I agree, what a scandal the email server is! But not because it is too vulnerable... because it is not nearly vulnerable enough! I want someone with the balls to put their full unredacted shadiness on a public freaking web server. I mean, just last week they declassified the presidential briefings from 53 years ago. Even that was redacted to the hilt. There should be a rule that if you can release the full unredacted shit from 50 years ago, you probably shouldn't be doing it in the first place. Obama promised to release the Bush torture emails, but he reneged on THAT promise. What a bitch. Bush and Cheney would be hanging in the Hague. Not that we'll ever sign into the International Criminal Court. Especially after being convicted of state sponsered terrorism by the International Court of Justice in the Reagan years.
Progressive: I am pro choice. Me: Can I choose my own healthcare? Progressive: No. Me: Can I choose what I do with the money I earn? Progressive: No. Me: Can I choose how I defend my family and possessions? Progressive: No. Me: What can I choose? Progressive: An abortion and a same sex marriage. Me: I don't agree with your opinions. Progressive: OH MY GOD. STOP OPPRESSING ME YOU RACIST BIGOT!
Wanna see some masculine micro-aggression? Tell me I am no longer entitled to any of the Constitutional freedoms written into law back in the late 18th century.
I think that what Sanders was trying to say is exactly what this cartoon implies -- who cares about the emails, when the real issue is that Hillary is part of the machine that has fucked all of us. No rational human being could support Hillary who represents more of the same. Of course Sanders is also part of the machine, as are Trump and all of the rest of the national candidates.
Yup, and to make matters worse, there is a 90% chance there will be no election next year. So this is all just a circus freak-show to distract us from the fact that the iceberg ripped a huge hole in the hull and water is gushing in. And the band sucks, bunch of lip-syncing no-talents. Bartender!
Not this candidate. My AG will put the screws to the mafia, aka, establishment. My Sec. of the Treasury will restore that department to its rightful place and the Federal Reserve will be repudiated and all that implies. We will work with a certain gentlemen from Oklahoma to track down and end corrupt programs, departments, officials, and employees. We will replace the CIA and drastically reform the NSA to strictly limit its activities to those actually necessary to protect this country's citizens from outside aggression. Corporations (and foundations) will be treated as the people they are - taxed accordingly, monitored just like every other citizen, and put to death (literally the entire company including the board and majority stockholders) when found guilty of crimes that warrant such a sentence for an individual.
Further, we will welcome international investigations of international crimes committed by American agents and cooperate in the apprehension, prosecution, and punishment of said criminals.
And a whole bunch of other stuff but we all know TheReplacement would be killed well before any of this could be carried out.
Sanders is actually a pretty smart guy. In carrying out his orders from the DNC, he still got his point across for those intelligent enough to grasp the subtext. What did he actually say...
The American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn e-mails.
(So think about what this means if Hillary gets four more years in the public eye. 48 more months of scandals.)
Sanders is a complete nut job who learned to say and believe anything and everything the la la land shit heads in Vermont wanted him to say and believe.
He's originally from NYC area but had to buy into the irrational as hell idealism rampant in a rural state supported by tourism and wealthy transplants wanting it to be nirvana.
Trump is a complete lunatic as well thinking he's Superman fighting for "TRUTH, JUSTICE AND THE AMERICAN WAY"
It isn't going to happen kiddies.
So we devolve into a situation of complete pandemonium which will probably result in several states leaving the Union soon. Like Vermont.
i believe we will have a military coup regardless of the election with the new president only serving to placate the masses as it unfolds. In fact it was expected under Obama which is why he was elected.
With the help of MSM, Hillary is winning the perception battle. Instead of "official communications, many of them secret, that are the property of the government" are simply "emails."
Hell, we all send emails.
And instead of "criminal acts to be prosecuted according to USC's," it's simply a "scandal."
Hell, scandals . . .isn't that what Clintons do?
I don't think she can keep this up forever. Even in sympathetic interviews, her gesticulations and wide-eyed laughter make her appear insane.
It just hit me today why Hillary really might get charged criminally: Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills, and Sid Blumenthal. It's pretty unlikely those three are above the law, or else the intelligence community would go apeshit. They're guilty of the same felonies as Hillary (all four could be charged with additional offenses unique to them, but the overlapping offenses alone are enough for jail time). So when the FBI eventually refers charges to the DOJ, it's not going to be just Hillary that's referred.
So the DOJ is in a bind - how do you defend prosectuing Huma, Cheryl, and Sid but not the person who, with premeditation, facilitated and condoned the security breaches? Especially when Hillary's number of felonies will be much greater than any of the other three individually. If DOJ/Obama is intent on letting Hillary skate, they'd have to let all four skate. I don't see how that happens without a revolt in the FBI, Intelligence community, and probably even among the DOJ rank and file that aren't political hacks.
If this were about Hillary, and Hillary alone, I wouldn't expect that the law apply to her. But that's my point. I don't see how her apparatchiks escape this though, so how does DOJ possibly defend ignoring her far more numerous crimes?
For God's sake man! Sandy Berger was caught red handed stealing documents from the national archives down his pants, not a day in jail. The corruption has hit critical mass where even the second and third tiers are immune from penalties.
So how many days in jail did Petraeus spend for his war crimes. Oh wait! He was just following orders. Sharing classified information with his mistress got him a slap on the wrist.
Chelsea Manning deserves a medal, not life in prison. In my dreams, Edward Snowden is Director of Central Intelligence, and Julian Assange is Secretary of State. These acid flashbacks are a bitch.
You want to see the rule of law exercised in this country? Show one part government agency/branch that another has stepped on its toes. They take their jurisdiction very seriously, and the security/secrecy freak agencies had their toes pummeled by Hillary.
Sure, but I'll bet that there are people in agencies that rely on secrecy that are calling for her head. It doesn't mean that they'll get it, but it doesn't mean that they won't either. I guarantee she pissed some people right the fuck off.
Regarding not the expected behavior of the Sociopath and hardened criminal that is H. Clinton, er, the Clintons, but the behavior and reaction of a critical mass of Americans to this email "scandal"...
I consider this situation to be a bellwhether event, and that in fact our collective Self-Absorption (and what an amazing feat is a "collective self-absorption"!) has weakened "us" beyond repair and earned us every ounce of our demise.
Benghazi is the issue. However, at it's core is the False Flag of 911. And, the phony War on Terror of arming, funding & training AL CIA duh terror organizations.
But her server was safe - it was at home protected by the Secret Service - don't cha know.
(I thought from the very begining they should have rounded up everyone who mailed her outside the firewall and said "You are going to jail, period...so tell us why you did this and we will have room for a deal." Then work it right up the ladder. And not to mention the obvious - show up with a knock warrant backed up by 50 agents and seize the server day one.)
If she doesnt get indicted, we all have much to fear...not that we don't already.
There was no hardware firewall. That server was conneccted directly to the internet with remote desktop services enabled. Total amatuer hour. Any fifth grader who found it by doing ip and port scans could have forced their way into that server. You can be damn certain that such a high value target that did not even have a simple hardware firewall was accessed by more than one foreign government. If there had been a firewall it would have been impossible for it to be directly connected to the internet. Let's say her ISP (Internet Service Provider) was Comcast at her home. She would have a (hopefully) business class modem which would have maybe 5 ethernet ports to connect devices to the internet. Typically with a business class modem a block of static ip addresses would be purchased. Let's say her block of ip addresses were 20.20.20.20 through 20.20.20.24 (this example is simplified). Let's say an ethernet cable was attached from the server to an open port on the Comcast modem and the server nic was properly assigned the static ip address of 20.20.20.20. This is an external ip address and can be communicated with by other devices on the internet. Anybody doing an ip scan that came across a ping response from 20.20.20.20 would know that there is a device online at this ip sddress and it is quite simple to figure our what it is and find a way to access it. This is basically how her email server was attached to the internet. The server operating system likely has a firewall but those are not nearly robust enough to halt hackers.
How it should have been configured was the server ethernet cable should have attached to a hardware firewall then the hardware firewall attaches to the modem. The hardware firewall gets assigned the external ip address of 20.20.20.20, gets configured to limit connections to the network from the internet and also configures a local subnet for communication between devices behind the firewall. So the local subnet scope may be 10.10.10.1 through 10.10.10.254. The server nic would be assigned a static ip address in the local subnet scope and its ability to communicate with the external internet would be managed and protected by the hardware firewall.
The liklihood that her email server was hacked by foreign governments is extremely high due to it being directly connected to the internet without the protection of a hardware firewall and due to its high value as a target of foreign governments. The stupidity of connecting a server directly to the open internet cannot be emphasized highly enough. Apparently these morons did not want to deal with the hassle of connecting to a vpn. This also means that all traffic to and from this server was unencrypted.
I once got the guided tour of the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, in which the highlights were: 3. The Atomic Fireball candy jar; 2. Hillary's corner office; and 1. THE SHREDDER. Everyone, including the tour guide, just laughed their asses off. This was about 1995 give or take. I was there for an important enough wedding that the rehearsal dinner was held in the Arkansas State Capital rotunda......
Nothing has changed. Never been gladder that I like bourbon.
Funny how the Fed, income taxes and women suffrage all occurred during the progressive era. Unmarried women, the number one core constituent of the Dem Party (besides idiots) have turned the USG into a surrogate for daddy or husband...and thus began the handouts... and to pay for it, we have the Fed to print and the income tax to mail millions of "legal" cows...even if they flee...unlike virtually any other country on earth, they still have to pay or you are arrested at the border.
Oh before you shoot at me on the suffrage issue...watch who votes for Hitlary even if she is behind bars (where she belongs but won't be). Women and free stuff seekers.
BTW I had several long talks with Jerome Zeifman about Hitlary...you know the Dem with the balls to want her fire for lying and fraud while she was a junior investigating lawyer on the Nixon impeachement team. He knew full well she was pure evil.
What law? What justice? What morality? The great stupidity is that there's law or justice. First, a Black messiah; then a woman messiah. There are no messiahs; there are no saviors; there are only frauds.
It's not like the Republicans have ever been caught spying on the DNC HQ before. Of course if I were a demoncrat in power I would do everything possible including running a private email server in order to hedge my chances of evading the espionage of the neo cons. duh. So many liars of omission are out there these days.
Remember that one time bill and Hillary left office in 2001 and stole nearly everything not bolted down at the White House and sold it or kept it? Millions in US government property. You can forget the emails. That alone should have put them in jail for a decade.
Not that GWB wasn't also a twit, just like any major party nominated status quo perpetuating bought and paid for empty suit, but the Clinton staff also removed all of the "W" keys from computer keyboards:
White House Vandalized In Transition, G.A.O. Finds
FORWARD, COMRADES!
YES, THE MARCH MUST GO ON!
FORWARD COMRADES...
NOT!!!!!!!
I agree, what a scandal the email server is! But not because it is too vulnerable... because it is not nearly vulnerable enough! I want someone with the balls to put their full unredacted shadiness on a public freaking web server. I mean, just last week they declassified the presidential briefings from 53 years ago. Even that was redacted to the hilt. There should be a rule that if you can release the full unredacted shit from 50 years ago, you probably shouldn't be doing it in the first place. Obama promised to release the Bush torture emails, but he reneged on THAT promise. What a bitch. Bush and Cheney would be hanging in the Hague. Not that we'll ever sign into the International Criminal Court. Especially after being convicted of state sponsered terrorism by the International Court of Justice in the Reagan years.
Caught a little bit of Hannity on sat radio yesterday.
Don't know who it was trying to haul water for Hillary.....but Dan Bongino beat him down like a little freakin girl.
Almost made him cry....I'm like geez dude.....there's no crying on sat radio.
...over the cliff. No wonder they lead from behind.
FORWARD SHEEPLE!
Enough Ramirez
Ramirez failed to realize, like every other D.C. hanger on, that Sanders was implying that Clinton was completely irrelevant to Americans.
"Enough of the emails" was actually 'Enough of the irrelevant Clinton'
Rameriz is a tribe member. Hillary isn't.
I like Ramirez. Very funny. But you go ahead and vote for Hillary since you obviously prefer her to him.
Progressive: I am pro choice.
Me: Can I choose my own healthcare?
Progressive: No.
Me: Can I choose what I do with the money I earn?
Progressive: No.
Me: Can I choose how I defend my family and possessions?
Progressive: No.
Me: What can I choose?
Progressive: An abortion and a same sex marriage.
Me: I don't agree with your opinions.
Progressive: OH MY GOD. STOP OPPRESSING ME YOU RACIST BIGOT!
Wanna see some masculine micro-aggression? Tell me I am no longer entitled to any of the Constitutional freedoms written into law back in the late 18th century.
Hilary has Jewish roots that tie her to the Jewish voters.
http://www.truthinmedia.org/Bulletins99/tim99-8-1.html
or
Google: "Hilary grandmother Jewish"
I think that what Sanders was trying to say is exactly what this cartoon implies -- who cares about the emails, when the real issue is that Hillary is part of the machine that has fucked all of us. No rational human being could support Hillary who represents more of the same. Of course Sanders is also part of the machine, as are Trump and all of the rest of the national candidates.
Yup, and to make matters worse, there is a 90% chance there will be no election next year. So this is all just a circus freak-show to distract us from the fact that the iceberg ripped a huge hole in the hull and water is gushing in. And the band sucks, bunch of lip-syncing no-talents. Bartender!
>>> Yup, and to make matters worse, there is a 90% chance there will be no election next year. <<<<
Bullshit. Name one time in the US history that presidential elections were cancelled!!
The show will go on.
>>> Yup, and to make matters worse, there is a 90% chance there will be no election next year. <<<<
Bullshit. Name one time in the US history that presidential elections were cancelled!!
The show will go on.
Not this candidate. My AG will put the screws to the mafia, aka, establishment. My Sec. of the Treasury will restore that department to its rightful place and the Federal Reserve will be repudiated and all that implies. We will work with a certain gentlemen from Oklahoma to track down and end corrupt programs, departments, officials, and employees. We will replace the CIA and drastically reform the NSA to strictly limit its activities to those actually necessary to protect this country's citizens from outside aggression. Corporations (and foundations) will be treated as the people they are - taxed accordingly, monitored just like every other citizen, and put to death (literally the entire company including the board and majority stockholders) when found guilty of crimes that warrant such a sentence for an individual.
Further, we will welcome international investigations of international crimes committed by American agents and cooperate in the apprehension, prosecution, and punishment of said criminals.
And a whole bunch of other stuff but we all know TheReplacement would be killed well before any of this could be carried out.
Sanders is actually a pretty smart guy. In carrying out his orders from the DNC, he still got his point across for those intelligent enough to grasp the subtext. What did he actually say...
The American people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn e-mails.
(So think about what this means if Hillary gets four more years in the public eye. 48 more months of scandals.)
Sanders is a complete nut job who learned to say and believe anything and everything the la la land shit heads in Vermont wanted him to say and believe.
He's originally from NYC area but had to buy into the irrational as hell idealism rampant in a rural state supported by tourism and wealthy transplants wanting it to be nirvana.
Trump is a complete lunatic as well thinking he's Superman fighting for "TRUTH, JUSTICE AND THE AMERICAN WAY"
It isn't going to happen kiddies.
So we devolve into a situation of complete pandemonium which will probably result in several states leaving the Union soon. Like Vermont.
i believe we will have a military coup regardless of the election with the new president only serving to placate the masses as it unfolds. In fact it was expected under Obama which is why he was elected.
Enough about the E-mails.
Where are the handcuffs?
Can we just strike the match and burn it down already.
Shit, let's just bash Volkswagen instead.
They gave us better milage, performance and reliability. They need to be destroyed.
The tax drop on driving is killing them as did the smoking tax base.
They are having to get straight up bold. tax co2, that aint going away.
Pure comedy/tragedy
CO2 credits. Pay to exhale.
VW committed the ultimate sin - lese majeste.
With the help of MSM, Hillary is winning the perception battle. Instead of "official communications, many of them secret, that are the property of the government" are simply "emails."
Hell, we all send emails.
And instead of "criminal acts to be prosecuted according to USC's," it's simply a "scandal."
Hell, scandals . . .isn't that what Clintons do?
I don't think she can keep this up forever. Even in sympathetic interviews, her gesticulations and wide-eyed laughter make her appear insane.
She is more of a liability for the Ds now. They should send her off to the glue factory.
Crossing fingers.
I was thinking the Glulag...
I am thinking a whore house for blind lepers.
They'd also have to be deaf and have no sense of smell. Even then, I don't think she'd get many tips...
/rimshot
@ Amy,
"her gesticulations and wide-eyed laughter make her look insane."
That's beacuse under all the facade, she is truly Pure Evil & categorically Insane.
It just hit me today why Hillary really might get charged criminally: Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills, and Sid Blumenthal. It's pretty unlikely those three are above the law, or else the intelligence community would go apeshit. They're guilty of the same felonies as Hillary (all four could be charged with additional offenses unique to them, but the overlapping offenses alone are enough for jail time). So when the FBI eventually refers charges to the DOJ, it's not going to be just Hillary that's referred.
So the DOJ is in a bind - how do you defend prosectuing Huma, Cheryl, and Sid but not the person who, with premeditation, facilitated and condoned the security breaches? Especially when Hillary's number of felonies will be much greater than any of the other three individually. If DOJ/Obama is intent on letting Hillary skate, they'd have to let all four skate. I don't see how that happens without a revolt in the FBI, Intelligence community, and probably even among the DOJ rank and file that aren't political hacks.
Funny, you still actually think there is a rule of law
If this were about Hillary, and Hillary alone, I wouldn't expect that the law apply to her. But that's my point. I don't see how her apparatchiks escape this though, so how does DOJ possibly defend ignoring her far more numerous crimes?
For God's sake man! Sandy Berger was caught red handed stealing documents from the national archives down his pants, not a day in jail. The corruption has hit critical mass where even the second and third tiers are immune from penalties.
Fair point. But Petraeus was prosecuted for far less than what any of Hillary's cabal did. And Berger was at least prosecuted.
So how many days in jail did Petraeus spend for his war crimes. Oh wait! He was just following orders. Sharing classified information with his mistress got him a slap on the wrist.
Chelsea Manning deserves a medal, not life in prison. In my dreams, Edward Snowden is Director of Central Intelligence, and Julian Assange is Secretary of State. These acid flashbacks are a bitch.
You want to see the rule of law exercised in this country? Show one part government agency/branch that another has stepped on its toes. They take their jurisdiction very seriously, and the security/secrecy freak agencies had their toes pummeled by Hillary.
At the end of the day. It's a Criminal Fraud UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. system, run by Criminals & owned by Criminals.
Sure, but I'll bet that there are people in agencies that rely on secrecy that are calling for her head. It doesn't mean that they'll get it, but it doesn't mean that they won't either. I guarantee she pissed some people right the fuck off.
Fucking A!!
Regarding not the expected behavior of the Sociopath and hardened criminal that is H. Clinton, er, the Clintons, but the behavior and reaction of a critical mass of Americans to this email "scandal"...
I consider this situation to be a bellwhether event, and that in fact our collective Self-Absorption (and what an amazing feat is a "collective self-absorption"!) has weakened "us" beyond repair and earned us every ounce of our demise.
This is not about emails. Purging through assignments which ensure your colleagues will never return alive is the issue. Benghazi is the issue.
Benghazi is the issue. However, at it's core is the False Flag of 911. And, the phony War on Terror of arming, funding & training AL CIA duh terror organizations.
what's the difference between hrc & edward snowden? one of them actually did compromise national security & the other knows how email works...
Bravo!
But her server was safe - it was at home protected by the Secret Service - don't cha know.
(I thought from the very begining they should have rounded up everyone who mailed her outside the firewall and said "You are going to jail, period...so tell us why you did this and we will have room for a deal." Then work it right up the ladder. And not to mention the obvious - show up with a knock warrant backed up by 50 agents and seize the server day one.)
If she doesnt get indicted, we all have much to fear...not that we don't already.
There was no hardware firewall. That server was conneccted directly to the internet with remote desktop services enabled. Total amatuer hour. Any fifth grader who found it by doing ip and port scans could have forced their way into that server. You can be damn certain that such a high value target that did not even have a simple hardware firewall was accessed by more than one foreign government. If there had been a firewall it would have been impossible for it to be directly connected to the internet. Let's say her ISP (Internet Service Provider) was Comcast at her home. She would have a (hopefully) business class modem which would have maybe 5 ethernet ports to connect devices to the internet. Typically with a business class modem a block of static ip addresses would be purchased. Let's say her block of ip addresses were 20.20.20.20 through 20.20.20.24 (this example is simplified). Let's say an ethernet cable was attached from the server to an open port on the Comcast modem and the server nic was properly assigned the static ip address of 20.20.20.20. This is an external ip address and can be communicated with by other devices on the internet. Anybody doing an ip scan that came across a ping response from 20.20.20.20 would know that there is a device online at this ip sddress and it is quite simple to figure our what it is and find a way to access it. This is basically how her email server was attached to the internet. The server operating system likely has a firewall but those are not nearly robust enough to halt hackers.
How it should have been configured was the server ethernet cable should have attached to a hardware firewall then the hardware firewall attaches to the modem. The hardware firewall gets assigned the external ip address of 20.20.20.20, gets configured to limit connections to the network from the internet and also configures a local subnet for communication between devices behind the firewall. So the local subnet scope may be 10.10.10.1 through 10.10.10.254. The server nic would be assigned a static ip address in the local subnet scope and its ability to communicate with the external internet would be managed and protected by the hardware firewall.
The liklihood that her email server was hacked by foreign governments is extremely high due to it being directly connected to the internet without the protection of a hardware firewall and due to its high value as a target of foreign governments. The stupidity of connecting a server directly to the open internet cannot be emphasized highly enough. Apparently these morons did not want to deal with the hassle of connecting to a vpn. This also means that all traffic to and from this server was unencrypted.
DAMN THE TAXPAYERS! FULL SPEED AHEAD!!!
;-D
I once got the guided tour of the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, in which the highlights were: 3. The Atomic Fireball candy jar; 2. Hillary's corner office; and 1. THE SHREDDER. Everyone, including the tour guide, just laughed their asses off. This was about 1995 give or take. I was there for an important enough wedding that the rehearsal dinner was held in the Arkansas State Capital rotunda......
Nothing has changed. Never been gladder that I like bourbon.
A Walton wedding?
I know what to do, a lot more free shit. A whole lot more. Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead, Progress , fairness and justice.
Funny how the Fed, income taxes and women suffrage all occurred during the progressive era. Unmarried women, the number one core constituent of the Dem Party (besides idiots) have turned the USG into a surrogate for daddy or husband...and thus began the handouts... and to pay for it, we have the Fed to print and the income tax to mail millions of "legal" cows...even if they flee...unlike virtually any other country on earth, they still have to pay or you are arrested at the border.
Oh before you shoot at me on the suffrage issue...watch who votes for Hitlary even if she is behind bars (where she belongs but won't be). Women and free stuff seekers.
BTW I had several long talks with Jerome Zeifman about Hitlary...you know the Dem with the balls to want her fire for lying and fraud while she was a junior investigating lawyer on the Nixon impeachement team. He knew full well she was pure evil.
This election thing is like some bad Mexican soap opera.
One crack whore welfare queen can negate my vote, so.....
Fuck it, I'll never vote again, knock yourselves out.
What law? What justice? What morality? The great stupidity is that there's law or justice. First, a Black messiah; then a woman messiah. There are no messiahs; there are no saviors; there are only frauds.
It's not like the Republicans have ever been caught spying on the DNC HQ before. Of course if I were a demoncrat in power I would do everything possible including running a private email server in order to hedge my chances of evading the espionage of the neo cons. duh. So many liars of omission are out there these days.
Let's talk about treason and violations of article 1 section 9 of the constitution.
Remember that one time bill and Hillary left office in 2001 and stole nearly everything not bolted down at the White House and sold it or kept it? Millions in US government property. You can forget the emails. That alone should have put them in jail for a decade.
Not that GWB wasn't also a twit, just like any major party nominated status quo perpetuating bought and paid for empty suit, but the Clinton staff also removed all of the "W" keys from computer keyboards:
White House Vandalized In Transition, G.A.O. Finds
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/12/us/white-house-vandalized-in-transitio...
They're all petty, childish scum, which is nearly the definition of pols, but some are scummier than others.