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US Arming Of Kurdish Rebels In Syria Is "Unacceptable", Turkey Warns
Back in August, we suggested that the so-called “ISIS-free” zone proposed by the US and Turkey in the wake of the two countries’ agreement to work together in the “fight” against “terror” was perhaps the most absurd foreign policy outcome in Washington’s history.
As a reminder, here’s a map which shows the target area:
One thing you’ll notice there is that the “anti-ISIS” zone is surrounded to the east and west by YPG forces who, as WSJ noted a few months back, “have proved to be the most effective ground force fighting Islamic State.”
The problem - if you’re Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan anyway - is that the YPG are Kurds and if you’re Ankara, that’s no good because the whole reason you let the US fly sorties from Incirlik in the first place was so that you could wage war on the Kurdish PKK in Turkey.
For anyone who might still be unaware, the deal between Ankara and Washington was basically that the US gets to use a key Turkish air base while Erdogan gets to wage war against his political foes with NATO’s blessing (in the name of fighting “terror” of course) as long as Turkey occasionally bombed ISIS too.
Of course the deal was silly in and of itself because Turkey has long been accused of turning a blind eye to ISIS (at best) and indeed, the PKK suggests Ankara has worked directly with Islamic State to execute false flag attacks ahead of new elections next month.
In any event, the idea of the “anti-ISIS” zone is nothing short of a joke for two reasons, i) neither Turkey nor the US are completely committed to fighting ISIS because after all, both governments want to keep the Assad regime on its heels, and ii) as you can see from the map, the “anti-ISIS” zone would have probably been “anti-ISIS” in short order anyway, if the YPG had just been allowed to continue their push. Instead, the US - which had previously assisted YPG with airstrikes, was convinced by Turkey to actually keep YPG from advancing into the area. In other words, the US and Turkey actually prevented anti-ISIS fighters from fighting in the anti-ISIS zone. And all because Erdogan needs to win an election.
Well now, in the face of Russia and Iran’s Syrian offensive against Assad’s enemies, the US and its “coalition” partner Turkey are at odds over weapons shipments to YPG. Here’s Bloomberg:
- Turkey summoned U.S. ambassador, told him that cooperation w/ PKK-linked groups in Syria is unacceptable, Interim PM Ahmet Davutoglu says at press conference in Istanbul.
- “As allied countries wouldn’t tolerate arms shipments to groups affiliated with al-Qaeda, Turkey definitely can’t accept weapons aid to groups linked to PKK”
- No one can guarantee that those weapons won’t fall in hands of PKK and used against Turkey tomorrow
- PKK members fleeing Turkish airstrikes in Iraq are going into Syria; PYD has organic links to PKK
A couple of things there. First, the idea that "allied countries wouldn't tolerate arms shipments to groups affiliated with al-Qaeda" is completely ridiculous, because the West has specifically armed those groups in the past. Second, the fact that a US ally has the nerve to say that "no one can guarantee those weapons won’t fall into the [wrong] hands" two days after the US paradropped 50 tons of ammo into the desert on pallets is outright hilarious.
This also means that the US - if it intends to appease Turkey - is running out of options. If it can't arm or assist the YPG without jeopardizing access to Incirlik, and if it can't arm and train more rebel groups because, well, because Washington is just terrible at getting it right, then it's not clear what options are left besides paradropping weapons to the Free Syrian Army. This also just goes to show how absolutely convoluted the West's strategy has become here which in turn underscores why Moscow and Iran's strategy has apparently been so effective: it's a lot easier to just say "we're going to war with anyone and everyone fighting Assad than it is to try to covertly usurp a government by playing various ethnic groups off each other and exploiting sectarian divides.
Finally, to add insult to injury, Russia and Iran are now preparing a major offensive to retake Aleppo, which might as well be in the "anti-ISIS" zone."
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the only group the US is disarming is that group of god fearing Americans who are quickly coming to the realization that they are the enemy
lol.
The US goes from arming ISIS to arming the Kurds, who are now supposed to overthrow Assad, but leave the Turks alone?
GTFO! Ankara is about to lose its mind.
Erdogan, you have been given your ultimatum. Leave the Kurds alone and attack IS with gusto, or the bombing gets pinned on you!
Fat chance. With the mangina Choomboy in the WH.
They hate us for our freedom or at least whats left of it
Well dear Turkey, I guess you are just going to have to try harder to accept it.
-MIC
Is Erdgoan talking about the Kurdish People's Liberation Front ... or ... the People's Popular Front of Kurdistan ... or ... the Popular Kurdish People's Front?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb_qHP7VaZE
Classic!
This is a complicated fucking situation. We need John McCain to rise to the occasion and offer a common sense solution that we can all get behind.
:)
Im surprized Russia didnt think of this first
Tell Asad to suck up the loss of territory in the north- it doessnt interfere with the pipeline anyway- then you can poke Turkey, and have a reliable determined ally against demented Islamics.
The Iranian general would have objected i guess...
lols.....Russia actually already did this! Putin has agreement with Kurds that they will not attack Assad's army and that after ISIS is destroyed, everyone will try to find a political solution. Kurds agreed because they hate ISIS and their sponsor Turkey more than Assad. Kurds are taking arms from USA, but are not controlled by USA (though USA may think so). Kurds also said that they are seeking “self-administration, not autonomy in Syria,” along the lines of the Kurdistan Regional Government in Iraq. “We want to stay in Syria with our culture and our language”. The system desired by Syrian Kurds can be compared to cantons in Switzerland.
Syrian Kurds also view Russian intervention as a means by which to stop Turkey from attacking them in Syria. Salih Muslim believes that the Russians will not allow that to happen, not so much to defend Kurds but to defend Syria’s border. “Russia has a joint defense agreement with Syria,” he said. “They will prevent Turkish intervention not to defend us [Kurds] but to defend Syria’s border.”
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"...US Arming Of Kurdish Rebels In Syria Is "Unacceptable", Turkey Warns..."
Turkish arming of ISIS Rebels in Syria Is "Unacceptable", Russia Warns.
Of course Erdogan is filling his Depends. The U.S. and Israel are starting to manufacture the Kurdish uprising that will tear Turkey apart and establish a U.S.-Israeli puppet Kurdish state. The upcoming elections are the perfect opportunity. Erdogan is going to lose more power, so it's easy to push that psychopath over the edge. CIA and Mossad have been stirring up Turkish Nazis that want a little Kurdish ethnic cleansing (hey - it worked on the Armenians and Assyrians). The PKK actually has plenty of small arms and ammo, but not anywhere near enough for a full-blown revolution in Turkey. The U.S. is never going to give them enough to cause any real damage because then they might kick the CIA and Mossad out of the Iraqi Kurdish government. If the U.S. is involved at all, the Turkish uprising will simply be a Kurdish meat-grinder until some phoney U.N.-brokered cease-fire creates some stupid-assed buffer zones. That's a favorite land-stealing technique of Israel. As long as Israel has a relatively secure corridor through a powerless state to attack Iran (and plenty of discounted oil to steal from the Kurds and Iran) then they're happy.
Exactly Newsboy.. Plus Turkeys Prime minster has been exposed with 8 Swiss accounts? No wonder after the bombing over the weekend PM of Turkey blocked the twitter flow of it's citizens..Not to mention he pissed off Putin,, DEAD MAN WALKING!!!
Fucking Turks, getting their way since the Cold War, where (& their natural hostility to Russia) geography gave them an edge.
Kurdistan needs to come into being. The Kurds were the astrologer-wise men of the Bible's Christmas story.
And they were nearly right. Ralphie did almost shoot his eye out.
The Kurds have been one of the few fairly consistent allies the U.S. has had in that region of the world for quite some time now and it seems that every ten minutes, we fuck them over. Which proves, yet again, that the U.S. has no concept when it comes to the Middle East.
I can foresee a day of reckoning and it's in the not-too-distant future, where just about everyone in the MENA is going to suddenly realize, all at the same time, that the U.S. has played them for at least 50 years, and I think the results are going to be breathtakingly bad for U.S. interests in that part of the world.
It's already happening. Why do you think Russia has entered the picture now? Putin is playing chess while the USSA's 'strategists' are playing Tiddly-Winks.
"The Kurds have been one of the few fairly consistent allies the U.S. has"
Let me rephrase that. You mean the Kurds are all in on the empire to the same degree as the Brits, the Aussies and the Canuks. Kurds are likely to get shafted one again for their stupidity. But as with all other cultures being genocided by tha anglo-zionist elites the Kurds will be getting up the ass for a long time to come.
"The US goes from arming ISIS to arming the Kurds, who are now supposed to overthrow Assad"
...who join the moderate terrorists in order to later join ISIS to be all eventually bombed by Russia.
Mission accomplished.
Now, that you wrote it out, this sounds a lot like dog chasing his own tail...funny image.
This is becoming incestuous. We fuck the enemy of my enemy, of your enemy that is the enemy of....AHHH FUCK...lost it.
almost makes me want to subscribe to the Weekly Standard for comic relief... Bill Kristol must have his zio-panties in a bunch right about now...
A smug, disgusting, hypocritical armchair warrior whose only purpose in life is to get America to fight and pay for Israel's wars.
We have met the Enemy.
The Enemy is Us.
Not quite. A small minority of "us" who have seized control of every Western country's commanding heights.
Just because newspaper and television station news station editors have orders not to publish negative stories about the Nazi type government we have here now in the United States doesn't mean many Americans don't already know the score. Obama's supporting rape-murdering monsters in the Middle East is no surprise if you look at his fabricated background.
i was talking to the lawn guy yesterday as he patiently explained fractional reserve banking to
me.He got quite irate about 'them' creating money from thin air.
If even lawn jockeys are waking up its a sign of something.I played dumb, always the best course.
You learn much more by listening than talking, and hiding in plain sight is my motto.
That is excellent and significant news. Brings to mind old Joe Kennedy's shoe-shine boy.
And yet, I constantly run across people, practically 99% of them that have no clue as to what the Fed Res is and what it does.
Comment of the Year.
Nailed it, grateful. +100
Truth^^^^^. Now the question is, when does something get done about it..., if ever?
Until moron white American males wake up and turn off Trayvon ball from the NFL, NCAA and NBA then little will change, I see in Dallas one of those Trayvon ball playing heroes from Texas A&M hacked to death a white guy jogging.
The idiots cheer on the thugs like little sissies. The nice thing about the Russians is they are serious people who would not cheer on Trayvon's engaged in white genocide. Americans are dumb as dirt.
The Nobel Prize Winner needs someone to fight Russians and Iranians and Syrians in Syria. Too bad for Turkey that Kurdish fighters will easily cross into Turkey and ask for their own homeland. It is much-deserved karma for Turkey for supporting ISIS in Syria. Turkey is fucked for decades and is almost a failed state now.
Turkey had always been at war with Syria.
The following examples show the extent of Turkish involvement in the war on Syria:
–Turkey hosts the Political and Military Headquarters of the armed opposition. Most of the political leaders are former Syrians who have not lived there for decades.
–Turkey provides home base for armed opposition leaders. As quoted in the Vice News video “Syria: Wolves of the Valley”: “Most of the commanders actually live in Turkey and commute in to the fighting when necessary.”
–Turkey’s intelligence agency MIT has provided its own trucks for shipping huge quantities of weapons and ammunition to Syrian armed opposition groups. According to court testimony, they made at least 2,000 trips to Syria.
–Turkey is suspected of supplying the chemical weapons used in Ghouta in August 2013 as reported by Seymour Hersh here. In May 2013, Nusra fighters were arrested in possession of sarin but quickly and quietly released by Turkish authorities.
–Turkey’s foreign minister, top spy chief and senior military official were secretly recorded plotting an incident to justify Turkish military strikes against Syria. A sensational recording of the meeting was publicized, exposing the plot in advance and likely preventing it from proceeding.
–Turkey has provided direct aid and support to attacking insurgents. When insurgents attacked Kassab Syria on the border in spring 2014, Turkey provided backup military support and ambulances for injured fighters. Turkey shot down a Syrian jet fighter that was attacking the invading insurgents. The plane landed 7 kilometers inside Syrian territory, suggesting that Turkish claims it was in Turkish air space are likely untrue.
–Turkey has recently increased its coordination with Saudi Arabia and Qatar.
more at:
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/06/25/turkeys-troubling-war-on-syria/
Stick a fork in Turkey. Erdogan was dealt overall a better hand than Vlad; still managed to piss everyone off and ruin it. Turkish Stream is parked for the moment (how he managed to f**k that one up, I'll never know), Kurdish genie is not going back into the lamp, no way no how, he's lost the parliamentary majority, likely to do poorly in the upcoming elections - the list goes on. What a mug.
Erdogan's religious extremism is bringing civil war and misery to his formerly secular state that Ataturk strove so hard to create.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mustafa_Kemal_Atat%C3%BCrk
I feel sorry for the Turkish people. More psychopathic leaders. Things in Europe were like heaven a year ago compared to now thanks to the ZWO and NeoCon/NeoLibs.
NWO/ZWO/banksters/IMF/MIC making lives misery in North America, South America, Middle East and Europe.
"Turkey is fucked for decades and is almost a failed state now."
I sure hope so. Nobody deserves it more.
The average Turk is the unwitting victim of mobster Erdogan and his intelligence agency gangsters, who are being conned by bigger mobsters: the U.S. and Israel.
Turkish citizens have been sold the same lie at U.S. citizens: Go out and vote because if you vote for the right person, then everything will be fixed. The reason things are so bad now is because you voted for the wrong person last time.
Voting is like taking money from a mentally disabled person with a game of three-card monte, "...Ohhhh... You almost WON! C'mon - play again... You could win everything back and be rich! What? No more money? How about your shoes - want to bet them?..."
LMFAO. How many free F-16s the Masters of the Universe gonna have to throw at Turkey to make the pain stop.
Watching Europe commit cultural suicide pains me, but watching NATO eat itself alive is pure pleasure. Europe stops at the Aegean. Anyone who insists otherwise is a buffoon and a liar. Turks are great people, but theyr'e not Europe. End of story. Full stop.
Football is used to great effect to break down European cohesion. As well as wall-to-wall 'anti-racism' brainwashing at every match the European football authorities have now included Azerbaijan, Armenia and even Kazakstan as part of 'the European Footballing Family'.
LL yes but you left out Israel. Israel s part of Euro football. Maybe the only place they acknoledge there real status as European, colonial occupiers.
Now sit back and watch Erdogan completely lose his shit. That will learn him not to tangle with the big boys. My heart goes out to all the folks who will bear the brunt of that intellectual midget's temper tantrum; there's one coming, and soon.
The wheels on the bus go round and round,
round and round,
round and round.
The wheels on the bus go round and round,
all through the town.
The (fiat) money on the bus goes, Clink, clink, clink;
Clink, clink, clink;
Clink, clink, clink.
The money on the bus goes, Clink, clink, clink,
all through the town.
The Driver on the bus says "Move on back(nothing to see here),
move on back, move on back;"
The Driver on the bus says "Move on back",
all through the town.
The baby(isreal) on the bus says "Wah, wah, wah;
Wah, wah, wah;
Wah, wah, wah".
The baby on the bus says "Wah, wah, wah",
all through the town.
I would laugh my ass off, if the pallets would still lay around and nobody picked them up. Too many weapons and ammo, but not enough humans that want to die a horrible death in the desert.
West has no strategy. This all looks, smells and sounds like pure DESPERATION!
Time to airdrop the Oatmeal Muffins
Actually, desperation would be just saying that you paradropped 50 tons of ammo without actually dropping anything.
The numbers supplied in the story have some information value.
50 tons and 112 pallets are specfically mentioned.
The 463L Master Pallet is the standard military pallet, which can hold 8 stacked normal sized pallets. So, 112 regular pallets are contained in 14 (fourteen) 463L pallets. This is about the normal cargo load for an airdrop. If there are only 14 pallets, the math works out to over 7000 lbs per 463L pallet and well within load capacity specs. Otherwise, 112 463L pallets would weigh less than 1000 lbs. This would be extremely light and could float off course dozens of miles to allah-knows-where.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsVaFpXgCfU
Again, if the current story is accurate, this seems to be about half of the amount usually airdropped in the past.
That video is of a remote-controlled, steerable square cargo parachute, Librarian. It's curious how THAT one managed to go off course if they did a bulk drop where most of the pallets had standard cargo parachutes that did land where they wanted.
I'm not sure what your saying about the 112 pallets being light at 1000 lbs. - this seems pretty typical for a bulk cargo drop.
It's more likely that that 14 military spec pallets (each holding 8 civilian-sized pallets) each were dropped. (14x8=112)
If you have a military spec pallet rated for up to 10,000 lbs it would make little sense to use only 10% of that capacity.
Something so light would also be incredibly difficult to drop with any targetting precision, or so I have been told.
Back in the day, I never saw them use anything nearly that big for air-dropping small items. For just plain roll-on, roll-off cargo, (non-air-dropped) they always WOULD use the full-sized aluminum pallets with everything netted down.
For air drops, all the small bulk items went on individual starndard-sized shipping pallets (just a flat hunk of plywood) with single chutes. They certainly could drop the full-size pallets - they just never did except when dropping something that big to begin with (big piece of equipment, vehicle, etc.). Something like cans of ammo or crates of weapons would go on a single standard-sized pallets. When they practiced high-altitude airdrops (10,000 ft. IIRC), they would strap four fifty-five gallon drums of water on a wooden pallet and roll dozens of those out the back. This would have been back in the stretch C-141s and C-130s. Maybe they do something different on C-17s nowadays.
[edit] Guess not - here's a C-17 drop in Afghanistan with what I'm calling a standard-sized pallet:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBhX1a9nDB0
and another from a C-130J: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgqPBkrkwcA
Still, it's been a few years for me. The C-130s were coal-powered back then.
Stupid Kurds, like Charlie Brown and the football. They were sure THIS time they would get their own country
It's like someone took Monopoly, Risk, Diplomacy, Clue, Sorry and Candy Land, mixed them all together and called it US policy.
More like a steaming pile on top of 52 (card) pick up.
Someone needs to show the Turks the Who Supports Whom matrix, stat.
You can't make this shit up. If the Simpsons writers ever wrote a political satire they couldn't concoct a clusterfuck of this magnitude. You have to storyboard this shit to appreciate how fucked-up it really is.
LMFAO. I thought WWIII would be all doom and gloom, but now I'm out and beyond any fucking recall to active duty ever again I just might enjoy this one.
They will take anyone with a pulse.
Damn! Is there any place in the world the U.S.S.A isn't trying to fuck up or overthrow?
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Antarctica...perhaps.
even some of those penguins are moderate looking
"Look". that one has a black suit and tried to eat its own egg!
Israel?
Turkey = The ultimate, "between a rock and a hard place."
The hypocrisy of USA is just totally pathetic.............. It leaves me speechless
How NOT to influence people and make friends.
Turks have made enemies of their neighbors Armenia and Greece. They’ve strained their relations with Israel. They’ve restarted their periodic ethnic cleansing of the Kurds.
They’re making veiled threats to Russia (getting their gas, etc. elsewhere)…and now are making threats to the US.
Why does the world tolerate this shitty country? Dismember Turkey, giving it’s lands to Armenia, Greece, and a new viable Kurdistan. Do the world a favor and get rid of this zit on civilizations ass.
Their neighbour to the North HATES them - Bulgaria. And not without reason. If you look into the history between the two countries, you want to throw up and wish the Turks all Hell that they can get.
The latest "Erdogan-Shit-Trick" is to send hundreds of Buses up North - whenever Bulgaria has elections - and have Turks (that claim to be Bulgarians) vote for the Pro-Turkish Party that they have in Parliament. I've been to the South of Bulgaria and also Northern Turkey, these folks do not speak Bulgarian. They look like Turks, they talk like Turks and they even smell like Turks!
FUCK ERDOGAN!
Turkey and the Turks are cool. Its Erdogan who is too big for his boots. I hope they get shot of him at the next election. He use to have good relations with Assad when he first became PM. Now the fool wants to become a Turkish Caliphate. Complete arse.
While it is true that there are good, honesty, just people in turkey; your conclusion is wrong...it is not just Erdogan. Hitler did not single-handedly commit holocaust and murder millions of Europeans on the battlefiled. It took many, many willing and all too eager Germans who shared in his views and hatred.
So too with Turkey! Erdogan cannot single-handedly slaughter the Kurds…it takes all those turks who are all too willing to ethnically cleans anyone different from them. What Erdogan is doing is drawing on the hatred and brutality that is pervasive in their culture, since the turn of the century and their Genocidal history. Unfortunately, their list of victims is not only limited to the Armenians, Greeks, Assyrians, and Kurds, but it also includes moderate, good, just Turks.
Everyone suffers when there is pervasive hate, bigotry, and violence in society. No one individual commits crimes against humanity by themselves; there are many millions with blood on their hands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L83UPhQJs0
"i know who i am"
"2 late johny murica"
the young lady in the clip is cosbys daughter, ever wondered what made here do that film
Team America: World Asshole
Russia has made clear the mission is to ensure the territorial integrity of Syria. There is as well the Hatay province to the North West of Syria which was taken by Turkey decades ago to return to Syria also. That would be suitable compensation.
Hatay is where Russian jets cross into Turkey. Russian message to Istanbul = it is not Turkey. By UN it is not, Russians are right
Me at the Shrink's: "Dunno Doc... some days it seems like ZIO-Caliphate USSA is arming EVERY mo-fo on the planet..."
Dr Phill Popper: "Thats coz IT FCUKIN' IS you dumb fcuk!!! Now get outta here and stop wastin' my time - freekin' moron!!! Next!"
Except they want to disarm Constitutional loving Americans, maybe to take from one to give to the other. Man, is this country fucked up!!!
Nice. Except the bit about the "Free Syrian Army". Russians tried to contact them but it seems like they're nowhere to be found (In Germany maybe?)
Screw Erdogan and his Ottoman Empire ambitions.
Clownbama thinks he is the king of NATO too. His mindset is so infantile. You can see it. He thinks that the office of the Presidency imbues him immediate authority over the whole planet, requiring no work at all, like some kind of leadership welfare program. And that he can do whatever thing he wants with no consquences. I don't even know how NATO has been able to remain in existance since his Ukraine/Russia boondoggle. And now Turkey is invading Europe by emptying their Syria refugee camps while Obama cheers...and at the same time arms people they are trying to exterminate. Why does anyone listen to this Clownbama's nonsense?
Well, (stomping foot), he did win the Nobel Peace Prize!
(Sooooo, where's the youtube video of the faggot telling everyone to leave Britiney alone, or in this case Obombya.)
Well its not easy being cheesy.
Do you have any idea how hard it is to pull off being a back stabbing cocksucker and still claim the moral high ground?
Jeez, we already fucked over the Kurds twice in the last 20 years.... so now we're gonna build 'em up again just to pull the rug out from underneath them a third time?
They must be gullible people.
Uncle Sam and Aunt Lucy play football with Charlie Brown People.
We'll let you kick it this time. Oh c'mon, we wouldn't do that again. Trust us.
By the time the owners of the US are finished, the word "American" is going to be synonymous with "Nazi".
Maybe official US policy should be to play-hide-out-in-the-open-and-go-seek with 50 tonnes of US taxpayer's ammo. Would that be OK with Turkey?
Isn't Erdogan one of Obama's big budies, apparently the first person Obama phoned when he won his second term or was it his first.
And what is Putin's stance on Kurds, in Syria, in Turkey, in Iraq? in Iran?
Urgent wall to wall coverage of breaking news dominating CNN today !! Somebody stabbed in Jerusalem and a basketball player was found unconscious in a brothel. NO other NEWS to report.
Fuck Turkey. Those assholes have been shitting on the Kurds for a long time.
If anyone in the Middle East deserves a place to call home, it's the Kurds. They need land and they need to be free from the Ottoman assholes in Turkey.
Hold It! It’s time to piss-test the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Remember, Obama purged the military Staff.
I am sure they still teach military tactics and operations at West Point and any cadet will tell you that you need a supply line and lots of money to sustain a war.
This reminds me of the CIA Bay of Pigs invasion with American supply ships off-shore and overnight the invasion was recognized as an American invasion with American CIA money and the mercenary “freedom fighters” surrendered. Ha. Ha. Ha.
Militarily, Russia is kicking American CIA mercenary paid and supplied Islamic State terrorist ass and their supply line from the USA is cut off. Ha. Ha. Ha.
Come on Obama, when will you drop another 50 tons of supplies out in the desert? Ha. Ha. Ha.
I wonder how many American CIA causalities there have been from the Russian bombings. No one ever talks about that. Ha. Ha. Ha.
In a moving display of solidarity and international friendship, U.S. Defense Secretary Ash Carter said that the United States will not cooperate with Russia in the fight against ISIS and other terrorist groups. According to Carter, the U.S. is still deeply butthurt about Russia targeting friendly, CIA-trained yoga instructors operating in Syria.
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/chronically-butthurt-us-refuses-he...
Thnx giving is comming, amerikans are reddy for turkeys
The Russians build great aircraft while we piss away a fortune on the F-35?
The French screw over their own shipbuilding industry by refusing to deliver the
completed LHA type "Mistrals" to Russia.A broken contract,not good for future business.
The Russians have shown what a professional airpower operation looks like.
The Bad guys can hole up in the cities and be starved / bombed out ,or take to the
roads and become a target.They cannot be completely resupplied by air drops and
I think everyone knows this.They must have the land bridge which is now open to
interdiction.I give them weeks if not days...
The US military must be impressed.Anyone who has a doubt about the outcome has never
been on the receiving end of a Russian MLRS salvo.Quod Erat Demonstratum....
TOW missles don't work so well when a thick smokescreen exists.The Russkies must know this.
Turkey or Erdogan has been playing both sides (the US and Russia) against the middle for most of this century.
It wasn't of great import until the CIA sponsored (provoked) the Syrian protests and rebellion in 2011. Did the US expect more assistance from Turkey in their attempt to bring down Assad? Probably.
It wasn't till a few weeks ago that Turkey gave the US coalition permission to use Incirlik air base. Then there was the politics of NATO's Patriot missiles:
Then last year the CIA released tapes embarrassing to Erdogan just before the national elections.
While Erdogan has a problem with Russia's support of Assad, it has a much greater problem with the US and its attempt to cause a regime change in Turkey?
And this, of course, begs the question: was the US responsible for the recent Ankara bombings?
Erdogan pushing Kurds and Russians into each others arms:http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/erdogan-pushing-kurds-and-russians-each-others-arms/ri10501
Satan America is the source of all terrorism in the world.
America & Europe have become rabid dogs
Need to put these to sleep