Guest Post: The False East/West Paradigm And The End Of Freedom

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Submitted by Brandon Smith via Alt-Market.com,

People are desperate for leaders and heroes. This is an undeniable condition of human life and of human civilization. Some historians and social observers, however, seem to think it is enough to simply point out this condition and pretend as if they have made some grand declaration; as if they have come to the root of the problem of mankind. In their laziness, they have mistaken a symptom for the cause.

Why do people so often demand leaders and heroic figures? What drives the institutionalization of hierarchy, celebrity and geopolitical idolization? I believe this condition is caused by three factors – fear, ignorance, and apathy.

This is not to say that there are not people throughout history that are worth looking up to, or that looking up to a particular hero figure is wrong. Heroes and sometimes leaders can act as points of reference, helping us to aspire to greater personal accomplishment and extraordinary achievement. The problem is many historical figures labeled heroic are in fact monsters in masks paraded as saviors by history writers with agendas. Real heroes (in the past hundred years in particular) are most often unsung, and remain little known.

This is why the idolization of puppet leaders is so disturbing to those of us in the Liberty Movement. We witnessed the blind militancy of the so-called “right wing” in the support of George W. Bush after 9/11, only to be led into quagmire, economic despair, and a surveillance state based on numerous lies. We then had to witness the insane cult-like fervor of the so-called “left wing” as Barack Obama took office, only to continue and accelerate the same draconian policies of the Bush Administration while conjuring new methods for the division and destruction of American society and prosperity.

Yes, the Liberty Movement has examined every detail and is well versed in the horrors of the false Left/Right paradigm. Again, I'll have to quote the ever useful elitist member of the Council on Foreign Relations and mentor to former president Bill Clinton, Carroll Quigley, on this particular issue, from his book 'Tragedy And Hope':

...The argument of two parties should represent opposed ideas and policies, one perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinate and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can “throw the rascals out” at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy. The policies that are vital and necessary for America are no longer subjects of significant disagreement, but are disputable only in details of procedure, priority, or method.”

What truly disturbs me is that our movement can be so awake and aware of the false left/right paradigm while remaining astonishingly naïve and short sighted when it comes to the false East/West paradigm. And once again, I have to attribute this naivety to a desperation for heroes caused by fear and apathy.

I have written on the reality that Eastern political interests are just as controlled by globalists as Western political interests for years. Readers can review the considerable amount of data and evidence I have collected on Russia and Vladimir Putin in particular and the ties between the East and international financiers and well known globalists in recent articles such as 'Russia Is Dominated By Global Banks, Too', 'False East/West Paradigm Hides The Rise Of Global Currency', and 'The New World Order And The Rise Of The East'.

In fact, I predicted almost every aspect of the current Syrian crisis based on the knowledge that the East versus West dynamic was purely an engineered conflict designed to diminish American power and economic influence through the use of planned chaos, and I did this years before events were ever triggered in the region.

I knew what was about to happen in Syria only because I understood one important fundamental – that there are no “sides” in any modern conflict, only proxies fighting on a global chessboard controlled by the same elitist interests. Syria represented a perfect catalyst for a planetary scale conflict triggered between East and West in a way that could divert attention from internationalists. Modern war, whether through kinetics or economics, is almost always theater designed to distract and terrorize the masses, which are the true target of any conflagration.

We must set aside childish assumptions on war. Wars are not about resources. They are not about territory. They are not about the hegemony of any particular nation state. If you buy into such notions, you have been duped. No, war is about something much bigger. War first and foremost is a tool for the manipulation and molding of public psychology. As Edward Bernays, the father of modern propaganda said:

The great enemy of any attempt to change men's habits is inertia. Civilization is limited by inertia.”

War is meant to forcefully change the “inertia” of civilization, and thus, forcefully change the direction of civilization in a manner that benefits the engineers of the conflict.

One great threat to the mechanism of globalism and the elites behind it is the liberty movement, which is slowly but steadily growing in popularity and influence as America edges ever closer to economic and sociopolitical oblivion. As the U.S. is homogenized, harmonized, and brought down to third world status for the benefit of a one-world system, resistance continues to grow.

You see, one negative side-effect of the rush towards centralization and a single global power (often referred to by the elites as the “New World Order”) is that the harder the globalists push society toward their Utopian ideal, the more individuals (not controlled governments or political puppets) wake up to the threat. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. The Liberty Movement is the equalizing reaction to forced globalization.

In order for the elites to neutralize the threat we present, they must either destroy us or co-opt us. I believe the East/West paradigm is being used in part to attempt the co-option of liberty elements.

Despite the fact that many liberty analysts are beginning to understand the nature of the false East/West paradigm and the truth behind the rise of Russia, the predictable escalation in Syria is energizing a strange brand of Putin-worship once again. Liberty elements WANT to believe that Putin is somehow in opposition to globalization, that he is somehow morally superior to the Obama Administration, and that Russia is on the side of right in the fight against ISIS and the evil Western empire.

They want to believe this because they are afraid – they are afraid that they are alone in the fight against the NWO. They are afraid that they will have to commit to personal sacrifice and struggle against a vastly technologically superior opponent. They are afraid that they alone will have to take responsibility for America's destiny and that no great leader on a white horse is coming to blaze the path ahead of them.

Because of this fear, they sometimes commit the crime of cognitive dissonance in order to protect their false belief in a heroic Putin. They will ignore the fact that Putin is a long time friend of Henry Kissinger, the most publicly vocal proponent of the “New World Order, and that Putin describes Kissinger as his “trusted foreign policy adviser”.

They will ignore the fact that Russia's primary economic adviser is none other than the hitman of the international banking syndicate, Goldman Sachs, and that Goldman Sachs has been deeply involved in Russia's economic affairs since at least 1992, just after the fall of the Soviet Union.

They will ignore the fact that Putin and Russia have allied closely with the IMF (an institution supposedly dominated by the U.S.). Putin and the IMF are so intertwined that it was Putin who demanded that the IMF take over the management of Ukraine's finances after the regional crisis began, and, it was the IMF that blatantly supported Putin's call for a change in Ukraine's bond status from private to “official”. Russia also demanded that Ukraine's debts be repaid in Special Drawing Rights, the global currency basket which the IMF plans to use to replace the U.S. dollar as the world reserve mechanism.

They will also surely ignore the fact that Putin and the Kremlin have on multiple occasion called for the IMF to take over global management of the worlds financial systems through the implementation of the SDR as the new world reserve currency.

And of course, the fact that Russia is a member of the Bank for International Settlements and the BIS is the policy dictator of ALL central banking (do I really need to quote Carroll Quigley on the BIS yet again?) does not bode well for the affiliations and intentions of Russia as a whole, yet we are still bombarded in the liberty movement with platitudes on how Putin is “sticking it to the bankers”. No, I'm afraid not. According to the evidence, Putin is just like Obama: Yet another whore for the internationalists. Post all the pictures you want of the guy holding an uzi or finishing a judo throw, but his public persona does not fit reality.

The mainstream media in the U.S. has for the most part run on the narrative that Putin is the next Stalin, and if you are going to perpetuate a false East/West paradigm this makes perfect sense. But there is also a separate narrative being presented to the liberty movement and the rest of the world.

The talking points coming out of outlets like RT (Russia Today), a media machine controlled by the Russian government, has for the past few years stolen brilliant observations by American liberty proponents and repackaged them as video fluff. Most of these observations are negative in their view of U.S. government policy as well as central banking dictatorship, and they are also entirely correct. The problem is, RT does not apply the same standards of journalistic skepticism to the Russian government or its ties to the central banking cabal.

Time Magazine publishes pro-Putin articles naming him “man of the year” in every other nation where they have distribution, but removes these stories and covers when publishing in America.

The general American public is being sold on the idea that Putin is a calculating danger to global stability and that Western governments must become more aggressive to counter the threat. The rest of the world and the liberty movement are being sold on the image of a benevolent Putin and a Russia standing firm against the corrupt war machine of the West, but this image simply is not real.

The danger for the liberty movement in the near future is considerable. Our blind support of the false East/West paradigm makes us vulnerable to easy co-option, for if we as a movement are tricked into closely affiliating with Russia then we lose our identity as a force for American independence and become nothing more than an “Eastern created” faux revolution. Think it can't happen? Mainstream media outlets are ALREADY building the narrative. The Atlantic was the first, with an article directly connecting “right wing” movements and “conspiracy theorists” in the U.S. with Russian influence and propaganda.

As the false East/West confrontation grows, the real purpose of such a crisis will become apparent. ISIS agents conveniently shipped out of Syria among millions of "refugees" before Russian forces finally decided to strike will wreak havoc in Western nations. Economic chaos will become prevalent.  The U.S. will lose the dollar's petro-status as the East subsumes Eurasia.  Fear of another world war will haunt public perception. The ever uneducated and terrified mass majority will become far less tolerant of intelligent dissent. And, the Fabian Socialists infesting global institutions will suggest a clever solution to the problem they created - the dissolution of all sovereign nations and the complete centralization of governance into the hands of a select few to save humanity from such destructive divisions.

If you understand that a primary goal of globalists is to fully remove constitutional protections in America and assert a totalitarian framework, then you have to admit that a conflict with Russia is an excellent opportunity for them.  War fever makes men delirious and malleable, and outside threats make internal despotism more tolerable.

In the meantime, if the liberty movement refuses to treat Russia with the same x-ray vision it has used against western governments (a Russia clearly working with international financiers and globalist institutions) then we make it far easier for the elitist propaganda machine to paint us as Eastern backed traitors rather than freedom fighters down the road, thus crushing our chances at garnering increased support from the public and awakening new voices.

Mark my words, in the end we will not only be forced to rebel against centralization under our own criminal government; we will also have to rebel against criminal puppet governments everywhere. I have no doubt that when we see the ranks of the globalist enemy, there will be Russian faces standing right alongside Western oligarchs. Maybe then people will finally admit that the East/West crisis was a carefully crafted hoax all along.

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TeamDepends's picture

If Putin was a good guy, he would be shaking Kissingers' neck.

Zirpedge's picture

Heinz' neck is ripe for a delousing. It's true, Russian and western interests are driven by the same one world ambition that culminate in a new dark age. "Neofeudalism"

J S Bach's picture

"...in the end we will not only be forced to rebel against centralization under our own criminal government; we will also have to rebel against criminal puppet governments everywhere."

Good points.  But, the "criminal governments" are merely the playthings of the money power.  What we must "rebel against" is the usury money system.  ALL nations must abandon debt-based currency and return to honest debt-free money.  And wherever the snake's head and all of its adherents appears, it must be smashed utterly.

conscious being's picture

What's Brandon's opinion on debt-free money?

Implied Violins's picture

He's written favorably about Ron Paul, and is big into gold and silver, so there's that.

fudge's picture

I also can write a lot of things, that should not be taken as a belief in what I write. Bernays and Freud were both big on deception.

messymerry's picture

There is a good rule of thumb on this:

You don't take advantage of strangers,

You for sure don't take advantage of friends, and

You for damn sure don't take advantage of family,,,

Enemies on the other hand, you take every possible advantage.

;-D   

strannick's picture

Sorry.

Bullshit. Syria is real.

A few comments about the IMF doesnt change that

conscious being's picture

So there's the contest. Sound Money vs. Bankster Money Magic. Brandon seems to be saying there is no contest. Over and over again too.

runningman18's picture

He's saying there's no contest between nations, but there is a contest between the banksters and the rest of us.

conscious being's picture

And I'm happy to see that Vlad appears to me to be in the process of trying.

So Brandon says their is a battle between the banks and the rest of us, but Putin cannot plausably be opposed to the banksters because ... Why? I don't understand that part of the argument. By his actions, he seems to be driving them out and stopping their programs, ie. No more Soros NGOs, ISIS, etc. By what logic is this secretly helping the global elite?

Even way back in the Roman Republic, there were two paths for an elite to get his way. One, the most common was to colude with other elites, senators for example. The other approach was to go directly to the less exhalted in the Forum and claim that the Forum, representing the people's will took precedent.

The Brandon, Their-All-In-It-Together argument reminds of that Fukuyama guy and the End of History.

runningman18's picture

Why?  Because Putin refuses to go after said bankers, in fact, he works directly with them.  If Vlad was really working against the bankers then he would openly denounce the IMF and BIS instead of partnering with them, and he wouldn't have Goldman Sachs (fucking Goldman Sachs!) advising him and Russia on their economic policies and "investment potential".  Seems pretty simple to me.  Why shouldn't we hold Putin up to the same scrutiny as we do our own politicians?

conscious being's picture

All in due time my friend. These people, his adversaries are ruthless and dangerous. Best to step carefully and wack one hornets nest at a time, instead of all at once?

Russia is under sanctions. Russia wants Western money via the IMF to pass thru Ukraine and pay Russia for gas. Under the circumstances, a logical approach by Russia. I'm not aware of any other IMF / Russian activities. Are you? Attacking the dollar is attacking the CB BIS system. Via various means, can you see that Russia is attacking the dollar sytem?

As far as holding Putin up to scrutiny. Fine. I think he's doing a fantastic job. Don't you?

runningman18's picture

Actually, the IMF and the globalists want the dollar to be derailed to make way for the SDR as the world reserve.  They've been planning it for decades:

https://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2014/07/26/flashback-1988-get-read...

This is what Henry Kissinger (adviser to Putin) said about global harmonization:

"In the end, the political and economic systems can be harmonized in only one of two ways: by creating an international political regulatory system with the same reach as that of the economic world; or by shrinking the economic units to a size manageable by existing political structures, which is likely to lead to a new mercantilism, perhaps of regional units. A new Bretton Woods kind of global agreement is by far the preferable outcome…"

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/henry-kissinger-the-wor...

The dollar as a world reserve could not exist in Kissinger's perfect economic world.  The east west popcorn movie creates a great rationale for the death of the dollar.  As far as Russian/IMF activities go, I think the Kremlin calling for the IMF to take over administration of the global monetary system is enough to raise eyebrows:

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/business/article/at-g20-kremlin-to-pitch-n...

So, no, attacking the dollar is not attacking the IMF/BIS system.  They want to replace the dollar with the SDR anyway, and Putin just so happens to want the same thing, which I'm sure is all coincidence.  As far as Putin doing a fantastic job, I guess it depends on your perspective.  He's definitely doing a great job working with Goldman Sachs and the IMF...

roccman's picture

Very insightful comments.

You appear to get the global 2 step.

ConfederateH's picture

It is hard enough for Russia to financially fight the ZOG US alone.  One of her best options is to try to divide the west by fracturing Nato and pealing Europe away.   If Putin went after the financial jugular of the entire west without discrimination, namely IMF and BIS, he would make the entire financial world his enemy.  Besides, the IMF and BIS may be making special concessions/bribes to Russia for going along with steps. 

This does not mean the Goldman owns Putin the way they do Obama, and BS making statements about GS's raping of Russia in 1992 means that Putin is still a puppet on their string just don't fly.

So Putin has to keep chiseling away.  He does it under the watchful eye of NWO, but that doesn't mean he is their vassal, as say Belgium or Switzerland are.

BS also constantly presents the NWO as some king of timeless and monolithic team.  Its not.  Even if we as assume the NWO is 100% Rothschiild controlled, there would be struggles between family members that lead to world wars and financial crisises.

 

roccman's picture

The Rothschild are a part of the slave class.

Panopticon 131's picture

That's some ratonalizaton process there.  It overlooks the historical fact that we learned a long time ago from Professor Antony Sutton's meticulous research that the apex globalists in the west financed and otherwise aided the rise of the Bolshevik revolution and continued doing so through the Soviet Union, including a generous transfer of military technology to the Soviets during the Nixon administration spearheaded by then Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who happens to be an adviser to Putin.  

TPTB never relinquished control of their creations, to include Russia and China.  Moroever, an inflection point of deep state globalist capture occcurred in Russia when it's economy imploded in the mid-90s and Trilateralist and International Banker henchman extraordinaire Larry Summers was sent to Russia to advise on the privatization of public assets creating the current neofeudal system.

Meanwhile, we have Russia and China heavily invested in UN Agenda 21 and the 2030 Agenda, along with surveillance, biometric identification, smart grid, smart cities, deep economic integration with multinationals, etc.  The banksters are completing their global prison planet working on levels and generations most people could never wrap their heads around.  Never underestimate your nemeses. 

HardAssets's picture

IMO all these guys are meglo-maniacs, socio-path/psychopaths, and power mad to one degree or another. Those who paint Putin as some kind of heroic Savior are being naive. It seems to me that there are many who are resisting the post USSR hegemony of one nation - the USA - over all others. At this point, they want a more balanced global power structure. They don't want their own national sovereignty (the base for these individuals' personal power) to be undermined. - But that doesn't mean that they would not use elements of the existing legal/economic structure when pursuing their objectives. - You might also say that since Russia & China has and uses US dollars ( a bankster creation ) - that proves they are part of the bankster NWO scheme. But, it doesn't prove that at all. The US dollar has been at the heart of the global economic system since the end of WW2. To this point, nations have had to use the US dollar because that's how the current system is set up. They seem to be building a new structure less reliant on the US dollar and its associated institutions.
I thought this was a very thought provoking article - especially its warning about peoples' tendency to try to create 'heroes'. Maybe they are all working together for a NWO, but I don't think the author built a strong enough case to support that conclusion.

Just because these leaders are resisting the loss of their nation's sovereignty, doesn't mean they are libertarians wanting to free Humanity. Some people think its " all or nothing " and that isn't really the case.

HenryHall's picture

I just want to say a simple "thank you" for the thoughtful contributions to this thread.

I think/hope we can all agree that the world order could be a lot better than it is for 99+% of the world's population.

cosmyccowboy's picture

he is not saying there is no contest between natioms but that the contest you are seeing, as real as it is on the ground between the actual combattents. it is being orchestrated by the banksters. it is all scripted.sort of like pro wrestling!!! hulkamania lives on!

Overfed's picture

Neofeudalism is here and has been ever since the private ownership of land was outlawed.

Fahque Imuhnutjahb's picture

 

 

"And The End of Freedom"     http://news.yahoo.com/video-fatal-police-shooting-emerges-family-lawsuit...

This is not directly related to this piece, but I'd like to see Tyler pick it up for discussion.

If these damn bully cops aren't weeded out of the force, eventually there is gonna be

a major conflagration that will not be easily quelled.  If this kid was my son, this bully,

POS LEO would have to look over his shoulder for many moons, till one day he couldn't.

conscious being's picture

NeoKnoodleism is getting a serious whooping. Its the people vs. the banks. Right now the banks are getting a Syrias whooping. Brandon thinks otherwise. Let's see.

Winston Churchill's picture

There is something about us hairless apes that makes everything way too complicated.

Whether its organized religion,or fancifull conspiracy theories, sometimes things are much

simpler and less complex.Psychopaths do not work together in groups, its a contradiction in terms.

Very short term maybe, before they start fighting amongst themselves.Just like Highlander,

in the end there can only be one.Its their very nature.

Makes a great yarn though.

HardAssets's picture

@ Winston - + 1

If youre a meglomaniac, psychopath, and paranoid control freak - you never trust the other guy and will do anything to undermine and even get rid of him. They know who they really are - and that the other guy is just like them.

And you see 'the masses' as just stupid pawns to be used on the game board.

Carpenter1's picture

What truly disturbs me is that our movement can be so awake and aware of the false left/right paradigm while remaining astonishingly naïve and short sighted when it comes to the false East/West paradigm.

 

 

Hear that ZH'ers? Get off the "Russia and China are our saviors" bandwagon. Our enemies control the entire chessboard.

 

 

 


ZerOhead's picture

Yup... they control all the pieces on the chessboard.

 

If people don't undertstand that then they understand NOTHING

ThirteenthFloor's picture

US goes into Syria using CIA and NGO resources calls it ISIS, lies to the world that is terrorism...pretending they are good guys...trying to overthrow Assad.

Putin asks the world via the UN speech and on 60 minutes to join him in his effort to destroy ISIS, then displays an Accurate honest battle to defeat ISIS.

We are then to believe these are both fighting for the same end ... No way.

Putin kicked Rothschild banking out of Russia a few years back... He has my support.

runningman18's picture

ISIS is smoke and mirrors, a boogeyman meant to scare conservatives, meanwhile Putin works directly with the bankers that pull the strings behind our government, including Goldman Sachs and the IMF and BIS.  Putin never kicked out the Rothschilds, they own his ass, which is why he is so buddy buddy with Kissinger ...

Bro of the Sorrowful Figure's picture

i read all the articles he linked. they are dubious at best. putin himself never said he was kissinger's friend. the article saying putin was calling for the SDR didn't quote putin and only said "the kremlin" repeatedly. BS says that goldman sachs is russia's primary economic advisor, then links an article that says that they have a 3 year consulting deal. then the idea that because russia, again not putin specifically and there are no quotes from him in the linked article, recommended that ukraine get a loan from the IMF is proof that putin is part of the NWO is absurd. finally the fact that russia works with all of the western financial institutions is no proof at all that they are complitict in the NWO. at this point it is simply impossible for a country to conduct international trade without cooperating with western institutions. russia and china are, as BS fails to point out, working extremely hard to set up an alternative financial system so that institutions like the world bank and IMF become obsolete. im not really sure what brandom smith's objective is here but his "evidence" isn't convincing me at all. 

runningman18's picture

Not dubious at all.  Right on the money I would say.  Yes, Putin's press secretary said they are "old friends", but putin himself called Kissinger a "trusted foreign policy adviser" according to the New York Times.  Do you have a quote from Putin denying this claim?:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/20/world/europe/henry-kissinger-to-meet-w...

Putin is also the head of the Kremlin, guy.  If the press cites the White House as making a statement, this means Obama signed off on it.  The Kremlin does not make statements without Putin's approval. 

Smith linked to two articles, one showing that Goldman Sachs is Russias econiomic adviser today, and the other shows that Goldman Sachs has been advising Russia since 1992.  That's not a good sign.  When Obama took a bunch of former Goldman Sachs guys into his cabinet, people cried foul.  Putin shakes hands with the Goldman devil, and some of the same people blow it off:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/business/1992/02/18/russia-hires-g...

The article on Ukraine is mainstream coverage on the fact that Russia called for the IMF to take over Ukraine's finances.  Do you have evidence that contradicts this?

Why is it absurd to say that Putin working with the IMF is a sign he works with the NWO?  The IMF is a core organization for the NWO.  So is the BIS.  The BRICS banks actually works with the IMF:

http://www.iol.co.za/business/opinion/brics-bank-not-entirely-free-of-im...

If putin really was anti-banker, he would not be demanding the IMF take over in Ukraine, he would not be working with the IMF period, and the Kremlin would not be calling for the IMF to take over as some kind of central authority over the world's monetary systems.  I don't really know what it would take to "convince you" and I'm sure Smith doesn't know either, but this is not dubious evidence at all, and to claim as much borders on dishonest.  It's important information that needs to be considered instead of dismissed.

Mute Button's picture

So, Machiavelli's dictum, "Keep your friends close and keep your enemies closer" doesn't apply to Putin?

It is dubious evidence because it doesn't lead to one and only one irrefutable conclusion: that Putin is dyed in the wool NWO.

You're pretty quick to claim Putin's NWO.

runningman18's picture

Sounds like wishful thinking to me.  It's not dubious evidence because it proves that Putin does go out of his way to work with the banking elites.  His motivations are a different issue, and I can't read the guy's mind from all the way in Texas.  I don't know if he is "playing" the banksters or working for them.  As soon as someone shows me evidence that all his connections to them are a ruse, I'll be more than willing to look at it.  In the meantime, claiming a hypothetical motivation does not discredit the evidence already presented.   

Mute Button's picture

My point is that the associations are dubious evidence because the associations themselves don't reveal Putin's intentions. I know you agree with this.

You're point is that his associations with NWO shows that Putin goes out of his way to make these associations. I'll buy that...for now.

But Brandon's point is that the associations are proof positive Putin is in on it. That is dubious.

Keep your friends close and you enemies even closer.

goldsansstandard's picture

Goldman bought Russia for a few tens of billions by designing the voucher system and then lending the Chosen Oligarchs the dollars to buy up the vouchers from the desperate people.

Yeltsin was Goldman's tool.Putin played hardball with the GS Chosen , locking up the owner of the number two oil company and taking the assets..
This is not NWO approved behavior.

In addition, the BIS has been a tool against Russia through banking sanctions, not to mention the Cyprus robbery.

Bottom line, this article is complete bullshit.

runningman18's picture

And yet, Putin continues to work with Goldman and the BIS.  I guess your definition of "hardball" is a lot different from mine...

conscious being's picture

When I do a search on 'Putin Goldman Sachs', most of what shows up is different controlled media critcizing Goldman for "being unpatriotic" by buying Russian bonds. Maybe Goldman said they'd buy a bunch of bonds and be called advisors. How is Putin supposed to tell Goldman, Don't buy our bonds?

 

runningman18's picture

Goldman Sachs advises Russia on their economic policies and "investment image", and they've done this for decades. You might want to do a more detailed search:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/business/1992/02/18/russia-hires-g...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-02-06/goldman-sachs-shouldn-...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-02-05/goldman-sachs-hired-by...

"Seen against this background, the three-year agreement announced in early February that Russia's Economic Development Ministry and the Russian Direct Investment Fund had hired investment bank Goldman Sachs is rather odd. Goldman is to help set up meetings with investors, better communicate government decisions and advise Russia on its bid to attract more capital and transform Moscow into an international financial center."

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/blogs/476655/post/goldman-sachs-mission-im...

SoilMyselfRotten's picture

Yeltsin was Goldman's tool.Putin played hardball with the GS Chosen , locking up the owner of the number two oil company and taking the assets..
This is not NWO approved behavior.

 

Yes goldstandard which is why it was likely his plane was the target when MH-17 was shot down. I'm guessing Putin is being very careful these days.

runningman18's picture

I don't see where he is saying that the associations are proof positive.  It seems to me that he is pointing out the associations and asking for the same scrutiny we give our own politicians to be applied to Putin.  He is saying that Putin does not hold up to that kind of scrutiny and I would have to agree.  Would you trust an American politician with the kinds of banker connections that Putin has?  I definitely wouldn't.  There is really no reason to give Putin the benfit of the doubt. 

Err on the side of caution.

Mute Button's picture

Our politicians have way more solid connections with Goldman Sachs. Pretty well know by everyone. I hank God Putin is a billionaire so he doesn't need to be a GS prostitute.

I think what deserves scrutinity is the approach to Putin. He might be NWO, he might not. But when I see pro freedom commentators going hard at him like Western media propaganda I get a little curious.

I have no problem proceeding with caution. But once the "mask" falls off...if there is one...we'll all scatter.

But at a time when a united front against neofeudalism is necessary, I don't see a benefit in stretching Putin's connection out into more than what can be indicated at this time.

runningman18's picture

I think the fact that Putin "might" be NWO given the evidence is enough to warrant extreme caution.  And the Western media only serves to perpetuate the east west scenario by playing putin off as a new cold warrior.  They aren't pointing out what he really seems to be according to his associations, which is a globalist.  A united front againt neofeudalism would be great, but the banksters have a long history of coopting rebellions using false leaders and allies (i.e. cointelpro).  We don't need to take a chance on Russia to get the job done.  We need to take responsibility for our own country and our own revolution, if it has to come to that.      

Farqued Up's picture

You won't get Jack out of the FSA in terms of support, they think the existing taker/producer relationship is just ducky. In other words, this country cannot be saved except through education. Good luck with that.

Ghostbusters's picture

Cognitive dissonance much?

Jim O'Neill coined the term BRIC back in 2001.  O'Neill happened to be a big time economist at a certain Goldman Sachs.  Every member of the BRICS block is a globalist puppet state.  The duality of politics is psychological manipulation in progress.  They have "libertarians" rooting for the Russian bear while Putin has the same draconian domestic policies in place at home as the supposed enemy.  One might suggest a look at historical revisionism, Anthony Sutton, and the insider connections to better unveil the internationalists' ploy for continued world domination.  De-centralization is the only way forward. The BRICS block and every other multi-lateral union for that matter always benefit the oligarchs to the detriment of the good people who ought to not believe in a nation-state or democracy or republic if we had any sense of history as they are a centralized means of control.  

War is about de-stabilization and the removal of dissidents in order to better control the environment.  The first victim of war is the truth for thise pro-US or pro-Russian supporters.  You are falling for their psychological trap, right/left, east/west, and all the other iterations of the false duality used as a classic divide and conquer technique.  100 years ago they fought this war and a certain western hero emerged named Lawrence of Arabia only to betray his comrades in arms to the benefit of western, read globalist, oligarchs. They redrew or created the borders guaranteeing future conflict through their flawed nation-state system and here we are suffering the consequences without any historical perspective.  Will we never learn?