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Furious Germans Stage Massive Anti-Islam Protest: "The Concentration Camps Are Unfortunately Out Of Action"
Over the past several months, we’ve warned repeatedly that Europe’s escalating migrant crisis threatens to set off a dangerous bout of scapegoating xenophobia.
Germany’s open door policy to asylum seekers has effectively been forced on other countries by decree, a move which could very well engender intense and possibly dangerous feelings of nationalism among citizens who disagree with Berlin’s approach to the crisis. We’ve already seen Hungary resort to razor wire fences, water cannons, and tear gas to keep migrants out and Budapest’s move to close its border with Croatia and Serbia has set off a Balkan border battle wherein no one can quite figure out the most efficient way to get the refugees to Germany without allowing their countries to be used as migrant superhighways.
Meanwhile, German Chancellor Angela Merkel is beginning to feel the heat at home. Recall the following from AFP:
Germany's Angela Merkel is used to owning the room when she speaks to her party faithful, but the mood turned hostile when she defended her open-door refugee policy this week.
In a heated atmosphere, some of the 1,000-odd members at the meeting warned of a "national disaster" and demanded shuttering the borders as Germany expects up to one million migrants this year.
"Stop the refugee chaos -- save German culture + values -- dethrone Merkel," read a banner at the congress late Wednesday in the eastern state of Saxony, the home base for the anti-foreigner PEGIDA movement.
As Reuters notes, PEGIDA (which stands for Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamization of the West,) almost “fizzled out” earlier this year when the group’s leader Lutz Bachmann posted the following picture of himself on Facebook with the caption “He’s Back”:

Now, thanks to the refugee crisis, PEGIDA is apparently “back” as well, as attendance at the group’s Monday night “gatherings” swells amid the influx of Syrian asylum seekers. Here’s Reuters:
The German anti-Islam movement PEGIDA staged its biggest rally in months on Monday, sparked into fresh life on its first anniversary by anger at the government's decision to take in hundreds of thousands of migrants from the Middle East.
But it has swelled again as Germany implements Chancellor Angela Merkel's decision to accept a tide of refugees that could exceed a million this year, as she argues that Germany can not only cope but, with its aging population, will benefit in the long term.
Police declined to estimate the number of protesters but media put it at 15-20,000, somewhat below a peak of around 25,000 in January. Around 14,000 counter-demonstrators urged people to welcome refugees rather than whip up opposition.
PEGIDA supporters waved the national flag and carried posters bearing slogans such as "Hell comes with fake refugees" and "Every people should have its country, not every people a piece of Germany".
Gathering outside Dresden's historic opera house, the Semperoper, PEGIDA supporters chanted "Deport! Deport!" and "Merkel must go!".
"We're just normal people who are scared of what's coming," said 37-year-old Patrick, a car mechanic. "As a German citizen who pays taxes, you feel like you're being taken for a ride."
And Bachmann was there on Monday, not dressed as Hitler. Here’s what he had to say to the crowd which reportedly handed him bouquets of flowers:
"Politicians attack and defame us and the lowest tricks are used to keep our mouths shut. We are threatened with death, there are attacks on our vehicles and houses and we are dragged through the mud, but we are still here ... And we will triumph!"
While it's not entirely clear what "triumph" means in this context, you can get a clue or two by simply taking a look at the following homemade sign which showed up at last Monday's rally in Dresden:

More from Deutsche Welle:
The anti-"Islamization" movement PEGIDA marked its first birthday with a significant resurgence - and what many observers saw as a new radicalization. The new influx of refugees over the summer and a significant backlash against Merkel's decision to open the borders to Syrians has apparently given the racist elements in the PEGIDA movement new confidence.
Police put the attendance at Monday's PEGIDA rally at between 15,000 and 20,000 people, with an equal number of counterdemonstrators, making this the largest turnout since the movement's previous high point in February. But there was also a new aggression in the crowds: a Saxony police statement said the two sides threw "objects and fireworks" at one another, and said there were several attacks on officers themselves, who deployed pepper spray.
The media's attention was particularly drawn to a 25-minute speech by the German-Turkish writer Akif Pirincci, otherwise known for a cat-based crime fiction series and a libertarian blog called "The Axis of Good," which has often been accused of racism.
Pirincci's extraordinary and occasionally vulgar ramble, all read from notes, included references to refugees as "invaders," politicians as "gauleiters against their own people," Muslims "who pump infidels with their Muslim juice" and a threat that Germany would become a "Muslim garbage dump."
After the crowd responded with shouts of "resistance, resistance," Pirincci said, "Of course there are other alternatives - but the concentration camps are unfortunately out of action at the moment."
You read that correctly, the man who stood up in front of 10-15,000 people and delivered a 25-minute rant complete with the suggestion that Germany should fire back up the concentration camps writes cat detective novels in his spare time...

In any event, this is precisely what we meant when we said that feelings of intense nationalism could well lead directly to dangerous bouts of scapegoating xenophobia, and don't expect anyone at a PEGIDA rally to be persuaded by the argument that the influx of Syrian refugees may help Germany overcome the economic hurdles it will soon face from challenging demographic shifts.
We'll leave you with a quote from Hungary's Viktor Orban and some visuals from Monday's rally.
“Spiritually, Islam was never part of Europe. It's the rulebook of another world.”



First chant by the protesters: "Merkel muss weg" ("Merkel has to go") pic.twitter.com/Td5uor5As7
— Thomas Sparrow (@Thomas_Sparrow) October 19, 2015
"Money for our children instead of money for your asylum seekers". #Pegida. We hear what looks like a few fireworks pic.twitter.com/HXpkR54djG
— Thomas Sparrow (@Thomas_Sparrow) October 19, 2015
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Bout time
Marx once said that "Religion is the opiate of the masses".
Looks like religion has become the crystal meth of the masses.
Always so easy to brainwash a German.
Hedgeless. I resemble that remark. ;-)
According to governments - if you are against islam's intolerance, then you're a racist! Germans know a thing or two about Expulsions - 14 million of them were expelled back to Germany after WWII.
Logistically - it's entirely feasible, same goes for the mexicans.
I didn't realize how many people didn't like penguins. Jeezus.
And the Germans killed the Jews
And the Jews killed the Arabs
And the Arabs killed the hostages
And that is the news
And is it any wonder
That the monkey's confused
-Roger Waters, Perfect Sense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA4gkpZt5vs
It is sad that the Germans aren't protesting against the people that caused the war that created the refugees. You know, the same people with all the military bases in Germany, and all the German gold.
The tertiary derivative always catches the beating.
aren't musloids notorious holocaust deniars? Why not send them on a train ride Auschwitz for a history lesson? The Germans were real efficient at that before. ;-)
At least the UN PeezeKeepers are quieting things down in the Middle East working hard(ly) to stop the conflict.
They do take breaks from raping the natives occasionally.
Oh gawd... White people standing up for themselves... how "evil"...
A strong case can be made that the influx of migrants is an invasion and far removed from anything remotely resembling a lawful immigration procedure complete with paperwork. I do not blame the Germans for being upset about it and I find it a great curiosity that every time there is anything mentioned about German foreign policy or this immigration invasion the Hitler shit comes out. Can’t the German people voice their desire to control immigration without being equated to Nazi gas chambers?
And just what the hell is wrong with saying NO to Muslims?
xen·o·pho·bi·a ?zen??f?b??,?z?n??f?b??/ noun noun: xenophobiaMaybe it's not so irrational to shudder your borders.
And people get stunned by the brainwash media again. This quotation about the concentration camps was taken out of context. Pirinçci did not refer to the refugees, but to the Pegida protesters. Some politicians would like to throw Pegida protesters into prison without trial, extradite them from Germany or renounce their German citizenship, which, of course, is not possible by law.
So freedom of speech is the enemy.
It will be once they finish rewriting the laws...
HEdgeless -- you're just flat wrong here man. Sorry.
do you have your bunker finished yet H-T ? maybe you could ask Ghordius for a copy of his plans. :D :D :D
I don't always see eye to eye with hedgeless_horseman but today he's a champion amongst rabble.
Put the blame where it belongs and not on the victims. If you blame the victim then you might as well cut your own throat because the elites have targeted you too.
Seriously doubt it.
Sometimes you have to pick up a gun and shoot the home invader.
Well, that's how we roll in Florida anyway.
Yeah, but you sure held on tight to that Elian kid, didn't you?
Middle Eastern Prison riot? No, it's just those lovable gosh darned Afghan migrants welcoming their cohorts that are fresh off the raft to Greece. Who wouldn't want to step right up and volunteer to have some of these volks as their neighbors? /s.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3281532/Mob-Afghans-attack-new-a...
Almost makes you wonder why the US so generously bombs Afghans for their freedom, doesn't it?
Almost, but then a new CSI episode came on and your attention wandered.
So your assertion is the people at these rallies want to bomb Syrians but not let in the refugees from the aftermath? I highly doubt that's the majority opinion. More likely the majority is really pissed off at merkel for following uncle scam around and getting into this mess. Letting them in is just the last straw.
Have they made any effort to stop German support for these wars? This crisis is the perfect opportunity to MAKE the government do what the people want. DEMAND that the wars stop because the result is not only bad for the Middle East it's bad for Europe too. If this doesn't motivate people nothing will. If the government doesn't comply then withdraw all support for them.
I remember when I was a kid, my father made sure I had to live with the consequences of anything in which I had active/passive involvement. I could certainly protest, but nothing I could do would change his mind.
So let them protest all they want. They are really part of the problem when they let their government bomb countries on false pretexts. Cry all they want now. Maybe next time they will be more proactive when they see injustice done to others. We can only hope.
Right now, Compassion has been replaced by Fear. But truly, those parties who are responsible for the middle-east wars including those who profit from them should be forced to shoulder the burden much more. Accept these refugees, help them restore their homelands and repatriate them back when situation return to what it used to be. There really is no other choice. Refusing them is like adding salt to their profound wounds.
"Germany’s open door policy to asylum seekers"
It more like Germany's open door to welfare seekers and Islamic hijrah.
Re: "Accept these refugees, help them restore their homelands and repatriate them back when situation return to what it used to be." <-- OH, BROTHER.
HOW ABOUT THIS: STOP BOMBING THEIR HOMES AND TURNING PARTS OF THE COUNTRY INTO A SHOOTING GALLERY? Then give 'em all a one way ticket to THEIR HOME.
This refugee thing is MANUFACTURED BULLSHIT: CLOWARD-PIVEN STRATEGY WRIT LARGE. EVERYBODY NEEDS TO GO HOME.
Government doesn't need your support! Just your money, and they will take it by force!
It's only xenophobia when you're on the other side.
People are Fuckin' stupid.
Send John Brennan. He'll fix it.
Contact him by email.
E-mail was invented by a foreign immigrant! Xenophobes need not apply.
The Man Who Invented Emailhttp://techland.time.com/2011/11/15/the-man-who-invented-email/
To say he invented it is a bit of a stretch, since the article points out that someone else proposed the project, albeit quite loosely. The then-young man obviously was the developer and most likely the designer, so kudos to him for that. And lest anyone think I'm a xenophobe, I've been married to a once-foreign immigrant for over 30 years. Like my wife, the article refers to immigrants who undoubtedly came here legally and worked with no mention of trying to turn American culture upside down. The Moslems flooding into Europe hardly fit the same mold.
The Moslems flooding into Europe hardly fit the same mold.
That's true. The US and its allies didn't bomb India or fund terroist armies to overthrow the Indian government resulting in a mas exodus of refugees.
So if assholes for whom I did not vote proceed to do stupid shit overseas, I get to pay for their stupid-ass moves by importing their mistakes into my homeland? No.
"scapegoating xenophobia"
soemtimes:
xenophobia=common sense
So in your opinion common sense is bombing the hell out of people and when they run in all directions including yours then you complain? You're common but not particularly sensible.
Non-sequitur. The post to which you responded said nothing about bombing the hell out of people. And just how many illegal immigrants or refugees have you invited to stay with you or at least funded? You're being rather disingenuous.
The post to which I responded equated xenophobia with common sense. It's xenophobia which makes Americans believe that the evil Muslims should be bombed for their freedom which, of course, is the cause of the current crisis.
Show me where I said that anyone should take in refugees? My point has always been that Western governments have created this problem by overthrowing secular regimes, bombing innocents and funding terrorist armies. Anyone who hasn't spoken out about the real nature of the problem is part of the problem.
For what it's worth I've spent several thousand dollars supporting poor Palestinians and sent a few hundred to Vietnam Friendship Village which cares for victims of Agent Orange. When "my" government hurts people I try to make amends.
Billy, I invite you to scroll up and read Hedgless Horseman's post, which pretty much gets to the heart of the matter. I think most here understand WHY it happened and who is to blame.
I don't think Germans would be getting upset if it was a smaller number of refugees. Germans can be a very magnanimous people. They've certainly taken in their share of immigrants over the years. However, a sudden 1-million person influx creates huge problems socially, economically, culturally, etc. that anyone with a lick of common sense can see. In my mind I think they are right to be upset about that. And, even more to the point, the politicians are trying to shove this down their throats without even asking. Hopefully the Germans will take the time to ask how this problem got to this point and what they can do to help fix it so it works out better for everyone.
I read each of HH's posts above. In addition to the one you mentioned there's another where he's received over 120 downvotes.
I am not asking the Germans or anyone else to take in refugees. I object to the anti-Muslim tone of many commenters on this website because it was fear and hatred of Muslims which made it easy for Americans and their allies to create the conditions which have led to this refugee crisis.
For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.
Resent the tone all you want. ISLAM is the problem!
Thanks. You're exactly the evidence I needed to confirm my stated viewpoint. The Muslim haters have not only shown no remorse for the bombing of innocent people, the overthrow of secular governments and the creation of terrorist armies but they still refuse to understand that those actions created the current refugee crisis.
If Billy the Poet really had remorse for the bombing of innocent people, he'd invite some Muslims into HIS house and offer to support them with HIS money!!
You are correct in statement that Western actions (aggression for profit) creates problems - terrorist armies/refugees
however, Arabs have been terrorizing their own since before Mohamed. Western actions have just given them a different target. Christians in the middle ages weren't bothering the Muslims when they went all jihady and took over the middle east. The Answer to the Muslim aggression for profit was the Crusades - Western aggression for profit
Muslims now believe it is time to convert the world (by force if necessary) for profit
If you think these are "innocent people" invading Europe, then you haven't seen the pictures of them being 90% young men.
Finding a woman or child in that mess is like playing a perverse game of where's waldo. Good luck. Take your brainwashed die-versity and shove it up your a$$. Smart people are talking here so STFU and learn something.
What you NEED to spend money and time on are history books. Arabs have been enemies of everyone else....EVERYONE....for centuries. They have a religious ideology that commands them to take over other countries and force indigenous peoples to submit to Islam. Their goal is to take over the world and form a Caliphate. Their goal is to force conversion or destroy all who are Infidels. It is THESE GOALS that caused people to fight against them, nothing else.
@bunga
u say: This quotation about the concentration camps was taken out of context.
this is not true. go:
http://www.srf.ch/news/international/applaus-fuer-die-hetzer-von-pegida
it was NOT TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT.
they transcript (I confirm, heard several records of it):
"Es gäbe natürlich noch andere Alternativen. Aber die KZ sind ja derzeit leider ausser Betrieb".
use translator.
here news:
https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/pegida-dresden-127.html
go to 00:34 min
pegida protesters are stupid, cause the refugees are a symptom, not the root problem. helas, real zerohedgers know this.
stupid nazitrolls here. they like to have a rightwing movement, cause nazifollowers are super slaves.
Merkel muss weg.
So you refer to a single sentence taken out of a 30 minute speech and claim this is not taken out of context. How stupid is that?
I shudder that the borders aren't shuttered.
Yep, I'd say it's a healthy fear.
And I don't even begin to understand how people can be surprised at the rise of PEGIDA. Impose a muslim invasion and expect people to say nothing? They must be pretending. Or they're successfully adding up blindness, deafness and dumbassery. And as for the word on concentration camp, well if people have been shuttered and called nazis every time they had the presumptuousness of emitting a slight concern about immigration, sure it'll blow in your face at some point. It's outrageous because this totalitarian society dressed up as high moral democracy is infuriating.
Oh and btw: Hungary had around 0 migrant entry since they built their wall. Don't they say it doesn't work?
More immivasion news..
http://thosewhocansee.blogspot.jp/2015/10/crashing-gates-crash-course.html
If you're not alarmed, you're not paying attention.
It´s falling to near freezing temperatures at night now in most of Europe. Soon you´ll be seeing pictures of freezing women and children migrants on the tee vee...and the Germans will end up getting the blame. Then, I fear, the political class in Berlin will panic under the bad press, and then really end up doing something stupid. I have a feeling Merkel is going to double down, and then even triple down on her migrant policy to force her will. She thinks in macro terms, believes that Germany will benefit "in the long run" (demographics), and considers current conditions as temporary events that will work themselves out. The protests are mainly breaking out within eastern german cities, already known as right wing hot spots, and in her mind, still politically controllable.
She is taking a big gamble going all in right now, hoping that the german population as a whole will remain passive and suck it up. With the Great Reset lurking around the corner though, she may lose her entire stack very quickly. It is a very dangerous time.
Well, the Germans did work hand in hand with the Zionists before, during and after the war. And who has pulled the strings to get the West to destroy every secular regime in the Middle East? You know the answer.
My German ancestors came to America at the invitation of PPG just as Bismarck was getting his socialist groove on, thank goodness.
PS -- And I see that the anti-semites are downvoting the facts as told by True Torah Jews once again. Shame on you!
Zionism and Anti-SemitismZionism was supported by the German SS and Gestapo.[3] [4] [5] [6] Hitler himself personally supported Zionism.[7] [8] During the 1930's, in cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some 40 camps throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. As late as 1942 Zionists operated at least one of these officially authorized "Kibbutz" training camps[9] over which flew the blue and white banner which would one day be adopted as the national flag of "Israel".[10]
http://www.truetorahjews.org/antisemitism
Nazi Propaganda was Based on What Zionists Saidhttp://www.truetorahjews.org/naziismzionism
How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries, improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live.
"A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement, the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
Individual Muslims may show splendid qualities, but the influence of the religion paralyses the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science, the science against which it had vainly struggled, the civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome."
Guess who wrote that? Yes he knew them intimately. Read it twice, slowly
"Americans owe directly to the Saracens our southwestern and Californian architecture, our cotton industry, our asphalt paving, and a long list of such things as beds, table and bed linens, small occasional tables, strawberries, ice-cream. Americans speak Arabic when they say, mattress, sofa, cotton, talcum, sugar, coffee, sherbert, naphtha, gypsum, benzine. Our cars run, our streets are paved, our houses are furnished and our bodies clothed with things that the Saracens created.
The returning Crusaders brought back to Europe the first idea of a gentleman that Europeans had ever had. Until they invaded the Saracens' civilization, they had never known that a strong man need not be brutal. The Saracens were splendid fighters when they fought, but they were not cruel; they did not torture their prisoners, they did not kill the wounded. In their own country, they did not persecute the Christians. They were brave men, but they were gentle. They were honorable; they told the truth, they kept their word. This ideal of a gentleman especially impressed the English. It is still producing perhaps the finest class of human beings on earth today, the men and women of the British ruling class. It is an ideal that permeates all of American life. This is what surprises so many people in many parts of the world, when they see and meet the common American soldiers and sailors." -- from The Discovery of Freedom by Rose Wilder Lane (daughter of Laura Ingalls Wilder), American libertarian author.
http://mises.org/sites/default/files/The%20Discovery%20of%20Freedom_2.pdf
Of course about the Saracens, but this? "the finest class of human beings on earth today, the men and women of the British ruling class." What was Rose smoking?
She was a libertarian so it could have been anything.
macholatte says:
"Can’t the German people voice their desire to control immigration without being equated to Nazi gas chambers?"
Well, if you dont mention on a stage and in front of a few thousand cameras that you wish to solve the refugee problem with gaschambers, i think u can discuss the problem easyly without being equated to nazi gas chambers.
Lately, it has become an open question wether or not concentration camp = gas chamber. The case has bedn made that the "gas chambers" were added after the armistice.
Yep, complete with wooden doors. Holohoax.
Whatever you do, don't consult the Red Cross Data on Camp populations. Hint: there's not 6 million victims.
Interesting that phobia is defined as fear while xenophobia includes dislike in its definition.
"scapegoating xenophobia" from the article above. But Xenophobia is about being "unduly" fearful of foreigners.
Let me know when any, and I mean any, Islamic nation agrees to take in christian/secular refugees and I will try to believe the utter crap churned out by these false gods of media.
Everyday, inch by inch, straw by straw, western bleeding hearts destroy their societies by importing more social overhead from a religion that hates everything western; naturally, ascribing all western charity to the will of Allah.
The road to hell is still paved with good intentions.
K
The US attacks secular regimes which protect Christian citizens while the Israelis burn Christian churches and attack Palestinian Christians. Meanwhile Hezbollah protects Christian shrines in Syria (thanks to Freddie for some of these links). Why do you hate Christians so much?
Hezbollah protects Christian shrines in Syria
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=db7_1410145238
MUST WATCH! This is what courage and pride look like: a christian Pro Hezbollah Lebanese Singer Julia Butross in a concert of Honorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JElx0Eg2iZs
Arson attack guts part of Israel's Church of Loaves and FishesA verse from a Hebrew prayer denouncing the worship of "false gods" was spraypainted in red on a church wall, suggesting Jewish zealots were responsible.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/06/18/us-israel-church-fire-idUSKBN0...
Christians In Palestine – Yes, They Exist
Continuing plight of Palestinian Christians
Palestine's Christians - Christian Palestinians
Palestinian Christians Respond to Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren
Christians of the Holy LandMoslem nations accepting Christians? You can fly to Bangladesh tomorrow and probably stay there indefinitely.
"standing up for themselves"???
Wake me up when they drag Frau Ferkel and her entire cabinet out their statist palaces and feed them into a sausage grinder (more prevalent and environmentally friendly than wood chippers).
Members of her own party are pulling a pathetic CYA misdirection with political cover from the head of Pig Union... if they were serious they would simply push a no confidence vote and sack the Chancellor.
It's all political theater until elite heads start to roll.
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One might be left to wonder, due to the lack of specifics in the remarks, if the idea of reopening the camps would be intended for the muslims/arabs (who could just be deported) or for the traitors within who are bringing destruction upon Germany (who cannot just be deported so easily).
Ponder that a moment Herr Merkel.
It is sad that the Germans aren't protesting against the people that caused the war that created the refugees. You know, the same people with all the military bases in Germany, and all the German gold.
They do, but according to the mainstream media they are all Nazis.
Since the refugees (not migrants) were driven to Europe by the phoney U.S. War on Terror, house them at Ramstein and other NATO bases. Let Uncle Sugar's soldiers house, clothe and feed them. That will help keep NATO out of mischief for a while.
I'd be satisfied if the refugees were housed in the homes of Murky Merkel, the US CONgress, Senate, and White House members'. After all, as Paul Ryan (the beady-eyed man with two first names) says, "America is more than our borders."
So...let the immigrants into their multi-million dollar mansions. After all, being a public "servant," is more than enriching themselves at the public trough...right?
I can't hate the "elite" in the West any more than I do now, I can't possibly do it if I tried.
"So...let the immigrants into their multi-million dollar mansions."
Not a good idea--they would leave cigarette burns on the carpets (credit to Woody Allen).you are correct, H_H, but there is a small problem with them "protesting the people that caused the war that created the refugees"
German civilians can't do a fucking thing about the US rampaging across the middle east, but they CAN(or at least think they can) influence their own government to stop allowing a million syrian welfare seekers into the country. While I obviously disagree with the concentration camp references(why keep them in camps when you can just kick them out of your country) I can certainly understand why so many would be protesting this.
So why can't the German's influence their own government to kick out the 30,000 US troops and refuse to continue sanctions against the real enemy of ISIS, Russia?
Billy, you're being a real pain in the ass tonight.
Because I love my neighbor as myself?
You're doing fine Billy. Just one thing. There's way more than 30,000 US troops in Germany. When I was there, there were more than 400,000.
good question, and hopefully one day they will. But how would that help prevent he US from destroying the middle east? it wouldn't and the problem would still exist. Since the german population can't exert influence on the US govt warmongers, they are doing what they can- try to not absorb a million of these people a year into their welfare state. While I agree this is attacking a symptom of the problem rather than the problem itself, they are desperate, and they think thats the only thing they have to do.
I completely agree with you guys that focusing on the migrants misses the real point, the point is that this WILL continue to happen as long as the US keeps actively destabilizing the region. But from their point of view, can you REALLY blame them for not wanting to absorb a million plus people who are coming all the way to germany NOT because they fear for their lives, but becuase they are the land of the generous bennies? their lives havent been in danger since they left whatever country they are coming from.
good question, and hopefully one day they will. But how would that help prevent he US from destroying the middle east?
Germany is a NATO member. NATO supported Al Qaeda members as they overthrew Qaddafi and he DIA admits that the West funds ISIS. If Germany left the pro-terrorist team and supported or joined the anti-terrorist team them maybe the terrorists would find life a little more difficult and fewer refugees would be fleeing their rampage.
But from their point of view, can you REALLY blame them for not wanting to absorb a million plus people who are coming all the way to germany NOT because they fear for their lives, but becuase they are the land of the generous bennies? their lives havent been in danger since they left whatever country they are coming from.
So you're OK with refugees leaving the places where the West bombs them but once they leave that immediate vicinity they are safe and at that point should simply levitate somewhere, perhaps over the ocean?
Withdrawing support for the governments which created the crisis (the West, the Gulf States, Turkey and Israel) is the only solution.
"Withdrawing support for the governments which created the crisis (the West, the Gulf States, Turkey and Israel) is the only solution."
I know that, and I agree 100%, but I still wouldn't want to import a bunch of refugees in the mean time. I hope germany does what you describe. As an american, I would fucking LOVE IT if the US left NATO and the UN. But, since you and I and the average german protestors probably know this isn't likely, they are doing what they can to protect their culture and their country. this is the one place where they might have a chance on influencing policy in some way. I know its not perfect, but these people just want their neighborhoods to stay their neighborhoods. I don't blame them.
I know that, and I agree 100%, but I still wouldn't want to import a bunch of refugees in the mean time.
Neither would I but I refuse to join in the Muslim bashing which is in evidence here tonight. I'm an atheist but even I can understand the following:
Matthew 25
41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Im an atheist too, and this really isn't muslim bashing, at least from me. These people will NEVER assimilate into their host country, just like they haven't anywhere a large group of them has gone to. They will congregate in large groups, taking over parts of cities while the natives try to flee before their property value drops too much. Then, they will start to demand that the locals cater to them, their language and customs in school, their values, their way in everything. Western pussies will go along with it up to a point. They are third worlders who have no interest in bettering themselves, they seek the bennies, nothing more. Its just like trying to overcome the inner city black culture with some semblance of civilization. It just ain't gonna happen. Now, I am not justifying the US destroying their home country, and I sincerely wish we would stop doing so, but blaming the germans for not wanting them there is foolish.
How many are YOU willing to take in and care for, personally? Probably none. I know Im not. WHich means that its wrong for me to expect others to
I know that you're not bashing Muslims but plenty here are.
If I wanted to take in a Syrian family do you know how I could go about it? Google only gives me links to Catholic charities looking for donations.
I tried to find information, and made half-a-dozen telephone calls to do just that thing. Unfortunately, it appears impossible.
Peace.
you literally want to take in a syrian family into your home? wow. thats pretty damn generous of you, Ill give you that. I don't think its real smart, but to each his own
Yes!
We took in a stranger from New Orleans after Katrina. Clothed, housed, and fed him for a month. It was one of the best gifts we ever gave our children.
At his funeral this summer, I recounted a similiar story about my father's action when I was a child.
You bet. I will pay to fly a Syrian family to Texas, and care for them, if I can find a way.
I am paying for the bombs falling on their heads, so it is the least I can do.
Didn't think I could add more respect points to your account, but damn... keep on keepin' on the goodness HH. You are a man of true honor.
@HH,
What a refreshing & heart warming deed.
Especially after the outright nastiness displayed here lately by many dehumanized fight club members.
ANY of us could face a similar fate at any time.
A leader in words and action.
I was feeling kind of crappy about some of the attitudes expressed in the comments but you've more than made up for that.
I don't know you BP, but what you have written reeks of sanctimonious hypocricy. Is it bashing Muslims to be opposed to Salafists and jihadists who have been completely frank about their aim to impose Sharia law in European countries? Are you a big Anjem Choudary supporter? Are we just supposed to ignore the beheadings by takfiri wahabists? Do you know that there are ISIS fighters among the immigrants and that the immigration authorities are powerless to exclude them? Do you know that by far the majority of immigrants are not Syrian refugees fleeing a war zone, but opportunists from as far away as Pakistan or Nigeria falsly claiming to be Syrian refugees?
You quote Christ's words, but ignore the fact that Christians are being singled out for persecution in Muslim countries. They are having their heads cut off after watching their children be killed while your use of Christ's words in effect promotes the same behavior in Europe, whether you are conscious of it or not.
I feel for the real Syrians fleeing the war there, whether they are Muslim or Christian, but I would venture to say that these are a tiny minority of the immigrants. The facts that are being ignored by the propagandists of MSM would suggest that this is a giant scam. It's Europe's equivalent to 911.
Enjoy being a dhimmi and don't forget to save your money to pay the jihzia when your head comes out of the sand.
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Because Germany is still an occupied territory. Look, they can't even have their gold back. Geez
It is sad that the Germans aren't protesting against the people that caused the war that created the refugees.
The Arab Spring wasn't an "American-only" fiasco. Here are the members of the coalition that tossed Qudhafi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_military_intervention_in_Libya
Turkey has been a conduit for men and materials into the Syrian mess.
And please, don't try to blame it all on the Jews.
We're talking about the Middle East. Treachery and intrigue have been elements of the equation over there for a long, long time.
No one who is actually paying attention blames any of what's happening in the world on "the Jews."
We blame it on psychopathic, power-mad, goyim-hating Zionists.
HUUUUUGE difference, right there.
The Zionists are the ones trying to convince the world that all Jews are Zionist bigots. It's complete bullshit.
Plenty of people suffered similar fate. Chile, Vietnam, even China.
They're doing fine. No suicide bombing, no crying about their holy book and they don't try to impose their rules on their hosts.
Now why would that be?
Plenty of people suffered similar fate. Chile, Vietnam, even China.
Catholic Churches all over America took in Vietnamese refugees. Our parish housed one or two families in an underused convent house on the church property. They were every bit as well behaved as my community's Muslim residents.
Do they also gang rape locals like the muslims in Sweden?
Do they also gang rape locals like the US servicemen in Okinawa?
Gotta start somewhere...I never became a nationalist overnight. The growth in insight didn't happen overnight, it was a gradual series of events. Same with the German people--the invaders are the symptom, the World Manipulators are the disease. Treat the symptoms, stabilize the patient, then excise the disease.
If the globalist bankers weren't so intent on creating terrorist organizations to overthrow peaceful countries (usually with oil) there wouldn't be any refugee problem to begin with. (Iraq, Libya, Syria...)
March on Frankfurt or London if you want to end your nations problems...
Burn the BIS
Let's not forget the Group of Thirty....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Group_of_Thirty
The Group of Thirty was founded in 1978 by Geoffrey Bell at the initiative of the Rockefeller Foundation,[1] which also provided initial funding for the body. Its first chairman was Johannes Witteveen, the former managing director of the International Monetary Fund. The G30's current Chairman is Jean-Claude Trichet.[2] Its current Chairman of the Board of Trustees is Jacob Frenkel, and Paul Volcker is Chairman Emeritus.
Yep... that's a real nest of globalist vipers...
I told you several months ago that it is 1933 all over again.
Weimar World
Roger Waters needs to brush up on his revisionist history along with a few other people here, or I shall start screaming "Racist anti-Germanite". Well whats good for the gooose...
But, don't you see, only white people can be racists.
So, no that won't work.
The only good white person is one the bows to Islam or gets its head chopped off.
The First Holocaust
Jewish Fund Raising Campaigns
With Holocaust Claims
During And After World War One(WWI)
http://vho.org/GB/Books/tfh
Six Million Jews 1915-1938
(15min mark) New York Times, 1921 "6 Million Jews Face Extermination By Massacre"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk
Eisenhower, Churchill, de Gaulle"Three of the best known works on the Second World War are General Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe (New York: Doubleday [Country Life Press], 1948), Winston Churchill's The Second World War (London: Cassell, 6 vols., 1948-1954), and the Mémoires de guerre of General de Gaulle (Paris: Plon, 3 vols., 1954-1959). In these three works not the least mention of Nazi gas chambers is to be found."
"Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; the six volumes of Churchill's Second World War total 4,448 pages; and de Gaulle's three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages. In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi "gas chambers," a "genocide" of the Jews, or of "six million" Jewish victims of the war."
David Cole/Stein(Jewish) Deconstructs The Jewish Holocaust Narrative
http://www.holocausthandbooks.com/index.php?page_id=1004
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGbod58kAxI
Treblinka Narrative Falsified
https://archive.org/details/Treblinka_Archaeology_Hoax
Wow... I'm reading here that 6 million Jews also disappeared during WWI...
https://inpursuitofhappiness.wordpress.com/2011/04/19/the-first-holocaust/
Apparently the 6 million number holds some kind of special meaning in Jewish scripture...
[Quote 1] Jewish prophecies in the Torah require that 6 million Jews must “vanish” before the state of Israel can be formed. “You shall return minus 6 million.” That’s why Tom Segev, an Israeli historian, declared that the “6 million” is an attempt to transform the Holocaust story into state religion.
Yup,
They've said it 3 times in a row.
I never heard the term 'holocaust' until the 1970s.
i suggest something contemporary:
all them witches with "DIRT PREACHERS"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1szYMvWj9QE
Humans are still basically tribal and xenophobic. It's the way it is all over the world but in "white "majority countries it's being a Nazi. The hubris of the Swedes and Germans thinking they will assimilate these refugees reminds me of us superior Americans knowing we could do better than the French in Vietnam.
Look at what's going on in Spain for example. The Catalonians and Basque people have been in Spain since the country has existed but neither has completely assimilated and many want out of Spain and they are all Christians. Good luck with Muslim North Africans.
Roger's an a-hole. Bitterness is what he sows.
human assions and emotions, stirred into activity
assions ?? a French village, what the.....?
@hedgeless_horseman
“When men’s hearts are breaking and their souls are plunged into the depths of despair, their great forebears turn their eyes towards them from the dim shadows of the past – those forebears who knew how to triumph over anxiety and affliction, mental servitude and physical bondage – and extend their eternal hands in a gesture of encouragement to despairing souls. Woe to the nation that is ashamed to clasp those hands.”
-- Chapter 12, Book I, Mein Kampf
Welfare Wave Surges into Sweden
By Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.
October 20, 2015
Taxes increased on Swedes to pay for importing foreign welfarians who cause a crime crisis.
By the looks of the posters they really hate Space Ghost, I loved that cartoon man.
Ein Reich, Ein Volk?
The shame of this continent.
Try Afrika, I am sure it will be more to your liking
The shame is on you! An able bodied male not standing up to protect your own from these marauders. How many rapes, robberies, and murders will it take to open your eyes?
How is a nazi slogan connected to current situation? Eirik Magnus Larssen pointed out that nazism and Adolf Hitler were the shame of Europe, which is true.
Nazism was a product of banksterism.
Banksterism is the shame of the entire planet.
Hitler was a banker? He used the bankers and they used him. For a while.
Oh, the irony! Marx-Larsson and Hitler are both SOCIALISTS! And yes, socialism is the shame of Europe. Also, he is all in with multi-culturalism and therefore supports this unbridled invasion which will obviously destroy these countries if not stopped immediately.
You are talking bankers right?
No we are speaking of their proxy army, the muslim invaders. Both are culpable. Banksters are not making these "immigrants" rape, pillage, plunder, and murder. They are doing that of their own volition.
If they start cutting some heads off you can be pretty sure that the ISIS chickens have come home to roost.
Maybe Israel can take a couple hundred thousand...
Sorry,Swedie.. we can't all be the perfect humanists as you Swedes are.
Can we send ALL the invasionists to Sweden please?
That's better than "Allahu Akhbar!" followed by a slow-beheading at the hands of a bearded fanatic using a glorified butterknife to do the deed.
Gotta admit, he had a lot of supporters.
Didn't turn out too well, but a lotsa people stood behind him ... before the terror began
Don't forget: Inside every Progressive is a Tyrant trying to get out.
Oh yes, that's right. Adolph and his kin down through the ages, hailed from the left of center platform.
Adolf
not
Adolph
I thought it was Rudolf not Rudolph (rednosed in rain gear).
rain gear or riot gear? Well, either way it seems that the world is screaming for a third world war (that isn't the third, more like the 7th or so...they that win write history so i guess it will be III)
Can you imagine how it must have felt being in that crowd... and having the runs...
the runs came latter.
80 million "wealthy" Christain Germans...~2 Million "non-German" and "non-Christian" POOR immigrants from VIOLENT WAR TORN NATIONS...and all of this into a DECLINING world economy...
What could possibly go wrong?
I guess it depends on your view. Considering that the "planners" seem to want it to go wrong, it is right in their minds. Brace for impact.
2 million? There are 8 million Turk Muslims in Germany already.
And what goes wrong? They brutalize the weak European sheep on the streets every day across the nation. This is nothing short of a sacking. Europe is being sacked by an invading horde of Muslims. Complete with mass rape across the continent.
POOR immigrants from VIOLENT WAR TORN NATIONS...
If I'm supposed to feel pity for the Islams it's not going to happen. They got the governments they deserve as we have ours. Everyone must lie in the bed they made.
cmg - let's go bomb your house and see if you run away with your family and whatever you can carry.
Don't let their politicians support bankster wars in the ME, and maybe rufugees won't flee those countries ?
Wonder if any of those Germans thought of that ?
All wars are bankster wars - and thus all war refugees . . . . .
...and it took almost the entire world to bring them down, and they didn't go down quietly.
Germans ain't nobody's punk. Murky Merkel will find that out.
After WWII there were Germans kicked out of Poland, Poles of out Soviet Union (Ukraine), Ukrainians out of Poland.
Millions were moved. Yes it has been done before.