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US Shocked To Find Russian Machine Gun With Iranian Ammo Attached To Abrams Tank

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Needless to say, what’s happening in Syria is a nightmare for those who have been forced by circumstance to bear witness to the intractable violence. The plight of the hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing the country is unfathomable and the situation facing those who remain is even worse.

For military and political strategists in Washington, Syria’s civil war represents a different kind of nightmare. The Russia-Iran nexus is just about the worst possible outcome for the US, whose status as global hegemon was already fading in the face of an ascendant China. 

Put simply, the partnership between Washington’s two worst geopolitical enemies represents a kind of “sum of all fears” scenario and to make matters worse, the alliance between Tehran and Moscow looks as though it will apply to Iraq as well, raising the spectre of the US being kicked out of the country it “liberated” after 9/11. 

And while there’s nothing funny about the plight of the Syrian people, there’s quite a bit to laugh at when it comes to this latest (and perhaps greatest) US foreign policy blunder which is why we found the following bit from Defense News particularly amusing. Apparently, the Iran-backed (and US supported) Shiite militias battling ISIS in Iraq aren’t getting the kind of logistical support they need from Washington and so they have begun attaching Russian guns to Abrams tanks and firing Iran-stamped ammo. Here’s more:

Earlier this month, Shia militiamen in Iraq dropped off an American-supplied Abrams tank at a US-supported repair facility where workers were surprised to find an attached Russian machine gun plus Iranian ammo, Defense News has learned.

 

The MIA1 main battle tank — one of 146 frontline tanks the US sold to Baghdad — was transported through the Green Zone to a US-supported Iraqi service facility at al-Muthanna that was established as part of the Pentagon’s Foreign Military Sales (FMS) program.

 

The tank was equipped with a Russian .50-caliber machine gun and Iranian-stamped 12.75-mm ammunition, according to a source at the facility.

 

“Once all the ammo was removed, as per procedure, by Iraqi personnel, we noticed Iranian markings on the back of the shell casings. Seems they put a Russian machine gun with Iranian ammunition on an Abrams tank.”

 

As Washington scrambles to adapt to the myriad, Iranian-backed Shiite militias fighting alongside its US-trained and -supplied partners in Iraq, new manifestations of shifting alliances may threaten the relevance of US end-use monitoring in that war-torn country.

 

The US-Russian tank hybrid could constitute twin violations of Iraq’s FMS agreements with Washington, due to unauthorized use by Shiite militias and the unsanctioned addition of the Russian gun and Iranian ammo, Pentagon officials say.

 

“Any time you do a foreign military sale, there’s a requirement that you do end-use monitoring, and it’s a violation if you do alterations,” Vice Adm. Joseph Rixey, director of the Pentagon’s Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) told Defense News.

 

Interviewed in Washington this week at the annual Association of the US Army conference, neither Rixey, the Pentagon’s FMS chief, nor Maj. Gen. Mark McDonald, chief of the US Army Security Assistance Command, had knowledge of the event recounted to Defense News. However, both men suggested that their Iraqi customers had an obligation to report such occurrences in a timely and accurate manner.

 

“If they brought it into the maintenance facility, then that should be reported to our US folks there, and then we can have a discussion about how, ‘This is not what we’re going to do,’” McDonald said.

 

McDonald was deputy commander at the time the Iraqi tank deal was concluded, and noted that the FMS contract includes a maintenance package that covers the facility in question. “We eventually got them to buy the maintenance and training package, so I do know there is an ongoing maintenance effort going on over there under our FMS contract, with a US company doing the maintenance.”

 

The in-country source noted that it was the first time he had encountered the hybridization of the Abrams to accommodate the Russian gun and Iranian ammo.

 

“It could be an isolated event or it could mark the beginning of something worrisome. It’s too early to tell … but given the strange bedfellows over there in the Amber Zone, you never know.”

Yes, “you never know”, but what appears to have happened here is that because the Iran-backed Shiite militias are more adept than the Iraqi army on the battlefield, they’re the ones driving the tanks.

As a reminder, here’s their assessment of America’s role in providing support for the ground campaign against ISIS in Iraq (via Reuters):

Allied Iranian-backed Shi'ite militias who are leading the fight against Islamic State in Iraq, say the United States lacks the decisiveness and the readiness to supply weapons needed to eliminate militancy in the region.

And so, because of this “lack of decisiveness and readiness”, the militiamen improvised and slapped a Russian machine gun on a US-supplied tank and loaded it up with Iranian ammo. 

As noted above, these soldiers aren’t really supposed to be driving these things which makes the following description of what unfolded when they dropped it off for service down right hilarious: 

“They brought it in through Iraqi checkpoints, back-rolled it off the trailer and then drove away.”

 


 

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Sat, 10/17/2015 - 22:29 | 6680878 greenskeeper carl
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"too many people were promised a lot of things that they're never going to get"

 

Thats the crux of it right there. Even if we stopped all this insanity overseas tomorrow and started minding our own business on our sides of those two great big oceans, we'd still hit the wall in a decade or so(maybe Im being optimistic, but you get the point). Its in the best interests of those in charge to keep us distracted from this with an endless stream of imaginary hobgoblins. Since the political will to actually fix any of these things doesn't exist, we will just keep going full speed ahead.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:32 | 6679850 mrgneiss
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If you need help waking up, further than ZH takes you, read the revelations of the ex-military whistleblower Corey Goode:

http://spherebeingalliance.com/blog

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 10:11 | 6681608 Jerome Lester H...
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Good grief...are you serious? This guy is a nutjob! Here is a sample of the lunacy you can expect to be woken up to:

What is this “Message”?

Every day focus on becoming more “Service To Others” oriented. Focus on being more “Loving” and “Focus on raising your Vibrational and Consciousness Level” and to learn to “Forgive Yourself and Others” (Thus “Releasing Karma”). This will change the Vibration of the Planet, The “Shared Consciousness of Humanity” and “Change Humanity One Person at a time” (Even if that “One Person” is yourself.). They say to treat your body as a temple and change over to a “Higher Vibrational Diet” to aid in the other changes. This sounds to many like a “Hippy Love and Peace” message that will not make a difference. I assure you the “Path” they lay out in “Their Message” is a difficult one. Even on the unlikely chance that these technologies stay “Suppressed”, imagine what a world we would live in if everyone made these changes to their selves?

The Blue Avians also gave a warning with this “Message”. They had tried to deliver this message “Three Other Times” and it had been distorted by humanity. They made it “very clear” that this information was NOT to become a “Cult or Religious Movement” nor was I to put myself (my “ego”) before the “Message” or elevate myself to a “Guru” status. Anyone who does so should be avoided and held accountable, including myself.

Thank you,

Corey “GoodETxSG” aka “Luke”

I think this guy is kind of ripping off ths episode of the IT Crowd:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=sarJtKM-Ku4

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:56 | 6679919 HardAssets
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A fiat, debt based money system must constantly expand. It must do so, because there is never enough money in the system as a whole, to cover rising interest payments on made up outta thin air fradulent debt 'money', - That debt must be rolled over & expanded, or the whole structure collapses.

WW1 wasn't so much caused by some arch-duke getting shot. It was about an England bled dry by the same type of financial system - so they could no longer compete against an upcoming, industrious Germany. The banksters have hollowed out much of America's industrial capacity in order to keep their Ponzi payments coming. And, unless there is some kind of unlikely, miraculous change in the now childish mentality of the people - there will likely be a WW 3.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 16:35 | 6679990 El Vaquero
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The retardo-inbred monarchs at the time didn't help much either.  That was such a stupid fucking war. 

 

There are a lot of people spoiling for a fight today and ponzi finance is everywhere. 

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 09:38 | 6681576 herkomilchen
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You're right about WW1, but wrong about how a debt based money system works.  It does not have to expand...it just feels like a heroin hit when it does.

If people were willing to buckle down, work hard, and suffer painful reallocations of capital and labor, debt could be paid down and the debt-based monetary system could contract, no problem.  Not that people are going to be willing to do that, but it's possible to.

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 09:52 | 6681593 El Vaquero
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~$60 trillion in debt plus whatever unfunded liabilities the government has and ~$11 trillion in M2 money.  It MUST expand just to keep on servicing the existing debt.  If it contracts, M2 shrinks and the (non existant) ability to pay all of that debt off evaporates.  Fractional reserve banking is a ponzi scheme.  It is a scam.  It is a fraud. 

Mon, 10/19/2015 - 07:41 | 6683917 herkomilchen
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Yes, fractional reserve banking is a scam and a fraud.  What of it.  That has nothing to do with the incorrect claim that M2 must expand.  The size of the money supply, the level of interest rates, and the legitimacy of the monetary unit are each different things.

The money supply can shrink due to debt contraction even as interest rates are forcibly kept down by the Fed.  Wa-la.  Moreover, if the government took its share of the pain along with the public and slashed spending, it could even handle a higher interest rate on the debt as well.

Paring down debt would be simple.  People and businesses add a reality-adjustment back in to interest rates they are quoted.  Add a best guess of what the cost of money should be, like 8%.  Use this adjustment factor when making economic calculations deciding whether to take new loans or pay down existing ones.  Then people scale back their lifestyles and bust their asses accordingly to earn the money necessary to pay down their debt.  So long as the Fed slowed down its printing to allow it, technology-fueled productivity gains would more than make up for the resulting shrinkage in the money supply enabling debtors to successfully pay off loose money loans with tight money.

You seem to be confusing size of money supply with the fact there is not enough cash available to meet all the claims on cash circulating.  That is a separate issue.  Indeed, if every bank account holder tried to withdraw his funds in cash, the banks could not oblige, and we'd have good old fashioned bank runs. If that happened across a lot of banks at once, the whole fractional reserve system could collapse.  This is the toppling of the ponzi scheme you allude to.

But this risk has nothing to do with paying down debt to contract the money supply in orderly fashion.  That doesn't break anything.

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 09:27 | 6681554 herkomilchen
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Russia prefers peace with the EU and USA

No it doesn't.  The Russian government is no different than the U.S. government in that it also needs to have a strong dose of fear and enemies to maintain the devotion of its own population and justify expanding its power.  The Russian population, previously conflicted over Putin's obvious corruptions, exploitations, and repressions is no doubt cheering for Putin right now as a savvy, capable, strong leader to unite behind.  This conflict is benificial for the TPTB in both governments.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 14:45 | 6679732 Tyrone Shoelaces
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If they keep fuckin with us like that, we will be forced to bomb their hospital!

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 14:46 | 6679739 besnook
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at least they won't shoot back.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 14:51 | 6679750 Chupacabra-322
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Don't forget to go back to the War Scene of the Crime & destroy any evidence ala 911.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 14:46 | 6679735 besnook
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the guys who put that together would be a lot of fun to play with. they should lowride a tank just for fun. and bring out the paint! we need color!

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 14:47 | 6679741 netpounder
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In the US, cars are made with parts from Mexico and China.  Should that be reported to US folk here?

 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 14:52 | 6679753 El Vaquero
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Only if the parts come from a factory not owned by a company on the approved list. 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 14:51 | 6679751 PoasterToaster
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Proxy wars in the Middle East are a continuation of the old Cold War policies.  These "terrorist" groups have always been created by the US Intelligence community.  Remember the Mujahadeen?

It should surprise no one that CIA terrorist groups have been deployed against the US itself.  It was always going to be used against the people at some point.  They did it in Europe with Operation Gladio, and soon they will be doing it here again (9/11) after a long build up of fear propaganda.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:00 | 6679778 Chupacabra-322
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The Mujahideen was the Template for the current AL CIA duh terror organizations & its affiliates.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 14:53 | 6679756 css1971
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So the headlines for this should be that the US is now supplying M1 Abrams tanks to Iranian militias.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 14:55 | 6679761 thunderchief
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Your tax dollars at work.

Let freedom  ring.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 14:57 | 6679769 VWAndy
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Trust no one. I would love to hear a good explination for this one. Logistics are a bitch.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 14:57 | 6679771 spacehedgie
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So, the M1A1 tank went missing, and was reclassified as an MIA1?

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 14:57 | 6679772 Ms No
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Holy shit, could this get any more rediculous?  Things went from the appearance of invincibility to clown car really fast.  I hope they don't do anything stupid to save face but they will.  It turns out we don't look so good when we are not pummeling poor tribes with vastly superior equipment.    

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 14:58 | 6679775 Son of Captain Nemo
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This equipment showing up on an American built Abrams tank must have been a nice little packaged joke for the U.S. military along with the 26 gun salute sendoff the Russians gave the U.S.S. Theodore Roosevelt on it's "bon voyage"!

Isn't this all such crazy fun for the American MIC?...

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:12 | 6679801 css1971
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Now. Isn't that just taking the piss?

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 14:58 | 6679776 Teh Finn
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I'm shocked, partially, that we left $9 million dollar tanks over there for those idiots.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:15 | 6679780 Max Steel
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 morons think they are genius. :D

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:38 | 6679877 adjudged
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Dunning Krueger...

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:08 | 6679790 Son of Captain Nemo
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I'm shocked, partially, that we left $9 million dollar tanks over there for those idiots.

Compare $9 million to the $28 trillion and counting the American economy is in debt and that tank becomes trivial... No?...

After all this Country came unglued a very long time ago with nobody willing to make it stop that delivered us to your observation of how out it's mind America is?...

So sit back and enjoy watching the reality version of "The Onion" that all the readers on ZH or most of them helped to create!

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:19 | 6679817 TeethVillage88s
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Used to be that US Congress had to approve all FMS Sales to foreign countries. Now with Executive Orders and Lobbyist Writing all major legislation I'm not sure.

We know US Congress is at least or almost as good as the Afghan Government.

$9 Million per tank sounds about right to me. $9 X 146 = $1.31 Billion or more with modification of whatever type.

- Yeah, lets outsource more jobs, start more overseas wars, make a complete ass out ourselves in Syria, and teach our best and brightest young men that the US Government is run by Dipshits!

- And let's never question monopolies that sell coca cola or Pepsi for more money than a gallon of gasoline

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:06 | 6679791 Teh Finn
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Russia has run large scale experiments to test the feasibility of cutting the country off the World Wide Web, a senior industry executive has claimed.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11934411/Russia-...

You won't be missed.  :(

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:16 | 6679814 Max Steel
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Torygraph outlet won't be missed either for spinning things.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:17 | 6679816 HenryHall
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It's all about making sure the Internet continues working for domestic and near abroad countries even if the US tries to cut them off.

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 11:27 | 6681747 die standing
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It's potentially more simple to understand their mess/internet from the perspective of what it is NOT all about:

doing a service in the direction of cosmic-knowing and multiplication of love bringing peace, happiness and prosperity to all.

 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:26 | 6679833 Teh Finn
Sat, 10/17/2015 - 16:58 | 6680046 Dapper Dan
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hey finny this the guy who wrote ur link?

Emilio Iasiello

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Emilio Iasiello has more than 12 years’ experience as a strategic cyber intelligence analyst, supporting US government civilian and military intelligence organizations, as well as a private sector company providing cyber intelligence to Fortune 100 clients. He has delivered cyber threat presentations to domestic and international audiences and has published extensively in peer-reviewed journals.

 

Once you see it, it is obvious..  right?

 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:27 | 6680487 Crocodile
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Replace the word Russia with United States and you are closer to the truth.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:11 | 6679798 TuPhat
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We didn't just leave them the tanks.  We sold them the tanks.  That is after we gave them the money to buy them with.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 18:47 | 6680379 Wahooo
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So...we bought the tanks from ourselves?

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:25 | 6680482 Crocodile
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The power of the free-printing-press! Also known as counterfeiting.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 20:32 | 6680637 BarnacleBill
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Wahoo. The American people bought the tanks from the MIC and gave them away.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:27 | 6679836 TheRideNeverEnds
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We sold the tanks to them. Part of the sales contract forced upon them was the 'extended maintenance package' obliging them to purchase all add-ons and maintenance from companies owned by the people who sold them the tanks in the first place. You know the ones, the ones that are mostly owned by congress-people and the like.  The ongoing maintenance is the extra fat in the deal for TPTB.  As with many things these days they don't make the real money with front end sale its back end support with proprietary maintenance and software upgrades ect that are required to keep it functional which becomes the income streams and therefore business model for the entire life of the equipment.

 

This is obviously a huge problem for the MIC and their profit margins.  Make no mistake, this is entirely about their war profiteering scams not going as planned. If they actually wanted to help these people by selling them tanks they would not give two shits about what kind of stuff they strapped onto them after the fact whether it be Russian machine guns or Anime paint-jobs.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:24 | 6680476 Crocodile
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Halliburton and companies like Raytheon, Lock-heed Martin, Boeing and the paid mercenaries to go with it.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:02 | 6679782 Lostinfortwalton
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We give the militias we like Abrams tanks but we don't give them machine guns to mount on it?

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:18 | 6679808 HenryHall
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The Iranians who are doing the fighting on the ground were quoted as saying US lacks  "readiness to supply". Presumably machine gun ammo in this case, or maybe spare barrels etc.. Soldiers in the field are a bit more concerned about gear actually working than having used the right parts and completed the right paperwork. Unlike those at the maintenance depot.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:19 | 6679796 HenryHall
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First combat use in Syria of MLRS Solnetspekova which seems to be a cluster bomb development from the TOS-1A Buratino. NATO reporting name "weapon from hell".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YpVrtQ37ko

Recent unloading of a Solnetspekov in Syria

https://twitter.com/goodru_bear/status/652503279562264576

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 16:08 | 6679942 Joe Plane
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Solntsepek (-s pl.) is the right name.

Translates rougly to 'sunburn'.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 16:55 | 6680039 STP
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That system is pretty friggin radical!  The end result of one of those barrages looked like a ten minute ammo dump event!

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:56 | 6680542 pupdog1
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Holy crap.

That's more Vlad firepower in three minutes than the Pentagon's fake war on ISIS in an entire year.

Good clean fun!

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:14 | 6679807 Pumpkin
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Shocked my ass.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:22 | 6680470 Crocodile
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Pull the light bulb out of it and feel better.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:29 | 6679838 JerrySpringer B...
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Thy Game Is Over! CHECKMATE BIOTCHES!

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:37 | 6679873 sidiji
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duh, they ran out of US 50cal ammo...gotta use what you have.  what do these bureaucrats think war is?  It's a chaotic cluster fuck.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:43 | 6679887 The Answer Is 42
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Your warranty is void, Sir. See here? "The end user agrees to...install third-party accessories."

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:44 | 6679889 pupdog1
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“Any time you do a foreign military sale, there’s a requirement that you do end-use monitoring, and it’s a violation if you do alterations,” Vice Adm. Joseph Rixey, director of the Pentagon’s Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA) told Defense News.

 

Note to Admiral Dipshit...

The Rags ain't following your program. They never do. You expected a different result this time with the US TAXPAYER'S front-line battle tanks ?

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 18:08 | 6680277 optimator
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Remember Obama fired all the General Officers that didn't see it his way.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:46 | 6679894 Moccasin
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It is a tragic comedy but the true believers insist the charade must go on to the bitter end. USSA USSA #1...bla bla bla... nationalism raw-raw-raw....The ending of the empire was foreshadowed long ago and the epilogue is understood by anyone who applies basic logic, but for those in denial, denial never ends well.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:47 | 6679896 WarPony
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War for profit.  The Rothschild connection:

http://www.tshirtfaction.com/?page_id=93

Kissinger wants ISIL defeated, or, continued chaos:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/a-path-out-of-the-middle-east-collapse-14450...

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 16:04 | 6679932 WarPony
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All part of the one-world plan, east joins west:

We shall use our grant-making power so to alter life in the United States that it can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union".

http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/regionalism/dodd.htm

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 15:53 | 6679905 Md4
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Ok...so they're inventive...

That's what we get for throwing taxpayer-paid-for (probably with deficit spending plus interest) American military equipment around...

...hoping it'll do somebody, some good...somewhere.

Folks, when ARE WE going to march on DC to fucking clean up that menacing shithole once and for all?

When...?

m

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 18:44 | 6680369 Wahooo
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Inventive. Resourceful. Reminds me of a country I once knew.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:18 | 6680460 Crocodile
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We spend billions on funding two sides of any war since America's inception and can't fix a road or bridge in our own country; that says it all where the loyalty to the nation is and who the traitors are.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 16:16 | 6679954 Solomonpal
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Looks to me considering the various parties pairing off it the prelude to the battle in the valley of Megiddo.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 16:17 | 6679958 Seal
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Jai Ma Deuce! Jai Jai

 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 16:22 | 6679970 Government need...
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Look, the US .gov is going to start some big hot wars with russia and china, and then call us all to arms.  That will be the time to grab our guns all right, when the .gov is fully committed overseas.  

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 16:43 | 6680008 milking institute
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sure hope there's no volkswagen parts involved here,the FBI,EPA,ETC will be on you like stink on sh%#!

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 18:35 | 6680017 opport.knocks
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As I have said before, it would be perfectly legit for Syria/Russia to airdrop pallets of AK-47s at freeway rest stations for people heading to the next million man march in Washington. Then the psychopathic MIC regime could have a taste of what they do.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:16 | 6680453 Crocodile
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I'm sure it is more than just ammo and guns; how about some rocket propelled grenade launches and radar jamming equipment etc.

 

What I do not understand is why the Russians do not just follow behind the air-drops and then blow up the junk with the people who come for it.  The people coming for it can easily be identified as both anti-Assad and known militants.

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 09:37 | 6681573 sandhillexit
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Turkish government is sweating the same question. Remember they are about to go back to the polls because Sultan Erdogan did not like the election result a few months ago. He wants an absolute majority for some reason.  Something about changing their Constitution.  Will the Syrian Kurds turn their fight to help their fellow Kurdish speakers north of the border once they are better equipped and have cleaned up the badlands of east Syria?  

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 16:50 | 6680023 Government need...
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Ironic that US .gov will enthusiastically supply M1A1 main battle tanks to sandnigger jihadis, but would fuckin freak out if some US citizens took delivery.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:13 | 6680441 Crocodile
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They know who their enemy is (why America's enemy is the shadow gov't) and the other enemies are distant and easily controlled.  They will demand the guns in America or make it so difficult to obtain and/or tax it it to death.  I'm waiting for the guns that come out with required software for operation. 

 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 16:59 | 6680047 foxenburg
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.50-caliber machine gun

 

that would be a 12,7mm

 

 

 

 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 17:15 | 6680082 mantrid
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wre are all frenemies now

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 10:09 | 6681616 J Jason Djfmam
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The frenemy of my end, is my end.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 18:05 | 6680262 Lea
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So that's the new glorious line of the USA? Bitching like girlies because guys use what they should to fight?

I feel for the Americans who have a sense of shame.

 

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 10:10 | 6681620 J Jason Djfmam
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The USA.

Bitching like girlies since 2008.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 18:23 | 6680310 CWolfRu
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> Russian MG

> On Abrams

 

Does somebody see shattering of reality there? Me not.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 18:26 | 6680319 Able Ape
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"Tank Tailors" - Alterations Are Our Specialty - Git yer tank spiffed up fer Operation Oatmeal......

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 18:30 | 6680334 quadratic_equation
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Who's to blame?  Obama the idiot, also known as the most intelligent Harvard law school graduate and community organizer.  This goes to show the leadership intelligence and logic of a blackman.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 18:41 | 6680361 Wahooo
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Your average NBA player would be a mote competebt president than obama. It's not about black. They found a shithead in south Chicago and ride him into the White House.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:08 | 6680421 Crocodile
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They found a child molested boy from Kenya and raped him of his entire being & molded him into a stiff-necked psychopathic liberal; we should have great empathy for him even if we disagree with ALL of his policies.  He is merely a product of "confusion" in what must be a person who has never known who he is and therefore is who he is told.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 20:09 | 6680577 Collapsed_Elast...
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Wrong

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 18:48 | 6680384 Zero Point
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Lol. What a bunch of fucking amateurs. Having your post sale, service contract backended by the opposition is a sure sign of a lame duck corporation. That's where all your real profit is made.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 18:52 | 6680392 Sword61
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US Shocked To Find Russian Machine Gun With Iranian Ammo Attached To Abrams Tank

Legalistic trivia , they are fighting a f**king war, you do what you need to do and some a- hole trys to shove some administrative sh*t over a minor issue like this down your throat stick them in the front line with the non functional equipment and see how they like being turned into raspberry puree.

 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 18:52 | 6680393 Sword61
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Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:10 | 6680422 Duc888
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Pimp my ride muthafukka.

 

(you didn't build that).

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:11 | 6680432 ThrowAwayYourTV
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(HEAD DOWN IN MY HANDS)

Please America! Never ever ever hire a president with two daughterss and no son ever again. PLEASE!

Wheres Kennedy when you need him?

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:17 | 6680458 Catullus
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Gasp. They put a Russian made 50 cal on an Abrams tank.

They're better off mounting it to an armored pick-up truck. What a waste.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:26 | 6680483 juicy_bananas
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I had a guaranteed military sale with ED 209 - renovation program, spare parts for twenty-five years... Who cares if it worked or not?

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 10:11 | 6681626 J Jason Djfmam
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So it's got a few bugs.

It's not a bug, it's a feature.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:42 | 6680511 kaboomnomic
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Dude, you sold that damn thing. It belongs to them. Cut the crap, will ya'!!

Those iraqi's? Can paint that tanks pink, put a mattress in it, and put sign, fun-fun for 15 bucks!! For all i care.

Enough with rants & grumble dude...

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:44 | 6680513 83_vf_1100_c
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US tank, Russian .50, Iranian ammo is not shocking. It's a small world now. I have a Chinese made SKS with Russki ammo stored in a US made safe in TX. Not even surprising.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 20:06 | 6680568 Omega_Man
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bah.. I have the soviet SKS and the chinese ammo and no safe...

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 20:08 | 6680573 Omega_Man
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and 83 GS 1100 ES

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 21:04 | 6680711 83_vf_1100_c
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  It takes a big man to admit on a public form to owning an old Zuke. Tis a nice ride.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 21:29 | 6680771 Omega_Man
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well it was the fastest production land vehicle in 1983

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 21:37 | 6680792 Omega_Man
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I sold it after I hit a car head on... now buy silver

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 10:13 | 6681630 J Jason Djfmam
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It's fortunate you had not bought it after hitting a car head on.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 19:53 | 6680531 acomfort
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BIG TROUBLE !

The US MIC is going to be really pissed off at loosing the sale of machine guns and bullets to other countries. 

 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 20:06 | 6680569 Omega_Man
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maybe it's better

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 20:08 | 6680576 Omega_Man
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when the shit hits the fan you pick up anything with ammo in it... 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 20:21 | 6680607 no1ninja
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Not all that unusual, there are a lot of damaged tanks from conflicts that are sold and moved for scrap.  It's not uncommon for folks in that part of the world taking a tank for salvage through checkpoints. 

 

They obviously put it together in an unorthodox manner indicating the base was stripped of original ordinance. 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 20:29 | 6680629 NoWayJose
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The U.S. may have given Iraq the tanks, but that doesn't mean they gave Iraq any ammo! (Or that ISIS hasn't captured it all) Maybe the hope is that the Iraqis drive those tanks into Syria and find some para-dropped ammo in the middle of the desert.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 20:39 | 6680650 no1ninja
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I think they are pissed that the checkpoints let it trhough.... but there are scrap yards near the border too... you either make a law that limits transportation of scrap, or you cry over spillt milk like some are doing now.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 20:43 | 6680662 ToSoft4Truth
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Same tank that nailed the Dr. Offices? 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 20:44 | 6680663 Frankie Carbone
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This middle east situation is becoming comical, almost too funny. Seriously, you can't pay for entertainment this good!

In other news, the US thinks that it can sail a naval armada into Chinese national waters and intimidate the chinese. 

God help us. Please God, save us from our rulers. 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 21:01 | 6680705 jtg
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The US policy of unintelligence has blown up in its face in the Middle East.

Now Gods gift to humanity lurches into the pacific rim to start another war with China for nothing.

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:12 | 6681284 wizteknet
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My french tanker friend laughs we fking with a big ass ant pile. Anywho that carrier coming back for maintenance is really why, rest is BS... Even thou supposed two are heading there might be 3 carrier battle groups. CWAZY

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 08:59 | 6681509 Dave's not here
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Pretty sure God has givin up.  I'm thinking he's at the "they deserve everything they gonna get" stage.

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 08:59 | 6681510 Dave's not here
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Pretty sure God has givin up.  I'm thinking he's at the "they deserve everything they gonna get" stage.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 20:44 | 6680665 theyjustcantstop
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probably one left, and an isis fighter got in it, it ran out of fuel, and they left it.

 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 20:58 | 6680697 jtg
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Contracts? The US doesn't need to adhere to contracts but it expects everyone else to.

What else can you expect from the 'exceptional and indispensable' lunatic mentality.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 21:07 | 6680722 johmack2
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BREAKING

 

Brutal Blaze: 10,000 sq m warehouse on fire in Russia’s St. Petersburg

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGuD51339Zs
Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:16 | 6681289 wizteknet
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laser? weird

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 21:13 | 6680734 Manipuflation
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So is it going to be a problem if I am hanging an AK-47 out the window of the 95 Lincoln Town Car that I bought with cash today?   

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:17 | 6681294 wizteknet
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suggest u don't, keep it on the passenger floor board

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 21:25 | 6680763 Lookout Mountain
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Nice mod. Need to trick it out with some LED lighting underneath and some chrome and lifters.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 21:26 | 6680765 Omega_Man
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if Putin Air dropped AK's to the US militia I am sure we would use them..

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 22:11 | 6680848 Grimaldus
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I'm not seeing much of a problem, battlefield improvisation is a normal thing, no big deal. Someone just did what they needed to do.

US taxpayer money going to the middle east for any reason is a issue however. Not one fucking dime of it needs to go to the middle east or anywhere else. If it does, then it is a crime.

 

 

 

Grimaldus

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:08 | 6681283 wizteknet
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correctomundo

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 09:36 | 6681570 Government need...
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Agreed, and if the .govtards really want to be involved over there, let's bring back some old fashioned colonialism.  Get that damn oil and send it back Stateside so we can do some monster truckin @ $0.89 cents per gallon!

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 10:14 | 6681634 J Jason Djfmam
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Remember the "sticky bomb".

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 22:21 | 6680865 DUGTRUX
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so who cares? as long as they are shootin each other... we should give them both sides)all the guns they want . Then we can do biz with who evers left standing.

 

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:19 | 6681295 wizteknet
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how fk evil u capitalist u

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 22:27 | 6680870 Monetas
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This is a non-story .... Toyota 4X4s .... don't come with anti-aircraft guns .... this is red meat for the Putin Fan Club .... otherwise, it's drivel .... hey, you can't go in there .... circus employees only ?

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 22:50 | 6680926 Baby Bladeface
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Your repeatious socialist tripe is totally lacking adequacy.

Propagate elsewhere.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 23:12 | 6680981 Monetas
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Your repetitious socialist tripe is inadequate. Propagandize elsewhere.

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:21 | 6681297 wizteknet
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kept saying no stingers or anti air its all death, need anti air & anti tank if yah infantry, moltov works on tanks thou

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 22:27 | 6680873 Elliptico
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Synthesis. 

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 22:28 | 6680874 agNau
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One common thread. Military Industrial Complex. They care not who buys their equipment. Hence the workaround.

"Unexpectedly" fell in the wrong hands.
Conflict now enabled for longer.
Now we must order more and attempt to get them in the right hands.
We'll para drop them somewhere in the middle.
The MIC is as always grateful.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 22:35 | 6680884 LoveTruth
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Never in history has the US had a president like the present one lost in "space".

 

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:22 | 6681301 wizteknet
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Fk it going to go shoot a 18 hole

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 22:39 | 6680886 Monetas
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Wait, if they removed the main cannon .... and replaced it with a 50 cal machine gun .... that would be news worthy ?                                           

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 23:00 | 6680949 InanimateCarbonRod
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No worries. Those tanks have transponders built into the hull. Makes it easier for the Hellfire to acquire.  Also, the electronics suite is compromised.  Just clearing the field so the Army can hit the DoD for new new newer tanks next year.  President Trump would not say no to something that will create jobs in America.

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:24 | 6681302 wizteknet
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Since u brought it up, them tanks basically gps'ed for our bombers top secret lol shit

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 23:00 | 6680950 dsty
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Hype the bad news

Hype the bad news

zh, read all about it

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 23:21 | 6680988 Teh Finn
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OT:  What happened to all the Jade Helm paranoia?

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:28 | 6681309 wizteknet
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It was a training exercise... Big deal. 20 million mofos overrun that crap, easily especially zombie starving horde.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 23:29 | 6681005 Zero-Hegemon
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End use monitoring? So is that like a US paid referee blows a whistle and issues a foul? It's their last warning before the yellow card comes out.

Sat, 10/17/2015 - 23:54 | 6681035 dogismycopilot
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Only an out of touch DC Policy Wonk would mention FSA standards during a war. Douchebag.

Also, I think they shoud be fucking grateful that some ISIS/CIA jerkoff hasn't yet turned one of the CAPTURED M1s into a VBIED and rolled it into the Green Zone.

The US Middle East foreign policy reminds me of a stupid 1980s soap opera "As the World Turns" or some bullshit.

 

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 00:48 | 6681125 Graph
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...and Mexucan tamales in ration packs.

Global economy in full swing.

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 03:08 | 6681241 SmittyinLA
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Shocking this happened when we removed the only secular anti communist government in the region, removed their military and civil government, destroyed all criminal records, prohibited opposition parties from forming, protected a mullah militia with air cover and cash and training, and carved up the country like a thanksgiving turkey, just shocking.

Is there anything g we missed?

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:30 | 6681266 wizteknet
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I kid u not before they perfected the 120 mm firing system on the Abrams, they put tow missiles on them mofo's. So friggen funny! They had to have a backup plan till it was fixed. Russians didn't even know. Yes I played with both, glad I didn't get talked into Iraq v1, depleted uranium crap or Iraq v2. Only thing that piss me off was I couldn't touch a pershing, aka pre patriot, they shoulda let me!

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:03 | 6681270 fel.temp.reparatio
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:-)

US tank... check
Russian guns... check
Iranian amo... check
Cloak... check
Dagger... check

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:03 | 6681275 wizteknet
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SA-300, 400 checkmate

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:02 | 6681272 monad
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Bullshit

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:27 | 6681306 buzzsaw99
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Put simply, the partnership between Washington’s two worst geopolitical enemies represents a kind of “sum of all fears” scenario and to make matters worse...

bullshit. they love it. the mic generals jerk off every night thinking about a new cold war, ww3, ww4, whatever. the worse things are the better they like it. meanwhile hitlary and owebomba cash in on the carnage + protection racket.

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:34 | 6681313 wizteknet
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Democraps are fked, it dont matter think trump wins over there crap... Obamacare premiums go up almost twice as high shot them assholes!

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 04:42 | 6681320 buzzsaw99
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“We eventually got them to buy the maintenance and training package...

that's all they're worried about.

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 10:16 | 6681638 J Jason Djfmam
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You really need that paint protection package.

Sun, 10/18/2015 - 13:27 | 6682206 Rock On Roger
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ya

"I can knock a hundred dollars off that trucoat."

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5gwc4UizUc

 

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