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Trump Extends Lead Over Jeb & The GOP Field, But Carson Looms
The Donald, crushing the hopes of the status quo, has extended his lead among GOP Primary voters with 25% of the support (up from 21% in September). However, the latest WSJ/NBC poll finds Ben Carson coming on strong with 22% support. Aside from Rubio (13%, up from 11%), this leaves "the rest" of the crowd lagging horribly with Chris Christie, Rand Paul, Mike Huckabee, and John Kasich looking to go the way of 'the Walker'.
As The Wall Street Journal reports,
Donald Trump and Ben Carson continue to broaden their appeal among Republican primary voters and have widened their lead over Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and many other more-experienced candidates, a new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll finds.
Mr. Bush, once considered the GOP’s likely nominee, is also lagging behind his onetime protege, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, who is emerging as the leading contender to rally the party’s establishment wing against the rise of insurgent outsiders such as Messrs. Trump and Carson.
The new poll, conducted Oct. 15-18, underscores the durability—even the gathering strength—of anti-Washington candidates who had long been viewed as likely to be flash-in-the-pan political phenomena.
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Mr. Trump, the reality-television celebrity and businessman, was the first choice of GOP primary voters, with 25% support, up from 21% in a late September Journal/NBC News poll.
Mr. Carson, the retired neurosurgeon, placed second in the new survey, with 22% support, a slight rise over last month despite controversy over statements he made that an observant Muslim shouldn’t be U.S. president.
Behind them was Mr. Rubio, who rose to 13% in the poll from 11% last month. He was the only other GOP candidate to draw double-digit support.
Mr. Bush, who led the field as recently as June, when he was first choice of 22% of GOP primary voters, drew 8% in the latest poll.
We leave it to one Californian construction worker to sum it all up...
“The circle [of people] that runs around staying in politics, they become so involved that they are not doing what they came to office to do anymore,” said Mr. Montagnoli, who said he couldn’t support Mr. Bush. “I think fresh people and nonpolitical people would do a lot better.”
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Trump addresses some of the real issues while the rest of the GOP hacks watch, scratch their asses and say nothing of substance.
I almost feel sorry for those dupes who gave money to Jeb thinking he was a shoe-in and that they would be buying access to the Presidency...
Almost...
Nah! Screw 'em!
He will be the choice and Hillary or Biden will be the other choice; remember Presidents are selected, not elected and Congress is there to give the illusion that a Constitution exists. Never forget those things.
If voting mattered, it would have been made illegal years ago.
I hope for Biden or Hillary. We're headed for a train wreck, might as well floor it!
Neocons for Gunfodder 2016
speaking of GunFodder what happened to McCain Lite, what was his name again?
didn't even make the poll?
Apparently nobody knows his new cell number....
Carson is GOP's version of a Magic Negro. Nicer guy than Obama, who is pure evil on a stick, but let's face it: another zero.
This is a good take: http://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=5400
Too bad that the linertarians don't have a chance in hell.
sameo-sameo.
Lindsey Grahamnesty...McCain's openly gay sidekick.
If voting didn't matter, groups like Acorn wouldn't have been trying to cast votes for dead people, or for the entire Dallas Cowboys team in Nevada.
No, voting matters. The media however does try to make up your mind for you.
"He will be the choice and Hillary or Biden will be the other choice; remember Presidents are selected, not elected and Congress is there to give the illusion that a Constitution exists."
This is only true because people talk the talk but refuse to walk the talk. I suspect you are one of those people. Some of us have no fear of TPTB and therefore do not allow them to determine our destiny. Good luck being a sheep....
another dumb fucking idiot who can't distinguish between rhetoric.
WTF are you talking about?
I never said I supported Trump. I said he was the only candidate bringing up some real issues.
1) Trump doesn't mean a bit of what he says.
2) Trump is the guy who BUYS politicians - he's come right out and said so.
DONALD TRUMP 2016: FUCK THE FRYING PAN, BABY! GIMME DAT SWEET SWEET FIRE!
I agree. I'm a Ron Paul casualty and Donald is just the FUCK YOU I have been looking for.
Protest Vote: Trump 2016!!!
Suck it, Washington. You want to create a huge fucking mess?! Here's a little help, from the "people"
Hug your prostitutes hard tonight.
Nothing gets worse than that fag shit Obama. Nothing mother fucker, don't be no fool.
'Experienced' politicians are the source of the world's problems.
Yes and I will go out on a limb and say that if we get another then they may not live long.
A Trump/Carson ticket would be kinda cool....though from what i hear from Carson...he's Pro "war on terror", pro big brother, pro MIC pro STATISM with the "conservative" veneer
Trump will just be entertaining to watch as PREZ!
This shit isn't getting solved politically anyway so i may as well be entertianed....and for fucks sake not another Clinton or Bush....and sure as fuck Communist Sanders the zionist sock puppet
"...not another Clinton or Bush."
Depressing to think about, but did you know:?
There has been a Bush or Clinton on the ticket or in the Administration for EVERY PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AFTER 1976?!
36 years of Bush/Clinton is enough!
The moment Barry brought it Rahm and appointed Hillary SoS, he was pretty much as good as the Clintons' adopted son.
You hear wrong then. Carson is not pro big brother. Anything but.
Hillary is the presumptive Democrat candidate and will, in all likelihood, be on the ballot in 2016...despite the email scandal and wishful thinking to the contrary.
If Trump wins the Republican nomination (and it is looking more viable every week) then in all probability, from a tactical and logical perspective, he will select a woman as a VP running mate to close the gender gap and have a designated pit bull that can attack Hillary without the accusations of misogyny to cloud his campaign. And it ain't gonna be the robot Fiorina...
Good post.
Not liking people in Carson campaign supporting Farrakhan
We live in a world where the Farrakhan's speak more truth than politicians. Carson is the only person there who has led a life of integrity and has an internal restraint that is highly effective.
Won't matter anyway because even if there is an election, which is doubtful, there will not be an inauguration apart from divine intervention at this point. King Obmama or some similar title. Puke bucket please.
I don't see this charade holding up another 12-15 months apart from divine intervention.
Carson/Rubio, not the other way around.
If this was a race and I was a betting man one candidate is making big strides by simply delivering a message. He will need Rubio to legitimatize the ticket to the old rank and file.
QUOTE: "widened their lead over Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and many other more-experienced candidates"
Yeah - "more experienced" in high crimes and felonies; see how they use psyops at every corner; no wonder people cannot use logic or reasoning skills; they believe emotion & ignorance is logic and reason.
Experienced in bullshitting people
Stronger words man...stronger!!
when bush was governor of florida he was cayght saying, "the truth is for fools." that makes him qualified for the office.
In 2009, Obama reportedly stated "it feels good to be king". Recently (w/in 2months), he said
"I am a pretty good President and would easily win a 3rd term" (paraphrased)
Ominous, very ominous.
How can Rubio rise make some gains, that boy would have started WW3 by now just to get his no-fly zone!
Rubio is a status quo "stuffed shirt" mascquerading (sp?) as a conservative. He also worships at the feet of his masters. No way this boy could lead the free world and make any substantive changes. He is one of the ones responsible for the mess we are in.
The dot plots are real yo!
"one Californian construction worker to sum it all up..." You must know this was a migrant worker from Mexico because no true Californian could make such true statement, much less see the obvious.
If you don't vote for Trump, you are voting for the illegal stream to continue and we'll be up to our throats in Muslims.
You've been warned!!!
In the end it will be Bush vs Clinton; any other one close to the nomination will be dead before the conventions; strange accidents; suicides with 2 head wounds; cars mysteriously speeding into trees; falls off 20 story balconies, etc etc
"suicides with 2 head wounds" ... who would suspect, right?
Obama must be laughing about this dog and pony show.... There will be no election.
The bottom 4 have one more debate to shine. If not, they should fade away. But it might actually help Jeb if he picks up some traditional voters from those bottom traditional candidates that drop.
It’s significant that the outsider assault message resounds well with these registered Republicans. But it is critical to realize that this Republican Party has moved away from its conservative base and many of those Republican dissidents now list themselves as Independents. The latter are not represented in these “GOP voter" polls, but, believe me, they will register as Republicans before the primary and no doubt will vote for the outsiders. Many are more fundamentally Republican than those who've remained in the "party" and, therefore, are not likely Jeb or Rubio votes.
Frankly, we have few choices that exist unless we want a repeat of everything we have had. Trump is the best choice at this point. The extension of more years of morons may just end abruptly.
It warms my heart that the filthy Jeb Bush is going down the crapper at a rapid rate of speed. A family of war criminals. And the Saudi royal family's best friends.
The sign that times are chainging is the newest revelation in the Trump vs. Jeb fight.
In a Republican Primary, after a Republican president had served in wartime, Trump tweets to Jeb:
"Why did your brother destablize the Middle East by attacking Iraq which had no WMDs?"
Presidents are SELECTED; you will have two choices either a Clinton/Biden or Bush; take you pick, the results are the same. Unless there is divine intervention and Carson rises to the top. My guess is Carson is too good, being a person of integrity, to be allowed to enter the oval office. The possibility of Martial Law before the next President is inaugurated is a real possibility and then when have "King Obama"...puke.
You can't deny Carson's genius at his chosen field, or that neurosurgery is a younger man's game.
But why not take that one-in-ten-million gift and teach, do research, be a department chair, found an institute?
Why the FUCK take that gift and be a politician?
The Donald was born for this fight to take the country back.
Carson--certainly a very fine man--is far too genteel.
Trump says he could have avoided 9-11. Sure.......Hell, he's lucky the hijackers didn't come in as representatives of some arcitecture firm wanting to bid on the Trump Towers Istanbul project.
"I'll build a wall and make Mexico pay for it". Sounds like payback for Banco Nacional or other similar entities refusing to finance the Trump Ocean Resort Baja Mexico.
Talk is cheap. It's a "free" country <sarc>. It is easy to sway weak intellectual hands. Most candidates don't know that "the real schooling" doesn't start until the day AFTER the general election. Then and only then do they sit you down and explain WHY you can't do all the shit you promised like close down Guantanamo.
Carson's coming as soon as the Donald trips over his own ass.
Carson has an exemplory life story that is very compelling. He achieved higest honors in his field. He should stick to the book tour and inspirational speech circuit.
You pick the DJ. They pick the songs. Nothing of substance will change with the election.
And carson will be funded by the usual hedge artists......
Folks, none of this matters. It's like arguing over how many angels can you fit on a pinhead. No one, not one of the supposed candidates are addressing the real issues and rot that has consumed America. If they did they couldn't fix it. No one can! The US, like all bankrupt countries that are based on fiat and debt has to crash, burn and start over. The collapse will be spectacular and we'll garner a spot in the history books that makes the collapse of Rome look like a historical footnote. That is if this world survives WWIII which looks to be a certantity.
What does matter is who will lead us after the collapse. Will we return to the constitution and the rule of law or will the NWO finally win their quest for global dominance? Stay tuned. News at 11.
Boooooooooooooooosh has been in last place for 90 days, about as long as Carson's Ribs has been looooooooooooooooming,
Typical of media pieces, they find a reason not to mention Cruz - who is quietly moving up in the polls, is well-financed, well-organized and will look good to more and more of the 75% who aren't Trump supporters when the field thins. He scares the Establishment Party and its media backers also, but in a very different way from The Donald. Who do you think Hillary would rather be on a stage with in front of a broad national audience? Answer that truthfully, and you might begin to wake up.
Obama may pull a "Putin" ?
Fuck this shit. This country is fucking hopeless.
I'm glad to see that fat man in NJ on the bottom, where he belongs. NJ: A good place to be from.
Doesn't matter how tarnished or corrupt the Democratic nominee is: THE DEMOCRATS WILL FALL IN LINE AND VOTE FOR THEIR OWN.
THEY WILL NEVER VOTE FOR A REPUBLICAN.
The only one that crossed party lines was Ron and Rand.
And the GOP torpedoed Ron. And Trump boasts of kicking out Rand.
Whether by design or consequence - Trump is the DNC trojan horse that will get a democratic elected again.
I can see a lot of Democrats staying home and not voting this election. The choices aren't that great. A corrupt capitalist, or an insane socialist?
But but but if a billionaire is becoming president, how the interest groups gonna bribe him?