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Meet Allen Dulles: The "Psychopath" Who Created America's Modern Shadow Government

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

Allen Dulles, the CIA director under presidents Eisenhower and Kennedy, the younger brother of Secretary of State John Foster Dulles, and the architect of a secretive national security apparatus that functioned as essentially an autonomous branch of government. Talbot offers a portrait of a black-and-white Cold War-era world full of spy games and nuclear brinkmanship, in which everyone is either a good guy or a bad guy. Dulles—who deceived American elected leaders and overthrew foreign ones, who backed ex-Nazis and thwarted left-leaning democrats—falls firmly in the latter camp.

 

But what I was really trying to do was a biography on the American power elite from World War II up to the 60s. That was the key period when the national security state was constructed in this country, and where it begins to overshadow American democracy. It’s almost like Game of Thrones to me, where you have the dynastic struggles between these power groups within the American system for control of the country and the world…

 

Absolutely. The surveillance state that Snowden and others have exposed is very much a legacy of the Dulles past. I think Dulles would have been delighted by how technology and other developments have allowed the American security state to go much further than he went. He had to build a team of cutthroats and assassins on the ground to go around eliminating the people he wanted to eliminate, who he felt were in the way of American interests. He called them communists. We call them terrorists today. And of course the most controversial part of my book, I’m sure, will be the end, where I say there was blowback from that. Because that killing machine in some way was brought back home.

 

– From the Mother Jones article: You Think the NSA Is Bad? Meet Former CIA Director Allen Dulles

Many of you will be intimately familiar with the name Allen Dulles. Younger readers, of my generation or below, will be far less so. It is precisely because the youth of this nation remain so ignorant of the nefarious characters in America’s past, that David Talbot’s recently published book, The Devil’s Chessboard: Allen Dulles, the CIA, and the Rise of America’s Secret Government, is so incredibly important.

Mr. Talbot has been recently conducting invaluable interviews about the book with various media organizations. One of the best I’ve seen is with Mother Jones. Here’s some of what he had to say about America’s longest serving CIA director:

But what I was really trying to do was a biography on the American power elite from World War II up to the 60s. That was the key period when the national security state was constructed in this country, and where it begins to overshadow American democracy. It’s almost like Game of Thrones to me, where you have the dynastic struggles between these power groups within the American system for control of the country and the world.

 

I focused on those elements that I thought were important to understanding him. I thought other books covered that ground fairly well before me. But what they left out was the interesting nuances and shadow aspects of Dulles’s biography. I think that you can make a case, although I didn’t explicitly say this in the book, for Allen Dulles being a psychopath.

 

They’ve done studies of people in power, and they all have to be, to some extent, on the spectrum. You have to be unfeeling to a certain extent to send people to their death in war and take the kind of actions that men and women in power routinely have to take. But with Dulles, I think he went to the next step. His own wife and mistress called him “the Shark.” His favorite word was whether you were “useful” to him or not. And this went for people he was sleeping with or people he was manipulating in espionage or so on. He was the kind of man that could cold-bloodedly, again and again, send people to their death, including people he was familiar with and supposedly fond of.

 

There’s a thread there between people like Dulles up through Dick Cheney and [Donald] Rumsfeld—who was sitting at Dulles’s knee at one point. I was fascinated to find that correspondence between a young Congressman Rumsfeld and Allen Dulles, who he was looking to for wisdom and guidance as a young politician.

 

Absolutely. The surveillance state that Snowden and others have exposed is very much a legacy of the Dulles past. I think Dulles would have been delighted by how technology and other developments have allowed the American security state to go much further than he went. He had to build a team of cutthroats and assassins on the ground to go around eliminating the people he wanted to eliminate, who he felt were in the way of American interests. He called them communists. We call them terrorists today. And of course the most controversial part of my book, I’m sure, will be the end, where I say there was blowback from that. Because that killing machine in some way was brought back home.

How about Dulles’ role in the assassination of JFK? Talbot pulls no punches here either…

To me it’s one of the greatest examples of media incompetence and negligence in American history. I even confronted Ben Bradlee about this, who was probably JFK’s closest friend in the Washington press corps and wrote a book all about JFK and their close friendship. “Why didn’t you, with your investigative resources, try to get [to] the bottom of it?” You should read what he says in Brothers, but basically it came down to, “Well, I thought it would ruin my career.”

 

I think I have studied this about as much as anyone in my generation at this point, and my final conclusion after 50 years was we have to go there, we have to look at the fact that there’s a wealth of circumstantial evidence that says not only was there, at the highest level, CIA involvement. Probably in the assassination cover-up. But beyond the CIA, because the CIA wouldn’t have acted on its own.

But the CIA are good guys now. Or so the propagandized American public believes…

Now check out David’s interview with Amy Goodman of Democracy Now:

 

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Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:07 | 6669596 Bernanke'sDaddy
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I also recommend James Corbett's excellent podcast.

https://www.corbettreport.com/episode-307-meet-allen-dulles-fascist-spym...

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:19 | 6669621 Looney
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Allen Dulles: “Power To Lead”

Ben Bernanke: “Courage To Print”

Megalomaniacal cunts!  ;-)

Looney

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:33 | 6669644 Oh regional Indian
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Actually it goes back a bit further than that.,,

THe man who got the modern deep state ball rolling was William "Wild Bill" Donovan and the OSS....

The Dulles brothers were phase two...

The roots are the real tell...

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:41 | 6669662 ZerOhead
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The Hedge is going to be experiencing the internet equivalent of Boston Brakes shortly...

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:53 | 6669692 Ignatius
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We ZH'rs will then rise up and insult them to death.  Count on it.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:27 | 6669761 Fed Supporter
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"and thwarted left-leaning democrats" 

Oh how I miss the old days, now they are left unthwarted to screw everything up.  Maybe it is intentional though.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:03 | 6669818 savagegoose
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or watch the movie, the good sheppard

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 06:16 | 6670130 Bendromeda Strain
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Heh - amusingly enough, the CIA gives a review of that movie on their own website. Surprisingly fair actually, they rightly laugh at he notion of all the important plotting and planning happening at Deer Island Skull and Bones retreats. Dulles didn't go to Yale, he went to Princeton. There is no doubt that a young Poppy got his marching orders at one of those soirees, though. Ever see that picture of him standing outside Parkland Hospital?

On another note, the whole Eddie Redmayne cuccina pillow talk blowing the Bay of Pigs operation was a ridiculous plot device.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 08:14 | 6670284 Urban Redneck
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The fundamental problem with both Hollywood and the tinfoil hatters in regards to the CIA is that they need "faces" to sell their plot lines, despite the the fact that the faces and names are actually irrelevant, by design.  The Dulles Brother's weren't the Genesis and they are long gone from this world and their scion aren't part of the machinery they collaborated to build.  The evil brilliance is the system, the men involved are merely cogs in that machine.  You can kill them or they can send each other to their deaths, and the impact on system and its ability to function is negligible.  The notion of "reform" is a joke, outsiders (such as the Church committee, or Schlesinger, Turner, Webster, et al) are incapable of it an insiders (Goss, Brennan, et al) actually protect and enhance the institution and at most sacrifice a few of their "old friends" for good headlines to sell the myth of reform like the tinfoil hatters sell their myths of grand conspiracy. 

Until someone (with authority) takes a systemic (as opposed to personnel) approach to change, we will be stuck in the usual Rinse, Repeat cycle (shifting boxes on a PowerPoint org chart is not systemic change), and the talking heads will talk themselves into naive dead ends with comments such as, "because the CIA wouldn’t have acted on its own."   CIA detractors hunting ghosts serves the CIA well.  However, if you want to kill the vampire, you need to find its coffin and put a stake through its heart, only once you have found its coffin and the secrets contained therein can you actually follow the webs leading to involved "outsiders".    

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 09:21 | 6670605 kralizec
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Wait, what?  I'm reading a quote from Mother Jones?  OK, now Alex perhaps...Mother?

I need some weed before I read.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 01:24 | 6669918 Bring the Gold
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I'm trying to remember the last left leaning Democrat until Sanders emerged. This country has moved so far towards fascism you have to be to the right of Himler before you are seen as anything but left leaning. Show me some nationalization of industry as opposed to privatization of government duties in the past 40 years. Please show me. It doesn't happen. There are only Fascist Oligarch bailouts which are not, I repeat NOT Communist. When ExxonMobil is nationalized we can talk about a Communism problem in this country.

Until then it's the RIGHT WING version of Socialism we should be concerned about and that is known as Fascism. Call it what it is.

Remember Hitler's rise to power occurred due to the Fascists murdering the Communists in Germany. Now to be clear Communism lead to mass murder and horrific conditions. Communism and Fascism are both TOTALITARIAN REGIMES.
The difference is in whether there is privatized industry via Crony Capitalism with things like bailouts from the public as is the case with Fascism. OR if the means of production are controlled solely by the state as is the case in Communism.

Clearly our country has a FASCIST not Communist problem. Anyone who has studied history can see that. Dulles was a Fasicst (see his support of Nazi's, many of whom were brought into the US government after WW II in operation Paperclip). It is the Fascists we need to worry about. I haven't seen a Communism problem in this country at any point. I have seen the right wing Socialists known as Fascists gaining ever more overt power. See Bush I (which includes Reagan), to a lesser extent Clinton, Bush II and of course our current Fascist Obama.

All the non-sense about Communism is a bunch of horse shit. It's Fascism plain and simple and this article outlines the genesis of the problem. 

The Obama is a Communist meme throws you off the scent. He's a FASCIST! 

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 03:11 | 6670013 Doubleguns
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Well then it seem the communists and the facists are fighting to rule this country and the "folks" are getting slaughtered by both sides. No wonder these two parties feel like I am choosing between drinking hemlock or strychnine. 

 

We are so fucked. 

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 08:19 | 6670299 Macchendra
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Obama, like HRC, is Republican-lite.  Still more wars paid for by pixie dust and unicorn farts.  More bank bailouts.  More anti-Glass-Steagall: "Hmmmm...  I wonder why it is such a bad idea to let businesses that are given the ability to virtually manufacture credit MERGE with the companies playing in the casino?"  More law enforcement against those looney pot-heads.  More anti-labor Milton Freedman "these CEOs are really taking a beating from unfairly priced American labor and need free-trade agreements and H1Bs to short the labor market across the board".  Meanwhile, the only bad that the allegedly non-mainstream right media can see is birth certificates and allegations of obamunism.

Obama, like everyone other than Sanders, is right of Nixon.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 06:19 | 6670134 Bendromeda Strain
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Yes dear, you have both parties running on the National Socialist platform. Happy now?

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 06:36 | 6670145 nmewn
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"Show me some nationalization of industry as opposed to privatization of government duties in the past 40 years. Please show me."

Oh I dunno, government stepping in to bail out New York banks, Detroit car makers (in fact, the same one for the second time in my life time), forcing all citizens to purchase health insurance all the while expanding the states regulatory compliance department to the point hardly no small business can comply and be profitable is playing both sides of Socialist Street (partial state ownership vs. complete state ownership) and it doesn't matter if they've created a law requiring you to turn left or right at the Marx Avenue intersection or not...lol...it's still NOT the Laissez Faire Blvd. we all recognize and love to travel on with no apprehension of ever getting lost.

The fact of the matter is, is it's a hybrid socialist system they've created for themselves at the peoples expense and as that very smart fellow Jonathan Gruber once observed it's "the stupidity of the American voter" that allows it to happen.

How is that so nmewn?

Well, I'll tell you. It's called marketing, they come before us and say "We'll keep you safe." everyone shouts Hooray! (and you get the Patriot Act) they never tell you the costs in liberty or time or money, they are salesmen. They come before you and say "It's a right to own a home." everyone shouts Hooray! (and you get the Community Reinvestment Act) they never tell you the costs in liberty or time or money, they are salesmen.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 09:11 | 6670513 SWRichmond
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...and in large part, IMO, they get away with their salesmanship by keeping the middle class preoccupied with existential threats, problems, and trying to deal with the endless, mindless bureacracy that is modern government.  NEA / public schools have been instrumental in this.  In order to stay in the middle class, both parents now work (if they're still married).  Weeknights with children in public school are an utter, hurried chaos.

Rad Fems have made it nearly impossible for couples to stay married, so men, instead of proudly leading and providing for a family, and being the ones in the couple who think about the future, are beaten down by the (government) system which is trying its damndest to seperate them from their kids and take their money (all of it, and then some). "Salesmanship" at the muzzle of a gun.  As a side note, I have made the case before that these men largely have little left to lose and could / should form the core of ther resistance to come.  Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.

"Work" is no longer about making stuff, it is about droning away in a bureacracy somewhere, working indoors in a nice office.  No value added, no productive activity, just regulatory compliance, tax compliance, HR, legal, shuffling bits on a screen...another outcome of massive government intervention into everything. 

And when all of that isn't enough, then yes, they blow shit up, unleash a small group of "terrorists" they created and equipped themselves, grab the headlines for a few weeks, remind us how essential "they" are to us.  People really don't understand how big "big" is, how much you can do with a "missing" $2 Trillion.

Hang any name on it you want.  Government IS the problem.  It's purposes are slavery and looting.  Nothing more.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 11:07 | 6671109 Rabbi Chaim Cohen
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Give it whatever name you want, it is all statist tyranny and must be tamed, otherwise our children wind up stuck in centuries of high tech globalist caprice. The New Dark Ages...

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 06:49 | 6670151 skipjack
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You're bring your F game. What was the name of the Nazi party ? Something like National SOCIALIST Party ? Yes ?

 

Fascism is not a disease of the right; that's a bill of goods sold you in your social studies classes. Fascism is a disease of the left, as is communism. The common denominator is CONTROL.

You see communism all over the US, you just are refusng to see. Go read the 80,000 pages of Federal Regulations, add in tens of thousands more for the states and local governments. Have you ever owned a business ? Neither have I, altho the IRS says I do. I am told how to conduct my business, down to the type of covering on the shop floor approved by OSHA. There is no freedom in this country anywhere; we are all owned by the state and any profit you make goes back to the state in the form of taxes. There's a reason why the multinationals have all their money overseas; it would belong to the government if it was in the USA.

 

Open your eyes.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 07:45 | 6670207 flapdoodle
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Indeed, Fascism is argueably Communism v2.0.

Benito Mussolini, the father of Fascism, was originally a Communist who became impatient with the failings, internal contradictions and ineptness of Communism so he redesigned it as the fusion of Communism and the Corporate state.

Under both Communism and Fascism, the overarching, essential paradigm is the same - control is exercised by the thin elite at the top, today in the West known as the 1% (more accurately 0.01%). Under Communism, known as the "nomenklatura". The come-on under Communism that "people own the means of production" was always just bait to make it palateable to the masses. The real owners of the means of production was always the nomenklatura, just like in the West.

The key event in our time is that the "nomenklatura" abandoned the Soviet Union in the early 1990's and moved to the West - the whole "neo-con" movement is basically made up of Western ex-Communists who symbolically abandoned Communism concurrently with the nomenklatura literally abandoning the Soviet Union, who are still at heart Judeo-Bolsheviks but who now exercise control within the US Deep State.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 07:20 | 6670194 Ace006
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No sale. It's the odd duck who cares about nationalizing industry now. Communist shifted to destroying the culture, undermining institutions, and regulating and draining the productive.

Obama's mentor was a commie and he started his political career in the living room of two communist terrorists. Jarrett's f-i-l and godfather were commies and they hired Van Jones, a commie. Anita Dunn slobbers over the political philosophy of Mao. 

Fascism is just totalitarianism or authoritarianism with a corporate face.

Commie Sanders wants a 90% top tax rate. Because Hillary wants 89.9% doesn't make her a right winger.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 07:26 | 6670195 Lea
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Only a slight problem with your otherwise faultless comment, Bring the Gold.
Socialism and Communism are the same thing. Not one country has ever branded itself communist. Even the USSR was the Union of Socialist Soviet Republics.
And there can be NO socialism without State-run companies and nationalizations.

What we're talking here has nothing to do with communism OR socialism. It's only your usual malodorous fascism, where private corporations rule with the full backing of the whole of the State apparatus, including the military and police.
The Americans are way too used to throwing around words like "commie" or "socialist" without regard for their definition. In the eyes of the leaders, it's all good as it makes for more and more confusion. No-one wants the US citizens to be able to think straight, right? So, muddling their definitions is a good place to start.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 07:45 | 6670224 minority
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Spot on brother, spot on ...

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 09:36 | 6670706 Pickleton
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In other words, you're the kind of idiot that ignores that left wing democrats have controlled this country for a generation and somehow or other the fascism is right wing.   You're right it's very fascist, but your understanding of where it came from... not so much.  IT'S NOT RIGHT WING. You're going to want to seek out who the progressives are and how they swallowed the democrat party whole.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 10:33 | 6671004 Bring the Gold
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I think people are confused by the culture war. The CULTURAL left has been decisively winning for about 30 years. However, the business and deep state levers of control have drifted ever more towards fascism. Really gay marriage and all that non-sense is just noise. Is anyone freer now than 30 years ago? Maybe some minorities groups are better off as institutionalized racism has been challenged. Really though the middle class white man'a level of freedom had been greatly reduced with minor gains in liberty for women and minorities. As a country liberty is on the wane.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 10:56 | 6671069 Rabbi Chaim Cohen
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The commonly referenced political spectra of Europe and the USA are very different and are often confused/melded into a nonsensical construct because of failure to recognize these differences:

The European system is a redundant spectrum comprised of the various forms of BIG GOVERNMENT. Europe lives under constant soft tyranny. On the Left is Communism, on the right is Nationalism (Fascism) and the center is a wide sub-spectrum of the various bents of Socialism. The consistent driving force is always collectivist ideology and Government largess. The system would have collapsed long ago without the American economic engine.

America: Although America has largely abandoned the concept in the past couple of generations. The spectrum WAS DESIGNED by America's Framers to be based on the SIZE OF GOVERNMENT. On the far left is tyranny, on the far right is Anarchy.

The US Founders wanted the American people to self-govern. So they slid toward the right and original US Federal Government was under the Articles of Confederation, but it was a bit too close to Anarchy. The Federal Government had too little power to force the States to help pay for the Revolutionary War efforts and was scrapped in favor of the US Constitution. The degree that the average individual inputs his responsibility is the quid pro quo that he MUST pay for continued freedom. Personal civic responsibility is directly proportional to the size of the US Federal Government.

As we have seen from the beginning American history is that very few Americans have understood that their failure to be responsible and put forth effort to tame the appetites of politicians have allowed the US Federal Government to grow into the same soft tyranny that Europe has long accepted in place of the old monarchies. Those who did were forced to secede and were then met with the full force of the Standing Army that the Anti-Federalists cautioned us about.

As a result we now have a massive entitlement class that has swollen to epic proportions both in the rabble of ingrates in the inner city housing and the boardrooms in the ivory towers.

American Experiment? -> FAIL.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:21 | 6669678 Ignatius
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"The CIA is the organized crime branch of the United States government.  Everything that it does is illegal."

"The CIA has two criteria for anything that it does.  One is that it has intelligence potential.  Second, whatever it does has to be deniable.  If the CIA can't set it up where it's actions can be denied, they won't do it."

-- Douglas Valentine (Doug interviewed former CIA director William Colby about the Phoenix Program in Vietnam.  Colby then introduced him to every top CIA official associated with Phoenix.  Doug has these interviews archived and on tape).

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 05:47 | 6670107 Grumbleduke
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- whatever it does has to be deniable -

That's why ISIS is fucked in the long run.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 07:32 | 6670206 Ace006
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No. The agency focuses on access, product, and covert operation. Deniability is what you hope and pray you have after it all goes to shit and you need four hours to clean up and get out.

Deniability is a stupid, romantic notion that makes some idiot manager think that a black guy from Omaha who speaks only English and Spanish who is captured in Laos with a ton of C-4 but no driver's license won't be figured as a U.S. operative.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:22 | 6669850 Max Cynical
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Facinating stuff!

Look at the modern day parallels...a CIA war to oust Assad in Syria and a reluctant Obama.

The only reason they probably haven't taken out Obama (yet) is because he's so easily manipulated.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:28 | 6669859 MANvsMACHINE
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That's not correct. The real reason why they haven't taken BO out is because #blacklivesmatter.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:24 | 6669855 Max Cynical
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Really makes you wonder what Michael Hastings was on to.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 02:36 | 6669990 Nassim
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His brother was responsible for foreign policy. They worked in tandem - CIA and State Department

The Brothers: John Foster Dulles, Allen Dulles, and Their Secret World War

http://www.amazon.com/The-Brothers-Foster-Dulles-Secret/dp/0805094970

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:21 | 6669623 BandGap
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This man was George Bush Sr. boss for many years. Go figure.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 05:51 | 6670091 Thought Processor
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Very True.  G. Bush Sr. has roots in the CIA from at least 1954 on.  Father Prescott was a Crony of the Dulles brothers and LBJ (who was a good friend and neighbor of J. Edgar Hoover, as they both had shit on........ everyone in Gov.  And neither were afraid to use it).  GHWB has many links to the JFK assasination.  Many that show he was much more than a bit player in it.

 

If you dig into this history and all the players in it the pieces all start to fall together.  The CIA was central (and still is) to all of this.

 

However it does lead down the rabbit hole because eventually you run into things like the 5412 group and then back to the MJ-12 group which leads back to.............  the signing of the National Security Act of 1947 on July 26th 1947 in the back of an airplane while on the runway at Andrews.  Why the rush to sign you ask?  Good question.

Anyone care to guess?  What happened in early June / July that lit a fire under everyone's ass?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Act_of_1947

 

 

 

 

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 05:52 | 6670111 Grumbleduke
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GHWB is probably the only person of his generation who can't remember where he was as Kennedy was assassinated.

Yeah, right! I don't remember what I did as the towers fell...

Such things are said by criminals, who don't want to implicate themselves.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 06:31 | 6670142 Bendromeda Strain
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He was walking in circles outside Parkland Hospital kinda like Gene Rosen at the firehouse....

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 12:16 | 6671419 detached.amusement
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Sacred Cow, indeed

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:24 | 6669626 remain calm
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Hilary is his illegitimate child.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 07:40 | 6670218 Ace006
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Now that is a solid contribution to these comments.

This article itself is thin gruel to be sure if the interview is no more illuminating than the text.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:34 | 6669869 SixIsNinE
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 ++ Corbett's really been consistently good in covering important aspects of our world and it's peoples history -  I really learned a lot about the Rockefeller/China-Mao history ....check that podcast out.  I hope JC is getting compensated well, and staying clear of Fukushima fallout

It's really difficult for most people not involved with the War Department MIC related industries to understand just how Gargantuan this beast is.  This is Trillions $$$ ... check out defensenews.com for a quick glimpse into the thick of it...

the Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth have just come out with a kickass report & PDF on the science of what we know happened to the structural failures @ the WTC complex.

go to http://www.beyondmisinformation.org/#beyond-misinformation 

you can buy the pdf for the price of a coffee, $2.50 @ the link

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 07:42 | 6670221 Ace006
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I can't WAIT to get my hands on it.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 07:05 | 6670168 doctor10
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the psychosociopaths running the country can look like anyone or anything

They're scraping the bottom of the barrel tho with Miz Hillarry

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:08 | 6669601 Demdere
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911 was this generation's JFK and RFK assassinations.  911 was a false flag, obviously, no question for anyone who bothers to look at the evidence and the people presenting it.

https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/02/09/166/

Facing up to 911 is what our current 'leaders' are avoiding.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:42 | 6669667 Dr. Bonzo
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If you take a closer look at the JFK assassination vis-a-vis 9/11 you soon begin to realize that the JFK assassination is virtually a template for 9/11. Useful patsy with myriad ties to the US intelligence community as a fall guy; contaminated physical evidence to destroy the usefulness of the evidence; deliberately staged diversions; bizarre deviations from standard protocol; quick destruction of physical evidence subsequent to the crime being committed; a "narrative" of the crime put in place within hours of the crime being committed; cronies in charge of the investigation which is more or less a white-wash; compliant press regurgitates govt misinfo... .etc etc etc.....

Step-by-step you realize 9/11 is JFK assassination writ large.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:55 | 6669697 Colonel Klink
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They just didn't think of finding Lee Harvey Oswalds pristine passport on the book repository floor back then.

LHO was then later and conveniently assasinated by Jack RUBENSTEIN.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Ruby

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:11 | 6669719 MayIMommaDogFac...
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I love talking about Kennedy. I was just down in Dallas, Texas. You know you can go down there and, ah, to Dealey Plaza where Kennedy was assassinated. And you can actually go to the sixth floor of the School Book Depository. It’s a museum called … The Assassination Museum. I think they named that after the assassination. I can’t be too sure of the chronology here, but …

 

Anyway they have the window set up to look exactly like it did on that day. And it’s really accurate, you know. ’Cause Oswald’s not in it.

 

Yeah, yeah, so wow, that’s cool. Painstaking accuracy, you know. It’s true. It’s called the ‘Sniper’s Nest’. It’s glassed in, it’s got the boxes sitting there.

 

You can’t actually get to the window as such but the reason they did that, of course, they didn’t want thousands of American tourists getting there each year going [Mimes looking out of window] “No fucking way! I can’t even see the road. FUCK, they’re lying to us. FUCK! Where are they? There’s no fucking way!”

- Bill Hicks

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:16 | 6669839 ZerOhead
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< Alex Jones is Bill Hicks

< Bill Hicks is dead

http://beforeitsnews.com/conspiracy-theories/2014/09/irrefutable-proof-t...

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:53 | 6669888 MayIMommaDogFac...
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Bill Hicks had a real way with words...

Alex Jones has kind of an interesting voice -- but he ain't that sharp, and he's no wordsmith.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 06:01 | 6670116 Grumbleduke
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and there are plenty of videos to be found, where Bill loses his shit. No similarities to Jones and his tirades!

I don't know what kind of asshole created the meme, but I know one for sure: people, who believe this shit, are the bigger assholes.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:47 | 6669883 SixIsNinE
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correct Dr. Bonzo - create a massive shock trauma and amidst the confusion the WAR operations can move full speed ahead, and at the same time the cabal takes the opportunity to rearrange gooberment in a myriad of ways ....

i don't envy the people that strategize these events and make them happen -

i listen to Craig Hulet's podcasts sometimes and went to his site to see if he had a recent one for his take on the Syria/Russia-Putin situation, and he's pretty sure that Putin has said NO MORE and means it - and yes, we're on the edge of a conventional type WWIII type of conflict ...

....as someone the other day said, another day, in the bizarro world of "As the World Wars Turn" or something like that :)  - and as Herr Martin Armstrong warns, "Things Are Gettin' Real !"

Hulet notes that unlike ZH faithful, more Amurricans are blissfully ignorant of the seriousness of what's happening ... as our current shame-stream media keeps the regular doses of shock-shooting events as the sheeple-prod to maintain their attention ...

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 07:48 | 6670235 Ace006
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Completely wrong. The sinking of the Maine was the real trial run. TPTB sank our own ship so they could blame it on the Spanish. 

I am not making this up.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:15 | 6669603 JustObserving
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Kennedy's killing was ordered by Dulles.  That was when the Deep State took over the land of the free. Now a troika of the MIC, Wall Street and Spooks is firmly in control

Did CIA Director Allen Dulles Order the Hit on JFK?

In a blistering but painstaking profile of the Cold War CIA chief, David Talbot’s damning accusations include the allegation that Dulles was behind the Kennedy assassination.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/10/13/did-allen-dulles-order-...

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:26 | 6669632 Usurious
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debt-money, it whats for breakfast....

dulles was a 'patsy' working on behalf of the international bankers......their goal........a warfare/welfare state (vietnam/great/society).....which LBJ delivered and Nixon finished it by closing the gold window.....all by bankster design...........

one must view history in reverse to understand it.......

the system is the master and all must serve it...trav7777

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:35 | 6669779 Fed Supporter
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the system is the master and all must serve it

Trav7777 was not smart enough to say something like that which you attributed to him.  The guy was a cable installer for Comcast.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:41 | 6669792 ZerOhead
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That makes him NSA

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:09 | 6669822 Usurious
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here is the quote asshole...............go suk sme banker cock

 

'The system is the master; all must serve it.  Credit must grow or else SHTF.  I told Douchinger too; if you do not borrow, they will borrow on your behalf.'

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/household-net-worth-plunges-most-q4-2008-government-borrowing-surges#comment-588917

 

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:57 | 6669895 MayIMommaDogFac...
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+10 Nicely played

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:40 | 6669657 Jack Burton
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Kennedy was led to the slaughter by the CIA. The removal the bullet proof cover of the car, the failure to control buildings along the route, the allowing of open windows in buildings along the route, the very trip to Texas itself, the motor route. They led him right to the killer, like in any slaughter house.

Standard procedure is to secure and sweep bulidings along the route. This was not done that day.

The execution of the supposed killer. Again led by cops right into the waiting arms of the killer.

 

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:00 | 6669683 ZerOhead
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Don't forget that the Secret Service detail assisted in the assasination... the two body guards that were supposed to stand on the back of the Presidents car were waved off and the driver even slowed down for the head shot. And let's not even get into the complicity of the Houston police Department and several Federal agencies.

Here's a great little article on the Dulles Bros and who THEY worked for...

http://www.countercurrents.org/janson170812.htm

 

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:19 | 6669741 dot_bust
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You're spot-on. Excellent analysis.

I've always believed that the key to the whole thing was the stripping of Kennedy's security.

Anyone who looks at photos and film footage of the motorcade passing through Dealey Plaza can see that Kennedy was left unprotected. Virtually anyone with a gun would have been able to take a shot at him.

In fact, the lack of security is so obvious that it's obscene. And those Secret Service agents had plenty of time to run to the limo to stop Kennedy from being killed. Once the shooting started in Dealey Plaza, the agents had over 10 seconds before Kennedy was shot in the head. That's an eternity.

Then, as you mentioned, there were no agents on the back of Kennedy's limo. Also, you have a good point about the driver. He did indeed slow the limo down, making it easier for Kennedy to be targeted by rifles.

 

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:46 | 6669801 Bernanke'sDaddy
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Yep.

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8

 

Anyone who doubts that JFK was an inside job is mentally deficient.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:34 | 6669868 MANvsMACHINE
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This country is full of mentally deficient folks.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 01:08 | 6669906 SixIsNinE
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heard somebody say them Harvard studies show a 14% decrese in IQ from the fluoride crapola in the water supplies.....

always remember the Bankster's Lair in the SE corner of the Med has banned allowing such poisons into their drinking supplies.... catch a clue maybe we should....

 

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:52 | 6669803 ZerOhead
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There was a kid in the sewer that fired the shot that blew the back of his head off although there were numerous shooters there that day. He was in the sewer and shot out of a grate at the side of the road where Kennedys driver slowed the car down at. The motorcycle cop headed right for it immediately after the shot was fired.

He was reported to the cops when he showed up at a car dealership down the street with mud on his shoes and acting weird.

It's all in the movie "From JFK to 9/11 It's all a rich mans trick"

BTW... if you want to get up to speed with what is happening today you can't beat Corbett Report and once you get totally up to speed and are ready for the greatest mindfuck around head on down to www.redefininggod.com where your head is going to explode.

 

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 01:13 | 6669910 SixIsNinE
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 - i thought the "rich trick" doc attempts to lay too much of the blame on the bushies ...

without going into the Bankster Fed Owners ....

better to spend your time on this documentary, "Welcome to Truth" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAaQTnCNo70   that's the full 4 hour link - i watched it recently and it kept my attention - well worth it

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 05:48 | 6670100 Thought Processor
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The sewer shot finished him off.   No doubt.  Apparently they can now have the vapor trails (from bullets) made visible from the various film footage and photographs.  They just analyse the distortion in the photo with a computer and it picks out the distorted air left behind the bullets.  Rumor has it that this exists (alledgedly from dated DIA analysis) for the JFK footage and it shows no less than 7 vapor trails.

 

It was all sanctioned.  From the highest level, which the National Security state had then asserted itself into for the first time.  This is why McCain called it an 'intervention.'

 

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 03:09 | 6671957 Radical Marijuana
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Thanks for that link, SixIsNinE!

I will watch it through when I get time ... However, after watching the first hour ... As one could guess from that arrogant title, it was another Crazy Christian documentary, with relatively good historical analysis, but then, classic collapse to bullshit-based solutions, due to penchants for false fundamental dichotomies, and the related impossible ideals.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 06:09 | 6670124 Gatos Locos
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Houston?  WTF....any 3rd grader knows Kennedy was shot in Dallas.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 17:55 | 6672958 ZerOhead
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Damn... that's probably due to all of the Apollo moon landing stuff i've been reading lately!

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:28 | 6669637 cowdiddly
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I always wondered why that is such a shitty airport.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:34 | 6669647 venturen
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So this is the guy who causes corruption in Chicago? Let focus on today's leaders...not someone 6 ft under

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:54 | 6669695 ThroxxOfVron
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You will only understand how to stop evil when you know what it is, how it functions, and where it comes from.

Without a clear understanding of the actors within and the architecture of the power structure, it's proceedures for operating and for perpetuating itself; you cannot hope to assess it's weaknesses and assail it effectively.

Kicking the shadow of the snake will not destroy it.

We must target it's head.

We must locate the nest.

...& if we are not to destroy our own society, our useful institutions, our families and even ourselves in purging the system: we must be careful, sure, methodical and surgical.

Blowing your own head off is not the same as brain surgery -although both will excise a cancerous tumor...

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:46 | 6669675 Jack Burton
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Today I read an interview with one of the USSR's former top intelligence agents, at the very top of KGB. He had interesting things to say about the CIA. Basically they are a "coup machine". Each nation has it's own plan, for coup. Even Australia was subject to a CIA coup. Iran of course. So many others. I suggest that the USA itself is basically a coup government. CIA long ago did a coup in the USA, and have held power as agents of what we call the Deep State. Killing Kennedy was that coup, since then a certain elite has held power, Clinton was basically a total CIA puppet, Bush as well. Obama? Well, nobody really believes that jack ass is president! Like Clinton and Bush, he is a placeholder president, holding the seat of the Deep State rulers who have CIA as their direct tool of power projection.

I wonder, how many Americans still cling to the belief of freedom of the individual in America. Of people's choice, Americans getting together and deciding who will lead and under what policies. Does someone still think we pleebs decide anything?

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:06 | 6669814 JuliaS
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Within three years of the peak [domestic oil extraction], the US went from world's number 1 lender nation to  world's number 1 debtor. Three years later the House  Sub-committee On Foreign Relations produces a paper called ‘Oil fields  as military objectives, a feasibility study’ - now known as an American  plan to bring democracy to the Middle East. I’m not saying that the US if more evil than anybody else.  They’re not. They just gots the capability. I’m sure in 1977 Trinidad produced their own document called ‘Oil-Fields as Military Objectives’. It just wasn’t so feasible.

‘What is the full strength of our Navy?’,

‘Would that be including jet ski’s sir?’

- Robert Newman (History Of Oil)

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:20 | 6669846 dark pools of soros
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locally the pleebs can make gains but that is too boring and not enough yelling about abortions and mexicans

 

 

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 07:59 | 6670255 Ace006
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I love the yelling about Mexicans part. No federal official seems to do that, except our guys in the Border Patrol.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 01:19 | 6669915 SixIsNinE
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no Jack - thinkers don't think we pleebs decide anything ...

as i noted prior - Craig Hulet states that kind of sentiment clearly in his interviews ...

here's a link to his latest  http://www.eliasound.biz/hulet/mp3s/2015/10.08.15.mp3

....or craigbhulet.com

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:48 | 6669677 Lyman54
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Another excellent book that Dulles is refered  in is The Secret Team by Fletcher Prouty.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 02:13 | 6669972 Salah
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very difficult book to read

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:51 | 6669687 Colonel Klink
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And papa Bush senior follows right along in those footsteps.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 22:58 | 6669701 ZerOhead
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That's why Jeb has simply got to win... he's willing to kill to get what he wants if he can just manage to get to his walker with a fresh pair of adult diapers on.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:02 | 6669708 Colonel Klink
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No way Jeb is going to win.  He's too much of a fucking pansy.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:14 | 6669728 ZerOhead
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$50 says if he lunges at Trump in the next debate and pins him to the ground for 5 or more seconds he's 20 points ahead in the polls the next day...

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:13 | 6669734 Colonel Klink
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You're on!  $50 says Trump's hair, pins (get it) Jeb "Clampett" Bush.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 01:09 | 6669907 MayIMommaDogFac...
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I would definitely watch that debate -- if I thought that was gonna happen.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:03 | 6669707 Radical Marijuana
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From Wikipedia's

Dulles biography:

In 1926, he earned a law degree from George Washington University Law School and took a job at Sullivan and Cromwell, the New York firm where his brother, John Foster Dulles, was a partner. He became a director of the Council on Foreign Relations in 1927, the first new director since the Council's founding in 1921. He was the Council's secretary from 1933 to 1944.

The CIA was shaped by Wall Street Lawyers, to become a tool to advance the agenda of the international bankers, who were the best organized gangsters, that effectively captured control over governments.

Several other people who post comments on Zero Hedge have previously recommended this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM

JFK to 911 Everything Is A Rich Man's Trick

That is a three and a half hour long video.

That TITLE confirms what I had already
concluded was the case, that the ways
that the Kennedy assassination were
successful, then led to those ways
9/11 was a successful false flag!

OF COURSE, that video was another
reactionary revolution presentation.

The majority of it is EXCELLENT ANALYSIS,
mostly about the Kennedy assassination,
which was put in the overall context of
many other similar historical events.

However, towards the end it presents
bullshit 'solutions' based on mistakes
that blame EVERYTHING on the rich!

The ruling classes did NOT create
chronic political problems, which
are inherent in the nature of life.

The ruling classes ONLY provided sets of
expedient solutions which benefit them!

Genuinely better resolutions of chronic
problems inherent in the nature of life
can not be achieved by blaming only
ruling classes for being so deceitful.

That video superficially "shares" some of the "blame"
with the general population, but in no coherent way,
other than typical psychology, without any ecology.

My recent restatement of that deeper view is under:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-10-09/deep-state-source-all-negativity

The Deep State: Source Of All Negativity

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:34 | 6669742 ZerOhead
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Now you're catching on... ;)

Now do some research into Trotsky, Marx and Adam Weishaupt and you'll have it all figured out.

Chilling yet illuminating story about the interogation of Rakovsky ordered by Lenin btw...

http://www.savethemales.ca/000275.html

Then just head down to RDG to catch up on the latest machinations every now and then.

http://redefininggod.com/

 

Now you are good to go... enjoy the ShitShow!

Fri, 10/30/2015 - 16:10 | 6732236 Sorry_about_Dresden
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Prescott Bush is also Cromwell & Sullivan alumni. 

This trip down the rabbit hole leads, I think, to Dulles' association with Martin Bormann. The whole purpose of OSS and CIA was to first provide a framework for financial coordination between the NAZIs and industry. Keeping the money flowing. Then to cover this up after the war. 

This was Dulles' intent when forming the CIA.....to cover the tracks of the industrialist who profited from the war and kept it going dealing through neutral countries and such. That is why Dulles spent the war years in Switzerland; that is where they laundered the gold and booty taken from the vanquished nations.

The plant that Henry Ford built for the NAZIs operated throughout the war, was never bombed by the Allies, and is probably still operating today.

Dulles was very successful in subterfuge, selling that fake ass American image that was force feed to us as children.

We are old and grey by the time we figure out what really happened and the whole nation is run by traitors. 

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:02 | 6669709 Luckhasit
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The Corbett Report did a great and in depth review of Allen Dulles.  I recommend it to my fellow Zhers if you have the time.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:08 | 6669718 Radical Marijuana
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Yes, as the first comment under this article already linked.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:39 | 6669787 ZerOhead
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Don't miss Corbett or Ken at RDG who Corbett is also in agreement with as is Brandon at Alt-market

Then you get to be able to understand everything that is currently happening and where it is heading. More or less...

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 14:18 | 6671938 Radical Marijuana
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Yes, ZerOhead, I generally agree with their analysis. However, when it comes to recommending "solutions," I do NOT think that anything based upon impossible ideals could work. Rather, we are stuck having to muddle through the madness that the most psychotic psychopaths were able to dominate civilization through backing up lies with violence. In that context, any "solutions" based upon impossible ideals asserting that should not be the case do NOT change that IT IS MADNESS!

The excessive successfulness of controlling civilization through applications of the principles and methods of organized crime is SYMBOLIZED by the history of the CIA, acting to enforce the frauds of the international banksters. Their excessive successfulness has resulted in driving civilization as a whole toward runaway criminal insanities ...

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 18:08 | 6673014 ZerOhead
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I agree completely with your assessment however the simple act of governments taking back their right to create their nations own debt free currencies from the bankers is the first step to take. Then the government can introduce the proper amount into circulation to keep the economy from collapsing while retiring it's national debt by buying the bonds back and cancelling them.

Unfortunately we have to surmount the challenge of waking the entire muttonhead population up and that is going to prove to be simply impossible unless we experience a systemic collapse which the lobalist will make sure we won't.

Anyway... it's just nice to be able to watch the shitshow knowing what is actually going on.

 

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 19:28 | 6673282 Radical Marijuana
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YES, I AGREE

in principle:

... the simple act of governments taking back their right to create their nations' own debt free currencies from the bankers is the first step to take ...

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:05 | 6669712 Aquarius
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Off Topic Announcement: Global Banking Network

No, the World is NOT Ending, just the Phase Shift at the end of and beginning of Two Major Universal Cycles.

I now state clearly, that the Banking System is broken: it is also totally corrupted. All I have said is absolutely correct, - in all my posts and Blog, comments on this matter over the past ~10 years and more.

The Solar System is experiencing major and most significant changes - visible and observed - in particular, Saturn, Jupiter, et al. What does this mean? I say it means a looming Ice Age; that is to say, a Telluric Event; another Maunder Minimum.  And this is in natural conjunction with the collapse of the Banking System and more importantly, its Global Network; a Major Cyclic event that impacts ALL life on Earth and which includes the planet, itself... History speaks for itself. The Banking Network has become until now, the Thread that connects all humans, states, nations and all things upon the planet. It has been destroyed by those themselves, that would be King. This is to say, those that call themselves elite "Economists", and those that hang off them, the Bankers, Politicians and the Bureaucrats, et al, aka "leadership". The 0.1% elite want to seperate themselves from the rest of Humanity - the "unwashed" and so it will be soon done, but their assumptions that their wealth and assets will protect them from the ravages of these times, are flawed and invalid. They will be the first to enter hate fate, as all, naked and defeated. The Network (Banking Network) is broken and unravels as we look (if we want to look, that is, but most don't). It is done, the Golden Thread has been destroyed simply by pure vanity, ego, ignorance and arrogance. And, I will write something - but not today - busy. But try this first: http://verbewarp.blogspot.com.au/2011/08/delusional-economics.html Ho hum
Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:10 | 6669828 ZerOhead
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Don't worry it's just going to be a bit Maunderish over the next 2 or 3 decades... what could go wrong right?

Low solar magnetic field strength, solar wind speed and density has an effect on upper atmospheric circulation or is strongly corelated to something else that is. This results in the jet stream flowing meridionally (north to south) rather than east to west resulting in things like this...

FROST IN BELGIUM AND ENGLAND AND GERMANY IN SUMMER

http://notrickszone.com/2015/07/10/mid-july-frost-surprises-central-euro...

Thank goodness it was light this year but it will likely be back... and much worse.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 01:17 | 6669914 o r c k
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Great red spot on Jupiter is shrinking drastically. If relevant.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 19:31 | 6673292 Radical Marijuana
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Suspicious0berservers notice that the weather on other planets in the solar system appears to be changing more than Earth's weather has, so far ... Indeed, o r c k, I believe that IS relevant!

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:09 | 6669720 Ms No
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It gets much worse than most people imagine.  They don't just run drugs they run children.  My pet peave with corruption is the organized abuse and murder of children.  If you look into it long enough there is no doubt that alphabet agencies are protecting these rings if not participating themselves.  One of the worst rings was run out of Texas, a state which had obvious connection to ex-president/ex-CIA sadistic pederast who was implicated in both Texas incidents as well as the Franklin coverup.  This SOB was likely a child serial killer.  I linked an obscure old interview about it from the 80's, which includes opinions from investigators who were stonewalled all the way through their investigations by the authorities on the Houston problem.  They were all warned to leave it alone.

Long story short they estimated that at least 100 children a year were being killed in the 80's by this trade in Texas.  When they found them dead from abvious rape and abuse injuries the local police would say it was death from exposure or some such thing.  We are dealing with some seriously sick individuals here and there is no telling how bad things will get if they gain more control.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6FKEwjPmHQ

 

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 01:41 | 6669943 JR
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There is no doubt in my mind that the abuse of babies and children adopted by gays will be ignored in post-Christian America, coupled with a plethora of fraudulent university ”research” that denies homosexuals are more prone to molest children than straight parents.

Never mind the truth that “homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses," that according to the Family Research CouncilIndividuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children.”

As for the recent 5-4 US Supreme Court ruling for gay marriage, Justice Elena Kagan’s support for the vote was apparent “based on her comments during oral argument, via NY Times”:

“Justice Elena Kagan said allowing same-sex marriage would benefit children. ‘More adopted children and more marital households, whether same-sex or other-sex, seems to be a good thing,’ she said.”

Not to be outdone, S. I. Newhouse Jr.’s October 2015 Architectural Digest cover shot features a gay male couple, Nate Berkus and Jeremiah Brent, holding their ten-weeks-old baby daughter all dressed in pink, Poppy  Brent-Berkus. Inside is editor Margaret Russell with her arms around another gay male couple, Heather and Blake Mycoskie and their baby son, Summit, during an AD video shoot at the couple’s California home.

Newhouse has for years been one of America’s most blatant promoters of homosexuality, both in AD and his semi-porn women’s mag, Glamour.

The leverage that the Jews used in Weimar Republic, which lasted from the end of 1918 to the beginning of 1933, is the same leverage they are using now in the United States to destroy the Founders’ Christian morality and love for children. The evidence of where America is headed can be found in the alien quality of pre-war Berlin, thronged and morally corrupted by its more than 200,000 Jews.

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:39 | 6669788 JR
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He called them communists. We call them terrorists today.

To downplay Communists by equating them with today’s ”terrorists” is to downplay the Bolshevism that has invaded and is destroying today’s America.

Dulles was an insider, a friend of the bankers and a spy for America – operating a network of spies.

The Communists that Dulles feared used terror, yes, but it was State terror. Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin and Mao were despots responsible for the deaths of up to 120 million of their own people. Trotsky advocated one-world socialism as do today’s Bolsheviks, aka neocons; Stalin was establishing Russian power before attempting world revolution. Hitler - not unlike Americans and the German people - was not in error to fear the Communists that already had infiltrated and were planning the invasion of Germany.

 James Srodes writes in his 2000 biography, Allen Dulles: Master of Spies:

“Allen Dulles recognized what ‘unconditional surrender’ meant to his own espionage and intelligence program. Even before the conference, he warned in a December 6, 1942, cable to Donovan: ‘Whatever may be our finally invoked policy toward a defeated Germany, our line of attack today should be to try to convince the German people that there is hope for them even in defeat, and that while there will be punishment of the guilty through legal process there will remain assurance of protection for the innocent… [I]t is important to recognize that the chief reason for any hesitation on the part of anti-Nazi and anti-Fascist elements in both occupied and unoccupied Europe to give us their undivided support is due to their fear of Communism. There is a widespread apprehension that we in America may be too distant and the English too weak to prevent Soviet Russia from taking advantage of the temporary social chaos which is likely to follow our victory over Germany and imposing its own type of domination on Europe. There is, of course, no particular enthusiasm at the prospect that Nazi domination will be exchanged for Communist Russia.'”

https://books.google.com/books?id=RIaw7GYDFmwC&source=gbs_navlinks_s

Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the career of Allen Dulles concerns his knowledge of the plot to assassinate Hitler from within the German military. The plotters kept Dulles (in Europe with the OSS) consistently briefed on developments concerning the plot. Official and establishment history says the U.S. barred Dulles from channeling support to the plotters for the assassination of Hitler July 20, 1944.

Equally disturbing was FDR's and Churchill's decision at Yalta to allow Stalin access to all of Eastern Europe.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 01:50 | 6669950 bid the soldier...
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I'd have said to downplay 'terrorists' by equating them with yesterday's communists.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 08:53 | 6670446 lesamourai
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The Bolshevik revolution and 'Communism' were all part of the same elite banker game.

 

http://www.amazon.com/Wall-Street-Bolshevik-Revolution-Capitalists/dp/19...

 

Divide and rule.  It's the oldest maxim in the book.  Dulles was just pretending to hate communism because it was his job to use that excuse to crack down on the domestic population.  No different to the way terrorism is used as an excuse for every kind of crime against the people now.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 08:55 | 6670456 lesamourai
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US Army complicity in the Bolshevik revolution:

http://rense.com/general75/armydoc.htm

Wed, 10/14/2015 - 23:58 | 6669809 wisebastard
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i hope he was smarter then the dumbass pedo nsa agent that lives across the street from...................this dude is dumb as fuck.............i mean a whole nother level of stupid..........and a whole nother level of coward ass bitch.................he is friend with max keiser and that mother fucker aint no damn different.............dudes who can pick up a book and read it repeat what it says but are still absolutly dumb as hell packed full with the gates wide open

 

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:07 | 6669823 Sorry_about_Dresden
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Anyone read Tower Of Basel by Adam Lebor?

I think a huge piece of the puzzle is Dulles' relationship with the Bank of International  Settlement from inception through WWII; laundering NAZI loot for Martin Bormann, the true ruler of NAZI Germany.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 00:11 | 6669830 GRDguy
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This is why I stick with the 1889 book The Great Red Dragon: Foreign Money Power in the United States.

No one writes or talks about WHO hired Dulles into his position (either Dulles) and financed him and his "organization."  

Even before John Foster Dulles got into office, James Warburg (son of Federal Reserve founder Paul Warbug) said to a Congressional commitee in 1950  "We shall have world government, whether or not we like it. The question is only whether world government will be achieved by consent or by conquest."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Warburg -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Warburg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_W._Foster

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Foster_Dulles -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen_Dulles

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 07:02 | 6670163 Lucky Leprachaun
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Well it won't be Mike Krieger lifting up that particular stone, that's for sure.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 01:23 | 6669920 fencejumper
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Very happy to see Amy Goodman and Democracy Now linked to on ZH. I catch DN every day without fail at democracynow.org.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 03:45 | 6670040 prymythirdeye
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She's a stooge puppet propaganda reader that should be hung by the lamp posts with every other stooge puppet in the media.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 12:01 | 6671338 fencejumper
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To make such a claim without any evidence at all one knows exactly where your third eye is.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 01:30 | 6669926 kingvaclav
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Only slightly off topic, but not much as the Clintons are CIA deep state agents. Hillary's a Monster Says Secret Service Agents‏

http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/10/14/hillary-clinton-is-a-monster-say...

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 01:47 | 6669947 bid the soldier...
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The Dulles brothers were descended from two previous Secretaries of State, and Allen....

After the election of Dwight Eisenhower in 1952 .....Dulles became the first civilian Director of Central Intelligence.

Because of his work with the OSS during the war, after it was over, Dulles was an early 'cold warrior'

Dulles is considered one of the essential creators of the modern United States intelligence system and was an indispensable guide to clandestine operations during the Cold War. He established intelligence networks worldwide to check and counter Soviet and eastern European communist advances as well as international communist movements

He didn't trust even those on his side, if they didn't take orders from him.

Documents made public in 2004 revealed that the CIA, under Dulles' orders, had broken into McCarthy's Senate office and fed disinformation to him in order to discredit him, in order to stop his investigation of communist infiltration of the CIA

After he was dismissed by JFK in 1961

On November 29, 1963, President Lyndon Baines Johnson appointed Dulles as one of seven commissioners of the Warren Commission to investigate the assassination of the U.S. President John F. Kennedy.

Sort of like Ukraine being a member of the investigative commission to determine the responsibility for the downing of MH17.

He was a patriot who had no truck with those who advocated the violent overthrow of the American government.  On the other hand he had no problem with the US overthrowing the governments of other countries.

Like Iran, Guatemala, and the CIA's failure at the Bay of Pigs.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 01:51 | 6669952 NordikAvenger
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Ex-nazis are never "ex-nazis".

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 03:58 | 6670050 Badsamm
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Need to check my notes but that family and the shit stain family running Saudi Arabia are BFF's

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 04:06 | 6670053 sam site
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You say, "[Dulles' enemies] were in the way of American interests. He called them communists."   But according to historian Eustace Mullins, the communists like Mao Zedong were being created by the Zionist Globalists and funded through Wall St, just like Hitler and Stalin.

It's amazing to find out after a lifetime of propaganda vilifying Joseph McCarthy, he was right all the time.  He correctly fingered our state department as supporting the rise of Mao the new Chinese communist leader.  In fact Mao was even made a secret honorary member of Skull and Bones.

Ironically the creation of ISIS and their support channelled through Hillary Clinton's State department parallels the creation of Mao's Communist emergence that McCarthy tried to blow the whistle on and was shamed down by journalist stooge Edward R Murrow.


 

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 04:13 | 6670057 downwiththebanks
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McCarthy was part right, but there was still a big part of the State Dep't, the China lobby, helping the KMT produce and sell opium.  Always important to control both sides!

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 04:34 | 6670063 22winmag
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When you lie down with dogs you get fleas.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 05:08 | 6670080 Parrotile
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When you lie down with the dogs, and you wake up with the fleas -

Don't get mad, get even . . . . . .

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 06:47 | 6670149 DonGenaro
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Lincoln was a psychopath. Today's USG is riddled with them.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 06:58 | 6670153 Lucky Leprachaun
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Many fingers point to his being involved in JFK's assassination. The ease with which they got away with this lead his successors to conclude - correctly - that they'd also pull off 9/11 with impunity.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 11:30 | 6671227 moneybots
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"Many fingers point to his being involved in JFK's assassination."

 

The evidence pointed at Oswald.  50 years later, it still points at Oswald.

Time to end the hoax that it was omeone other than Oswald.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 06:57 | 6670155 redwater
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With Trump professing his opinion that Snowden should be murdered for providing proof to the world of the Deep State - this is just the type of man Trump would have running the intelligence agency today.

 

The republican voters have thrown away their extremely short romance with libertarian ideals. . And are ready to go to full-retard jackboot-ocracy.

 

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 07:59 | 6670246 Fireman
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4respKAbOc

 

To really wallow in this psychopthic filth check out the inimicable James Corbett Report for the lowdown on this quintessential WASP subhuman ghoul.

 

Onward to the end of this sewer known as "western civilization"!

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 10:32 | 6670290 Dark Daze
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It's amazing how the simple needs of a president can become out of control missions for entire societies. Regan, via Stockman, was simply trying to note that production had lagged consumption and so a period was required where investment in production was increased. That was taken, and distorted into a 40 year period of trickle down economics, and war mongering with borrowed money, which of course has not only ruined the US, but the world as well. Similarly, Eisenhower simply wanted the best intelligence without having to resort to the miltary which he thoroughly distrusted. OSS had been very effective during the war and was the logical starting point for him. Alas, there are always men like the Dulles brothers, who will use the cover of a presidential need and their own evil and psychopathic personalities to hijack the policy and turn it into something far more than was ever intended. Ben Franklin wrote about the problem, but gave no solution, so we can reliably assume that defeating them will always be a full time job and more than that, that perhaps Jefferson was the most correct when he suggested a revolution every 20 years.

For me, you really need to start with the head of the serpent. That would be the UK. There is lots that needs to be done, but we can start with demanding, or forcing, the return of very single ounce of gold that has been illegally taken out of the US in the last 220 years. Of course, ending the Fed is a no brainer. If the UK refuses to comply, remove the nuclear umbrella and then if they are invaded (invevitable) DON'T save their butts, let them suffer the consequences of supporting the Rothschilds. Cancel/revoke the Virginia charter and any law or entitlement that has arisen out of it. Turning to the US, we will need to purge not only the psychopaths that have infested the government, but every person and entity that works for/pays alligiance to either Rome or the Crown. Restore the Constitution to it's original form and vigorously enforce it, which includes the instant removal of any President that breaches it's articles. Even though it may have been thought 'imperfect' it is still singularly best document I have ever found that codifies the natural rights that people are born with. Reduce the military to it's natural size, which would be whatever was necessary to support trade, nothing more. There are more than enough weapons in existence already to protect the US for the next 100 years. We can worry about the future in the future. 

There are lots more ideas that you can come by simply by reading history, which should be a mandatory subject throughout schooling, along with economics, languages, finance, etc. Make it more practical and less theoretical. Ensure the restoration of internal economy. Back the Treasury notes with gold and HONOR the obligation. 

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 08:26 | 6670336 Noplebian
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The latest news regarding the 'UN Global Goals' agenda!

More info here.......

http://beforeitsnews.com/global-unrest/2015/10/total-enslavement-the-un-...

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 08:54 | 6670451 MoHillbilly
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I really don't understand one thing, could someone explain it to me. Everyone goes on about how all the presidents were either in on it or stooges but they all have a throbbing hard on for JFK. That lightweight was as corrupt and crooked as any before or since. I know, I know, he was just about to pull the plug and expose them. Dying early really does help your career.

 

You know Elvis was getting ready to lose 60 pounds , release a double live album and win an oscar but he died before he could get to it

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 09:16 | 6670569 InjuredThales
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Nobody is more fascistic than the left you thundering moron!

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 10:17 | 6670930 Salzburg1756
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The US government has been a monster since Abe Lincoln.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 11:21 | 6671179 moneybots
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 ”I think I have studied this about as much as anyone in my generation at this point, and my final conclusion after 50 years was we have to go there, we have to look at the fact that there’s a wealth of circumstantial evidence that says not only was there, at the highest level, CIA involvement."

 

It was Oswald.  Even his own brother says so.  After 50 years, no conspiracy book writer has been able to prove it was someone else.  Everyone from the limo driver to James Files has been claimed to be the real killer.  Every group from the Mafia to the CIA has been claimed to be behind the killing of JFK.  It has been an elaborate hoax.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 19:58 | 6673315 Radical Marijuana
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moneybots, you appear to be an obtuse idiot with respect to the degree to which the real world is actually being controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals:

POLITICAL FUNDING

ENFORCING FRAUDS

That privately controlled banks get to make the public "money" supply out of nothing as debts for everyone else, while those frauds are enforced by governments, is an obvious manifestation of that general pattern of social facts. Some of the historical reasons that situation exists were due to bribery, intimidation, and assassination of those politicians that could not otherwise be bribed or intimidated, e.g., President Kennedy. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM

JFK to 911 Everything Is A Rich Man's Trick

One of the main points made in that documentary is that it was BOTH the CIA & the Mafia. Furthermore, the highest levels are ALL based upon organized crime. Social pyramid systems converge to the pyramidion people. The banksters are the biggest gangsters, and they actually set up and control the CIA, as well as work with any other organized crime gangs that will play ball with them. E.g., the banksters launder the illegal drug cartel money, etc., while the CIA became one of the biggest illegal drug smuggling entities, and so on and so forth, throughout every area one examines.

Since human beings operate as entropic pumps of environmental energy flows, civilization necessarily operates according to the principles and methods of organized crime. SINCE THAT IS THE CASE, EVERYTHING IS PUBLICLY PRESENTED PRETTY WELL AS THE OPPOSITE TO WHAT ACTUALLY EXISTS.

We are living inside of Wonderland Matrix Bizarro Worlds, where governments are the biggest forms of organized crime, controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals. They are able to do things like change hemp from being the single best plant on the planet for people, for food, fiber, fun and medicine, into becoming "marijuana that is almost as bad as murder," and then back those huge legalized lies up with legalized violence for decade after decade. ALL of the dominate established sociopolitical systems are similarly based upon backing up lies with violence, and so, pretty well ALL historical events are usually presented to the public in ways which are dishonest. Indeed, governments tend to be arrogantly dishonest in principle, about almost everything, almost all the time, since those governments developed to become covertly controlled by the best organized gangs of criminals, who were able to apply the methods of organized crime through the political processes in persistent ways, for prolonged periods of time.

Thu, 10/15/2015 - 17:56 | 6672960 Gonzogal
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Dulles was also one that knew about and approved Operation Northwoods, which was a mirror of what did take place on 9/11

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 01:13 | 6678319 Sorry_about_Dresden
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Dulles spent from 1919, during and after Versailles,  through the end of the WWII in Switzerland laundering looted gold through the Bank of International Settlement and making patent arrangements with I.G.Farben,Ethyl Corp.  and Standard Oil. He was lawyer involved in arranging gold transfers to enable the Germans to overrun Poland, Western & Northern Europe. 

Once Bormann got the Czech gold reserves the NAZIs could finance Poland and then France.

Wars are not accidents. Wars are planned and executed.

Dulles worked for Brown Brothers Harriman. Averrel Harriman became the Russian Ambassador and intimately involved with meetings of the big 3.

They even stalled Operation  Market Garden to give Bormann more time to transfer assets to South America where they settled and lived where their spawn grow stronger.

Dulles was laundering NAZI gold that would end up paying for guns and ammo for Germans to shoot at our boys in landng craft on Omaha Beach in Normandy.

Allen Dulles was a psychopath who facilitated the desruction of 60 million people!

 

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