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"Own For $0 Money Down!"

It took nearly a decade, but "owning" a house for zero money down has finally come back.

As seen on the SE corner of S Fort Apache and W Warm Springs Road in Las Vegas this morning, where the amount of new construction is off the charts, and where, as a reader notes, the builders - just like the CEO of Schlumberger - have realized the "recovery now appears to be delayed" and as a result "are just rushing to offload all inventory before the upcoming wipe out"...

h/t Shelley

 

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Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:13 | 6675662 Deathrips
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Full Recourse Idiocy!!

 

RIPS

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:20 | 6675702 greenskeeper carl
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and of course its near vegas, where theres no fuckin water. Sorry, but if you do this, you deserve whatever happens. Unfortunately, when these loans inevitably go belly-up, they will have first found their way onto some balance sheet that makes this the US taxpayers problem, same as always

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:37 | 6675781 Shocker
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Great way to keep this recession going!

Layoff / Closing List: http://www.dailyjobcuts.com

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Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:41 | 6675804 Money Counterfeiter
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Free rent!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:49 | 6675836 Stuck on Zero
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Buy it.  Don't make payments.  Live in it for years before being evicted.  Just before being evicted sell all the copper in the house for $$. 

Buy another home ...

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:53 | 6675856 Gaius Frakkin' ...
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The home-flipping "experts" have been adverstising hard on AM radio for a couple of years now.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:58 | 6675893 El Vaquero
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Same here. 

 

"Hi, I'm a douchebag promising you that my get rich quick scheme will work!  Now, show up to my seminar and buy my books and CDs!"

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:38 | 6676093 mtndds
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When is the fake housing market going to finally lay a turd.  I have been waiting for 5 years to buy a house but I refuse to pay the stupid prices that I see here in Los Angeles.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:56 | 6675877 restelle
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No Copper.  They use plastic PEX for plumbing these days.  They're on to it!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:59 | 6675897 El Vaquero
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There is still the wiring, if they didn't use aluminum.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:15 | 6675982 l8apex
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Make sure the builder throws in the appliances when you buy.  They should be fairly easy to resell.  Same with the A/C, garage door openers, lighting fixtures, and faucets I would guess.

 

Jeez, who even needs copper pipe to turn a profit nowadays! 

 

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:50 | 6676171 buzzkillb
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I have seen houses fully stripped last go around. Bath tubs, door frames, duct work, anything nailed down was taken out. Basically just the frame of the house was all that was left. One particular version of this scam moved to a house a few blocks away to do the same over and over and over.

I heard a problem with pex is that the rats will chew through it. So install plex, line with peanut butter, release some rats.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 17:58 | 6677102 JackieG
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How to legally discharge bank debt.

http://www.mindwarpsectorfour.com/creditcard.html

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:20 | 6675703 Ignatius
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"Own..." is knd of a tricky word here.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:25 | 6675731 remain calm
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Tax payers are about to take it up the Keester one more time. Tax payers don't show any resistence, just lie there and let it happen

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:31 | 6675759 Son of Loki
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It's the American two-step:

 

1) lube up real well; and,

2) bend over grab yo' ankles.

 

All the losses will be forced up yo' poop-shoot!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:53 | 6675863 Dickweed Wang
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It's the American two-step: 

1) lube up real well; and,

2) bend over grab yo' ankles.

 

It's called BOHICA . . . Bend Over Here It Comes Again.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:03 | 6675914 RadioFlyer
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*grab yo' cankles

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:30 | 6676051 upWising
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BENT OVER :: It's called the Freedom Position.

SPREAD EAGLE, PALMS AGAINST THE WALL, WITH POLICE PISTOL AIMED :: It's called The Patriot Position.

 

AMERCIA!!   Jesus' Favorite Country!!  ©     (A-mur-CIA)

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:33 | 6675764 Tyrone Shoelaces
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The bitches were asking for it!

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:43 | 6675812 insanelysane
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Every day the number of tax payers gets smaller.  Resistance is futile.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:46 | 6675829 Stuck on Zero
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The government doesn't need taxpayers any more.  It has printing presses.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:54 | 6675865 eatthebanksters
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Looks like the Vegas market has really recovered, eh?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:58 | 6675890 Beowulf55
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That is because tax payers are dead and the government loves necrophilia.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:30 | 6675751 booboo
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The same goes for "money"

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:21 | 6675712 JRobby
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They are the bank

That should work out super great!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:31 | 6675760 BullyBearish
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Short LEN

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:52 | 6676175 buzzkillb
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Time to look at SRS yet again?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:57 | 6675885 J in Vegas
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As someone who lives in Mountains Edge,  the SW part of Las Vegas, the home  building is off the charts. It will not end well.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:14 | 6675669 knukles
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Out in my area, there's a parcel of land being developed into single family homes with lots starting at $400k.
It's a flood plain!
And the county et al have approved.  Payola anybody?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:18 | 6675691 drink or die
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Yeah but when it floods and destroys all the homes, think of all the broken windows there will be to stimulate the economy!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:27 | 6675740 813kml
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So you're saying there's plenty of water?

Shut up and take my money!!!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:47 | 6675833 sleigher
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Waterfront property always has a premium.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:57 | 6675884 Oh regional Indian
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Maybe a mild difference between waterfront and underwater, literally and figuratively?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:34 | 6675768 Tyrone Shoelaces
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Might be a good locale for a new ServPro franchise.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:54 | 6675868 El Vaquero
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Flood plains have a tendency to be good, fertile soil too. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:23 | 6676022 MsCreant
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Yo, VIP, let's kick it! 

Rice, rice, baby! Rice, rice, baby!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 18:28 | 6677186 Sokhmate
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Conducted and formed
This is a hell of a concept

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:14 | 6675674 Philo Beddoe
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Own for $0 money down. Kinda gives the word own a bad wrap. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:25 | 6675728 813kml
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More like $0 security deposit on your new 30+ year (after many refies) rental.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:15 | 6675676 Tarzan
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Owned for $0 Money Down!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:16 | 6675677 Dr. Engali
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Hey assholes, there's a drought going on, stop building houses in the desert! Somebody once said something about building your homes on sand.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:18 | 6675694 Tarzan
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Funny, dark clouds rolling in and all, how apropos....

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:31 | 6675757 Temporalist
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Too bad Sam Kinnison isn't around to "discuss" this. 

https://youtu.be/bjO7QMP4h-Y?t=2m44s

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:41 | 6675769 Dr. Engali
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R.I.P. Sam was one of a kind, that's for sure. Not exactly the person I was refering to, but he will do.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:42 | 6676118 IAmStrider
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Don't worry, El Nino is coming to save CA, NV and the rest of the west from drought!

https://youtu.be/IvmeUStFvz8

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:16 | 6675678 One And Only
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What will that sign say when we have negative rates?

GET PAID INTEREST TO TAKE OUT A HOME LOAN!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:24 | 6675726 Tarzan
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How will that work with an interest only mortgage?  They pay you to keep their house painted and vagrant free through the coming great depression?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:50 | 6675845 Dickweed Wang
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GET PAID INTEREST TO TAKE OUT A HOME LOAN!

 

 

I'll take two please . . . .

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:16 | 6675683 roisaber
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Yup. I saw a big poster on the local Rob-a-bank on the way home from work yesterday advertising that that getting a second mortgage is a "thing" again.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:19 | 6675695 Dr. Engali
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$0 money down? 

 

Kills me every time thet refer to a debt based promissory note as money. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:19 | 6675706 Kaiser Sousa
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"let me show you how to flip houses and make millions just like me...

go to www.thiscountryisfuckedbeyondrepair.ameridumb

to get my free DVD and sign up for my free Suckerthon coming your way soon...

See you there!"

-Velvet Jones-

 

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:21 | 6675708 Never One Roach
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All backed up by the hard working American taxpayer so sell them as fast as possible, take your profits and pass the losses onto Joe the Plumber.

 

Ain't Merica beautiful!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:55 | 6675872 o r c k
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Ain't it a beaut ? Rather attractive indeed I say.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:58 | 6676199 buzzkillb
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Joe the plumber and other construction trades should have made a killing over the last few years. Joe the greeter may have some issues moving forward.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:21 | 6675710 WTFRLY
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Best news evar

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:22 | 6675716 Groundhog Day
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The clounds are looming in the picture as well

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:23 | 6675720 Spungo
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I'm holding out for 120% loan to value mortgages

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:23 | 6675723 Atomizer
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Can't buy a desert property, because a oasis water tax will follow. Fuck them! Why not use that property as a wildlife sanctuary to preserve sand. 

/LOL. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:25 | 6675729 Bluntly Put
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I'd consider no money down and no payments for 30 years.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:35 | 6675775 Atomizer
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How about financing on a Century Bond IOU?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:07 | 6675925 Evan Wilson
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In my area they usually advertised 40 year mortgages in the last real estate run up, just before it all fell apart.

 

The other variation was 125% LTV mortgage, so people could use the 'extra' money to pay the loan for several months before the money ran out, and then the foreclosure started. Of course, some people didn't do that, but those are only a small number of people.

 

 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:26 | 6675730 Ms No
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Dejavu.  This is going to be a spectacular housing collapse.  I hope I still have enough money to buy a house when they are dirt cheap.   If you can get in between when the banks repo everything and Bernie or Hillary comes to pull the rug out from under you to save the EBT holders, you may get to enjoy a inexpensive paid for house for a couple of years.  Maybe you can rent one out to someone holding government rent vouchers before the gov goes bankrupt and your tenants shit in your basement and burn the place down.

You always have to look at the bright side.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:29 | 6675746 RadioFlyer
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Since you'll never actually own the home (try not paying property taxes), what you say is a great way to get cash flow.  Buy the houses at market crash, then fill with mortgage payers and pocket the difference. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:26 | 6675736 Atomizer
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Agenda 21 failure again. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:26 | 6675737 yogibear
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Cool, no what about no doc's?

Also would like 120% LTV.

Then load up on all the PMs you can and default.

The criminal behavior is back and larger than ever.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:37 | 6675782 Ajax_USB_Port_R...
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Great way to get the homeless off the streets!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:01 | 6676226 buzzkillb
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Don't forget the work visa in another country so you can start out with fresh credit somewhere else. Who could have seen that coming?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:26 | 6675739 RadioFlyer
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All your base are belong to us.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:27 | 6675741 blown income
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Called the number...nobody answered....Recovery !

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:31 | 6675758 Ajax_USB_Port_R...
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There HAS to be a way to consolidate a student loan into a $0 down home loan.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:33 | 6675766 Atomizer
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David Foster...Ghetto tracker. Watch his video. Hilarious! 

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sites/ghetto-tracker

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:37 | 6675779 atomicwasted
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So what?  Some lender is willing to lend at no money down and take that risk.  Who cares?  There is nothing magical about a 20% down payment.  It was part of our US financial culture for a while, just like how in some countries you bring a suitcase full of money to a closing, or how in some countries you typically have longer or shorter mortgages.  Absent fraud or coercion, a down payment amount is between the lender and the borrower.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:46 | 6675810 Dickweed Wang
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Absent fraud or coercion, a down payment amount is between the lender and the borrower.

Absolutely!!  I know there are a LOT of people out there that could actually reduce their monthly housing costs by being able to buy a house instead of renting but they haven't been able to do this because of the stringent 20% down requirements that have been in place since 2009 or so.  There is a big difference between being able to afford the monthly mortgage payment and having $30-50K in cash to put down on a house.  With rent going through the roof in most areas of the country the lower down payment requirement seems like it could be a great help to a lot of people in reducing their monthly housing payment.

Also, it seems to me that the last time there were problems with all those under performing mortgages it was because the lenders were allowing people to get mortgages without doing the due diligence to make sure they could pay the monthly payment.  The problems were not related to reduced or zero down payment requirements.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:05 | 6675894 Yen Cross
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   Your comment is absurd. First of all it wasn't just the zero down crap. It was the zero down 120% LTV interest only for 3 years farce, and the fact that banks let buyers use their houses like ATM's to take out HELOC lines of credit against their ponzi equity.

   Owning property is entirely different then renting it. Property taxes, insurance, upkeep, ect... If someone can't at least come up with a reasonable down payment what are they going to do if they suddenly find themselves in a cash pinch? Do you actually buyers looking for a zero down deal have 20% in the bank saved for a rainy day?

  Home ownership was never meant to be month to month ,hand to mouth proposition. Most of those buyers know they can't afford the property and plan to walk away with as little financial exposure as possible, when they default on it.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:18 | 6675993 NevadaMirage
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VA mortgages have offered zero-down (and no PMI) for decades yet they are the best performing fed.gov backed loans, even though the first meltdown.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:00 | 6675907 o r c k
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Yeah, I guess you wouldn't want the mortgage to be longer than the avg. life span.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:42 | 6675809 semperfi
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vote Bernie - he'll give us FREE HOUSING !!   I want my FREE STUFF - its my RIGHT just for being born American dammit

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:52 | 6675855 Ms No
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You wont need to be born American.  Shortly they will probably steal everyones 401K to pay for EBTs and housing vouchers for the waves of immigrants that will let in from Mexico, S America and the ME collapsing.  It's only the right thing to do.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:17 | 6675989 MsCreant
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Give them Detroit? Would that be worse than what is there now?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:00 | 6676221 flysofree
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You should try using your brain once in awhile. The people buying those houses, are stupid White people like you. They turned Summerlin, a desert into a green valley. It's more green there than in South Florida. The whole of Paradise with ample housing and commercial space is falling into disrepair, yet they keep moving White people farther and farther into the desert like cockroaches.

There are new shopping malls in the foothills everywhere yet the old ones are just sitting there empty and these slum kings don't even bother picking piles of garbage that accumulates there.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:46 | 6675827 Yen Cross
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 lmfao. This has Tom Vu written all over it.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 13:49 | 6675842 Dogspurt
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This is a bizarre definition of 'ownership'. Just as the availability of 5x joint income or 105% mortages in the UK, or ' multiple generation' loans in Japan were clear indicators that house prices had surpassed bust levels, this is a sign that the only way from here is down. Hard.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:15 | 6675980 MsCreant
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Bag holder is the term you are looking for, not owner.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:06 | 6675931 Bunga Bunga
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I'll wait till negative rate offsets the premium. Free housing bitchez!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:08 | 6675943 Bunga Bunga
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"Own on a loan"

is an oxymoroan.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:14 | 6675971 MsCreant
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It makes me garoan!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:12 | 6675963 MsCreant
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I want to own the MBS on this! I'm going to be bailed out! Oh boy!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:12 | 6675965 Jack Burton
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"Too much cheap money in the system". That always leads to this sort of crazy thing! Developers and their investors were chasing a return above zero. So they build houses in Vegas! The money is cheap for developer and investor, money is cheap for the buyer. What we will have is another army of underwater home buyers begging Government "Please , we need a bail out". or "Obama gonna pay my mortatge!" Which ever way you look at it, the money printing, ZIRP, financialized, manipulated markets spell disaster.

Capitalism without self correct in just a fancy dress version of Communism. Central Bank has come to mean Central Committee of the Communist Party". Only this revolution was by the 1% for the 1%. I challange someone to argue that that this was not "A Revoultion From Above" "A Revolution of the Elites against Civil Society". Face it, Lenin and Stalin have been replaced by Central Bankers.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:14 | 6675972 NevadaMirage
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Storm clouds are building in that picture.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:23 | 6676023 Teh Finn
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My realator was trying to get me to buy a house 5x the amount I was shopping for.  "You can afford a lot more house..."

Yeah, but I DON'T WANT TO.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:31 | 6676056 MsCreant
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Living within or even under your means? Un-American! 

5X realator commission. 5X upkeep on the house. 5X less freedom in other ways due to enslavement to mortgage payment.

Your realator is rude and obvious. Get another one, closing will be hell.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:36 | 6676063 Teh Finn
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She was instrumental in getting me on the terrorist watch list and the no fly list.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:27 | 6676037 the grateful un...
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you have to bring your own water

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:33 | 6676069 Haager
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0 money down, 120+% loan, and the extra cash stuffed in stocks with gains used to pay the expenses. What can possibly go wrong...

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:35 | 6676082 Born2Bwired
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Live on the edge of Phoenix. There are at least 500 homes under construction in a three mile radius of where we live. Never seen anything like it. The development next door they have 100 houses framing and plan to build another 1000 there.

Property taxes went up about 10% this year as well. No idea who has the money to buy these houses except those retiring to the area. Will not end well. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:42 | 6676115 Yttrium Gold Ni...
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They are Baraaaaaaack!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:44 | 6676124 Hohum
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It's not enough.  The ads have to offer a house AND money.

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 14:59 | 6676211 Zero-Hegemon
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LOOK at all those NINJAs lining up to buy!

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:47 | 6676491 American Psycho
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Going long 10 rental properties. 

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 15:48 | 6676497 Graph
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"Invisible hand of market" does what it needs to.

Why suprise?

Fri, 10/16/2015 - 16:23 | 6676728 corporatewhore
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this is all good  until you loose your job.  Choices: Walk away, debt slavery, some HAMP program (crock of shit nonsense)

i think i'll sit out this dance

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 01:36 | 6678321 honestann
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Or... wait one year and buy for 2/3 the price.  Or two years for 1/2 price.  Or three years for 1/3 price.  Inflation adjusted, of course!

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