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Germany Faces "National Disaster" Over Refugee Crisis As Hungary Slams Shut Border With Croatia

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“Border control officers are exposed to strong migratory pressures.”

That’s a quote from Georgi Kostov, the head of the interior ministry for Bulgaria where an Afghan man was shot and killed on Thursday, marking the first fatal shooting in Europe’s worsening migrant crisis. 

Bulgarian border guards claim a warning shot ricocheted and injured the man. He later died. Draw your own conclusions.

The official line from Bulgaria was this: “We are deeply shocked and regret the fatal incident. We are convinced that barriers, fences and police forces cannot solve the problems of people who are in a desperate situation.”

That’s a nice sentiment, but not everyone shares it and one person who is certainly not intent on adopting an open door policy to refugees fleeing the war-torn Middle East is Hungarian PM Viktor Orban who, as we’ve documented extensively, has gone to great lengths to close his country’s borders with razor wire fencing and protect those fences with water cannons, tear gas, and rubber bullets. 

Here’s a quote from an interview Orban gave today which pretty much sums things up as far as he’s concerned: 

“Spiritually, Islam was never part of Europe. It's the rulebook of another world.” 

Make no mistake, the back and forth Balkan border battles between the states that are on the frontlines of the crisis have been raging for months, as Serbia, Croatia, and Slovenia attempt to negotiate how to cope with Hungary's hardline approach. Orban's move to wall-off his country's border with Serbia triggered an influx of asylum seekers into Croatia (remember, everyone's trying to get to Germany), but Slovenia's unwillingness to serve as a kind of migrant superhighway steered refugees right back into Hungary and so now, Orban is closing the border with Croatia. Here's how we put it late last month: 

Once it became clear that Hungary was fully prepared to turn its border with Serbia into a warm April night in Baltimore in order to defend Europe’s “Christian heritage” (to quote Orban), refugees simply rerouted through Croatia. Serbia has facilitated this noting that it simply does not have the resources to accommodate the migrants and even if it did, they do not want to settle in Serbia in the first place. Once Slovenia said it wouldn’t be a part of a migrant "corridor" to Germany, the stage was set for migrants to zigzag from Hungary’s border with Serbia into Croatia, and then back into Hungary.

And here's more from Bloomberg on Orban's reaction after the EU failed to come to an agreement on closing off Greece to asylum seekers: 

Hungary will seal its border with Croatia from midnight on Friday, expanding one of the European Union’s toughest set of measures to stem the influx of refugees, Foreign Minister Peter Szijjarto said in Budapest.

 

"This is the second-best option," Szijjarto told reporters. "The best option, setting up an EU force to defend Greece’s external borders, was rejected in Brussels yesterday." 

 

An EU summit on Thursday failed to reach a final agreement on recruiting Turkey to help control the flow of refugees as Russia’s bombing campaign in Syria threatens to push more people to seek safety. The bloc’s leaders also made little progress on how to redesign the system of distributing immigrants, forming an EU border-guard corps or on ensuring arrivals are properly processed.

 

Hungary has extended an existing barbed-wire fence on its border with Serbia to cover its frontier with Croatia. Prime Minister Viktor Orban warned this week that his government would complete the barrier if EU leaders fail to agree on closing the Greek border, the main entry point for Syrian and other Middle Eastern refugees into the 28-nation bloc.

 

Meanwhile, in Germany, Angela Merkel is beginning to feel the heat as lawmakers and party loyalists become increasingly impatient with the hundreds of thousands of migrants streaming into the country. More, from AFP:

Germany's Angela Merkel is used to owning the room when she speaks to her party faithful, but the mood turned hostile when she defended her open-door refugee policy this week.


In a heated atmosphere, some of the 1,000-odd members at the meeting warned of a "national disaster" and demanded shuttering the borders as Germany expects up to one million migrants this year.


"Stop the refugee chaos -- save German culture + values -- dethrone Merkel," read a banner at the congress late Wednesday in the eastern state of Saxony, the home base for the anti-foreigner PEGIDA movement.


Managing the refugee crisis has turned into Merkel's greatest domestic political challenge since she took power almost 10 years ago, in November 2005.


Long valued by the electorate for her level-headed leadership amid the eurozone turmoil, Merkel has scared many with her welcoming stance amid a growing sentiment that the boat is full.


"The chancellor is walking on thin ice," judged the conservative daily Die Welt, pointing to a "growing gap" between Merkel and the base of her centre-right Christian Democrats (CDU) who demand she stem the record influx.


"The chancellor believes the nation can manage the crisis, but this belief is rapidly vanishing in the country," said the newspaper.


On Sunday, she jets off to Turkey to discuss with President Recep Tayyip Erdogan how to slow the inflow sparked by war and upheaval across the Middle East and North Africa, with almost 600,000 people arriving in Europe so far this year.


On the home front, Merkel has bravely insisted "we can do it", recalling US President Barack Obama's campaign rallying cry of "Yes we can".


But many Germans -- who in the summer greeted refugees at railway stations -- are losing faith as thousands keep coming daily and improvised refugee centres are bursting at the seams, including tent cities exposed to below-zero temperatures as winter approaches.

And here are two headlines which betray how desperate the situation is becoming:

  • SHOULD GERMANY, SLOVENIA CLOSE BORDERS, CROATIA WILL TOO: PUSIC
  • MERKEL CALLS ON EASTERN EUROPE TO SHOW SOLIDARITY OF REFUGEES

In short, there is now a very real threat that a cascading series of border closures will completely block the Balkan route (not to mention destroy Schengen forever) leading directly to i) possibly violent confrontations between migrants and border police, and ii) a dramatic shift in the people flow through Libya, which would mark a kind of "out of the frying pan and into the fire" scenario for Syrian refugees. 

As for those who have already made it to Germany and other EU countries where they intend to settle, we reiterate our warning that anti-migrant sentiment could end up creating a dangerous bout of scapegoating xenophobia and on that note, we close with the following excerpt from Bloomberg:

In another sign of backlash in the region, Czech President Milos Zeman said migrants from Muslim countries won’t respect local laws and will follow sharia, Novinky.cz news website reported.

 

“Adulterous women will be stoned; thieves will have their hands chopped off,” Zeman said while meeting employees of a butcher shop in eastern Czech Republic, Novinky said.

 

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Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:42 | 6676461 blabam
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Fuck this EU. Fuck this forced "SOLIDARITY". Fuck it I'm going to the bar. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:49 | 6676503 y3maxx
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...Lots of empty cities in China...

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:55 | 6676536 Haus-Targaryen
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This, as I have said from the beginning -- will turn into a shit show.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:04 | 6676605 monk27
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Will turn ? You're an optimist, my friend. It has turned already into the perfect shit show; everybody against everybody, and all against Merkel...

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:24 | 6676735 Haus-Targaryen
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No.  It hasn't turned.  

Germany is still operating as normal.  Germans, culturally sit on their hands longer than anyone.  Everyone else will have lost their mind, and form the outside -- Germans will appear like they have it all together.  

What you cannot see, is the same people that will have an intellectual conversation with "bekannte" (acquaintances) about the benefits as well as the challenges of immigration at work -- will be ranting about it at home at the top of their lungs, importing stacks of AKs from Poland & preparing for a race-war Ruby Ridge style.  Eventually -- the pressure will start sending these people over the edge.  

Last time the Germans got sent over the edge -- the body county was something like 40 million.  The problem with people (Japanese are the same way) that sit on their hands longer than anyone else -- is when shit does explode -- it is completely uncontrollable, violent & surprising.  

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:28 | 6676762 PresidentCamacho
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The Reich shall rise again! GO GERMANY

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:29 | 6676770 Obamamerica
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Perhaps Germany needs a new Hitler to protect itself from a true invasion. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:32 | 6676787 BaBaBouy
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HUNGARY Was Right... From Day ONE...

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:49 | 6676872 Pure Evil
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So defending your own values and culture is now "scapegoating xenophobia"?

Should we all just line up along the newly dug pits and wait for the muslim executioners to lop our heads off before they kick our corpses into the ditch?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:30 | 6677018 TeamDepends
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If you have no money, be polite.
-Old Danish Proverb
The muslim invaders have no money and are raping and pillaging. The welcome mat disappears in 3 2 1....

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:45 | 6677068 0b1knob
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It is interesting that three coutries that were royally screwed by NATO/EU (Libya, Greece and Serbia) are the countries allowing the refugee through.

What goes around comes around. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 18:03 | 6677116 the phantom
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What's also interesting is the high number of NON-SYRIANS streaming into Europe.  So the average moron is lead to believe the Russian bombing in Syria is causing this dramatic influx of refugees?  Syria is getting bombed so Afghanis, Pakistanis, and north africans are rushing to Europe?  Got it.... makes perfect sense.  Now get out your prayer rugs and face Mecca you liberal Euro shitheads.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 18:54 | 6677249 ACP
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Everyone is going there for the consequence-free rape-fest. No other reason than that.

180 hours community service for raping a 12 year old in Sweden:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3305460/posts

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 18:41 | 6677245 ACP
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@Pure Evil

Yes, that's exactly what George "Dr. Evil" Soros wants. Can't wait until that ugly fucker goes the way of Ceausescu.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 00:09 | 6678219 EARLPEARL
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you are a MORON and appear to be proud of it

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:38 | 6676824 Osmium
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We will be done with Obama in early 2017, should we send him to Germany to fill the role?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 18:29 | 6677194 Freddie
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The Germans are often always about business.  See who will want to do business with Germany or visit Germany when it turns into a Pakistan-esque African shithole.

The ZO and Zoligarcg banksters have been f**king Germany over for 400+ years with tribal bankster Red Shield wars.  When will they wake up.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 20:08 | 6677441 Chris Dakota
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They did wake up in 1933.

I told you guys back in August it's 1933 all over again.

maybe  Germany lets their country go down the tubes, but somewhere, someone steps up.

Just wait and see...

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 18:51 | 6677281 Secret Weapon
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Give them Trump.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 19:58 | 6677469 buyingsterling
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To lead them? Good call.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 19:36 | 6677407 Razor_Edge
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er kommt, Er KOMMT!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:35 | 6677034 Dugald
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The Reich shall rise again! GO GERMANY

        SO Brownshirts..........

 

 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 02:03 | 6678379 Ace006
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It doesn't have to be the Reich. Just defeat the leftist lunatics. Sensible people can seal a border and repatriate every last Muslim.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:29 | 6676769 monk27
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You are losing your country as we speak. Now, how long it will take for you guys to realize it, it's your problem... Meanwhile, more and more people from the "rest of Europe" start to dislike Germany a lot...

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:37 | 6676817 Haus-Targaryen
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The good news is -- these people look different than we do, talk differently than we do, and have obviously different names than we do.  If we need to kick a million people out of the country -- it would be a pretty easy process.  

"Oh, you are all from Syria -- we'll see you all back to Syria."  Watch all these fuckers "oh no, I lied, I am actually from Cameroon/Pakistan/Lebanon" etc., etc., 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:24 | 6676999 walküre
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1st .. dethrone Merkel with the "Vertrauensfrage".She would lose the process.

2nd .. train the young and willing brown men at the Bundeswehr for a couple months and send them into the fray to fight for their own country.

3rd .. put Claudia Roth in the next insane asylum

 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 02:05 | 6678381 Ace006
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Forget 2. They can do what they want when they are sent home.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:29 | 6677013 RiverRoad
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And if they 'd all applied for visas?  Where would they be now?????

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 20:09 | 6677446 Chris Dakota
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Germany ain't what she used to be.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 18:46 | 6677263 Freddie
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Americans, other Europeans, Brits and others are losing there countries because Zoligarchs like Soros and the other zios want it like that.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:43 | 6676851 Spivmeister
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Sorry, can´t agree. The majority of young Germans today are a bunch of happy-clappy,hipster,crap-talking,know it all Muppets who prefer to talk about work-lifestyle balance . These fruits were taught by the 68er pinko generation. In case of combat, they will try and have a discussion.....won´t work. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:10 | 6676944 Bush Baby
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That describes the  West Germans, castrated girly men all of them , but the East Germans still have the 3rd Reich spirit.

It will start there

 

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:17 | 6676975 Spivmeister
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Careful what you wish for!

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 03:52 | 6678446 Haus-Targaryen
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What in Gods name are you talking about?  Have you seen the brith rate for the former DDR?  

Fuck them.  I *love* the former East Germany, and am doing 110% everything in my power to move there ASAP from the former West.  That being said -- the former East Germans are fucking morons.  Why?  They don't have kids.  There are some parts of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern (Ostvorpommern) where the child/adult ratio is .1 -- focus on that decimal place.  For every 5 pair of people -- there is 1 kid.  They did it to themselves by not having children.  I have literally zero sympathy for these parts of East Germany that are MAF about all these immigrants, when you are having 4/5 Kindgergartens closing in a matter of years.  

The problem I have found is not German women, but German young men.  Fucking men-children all of them, that want to "party hard" and go to the bar every night until they are north of 40.  Marriage?  Fuck that.  Kids?  Why, takes away from my Beer fund.

If these fucking PEGIDA cocksuckers would start preaching what they are + "All of you who have been in a relationship with your girlfriend for a couple years -- do your duty for the Fatherland -- have 3 kids, and if you don't you are no better than Gysi."  

The culture war that destroyed American black families is here in Germany.  Not with the women (all of my fiance's friends want to get married and have a family badly, their s/o's not so much.  Which is also a point, if you are young, not a full on retard and single in the US, and are sick of the 35% of women not putting out before marriage, the other 35% fucking everyone, and the other 30% already taken -- come to Germany) but with men.  Men have been completely emasculated and destroyed.  

In the former West, its with "OMG OMG OMG WTF LOL BVB GEGAN FC Bayern" and this is their lives until 40 or so.  In the former East -- who knows what it is is, perhaps a lot of drugs, but they just don't have kids.  

Fix this problem, and teach your kids the values of conservatism and right of center politics, and the voting demographic will be materially different in 20 years.  If not -- in 20 years you'll have Deutschlandistan.  

EDIT-

http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article147704582/Mir-wurde-nahege...

SPD Mayor of the Capital of Sachsen Anhalt just left his party.  First of many members of the German political establishment to leave the two major parties -- only choice is to the right.  Lets see what he does.  

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 13:28 | 6679556 orez65
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" German young men.  Fucking men-children all of them ..."

That is what the feminists (a type of female mutation) in the US are trying to accomplish.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:31 | 6677020 californiagirl
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My 20-something cousin in Bavaria is practically foaming at the mouth and says that plenty of Germans are very upset about the "invasion" and angry with Merkel for starting this whole thing. Merkel got into power largely from the support in Bavaria.  It is dissipating quickly.  It is already wreaking havoc all over Germany. Crime is already up and Germans are protesting (https://www.rt.com/news/314684-germany-protests-migrants-pegida/) Of course, he also runs a small business so he is not exactly a "happy-clappy, hipster, crap-talking, know-it-all Muppet".

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 18:50 | 6677273 Freddie
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Germany before the wall came down was so safe.  People left bikes unlocked. I saw a Leica camera sitting on the seat of a car with it's windows down.  I recall locking a bike downtown and people loock at me like I was insane.

Soros, Zuckerberg and their ilk want this.  Germany better call for elections and throw people out or just phsycially outst them from office.  America and other countries are no better. Hungary is better.  They have balls.  The Battle of Vienna was not that long ago.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:44 | 6676857 El Vaquero
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And if the refugees refuse to even try to assimilate, that makes them easy targets.  I read something funny, yet horrifying regarding the Ferguson riots:  "When white people riot, we burn down entire continents."  Get enough Germans broke enough and angry enough, and I do believe that they will riot. 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 03:34 | 6678449 Haus-Targaryen
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I've been saying this for years -- and I will continue to say it -- the *best* thing that could possibly happen to Germany is bankruptcy & poverty for a decade or so.  Bankruptcy of the Bund, the states, companys, people -- everything.  

Only "wealthy" nations can afford to be shit-headed Leftists.  A good dose of poverty (provided Socialists don't capitalise on it, oh the irony of that statement) would do Germany good.  

If Germany goes Jeremy Corbyn/Bernie Sanders insane -- I'll have to leave.  No idea where I'D go.  My fiance is ok with Switzerland, which seems ever more appealing. We'll see how their elections go.  

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 07:59 | 6681462 kinley
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My personal definitions: you are LIBERAL when the business affects SOMEONE ELSE, but CONSERVATIVE when the business affects YOU!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:53 | 6676886 debtor of last ...
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This time your neighbours to the west will join you haus. Give me back my grandfathers bicycle and your front is my front.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:29 | 6677016 walküre
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the muzzies drive European unification much quicker than anyone or anything else

united we stand, divided we fall

the enemy is ISLAM

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:48 | 6677075 CoonT
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Naw. The enemies are the meddling neocon, and the appeasing liberal.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 02:09 | 6678384 Ace006
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All of the above.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 18:55 | 6677288 Freddie
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Look at Ireland/N Ireland.   Hundreds of years of Catholics and Protestants killing each other.  It finally ends and the zoligarch elites start flooding them with Muslims.  What a waste.  White Chritsians murdering each other for ever now rolling out the red carpet for Islamics.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 19:56 | 6677459 Razor_Edge
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That's a distortion Freddie. It wasn't as such Catholic and Protestant. It was native Irish against Scottish settlers that the English imported here. They happened to be Catholic natives and Protestant settlers respectively.

Furthermore, the Brits forced the Irish off their lands to make places for the settlers. It was imperialism pure and simple. The religious element was simply used by the Brits for their own nebulous ends.

The Catholics identified as Irish and the Prods identified as British, and that was still largely true at least up until recently. So it was really a Nationalist/Loyalist conflict, each party having their own religious identity historically. But it was always about Irish nationhood v British nationhood/identity.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 02:18 | 6678388 Ace006
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Thanks. That's interesting. His point major point was that a nasty conflict finally ended to have a new horror (casually) foisted on the people. One much worse than the old one.A tragedy every where else but here especially for that reason.

Especially tragic too in the European countries that have had direct experience with Muslim armies and rule. Just n/a, I guess.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 22:22 | 6677921 Zoomorph
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But will our government? That's the big question....

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 03:42 | 6678460 Haus-Targaryen
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haha 

I love it when the Germans and Netherlands play each other in soccer.  We enivitably see a "Geef ons terug onze fietsen" -- makes us laugh every time.  

I think the best reply I've seen to date was translated something like: 

"Your bicycles!? Everyone knows the Netherlands is just the 19. Bundesstaat (behind Austria & Ibiza)"

I would love to see a Hanseatic/Teutonic Union with the following members:

- Germany
- Austria
- Flanders (fuck the Waloons)
- Denmark
- Lux
- Sweden
- Finnland

With the goals of integrating Norway if they want to come along, and Poland & the Czech Republic if they can get their shit together.  

 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 12:44 | 6679440 Divine
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I have been dreaming of this Hansa league for a long time too! I think Estonia would be ok as well, atleast there are no migrants there - as they have next to no social benefits.

mit freundlichen Grüssen aus Finnland! Schöne Wochenende

 

 

 

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:16 | 6676936 JimmyRainbow
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agree absolutely. another point: what will hapen if more are shot?

what will happen to the common sense

and, if there are crazies among the migrants doing something stupid against germans, that thing will explode.

laws of statistics, send 100, the chance for a crazy are low.

send one million, a good chance for some crazies.

another point: germans are trained to think of people on welfare as dumb nodoers, by doing so the state can cut welfare.

that story is spun so that labour costs are kept low. the real reason, no work due to hitech automation is never in discussion.

so, you have millions of germans on welfare and then you add strangers which get the same welfare for just coming in.

a lot of envy and germans love envy and they love to enrage on envy.

having trouble to describe it in english, it is something like all the msm about syria falling apart.

the complete msm story about welfare, austerity to  get jobs and start the economy is falling apart.

additionally: former east germany is redneck land. they punish strangers to near dead on a regular basis all nights. it is not reported, but it is better not to go out at night as a lone turk or whatever in east germany. sorry, dont do it.

when lefty germans try to help that given turk they are hit too, and the eastern guys and ladies threaten one with dead in such cases. and all few weeks someone dies.

a coloured person burnt to death handcuffed in a cell in east germany and the trial found he burned himself and no police officer noticed it......

sorry, but what merkel does is playing with fire.

the right wing in germany is enraged. they might take over because the leftist are used to talk (words have more power than swords and such idiotic stuff) while the right wing is trained in fierce bloody slaughtering.

all that let me think: we get the same treatment here like all around the mediterranean : raise inner friction till the society rips apart.

all that refugee stuff is no random event.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:41 | 6677056 Dugald
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raise inner friction till the society rips apart.   

Hier kommen die Braunhemden
Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:25 | 6677004 RiverRoad
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The Germans (and their bankers) want all those low-wage workers.  There will never ever be any wage inflation in Germany now.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 19:38 | 6677395 RagnarRedux
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Eventually, "The Lion gets up and tears the shit out of everything, runs like the wind, eats everything in its path!" The Jackals and Hyenas better beware.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Yszp3SmxE

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 01:56 | 6678372 Ace006
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@Haus-Targaryen.

It must be very deeply hidden. I have seen video of some Slovakian rightists and they were pissed. The AntiFa scum didn't dare tangle with them.

I don't see anything similar with Germans. I hope you are right but I fear most European men are too passive. Muslims spit in their faces and they do nothing.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:28 | 6676763 Stuck on Zero
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Merkel?  All Western leaders seem to have gone nihilist.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:08 | 6676634 SafelyGraze
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instead of refugeeing northwest, these desperate people should head in the opposite direction to our country, where they, and their faith, will be warmly accepted.

hugs,
[redacted] "bibi" [redacted] 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:13 | 6676663 viahj
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the final act of the collapse of the West has begun.  population chaos through unfettered immigration will destroy the fabric of society both in Europe and the US.  governements will let if fester into violance and then they will clamp down with their militarized police forces.  liberty is a waning light in this world.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 02:27 | 6678398 Ace006
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The US is besotted with foreigners and minorities. White people are indifferent to being taken over. Mostly. They swoon over alternative energy, Icelandic butter, and gluten-free everything.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:15 | 6676680 NoVa
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Don't worry - It's all Good.  House of Saud will pay for all the Mosques that will need to be built for these muzzie migrants.

 

NoVa

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 21:52 | 6677835 rbg81
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Eventually, the EU is going to have to do like Bulgaria and start shooting these migrants.  Not all, or even many, but enough to make an example.  Otherwise, it's never going to stop.  If they lack the stomach for it, then they will be totally overrun.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 02:36 | 6678405 Ace006
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Exactly, exactly, exactly.

The EU wants to beg Erdobegone to do it for them but they themselves need to stop immigration with deadly force. Yes, yes. Warnings galore but eventually, for those who have contempt for the warnings, lethal force.

The flow will stop cold in a week.

This is not difficult.

It is also a deadly struggle. The killing is just delayed with the present European weakness.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:56 | 6676550 JamaicaJim
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yeeeeeeahhhhh.....

herd the motherfuckers there....let them eat shit.....fucking cowards

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:40 | 6676836 thesonandheir
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I wanted to go to Oktoberfest this year (last year was great) but was put off by the rather large amount of transient muslims in the vicinity. Didn't fancy coming out of the fest worse for wear (as last year) and being mugged by a gang of refugees.

 

Shame.

Mon, 10/19/2015 - 08:05 | 6684437 luckylongshot
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If Merkel believed in solidarity she would have consulted with her EU partners before heading off on her open door crusade. She has behaved like a classic dictator, making a decision without consulting her partners and then (in a stunning act of hypocrisy) calling for solidarity when they refuse to support her. Furthermore Merkel appears to have forgotten that she was elected (and is paid) by the German people to act in their best interests. This means she has seriously broken her obligation to the German people through her actions. What she should have done is encouraged a collective and collaborative dialogue with her EU partners before she made any decisions on this issue. Time for her to go. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:46 | 6676477 Son of Loki
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Hans und Franz can kiss their Heidi bye before Abdul and Mohammed kidnap her for thier Harem.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:46 | 6676479 knuppel
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Self imposed disaster by Merkel.

 

Strange things happening now though; France bombing alongside Russia in Syria, and France trainign with China in north european seas. May be part as German mouth piece.

 

 

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:52 | 6676524 monk27
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Merkel's gratuitous stupidity must come as a real shocker for a lot of Germans. Turns out they had no clue whom they've been voting as "master of Europe" for all these years...

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:54 | 6676531 Ward no. 6
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i am sure she is regretting it

i think it all started out with that palestinian girl who cried when she asked merkel if she could stay...

and the world responded negatively to Merkel for her reply to the girl

so she changed her tune

and now will paying for this the rest of her life

 

 

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:29 | 6676771 ThirdWorldNut
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Of course she is regretting it. </sarc>

Are you even for real? Go back to cnn and bbc, noob.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:31 | 6676780 knuppel
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Yeah that was a funny moment, however that girl was already here to stay, she was crying over some other kids or osmething.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:33 | 6677025 walküre
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real girlz don't cry?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:34 | 6676803 o r c k
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Entire civilizations, gone with the wind.  Like Sweden. Rape capital Sweden. Slum Sharia Sweden.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:56 | 6676896 Pure Evil
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Where's Larrs to call all of us bigoted redneck racists while his country of origin is being overrun by bigoted islamic religionists that would chop his head off for being an infidel if they got the chance.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:47 | 6676489 the6thBook
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It's an invasion.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:04 | 6676921 green888
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Nostrodamus predicted this invasion

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:13 | 6676960 Bush Baby
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Vote Trump or the USA faces the same fate

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:20 | 6676987 Pure Evil
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What are you talking about.

The US has been under invasion since the early 80's.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 18:09 | 6677133 ThirdWorldNut
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you can noy say anything more moronic. ZH has been invaded by sheep.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 22:26 | 6677937 Zoomorph
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At least Trump will deport some of them instead of giving them all permanent citizenship. What alternative is there other than armed revolt?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:49 | 6676500 yogibear
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Good! Merkel is a globalist.

How long will it be before her people rise up and push  a nationalist in power?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:55 | 6676539 Spivmeister
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I´m one of her people and what you wrote, frightens the crap out of me, because it is exactly what I am worried about.

We are being pushed so far left that one day a little Austrian "artist" pops up again and tries to  even the game..again.

Seen it, done it, bought the t-shirt and once is enough.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:13 | 6676622 Haus-Targaryen
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Du hast ja Recht ...

I will tell you though, a nationalist running the country that doesn't want to exterminate the most productive people in the country & attempt to take invade Russia -- would likey be a great thing for Germany. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:19 | 6676698 Spivmeister
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Bin bei Dir, das Problem ist nur dass die Medien gekauft sind und der Normalo volkommen verblödet ist. Was soll man sonst, als liberal Konservativer machen als,...Fresse halten?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:34 | 6676797 Haus-Targaryen
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Fresse halten ist GENAU das Problem.  Zu viele Leute bleiben still.  Leider müssen wir hier Englisch sprechen -- meine deutsche Posts sind oft gelöscht.

If I were you -- go to local Union/FDP meetings and speak up.  Be a completely normal person and essentially say this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwMVMbmQBug

I am an American, so I can get away with saying a bit more than most Germans feel comfortable with.  I can *promise* you -- there are more people that think like you at the Union FDP meetings than people that think differently.  The reason things are the way they are -- is people don't want to deal with that uncomfortable feeling and speak their mind for fear of being called a Nazi or racist.  

And you know what -- if you stand up and speak, and someone shouts Nazi or Racist at you -- tell them literally "Halt dein verfickte Fresser ... when ever people like you throw out those words -- you are trying to end a conversation you cannot win.  You are trying to censor everyone's speech -- not encourage a healthy debate, which is what every good demoracy is built upon." 

You would likely get a standing ovation. I tell my fiance all the time -- she needs to go to her SPD meetings, stand up and say we need to be social to the poor people in Germany before we import a million more. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:56 | 6676894 Spivmeister
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Again, I can´t disagree with anything you say.  But being an American, you surely know that anything I write here will be held against me.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:33 | 6677026 Haus-Targaryen
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Only if you let it ....

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:25 | 6676747 PresidentCamacho
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Merkel Needs to die.
The World needs a strong and INDEPENDENT Germany.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:45 | 6676859 Haus-Targaryen
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I don't wish death on anyone except for Soros and Kissinger. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 19:52 | 6677443 BarkingCat
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She's screwing up much of Europe. She needs to depart on her feet or feet first.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:49 | 6677081 Dugald
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Seen it, done it, bought the t-shirt and once is enough.

Nein , mein Freund , werden Sie erleben die Geschichte wiederholt, .....
Sat, 10/17/2015 - 02:42 | 6678414 Ace006
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Nationalist does not = Hitler.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:34 | 6677032 RiverRoad
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Merkel is a globalist bankster.  There fixed it for you.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 02:40 | 6678412 Ace006
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40 years.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:49 | 6676504 buzzsaw99
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owebomber wants germany to be overrun like the usa. the immigrant preznit.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:50 | 6676514 yogibear
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Obummer knows the best way to destroy a country is from within. 

Working out very well.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:59 | 6676563 semperfi
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he just wants to golf - its his bosses who are ordering this done

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:39 | 6677047 TuPhat
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Just because his boss ordered it doesn't mean Obama doesn't want it.  You would be more correct to say Obama wants to golf and destroy the Us.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:51 | 6676507 atthelake
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Jihad by immigration.

See Political Islam on Youtube

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:11 | 6676647 justdues
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Viktor Orban for President of my country too ! Viktor should chanel Vlad "the impaler" Tepes, he knew how to deal with circumcissionist invaders

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 19:55 | 6677452 BarkingCat
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Vlad did it quite well in Romania.
Until the 18th century Poland did the Muslim on the stick thing as well. Amazing how those that were on the frontier of the muslim invasion shared such an effective method.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 04:15 | 6678489 Ace006
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Are the Jews invading AGAIN?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:50 | 6676509 divedivedive
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But Syria is in Asia. Germany has as much responsibility to these refugees as does Australia, the US and Canada. Where is the UN humanitarian relief ? Isn't there an international Red Cross ?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:57 | 6676554 semperfi
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the good guys have all vanished - all we have left are the bad guys - right now the world sucks

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:11 | 6676649 Anopheles
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They should all follow the great humanitarion lead of Iceland.  That wonderful country has committed to take in 50 refugees this year, and so far have let in 3......

 

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:03 | 6676920 Pure Evil
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That was 3 too many.

Depending upon their immigration policies those 3 can now petition to have their family come in and from there it starts avalanching.

As soon as each new family member arrives they can then petition other family members. Now do you see the avalanche?

Anyway, that's how it works in the good ole US of A with what's called family reunification.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 19:56 | 6677458 BarkingCat
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3 too many.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:41 | 6677050 RiverRoad
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Everyone knows that this mess was fomented by the CIA, so why should the International Red Cross give a fuck?

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 04:36 | 6678497 Ace006
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The Red Cross and Wal Mart are CIA fronts.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:51 | 6676515 JenkinsLane
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Fuck the EU and fuck Merkel - she acts as though she is the Emperor of Europe.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:16 | 6676661 Mike Masr
Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:09 | 6676935 Pure Evil
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She's just taking after her mulatto master Obombya.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:56 | 6676542 Zero-Hegemon
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This is what the islam-schluss looks like

It's worse than Hulkamania, brother

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:55 | 6676543 SmittyinLA
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the EU free trade union* 

*comes with Islamic Caliph (no substitutions)

"Union" like soviet union except soviet union no more, commies booted to curb

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:58 | 6676558 yomutti
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These people should all be sent back immediately to Syria.

If they refuse, offer them Somalia instead.

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:09 | 6676637 Anopheles
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Funny how all these people aren't trying to get into other islamic countries.....  

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:29 | 6676764 Obamamerica
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No need to invade other Mooslim countries. They need to expand the Caliphate. Allahu Akbar!

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 00:39 | 6678274 StychoKiller
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Maybe they're allergic to sand...

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:00 | 6676571 Cacete de Ouro
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Merkel is a card-carrying puppet member of the Coudenhove-Kalergi puppet masters society:

http://golden-dawn-international-newsroom.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-coude...

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:02 | 6676591 SmittyinLA
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Muslims countries will never impede Muslim immigration (hard to imagine for Jews-sarc)

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:02 | 6676592 22winmag
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When you get in bed with NATO you wake up with fleas.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 04:39 | 6678499 Ace006
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Good one.

When will Japan join NATO I wonder?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:04 | 6676604 Stevious
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“Spiritually, Islam was never part of Europe. It's the rulebook of another world.”

That says it all.  It's the way it has been for many centuries and it will stay that way.

I'm not yet dead-set and I'm open to alternatives but as I see it it's fairly clear.  Moderate Muslims who change from minority into majority tend to move to a "cut the heads off Infidels."

I fear that this is the end of Europe, as we know it, already.

I don't particularly like the giant spires of Catholic churches where I live, but at least the Catholics, who condemn non-believers to hell don't actuallly try to physically send them there.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:02 | 6676916 lincolnsteffens
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Catholics used to burn witches, heathens and those that spoke against orthodox doctrine. History repeats itself.

Sun, 10/25/2015 - 13:34 | 6678503 Ace006
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Luther and Copernicus should NEVER have been burned.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:07 | 6676628 cougar_w
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In 5 years we'll be reading about how the 6 million Muslims that were eventually allowed into Germany never did assimilate, they have become resentful of the broken German promise for jobs and welfare, don't feel like their faith is welcome, don't understand why they have to follow German laws concerning due process when Allah commands it, and are marching and protesting in the streets wondering why they ever came to Germany in the first place.

It's predictable because that is what has been happening in France for a decade.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:27 | 6676756 Obamamerica
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Close...but actually in 40 years the Mooslims in Europe will be the Majority as they have like 10 kids per family vs. 1.2 in Europe. Then the Rothschild/Soro's clan can push for the Mooslimification of greater Europe to push back against Russia. There will be Crescents all over the govt buildings in Europe by 2050. Guaranteed

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:06 | 6676923 cougar_w
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Oh absolutely. And maybe not even 40 years either. Though to be fair to the Germans I don't think opening or not opening the doors to the refugees now would have made any difference in the longer run. The Muslims would have simply flooded all corners of Europe anyway, by foot or horse or rubber raft, by any and all means possible, by the uncounted millions and tens of millions. There is not enough water between Turkey and any part of Europe proper to keep the hordes out, and the hordes have made a complete mess of their own nest (with copious assistance from the West, how ironic) have over-shot carrying capacity, strip-mined everything, and now they are only too happy to leave exactly as they did the last time they over ran Europe.

Maybe the Russians will hold them back. Maybe the Russian winter itself will do the trick, I think it might.

But Europe -- no. Europe will eventually become a part of the Muslim story.

Again.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 20:02 | 6677481 BarkingCat
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The flooding at the corners only works when those countries allow it. It did not work a 100 years ago because people protected their homeland.

See previous reference to Vlad the Impaler

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 04:49 | 6678507 Ace006
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Precisely. S. Koreans don't take over NK because the Great Leader doesn't want them to.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 20:23 | 6677539 silverer
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The Germans need to get over their guilt and defend themselves.  They have a right to do it.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 05:03 | 6678522 Ace006
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The German guilt explanation for their failure to do something is unconvincing to me. I don't feel guilty because of anything FDR or HT did, including putting Japanese Americans into those camps, nuking Japan, turning China over to the commies, or keelhauling Soviet POWs and DPs.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 05:12 | 6678533 Haus-Targaryen
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You haven't spent time in Germany then.  

The German guilt affets *every* decision the German government makes.  It is 100% of the German politically correct movement, and like the "racist" card in the US is -- is the fallback for the Left here in Germany to get everyone to do what they want.  

The interesting thing about German guilt -- on an individual level it is essentially close to zero.  Put 2 Germans in the same place -- and it starts to manifest itself.  

Sun, 10/25/2015 - 13:52 | 6709235 Ace006
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Thanks.  It's a mysterious dynamic.  Germans, no more than other people, are not uniform.  It is not a unique German fault that people who acquired power were capable of cruelty.  Also, I know of individual acts of kindness on the part of German troops, and individual accounts I've read of service in the Wehrmacht on the Eastern Front reveal personalities and attitudes identical to those I saw in the American army. 

<em>Berlin Diaries, 1940-1945</em> by Marie Vassiltchikov writes about many decent Germans.  I deplore the incessant characterization of Germans as Nazis in Hollywood and am distressed that Germans themselves do not demand that the obvious distinctions be made and that the focus be on what happens when government becomes too powerful and freedom is lost.  It's a constitutional problem not a problem of the German personality.  The Chinese and the Khmer Rouge were also frightful but Chinese and Cambodians don't spend valuable time thinking of ways to affirm their innate evil.

When those two Germans get together it appears that it is not acceptable to distinguish between individuals. 

And in the meantime the SA street fighters return but they have a new name -- AntiFa.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 04:51 | 6678510 Ace006
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The Europeans have heard of Mr. Gatling, I'm told.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:55 | 6677096 El Vaquero
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IMO, this is going to break the social fabric in Europe to the point that you would not want to be a Muslim in Europe long before 2050 arrives. 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 05:11 | 6678532 Ace006
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That's right. This is not a static world. I'm amazed that Westerners didn't rise up 20 or 55 years ago, let alone 30 days ago.

Still there's been repression and as much bullshit as Hollywood and the MSM could serve up on an hourly basis. But when we all wake up it will be with a fury as righteous as the lies and repression were malicious.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:11 | 6676952 Pure Evil
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If you want to see Germany's future just take a close look at Sweden.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:44 | 6677063 RiverRoad
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And what happens when all these "immigrants" vote?????

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 05:12 | 6678535 Ace006
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And, of course, we MUST give them citizenship because we are saps.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:45 | 6676653 Mike Masr
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The EU ECB cabal should order Merkel to turn Ukraine into a huge refugee camp with Poroshenko as Col Klink. Why not? Ukraine is a failed state, banana republic!! 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:46 | 6677072 RiverRoad
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And the UN should be moved to Yemen where it might do the world some good for a change (instead of partying their heads off in NYC).

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 20:10 | 6677503 BarkingCat
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Ukraine has problems because of they were a Soviet republic then now NATO has decided to fuck with them.
It would actually be entertaining to see Right Sector see a new enemy and go after them.
They might not be able to conquer the rebels in the east but I am quite sure that any refugee center would be a burning inferno very quickly with no one getting out.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 05:15 | 6678540 Ace006
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No. France and Sweden are the failed states of Europe.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:27 | 6676689 XitSam
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This left out that the Afghan killed was in a group of about 50 and they had guns.

Update: looking at news reports today, they were either armed, had no weapons, or no report. They were aggressive, or peaceful asylum seekers that did not obey border guards. Yesterday reports were he was killed by a direct shot or ricochet, today reports (all sourced from the government) killed by a ricochet from warning shots. So much for accuracy in news. Not that I had any in the first place.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:23 | 6676727 Obamamerica
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Thunderdome!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:25 | 6676741 Obamamerica
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I heard Paul Ryan and the RINO Estabishment want to import 5-10 million Mooslim migrants to fill the IT jobs American's just won't do. Allahu Akbar

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:48 | 6677076 RiverRoad
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Sure. Sure. And why not?  That'll keep minimum wage down forever.....

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