to make Elites rich??
Sanders probably does not study up on manufactured issues created by the warmongering class.
Unlike Clinton and the neocon Republicans Sanders does not try to pull his fingers forcefully out of a chinese finger trap, consequently it can appear bad in this debate format.
Fcking murdering robots. I changed the station after one question.
"Shotgun" Joe. Not an NRA member?
I'm out...out ....out.....outttt !!!!!!!!!!!!!
I need to buy a gun and shoot myself. Thinking about it, I think I do have a nail gun in the shed.
Is anybody getting this to work online? For entertainment purposes I was hoping to see Bernie go for Hillary's jugular and then play the drinking game for about 15 minutes... figure I'll be drunk by then.
Jesus Christ! WHERE'S a suicide bomber when you REALLY need one?...
They can always go "Tupac -3d" and pipe Biden in from the 'White House' situation room. LOL
Can't believe Joe didn't declare today; he's waiting to see what happens in the debate.
Typical Biden; what a weasal, what a maroon, just figures he'd pull that shit.
Crazy Joe?
Biden is the last link to the Kennedy assassination. chuckles> forward
Hillary is just shouting again, more shrill, no thrill.
Sanders has the fire; and at least he is honest.
"Yeah, I'm a Socialist."
Trump/Sanders 2016.
20:50 Bernie Sanders sounds like Jackie Mason? (Jewish Guy from the movies/comedian)
Note: I got the time wrong on previous post since I probably am trying to interpret while drinking after 5 O'clock.
so the hillary cubts support a criminal for potus.
bernie is just aggravating to liosten to but he is the working man's hero. if democrats realize their roots bernie is their man.
the other guys are oompa loompas.
Jesus, Hillary has a great face lift.
I never saw her looking like that.
Maybe she had a stroke and got rehab to fix the fitness problems?
Bondo and three coats of enamel.
Wow...A WTF moment from Bernie the White Knight riding in, and gallantly saving old Broomstick Hilda from Anderson Cooper, filleting her on the emails, just when AC was moving in for the kill....Great theatre, great script, wouldn't believed it if I hadn't see it with my own eyes.
Time for a very large scotch...
I'm not wasting my time watching this clown show.
Am I the only one who thinks Hillary says stupid things to stir the water? Just so the republicans go crazy and the dems cheer. Either way she gets her pockets lined.
On my Facebook (I know it's horrible) people hate the other party. It's turned into hatred. And it's on racial lines/wealth lines. America is being torn apart by the dumbest things.
Sanders has the right diagnosis but the wrong prescription.
Ron Paul was right 8 years ago but that would have been an uphill climb and fat america wanted to kick the can instead.
I don't think so. I think she says what she says because she's doing the best her clueless self can do.
Reinstate Glass Stegall.
It's all a load of Shit
Hillary in a huge hurry to get off the topic of finance and financial regulation.
She's clueless, deer-in-headlights, when it comes to whether Dodd Frank is a proper replacement for Glass Steagall. She probably has no basic idea what either one does, or did, or whether we could go back to G-S, or why we would want to. Despite saying she represented Wall Street as NY Senator.
By the way Ron Paul, your hero, was deceptive and wrong. Audit the Fed? Good idea. That's why Deloitte annually audits the Board of Governors, and each of the 12 Reserve Banks, and all those audit opinions are posted (current and from prior years) on the Fed Board of Governors website.
I was puzzled he was making a deal out of this so I sent him an email showing him where those audit opinions are posted. He didn't reply. Of course not, I was taking away his pet issue with too many facts.
CNN needs to close up shop. With their 5 total regular viewers they probably don't have the capacity to live stream to a couple of hundred viewers these days. I wonder if that loser Don Lemon still reads propaganda talking points there... what a joke.
Hillary is such a Shill for TBTF Banks.
- Bernie has street Cred
- Bernie fought for more
- Bernie is asking for more
- Bernie knows we deregulated Banks and this is huge National Risk
- Hillary not so much, Hillary sucks up to the corrupting Banks. Hillary speaks for big TBTF Banks
- US Private Federal Central Bank, US Federal Reserve is watching this Debate, Reform is needed, maybe the Central Bank should be Dissolved
- Maybe the US Federal Reserve as a Private Stockholder Bank should have never been created
- Maybe we suffer today in Savings Bonds, Interest on Savings Deposits, safe investments, safe pensions, safe retirement accounts, and safe Bank reserves under Basel Accords for 2015, 2016, known as Basel III Reserve Requirements which had competition from QE Programs
Fed won't be dissolved. Every significant country and most of the insignificant ones have central banks now. Sometimes they act on behalf of the countries they "represent", sometimes they don't, but they are now everywhere.
You are correct. The FED is the ultimate backstop for the Worlds financial system. Countries will do anything, even against their own people to keep the FED in operation.
Anyone who does not understand this is a FOOL.
Finally Glass-Steagall, the #1 issue gets some airtime between either political party's debates. Other than that, the rest of the debate is full of grade AAA bullshit.
Pure comedy, I've been watching it. Cooper is not giving soff balls like I thought he would be, he is actually trying to get them fighting each other.
I stopped watching the Adele Hitler, Tin Man and the three Dweebles Show after the first billion of my brain cells exploded.....
You'd have to have less IQ than a fucking protozoa to vote for Clinton. I've seen 2 day old dog shit on my lawn cleaner than that scumbag.
None of these people represent me.
Hillary wants to put Snowden in jail.
Hillary wants to put people in jail for something else, I think it was financial crimes.
This is all pretty funny coming from Hillary, who should be in jail herself for her crimes with classified information. Maybe she just has jail on the mind recently.
These idiots are all trying to out promise each other, If Hillary wins, I will slash my wrists.
Hillary says she would be different from Obama because ...
she's a woman.
She had to be prompted to mention any other differences, and she was not very specific about them.
So true, she's a dunce, just needs a pointed cap.
...and a broom.
Webb is sharp, much better than Chaffee. Heck Webb is looking much better than Hillary. O'Malley is not impressive with his answers but his public speaking is better than Chaffe.
Sanders is just a tired old Socialist but at least he is honest about who he is unlike Hillary.
Not a great showing for Hillary but that is no surprise.
O'Malley may sound OK but he leaves out that all this leftist stuff he did as former Maryland governor ran up a big deficit and he got thrown out of office because of it. So now he wants to do the same on a national level?
If the candidates were really allowed to engage each other, someone might say that.
But probably not because nobody is scared of O'Malley, nobody feels the need to attack him.
I have a pretty good sense for people and I am here to say that Bill and Hillary are vile scum. I don't even think their daughter wants to associate with them. Look up EVIL in the dictionary any you will see their picture. I really hate saying things like this, but it has to be said. No regret.
Fuck these two douche bags, Id rather watch paint dry...
Sanders is a Democrat?
I think remember hear he was Independent.
Weird.
Who are these people anyway? They seem to be random trash bags left by visitors from planet Zzoggnarr.
They seem to believe that their species can control the weather with tax dollars.
Everyone should understand that Clinton never won an election fair and square. She was placed as the Dem. Senate nominee from NY (pushing Nita Lowey out of the way, whose turn it was to move up from the House) and she had to buy that Chappaqua house fast to establish residency in NY.
Then she won the general because a warm pile of turds could win for Senate in NY as the Dem. nominee, it's that automatic.
Wind energy is wonderful if you want energy when it's windy, fairly near to where it's windy.
Just build the windmills in front of the stage while they're talking.
Jim Webb does sound pretty good in this debate. He may now join Clinton and Sanders as candidates taken seriously.
Webb is the only serious and SANE Democratic Party Candidate that is running for President.
All others hold insane positions on almost all issues that face the American people. How is it possible that there are voters in our country today, who willfully believe that Democratic Party Governance for another 4 to 8 years is the way to go, especially with this gaggle of candidates???????????
HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE ??????
Clinton's comment about finding the Chinese and the Indians and dragging China into some agreement about climate change, is the first decent sounding accomplishment she's cited.
I disagree with the CO2 limits, but I know that others are believers in the AGW theory, and they will see what she did as effective.
She sounded like an idiot, first how lacking in cultural and diplomatic knowledge can you be and rude. It just proves my hunch about her, classless and clueless.
Hillary on her and the President's trip to climate change summit in Copenhagen..."President Obama and I were literally hunting for the Chinese. They told us they had left for the airport, we found out they were having a secret meeting but we broke in and forced them to have a meaningful meeting with them."
I bet the Chinese were like oh brother how do we get these idiots out of our meeting...oh yeah just nod our heads a bunch and smile and they will tell us we have to act now or else the world will blow up .00000001 degrees and we all die.
Hillary back to leftist female issues. She just erased the goodwill from that last answer.
I just saw the Wal-Mart workers commercial all asking Bernie and Hillary are you with us? I have a suggestion for them, you don't like your pay quit if you can't get a raise or a promotion, i have done that many times since my first job flipping burgers as teenager and all the joe jobs in college and then the pay your dues jobs after college.
It is called evolve or stay where you are, grow or die, whatever just don't blame your income on your gov't it will always be your performance and your choices you made, no one forced you, that only happens if Hillary can set up her and Bernie and Barry's Socialist Utopia. Unless of course you are a politician or teacher with tenure then you can be a turd and get paid more than you are worth.
Not one mention of 20 million illegal immigrants.
What a circle jerk of an echo chamber...
Over 100 comments and maybe 12 total downvotes...
LMAO...
Are those your recent 'Arctic Cap' Ice[depth] readings?
I won't beat you up. You're actually a pretty decent Human Being.
Thanks for what passes as kind words here...
But...
What shit are you making up now?
Are you another one that does not understand the difference between sea ice and land ice?
I'm just "ribbing you" Flak.
I appreciate the fact you actually take the time to do some homework. Whether [sarc] I agree with it, or not, is irrelevant.
Why would I want to watch communist fucktards slice and dice each other with lies, propaganda and promises of utopia that will never work in the real world of human nature?
Commie Clowns, one and all of them!
sorry the Republican debate was weeks ago-thats who you are describing, right? :/
Webb.
Because Draft Dodger Bush was such FoulUp...
I wonder which model of socialism Bernie likes best:
The Greek model?
The Argentina model?
The Venezuala model?
The Cuba model?
The North Korea model?
There are plenty to choose from.