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Taliban Stronger Than At Any Time Since 2001
The Afghanistan War is by far the longest war in American history. It’s been going on for 14 years … as long as the Civil War (4 years,), WW1 (4 years) and WW2 (6 years) COMBINED.
The Afghanistan and Iraq wars were also the most expensive wars in American history.
And yet – as the New York Times reports – the Taliban are as widespread and strong now as they were before we launched the war:
The Taliban insurgency has spread through more of Afghanistan than at any point since 2001, according to data compiled by the United Nations as well as interviews with numerous local officials in areas under threat.
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The United Nations data suggests that the tempo of the insurgency has increased in many parts of the country where there had been little Taliban presence in the past, including some areas in the north with scant Pashtun populations.
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“We have had fighting in 13 provinces of Afghanistan over the past six months, simultaneously,” President Ashraf Ghani said this month in response to criticism after the fall of Kunduz.
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In all, 27 of Afghanistan’s 34 provinces had some districts where the threat level was rated high or extreme.
Indeed, the strength of the Taliban may conceivably now be even higher than in 2001. Specifically, the Times notes:
The data [was] compiled in early September — even before the latest surge in violence in northern Afghanistan ….
And way back in 2012, Spiegel noted, that the Taliban was “stronger than EVER.”
So why did we launch the Afghanistan war?
After all, the Taliban offered to hand over Bin Laden.
There might have been other reasons …
Postscript: It’s not just Afghanistan … recent U.S. wars have not gone well.
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if some fucking degenerate Empire invaded my country, you best be sure there'll be resistance. Now multiply that concept by about 10 and you'll get close to how Afghans feel about their Western "liberators".
What stupid dumbass can't understand that a drone campaign that produces 90% civilian casualties is the greatest recruiting tool a terrorist organization like the Taliban could possibly want? Washington is run by morons, morons too stupid to realize how evil they really are.
What a hoot GW! How can you have an increase of anything unless you have numbers to compare to? Ha. Ha. Ha.
The population of Afghanistan is about 32 million, is the Taliban 50 percent of the population? That would be one out of two people or about 16 million people.
If a person was 14 years old in Afghanistan, he would have been in war for 14 years and probably would be Taliban. If a person was 28 years old, half of his life would have been spent in a war zone and he would probable would be Taliban.
The production of Opium in Afghanistan is represented with real figures while the Taliban is represented with no numbers but a gushing that their numbers have increased. Incredible!
It is all going exactly as planned. There were no real terrorists before 9/11 so it was necessary to create them. The opiuum trade was another great windfall for the bankers, and America has incured hugh dedt that it cannot repay. So you see the war was a total success.
Barak Hussien O'Bam-Bam's job is done (may Allah be pleased with him). 72 virgins, pimped by The Prophet hisself (peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) await.
Or post op trannies, if that's the way he swings...
Spiegel noted, that the Taliban was “stronger than EVER.” Did you read the article? ONLY the headline says, “stronger than EVER.” and that is a conclusion drawn by the author, David Smith. Other than that, yes, the Taliban are more wide spread, it is Islam, a theology. All they do is read the book and do what it says to do. Islam will consume the world in war and death because they want a caliphate. Blame the U.S. and blame Israel but it is Islam that will win with uninformed westerners supporting the Islam cause. CARE, is a terrorist arm of Islam that is welcomed in the White House and the Mosques are being built across the country as America watches the Kardashians.
NO I blame only Israel and the Chosen; no one else has any power in the West. Only the Chosen control the private banks that create money out of thin air and lend it out. Even the village idiot would become the most powerful one in the village if he could do that. And in the West, the Chosen must have inbred too much or believed their own bullshit too much because the decisons they are making lately are the worst ones possible for their future. They are playing with less than a full deck and are liable to do something really stupid, not that 9/11 wasn't stupid....letting cousin Larry turn 14 million into 5.5 billion and pulling WTC 7 was a bit of an overreach
And for the commenter who mentioned the Protocols; I don't know if they are real but I do know that the Chief Rabbi of the ruling Likud party said to his millions of follwers in a radio address. He said the ONLY PURPOSE OF NON-JEWS IS TO SERVE JEWS. IF THEY DON'T SERVE JEWS, THEY HAVE NO PURPOSE IN LIFE. That means the Cheif Spiritiaul leader of Israel is giving a GREEN LIGHT FOR JEWS TO KILL NON-JEWS WHO CHOOSE NOT TO SERVE THEM. Heck even if they serve them, he said that they are animals to be used and discarded as Jews see fit.
Truly revealing stuff from the Chief RAbbi of Israel!!!!! He apparently believes that what the Protocols say is the TRUTH about what the plan is, so the rest of us should too !!!!
So whats new.
I watched the Taliban take over as a service member while in Kuwait in 1994-1995 on the BBC and CNN. They quickly took over the country. The northern province was controlled by the so called northern alliance by the time the US came along.
Hmmm, if the Taliban is getting stronger just as ISIS is being destroyed, how long before we pay the 'moderate' Taliban to have a gripe with the Assad government? You know the CIA is working on getting some Islamist extremists to take up where ISIS couldn't quite finish the job.
Afghan central bank ... oh, and the opium. Why else? oh, right, those pipelines and the US bases guard.
They should be. We've helped them reestablish their poppy fields and injected a few hundred billion dollars into various islamic groups. You'd have to be an utter and completely incompetent fuck-up not to make hay from a windfall like that.
It is only a coincidence that ISIS and their facebook friends are getting clobbered in Syria and suddenly jihad central starts shifting to Afghanistan where there is no threat of Russian or Iranian interference.
You can take Afganistan no big deal. Holding it? No flipping way.
Same deal with the US exept its way harder to take. Holding it? Not gonna happen for the same reason. Logistics.
Judge Barack's acts in Afghanistan by their results. The ignorant, the stupid, the uneducated, the primitive, the lightly armed defeat the World's righteous power? Whose god is dead?
Countries fighting themselves (and Americans) can't fight Israel.
The Russians, who of course know nothing, and are not “exceptional” like us, told us not to go in there. But no, we not only went in, we can never leave…duh! There is NO way to win in there, it is another Vietnam for us. I remember coming home from school and watching the news, “Pentagon says with 10,000 more troops we will win in Vietnam!” What a f***ing lie. Their Tet Offensive ended it for us. And unfortunately, that is what they will need to do in Afghanistan. Hit in a dozen places at once, take over towns and cities and force us to leave. We will keep losing good people and the moment we do leave, their government will flee with our money. The people in those countries have been killing each other for a thousand years, and we need to get the f*** out now.
The Russian adventure in Syria will end the same way. They will face IEDs and RPG attacks every place they go. They will have to hide on their base and never step outside. Almost every day car bombs will go off nearby and they will go home in boxes. Most Muslim men are filled with hate and want to die as martyrs, and killing is something they enjoy. Very hard to fight that mentality.
I hope Europe enjoys their millions of new guests! LMAO.
hey dude; the Russians are on the side of the natives/nationalists understand? In Vietnam, we were on the side of the FRENCH!!!! Don't be an Idiot
The Russians absolutely will not see another Afghanistan in Syria. They are strictly limiting their own exposure. The dirty work is being handled by the Shiites and Alawites.
NATO only lost like four guys in Libya. Russia is using the same strategy but backing the government instead of the rebels.
"Most Muslim men are filled with hate and want to die as martyrs, and killing is something they enjoy. Very hard to fight that mentality."
I don't think you know too many Muslims. The ones I know are honest, hard working people who take care of their family and friends, and participate in the community. The kind of people who have your back when the chips are down.
I know a few Muslim men. Some from Turkey, Egypt and Iraq. They are non practicing. They do not go to the Mosque and pray, like a Catholic that doesn't go to church. They are nice men, we can sit and talk, smoke a cigar, and in some cases have a drink. But do not be fooled. If called by a Imam to wage holy war, they will cleanup their ways (Allah will forgive them), and killl the infidel. Sorry, but I don't trust them to re-write the Koran in a new more accepting and peaceful way.
I'm sure your Muslim "friends' would love to know that is what you really think of them. There are lots of Wahhabi "imams" calling for jihad, have been doing so for decades. Yet strangely the vast majority of nearly 2 billion Muslims just ignore them and go about their daily lives, feeding their families. Muslims can't even agree among themselves on what day Ramadan starts, and you think they are part of some super-secret global sleeper cell just waiting to be activated in unison by this mysterious leader you imagine exists somewhere. Your paranoia is tragic, as it is costing you real friendships with good people in your life.
And the Chosen will kill you too if the Rabi tells them it's O.K. Heck the Rabbis have already given the Chosen a green light to kill you in peacetime as well. Rabbi Yosef even told his millions of followers in Israel (Yosef is the Cheif Rabbi of the LIkud party by the way) that the ONLY PURPOSE IN LIFE OF A NON JEW IS TO SERVE A JEW. !!!!!!! Without that purpose, he made it clear that the NON JEW HAS NO PURPOSE IN LIFE (and hence can be killed).
That means the Jews have already declared PERMANENT war on non-Jews, at least for the millions of followers of Rabbi Yosef in Israel. They just haven't told you about it (I assume you are not a Chosen, but if you are a Chosen, then please understand my feelings when I read what the Chief Rabbi of the ruling Likud party of Israel said)
At least the Russians give themselves a chance and can pick a side. The US walks in and presumes everyone is on their side, only to discover loyalty can't be bought at any price, only works in Washington, where the lead flies. It must be given, and they got none.
THE BUSH/OBAMA WEEDING PROGRAM: killing everyone but the enemy; jailing patriotic Americans; and false confessions
From the Drone Papers (theintercept.com) we now know for certain that typically, as in one 5-month operation, 88% of the supposedly targeted Taliban turned out to be others or innocents, and not the Taliban.
88% !!!!!
These were drone strikes and human kills undertaken by JSOC (I believe it was then under the command of Gen. McChrystal [now at the Jackson Institute at Yale with John Negroponte who, like Allen Dulles visiting Dallas several weeks prior to the murder of President Kennedy, would visit Pakistan several weeks prior to the murder of Benazir Bhutto]).
So they essentially killed everyone but THE DESIGNATED ENEMY!
But isn't that they way they've been doing it for many decades now?
First, in the late 1990s, the CIA and Unocal were financing and arming the Taliban (and by extension, al Qaeda), and the Taliban jet pilot was gushed over by Diane Sawyer at the TV show, 60 Minutes!
Then we have ISIS, which evidently the US was incapable of doing anything about, and Russia appears to have obliterated much of them within the space of a few days to a week?
So they kill everyone (innocents) other than the official enemy, while jailing (or destroying the careers of) patriotic Americans like John Kiriakou, Jeffrey Sterling, Edward Snowden (Hillary Clinton, as sec'y of state, revoked his passport when he was at the Moscow airport), Thomas Drake, Edward Binney, etc., etc., etc.
And, of course, there had to be false confessions, extracted knowingly under torture, ordered by the CIA's Alfreda Bikowsky Silverstein (say, isn't she the niece by marriage to Larry Silverstein, owner of the WTC's Twin Towers????), who was the same Alfreda who sat upon the knowledge of those Saudi hijackers in the USA?
Then there's WikiLeaks' Julian Assange, forced to hole up in an embassy in London (wait until that day when it finally leaks that Karl Rove has been acting as the unofficial ambassador to Sweden for President Obama regarding the vendetta against Assange!!!!).
We have seen the Real Enemy . . .
(Also, be mighty interested if there are any emails between Robin Raphel --- under investigation for espionage last I heard --- and Hillary Clinton from HC's email server?)
Read Dune. People who live in a hell hole are tough, very tough.
Putting them in prison is a vacation for them.
I believe the Soviets killed a couple of million Afghans. Didn't even make a dent.
But... There's stars to be earned, and billions of bucks (make that trillions) in profits. I don't know where these idiots will hide when the head choppers arrive.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
we must beat the taliban. afghan opium is the best.
Incorrect. If we beat the Talibananas then we have no reason to stay. If we do not stay we do not maintain control over the poppy fields.
Didn't a lot of illegal drugs come in from SE Asia during the VN war? How about the CIA wars in South/Central America and the pot/coke trade?
Yeah, nope. No patterns here.
QUOTE: "the strength of the Taliban may conceivably", which means they do not know. Like reading in a text on earth's geology, many scientist believe, which means they do not know. Or "experts think", which means they do NOT know. Think people using logic; something they use to teach in High School along with biblical ethics. We have done away with both and you see how far we have devolved..pun intended.
Understanding qualifiers doesn't require much thinking or logic.
Simple reading comprehension will suffice.
No matter. Most people read into text things that confirm their own biases and ignore or deny facts that conflict with prior conceptions.
This phenomena, surprisingly enough, is generally more prevalent on the right hand side of the IQ bell curve because of the ability to construct elaborate rationalizations around inconvenient facts that repudiate a strongly held belief.
Ignorance is not the sole province of the uninformed.
At least someone will do something about America's heroin problem.
maybe we should stop funding them with money and weapons
These idiots don't even have a good definition of Taliban. It's a catch all for anyone in that area that doesn't toe the US Government party line.
How many Taliban has the Obowelmovement released now?
Mooslim Taliban - close to 1000
"Tea-Party" Obama sworn enemy "Taliban" under IRS audit - 0
Do you really think it's useful to blame a figurehead for a problem created by the good old boy network called the Deep State? When it's a Republican in that office, the shit will stink just as bad.
You know I call Obama a puppet all the time. Still, there are times when I think he is resisting TPTB in a sort of passive/aggressive way. I do believe he's a marxist and I hate marxists but that doesn't mean he isn't, on some level, an enemy of the deep state (having taken office thinking he might actually have power himself only to watch the JFK film for education).
I think there is one thing we can count on and that is that these people are all psychopaths and psychopaths view people as pawns to be used and thrown away and that includes other psychopaths. They will eat each other alive eventually.
Interesting point; Obama knows that he has been used (heck he agreed to it) but to get back at them the way a narcissist does, when he's done in office, those that have used him and dissed him at the same time (the Chosen) will be in a significantly weaker position.
By design, by design, mein Herr, from the Muslim Communist Kenyan in Thief and Filth.
Mission Accomplished.
And yet, stay we shall.
Afghanistan is a permanent US duty station now, just like Japan, Germany, et al.
No you see with the Taliban getting stronger and stronger and larger and everywhere, it makes those 9,000 soldiers more of a hostage than a fighting force. They may get overr ran if the taliban wants it.
The problem is we didn't drop a few dozen tactical nukes on it first to make it subdued
Why the hell didn't we just let the Soviets stay there in the 80's? Freakin Afghanistan....graveyard to world Superpowers. I'm waiting for China to fall next
It is a perpetual graveyard for US personnel.
And many other empires. Some of the super powers that have tried and had major difficulties capturing Afghanistan:
nearly 3 years attempting to subdue Afghanistan. The losses incurred and
the resistance faced were some of the contributors to the eventual fall of his empire following his death
of British military influence in Afghanistan
attempted to capture Afghanistan in it's sphere of influence by spreading socialism there. While it initially gained traction, religious and tribal forces within Afghanistan resisted and this led to the
Soviet-Afghan War. With help from the CIA and Arab/Muslim fighters from other regions, the "Mujahideen" succeeded in drawing the USSR into a protracted struggle that many believe led to the end of the Soviet Union. (the pebble that cracked the Soviet Empire)
http://news.yahoo.com/video-fatal-police-shooting-emerges-family-lawsuit...
This needs more attention, maybe you could pick it up. Sad state of affairs. It's slipping away.
Afghanistan must contain a stargate or something extremely valuable to suck in world power after world power. No one ever invades Puerto Rico or Denmark.
Actually you are incorrect! The US was stupid enough to invade Puerto Rico in 1898. To this day they keep extracting wealth, destroying the place with drug trafficking (one of the reasons they love Afganistan and the place is not only bankrupt but there is also an undeclared civil war raging on the streets. But no worries, FEMA has arrived with LOTS, LOTS OF BULLETS, the plastic coffins and the MRAPS....Sounds familiar to you? The National Guard has been deployed several times with no help. Puerto Rico was the lab for police militarization long before anybody was even talking about the subject. They are draining the US budget but hey they should get as much as they can from this sinking ship, they will need it later.
We also invaded denmark sort of, we forced them to sell to us what are no the US Virgin Islands, threatening to take them by force if they didnt. It was a sale offer they couldnt reisist.