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Mainstream Media Finally Admits Syrian Conflict Is US-Russia Proxy War
Submitted by Nick Bernabe via TheAntiMedia.org,
The Syrian civil war rages on, displacing as many as 11 million people and killing nearly 300,000 as the conflict reaches into its fifth year. Syria, a longtime ally of Russia, has been receiving material support from the Eastern giant since the 1940s. As Anti-Media reported last month,
“Russia’s support for Syria dates back to 1946, when Russia helped consolidate Syria’s independence. The two countries mutually came to a diplomatic and military agreement in the form of a non-aggression pact, which was enacted on April 20, 1950. In this pact, Russia promised support to the newly-created Syria by helping to develop its military and by providing tactical support. Essentially, Russia and Syria have been cooperating for decades both militarily and economically, with Russia maintaining a naval base on the Syrian Mediterranean.”
Meanwhile, the United States also has its own designs on the region. In 2013, President Obama, along with John Kerry, attempted to stir up enough public support for a direct regime change in Syria, tugging at the American public’s freedom-spreading, democracy-loving heart strings. This attempt at a public overthrow of the Syrian government failed, with Americans responding with the massive #NoWarWithSyria protest movement. However, the drive for regime change didn’t end just because the government stopped talking about it. The CIA continued to arm basically any group willing to fight against the Assad government. The Pentagon also tried (but failed), to manufacture an American-allied army out of so-called moderate Syrian rebels at the cost of $500 million — who, on paper would oppose ISIS, but in reality work to oust Assad.
Russia, who has been a Syrian ally for decades, has remained steadfast in its support of the Assad regime — openly supplying weapons, aircraft, tanks, intelligence, and human resources in the form of military advisers. Russia also operates a naval base on Syria’s Mediterranean shores.
By any measure, this is a textbook proxy war between military powers vying to maintain their own economic interests in the Middle East. However, five years later, it seems the corporate media is finally “realizing” this shadow war for what it is. Over the weekend, The Washington Post ran an article titled, “Did U.S. weapons supplied to Syrian rebels draw Russia into the conflict?” The article goes on to state:
“American antitank missiles supplied to Syrian rebels are playing an unexpectedly prominent role in shaping the Syrian battlefield, giving the conflict the semblance of a proxy war between the United States and Russia, despite President Obama’s express desire to avoid one.”
Then, on Monday, The New York Times published a piece titled “U.S. Weaponry Is Turning Syria Into a Proxy War With Russia.” The article admits that Syrian rebels are receiving abundant amounts of arms from the CIA, which are being used to fight the Russian-backed advance of Assad’s troops as he tries to take back Syria from the various rebel, Islamist, and terror groups that have overtaken much of countryside.
Understanding that the U.S. public has been war-weary since the Iraq War debacle, Obama was forced to change his rhetoric from regime change in Syria to fighting terrorism in the form of ISIS. The ample fear-mongering provided by ISIS brutes gave Obama the public support he needed to renew America’s seemingly permanent war in Iraq while giving him a back-door into Syria. The U.S. is currently bombing both countries, joined by a coalition of 62 partners, with Russia now officially throwing its hat into the bombing bonanza ring.
What should be clear is that the Unites States’ priority in the region is not to defeat ISIS, but instead to overthrow Assad. Clever rhetoric disguises America’s covert intentions, but the actions — and subsequent paper trail — paint a very clear picture of what is truly happening in Syria. WikiLeaks gives us some insight into the West’s designs on Syria, providing a window into the longtime campaign to oust Syrian president, Bashar al-Assad. A new book that analyzes diplomatic cables leaked by Chelsea Manning, The WikiLeaks Files: The World According to U.S. Empire, reveals the U.S. had a longstanding regime change policy in Syria that dates back long before the 2011 Arab Spring uprising that rocked the Middle East.
“A December 13, 2006 cable, ‘Influencing the SARG [Syrian government] in the End of 2006,’ indicates that, as far back as 2006 – five years before Arab Spring protests in Syria – destabilizing the Syrian government was a central motivation of U.S. policy. The author of the cable was William Roebuck, at the time chargé d’affaires at the U.S. embassy in Damascus. The cable outlines strategies for destabilizing the Syrian government. In his summary of the cable, Roebuck wrote:
‘We believe Bashar’s weaknesses are in how he chooses to react to looming issues, both perceived and real, such as the conflict between economic reform steps (however limited) and entrenched, corrupt forces, the Kurdish question, and the potential threat to the regime from the increasing presence of transiting Islamist extremists. This cable summarizes our assessment of these vulnerabilities and suggests that there may be actions, statements, and signals that the USG can send that will improve the likelihood of such opportunities arising.’”
These cables reflect an even older plan, which was detailed by Dan Sanchez at AntiWar.com:
“A veritable ‘carpe chaos’ manifesto was written in 1996 for a Washington think tank by David Wurmser, an Israel-first neocon (but I repeat myself) who would later play a key role in the Bush administration’s drive to the Iraq War: advising Dick Cheney in the Vice President’s Office, assisting John Bolton at the State Department, and fabricating fanciful ‘connections’ between Iraq and Al Qaeda at the Department of Defense.
In ‘Coping with Crumbling States: A Western and Israeli Balance of Power Strategy for the Levant,’ Wurmser made a case for ‘limiting and expediting the chaotic collapse’ of the Baathist governments in Iraq and Syria.”
Declassified documents from the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) suggest that ISIS is simply a convenient — and dare we say welcome — side effect of the West’s destabilization agenda in Syria and Iraq.
Sanchez continued to describe this plan:
“Then, after the 2011 ‘Arab Spring’ of popular uprisings reached Syria, ‘The Redirection’ went into overdrive. The US-led regional coalition (Turkey, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc.) has been strenuously trying to overthrow the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad since at least 2012 by heavily sponsoring an insurgency led by jihadists including Al Qaeda and ISIS.”
The Wurmser plan seems to be materializing before our eyes in Syria.
What is hidden beneath all of this information is why the United States wants Assad ousted from power so badly. The most obvious excuse was his open abuse of human rights. And while this was the exact story-line given to the U.S. public from our “friends” in the media, the rhetoric comes off as empty at best, considering the U.S. actively supported Saudi Arabia’s brutal crackdown of Arab Spring protesters. We learned during the Arab Spring that our Gulf State allies were allowed to kill as many pro-democracy protesters as they wanted (hell, we even supplied them with the weapons to do it), while any non-allies were not. Muammar Gaddafi learned this the hard way. Meanwhile, Ali Mohammed al-Nimr, a Saudi national, is awaiting execution by crucifixion for the crime of protesting the Saudi government during the Arab Spring. But crucifying a guy for protesting is fine with the United States because Saudi Arabia is one of our closest allies in the region. Repression is alright as long as it’s our guys doing it, right?
With the mythical human rights argument out of the way, the following question emerges: What is the true agenda causing the U.S.-Russia proxy war in Syria? In short, it is resources, power, and hegemony.
While nearly every war the U.S. involves itself in is sold as a humanitarian effort to either stop terrorism or spread democracy, studies show that countries with resources such as fossil fuels are over 100 times more likely to see foreign involvement in their internal conflicts. America is often the foreign force that arms and finances different sides of these conflicts. Coincidentally, in Syria, so is Russia.
While this geopolitical scenario is rather complex, it makes perfect sense. The U.S. has been trying to contain Russia since World War II, and those policies of containment are still in effect today. America enjoys its role as the only remaining superpower and has an interest in maintaining that hegemony. To make things perfectly clear, this is the main driver behind the Syrian Civil War.
Russia has somewhat of a monopoly over the gas supplies needed for Europe’s economy to operate. This gives Russia a semi-permanent economic base to fund its foreign policy agenda and maintain its own geopolitical strategy. The U.S. and its NATO allies want to end that monopoly, but in order to accomplish that, a pipeline must be built from the Sunni Gulf states, starting in Qatar, going through Jordan and Syria, and making its way into Turkey. From Turkey, the gas supplies will be distributed into Europe, effectively undermining Russia’s current arrangement with the European Union and placing its economy in a state of uncertainty. This would eventually lead to a flight of investment away from Russia and subsequently permanently damage what’s left of Russia’s resource-dependent economy. This explains Russia’s steadfast support for the Assad government. As The Guardian documented back in 2013:
“Assad refused to sign a proposed agreement with Qatar and Turkey that run a pipeline from the latter’s North field, contiguous with Iran’s South Pars field, through Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria and on to Turkey, with a view to supply European markets – albeit crucially bypassing Russia. Assad’s rationale was ‘to protect the interests of [his] Russian ally, which is Europe’s top supplier of natural gas.’”

Note the purple line which traces the proposed Qatar-Turkey natural gas pipeline and note that all of the countries highlighted in red are part of a new coalition hastily put together after Turkey finally (in exchange for NATO’s acquiescence on Erdogan’s politically-motivated war with the PKK) agreed to allow the US to fly combat missions against ISIS targets from Incirlik. Now note which country along the purple line is not highlighted in red. That’s because Bashar al-Assad didn’t support the pipeline and now we’re seeing what happens when you’re a Mid-East strongman and you decide not to support something the US and Saudi Arabia want to get done. (Map: ZeroHedge.com)
Mnar Muhawesh of Mint Press News describes these pipeline plays in her article, “Migrant Crisis & Syria War Fueled By Competing Gas Pipelines”:
“Knowing Syria was a critical piece in its energy strategy, Turkey attempted to persuade Syrian President Bashar Assad to reform this Iranian pipeline and to work with the proposed Qatar-Turkey pipeline, which would ultimately satisfy Turkey and the Gulf Arab nations’ quest for dominance over gas supplies, who are the United State’s allies. But after Assad refused Turkey’s proposal, Turkey and its allies became the major architects of Syria’s civil war.”
It’s unfortunate that it took the corporate media all these years to “discover” that the United States and Russia are fighting a geopolitical proxy war in Syria. It remains to be seen how many more years and lost lives it will take for them to also “discover” that this proxy war is being fought over resources and power. It’s a sad state of affairs when the Western media provides humanitarian cover for the U.S. and NATO to fuel a brutal civil war - which has taken the lives of nearly 300,000 people - simply to create economic advantages for NATO states and allies while undermining stability in the Middle East - creating the greatest humanitarian catastrophe since World War II. And as millions of refugees continue to pour out of Syria into Europe and abroad, the NATO-dominated public of the E.U. and U.S. remain largely ignorant to the fact their own governments helped create the refugee crisis they so abhor.
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The Nobel Prize Winner's war in Syria has caused 300,000 deaths and created more than 4 million refugees and at least 7 million displaced internally. Hardly any of the US or EU public is aware of that thanks to the free and fair media of the West
A recently released classified document obtained by WikiLeaks establishes that active US planning for regime-change predated the outbreak of the Syrian civil war by at least five years. The secret report from the head of the US Embassy in Damascus outlined “vulnerabilities” of the Syrian government that Washington could exploit. At the top of the list were fomenting “Sunni fears of Iranian influence” to cause sectarian conflict and taking advantage of “the presence of transiting Islamist extremists.”
Given that the document was written in 2006, at the height of Iraq’s sectarian carnage caused by the US invasion and Washington’s divide-and-rule tactics, these proposals were made with full awareness that they would provoke a bloodbath. Nearly a decade later, the bitter fruits of this policy include the deaths of some 300,000 Syrians, with another 4 million driven from the country and 7 million more internally displaced.
While cynically exploiting the suffering of the Syrian people to justify an escalation of US militarism, Washington is not about to let Russia derail its drive to impose its hegemony over the oil-rich Middle East and the entire planet.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/10/08/pers-o08.html
Like all wars, this one will end in tears for most.
How much money has the Clinton Foundation received from Middle Eastern donors?
How much in bribes do our "elected representatives" receive each election from defense contractors?
It is simple, but hard.
Sortition.
Stops the bribery.
Stops the wars.
ALL wars are BANKER wars.
Remember... Friends don't let friends believe in the fake East vs. West dialectic that is being spun by the MSM whores. The bankers are using it to forward their plans for their global NWO government and financial system.
"Proxy"; a delicate understatement destined for the annals of Political Correct nonsense.
No, it's not a real war... It's a proxy, an imitation, a vote by somebody else that I abrogated because I just can't make it, a phantom chimera, surreal nachtmare.
So delicately put.
Ask the dead, maimed, frightened, cold, hungry and damaged if thy think it makes it any more tolerable.
I know this is an old horse but apt;
"War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives. A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small 'inside' group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes."
Gen. S. Butler USMC
I'd actually like to be "NATO-dominated". Sounds kinky. It has been so long since NATO dominated jack squat though.
War is always about someone having a purple line and another person having a pink line, and those lines being at odds with each other.
Mainstream Media Finally Admits
Yeah....those guys are pretty sharp.
No one would be foolish enough to choose war over peace--in peace sons bury their fathers, but in war fathers bury their sons.
Nice command of written linguistics Knuks. ;-)
quizá nuestros visiters sur asimilarán?
Look on the bright side. All those millions of refugees won't be in Syria when the nuke fly. There is a silver lining to every cloud even if it is the glow of radioactive decay.
The USA is controlled by evil shitbags who promote wars for evil scum contractors lik ethe Crown-Krinsky crime family. Friends of Meyer Lansky, McCain, LBJ, OBama and the rest of the evil shit who get innocent people murdered.
http://www.abeldanger.net/2014/04/crown-crime-family-of-chicago.html
Scum like McCain and Lindsay Graham saying they support the troops and idiots eat those lies up.
Scum puppets like the White Hut and all of Congress.
Innocent people murdered during these endless bankster wars - Opium Wars in China 1839 with wonderful Britsh tribal banksters murdering Chinese, US Civil War 1861, endless European wars before that, WW1 banksters pushed royalty puppets owned by the Red Shield to war, WW2 with a US London Red Sheild Rockefeller Hitler and the Red Shild Bolsheviks, Korean War, LBJ's narco Vietnam and Crown-Krinsky's F-111 which was a criminal fraud LBJ was involved in, Bushes and Obola Clinton middle east wars and Clinton/UN narco pipeline in the Balkans.
Tens of millions of innocent people murdered not for democracy or the American way of life but looting countries, narco trillions, weapons and contractor contracts and endless shit.
Mass murder for a profit.
That's not positive at all you shitbag. Furthermore, if it comes to that all those INVADERS in Europe are going to get dealt with quickly.
"Bankers" eh? "Globalists" too? All Buddhists from Belize I take it? Amish from Japan? Mennonites from Mexico?
You goyim want to see your Jew King Jesus again right? Then keep sending your sons to fight for God's chosen people. It is divinely ordained.
Very dumb strategy, negative-sum games.
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/07/22/people-can-lose-zero-or-ne...
It is absolutely not possible to 'win' in any real, long-term sense. It is absolutely not possible to play the game with mere human minds :
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/02/06/high-dimensioned-games/
And we only think so because the Status Quo is so good at channeling our every thought, the frame of every think we see and hear, the foundations of our mental existance :
https://thinkpatriot.wordpress.com/2015/02/09/in-the-age-of-propaganda/
What's dumb is thinking that foreign policy can actually be reduced to something as simplistic as game theory, but at least author understands that the underlying formulas are non-lnear.
The people who have decided to cooperate with each other need to start using their cooperation to compete with the people who want to be in competition. Not with violence, but in a free market!
A proxy war, I might add, in which my home country of the USA is completely in the wrong.
Now let us all rise for the playing of our National Anthem.
The U.S. Press is complicit in the deaths of 300,000 human beings. A few hours of investigative reporting would've shed a clear light on this -unless the Press already knew and were just following "orders". (much more likely) Don't tell me that thousands of "reporters" in America go to bed at night with a clean conscience. And with the words "war crimes" and "crimes against humanity" dancing behind their closed eyelids. I pity them.
Don't waste your pity on the MSM, they have never - nor do they now, care.
Merkel, Hollonde and the rest of th EU Faggots and Choke on their new found friends from the Middle East. They like Socialism so let 'em Choke on it! Brilliant!
Merkel, Hollonde and the rest of th EU Faggots and Choke on their new found friends from the Middle East. They like Socialism so let 'em Choke on it! Brilliant!
Russian weaponry on ships transiting the Bosphorus.
https://twitter.com/YorukIsik
Give Erdogan the finger Russian heroes or fire a Kalibr missile at Erdogan's palace.
If the migrants were only from Syria, Europe could cope. These useless, uneducated, disease ridden bastards are coming from every corner of the globe! SEND THEM ALL BACK!!
Your leaders said, "there is no limit to the number of immigrants we can take."
So of course these 3rd world shitskins want everything you got white man. They could never live the kind of life you will provide for them. A nice European apartment, free public transit, education, clothing, high quality food, etc. You are going to have to find room for not millions but HUNDREDS of millions of illiterate (in all languages), diseased, violent, savage shitskin subhumans in the next 10 years. They want your house, they want your car, they want your white women's pussy and they want to take your LIFE and end it. That's why they are coming to Europe.
I'm an old man and I guess I am a little naive. I always thought the only reason the US was in the ME was to assure the flow of crude. But with the drop in crude prices, and the US fraking, why is the ME so important to the US today ?
Money. War can be extremely lucrative for those with the "right" connections.
I always thiught it was about the petrodollar not just the flow of oil.
It's really about Israel controlling Lebanon by eliminating the Syrian connection between Iran and Hezbollah. That's why neocon= Israeli firste David Wurmser thought up this strategy to displace, wound, and kill millions of the non Chosen.
Why is ME so important? Because it lies next to Russia and China, the two rising superpowers, which the USA wants to "contain" and subdue. It is not just Syria. The USA has been sending ISIS to China to incite their muslims and the same with Russia. In other words, the USA has embarked on the same path as once Hitler or Napoleon - the world domination. Russia and China are obstacles to that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KkNAQIuGZY
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century
He explained it in this article in plain terms. It's about denying Russia's oil and gas revenue from Europe to cripple them and remove them as an obstacle. Greater Israel, the ethnic cleansing of whites in Europe thru mass immigration, etc. are all just bonuses.
War is when your government tells you who the enemy is. Revolution is when the people finaly realize who the real enemy is.
I am afraid that it is well beyond time to "water the tree"
May God have mercy on us all when the worm finally turns.
It was only a proxy war created by the US/Zionist. Syria was prosperous and peaceful until the proxy war was unleashed upon them.
Syria did not invade or attack other countries, others were sent to Syria to kill.
There is no shared blame with Russia or Syria. All the blame falls upon those who sent their proxies to kill.
I think we have moved beyond a proxy war right now, or I missing something ?
We have armed Russian and American aircraft in the same airspace.
Shit happens , as they say.
'Bout time we send NumbNuts from the State Department to de-conflictionize the situation.
You realize, do you not, that he could have won the Vietnam War all by himself with just a handful of rice and a battery operated fan?
With that deadly wood splinter still in his thumb ?
What an American stallion he is.
The US has rejected a Russian proposal to cooperate over the rescue of pilots shot down in Syria. Oh well, tough shit for the US when the legimate government of Syria decides it has had enough of foreign powers invading its airspace
The neocons are still in shock over the Caspian sea missile launch,
Years of planning and moving eastward to threaten Russia wrecked by a ball from left field.
If they get their(manic) composure back, some idiot is going to fire on those Russian
planes.I can feel it in my water.They will do anything to avoid the day of reckoning that
move foreshadowed.I think that stench is fear.
Those Kalibr-NK LACMs fired from small Russian ships in the Caspian did shock them. They had to lie that 4 crashed to try to make the world think Russian missiles were not that good. It was stunning technology.
http://www.voltairenet.org/article189021.html
The USA is supposedly sending F-22's from Hawaii to Turkey. I wonder why they hide these hangar queens in Hawaii?
I would bet they do not take to the sky because the Russians will expose stealth as a total fraud that was perpetrated on US taxpayers.
Pierre Sprey - Stealth is a scam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om5jis0dtkY
Sprey worked with Colonel Boyd and Colonel Riccioni. The three worked on the F-15, F-16 and A-10.
F-22 cost $350 million.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAq6oMG7DoE
Sprey talking about designing the A-10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l73IyO1Qdqo
In the next real war all downed pilots will be killed by drones anyway. And before the war is over everyone will realize that manned aircraft are obsolete now anyway.
out of chaos comes order, same as it ever was.
not this time. This time it is much more serious. This time it is a clash of civilizations, which zionists cannot really control. The zionist empire is now already too weak and other civilizations are taking stand for themselves. You could say that this is a beginning of a global revolution against the colonial rule. People in the world are too tired of the rule of anglo-zionists. Remember that zionists could only rule, while they had their British Empire. First it was the real British Empire, now the British Empire is the USA. But it is still the same empire. If this empire falls down, after all these centuries, zionists will loose their foothold. Or, in the worst case, we may all die in the process. In any case zionists are now playing a loosing war. All empires come to an end. This empire lasted some centuries, but like the Roman Empire, it is now collapsing, because it has become too chaotic, corrupt and complicated. Remember that this empire never really cntrolled the entire world (which is impossible!). There were always true (non-zionist) opponents. One such opponent was historicaly the Russian Empire. That is why they had to kill the tzar and his family and plant communism there. However, Russia now has its tzar back:-)
Russia: "Representatives of all four parliamentary parties have prepared a bill that bans municipal and regional lawmakers from keeping assets in foreign banks or own securities issued by foreign companies, a popular business daily reports. The authors of the draft claim that if it is adopted it would complete on all levels the so called ‘Nationalization of Elites’ – a series of legislative steps that Vladimir Putin suggested in 2012 and that were implemented with the 2013 law that bans senior Russian officials from holding bank accounts abroad or owning foreign-issued shares and bonds. The restriction also extends to spouses and underage children."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMTsQIATbIU
One day it's going to dawn on the human race that war is as barbaric a means of resolving conflict as cannibalism is as a means of coping with diet deficiencies
The Chosen's choke hold on the media has been broken forever by the Internet; they are seen to be the driving force behind 9/11; they owned the airport security; they had 200 agents around the Arab patsies, they profited from insurance and trading scams on 9/11; they own the politicians who went along and drove terror into others to stay quiet; the IDF is seen shooting Palestinian children whereas still to this day, the Jewish owned MSM censors the violence and slants the news stories. Of couse the only reason why the Jews own the MSM is because other Jews own the banks that create our money out of thin air and loan it out at interest. They loan out something that they have no right to own, money (equivalent to physical labor or assets). The Jew York times won't even run any comment questioning the governments laughable story about 911; journalism in the US has reached the darketst moment in the last 100 years.
The China english daily has a clear warning that they wiil physically confront the US navy if they try to sail ships within 12 miles of their islands stating that they will react as JFK did to the Soviets over Cuba (the US ships threatened to board Soviet ships which then were ordered to turn around)
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-10/17/c_134722902.htm
My money is on the RED pipeline.
Y'all realize do you not, that GazProm just put RFP's out for the construction of NordStream2, from Russia to Germany bypassing guess who?
"The" Ukraine!
For some reason I'm getting a feeling that the US has no allies, anymore.
It maybe lonely at the top, but its nothing like as bad as it is at the bottom.
Karma will bite you in the ass worse than dogma.
we never had allies; we were are just a chess piece for the Chosen to put in play whenever they want
Yes but an important and powerful piece. One could say that the U.S. is the Queen. Now a nation of "queens" run by women, fags, and dykes. With a military full of the same.
Certainly good enough for the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon School of Geo-Strategery. If (ignoring time) the shortest distance between two points is a straight line, it is intersting that the point where Fallujah fell and Isis rose in late 2013 (nine months after a certain annoucnement from the Iraqi Oil Ministry) only lies on or intersects one of the colorful lines plotted on the map.
Correction, this is a war between Israel and Russia, funded by the US taxpayer.
There are absolutely no strategic interests of the US being served by this conflict.
Wolfowitz doctrine to prevent the emergence of another global power vying for regional hegemony. It's pretty clear.
Our Congrescritter's have abdicated their responsibilities by letting Obama and the Neo-Cons wage war without their approval. It is technically illegal by law, but, they have let the administration get away with this bullshit since 2014 when we bombed Lybia.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/obama-congress-and-war-po...
Our entire Gov. knew the truth and kept quiet. As did the "press"--making them all complicit in war crimes and crimes against humanity. Will ANY of them be held to account? Ask George Jr.
I think that day is coming, but I'm certain these scum will incinerate the world before
they get their just deserts.
Whatever happened to sterile headstamps?
Let the Bombs and Missiles continue to fly!...Send the US and their allies packing!
tails between their legs
The overly simplistic dueling pipeline pissing match meme is undercut by the same Guardian article.
As far as KSA is concerned the alleged raison d'etre is a mere pawn to be sacrificed...
In regards to the current iteration of the Gas-for-Eurocrats scam- Qatar has a 100-year plan (The Oil Ministry's 100-year plan, not the Islamists' 100-year plan) , and it doesn't rely on a pipeline to Europe, but successfully implementing that plan does depend on continued sanctions against further Iranian gas development.
new Urban Redneck
Thank you.
Gas pipe has nothig to do with the
reasons why Russia supports Syria and wants to restore peace in the region.
According to a report leaked through Russian and Lebanese sources and reported by the London Telegraph, Saudi intelligence chief Prince Bandar bin Sultan told Russian President Vladimir Putin the Arab kingdom has control over the Chechen jihadists, who have been unleashing terrorist bombings in Russia and have been threatening the Olympics scheduled to begin in Sochi, Russia, on Feb. 6.Putin reportedly responded, “We know that you have supported the Chechen terrorist groups for a decade. And that support, which you have frankly talked about just now, is completely incompatible with the common objectives of fighting global terrorism.”
http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/saudi-terror-to-threaten-olympics/
Russians never forget all those victims of the Saudies' terror, and never forgive terrorists. saudies are as good as gone now. Their gas and oil will help them to burn in hell.
For those who doesn't know:
The direction from Russia to Syria is shorter than from Moscow to Kiev.
I skimmed this one. It reads like a controlled opposition piece. Yes, it's about the resources, but in the form of a land grab, not necessity. The U.S needs to secure an easy source of oil? There's no oil in Norte Americano? Or south? We really need a barrel to be profitable over $100? The big picture is yes, about oil, gas, etc., to some degree, but much more, many times, about land aquisition.
Proxy wars make profitable banker's wars
shades of the Spanish civil war
"Western media provides humanitarian cover for the U.S. and NATO to fuel a brutal civil war"
So very true! I am sick to death of the fucking Humanitarian cover the media always throws over US war making. Libya was a prime example, they went in to bomb all hell out of Libya on a lie, a lie that the army was about to massacre thousands of people. That has no been shown totally false. Anyone remember Kovovo? Same shit. Bombing for fake humanitarian reasons.
This is all abot fake moral superiority. Sorry, but Obama, Bush and the others, they have NO Moral superiority.
Goddammitt, we know that. Now what?
No need to be sorry when your right jack.They all should be Nuremberged.
Is this from the same group that hates Columbus? This story makes about as much sense as that story did.
What we have is a bully aggressor that believes it is exceptional and doesn't have to bother with international law or even its own laws annihilating smaller defenseless regimes that don't suit their fancy. Russia has simply stood off to one side constantly harping on this international lawlessness until the bullies descended upon a ally nation of theirs. Even then they stayed out of it militarily until they were faced with two choices. 1) Abandon their Mediterranean base or 2) help their ally. Exact same reason they reunited Crimea. The Ukrainians weren't/aren't mature enough to know they were being hoodwinked by the West and Russia was not going to lose its Navel base because of a bunch of quarreling twits thinking the West was about to shower them with gifts and money.
Now this same bully is throwing a tantrum because it is being outwitted at every turn and wants to show it's still the big boy by trying to bully another nation it thinks might back down over a few rocks some call islands thus setting themselves up for another defeat.
This is what happens when banks own and spooks run a country. Yep,,, it's as simple as that... no complicated plots, no shrewd plans.
Just plain old stupid arrogance.
Your right to call the West a bully, though it is of course run by the Chosen. But bullies don't want to fight, only intimidate, because thieir morals are weak and they are held together by intimidation. If the Chosen get the West into a real war, you can be sure that a revolution will occur against them. Perhaps that is the plan and they might all end up on some island together loving each other forever. The Rabbis can argue that it's God's choice. Or they can all end up in fractious, dangerous Zionist Occupied Palestine. Once isolated there, the flow of weapons and sucor will dry up and then they will have to make friends with the natives.
Kruschev tried to bully the US back in 1962 but JFK and the nation was OK with going to war (perhaps now that wouldn't be the case in Russia put missles there, since the US has nukes on the border with Russia). Kruschev backed down because the USSR had a corrupt, rotten core. Then the Jews left the USSR, leaving only the nationalists and Russia recovered. Now the US has the Jews running it and has become corrupt and rotten to the core. This time, the US is backing down in Syria and will soon have to back down in the China sea
What about a pipeline not through Syria, but through Iraq by Mosul straight into Turkey? Can someone weigh in on this... don't just guess "mountains" as the explanation though.
somehow, all this must be related to the concerns
of london and berlin but i don't see them mentioned.
This article seems to equate Russia and US to some extent as both fighting for control for pipelines. However first of all US and allies could have pacified Iraq and build a pipeline directly to Turkey (just look at the map). That would even allow them to contol Iranian sales if there were any. However they chose to game of winner takes all and destabilized Syria, a Russian ally. I can't see this as anything less than a defense of national interests for Russia.
It's astonishing how shielded people are from actual facts. I was over in Oceania for 3 days, and when I returned , the whole news cycle was about the election of a new "Figure Puppet".
People, please travel, and explore other cultures, and ideas.
I'm told your parents instill CORE values by the age of 4-5 , then guide you to adulthood.
That's why kids are put in daycare/kindergarten by the time they are 18 months old now, to ensure parental influence can be negated and the child can be turned into a brainwashed little zombie by the schools and media.
proxy war's... WTF
they're nothing moar than an indoctrinated fetal`istic experimental surrogate abortion? an amalgamation of embryonic mutual psychosis where nuture racks-up a pyrrhic victory, only to have nature tear-it-down... as 'GOD's Proxy{?],... hense, is but a halve'd`truth of futility on our predestined extinction...
i am,... thy fatalist !
Want to know where Abby Martin went?
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/05/empire-files-inside-saudi-arabia...
Smart girl. Left RT. She knows where the truth is told. If only VT could recruit Lauren Lyster for the finance side ..
This is much more than just a mere proxy war between the U.S. and Russia. This is a provocation via NATO. A cold war dinosaur that has no more practical use since 1990. It should have been dissolved with the Warsaw Pact. Watch this guy from London squirm when presented evidence and facts ..
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/14/the-debate-with-mike-harris-turk...
I would put to the guy from London, what evidence do you have that Assad is a rogue govt. responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of Syrian citizens. There is no evidence. The guy from London is a Mossad tool ..
BTW, I have had personal conversions with Mike Harris ..
https://app.box.com/s/hfgvcqg7gqh7i27at6sv53ywu87lwarp
FSA -- Free Syrian Army
FSA -- Free Shit Army
We're paying for both.
this is a proxy warbetween israel and russia. the usa is just the fool in the middle with a fat walllet.
WTFU people -
1. Obama / Soros / Globalists want to establish a Muslim Caliphate in the Middle East.
2. To accomplish this, they need ISIS to occupy and control Syria.
3. Soros wants this to stick a thorn in Putin's eye. Putin is the only national leader to oppose the globalization and open borders paradigm of the Fabian Socialist left.
4. Obama and Valerie Jarrett (the real puppet master behind Obama), want the Caliphate because they believe in the 12th Imam and the Final Battle between good and evil.
Obama et al are out to DESTROY Western Civilization, and they are well on their way. The American people have had enough of Obama and the left, but for whatever reason, they are waiting for something, like Neo in The Matrix. Only, when that something comes, it may be too late.
Well on their way indeed. If this massive invasion of Muslims and Africans into Europe doesn't stop soon it's over. Unless extreme measures are taken to expel the invaders.
Not to disagree with the main points made here, but fuck Wesley Clark. You can't believe a word he says. The Clintons invented him (as a high ranking general) and he's a total puppet.
For one can we Pleezzze drop this "cvil war" nomenclature in describing the war in Syria. This is a war of the western rich hiring mercenaries, whipped up on religious myth to fanatical levels, and then paid to attack a secular regime and its people because they will not completely supplicate themselves to the interests of this rich band of western oligarchs and their self interests. As common folk do we really give a shit who supplies the gas and oil to Europe as long as the competion is done fairly and investing is conducted on a fair basis? Otherwise expect corporate conglomerates to eventuaally hire thugs to start violent wars between corporate rivals as an every day occurrence and then everyone can have a "civil war" just like this one between energy rivals.
Man, these wikileaks cables have proven to be absolutely damning- you have to hand it to Julian Assange and Bradley/Chelsea Manning- the cables provide the vast body of public documentaiton needed to fully expose the US/NATO cartel for what it is- a velvet-gloved fascist empire run by a cabal of fiat manipulators. It's great to see such good work being done by these independent media organizations.