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Artist's Impression Of Who (Really) Won The Democrat's Debate?
The verdict is in from Tuesday night’s Democratic presidential debates: Bernie Sanders’ message influenced viewers by leaps and bounds over the next most discussed candidate, Hillary Clinton.
Unless, of course, as TheAntiMedia.org's Claire Bernish rightly rages, you prefer the convenient swill of pre-planned, pre-packaged, predictable corporate media propaganda that unanimously sang Clinton’s praises while completely ignoring one essential thing - you know, reality.
Regardless of your opinion of the candidates, or politics for that matter, elections amount to a fascinating study in propaganda — and though parsing engineered narrative from fact usually requires at least a modicum of effort, the case of Hillary’s resounding ‘ghost victory’ wins the Captain Obvious Propaganda Lifetime Achievement Award.
First, a look at corporate media’s pundits, headlines, and a few tidbits of content whose obsequious drivel seems more comic fodder than serious political commentary.
Vox: Hillary Clinton silenced her critics
“This is the Hillary Clinton that Democrats have been waiting for. The most important aspect of Clinton’s performance though, wasn’t whether she won — she did — but how she connected to progressive Democrats […] Perhaps it took a little competition, but the passion Clinton sometimes lacks on the campaign trail was in full force Tuesday night. She was having fun.”
The New York Times: Who Won and Lost the Democratic Debate? The Web Has Its Say
“Bloggers, commentators and the Twitterati quickly weighed in on the first Democratic debate, scoring the winners and losers. Hillary Rodham Clinton was the clear victor, according to the opinion shapers in the political world (even conservative commentators).”
NPR: Clinton Takes First Steps To Dispel Doubts About Candidacy
“Hillary Clinton, the candidate with the most to lose, may have come away having gained the most. [Clinton performed] more ably than in any other major media appearance since her best debates and speeches in 2008 […] At times, she even appeared to be enjoying herself.”
The Guardian: Hillary Clinton won the Democratic debate, simply by saying ‘no’
“All debate wins come down to some form of managed expectations: campaigns hint to reporters what their goals are, topically; reporters lecture campaigns on what those goals should be; and the candidate who more effectively conveys the most things in the overlap of that Venn diagram then gets called the winner until the next week’s polls.
But if you need to pick a winner from Tuesday night’s Democratic debate, Hillary Clinton will do.”
‘I was going to have Death by Chocolate, but mincemeat will do’ — are they serious?
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TheAntiMedia.org's Claire Bernish goes on...
Typical of most major headlines, a less discerning individual might imagine Clinton’s debate appearance as a light-hearted, self-assured popularity coup that made other candidates’ presence a mere footnote on the evening — because that’s precisely what this flood of not-so-deftly-crafted punditry begs of you. And what it lacks in subtlety, it doesn’t bother to make up for with accuracy, either.
In fact, according to viewer polls during and immediately following Tuesday’s debate, Bernie Sanders not only stole the show, he might as well have filled out the change-of-address card for 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue post-haste.
A liveblog poll conducted of Facebook by U.S.News indisputably showed Sanders so far ahead that if it were the only statistic in consideration, you’d wonder if the other candidates even bothered showing up: fully 82% — 1,877 people of 2,297 who participated — declared Sanders the Democratic debate ‘winner.’
Twitter experienced similar indications of a landslide popularity win for the self-described Democratic-Socialist, who received 407,000 mentions Tuesday night — more than the total mentions for all other candidates lumped together. Social media appeared swept off its feet as 42,730 more people followed Sanders on Twitter (compared to Clinton’s 25,475 new fans) — even more to the point, though mentions of Hillary Clinton were positive 56% of the time, Sanders garnered favorable comments 69% of the times his name came up.
At the peak of debate mentions around 7 pm, Sanders name or Twitter handle appeared 12,000 times per minute to Clinton’s 8,300. The Independent from Vermont also claimed the most retweets of the night, 12,000, for his passing comment, “The American people are sick of hearing about your damn emails,” directed at Clinton.
Things are not always how they appear - and corporate media pushing Hillary Clinton as Tuesday’s Democratic debate standout might be propaganda’s equivalent to throwing bologna against a wall and hoping it will stick. Maybe if enough people headline-share this article, propaganda cunningly seems to consistently think, no one will notice it’s bullshit.
But plenty of us notice. Indeed, more people notice the lies every day.
On a final note, for all the talk of winners and losers, arguably the worst loser of the night is perhaps the most pressing current issue in foreign policy: Syria. With just seven total mentions by the candidates throughout the debate, the tumult in Syria didn’t even come close to Americans and their guns — a topic that came up 20 times among them.
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Bernie fumbled. Repeatedly.
Does anyone still watch MSM TV?
Intersting spin cycle. Couple this with the "news" that there likely will not be any prosecution for HRC's emails and this strongly suggests that a deal has been cut behind the scenes. Obama apparently had HRC's nuts in a vise. Wonder what he got as a quid pro quo?
I didn't watch the debate, but I don't understand how Bernie could have "won" so easily in people's minds when he basically face-planted into Hillary's Ass when he declared that we should stop talking about Hillary's e-mail. That was a pussy thing to say.
He's there to defend and support hillery. not to win the election. he's a prop. a plant. hillary is the DNC candidate. she has been for the last 10 years. you don't have a choice in the matter.
That makes sense. A competitor for the best public trough job in the country does not help his opponent duriing the race. Politics is savage, Bernie would sacrifice his wife and kids to win as would any pol.
Sanders is the champion of the FSA. Only freeloaders and idiots support him, and they deserve to be ignored.
We already have a FSA, but it's not the one you're thinking of. This FSA does not just get an iPhone: they get literally tens of billions in free handouts. Who are they? Lockheed Martin, Exxon, Monsanto, Bridgewater, Blue Shield, AT&T, the Beltway, and JP Morgan.
Socialism? Bernie Sanders? We already *have* socialism...but sorry to tell you it's not the kind for you and me. That's what Bernie's raving about.
The FSA = Military Industrial Complex? Prison Industrial Complex? NSA Industrial Complex? The Walmarts expecting taxpayers to foot the bill for foodstamps to supplement their lower than minimum wage? Police state welfare queens with their hands out for tanks and assault vehicles for their small town PD? Mega corporations that want to consume massive quantities of infrastructure for free with no taxes?
Bernie will put his fucking boots to the FSA!
Bernie handed Hillary the Nomination Crown when he said he was tired of hearing about the emails.
Hillary won.
And will win the nomination unless the FBI indicts her. Which now seems unlikely.
Biden has no chance...
I don't want to hear about sHitlery's emails either unless they're aggressively prosecuting her for her crimes.
Unless she's swinging from a lamppost or her head's rolling down the aisle away from the guillotine then what's the point?
Bernnie was just being a gentleman when he's actually telling the FBI to charge her already.
For someone running against Hillary, it was incredibly stupid of Bernie to deflect her email issue unless he wants Hillary to win. He rarely criticizes her. But I think he really does want to win; but he lives in kind of a dark world where he can't see what working Americans really believe. If he gets the nomination, he'll get fewer votes than McGovern.
It’s the kids who are swarming the social media for Sanders. Salon just loves Bernie. They want this communism, this free stuff, and for the rest of us to pay for it. Bernie thinks if he can get enough of them to win the primary, then he can back off of the socialism during the general election where he wouldn’t be able to sell this stuff.
Hillary, in order to defeat him in the primaries, is trying to be as far left as he is…because he’s the one who’s drawing the big crowds. The media wants Hillary and their message now is that the big loser is Biden because Hillary is back on the rise.
The media already is showing Hillary catching up with Bernie in New Hampshire.
It is sickening to watch these loons and psychos fawn all over each other.
You would think Sanders would know that the FBI is still conducting an investigation, and to avoid making comments like that. He's a fuckan stooge.
Alea, perceptive all of this has been about putting Hillbill into obamas box. This will be Obama's 3rd term via blackmail
MSM TV is all bullshit and lies written by the CIA.
Yes, the CIA pretty much owns every last one of them, down to the gossip mongers and TV critics. But people are noticing, more and more. Just the conversations I've had in the last week, there really aren't a lot of people who are buying this shit anymore. The question is what it's actually going to take to make anybody do anything about it.
Cant stomach it, canceled cable. I refuse to fund that crap. Internet content is more informative, while it lasts. They are working on that in congress right now.
Push coming to shove wrt first amendment.
Edit: was paying over 100/mo, not that that was painful. Paying for bs content was!
did away with cable 5 years ago. why would i pay $50 or more a month to be propagandized? I can propagandize myself for free.
I did the same. Even after only a few months cable-free, I was surprised how disgusted I was when I did see the occasional airport cnn broadcast.
Kudos and mad props to you two for ditching the bernays-o-vision.
We kicked the douche dish to the curb almost five years ago as well.
Come February, I will take this years' cable bill savings and purchase one more ounce of gold for the bottom of the lake.
Why should I have to PAY to have filthy advertising, propaganda galore, and to see those mud sharkardasians on their moral low road?
+1 for mudshark reference, lol
Also, ditched cable many years ago. I wouldn't even know who these media assholes were, if they weren't mentioned on sites like this.
MINE $50 .... try $300
Yeah, but Hillary's campaign was given the question in advance. I'll lay $20 real cash money on it. She's not that smooth and the immidiate deafening chant of "Hillary won!" starting instantly after the debate was over.... no fucking way. Pre-planned and pre-packaged, indeed. That was a fucking rail-roading if I've ever seen one.
I think the whole thing was choreographed and staged. There is no way Bernie didn't know what he was doing when he gave her a pass on the email server. No way he was serious about running and simply give the ball to the other team.
Maybe not.
By saying let's not hear about the emails, he's bringing it back up without appearing to be attacking a party member. The voters get a reminder, and he gets to sound presidential. Smooth.
Let's see how it goes. Stil silly season with over a year to go.
^^^ Nailed it. This is all theater. It's been worked out in advance, maybe even Sanders defense of the email bullshit. I'm still not sure Sanders isn't going to roll over for her ultimately, that he's controlled opposition.
But the fix is clearly in for her and there are those even inside the DNC who don't like it -- just witness the slapdown going on between the three top dogs.
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-16/insurrection-erupt...
America lost. Hillarnazi or a die hard socialist. It's like asking if you would rather be raped by a cactus or a cheese grater.
EXCELLENT RENDITION !!
I have been saying since forever that the Democratic National Committe and the mainstream media/pundits will not allow Bernie Sanders to be the nominee. Even if it means slipping Joe Biden in if the cunt Hillary implodes.
The Presstitutes are always on sale and Hillary has the money to buy them all
Yes. Things have changed buy money still buys anything people with money want.
Used to be they could openly buy the police and military. Now they are a little more subtle.
Union busting with police and military force
For approximately 150 years, union organizing efforts and strikes have been periodically opposed by police, security forces, National Guard units, special police forces such as the Coal and Iron Police, and/or use of the United States Army. Significant incidents have included the Haymarket Riot and the Ludlow massacre. The Homestead struggle of 1892, the Pullman walkout of 1894, and the Colorado Labor Wars of 1903 are examples of unions destroyed or significantly damaged by the deployment of military force. In all three examples, a strike became the triggering event.
TV better watch their asses. They are not indispensable. Just ask disappearing news papers everywhere.
It's a good point. I think about stuff like that quite frequently. Here's my take:
Cable TV news (nationwide news channels) are different than newspapers. A newspaper has to make money. Cable news DOESN'T. It's the establishment's "loss leader" to get their story shoved down our throats. Just look at MSNBC's ratings. There are probably more people on ZH than there are watching MSNBC right now. Yet there isn't even a HINT that MSNBC might go off the air for lack of viewership or falling advertising revenues. They're being PROPPED UP and KEPT IN BUSINESS to keep that channel open and pumping out that propoganda.
You make a good point too.
Meanwhile, if no one watches, then the propaganda will not be consumed. That of course will not keep them from trying, and the strategy certainly fits all the other Potemkin doings we call the American system (Bailouts, Fed buying the market and buying Treasuries, I better stop here, there are too many instances of propping up).
The word Prop-a-ganda, prop-up-ganda. Never looked at it like that before.
The propaganda goes deeper than that. I don't know if it still is, but NCIS is or was the most popular TV show. You might want to watch a few episodes just to see what people are being exposed to. It has a tough guy who runs around violating constitutional rights because that is what is needed in the episodes to protect us from all kinds of bad guys. His heart is in the right place, and he never violates the rights of somebody who isn't a scumbag in one way or another. Meanwhile, in the real world...
Will have to start minting those $1 trilion coins if they elect that imbecile Bernie Sanders(The $18 Trillion dollar man).
I believe Sanders when he says he's a democratic socialist. People are going to be all for it, until they realize that it is their shit that is going to get taken.
People have been having their "shit taken" for decades through our fuck the American Worker trade policies and monetary debasement. The only people left to take from are the Oligarch Cunts who stole it in the first place. That's pretty much Bernie's platform. I'm not really for the guy buy "Socialism Bad!" Lost all meaning for me when the party of conservatism ran up the debt and bailed out the banks ion their way out of the White House.
If Bernie unleashes the so-called "takers" on Wall Street's plunder I'm all for it.
You are the world's biggest sucker if you think that Bernie Sanders gives a fuck about you and is going to go after wall street.
What cock sucking faggot would down vote this? Sanders is Obama without the tan. They were both promising about the same things before the election. Classic bait and switch.
Ah, fuck it. If you're that stupid you can't be fixed.
The media is doing their job of promoting the candidate that promises them the most money. What else is new? The major issue here is that the Dem voters are now questioning their own judgement: "Really... Hillary won? I guess I was wrong about Bernie then." What a bunch of stupid sheep we are. We all deserve the totalitarian a$$-whooping we'll get down the line. And I don't want to hear any whining; you got what you stupidly asked for, ya bunch of toddlers.
Left wing leg humping libtard media elites have been in the bag for clinton for decades. Hell, half of them have worked on clinton campaigns or are married to a clinton hanger on.
This is nothing new. They've been jamming hitlery on us for the last 10 years.
Everyone knows the Pantsuited one likes ladies. She and the head of the DNC are bed buddies. Good ol' debbie does wasserman sargeant shultz is holding her up with every crane she can find. Even the other retards in the race are planted there to give the false impression of a choice. How so? How many times did benghazi or email scandals or clinton charity scandals, etc... get a mention? NONE. No. Those fucktards are there to take the heat off of hildabeast. Bernie, Wells and the other moron up there are Debbie's props to make hildy the final candidate. Death to the DNC
Don't be so gloomy. This is good. Our only hope is for enough americans to waken to the shape of the "Deep State", comprised of FedGov+MSM+Academia. If Hillary is the Democrat nominee, that will open some eyes. And if she wins the election, that will be even better. I don't think there is any candidate, in either party, who would do more damage to the FedGov.
A cackling dried up old witch that believes in "dynastic entitlement" and an old socialist commie, Leonid Sanders. Useless drivel....
Why are you being so nice to Hillary?
This is what happens when the "performance" on a TV show is more important than policies of the candidate
As Dick Nixon would tell you. Nothing new under the sun.
Yup. I read "The Selling of the President" back in the day. Same as it ever was.
http://www.amazon.com/Selling-President-Classical-Packaging-Candidate/dp...
There were only 2 kinds of people watching that dabate.
Stupid People
and
Stupid People with journalism degrees.
isn't that redundant?
Not for stupid idiots.
Hillary won the debate because "the narrative" SAYS she won the debate.
Plus, as Jim Webb said, the debate was rigged to make Hillary the winner.
The other doofusses on the stage were mere props.
The next five debates will be unwatchable and unwatched informercials for Hillary.
The only thing you will know is what the New York Times tells you:
"There was a Democrat debate last night. Hillary won."
"In other news, scientists have discovered a new drug that that turns weenie men into irresistable sex magnet hunks. In addition, scientists say, it also produces a pleasant high."
I would strongly advise Donald Trump to take advantage of the next dem debate. Live podcast from one of his living rooms, chipping in at the tv whenever he felt like it (sort of like real people do at home during debates). What a coup! They didn't invite me, so I invited myself!
The kicker is, it isn't really a new drug and it isn't the man who takes it ;)
Hillary doesn't smoke, far as I know, and she doesn't do any public speaking that isn't pre-packaged, so I can only attribute the coarseness of her voice to spending every waking private moment screaming and screeching.
Every prez race has a Bernie, but the Bernie usually doesn't make it this far. It is either his socialist message or lack of an alternative message from the competition, one or the other.
Either way, the key to their agenda is in those bright red apples up in the high branches, perfectly ripe but slightly out of reach, better known as 401(k)s.
"Guaranteed Retirment Accounts" will be the Obamacare initiative of the next admin, and your own personal retirement assets will be part of that plan. Guarangoddamfuckinteeya.
yup. almost 59.5 years old....the day i cross, all the IRA bux transfer to post-tax brokerage accts. gladly pay the taxes once the penalties are off.
i figure tax rates have nowhere to go but up, and IRAs will be too sweet for the next admin to resist.
"We are interested only in the financial future of our fellow americans, which is why we want to safeguard your IRA & 401(k) retirement savings by requiring that 50% of the assets be in US Treasuries....."
That is how I think that the theft of retirement accounts will go down. That is, if we last long enough for the theft to occur. If something just flushes us down the toilet, they could just come in and take them under the guise of national security or some other bullshit, but at that point, it'll be too late for it to matter.
CFPB is already hard at work. 401(k) custodians now have a fiduciary duty to their account holders, and the effectiveness of that fiduciary duty will be determined by the CFPB. Of course, the 401(k) custodians will be found incompetent on a criminal scale, requiring swift and bold moves by . . .the IRS.
Check it out: Oregon, California, Connecticut and Illinois are getting ready to launch their own GRA's, basically automatic payroll deductions to a state fund . . .sure, you can "disenroll" for now, how nice of them! But strange how those four states have the largest unfunded public employee pension funds.
Sure, I'll give my fuckin money to the state of Illinois! It'll be safer there!
The beautiful thing is that it might pit Wall Street against the government.
I even paid the 10% penalty.
10% now or 70% haircut tomorrow.
Easy choice.
Am I the only one that noticed that Hillary has some serious mutton-chops? Her face is hairly like a little bleached snow monkey. The DNC should pay for a laser hair removal ASAP.
Her pussy hair is so intertwined .... when she spreads her cheeks .... it sounds like ripping duct tape .... off a card board box !
Just think about it for a moment... "they" don't care what the people think or who they on line vote for... it is the convention delegates that actually "vote" for the DEM nominee. The Party and the Lame Strem edia are the same entity. Ergo Hillary "won" and will win.
Democratic Party Nomination ProcessThe allocation of delegates to the Democratic National Convention is determined as follows:
BASE DELEGATES Each stated (including the District of Columbia) is awarded a number of delegates to the national convention based on its share of the total, registered Democratic popular vote and its share of the electoral vote in the three most recent presidential elections. 75% of these delegates are allocated as district delegates (chosen in each congressional district in a state) and the remaining 25% as at-large delegates (chosen state-wide). 3,075 total.
PLEDGED "PLEO" (Party Leaders and Elected Officials) DELEGATES The fifty states and the District of Columbia are awarded a number of delegates equal to 15% of their number of base delegates to be filled by party leaders and elected officials. Puerto Rico, Guam and American Samoa are also awarded PLEO Delegates. 462 total.
UNPLEDGED "PLEO" DELEGATES Primarily Democratic Members of Congress, Governors, and "distinguished party leaders." 802 total.
The person who "wins", will be the most corrupt person tptb can find. It has nothing to do with anything else.
Rigged...game.
The Sheep are two busy grazing reality TV to ever focus on a political debate for longer than 5 minutes. Way easier to turn on the news or read a paper the next day to find out who won.....Hillary!
If the pundits say she won then guess what? She won.
Anderson Cooper who says that "being gay is a blessing" and he "couldn't be more proud" of his sexuality, is a member of one of the most politically aggressive groups in America. The fact that he “came out” shows that his homosexuality is a political issue with him and IMO that should have excluded him from being moderater of a presidential debate.
Was Cooper fair?
Here is the final tally from NPR of how much air time each candidate received from moderator Cooper who had discretion to allow more time for an answer:
Clinton: 30 min 25 sec
Sanders: 27 min 41 sec
O'Malley: 17 min 08 sec
Webb: 15 min 20 sec
Chafee: 9 min 05 sec
Here were the rules: “During the two-hour-long debate, each candidate was to have one minute to answer a direct question. If the candidate is brought up in someone else's answer, he or she had 30 seconds for rebuttal.” That’s how Cooper used the rules and his “discretion” to give Hillary and Sanders more air time.
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/10/13/448406783/on-the-clock-the-biggest-talkers-of-tonights-deb
Like Jim Webb said, why invite me if I can't speak: "[I]n that kind of an environment, you know, I was either going to be Mr. Angry or I was going to be a potted plant. That was the only way to try to get into the conversation.”
The Long Con: Democracy & The Illusion Of Consent
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-09-21/long-con-democracy-illusion-con...
Also, from the 2014 Princeton study:
Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens
https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_a...
Excerpts:
A great deal of empirical research speaks to the policy influence of one or another set of actors, but until recently it has not been possible to test these contrasting theoretical predictions against each other within a single statistical model. We report on an effort to do so, using a unique data set that includes measures of the key variables for 1,779 policy issues.
Multivariate analysis indicates that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence. The results provide substantial support for theories of Economic-Elite Domination and for theories of Biased Pluralism, but not for theories of Majoritarian Electoral Democracy or Majoritarian Pluralism.
In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule—at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S. political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.
...the preferences of economic elites (as measured by our proxy, the preferences of “affluent” citizens) have far more independent impact upon policy change than the preferences of average citizens do. To be sure, this does not mean that ordinary citizens always lose out; they fairly often get the policies they favor, but only because those policies happen also to be preferred by the economically-elite citizens who wield the actual influence.
From "Post-Soviet Lessons for a Post-America Century" by Dmitry Orlov, someone who experienced the collapse of the Soviet Union and the various effects of that collapse on life there:
People in the United States have a broadly similar attitude toward politics with people of the Soviet Union. In the U.S., this is often referred to as "voter apathy", but it might be more accurately described as non-voter indifference. The Soviet Union had a single, entrenched, systemically corrupt political party, which held a monopoly on power. The U.S. has two entrenched, systemically corrupt political parties, whose positions are often indistinguishable, and which together hold a monopoly on power. In either case, there is, or was, a single governing elite, but in the United States it organized itself into opposing teams to make its stranglehold on power seem more sportsmanlike.
Although people often bemoan political apathy as if it were a grave social ill, it seems to me that this is just as it should be. Why should essentially powerless people want to engage in a humiliating farce designed to demonstrate the legitimacy of those who wield the power? In Soviet-era Russia, intelligent people did their best to ignore the Communists: paying attention to them, whether through criticism or praise, would only serve to give them comfort and encouragement, making them feel as if they mattered. Why should Americans want to act any differently with regard to the Republicans and the Democrats? For love of donkeys and elephants?
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“The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ...We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. ...In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons... who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind.” -– Edward Bernays – Propaganda – 1928
The weaponized media at work.
Edit to add: Did any of you know,
Captain America is black now and he beats up constitutional consevatives. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THg1kmxZk6M
This should be a wake up call to what the mainstream media is if anything . it really is disgusting.
The whole "debate" thing is nothing but one big farcical show and, even then, the media feels it needs to edit it into their idea of propaganda perfection:
Cable News Edits Out Rousing Sanders Attack on Vapid Media Coverage
https://theintercept.com/2015/10/14/cable-news-edits-out-rousing-sanders...
They edited out what Sanders said after his disgusting comment about too much attention being paid to Hillary's and her staff's criminally incompetent handling of at least 400 classified emails (up to Top Secret/SCI/Noforn) on an unsecured server where he said other important issues weren't being discussed.
More on the farce, this time about the Justice Department's obvious preferential treatment of oligarchs:
Holder Defends Record of Not Prosecuting Financial Fraud
https://theintercept.com/2015/10/16/holder-defends-record-of-not-prosecu...
Hillary would have already been in jail if she'd been some poor GI slob who did even one percent of what she and her staff did instead of smirking and bobbing her head in agreement about Sander's email comment.
Prosecuted Whistleblowers Call Out Double Standard in Hillary's Email Scandal
http://insider.foxnews.com/2015/10/15/whistleblowers-call-out-double-sta...
Berny Sanders is a shill. He has no intention of being the Demoncrap nominee. He's just there to make it appear that there is a contest for the Demoncrap nomination.
We're being psychologically prepared to accept a Clinton victory over Sanders even if all indications might point to Sanders. There is nothing to indicate the primary elections will be fair, the votes will correctly counted, and the real winners will be declared the actual winners. Around here we seem to realize every financial market is manipulated, mainly through electronic means, but pay no mind to the election process. The same thing could happen to Trump on the other side. I don't trust these motherfuckers one bit.
What debate?
While I agree that awful bitch Hillary is being sold by the media, "online polls", really?
About as scientific as Mann's hockey stick.
All Republicans should get out and vote for Bernie - in the primaries!
Hitlary's vagina won.
I heard from a good source that Wulf Blitzer gets a zioboner everytime he sees Hitlery