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The Fall Of The Unipower: Russia Is Defeating More Than ISIS In Syria
Submitted by Paul Craig Roberts,
The distinguished and knowledgeable international commentator William Engdahl, in a superb statement, has expressed the view I gave you that Russian President Vladimir Putin’s speech on September 28 at the 70th anniversary of the United Nations changed the balance of power in the world. Until Putin’s speech the world was intimidated by the Washington Bully. Resistance to Washington brought swift retribution. In the Middle East and Africa it brought economic sanctions and military invasions that destroyed entire countries. In France and other US vassal states it brought multi-billion dollar confiscations of bank net worth as the price of not following Washington’s policies toward other countries.
Other countries felt powerless in the face of the arrogant hegemonic Unipower, which from time to time replied to noncompliance with threats, such as US Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage delivered to Pakistan, to bomb noncompliant countries “back to the stone age.”
President Putin of Russia brought all that to end on September 28. He stood up before the world in the presence of the overflowing hubris of the hegemon and belled the cat.
Putin denounced Washington’s threat to the sovereignty, and therefy the freedom, of peoples and countries. He denounced the heartless criminality of Washington’s destruction of the lives of millions of peoples on the basis of nothing other than Washington’s own arrogance. He denouced the illegality of Washington’s assauts on the sovereignty of other peoples, and declared that Russia can no longer tolerate this state of affairs in the world.
Two days later he took over the war in Syria and began exterminating the Washington financed and equiped Islamic State. Cruise missiles launched from the Caspian Sea hit ISIL targets with pinpoint accuracy and showed Washington’s EU vassals that Washington’s ABM system could not protect them if Europe permitted Washington to force Europe into conflict with Russia.
Washington’s response was more lies: “the missiles hit Iran,” said the idiots in Washington. The entire world laughed at the lie. Washington, some said, is whistling past its empire’s own graveyard.
Putin’s declaration of multi-polarity was seconded by the President of China, who said in his understated mild way that every country must participate in shaping the future and not just follow the leadership of one.
The hegemonic Unipower ceased to exist on September 28.
This is a sea change. It will affect the behavior of every government. Even some of the craven vassals states, whose “leaders” are bought-and-paid-for, will move toward a more independent foreign policy.
The remaining danger is the crazed American neoconservatives. I know many of them. They are completely insane ideologues. This inhuman filth has controlled the foreign policy of every US government since Clinton’s second term. They are a danger to all life on earth. Look at the destruction they have wreaked in the former Yugoslavia, in Ukraine, in Georgia and South Ossetia, in Africa, in Afghanistan and the Middle East. The American people were too brainwashed by lies and by political impotence to do anything about it, and Washington’s vassals in Europe, UK, Canada, Australia, and Japan had to pretend that this policy of international murder was “bringing freedom and democracy.”
The crazed filth that controls US foreign policy is capable of defending US hegemony with nuclear weapons. The neoconsevatives must be removed from power, arrested, and put on international trial for their horrendous war crimes before they defend their hegemony with Armageddon.
Neoconservatives and their allies in the military/security complex make audacious use of false flag attacks. These evil people are capable of orchestrating a false flag attack that propells the US and Russia to war.
The neocons are also capable of plotting Putin’s assassination. The crazed John McCain, whom idiotic Arizonians keep returning to the US Senate, has publicly called for Putin’s death, as have other former federal officials, such as former CIA official Herbert E. Meyer, who publicly called for Putin’s removal “wih a bullet hole in the back of his head.” I am confident that the neoconservatives are plotting Putin’s assassination with their Chechen terrorist friends. Unlike the US president, Putin often presents himself in open situations.
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Here is William Engdahl’s superb statement from the New Eastern Outlook, October 15, 2015. It is clear that the neoconservatives are not sufficiently realistic to accept this change in the power balance and will resist it to the point of war.
Putin is Defeating More than ISIS in Syria — William Engdahl
Russia and its President, Vladimir Putin, a little more than a year ago, in July 2014 were the focus of attention in Europe and North America, accused, without a shred of forensic evidence, of shooting down an unarmed civilian Malaysian airliner over eastern Ukraine. The Russians were deemed out to restore the Soviet Union with their agreement to the popular referendum of Crimean citizens to annex into the Russian Federation and not Ukraine. Western sanctions were being thrown at Russia by both Washington and the EU. People spoke of a new Cold War. Today the picture is changing, and profoundly. It is Washington that is on the defensive, exposed for the criminal actions it has been doing in Syria and across the Middle East, including creating the recent asylum crisis in Germany and large parts of the EU.
As a student of international politics and economics for most of my adult life, I must say the emotional restraint that Vladimir Putin and the Russian government have shown against tasteless ad hominem attacks, from people such as Hillary Clinton who likened Putin to Adolf Hitler, is remarkable. But more than restraint is required to bring our world from the brink or some might say, the onset of a World War III. Brilliant and directed action is essential. Here something extraordinary has taken place in the very few days since President Vladimir Putin’s September 28, UNGA speech in New York.
What he said . . .
What Putin said to the UN General Assembly must be noted to put what he and Russia did in the days immediately following into clear focus. First of all he made clear what the international law behind the UN Charter means and that Russia is scrupulously abiding by the Charter in actions in Syria. Russia, unlike the US, has been formally asked by the legitimate Syrian government to aid its war against terror.
To the UN delegates and heads of state Putin stated, “The decisions debated within the UN are either taken in the form of resolutions or not. As diplomats say, they either pass or they don’t. Any action taken by circumventing this procedure is illegitimate and constitutes a violation of the UN Charter and contemporary international law.”
He continued, “We all know that after the end of the Cold War the world was left with one center of dominance, and those who found themselves at the top of the pyramid were tempted to think that, since they are so powerful and exceptional, they know best what needs to be done and thus they don’t need to reckon with the UN, which, instead of rubber-stamping the decisions they need, often stands in their way.”
Putin followed this with a clear message to Washington and NATO governments on the subject of national sovereignty, something anathema to many who embrace the Nirvana supposed to come from globalization, homogenization of all to one level: “What is the meaning of state sovereignty, the term which has been mentioned by our colleagues here?” Putin rhetorically asked. “It basically means freedom, every person and every state being free to choose their future. By the way, this brings us to the issue of the so-called legitimacy of state authorities. You shouldn’t play with words and manipulate them. In international law, international affairs, every term has to be clearly defined, transparent and interpreted the same way by one and all.”
Putin added, “We are all different, and we should respect that. Nations shouldn’t be forced to all conform to the same development model that somebody has declared the only appropriate one. We should all remember the lessons of the past. For example, we remember examples from our Soviet past, when the Soviet Union exported social experiments, pushing for changes in other countries for ideological reasons, and this often led to tragic consequences and caused degradation instead of progress.”
Those few words succinctly point to what is fundamentally wrong in the international order today. Nations, above all the one proclaiming herself Sole Superpower, Infallible Hegemon, the USA, have arrogantly moved after the collapse of the main adversary, the Soviet Union in 1990, to create what can only be called a global totalitarian empire, what G.H.W. Bush in his September 11, 1991 address to Congress called a New World Order. I believe with conviction that borders do matter, that respect for different cultures, different historical experiences is essential in a world of peace. That is as much true with nations as with individual human beings. We seem to have forgotten that simple notion amid all the wars of the past decades. Vladimir Putin reminds us.
Then the Russian president goes to the heart of the matter. He lays bare the true activities of the Obama Administration in Syria and the Middle East in arming and training “moderate” Islamist terrorists to attack Washington’s bête noire, Syria’s duly-elected and recently re-elected President, Bashar al Assad.
Putin states, “instead of learning from other people’s mistakes, some prefer to repeat them and continue to export revolutions, only now these are “democratic” revolutions. Just look at the situation in the Middle East and Northern Africa…problems have been piling up for a long time in this region, and people there wanted change. But what was the actual outcome? Instead of bringing about reforms, aggressive intervention rashly destroyed government institutions and the local way of life. Instead of democracy and progress, there is now violence, poverty, social disasters and total disregard for human rights, including even the right to life.”
Then in a remark addressed to Washington and their NGO Color Revolutions known as the Arab Spring, Putin pointedly asks, “I’m urged to ask those who created this situation: do you at least realize now what you’ve done?“
Putin, without naming it, addresses the US and NATO role in creating ISIS, noting with precision the curious anomaly that the sophisticated new US Treasury unit to conduct financial sanctions against terrorist organizations, has utterly ignored the funding sources of ISIS, their oil sales facilitated by the Turkish President’s own family to name just one. The Russian President stated, “…the Islamic State itself did not come out of nowhere. It was initially developed as a weapon against undesirable secular regimes. Having established control over parts of Syria and Iraq, Islamic State now aggressively expands into other regions. It seeks dominance in the Muslim world and beyond…The situation is extremely dangerous. In these circumstances, it is hypocritical and irresponsible to make declarations about the threat of terrorism and at the same time turn a blind eye to the channels used to finance and support terrorists, including revenues from drug trafficking, the illegal oil trade and the arms trade.
And what Putin is doing . . .
Russia in the last weeks has completely out-maneuvered the diabolical, and they are diabolical, agenda of the Obama Administration not only in Syria but also in the entire Middle East and now in the EU with unleashing the flood of refugees. He openly reached out to invite Obama in their New York September 30 meeting to cooperate together in defeating ISIS. Obama stubbornly insisted that first Assad must go, despite the fact that Christine Wormuth, the Pentagon Undersecretary responsible for the Syrian war, confirmed Russian statements about Assad’s essential role today in any defeat of ISIS. She told the US Senate that Assad’s military “still has considerable strength,” adding, “it’s still the most powerful military force on the ground. The assessment right now is the regime is not in imminent danger of falling.”
Now come the howls of protest from neo-con warhawks, like the ever-ready-for-war Senator John McCain, chairman of the NGO International Republican Institute of the democratic revolution exporting US-backed NGO, National Endowment for Democracy. Or we hear flaccid protests from President Obama. This is because Washington finds itself deeply exposed to the light of world scrutiny for backing terrorists in Syria against a duly-elected state leader and government. The US warhawks accuse Russia of hitting “the moderate opposition” or civilians.
Emperor’s New Clothes . . .
Russia’s Putin is playing the role ever so elegantly, even gracefully, of the small boy in the Hans Christian Anderson classic fairy tale from 1837, The Emperor’s New Clothes. The boy stands with his mother amid thousands of other villagers in the crowd outside the vain Emperor’s palace balcony, where the disassociated king struts around the balcony naked, thinking he is wearing a magnificent new suit of clothes. The boy shouts, to the embarrassment of all servile citizens who pretend his clothes are magnificent, “Mother, look the Emperor has no clothes!”
What do I mean? In the first four days of precision bombing of select sites in Syria Russian advanced fighter jets firing Kh-29L air-to-surface laser-guided missiles that strike targets with a precision less than two meters, managed to destroy key ISIS command centers, munitions depots and vital infrastructure. According to the Russian Defense Ministry official reports, with photos, Su-34 bombers attacked an ISIS special training camp and munition depot near Al-Tabqa, Ar-Raqqah province,” a critical ISIS outpost captured in August, 2014 after bitter battles. “As a result of explosion of the munition depot, the terrorist training camp was completely destroyed,” the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman stated. Russian Su-25 jets have also attacked training camp of the Islamic State in the Syrian Idlib, destroying a workshop for explosive belt production.
Moscow states its air force has “engaged 3 munition, fuel and armament depots of the illegal armed groups. KAB-500 aviation bombs detonated the munition and armament,” and they used BETAB-500 concrete-piercing bombs to destroy four command posts of the ISIS armed groups. The facilities with terrorists are completely destroyed,” the Moscow spokesman added. Russia’s aviation conducted 20 flights and carried out 10 airstrikes against facilities of the Islamic State (ISIL) terrorist group in the past 24 hours. Then Moscow announced they had also hit key outposts of other terror groups such as the Al Qaeda-franchise, Al Nusra Front.
These are the so-called “moderates” that McCain and the Washington warhawks are weeping over. Washington has been creating what it calls the “New” Syrian Forces (NSF), which they claim is composed of “moderate” terrorists, euphemistically referred to as “rebels.” Imagine how recruitment talks go: CIA recruiter, “Mohammed, are you a moderate Islamist? Why yes, my dear CIA trainer. Please take me, train me and arm me in the fight against the ruthless dictator Assad and against ISIS. I’m on your side. You can trust me…”
In late September it was reported that Major Anas Obaid a.k.a. Abu Zayd, on completing his CIA training in Turkey, defected from the train-and-equip program to join Jabhat al-Nusra (Al Qaeda in Syria) immediately on entering Syria. Incredibly, US officials admit that Washington does not track or exercise command-and-control of its Jihadist proxies once they enter Syria. Abu Zayd’s defection after being trained in advanced warfare techniques by the US, is typical. Other elements of the New Syrian Forces directly handed all their weapons to Nusra upon entering Syrian territory at the town of Atareb at the end of September.
These latest “moderate” defections to join Al Qaeda’s Al-Nusra Front affiliate in Syria come less than two weeks after Gen. Lloyd Austin III, head of the US “war against ISIS,” during a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on Syria, admitted that the US military program that intended produce 5,400 trained fighters a year has so far only resulted in “four or five” who still remain on the ground and active in combat. The rest have all joined ISIS or Al Nusra Front of Al Qaeda, the US-backed “moderate opposition” to ISIL.
What the successful Russian precision airstrikes have done is expose in all its ugly nakedness the Emperor’s New Clothes. For more than one year, the Obama Administration claims it has committed the most awesome airpower on the planet allegedly to destroy ISIS, which has been described as a “ragtag band of militants running around the desert in basketball shoes.”
Curiously, until last week, ISIS has only expanded its web of power in Syria and Iraq under US bombings. Now, within 72 hours, the Russian military, launching only 60 bombing runs in 72 hours, hitting more than 50 ISIS targets, has brought the ISIS combatants into what the Russian Defense Ministry spokesman described as a state of “panic” where more than 600 have deserted. And, according to Moscow, the fight is only beginning, expected, they say to last three to four months.
The Obama Administration has been training terrorists of Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, allegedly to fight ISIS, much like the disgraced General David Petraeus did in Iraq and Afghanistan along with Obama’s special ISIS coordinator, the just-resigned General John Allen. The US-trained “moderate” terrorists were being readied, it’s now clear to all the world, in reality, to battle Assad and open the way for a Muslim Brotherhood takeover of Syria and a real plunge into darkness for the world if that were to succeed.
Now, with the truth in the open, exposed by the remarkable successes of a handful of Russian fighter jets in four days against ISIS, accomplishing more than the US “anti-ISIS coalition” in more than one year, it is clear to the world Washington has been playing a dirty double game.
Now that hypocritical Obama Administration mask has been blown off with the precision hit of a Russian laser-guided Kh-29L missile. As German and other EU governments have admitted, much to the strong objection of Washington, Putin has demonstrated that Russia is the essential part of any peaceful resolution of the Syria war. That in turn has a huge bearing on the current asylum-seeker crisis in Germany and other parts of the EU. It also has a huge bearing on prospects for world peace. The Norwegian Parliament’s Nobel Peace Prize Committee, rather than consider John Kerry, might consider Vladimir Putin and Russian Defense Minister, Sergey Shoygu, for the prize.
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Yes, the sun sets on the U.S. Empire, just as it did on Britain, Japan, Spain, Portugal, and Rome.
"Sold Out" is how, as a U.S. Citizen, I feel. Not to mention feeling like I've been ass-raped.
Fuck you Washington D.C. and Wall Street, fuck you to hell and back on a rail!
Thanks, 0bama!
Bye, Bye, Miss American Pie; drove my tankers to the well-pumps, but the well-pumps were dry..
And Good 'ol Putin poked a finger in our eye; that was the day when we died, that was the day that we died...
Might makes right.
Nuclear might makes world peace.
If Putin really does manage to actually clean this mess up and halt the flow of migrants into europe, he will be their hero. The politicans in the EU may act like they are blameless, and are too pussified to point the finger at the US, but a significant % of the populations of countries like germany know EXACTLY why this is happening and who is to blame to destabilizing the region. Obama has handed europe to putin on a silver platter, all Putin has to do is not fuck all this up. Given the patience he has displayed the last couple years, I doubt he will. I hate to say it, but he appears to be a truly smart motherfucker. The kind of person you don't want as an enemy.
I don't think the russians would beat the US in a military confrontation, but I do think that even if we won, it would be a pyrrhic victory, with the US too economically debilitated to continue on as a viable country. Hopefully cooler heads prevail.
You are right about Putin -a great man and great leader. Perhaps the greatest of the last century, and potentially of all time. We may not match russia militarily -but defending his own hemisphere, in his own backyard - I think Russia wins hands down in the short run, and with his coalition which will develop -Russia wins it all in time. The wild card is the neocrazies going nuclear. They believe they can win with a preemptive nuclear strike. These are very dangerous and very evil devils.
So it this a metaphor of what this Joel Skousen is saying? The Military Industrial Complex does NOT pledge an allegiance to the USA but to the country that will be the reserve currency? Like how they destroyed Britain to then prop up USA, So Central Bankers, Ratheon, Northrop Grumman, Boening, Lockheed Martin, Coke, Dupont, Highest ranking military personal etc... (the list goes on) all pledge their allegiance to profits... who ever has the strongest/biggest money printing press.
Sounds about right.
"The Norwegian Parliament’s Nobel Peace Prize Committee, rather than consider John Kerry, might consider Vladimir Putin and Russian Defense Minister, Sergey Shoygu, for the prize."
The Peace Prize award was severely tainted when it was given to Obama, for no reason whatsoever, who subsequently invaded and destroyed several nations.
So, giving it to Putin would almost be an insult.
The NPP was always tainted since Gandhi was considered 3 times and has yet to be posthumously awarded one.
Putin will soon be bogged down in Islam offal. He'll rue the day he made his stupid decision. Russia will soon be dead broke once again.
In post Soviet Russia, Sergei Shoigu awards YOU peace price... the "rest in peace" prize!
There are two things which you can not compete with, insanity, and free.
OBAMA IS DOING A GREAT "JOB"
Since Obama's job is to destroy America from within, and weaken and humiliate America on the world stage. It's all part of greasing the wheels to usher in the JEW WORLD ORDER.....
Why does everyone blame Obama? True, he is the worse President ever. But that is because he is the latest to be President. Before him, Shrub was the worst president ever. Comparing policies, Obama is Shrub+.
Tain't the man, it is the system. Presidents are far more figurehead, effect, than cause. Our system is very broken.
Keep dreaming, dude ! It will take A LOT of war for Russia to catch up with deadbeat America...
Pretty little bird, "21 weeks and 4 days", says it all. You'll go far on ZH, not. We've long ago become innured to shill propagandists. Save yourself the trouble and take a hike.
Pretty bird is an American living in Korea who drinks coke by the gallon daily and swears he is a christian. Go figure what a fucked up mess this loser is that he even lives. Don't ask about the alias's he has held on ZH.
Not worth a red cent in a pile of dung
Hmmm, who is dead broke? The USA with $20 trillion in debt or Russia with virually no debt and a ton of natural resources?
“ (the) Nobel Peace Prize Committee, rather than consider John Kerry, might consider Vladimir Putin and Russian Defense Minister, Sergey Shoygu, for the prize.”
To make a more dramatic statement, I think they should rescind the war criminal Obama’s Nobel and award it to Putin.
Then, award the new one jointly to Sergey Shoygu and Sergey Lavrov.
"To make a more dramatic statement, I think they should rescind the war criminal Obama’s Nobel and award it to Putin."
How about the IS ? They have been slittin throats, raping women and children, throwing gays off buildings etc etc but they are "our moderate" opposition to that devil Assad.
Notice how the Feminists and Lesbian Gay organizations etc haven't made any protests about the murderous actions of IS ?
Games are done. All are leaving the Bisonian sinking ship. Europe understood that Bisonia was pushing them into becoming radioactive oblivion .
The Euro-Asian Transunion already looks at the future as Bisonia falls back to Plan B - self canibalizing by turning itself into a fascist mega-concentration camp.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/612759/European-Russians-team-up-c...
and it's been 10 years since Halliburton moved HQ to Dubai
Putin and Russia are well aware of the neocrazies who are pulling the strings in the west and they know exactly where to locate them should their patsies be told to play the nuclear card so I'm sure they will get the message that they will all be the very first targets on the list for the Russian missiles, nuclear or otherwise. There will not be a bunker anywhere they can go to that will be deep enough to save them with a concentration of firepower one after the other. Getting rid of that scum would be doing us all a big favour.
consider this: the neoconservatives and the israelis are the ones who did 9-11. the former may feel they have little to lose as, should events spin out of control, they could face treason and murder charges in the u.s. the latter could lose their big brother protector. they might risk war.
among snowden, the kgb and whatever additional mideast resources iran, hezbollah and the associated shia could offer, what is the maximum russia could bring to bear on this front to finally tear the neo parasites from off the body of their host country and make said country realize what has actually been going on these last fourteen years?
now that would merit a noble prize. maybe two since obama has so devalued them.
"It didn't take long - a year or two - for the socialist writer Michael Harrington to come up with the term "neoconservative" to describe a renegade (JEWISH) liberal like myself. To the chagrin of some of my friends, I decided to accept that term; there was no point calling myself a liberal when no one else did"
Why would you repeat SOCIALIST PARTY name calling if you had actual points to make?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Harrington
WHY DO IDIOTS CALL SOCIALIST JEW LIBERALS CONSERVATIVES anyway??? I guess it is just ignorance.
Why not put on your big boy pants and say 'SOCIALIST JEW LIBERAL WARMONGER" instead of neocon.....unless you can tell me something conservative about them, or you like sounding ignorant......
I beg your pardon, TONGUESTUN. Your commentary appears a rather unique attempt at deflection. I don't recall that the commentor you are responding to ever mentioned the word "JEW" along side his reference to "NEOCONSERVATIVES'. You have quite deliberately injected it by equating LIBERAL = SOCIALIST LIBERAL JEW = NON CONSERVATIVE. Why did you do that?
Your equation sounds so pallid and innocuos and innocent, doesn't it. And while it might peripherally describe not atypical Jewish liberal political philosophies of the middle of the last century here in the US, it utterly fails to account for the evolution of Jewish common political activity in the last 50 years. And it inexplicably averts any reference to the role of ZIONISM in that evolution, and the role that American NEOCONSERVATIVES play in that evolution.
But more importantly it cleverly deflects, by silent association, the odd fact that many individuals of Jewish descent have played an overarching role in that evolution of the very dangerous and evil "neoconservative" thought processes, leading back to the 1940's and the rise of the political philosophy of Leo Strauss (liberal? Jew). Strauss posited that only "intellectual elites" merit the power of political leadership. O.K., good enough. But then follows on with guidance such as "the hidden truth is that expeciency works" and "there is the natural right of the stronger to prevail. For some reason I have a certain difficulty in how my forefathers, who died in droves to foster the creation of the idea of the United States of America, in the likes of Thomas Jefferson or John Adams, might have translated those Straussian phrases into their own concepts of 'natural rights' or political 'liberalism'. Somehow, it doesn't ring right!
Yet Strauss' political philosophy can be laid as the foundation for much of the maniacal NEOCONSERVATIVE insanity of the last 30-years and in which we are presently violently immersed in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Yemen, Libya, Ukraine, Syria, Turkmenistan, Sudan, Mali, Cameroon, and Nigeria (to name the most transparent loci), and the millions of dead and maimed, and mayhem and chaos that follows. And thanks to you, without my being called a racist, NEOCONSERVATISM can be traced back through an endless stream of Jewish thought processes from Strauss to William Kristol, Madilene Albright, Paul Wolfowitz, and right on up to the present-day Kagans and Nulands. In fact, due to their impact, it is almost as if Jewish political thought has become synonymous with Neoconservatives.
I submt TONGUESTUN it was a red-herring for you to inject the socialist Michael Harrington (though his belated condemnation of the Viet Nam war was welcome), as it was equally unnecessary for you to suggest that you were a Jew. Rather, it has the distinct flavor of being a very Bernaysian (another Jew) way of shilling propaganda.
Perhaps your 21 weeks here on ZH require a little more silent study.
The proper description of 'neocon' is "Progressive of the Right". Progressives of the Left use government power to manage the domestic economy and society with taxes and programs.
Progressives of the Right use government power to manage the international system with war and sanctions. Can't work.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/02/06/high-dimensioned-games/
Progressives of the right and the left find ways to gain as much resources from as many people/countries as they can and then they start stealing with both hands and never stop. They care not who dies or what gets destroyed.
You have your opinion, and i will rebut yours now. If you think Putin is so great, go move to Russia. If he is so great, why is Snowden for example in public maintaining his wish to return to the US even with jail time assured.
I am not saying the Americans are lily white in this, but Putin is no great leader. Check out the Netflix documentaries on the Orange Revolution and Maidan that have popped up to see how people like that feel about Russia and cronyism. He rules by fear and is a bully, maintaining what he does until he is forcibly stopped. Others in the former Iron Curtain do not want to return to oppression and will die to avert returning to Russian oppression. Please note I am not saying that the US is the shining beacon of freedom, we are not now and perhaps never were. But freedom still rules the day everywhere, whether the US is in lead or someone else.
Im sorry, but if you are to judge Russia and the US on their actions, Russia is doing nothing more than saying 'enough' to all the evil that the US has caused in the Middle East and North Africa. Nothing more needs to go into the calculus of the situation.
Next hotspot will be Turkmenistan. The neocons are financing a Taliban/ISIS coalition based in Afghanistan to infiltrate and perpetrate a coup on Turkmenistan.
Ack - double post
You could have actually posted that twice. It was a good post easily worthy of a double.
as the post above notes, putin has acknowledged the evil of the ussr's attempt to control the "iron curtain" countries against their will. of course having been invaded from the west by napoleon, poland (at the end of ww1; it really happened) and hitler, it might be understandable why stalin thought a 'buffer' made sense.
imo, putin shows little interest in controlling territory contiguous to russia beyond those areas that are majority russian speakers.
the rest seems to be countering u.s. aggression to allow other countries some measure of independence (syria, iraq, iran). if they then feel some loyalty to russia, oh well . . . .
The grass is always greener on the other side of the hill (or anyplace other than lawn outside the window of one's parents' basement).
Putin is a (relatively) successful Nationalist, who stepped in at a critical and opportune moment in Russia's history. Barrack Obama is smooth talking jive turkey (when his teleprompter is working), and an imbecile in over his head without a viable long term strategy. Obama is the USSA's version of Boris Yeltsin, allowing the vultures free reign to plunder. Unfortunately, instead of allowing the collapse and commencing reconstruction, TPTB have dedicated everyone else's resources to perpetuating the USSA myth, which simply amplifies both the pending collapse and subsequent counteraction.
ZH is clearly in Russian hands.
The sheer quantity of positive spin contributions paired with the bedevilment of the US, makes this site on these occasions more entertaining than informative.
The article itself is ludricously shite. The only thing that amazes me is how people actually fall for this shit. France a vassal etc..., free countries resisting US policy get invaded. What the living fuck. Enough countries resisted the "willing alliance" of idiots that joined into the illegal Iraq invasion. Think of Germany and many other Europeans. Can't remember them losing major contracts in the US - or getting invaded.
But whatever, as long as there are uncritical idiots gobbling up this bullshit, this site will continue delivering this drivel. The only disappointing aspect is the high precentage of lemming posters.
But France IS a vassal state. Remember how they didn't deliver those ships to Russia? Then, when the political climate changed, they said that "they would like to build them more ships in the future?"
Russia didn't buy that, and turned its back on them, because fuck two faced vassal states.
If the French wanted to build ships for Russia, they would've done it without changing their minds. Since they changed their minds, obviously an outside force twisted their arms.
You know what word alliance means? I guess not. France is member of NATO - group of countries in military alliance. So if criminal putin regime is becoming a threat to NATO it means that none of this alliance members should give a hand to criminal putin regime.
But you are putin troll / idiot - so you don't know the difference from vassal state and ally.
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Latvian hiretroll know what word suzerainty means? Does not.
You are baked and blind. Latvia to NATO is a harbour and a parking lot and is significance nothing more. Is a rotting potato abandoned on a field.
Latvia member of NATO? Member. Protected by NATO? Is not. Latvia protected by lack of interest? Protected.
Russians do not want. "Syrian refugees" do not want. Latvians even do not want and emigrate urgently to clean toilets Poles and Romanians.
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Funny to good laughter. Latvian Mr. Potatohead does not know difference from ally and suzerainty.
Best for you explaining to ask Gauleiter Breedlove. :D
The MESSAGE is: "Six weeks and 1 day". It's pretty hilarious these days on ZH. You pop on a site and a month later you start naming the trolls. Damn, you're good!!! I've been here 6 1/2 fucking years, nearly every damn single day, and never seen so many trolls like this young whipper-snapper, the "message" man. What a joke. Clearly, Langley's getting raw nerves with daily articles like this one questioning the longevity of American hegemony. And William Engdahl is a pretty impressive historian. I can't help but laugh. It is an indication that the world is indeed turning.
The MESSAGE is: "Six weeks and 1 day". It's pretty hilarious these days on ZH. You pop on a site and a month later you start naming the trolls. Damn, you're good!!! I've been here 6 1/2 fucking years, nearly every damn single day, and never seen so many trolls like this young whipper-snapper, the "message" man. What a joke. Clearly, Langley's getting raw nerves with daily articles like this one questioning the longevity of American hegemony. And William Engdahl is a pretty impressive historian. I can't help but laugh. It is an indication that the world is indeed turning.
Schitzi nice trollin try, Germany does,nt have to be invaded , it already is and has been under occupation since 1945. Try keeping up with world history and current events if you are going to comment on here otherwise revert back to Huffpo or Yahoo or some such crap
Yes, ZH is criminal putin regime propaganda asset. This is how it works.
How I see things is I look at what government is doing – looking at its work, methods and results. And from there it’s basically two sides: those who work in good of common people and protect their individual rights & freedoms, and those who manipulate their people take their rights away and work for elite benefits. Now you look from that perspective and you are going around in so called “alternative media” as this (which actually is not alternative at all – but about that little later) than I’m sure you are aware about US oligarch regime crimes and that they are not working for the people. What you are lacking in information at some sites is about other elites / regimes / oligarchs and how they treat their people. So because of this lack of information you can be easily manipulated to think that there is only one evil elite that rules west and others can be looked at as opposition to this evil – so automatically they are the good guys VS evil west. Well it’s not so at all. If you go back to what I started and those criteria how I divide governments – than you will realize that for example Putin oligarch regime, China elite regime – is not working for their people and is not protecting their individual rights and freedoms. They use the same tactics, the same crimes, the same manipulation in order to gain their elite more power more wealth and hides it under different banners. I’ post links about Putin regime in the end – check them out.
This manipulation with your mind is possible using different kind of channels that you think is alternative media – when actually it’s Putin regime asset for brainwashing you. Also US oligarch regime has their alternative media to brainwash you. So it’s really hard to stay focus and not to get lost in this war over your mind. But those criteria I posted can help you.
What Putin regime assets as RT, Zerohedge (because obviously it is Putin regime asset as you will not be able to find any criticism towards from this site towards actions Putin regime do to their people by limiting their freedoms, by internet censorship and of course will stay in line with Putin regime lies that they are not invading Ukraine (when there is evidence about Putin regime tanks in Ukraine that are not in any country army but only in Russian) does is they are mixing truth with lies. You know – you have to add some sugar for bitter poison. They are well aware about US oligarch crimes and they are well aware that MSM is hiding them from people in west and they are well aware that people in west is seeking the truth that exposes these crimes – so what they do is this – they expose US oligarch regime crimes for what you are so interested in and in this way they are taking your attention and confidence to this source so that you trust them and thank them for bringing truth. And what they do then is they add their Putin regime lies that you automatically accept as truth because they were saying truth about US oligarch regime crimes (not always though). So this is the way they mix truth with lies in order to make you think from their perspective. If they add more paid trolls than mostly this scheme will work and people will live under Putin regime brainwashing machine. So now you know. Now it’s a choice for you to think this trough and start looking at information more with critical thinking. Yes, world is not so simple as we think.
Here are some links to look at and think of if you are cheering for Putin regime:
http://globalvoicesonline.org/2014/07/05/russia-internet-censorship-laws-crackdown/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russias-putin-signs-law-extending-kremlins-grip-over-media/2014/10/15/6d9e8b2c-546b-11e4-809b-8cc0a295c773_story.html
http://www.rferl.org/content/russia-ad-ban-hurts-television/25449900.html
http://www.hrw.org/news/2013/04/24/russia-worst-human-rights-climate-post-soviet-era
http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2014/04/12/russian-tv-caught-red-handed-same-guy-same-demonstration-but-three-different-people-spy-bystander-heroic-surgeon/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkaVIIOE9ys
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/6a2b93aac55c40c9a1b0b0bcc11a07d9/russia-gives-approval-sanctions-compensation
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/russias-rosneft-asks-48-billion-state-wealth-fund-sanctions-bite-1471332
Varieties of shit, to be honest.
Of course there is nothing. What you can try to talk when your head is full of shit mixed with wool?
PCR isnt Russian Dbag.
ignorants can't embrace the truth. No issues run back in your basement :)
Maybe you're a fucking retard and can't see and comprehend what's going on properly. AmeriKa is currently being rum by amateurs, and these amateurs are being outclassed by som experts.
What part of that is so hard for you exceptionalist imbeciles to understand?
Liebe Schatzi Nazi, Gehen sie ficken!
Netflix ???? Really ?? you get your info from Netflix ??? Someone gave me Netflix for free , its a complete waste of money , full of Hollywood crap CIA or ex-CIA or FBI or ex FBI super agent heroes fighting evil to spread freedom and democracy ,oh yeah and that permanent Auschwitz movie about the evil Germans and "gas Chambers" and"6 million". Its a joke and only watched by teenagers because the only good films on it are like 15 to 30 or more years old and they are the only people who hav,nt already seen them , playing catch up as it were.
The guy lives in grandmas basement and comes out once a year.
I've noticed about streaming Netflix almighty since USSA started messing in the Ukraine and pretending they aren't is that you cannot find ANY Russian films with a positive or sympathetic tone towards the Russian POV at all. But there are pro-oligarch and pro-Ukraine films. How curiously one-sided. And intentional? I think we know the answer to that one...Netflix streaming has really turned into shit in the last few years, with an almost basic cable-like quality.
You ever been to "Russia" ?
If not then perhaps a can of shut the fuck up is in order...
Kazan FTW ;-)
"They believe they can win with a preemptive nuclear strike."
Not with a Russian boomer off the coast of Syria, they don't.
They may be total asshats, but even they are not that stupid.
Clarity. Lots of clarity.
I upvoted your good comment. But I disagree with the part about Russia & US.
Isn't it clear by now that Russia does not stand alone? If the 'west' is damn insane enough to succeed in forcing an ultimate war, then it will be against Russia + China + most of the Middle East. Many US alliances are shaky at best, and most of its satellites are weak; nor is there any heart left in the 'west' for trying to 'win' anything. How much loyalty to their leaders do the populations of the 'west' really feel, as opposed to those in Russia or Syria? The whole world would recognise such a war as suicidal, much like a terrorist whose plot is foiled, commits suicide in their despair. (Extreme analogy b/c personally I think 'western' policy is suicidal, desperate, and shows no hope but more and more shows despair.)
So many 'westerners' still have this idea that "if a war comes, we could still 'win'"... this is a perspective best left in the 20th century. The rest of the world would defend themselves as best they could. The attacker, the US, would lose. There is NO 'winning' that type of war. The word is out of place.
AS far as our US War Criminal Governmennt, I have absolutely zero loyalty to our so-called "leaders". I consider them all psychopaths. And, from this fact, refuse to vote for any national office other than writing in "Scrooge McDuck" to let them know I made a consious choice.
Oddly, this time around, that may be counted as a vote for Trump.
I agree with most of what you say. I just don't think that this "war" if it is ever started, wouldn't happen without a false flag of some type. You saw what happened when they were trying to drum up support for a US attack on syria a while back. The public said hell no. Even with that staged youtube hemical weapons video, which most people still believe is legit(even though sources like the brit govt say it isn't) and people still weren't on board. It would have to be an attack, by russia or iran, on either US soil or against US soldiers over there somewhere. As much as most people are sick of all this, and distrust this admin, comvince a majority of them 'we are under attack again' and theyll go along with almost anything.
And as far as 'winning' goes, thats why I used the term 'Pyrrhic victory'. We would have destroyed most of their military(not necessarily IN Russia, but everything that have deployed) but we suffer a lot of losses, and the damgae this conflict causes to th US and world economy that even though we have have technically 'won' in a strictly military sense, the economic devastation caused by this war leaves us much worse off than before.
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I just know there are some out there who study... you know, turn off the history (not) channel; pick up a book. Those evil nineteenth century white men really knew how to write, turns out.
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2015/10/httpwwwcarlis...
https://archive.org/details/stonewalljackso01hendgoog
Publicus, stick with your own.
"The remaining danger is the crazed American neoconservatives".
I do not think so. You died when your corporations decided to shift their production to China. From 25 % of world GDP before the crisis the US went to now 16. someting % of global GDP in 2014, practically level with China. The decline in economic power has nothing to do with Putin, it was the US corporations who deleted the jobs in the US and 'gave' them to the Chinese, not the politicians in the White House, in the Kremlin or even the Forbidden City. If we take apple as an example, can they close all their factories in China and manufacture in the US?
I was grateful to the Americans when I was a youngster in West Berlin, but now I have learned a few things. American collusion with France's Mitterrand (mentioned by David Brooks on PBS) have caused my brother's death in Berlin and in 2009 my decades of gratitude were finished.
When Nixon was in China, he made a pact with Mao. The US would not interfere how China would be governed and for that Mao guaranted US hegemony in the rest of the world. Who did Mao think he was to give hegemony to Washington?
mao died in 1976. the current leaders are playing their cards as they see them.
the corporations and the u.s. government worked very much together to export the "good" jobs to china etc. by making the "free trade" agreements which let the corporations hire cheap labor and not have to worry about health, safety or environmental regulation.
ever look at the air in beijing? it is certainly visible.
I miss the smell of coal energizing the productive state. During off-work hours the olfactory reinforcing your purpose in life.
Work for your masters, NOW GO, languorous Bitchez!
http://futuristech.info/posts/wikileaks-has-released-the-full-trans-paci...
"You died when your corporations decided to shift their production to China."
"For to win one hundred victories in one hundred battles, is not the pinnacle of skill. To subdue the enemy without fighting is the pinnacle of skill." - Sun Tsu
Obama? It's goes back a helluva lot farther than him.---"what G.H.W. Bush in his September 11, 1991 address to Congress called a New World Order"
10 years to the day before the phony attack.
i noticed that.
a little like announcing the trillions of dollars lost at the pentagon, with no idea where, on september 10, 2001. the guy in charge? the pentagon's controller, rabbi dov zakheim. seriously: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dov_S._Zakheim
oh and that same rabbi helped run the israeli company that sold the mechanisms installed on at least some of the hijacked planes that let them be controlled from the ground no matter what the on plane controls did. the mechanisms were sold as a hijack prevent device (last u.s. highjacking was d.b. cooper in the '70's). wouldn't put it in a movie; no one would believe it.
http://www.rense.com/general75/latest.htm
http://www.rense.com/general74/911h.htm
http://rense.com/general62/murdre.htm
We are so lucky to have the world's greatest Peace Maker in Chief.
Once the US loses "pole position" in terms of "World Authority", just how long before the other "pole position" (Reserve Currency Status) goes?
Maybe playing a pissing contest with China (backed by Russia), just as Russia is demonstrating how very capable their TINY air presence is, in "fighting Terrorism", may not be the most sensible idea?
We sure live in VERY "Interesting Times" . . . . . .
One of the interesting things will be if the F-22 takes to the air anywhere near Syria.
A squadron supposedly was moved from Hawaii to Turkey recently. A $350 million per plane hangar queen. Not to be confused with the even more dire F-35 which the Navy version costs $337 million and the plane is essentially junk with defective and unfinished software.
Stealth is a scam. Pierre Sprey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om5jis0dtkY
Wiill the USAF even let the F-22 take to the air? The Russians will be able to see it easily. Stealth could be exposed as a fraud perpetrated on American taxpayers.
So what is the point? The point is The Pentagram/MIC spent trillions on the F-22 and F-35 to defend the skies but they would be easily outclasses by modern Russian fighters. The F-16 (Pierre Sprey works on the design) might have a better chance.
The Russians fielded very impressive missiles from the Caspian Sea as well. And the Russians and Putin exposed the lie of ISIS.
So the Unipower fails because the endless corruption of America shows that the USA no longer can keep up with the Russians in air power.
This is a lot like phony Star Wars which supposedly helped bankrupt the USSR. Putin learned from that and he know missiles, ECM/jamming technology and fighters could move Russia ahead of the USA.
The USA cannot keep up because The PEntagram procurement process for weapons is about stealing money.
As Pierre Sprey says here at 4:23 that the point of the F-35 is to spend money.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4doIA3T9ps
So when you have serious people in Russia designing and building weapons to protect Russia while The Pentagram designs weapons for General's retirement plans, jobs in Congressmen's districts and to spend money - the USA will fail.
Just like corruption that sunk Rome and the USSR. America is in the same terminal decline due to breathtaking corruption.
the F-35 is the definition of a money pit, money directly to the MIC. The 30 year old F-16 was undefeated against it in air to air combat. THe F-15, 16 and 18 are far superior fighters, yet they are being discontinued... we truly are fucked.
I love this country, but hate our government...
I don’t think that any plane we have wasted trillions on will want to be in VR or BVR or even AWNAKOR (anywhere near any kind of range) when this this thing hits the sky.
https://www.rt.com/news/262657-pakfa-better-us-5g/
"Your" government is captured. Has been since at least 1910. Long past time to take it back.
Get those fiats while they're still good! End the FED.
Whether "stealth" was a scam or not, the "threat" spurred some very innovative Russian developments in wideband radar systems, most of which are fully mobile (e.g the Nebo-M suite - http://in.rbth.com/economics/2015/03/06/nebo-m_radar_which_can_see_hypersonic_targets_41835). The "threat" also seems to have encouraged the launch of many Russian Weather Satellites, all with high resolution (and high thermal discrimination) IR imaging.
Stealth may be great, but gas turbines are heat engines, and the exhaust gases MUST be hotter than the surroundings. "Modern" weather satellite IR sensing is good for better than 0.5C, and moisture-resistant, wide pass band IR optics have been available since I was an Undergrad in the early 1970's, so, "putting the pieces together", who is to say that these ostensibly "peacetime use" Weather satellites might have an added functionality in times of conflict . . .
As a starting point, consider that the gas plume leaving a high-bypass turbofan will be above 300C. That will certainly be detectable to even a "real" weather satellite, and will CERTAINLY be detectable to an, ahem, "Enhanced Performance" Russian model . . .;-)
https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-temperature-of-jet-engine-exhaust
For those with an interest in just what radars the Russians have been developing - this (Aussie) review is pretty comprehensive! Enjoy!
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Rus-Low-Band-Radars.html#mozTocId416732
"May you live in interesting times."
Chinese Curse
Ebbie launches the truthism rocket^
Financial cannon fodder, can test a man/womens patience.
The "tenured.gov costs", can only get passed on until UPM runs out. Chicago style<
When Roberts calls Obama's neo-Nazi accomplices "filth" and "insane," PCR is looking for trouble. Obama must have a secret "kill list" and you don't want to get on it. Unlike Albert Anastasia, the Lord High Executioner of the Mafia who used Murder Inc. (controlled by Louis "Lepke" Buchalter) to carry out contract killings, Obama has direct control of the killers he uses to carry out "hits." Including the Mossad agents who screwed up the assassination of Spencer Stone in Sacramento, who two months ago foiled Obama's false flag attack on the French train. Stone was stabbed in the heart, in the liver and in the left lung, normally enough to kill you. A professional killer, who may now be a liability. If only Roberts were a fly in the Oval Office when Obama found out that Stone was still alive. The Commander in Chief ordering the murder of active duty soldier -- incredible.
On the same team?
http://redefininggod.com/?s=paul+craig+roberts
God damn it.
I find someone that I read, who I believe has insight, and some fuckin' random Zero Hedge commenter totally changes my perspective.
I hate this place!!
Kudos, I was falling for it.
How's those "dik weed"stoks doing?
You're a scared investor, that doesn't know how to cash out.
You are a fool! ( feel my hands)
1. I'm not an investor since 2008.
2. I'm hostage to my 401-k. I can't cash out my measly $53k nomatter what I do.
3. All 401k investment stopped at the announcement of TARP.
4. I feel your hands, and DON'T TOUCH ME THERE!!!
5. I continue to have no investments (I once made $350k on Corning and Edigital within a few hours back in 1999/2000, forget the exact date.)
6. Everything I have is in gold/silver (and home improvement)..think $30k in September 2015.
7. Home loan is paid to April 2016, all other payments are at least a year in advance.
8. Car payment is tripled to pay it off in March 2016. Payment then to refinance to pay it off in ten years or less.
9. Wife adjusting to arsenal.
10. Wife accepting silver/gold coin....suggesting we start buying for grandson's birth year forward. One for first birthday, two for second, etc.
11. A random can of nuts to my left has $40k in cash in it.
12. A cabinet behind me has, well, let's say that its got a bit of gold and silver numismatics going back from now to 1860, plus a few postal stamps issued during that same time period (even have a block of S&H blue stamps), a considerable pile of silver eagles, morgans and mercury dimes. I have a Godless $100 bill, twenty steel nickles, three 70 proof eagles (one of which is certified from the WTC attack..dubious, admittedly, but still 70 proof).
13. And to both sides of me are enough food for two years. (Though I really need to work on our water reserves, a lot! Thankfully, I now have the room to store 4k gallons, just need to get on filling it up.)
14. I don't know what a dickweed stock is. I haven't researched a stock since 2004. I gave up on making sense of anything in the market since I researched Global Crossing in 2000. I gave up putting money into Wall Street right around then.
15. Most of my silver stack was bought in 1998-2001, average price was around $6. Did have to sell some (a fucking lot) when my wife got sick at the bottom of the market two years ago (but I was still way ahead of my cost).
TMI dork. Next up Manipufuktion den da Queeffed Microbiologist (sniffed. boo hoo). .
A lot of people like OP, go back to the HuffPo asswipe.
Good advice for everyone :
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/02/07/your-mind-is-not-you/
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/03/06/your-mind-is-not-your-own-2/
I agree ebworthen. Fuck WASH D.C. and Wall Street
...as the real parasite moves now to Beijing. Eb, can I call you brother? Brother, change is upon us- the parasite is easy for all to see, because it's most vulnerable when it's on the move. It has sucked the life out of the empires you mentioned, so now it thinks it can return to the home of Ming and start over?
I'd laugh, but it hurts. The Chinese have short stature and loooong memory.
Then there's this-
The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the people versus the banks.
Anybody can do the translation of the text about McCain from Russian into English?
http://www.kdggold.com/ru/content/McCains-put-Russia-and-China-are-faced...
Soviet Russia wanted a unipoloar world; so did Hitler, to a large degree.
A unipolar world, 1 "superpower" by its nature, dominates.
This is the OPPOSITE of the multi-polar world, where sovereign nations exist by the consent of their citizens, practice their own social principles and are FREE to trade or not trade with other nations.
I submit all men have a better chance for freedom of thought, beliefs, and business under the model proposed by the Russian Federation.
Putin's speech at the UN was a masterpiece of common sense w/o personally attacking any specific outfit (all though we know who he was referring to).
We must each personally act upon these principles: the ballot box is rigged, and we do not want to go to the cartridge box unless All Else Fails!
Save some ammo Putin... we will need to defeat the NEOCONS!! Let's march on DC and root them out.
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Ladies and gentlemen, one more issue that shall affect the future of the entire humankind is climate change. It is in our interest to ensure that the coming UN Climate Change Conference that will take place in Paris in December this year should deliver some feasible results. As part of our national contribution, we plan to limit greenhouse gas emissions to 70–75 percent of the 1990 levels by the year 2030.
However, I suggest that we take a broader look at the issue. Admittedly, we may be able to defuse it for a while by introducing emission quotas and using other tactical measures, but we certainly will not solve it for good that way. What we need is an essentially different approach, one that would involve introducing new, groundbreaking, nature-like technologies that would not damage the environment, but rather work in harmony with it, enabling us to restore the balance between the biosphere and technology upset by human activities.
It is indeed a challenge of global proportions. And I am confident that humanity does have the necessary intellectual capacity to respond to it. We need to join our efforts, primarily engaging countries that possess strong research and development capabilities, and have made significant advances in fundamental research. We propose convening a special forum under the auspices of the UN to comprehensively address issues related to the depletion of natural resources, habitat destruction, and climate change. Russia is willing to co-sponsor such a forum.
The Rus are the perfect ones to tackle a hoax.
The climate is going to change as it has for eons with or without a bunch of bullshit regulations designed to move more money up the pyrimid. Let's stop this stupid fraud right in it's tracks and start opening our eyes to reasons cap and trade was concocted in the first place. Then hang those theives.
Not to mention Goldman Sucks owns 1/3 of the carbon trading exchange being heaped upon us. Its just a fucking ball and chain we are being fooled into shackling to our ankles to become even more slaves of the f@#kers. Remember what Rabi Ovadia Yosef said about the goy. They were meant to serve the Jews as slaves.
Hey Mean Business, here's a quick and effective method to immediately reduce your own carbon imprint:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignitas_%28assisted_dying_organisation%29
Let me know how it works out for you, LOL>
Climate Change: The Facts - Dr John Abbot.
Should be required reading before anyone talks about climate change. 22 Essays that attack the claims of the AGW BS using silly little things like science and data.
http://www.amazon.com/Climate-Change-Dr-John-Abbot-ebook/product-reviews...
"you are an emotionally based lifeform" "a clueless female eco-nut" "Assigned to the permanent troll bin"Anthony Watts, blog owner of WUWT
http://blog.hotwhopper.com/2015/02/science-deniers-try-to-change-facts.h...
Gosh if only Copernicus, Newton and Einstein had listened to the 95% of journalists who knew that the science was settled, we could all breathe easier. How about you go read the book and come back and dispute the actual science instead of lame pejoratives.
Climate change: The Facts. Dr John Abbot. $9.95
IPCC AR5. 30,000+ published science articles. $0
Gosh if only there was a more studied body of science... meteorological data collection is rooted in the 1850's.
See International Meteorological Organization
Imagine what Galileo could have done with a singing greeting card.
Paying $0 for anything from the IPCC is still a rip off because it's comprised of falsehoods layered upon falsehoods. The IPCC is a political organization, not a scientific body, whose members falsely claim nobel prizes. The NIPCC, which is an organiztion actually run by scientists has lots of free stuff and it's even based on data (gasp) rather than goal driven causes. Their postings are housed at http://www.co2science.org/
Then why didn't you point me to the NIPCC first?
Got news for you, The World Meteorological Organization is run by Dr. Michael Jarruad, a scientist. Now by all means, tell how the NIPCC isn't at all political nor goal driven.
mijev, our kid's future is at stake. I'm not leaving it in the laps of your fringe theories. Time will tell, maybe the alpha magnetic spectrometer will blow the AGW theory off the map but meanwhile, President Putin is as up-to-date and pro-active, and FINALLY as vocal as the situation demands. Tough times demand tough talk. Tough times demand tough hearts.
I don't have anything against Putin per se but he's a politician and he loves money as much as the next oligarch. I never trust a politician's motives. The AGW movement is pushing poverty stricken countries further into despair and it's not unreasonable to assume that western governments are quite happy to see those countries stay that way instead of being allowed to compete with developed States. Below CO2 182ppm plants life ceases to exist so there is no way even dumbass politicians are going to let that happen. The earth is CO2 starved right now and there is no indication that a ten times increase would have anything but beneficial impacts even if temperatures rise by 5 degrees. No one ever escapes to a colder climate and plants (and humans) love extra CO2.
"I don't have anything against Putin per se but"... I have something against Putin. Yeah, logic 101.
"no indication". Yeah, none. 101% absolute none.
If you have any data that shows increased CO2 causes any harm to the planet then post it and the source. All historical data from the jurassic period indicates that CO2 was many orders of magnitude higher than today and plant life thrived.
Btw I went and checked out the World Meteorological Organization and what they are touting is not science.
The planet, over billions of years, doesn't give a rat's ass about CO2. There were how many *advanced* or otherwise human civilizations on this earth during the Jurrasic period? Zero.
see Canfield Oceans
So what then in your opinion is the WMO, co-sponsor of the IPCC, "touting"?
When people suffer from respitory problems they are given a gas which has 5,000ppm CO2 (5% plus 95% O2). Apnea and hyperventilation, which causes altitude sickness, both result from a decrease in CO2 in the human lungs. Why do you think that eithiopeans consistently win marathon and other long distance running events? They evolved and live in a higher CO2 environment. Plants are optimized to exist at 1500ppm CO2, measurable in controlled environments like greenhouses, and over the last 350 million years the earth's atmosphere has varied between its current low levels and 2500ppm. It is possible that the onset of respitory problems in the last 50 years is also a result of us being CO2 starved. Could also be pollution of course but CO2 is definitely not a pollutant. "The National Institute of Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH) threshold for an 8-hour occupation is 5,000 ppm" - 3000ppm is typical of the average office or home environment. No one really knows what the optimum Co2 level is for humans but it is probably similar to the plants we eat and they do best at 1500ppm.
meanwhile Reality...
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If you sufffer from respiratory problems and have sleep apnea then be sure to increase your intake of CO2. You can ask your doctor.
The Toronto Conference
The World Conference on the Changing Atmosphere: Implications for Global Security (the Toronto Conference) was held in Toronto, Canada on 27-30 June 1988 with the participation of more than 300 scientists and policy-makers. The Conference called upon governments, the United Nations and its specialized agencies, industry, educational institutions, non-governmental organizations and individuals “to take specific actions to reduce the impending crisis caused by the pollution of the atmosphere”.
The Toronto Conference Statement called, in particular, for increased resourcing for the research and monitoring efforts within the WCP, support for the work of the proposed IPCC and development of a comprehensive global convention as a framework for protocols on the protection of the atmosphere (Pearman et al., 1989; WMO, 1989).
http://www.wmo.int/pages/publications/bulletinarchive/archive/58_3_en/58...
Plant (et al) is great but RUSH rules ; )
Happy 40th frost-bitten Ontario boys! Enjoy your *retirement* 2015
first, a rise of C02 from 300 to 400 PPM (parts per million) is nothing, that amounts to adding one person to a group of ten thousand in a large venue and saying their body heat alone will warm the room. for that one C02 molecule to warm the others by 1 C, it would have to be hotter than he surface of the sun! C02 is plant food, more of it means more and bigger plants, which will help marginal farming areas become more productive. Greenhouses often add some C02 to get more plant growth. Their are other negative feedback routes that help to balance the very little rise that C02 might be responsible for. While I do agree that other pollutants need to be reined in as being much more damaging, the result of Cap and Trade will be 'pay to pollute' so more damage will be done.
This is true. There are different methods to introduce co2 into a greenhouse. Composting mushrooms is a good bet but you need to be mindful of methane gas from undercomposted material.
Don't want to waste to many letters here because I know how ZH crowd likes this topic.
I have quite a bit of knowledge in the enviromental area though. Can't gurantee climate change is going to be horrific, but I understand it is happening.
First thing first. Creating a better environment for our bodies means decreasing the pollution. Nobody can object to pollution from coal plants. Dust and soot usually fall within kms of the plants. During late 1952 London lost 12000 people as a result of the Great Smog and as much as 100k were affected. In China people practicaly live with masks on their heads every day in industrial citties. Most of this is related to SO2 and particulate matter. Than there are other much more problematic pollutants such as BTEX (Benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene and xylene) which come off oil producing facilities and low flares. These are all highly carcenogenic. All these compounds and many other are also created during combustion of fossil fuels and go into our atmosphere, our lungs, land or water.
Most of the exhaust is CO2 and H2O which are fairly harmless. However with our society throwing out ~30b t of CO2 in the air each year we at least have to understand what will the effects be. Since 1900 where CO2 levels were at ~300ppm atmosphere changed slightly to today where CO2 conc. is ~400ppm. These changes happen naturaly during hundreds of thousands of years and somehow they changed as much in the last 100 years.
You are off topic. We are possibly on the verge of WW3, have Fukushima destroying the Pacific and you are worried about carbon??
We are possibly on the verge of WW3 and you are worried about spammers?
If we avoid WW3 I am interested in the future of my world. In case of WW3, there will not be I to worry about anything.
President Putin is a spammer? The article is about his 28SEP15 speech so PCR is omitting a key topic in that speech. Why? Doubly odd because PCR has addressed related topics in the past.
Normally I do not waste my time arguing with the CO2 carbonnazi's.
I will, however, make the following point:
If you really cared about the environment, then you would be a devoted anti war activist.
Why? The USSA military is the number one producer of CO2 in the world.
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/3181:the-military-assault-on-global-c...
Consider also all the toxic chemicals released by explosions, plus contamination due to depleted uranium, and you may get the picture. Check out the following links to Iraqi birth defects. I dare you to watch the video's
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/3181:the-military-assault-on-global-c...
Bet you didn't see any of this in your global warming taxing points given to you by the Soros and crew.
Outlaw guru is spot on. Pollution is a horrific problem. Carbon credits and Cap and Trade will only make pollution worse by guaranteeing that pollution is never fixed because governments can just buy carbon credits instead of trying to clean their mess up. With $1B spent per day on avoiding fixing pollution the only guarantee is that Goldman Sachs and Rothschild will grow ever richer by selling CCs. The average person as usual gets fucked but think they're doing the right thing by the environment by supporting this bullshit. OG you should know better.
Fix pollution NOW! Well, there's Latina Lover's advice ^^^ if you're hell-bent. It's noteworthy that you figure it is "their" mess , not yours and mine.
It would cost $50B over two years to provide clean water to everyone in the world. You obviously think it's much better to spend $400B per year and not fix anything. What a proud environmentalist you must be.
$400B and not fix anything? Sounds like the fuckin IRS. per annum.
What do you think President Putin meant by "emissions quotas and other tactical measures"? hint: carbon tax, cap & trade.
and btw, clean water is considerably easier to tackle than grey water / sanitation. See Greenland Water Act
Been on Zero Hedge for over a year...
Did your forget the /sarc tag or are you fucking serious.
If serious, go fuck yourself.
Hey dork you forgot the question mark. dork.
hmmm, seems President Putin means business. syriasly.
tell us a miffy-esque tale why dontcha. dork. It's bin 'spell. LULZ
I appreciate that Putin means business, syriasly.
I expect our Whore Criminal Government will react unsyriasly.
And there will be hell to pay.
Thanks for the reply Oldfart. Go fuck yourself.
One-trick pony. Go away, troll.
Climate change? I am afraid only of climate change - nuclear winter.
The "climate" is always changing.
Unless you are referring to the proven operations of several entities attempting weather modification via chemical aerosol dispersion or high-power RF manipulation of the earth's magnetic field.
Obama never intended to kill the enemies he made. His intent has, always, been to destroy America, Americans and the dollar for his owners. By looking inept and weak he diminishes America in the world's eyes. That is the intent... To destroy American every way possible, while we do nothing.
NEVER believe anything America's government tells you.
What a load of crap - how's your tin foil hat ? It's NOT Obama you fool - EVERY US President has had to do the bidding of the Neocon A/Holes. Bottom line is that the stupid , fat, lazy , Zomby like 70% of your USA citizens can't even think for themselves & continue to take part in Voting for these cretins. Your congress men are thieves & villians but keep getting voted in. Glad I'm not a US citizen - fuck that !
Sadly you are for the most part correct -but 70% of US citizens being mindless zombies? You'r way off here -it's easily over 90%. And I know what I am talking about -and i am quite serious. Most of my family are mindless idiots -a few of them are on the right track and open to the truth.
My sense is that most of the west are mindless sheeple zombies -but not nearly at the level that exist in the US. I am convinced we are the dumbest on the Planet - in large part because the Zio Luciferian controlled media has focused far more on controlling us -with great success.
I found this on ZH about a year ago:
The American is marked, in fact, by precisely the habits of mind and act that one would look for in a man insatiably ambitious and yet incurably fearful, to wit, the habits, on the one hand, of unpleasant assertiveness, of somewhat boisterous braggardism, of incessant pushing, and, on the other hand, of conformity, caution and subservience. He is forever talking of his rights as if he stood ready to defend them with his last drop of blood, and forever yielding them up at the first demand. George Jean Nathan and H.L. Mencken, The American Credo, 1920
...and voting is a political pressure valve for sheeples - not a chance to get representation in government.
If you want to change your government stage a coup. Otherwise put up with it - just don't buy the line about voting making a difference, because it doesn't.
Want a real vote? Become one of the players that owns the politicians.
On a smaller scale, vote with you wallet, your hands, your feet and your mouth. What you say, do and spend money on has impact - ticking little boxes on paper doesn't.
When "average" Americans are interviewed on the street-usually for entertainment-the "culture of the moron" seems alive and well. It's an embarrassment on a global scale. Pick a subject, history, geography, the Constitution or whatever, when Americans answer, the rest of the world is laughing in slack-jawed amazement at these things that appear to be the same species as them. Homo Insapiens var. morono ?
you are so right - it's often even hard to believe anyone coudl be that dumb
Most of those interviews are selected for comedic value.
My NPR unterview was heavily redacted. I still sounded somewhat sensible, but they edited out a shit load of what I said.
Evidence? Motive?
Obama is merely the latest president of the broken USofA, meaning he is of course the worst president of all times. And the next President will be also, jsut like Shrub was in his time and Clinton before him.
Every President is more facade than the one before, more effect than cause. That won't change until we fix the broken system, put the government back inside the Constitution and some more tripwires and pushbacks from citizens.
Focus on the problems, not the people. The people are more or less irrelevant, it is a distraction to focus on them. Yes, McCain is unhinged. But there are many just like him, he is just the loudmouth of the year.
Believe me, we will never have a good president until that president is leading a good system.
Well, I do think the weather forecast from NOAA is OK.
But I also like the Weather Channel.
This is an excellent summary of what we have all witnessed over the past 20+ years !
Kudos to Paul Craig Roberts for continuing to speak out & expose the Neocons.
I prefer the term NeoCultists. They are a cult, a death cult.
Unipower> what a brilliant description of declining male DNA.
Meanwhile,
DOJ Creates New Position to Target “Anti-Government Views”
http://www.activistpost.com/2015/10/doj-creates-new-position-to-target-a...
Justice Dept to name coordinator for domestic terror cases
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/278459e3f5c042f193f5329a740a51b1/justice-...
This sounds just like the corrupt and evil dual shit-i-zens running Kiev. Porky, Yats, Nudelman and Soros. They crack down on the domestic citizens because they are evil and become hated more and more each day.
While their media - all TV and Hollywood - lie to make the masses of sheep think everything is okay.
D.C.!
Here is some more splooge in your eye!!!
great piece
They're insane. They believe their own lies as exceptional and/or chosen. They imagine God selected them to lead the US.
They flatter stupid sheeple, calling them exceptional or chosen. While the gods praise those whom they'll destroy, the neo-cons praise sheeple whom they destroy. Delusions never survive repeated contact with reality.
They are dual-national Zionists who control through media, finance, and bought politicians.
They are also probably meet the clinical definition of psychopaths.
Wow. The author has about gallon of Putin's jizz on his face.