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NATO Member Turkey Shoots Down Drone Of Unknown Origin On Border With Syria
Over the course of Russia’s involvement in Syria, the tension between Moscow and Ankara has grown steadily.
In short, NATO-member Turkey has accused Russian fighter jets of violating its airspace as they buzz the border on the way to hitting anti-regime targets. The escalation of hostilities between the two countries now threatens to derail billions in trade and energy deals as Erdogan recently warned Putin that Ankara may go elsewhere for its natural gas needs.
Ultimately, it isn’t about Turkey’s airspace. It’s about Ankara wanting Assad gone and Moscow wanting Assad to remain in power and indeed, the US is already using a Turkish air base as a kind of forward operating center for bombing runs, meaning NATO may well use Turkey to float conflict trial balloons to see just what the West can get away with in terms of challenging the Russians in Syria (incidentally, Erdogan has an election coming up in two weeks and a key part of the push to restore AKP's absolute majority in parliament is scaring the public into believing that Turkey is under attack and only a strong government can save it). And here's proof of that assessment:
- US OFFICIAL SAYS SUSPECTS DRONE WAS A RUSSIAN DRONE: RTRS
- UNITED STATES SUSPECTS THAT PLANE SHOT DOWN BY TURKEY WAS A RUSSIAN DRONE AIRCRAFT - U.S. OFFICIAL TELLS REUTERS
With that in mind, consider that just moments ago, Turkey shot down an unmanned drone that Ankara says violated its airspace:
- TURKEY MILITARY SAYS SHOT DOWN AIRCRAFT AT SYRIA BORDER
- TURKEY'S NTV SAYS SHOT-DOWN AIRCRAFT WAS UNMANNED DRONE
And here's the official statement (Google translated):
Today nationalities in our country's airspace at the border with Syria has been detected an unknown aircraft, although be warned three times on continuing to move our aircraft performing patrols on the border by the rules of engagement it has been reduced by fire in the frame.
Turkish Armed Forces is implementing with determination in the framework of the duties assigned to rules of engagement. "
Meanwhile, it was determined that lowering the unmanned vehicle.
Russian planes had previously violated the Syrian border Turkish airspace.
Yes, it has been "reduced by fire in the frame."
So basically, Turkey just shot down a Russian drone. Or at least that's the way it looks, as it would be peculiar if the Turkish army somehow didn't know the locations of US drones in the region.
From Russia with love:
- RUSSIA SAYS DRONES IN SYRIA FUNCTIONING NORMALLY: RIA
- RUSSIA SAYS ALL PLANES IN SYRIA RETURNED TO BASE: RIA
The lira and the ruble are not happy:
- RUBLE EXTENDS DECLINES AGAINST DOLLAR, DROPS 1.1%
- LIRA EXTENDS LOSS VS DOLLAR AFTER STATEMENT FROM TURKEY ARMY
Look out, because this may very well be the event that takes the "proxy" out of Syria's proxy war. All eyes on what, if anything, Moscow - and NATO - will respond with.
Here are the images from the scene, one of which apparently shows part of the wreckage:
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Stop talking to my wife's best friend.
is a ............ master at international coalition building to fight terrorist. He delivers !!!! He promised to rid the MiddleEast of terrorist, right? He's doing it--they are all getting out of the middle east and getting refugee status in Europe and the USA. (Feeling sarcasm this morning--good coffee)
Isn't a drone a type of proxy? So I fail to see how a drone can take the proxy out of a proxy war. If anything it makes it proxier - the proxiest being a drone shooting down another drone.
I should probably copyright those two...
I could only think Jimmy Hendrix and Proxy Lady...
You’re embarrassing, as usual. Iran, Iraq, Israel, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, terrorists, have got drones. Turkey has got them…
For ruskie trolls:
https://youtu.be/Y45N7JseKug
https://youtu.be/7DCa1aWWZGE
:D
Reality doesn't change either you like it or not except for those who live in a denial and act like deluded morons.
Message, are you on the paylist of the ukies puppet shithead regime? You are vomiting the same shit all the time - same as Porko jew..
whats the stupid smilie face? are you a 14 years old retard? well... you are
The only troll here is you, Mr. Latvian Bo(y|t). Even your avatar is from Android OS, that makes you a bot by definition.
Go Putin!!
So, the whole fuss is over a plastic piece of crap two feet in diameter? Turks got too much time on their hands and MSM have too little 'news'.
They got elections coming up.
Ah, that explains is. 'External' enemy for mobilizing the 'patriots', right out of Goering's handbook of practical manipulation.
Erdogan is going to blow this whole episode up. He needs an external enemy or an internal threat to win the elections.
He just shot himself in the foot:
"Turkey to go on a list of "safe countries" " = Kurds from Turkey will not be accepted in EU as refugees any more.
Guess what those turkish Kurds will be doing to Turkey once completely cornered?
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/10/14/uk-europe-migrants-germany-turkey-idUKKCN0S82BN20151014
I bet that thing just bombed a wedding or was transferring weapons to terrorists.
Russian bastards, exactly something they would do.....
Oatmeal brained is a high insult in Putin's world .... as oats are for horses (during good times) .... it's equivalent to saying brain full of mush .... as corn is to slop the hogs, cornbread the "niggers" and feed the Mexicunts ?
Don't tell me Turkey shot down a NATO drone?
Latvian troll, a.k.a. viedoklis_lv, a.k.a. freedom123, a.k.a. newsoutlet, a.k.a. message
In the seige of Leningrad .... the highly coveted wall paper paste .... was made from oats !
and in the siege of Sodom and Gomorrah your friends got nuked but keep forgetting what for
http://www.theeventchronicle.com/media/documentary/evidence-of-nuclear-war-in-the-distant-past-the-destruction-of-sodom-and-gomorrah/
Egyptians violated the NPT?
The United States is not interested in meeting with a Russian delegation of military top brass to coordinate actions in Syria until Moscow changes its approach to fighting terrorists in the country, White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said in a briefing on Wednesday.
http://sputniknews.com/politics/20151014/1028536556/us-russia-syrian-str...
here is the picture:
http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/kimin-ihasini-dusurduk-40002662
That's not it .... the thing that fell from the sky .... was twin tail fuselage ?
Really, that's tiny. That's not a drone, that's someone's RC toy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POJtaO2xB_o
From the size, it has maybe 20-30 minute flight time and line of sight only control though the antenna sticking out the top indicates it's probably 27MHz. It's off the shelf RC kit technology anyone can build. It's not an Orlan-10. You can see the crocodile clip on top of the engine, that's there to heat a "glow plug" which indicates it uses RC fuel containing synthetic or castor oil.
Seriously this is someone's RC toy. False flag and a crappy attempt at one at that, or a "home made" rebel fighter drone.
Orlan 10:
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlan-10#/media/File:UAV_Orlan-10.JPG
With camera:
https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlan-10#/media/File:Integrated_Safety_and...
What I will say is that it's approximately the same colour.
That wasnt a Russian or NATO drone, that was my toy remote control plane.....fuck will have to ask Santa for another one.
The pics are of a fake, or they are of something else
1. first image shows people in a hilly area other images are of a flat area
2. Third image clearly shows bush beside the back tire of the heli image 2 there is no bush
3. There are people in images 2 and 3 of normally dressed people walking around.
4 blades of heli are in different positions (maybe the engines were whining down it just an observation)
5 its funny in image 1 that no one is looking at the wreckage, Okay one guy is kinda glancing in that direction. what is everyone else doing there. and why are there civilians nest to it?
Maybe I am just jaded.
"Maybe I am just jaded."
'Jaded' is a pretty common state of mind on ZH. I was telling a friend the other day that the only emotions I can honestly express these days are bitterness and road rage.
I can't seem to see the up-curled wing section in the distance shot that is shown in the close-up.
And, the distance shot of the drone also shows more rocky ground than the close-up shot does. The distance shot seems to suggest that one should see rocks next to the "drone" in the close-up, but the close-up only has dried grass, no rocks visible.
It's possible they moved the corpse around for photogenic reasons.
€3 bln in immediate aid
http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/news/199015/
for a tiny drone toy
that's a new easy way to make money
Note to dumb-ass Russians: keep you planes on the right side of the border, and they won't get shot down.
It's really not that hard.
"^^ Member for 3 weeks 2 days"
Guaranteed he's been an asshole for a lot longer than that.
OK, but the REAL issue is how long he's been a PAID asshole!
Oh, you probably think you are intelligent, right? Don't bother, that was a rhetorical question.
Artificial Intelligence.
You're assuming 1. its Russian, 2. if 1, then the drone was not jammed and came down on its own.
M17 was shot down by Ukrainians.
If you mean Ukrainian rebels instigated, armed, supplied, and reinforced by Russians, you are probably right.
Looks like someone got that piss-ass drone at a local hobby shop.
What does that acronym "CIA" stand for?
Goldman Sachs Military Arm or Murder Inc.
Corrupt Instigating Assholes
I doubt anyone "owns" airspace anymore. Seems like after Bush's pre-emptive invasion of sovereign countries the only law is "might makes right."
wedding drone?
perhaps children party drone
Turkey and Syria are no enemies. Turkey needs war in Syria like a hole in the head. Turkey was booming when things were quiet in Syria. Now tourists are scared and do therefore come not in the numbers expected.
Business with Syria stopped, lots of refugees in Turkey, Nato is stirring up things in Turkey trying to keep Erdogan in line. Turkeys military is divided, parts of it are loyal to Erdogan and parts are controlled by Nato.
There is nothing Turkey could win with the war in Syria. Or does anybody think that Turkey was part of the game and would have received a share of the blunder? Why should that be the case? Israel would be the biggest winner, followed by France and UK. The US would have firmed their grip on Kurdistan, so Kurdish resources would have been US - for ever.
No more Syrian state as it exists now = The now still Syria owned Golan Heights with Lake Tiberias (Israels biggest water resource) and lots of oil would become Israel owned. Oil production at Golan Heights started already. Syria would be divided and Israel would grasp the best part which is vital for them. When Syria stays as it is now, then one can expect sooner or later that Israel has to give back the Golan to Syria and that is the last thing Israel wants. Destroying Syria would also destroy Hezbollah in Lebanon, so that Israel would get rid of their only formidable resistance.
The plan is to destroy Syria, divide it in nice chunks and give a shit about the population, whether in Syria, Lebanon, Turkey or Kurdistan or anywhere around except Israel.
Erdogan might become soon the same persona non grata as Assad is now. Terrorist acts might soon be more frequent in Turkey. It would be logical, given Erdogans close cooperation with Russia and nowadays also with the EU. That is nothing the empire wants to continue. Assad was cooperating with Russia and now Erdogan is doing the same. Turkey might soon share the fate os Syria, its all in the cards.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/1.677188
Turkey and the EU and Russia are working together now in the open. That is a geopolitical shift. Whether the US nor Nato nor the UK do have a saying in it. Only France is part of the deal somehow since France is part of Schengen. But France has no choice. All other Schenegen members do want the deal with Erdogan.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/turkey-wins-favourable-terms-eu-exchange-helpin...
Turkey is the most unstable part of this new deal. So one can expect a lot of surprising action in Turkey within the coming months or otherwise the empire is becoming slowly obsolete in the Mediterrean.
The only thing left then is the Suez Canal which needs still the cover of the empire to ensure the flow of goods.
"Or does anybody think that Turkey was part of the game and would have received a share of the blunder?"
Here is the first EUR 3bln. instalment approved last night just before the "drone went down"
http://www.businessnewsworld.com/news/eu-meets-turkeys-demand-for-3-bln-to-tackle-migrant-crisis.html
Freshly printed and 'legal tender'
Eradicate banker scum!
Lake Tiberias, or the Sea of Galilee, is not in the Golan Heights. It is below the Golan Heights and is not "occupied Syrian Territory". At least get your "facts" straight.
It ain't Syrian territory anymore. That's what happens when you run away.
If Syria wants it back then they know what they have to do.
NEOCON SCUM MUST DIE!
No tail number? Must be Isreali
Can anyone explain to me why this plastic toy plane is a big deal? And they saw the need to show up with a massive military helicopter? In case "the drone" it is "still alive" or mabye "manned" after all?
"Can anyone explain to me why this plastic toy plane is a big deal?"
It's all they had that they could fit with the story of Russians trying to take over the planet. Things aer moving so fast right now that the prop department just can't keep up with all the work!
It was a Turkish drone
If you look closely you can see the propeller on the fuselage nose at the left side of the photo. Also the vertical antenna attached to the top of the fuselage is clearly visible. The tail section has been detached. This is nothing more than a glorified radio-controlled model airplane used for primitive survelliance. No one is going to war over this, not even in the demented middle east.
"No one is going to war over this, not even in the demented middle east."
Insane people don't think in a rational manner.
But you would hope people who post stories here would be a little less excitable.
If you can go to war over bottle rockets that land in farm fields, you can go to war over anything.
Stop, listen what's that sound.....it's one of NATO's decoy drones, going down...
Turkey has "played" both sides of the fence, which makes for a "sticky wicket". Now they must choose a side and neither side will have pity and the only reason for its NATO membership is it location; so they are already being used by Langley (Al-CIAda HQ). People will do anything for money. I hope the people of Turkey take to Pentagon Puppet out of office by vote or by hook.
That toy is what they're willing to start a war for? This whole freaking world is insane.
The democratic West pissed at Russia eradicating terrorists that kill and torture, especially Christians.... the same West that is diluting their used to be Christian nations. Maybe insane but there appears an agenda here.
You know,,, I think I seen that toy in another pic sometime ago but just can't place where...
This whole freaking world is insane
Amen.
Just check out CNN's "top stories":
Is mysterious 'space anomaly' a sign of alien life?
Lamar Odom spent $75k at brothel
Turkish Air Force shoots down drone
Pope Francis meets Chilean miners
Why Russia is ramping up in Syria
Intercept leak reveals drone war secrets
Yes, and the news about the 'space anomaly' is old news too, three days if not longer infact. SETI team is investigating it, there is something blocking a huge chunk of light from a star that is like our own. The planet there also looks promising, but i wouldn't go as far as to say its a sign of alien life, might as well be something else, they proclaim its a dyson sphere, somehow i doubt it, but for some reason there are more articles being put out that are alien life related. Both CNN and RT put that news article out almost at the same time. Guess it sells :P Also Lamar Odom.. died on cocaine, and spents 75k at a brothel.. wtf, how is this news, /o\
You are correct to a degree in that according to Scripture, we, the US, have been give over to a reprobate mind in a series of degenerating steps shown in Romans 1:18-32, we have crossed the "death cross", where God gives the nation over to our own devices; it is the point where He removes His restraints (because we first abandoned His ways) and allows us to go our own way and that is always downhill. We are witnessing the beginning of it, which is the scary part, for it only gets more absurd from here in ways we once thought we unimaginable has become reality...has anyone noticed?
Nope.
This always happens when the retards run the show.
Read it on zerohedge first, then a few hours later it shows up in a article on CNN, right on cue for the propaganda parade, then i expect RT to rehash it and also commence with the propaganda. By the way, in Isreal the tomb of Joseph was set on fire, this is going to enrage so many religious folks, somehow i doubt we'd get peace on earth as a present on Christmas eve this year.
Yep, the Israelis have been shooting Palestinian children but the big story is Palestinians fighting back.
You mean Arab children and Arabs are fighting back, for there is a region called Palestine, but no such thing as a Palestinian, that implies such a nation exists; the term is new only to recent history. There are plenty of Arabs living in the region called Palestine and if the Arabs really loved their brothers and sisters then they would give up some of their nations land as a "love gift" to establish a nation that can be called Palestine. That would solve most of the issues.
As far as the murder of children; no one does it better than the US in places named "Planned Parenthood". If one is pregnant, it is a baby and human at that. Pro choice is simply the liberty to murder an unwanted baby legally; that simple. I digress. People everywhere devalue human life and history proves it is true across the globe and across the landscape of time.
Have you never read; "man is BORN to trouble as sparks fly upward"? Never in man's history has there been peace (except two small periods) nor will there ever be until God, the Prince of Peace, rids the earth of all the scum. And He will in His time.
This 'drone' was sent into a suicide mission to id the locations of ISIS training camps and arm route from Turkey.
Now it's flying and intercoursing about with 72 virgin dronettes.
Would anyone really want the job of servicing 72 Islamic women for eternity, even if they were vigins?
Can you imagine the smell? And who's gonna feed them?
And when they sync up, you'd better get those hygeine product delivered by truck.
And about the women....what reward does an Islamic woman get for martyring themselves? Is it 72 bone hard Islamic men? Is that their deam come true?
My bet is that they'd take a goat. At least you can make some cheese and kababs out of them.
judging from that one photo it looks more like the drone crashed on its own and wasn't "shot down"
That looks like a media drone
"Come on 'Dillos! Let's get it on!"
Im sure if you peel the cover off you'll find styrofoam...
its their own drone its just shameful for them to admit it theyve shot down their own drone
Midget aliens sending an explaratory party. Wrong fucking place to chose of course, proving once again that not all alien life is intelligent.
What was it shot down by.....a catapult? Looks remarkably undamaged.
1) A bullet or two in the wings followed by crash?
2) Or at high velocty smashing into a catapulted rock ?
The destructive power of rocks is not the problem, it is the accuracy of them.
1) A bullet or two in the wings followed by crash?
2) Or at high velocty smashing into a catapulted rock ?
The destructive power of rocks is not the problem, it is the accuracy of them.
Unknown Origin?
Was there a hospital or wedding near by?
What??? Only 2 government schills on duty this morning. Well lets ask them, they are so honest and knowledable. The unquestioned authority.
And they are so hard to distinguish among the crowd seeking truth I barely noticed they were here! Let us never underestimate the US .gov strategy with such covert skill sets on display!!
Monetas and Message, what would we ever do without your insightful, trustworth,y authoritive, sensational, opinions?
Ion pulse cannon at work. 24 deep cycle batteries mounted on a truck. Range is 1/2 mile at best. Also acts as mini EMP.
Available on Amazon under "sister fucking war profiteers selling used army surplus".
Oddly the drone's name is Sarajevo. What does that mean?
The official version says about a 'unknown aircraft', later found to be an 'unmanned vehicle'. Then 'Russians planes had previously violated the Syrian border Tuskish airspace"
Well... According to the general Western anti-Russia hysteria, if that drone were any Russian, the news would have been - with very high-pitched loud voice : 'Russian drone! Russian drone! Badrussians!
Is that a Russian drone or not?
Funnily, the Tuskish airforce is very keen to show off its drone-shooting skills. (Maybe they actually shot down the entire PKK airforce)
They were less prone to show off when a unknown MiG-29 scared the shit off 8 Turkish F-16 by 'locking them up' for 4 abnd half minutes a couple of days ago.
I don't know if knocking some kid's airplane down counts as a drone shootdown.
http://moneyweek.com/wp/hands-off-our-cash-petition-em
Just a Malaysian Airlines drone scouting for new routes.
Pure class thank you.
The toy plane looks like it fell on its own ,and it spooked the turkeys.
Bevare: Giant drone of mass destruction.
That was a close call, well done turkey! You saved the day!
You know the way out of all this goofed up madness is simple.
Disconnect from sites like this and live your life as true to yourself as you can. There is an addictive nature to all this to wanting to know what's going on but I will tell you point blank that all this same nonsense has been going on since goats were a form of currency.
Live a true life as best you can, think clearly, love deeply. don't get attached to things or people.
Your wanting for things is your prison if you look at the rich and say, "Why not me?" you have already lost.
Count yourself lucky when you don't care how much others have because that is the only true freedom there is. I like stuff as much as the next person but if you quest after it then the quest begins to rule you.
Doesn't matter if it's a girl, a car, a house, a job or whatever it is. Those who have that sickness the worst and are the most cunning with the most guile and least concious rule us and they ALWAYS HAVE!
They rule us because they want to more than we want to rid ourselves of them and this will ALWAYS be the case.
The spiritual conundrum of fixing this is like trying to rid the earth mules. You can exterminate all of them tomorrow and the next day you could see one pop right back up.
The leason of life is to live life. Others don't play fair so if you play just know that you will have to sell your soul and play for keeps to play in that arena. How much is your soul worth?
It's a test, a spiritual one if you play the game you lose automatically.
The proof is in what this country has become, from the most noble roots has sprung the leading canditate for the most materialist nation on earth.
You can not win this game of things unless you don't play but that's not sexy so carry on.
:)
Dupe
One star.
O, boy
An other suicide attack in Ankara or Istanbul ?
Is that Hasbro printed on the wingtip?
The end game is coming into view!
More on the agenda here......
http://beforeitsnews.com/global-unrest/2015/10/total-enslavement-the-un-...
Cylons have finally found Earth