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Russia, Iran Begin "Promised" Assault On Syria's Largest City In Final Bid To Restore Assad
Earlier this week, we noted that Iran had reportedly sent “thousands” of troops to Syria in preparation for an offensive aimed at retaking the city of Aleppo.
With a population of more than 2 million, Aleppo was Syria’s largest city prior to the war and it’s now run by a hodgepodge of rebels and militants including al-Qaeda, the Free Syrian Army, and ISIS.
To get an idea of the effect the war has had on the city, have a look at the following before and after nighttime light emissions images:
The battle is also notable for the scale of Iran’s involvement. Between Hezbollah and Iranian forces, the battle for Aleppo is shaping up to be the largest ground operation orchestrated by Tehran to date.
Here’s more, via Reuters:
Syrian troops backed by Hezbollah and Iranian fighters launched an offensive south of Aleppo on Friday, expanding their counter-attack against rebels across western Syria with support from Russian air strikes.
Aleppo, a commercial and industrial hub near the border with Turkey, was Syria's largest city before its four-year civil war, which grew out of protests against Assad's rule.
Control of the city, still home to two million people, is divided between the government and rebels.
"This is the promised battle," a senior government military source said of the offensive backed by hundreds of Hezbollah and Iranian forces which he said had made some gains on the ground.
It was the first time Iranian fighters had taken part on such a scale in the Syrian conflict, he said, although their numbers were modest compared to the army force. "The main core is the Syrian army," the source said.
Hezbollah, which has supported Assad in several battles during the civil war, said the army was carrying out a "broad military operation" with support from Russian and Syrian jets. It made no mention of Hezbollah fighters in its brief statement.
Two senior regional sources told Reuters this week that Iran has sent thousands of troops to Syria to bolster an offensive underway in Hama province and ahead of the Aleppo attack.
And a bit more from AFP:
Russian air cover is backing offensives by Syria's army and allied militias in the central provinces of Homs and Hama, as well as Aleppo in the north and Latakia along the coast.
On Friday, the Syrian army pushed south from the provincial capital Aleppo city, where control is divided between regime and rebels forces, as Russian air strikes pounded the villages of Al-Hader and Khan Tuman and nearby localities.
"The Syrian army started a new front on Friday and advanced to take control of the villages of Abteen and Kaddar" about 15 kilometres (12 miles) south of Aleppo city, said Observatory head Rami Abdel Rahman.
He said "dozens" of Russian aerial attacks in the past 24 hours had struck the area, which is controlled by a patchwork of groups including rebels, Islamist fighters and Al-Qaeda's Syria affiliate, Al-Nusra Front.
Note also that Aleppo is near the so-called "anti-ISIS" zone that the US and Turkey humorously proposed to create a few months back, which means that Iran, supported by Russian air power, is now conducting an all-out ground assault very near territory Turkey likes to think it effectively patrols (if not controls).
But the real key here, is this (again from Reuters): "The assault means the army is now pressing insurgents on several fronts near Syria's main cities in the west, control of which would secure President Bashar al-Assad's hold on power even if the east of the country is still held by Islamic State."
In other words, if Iran and Russia manage to retake Aleppo (and you know they will because remember, thanks to Hezbollah, this isn't a team that's going to be confused by the vagaries of urban warfare), Assad's rule is restored.
Just like that.
From there, the situation would morph and what you would have is a kind of Wild West scenario, only in Syria "West" would mean "East" and Assad, Russia, and Iran, having secured most of the critical cities and territory, would be free to simply mount up and push east on a kind of search and destroy mission.
So apparently, the US and its regional allies in Riyadh and Doha have a couple of weeks to figure out what to do here or else this is going to be over and suddenly, Washington will find itself in the awkward position of having to negotiate for a transition away from an Assad government that has been fully restored.
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The Nobel Prize Winner will not appreciate Russia and Iran ending his war in Syria which has claimed over 300,000 lives and created more than 4 million refugees.
Besides, the billions he spent on founding and funding ISIS are all wasted. Perhaps, he can drop more ammunition on Syria today.
Sergei Lavrov said that Russia regrets the fact that the United States refused to accept the UN Security Council statement condemning the shelling of the Russian Embassy in Damascus.and created more than 4 million refugees.
The assault on Europe has begun.....can you say Caliphate?
Europe/NATO reaps what it sows for its dreams of a qatar-turkey pipeline and the creation of TERROR INC.
Syrian troops are in Aleppo Governorate, but I don't think that means an assault on Aleppo itself quite yet. Reuters and WaPo seem to think the city is the objective, but it will take weeks to clear out the areas around the city.
I'm thinking this is just part of the cutting of supply lines to Aleppo and driving all the head-choppers away. Going into the city itself is going to be tough, and both al Nusra and ISIS have tons of explosives there. Everything will be booby-trapped.
It would make a lot more sense if they were just reclaiming territory in south Allepo Governorate and did not try to go into Aleppo city itself for a while.
Carpet bomb day and night, the bulldoze it. Nothing to save anyway., that city was destroyed 2 years ago
So is Ishmael's promised land Europe? I'm getting so confused in all of this!
Yes, but the fight will be different this time. Ground forces locate and identify pockets of ISIS and Russia hits them from helicopters and jets. The cost to the Syrian troops should be less than previous such pushes.
As you say, the interior of the city may be difficult. But this time ISIS will not be able to drive out the back door with US air support to cover their retreat.
Okay, caliphate, and I did it with my thumb pressed on my lip too.
Wackoism - Obama had about as much to do with "founding and funding" ISIS as he does with founding and funding the Red Army.
The fact remains, however, that the US, the major European powers, and their regional allies all previously lent financial, military and political support to ISIS and similar groups, which have “Made in the USA” stamped all over them. They have, until now, played a significant part in Washington’s efforts to overthrow the regime of President Bashar al-Assad in Syria, as part of a broader effort to gain control of the region’s vast energy resources and transit routes.
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/isis-j30.html
yomutti's point above is that the decision to support found and ISIS was made at a level higher than Obama. He's not denying US culpability.
Agreed...the CIA hardly acts at the behest of the President. They're operating independently and probably provide a minimal amount of false info to the WH with full knowledge that whatever they disclose to the WH will immediately be leaked.
They still take orders......from Bush?
Dammit.....I just knew it!!!
there must be some reason Jebbers wants the office ....
Which one? If your Munny is on G.H.W.Bush, collect yer winnin's!
His comparison to the 'Red Army' makes his statement completely ludicrous no matter how you look at it.
No. The decision is not made at a higher level than Obama, it is made at a subordinate level to Obama, and that is precisely the problem. Just because the BOY skips his PDBs or phones/emails them in from the golf course and abdicates his own authority to others (unsupervised), and doesn't do his job, doesn't let him off the hook. Apparently, no one ever taught him what the actual job of the President is, or the responsibilities that the job entails. Even a certifiable TARD like Shrub understood he was delegating his authority to Cheney and his cabal at the "undisclosed locations".
Unfortunately your dislike for our current "president" blinds you to the talk show host the role of president has been reduced to...he has no power...his masters will kill him and his family if he interferes with their wishes
Correct the "President" is the PR, TV,PC,good looking black/white multi-cultural,diversified,caring gay,family man who mouths soothing scripted soundbites to a nation of industrially fed obese educationally indoctrinated Hollywood brain washed pharmacuitically pacified herd of human goyim cattle owned by Masonic Satanical Zionist central bank corporatists or something along those lines and thats not just USA Corp cattle but most of the "Western"nations livestock
In terms of military intelligence clearance, isn't the President something like 30th in the pecking order?
Yomutti is a zio troll. Showed up a few weeks ago.
3 weeks........2 days.......
this is a one time pass..............your forgiven for being so obtuse.
Don't give a pass like that to an obvious Latvian troll.
If not Latvian, then...whatever. Nobody cares where "Yomutti" is really from. It's all just trolling. If "Yomutti" would grace us with an extended piece of logic and analysis, better. But we'll just get self-referential partisan snark from this user.
At least we know where the mysterious red arrows appear from...
Try an image search using the term "McCain with ISIS" and you'll get an eyeful of photographic evidence of overt US involvement.
Schmuckism - the disease of the brain that imagines AmeriKa is merely an innocent bystander when people are dying halfway around the world. Plausible deniability. Got it.
The only cure for schmuckism is application of .556 rule to the temple.
America has forgotten that for Plausible Deniability to work it needs to be plausible to the outside observer, not just the actor.
Otherwise its just called Delusion.
That's why ISIS deploys the American Military's TOW Anti Tank Guided Missile across the battlefields of Syria. No, Obama didn't supply modern anti tank guided missiles to ISIS. Fucking Santa Claus dropped a few hundred of them out of his sleigh on the way north. You can't connect top line American weapons supplied to all major ISIS front line units with America. I tie these weapons to Santa, he is the one who keeps supply lines open to ISIS to fight a major war on a daily basis, arms, ammunition, food, fuel, uniforms, body armor, radios, and electronic counter measures. All these flow from Santa to ISIS. Look at a map, only Santa could keep the supply lines open. The CIA has and had nothing to do with ISIS first rate and unlimited weapons supplies.
Of course we know America's CIA would never do deals with jihadists, Jihadists are America's mortal foes. Remember Bush the younger vowed to get them.
I thought you were being sarcastic, ya know, just trying to be funny. I didn't think you were serious.
http://d3mfoxizwrqdu.cloudfront.net/Blogs/mitch_knox/bad_santas/robot-santa.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egW2rCorom4
correction:
The US had as much to do with creating ISIS as it had with creating Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.
The Russian strategy is simple, a variation of Hannibal's Cannae plan. The Russians will provide air support to destroy ISIS transport vehicles fleeing the city while Assad forces encircle Aleppo. The only way out of the surrounded city will then be by helicopter airlift provided by Saudi puppet Obama.
..... and yelling "remember stalingrad!!!!!".
"The Nobel Prize Winner will not appreciate Russia and Iran ending his war in Syria..."
Please, PLEASE, stop referring to this conflict (or anything else) as "Obama's". He is less than an empty suit. If I shoot you with my hand up a Muppet's ass, I killed you, not Kermit the fucking frog. You guys sound like total 'tards when you ascribe almost ANY Executive Actions (especially those regarding foreign policy) to Obama's personal beliefs or reasoned decisions. So please... stop. It's really fucking annoying.
He was dumb enough to take the microphone, deserves a trial just the same. Remeber Baghdad Bob- well, they still killed him
"Baghdad Bob", if he's dead, died from natural causes.
Aleppo?
I think my dog is hungry.
First we take Aleppo than it is on to Kibble and Bitz.
Aleppo was one of the Three Stooges .... silly wabbit ?
Aleppo was a Marx brother.
Someone please assure me neither the EU nor the US will be responsible for rebuilding Syria.
send the bill to televiv........
I heard they are bad tippers.
I have read that some of the residents like to order entrees and split them. That is why the sharing fee was introduced in restaurants. I have also read that one will order a coke with no ice but then ask for a second glass of just ice. But who knows.
That would mean the U.S. still pays for it.
US AIDS on the way. Jobs for US companies in exchange for moar sovereign debt of the Syrian state.
Aleppo has bloodbath written all over it. Air power will mean little there. Hezboallah will have to go house to house. Ironic that Hezboallah will have to mimic IDF tactics, as they will be the ones in urban fighting as the attacker. Usually they are the defender.
Yes, it should be a major improvement of the Lebanese gene pool.
hey mother (fucker),
you might just take a .38 toi your right temple. That would be so much easier on all of us.
Notice that trolls ALWAYS upvote themselves? I am starting to wonder if there is a manual.
door opened by force, geez who do i kill? fucking insanity, thanks merica, anything else the world needs from the fucker upper of the ages? disgusting shit propagandised to a world dumbed and dumbed to dumber than a fifth grader. hurry cnn make this a "good" situation whilst mericans play counterstrike.
You can see the Russian strategy - take out command centers and supplies first - then do the assault - so the the rebel fighters in Aleppo have no help from the outside and are totally on their own. I can almost guarantee that every vehicle heading into Aleppo is going to be checked or destroyed by air assault.
Used Land Cruiser parts will be a booming business in Aleppo.
Military science is clear on one thing. A force with air superiority and wide scale air to ground support, covering a well armed force of infantry backed by tanks and artillery, has a high success rate.
Russia will kill any vehicle daring to carry on driving. Thus supplies will dry up fast. Battles are won by the side with ammunition to spare while the enemy is short of ammunition.
Russia has some aces in the hole. Guided anti terror muntions were a high priority of the last decade for Russia. The Chechen wars showed the need for air support to be within 2 meters of any target. Russia is well supplied with such munitions.
Plus, if they find any ISIS in the open, outside a city, and need to end them, no matter how well dug in, the Syrians have gotten a few of these from Russia. ISIS killers in the extreme.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuyCZiI2f8U
Ha ha ha - more hilarious Russian propaganda. Assad only controls about 25% of Syria now. Taking back a single city, even a big one, will not "effectively restore" him to power.
BUt hey, he can at least claim to be mayor of Aleppo :)
Draw a straight line from Aleppo South to Damascus. East of that line quickly becomes desert (save for a couple of river valleys) all the way to the Euphrates. ie that line from Aleppo south to Damascus is key to controlling the country and most of the population who live in it.
Yep, Syria is mostly desert, even if the 25% is true then 25% is controlling 90% of the useful bits.
The big problem though is clearly not IS, various rebels/jihadists, but Turkey, Assads problem areas all have rearward supply from unfriendly states, can Assad secure the border here and stop the Turkish supplying IS? If he can then it is definitely game over for IS in western Syria.
The east of the country is screwed though, I don't see Assad gaining control of that any time soon.
No, but Russia can. Putin is getting pretty tired of Erdogan by now (the caliph wannabe of the new ottoman empire). His upcoming election in two weeks might be tampered with, and is certainly not a given. Or the Russians could arm the Kurds, Alevis, and few remaining Armenians, all of whom have a decided distaste for Turkish 'exceptionalism'. Nato has just backed out the missiles from Anatolia so he's a sitting duck. Too bad the Turkish military left its secularist model behind and bought into muslim brotherhoodism. Not too forward thinking, imho.
You got it! I said long ago that Russia would not put a lot of boots on the ground - that they would have plenty of help from the Iranians, Kurd's, a re-vitalized Syrian army, and even Iraqi's as ISIS tries to consolidate their losses from Syria into Iraq. All of these failed states were much better off under secular leadership, and Syria will be, too, in the long run. If Assad were to fall, there will be a bloodbath of revenge.
Control is a relative word. Assad does control much of the western part of Syria - the developed and fertile parts - while others control vast areas of desert with a few spotted towns. If he takes Aleppo then he can take any town he wants whenever he wants. I do not doubt he can take Aleppo - just as the U.S. troops can walk patrols into towns and 'control' it -- but the keys will be whether attackers accept their loses and what happens when the 'patrol' moves out of an area. This is where Hezbollah will play a key part - because they won't be playing nice AND they have many informers willing to point out the rebels. The U.S. and IDF go into towns and have to 'play nice' with the civilians and there are very few informers are willing to help.
Yep. Hezbollahwill be ruthless in executing anyone who even might have been an ally of Al Qaeda and their suppliers.
Hezbollah will be limbering up their pack of Sunni-Shia shibboleths, indeed.
We can table the propaganda discussion, to me this looks more like a drive to secure a corridor to the coast, and the western half should be the easier half to conquer and it would meet most of Putin's territorial goals...the tough nut to crack is in the west and unless he and his allies can conquer it...he and his vassal will only control half of Syria.
But they will cut supply lines as they will control the border. That is a biggy.
A few square miles of major city is worth way more than a few square miles of open Desert... If Assad holds "All" the major cities, it really doesn't matter too much how much desert ISIS holds, the desert is a place to hide, not an industrial/recruiting base...
@yomettie
* citation needed*
You have got to be trollan... Do you realize the morale boost that will occur when that city is liberated???? It will eventually restore him to power sooner than later.
@ Lorca's Novena
"It will eventually restore him to power sooner than later".
Assad, is the duly elected leader of Sovereign state of Syria.
Hey Cockstein if you like your desert of Eastern Syria you can keep it
Night time black out .... but, they have a long way to fall .... by North Korean night image standards .... Pyongyang Motel .... we'll leave the light on for ya !
spineless sook
aha, here you are imbecilic moron! Could you please share some more briliant brain diarrhea of yours?
The only urbane humour around here .... is me and Ramirez ?
I suppose you consider your moniker and icon a form of "urbane humour.
Yeah, he's about as urbane as the sole of my shoe. Like the Kardasians are urbane, espceially the one they just fished out of that Vegas whorehouse.
Apart from hand-wringing and sneering the US State Dept has no further role to play now that the caravan has moved on.
Perhaps the greatest loss to US strategic intersts is the loss of faith by her traditional allies.
Thats the consequence of having a foreign policy that does not match reality.
With the Russian air and Iranian ground assets, filling the vacuum left by the Nike brigade. The U.S. is going to move this party up north Turkey way, keep the pot boiling and your close Ukraine, concentrate the chaos. Erdogan fucked them(NATO) with the Russian oil deal, The powers that be want subservience. Since neither pipelines are not going to be built, a nail gun is in his future.
I told ya this was a desperation move by Mossy Cow ?
go hide back in your basement.
hey coin-flipper, the only desperation expressed on this site are your (and a handful of other Langley trolls') comments. Keep racking up those down votes it seems you kind of feed on.
What makes this assault easier, is the fact that in Russia's eyes all the rebel groups are terrorist. "I see a man wearing a red sash, I shot him".
well, you know, rebels simply are all terrorists. A real patriot defends his country whatever government he may have, when the country is under foreign invasion. The government can be sorted out later, but you need to prevent total destruction of your country by invaders first (especially if those invaders are terrorists!) Is it so hard for someone to understand??? If you ask Russians, they did not fight for Stalin in WWII. It was Mother Russia they fought for and they would have defended the devil himself from foreign invaders. This is why Russians were never conquered.
It sucks when you find out you work for the Devil himself, though. The Russian Gulags were not kind to those "patriots."
Why the downvotes?
Joe Stalin killed millions. War heroes were treated as outcasts after WWII, and some DID go to the Gulags.
I suppose some people are ignorant of man's inhumanity to man.
The United States is not interested in meeting with a Russian delegation of military top brass to coordinate actions in Syria until Moscow changes its approach to fighting terrorists in the country, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said in a briefing on Wednesday.
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151014/1028536556/us-russia-syrian-str...
Still under the illusion they are still in the driving seat.
Its dark in the trunk, so maybe thats their excuse.
When they really got the boot? :)
They are in the driving seat, but that seat has just been relocated inside the trunk...
Who the fuck is that now?
Rec.
Ali, Mustafa and Ahmed, you can count in Yusuf too, but only on Saturdays as he has a job during the week now...
Before/After .... March/September .... the Russkies didn't start bombing but a week or two ago ?
Erdogan will be thrilled to learn that the allied Russian-Iranian-Syrian-Lebanese ground assault is northbound, i.e. aiming to push ISIS mercenaries straight into Turkey and then seal the Turkish-Syrian border..
They can take their Toyota trucks back where they came from. They are probably due for an oil change and routine service anyway.
Do "rebelS" have enough Captagon amphetamine ?
Syrian crisis: the booming business of Captagonhttp://www.mesp.me/2015/07/09/syrian-crisis-the-booming-business-of-captagon/
I wonder if the distribution of this stuff had a dual policy objective? First, as an enhancer and fortifier in the beginning phases of the "regime change", but as everyone knows, speed has its brief window of "effectiveness". So, the fighters who survive more than a few months are pretty much guaranteed to go batshit crazy addicted to it, and thus be less likely to act as a rational soldier would and retreat in the face of a true foe, ie Russia.
The fact alone that the rebels were using speed from the beginning should be sufficient de facto evidence to call this a state-sponsored fighting force. That no international body will touch any of this with a ten foot pole tells you everything you need to know about the state of the "international". It's their baby 100%.
Obama is a Muslim POS .... but, by Monedian logic .... that doesn't make Putin .... the default princess ?
Don't you and the other scabs here ever get tired of sucking terrorist cock?
The amount of paid and unpaid basement assholes angry at Russian vaporizing of stateless terrorist scum tells us two things:
1) If the terrorists really weren't under Washington's employ, few would be here complaining about it and the US would join Russia in their clean up - USSA talking heads are spinning and confusing the idiots
2) Tel Aviv, Riyadh, Ankara and DC are clearly upset so they send out their retards to cry long and hard about it. Is there much else they can do? Certainly they aren't brave enough to openly do anything about it. That's some of the biggest scumbag cowards out there - the Turks, the israelis, the Saudis
Moral repugnance? You twats are soaking in it.
I've heard that the 'Young Turks' (aka Ataturk) were Crypto-Jews... Make of that what you will.
Certainly ties Israel, Saudi Arabia and Turkey together.
"[ataturk's father] Ali R?za Bey's desire was to send Atatürk to the newly opened ?emsi Efendi Jewish Donmeh school"
Case closed.
The father of all Turks is also reputed to have been Gay (not that there's anything erm wrong with that): "He had no biological children from this marriage"
Someone embed this pic, ZH please! Reminds me of Obama riding his bicycle, for some reason:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/AtaturkSwing2.jpg
I would argue this is also why there is NO INTEREST in the Armenian genocide in AIPAC-run America, nor in Hollywood. Because digging deeper would bring some truly terrible truths to light (hint, in both the Holodomor and Armenian Genocide, the victims were by and large Christians, and their respective governments Soviet and Turkish, were... lets just say NOT Christian)
We should keep that in mind, there is no White Knight here..
Washington will find itself in the awkward position of having to negotiate for a transition away from an Assad government that has been fully restored.
Hmm... Let's think about this one?...
WWIII or "negotiate"???...
Unless or until "white chimp" with the insistance of his handlers produces another 9/11 inside a major U.S. city to rally what is left of the American empire I'd say Israel, Saudi Arabia and Turkey better start gettin use to Assad llc relatively soon!
https://youtu.be/IEWWRbn4zG0
The Russains are Coming, The Russians are Coming!
I watched a "discussion" of three American experts on RT. They all agreed that Syria would HAVE to be partitioned. They asserted that groups that lived in peace for thousands of years, the Christians, Alawaite, Kurds and Sunnis would not ever be able to "get along" now since the invasion of the Wahabists. I expect that this will become the new NeoCultist talking point. Break up the country and take it over a little bite at a time.
My question was - If partition would work for Syria, why not Ukraine?
I watched a "discussion" of three American experts on RT. They all agreed that Syria would HAVE to be partitioned. They asserted that groups that lived in peace for thousands of years, the Christians, Alawaite, Kurds and Sunnis would not ever be able to "get along" now since the invasion of the Wahabists. I expect that this will become the new NeoCultist talking point. Break up the country and take it over a little bite at a time.
My question was - If partition would work for Syria, why not Ukraine?
It is the US that is not going to hold together in its present form...
I'm disappointed with those Russian Cruise Missiles in that fired from 1,500km they have an accuracy of +/- 3 metres. I was led to believe that they could light a Shisha-Pipe from that range. S/C
This is just another article from the same dumbell that told us Syria does not have an army. An insult to the guys who've spent years trying to free their country from Takfiri scumbags. Quotes Reuters and AFP, who in turn say "according to sources". You know? Those sources, "experts", guys that feed bullshit to Reuters and AFP all day long? Those guys only need annonymity so nobody can call them out on their lies. Trouble is, we have zero evidence of any Iranian troop movents or actual Iranian units fighting on the ground. Wake me up when you have a video of some Iranian troops, I mean the 2,000 troops that are supposed to be there, that must be difficult to hide, even from some fat ass editor at Reuters that never leaves his office.
True that.
It is well known that Langley (CIA) funds its illegal armies with drug money from Afgan poppy fields. Is anyone surprised that US army will stay longer in Afganistan now that ISIS will have to be re-built?
The common theme that puzzles me is the extreme violence that made the people of Central America and Mexico flee North unabated is very similar to what is happening in the Middle East.
It's almost as though there is a campaign to destroy any sense of nationalism. The only place left where people will have a common identity will be where?
Anybody?
On the toilet?
This is my toilet,
this is my gun,
one is for shitting,
the other for fun.
"I AM in a WORLD of SHIT!"
It took millions of years .... of survival of the fitest .... to improve the human brain .... mob rule (socialism) .... has taken us back to ground zero .... in a couple of thousand years ?
I've just worked out why your posts are so meaningless; the frequent "...." represent removed passages of text that are linking thoughts and paragraphs that would actually combine with what's left to make some sense.
That, and the fact you scramble the remaining words. And substitute them for random words picked out of a dictionary.
Himie isn't a native English speaker.
David’s kingdom.
"It's almost as though there is a campaign to destroy any sense of nationalism. "
Are you serious? The campaign to destroy nationalism and ethnic cohesion, primarily in relation to White countries, has been ongoing in blatant form for decades, ramping up drastically in recent years. It's driven by NWO globalists and a certain ethnic group keen on diversity for everyone apart from themselves.
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"It's almost as though there is a campaign to destroy any sense of nationalism. "
Are you serious? The campaign to destroy nationalism and ethnic cohesion, primarily in relation to White countries, has been ongoing in blatant form for decades, ramping up drastically in recent years. It's driven by NWO globalists and a certain ethnic group keen on diversity for everyone apart from themselves.
Yep,
Now Obama and rhe SPLC,and the DOJ are saying ANY 3rd party member of conservative, or Independent,anti immigationist,is a DOMESTIC TERRORIST.
There must be hundreds of books on the subject; but here may be as good a place as any to start:
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/believe_new_world_order.htm
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Si vis pacem para bellum. If you want peace prepare for war.
No use blaming Obama. He was the man for the times. History is rhyming again as it inevitably does. When the US electorate embraced the Obama dream they abandoned the ancient wisdom. No worries, they will be reminded but there will be a price and it will be heavy, very.
Hah!!! Suck it Obama.
Clearly our involvement has been a game of patty cake if the Russians can essentially win this war in a matter of a few sorties
Hail Russia :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOAtz8xWM0w
>> Vilaniousone Member for 6 weeks 3 days
The youtube link is Russia's national anthem.
Fractal Parasite member for 3 years 8 weeks.
See? Anyone can play that game.
And your point is?????????????????????????????
When Putin cleanses the Zionist created monsters, Syria will need to be rebuilt with reparations from Israel and a global tax on zionists. Teach tfj's a long overdue lesson.
Here at ZH the Rooskie Protocols of Zion propagand rule supreme
Hate to tell you
Damascus will be NUKED, and it will probably be the Rooskies who will make it look like Israel did it
clever Rooskies, many black swans, work so well
Isaiah 17
“See, Damascus will no longer be a city
but will become a heap of ruins.
Put away that mythology book.
Just like how the Canadian Secret Service made it look like Mossad did Charlie Hebdo, right?
(just trying to play along with the absurd "No no, its actually twice as complicated" disinfo agents)
dsty is 100% correct and it absolutely infuriates teh Rus troll brigade that populates ZH. I personally cannot wait till the Rus army gets divinely squashed. It will be beyond EPIC.
Cue in Imperail Death March.
But in a good way.
I'm lovin' it!
I doubt very strongly that the Syrian Army+Hezbollah+Quds have enough armored fighting vehicles and combat engineers to win the street fighting in Aleppo, without enduring heavy casualties over a prolonged period of time. It will take months, assuming that the rebel forces exhibit the same determination to resist that the Sunnis showed at Fallujah in Iraq. Further, it will be impossible to avoid civilian casualties, which will exceed the military casualties suffered by both sides.
Yes, I guess there will be several areas outside the SAA controlled half of Aleppo which will be flattened Grozny, Hamburg, Dresden style and which will need to be rebuilt, probably this is where the Chinese army of workers steps in, after control is reestablished. However, if supply routes and C&C are successfully cut off things could rapidly change.
Depends on the rules of engagement now, doesn't it? And are there any civilians left there now? Cuz there sure won't be many later.
It's called 'war', and those are the challenges and the consequences. Look at the night view of Syria above and note the difference in lights at Aleppo - there are likely few civilians left in the areas controlled by the terrorists, even the 'good' terrorists... ;-)
The Army knows what it is doing - they will not have attacked until they were certain it was the optimal time to do so.
Would be surprised if this was a full frontal, more like preparing the ground, SAA is still 12k south of Aleppo in places.
I keep seeing that map from "The Institute For The Study Of War." So, I looked it up. The Executive Director is Kimberly Kagan. Guess who she is? Victoria Nudelman's sister-in-law. Nice, huh? All the Zio-cons seem to be in the family business.
I would note that the Tylers seem only to use the map from that group; not any of the "analysis."
@swmnguy,
"The Executive Director is Kimberly Kagan. Guess who she is? Victoria Nudelman's sister-in-law. Nice, huh? All the Zio-cons seem to be in the family"
Massive inbreeding for centuries on end will lead to mental illness, it has worked for the Jews. Kissing cousins, or siblings.
Scientists Find Gene That Predispose Jews For Schizophrenia, Schizoaffective Disorder, Manic Depression and Other Mental Illness
http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/11/25/scientists-find-gene-that-predispos...
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/09/exponential-growth-of-ashke...
http://davidduke.com/can-science-explain-jewish-supremacists-behave-way/
http://davidduke.com/rethinking-khazar-theory/
Paranoia and delusions of grandeur.
Swmnguy,
Critical thinkers must constantly check the sources. It seems so simple, but it needs to be restated often for those who get sloppy and lazy- or those who just don't know any better.
Some time ago, the Tylers were enamored with ISW's graphics and their "analysis", plastering it often on ZH. At the time, I explicitly discussed who the "ISW" was, in an attempt to to bring some balance and perspective to the conversation.
I am not going to reprise it right now, but I can categorically tell everyone that is goes much deeper than mere Kagan turds floating on the surface. Anyone who goes on a ISW scavenger hunt, will find much more than that.
If the USA and its rag tag band of loonies are out of Syria, where will the USA cause the next war?
South China Sea to draw the Chinese back to China???
Texas?
You stutter or did I miss something?.
Texas what?.
Poster is suggesting that Texas is the next site of war.
China, Iran, Russia.
Take your pick.
Let's invade Canada. They have plenty of natural resources and we need to shore up our defences for the eventual invasion of Alaska by the Russians. There are probably Al Quada cells there anyway. If not, we can always send over a division or two once we relocate them from Syria and Iraq.
Sounds good. Our soldiers could even come home on the weekends.