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Trump: Bush Had “Advanced Notice” of 9/11
Donald Trump says that George W. Bush knew 9/11 was coming and had "advanced knowledge" of the attack, but he failed to stop it:
He's right ...
Overwhelming evidence shows that 9/11 was foreseeable. Indeed, Al Qaeda crashing planes into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon was itself foreseeable. Even the chair of the 9/11 Commission said that the attack was preventable.
A top NSA whistleblower says that the NSA had all of the information it needed prior to 9/11 to stop the attacks. The only reason NSA didn't share that information with other agencies is because of corruption ... in an effort to consolidate power.
In reality, widespread spying by the U.S. government on Americans began before 9/11 (confirmed here, here, here, here, here, here, here and here). And the government tapped the 9/11 hijackers’ phones, and heard the 9/11 hijackers’ plans from their own mouths.
Why didn't this stop the terror attacks?
Top security experts agree that mass surveillance is actually ineffective … and actually makes us more vulnerable to terrorism, because it distracts people and resources from tried-and-trued counter-terrorism efforts which are effective and actually work.
For example, the former head of global intelligence for the NSA – Bill Binney – says that the mass surveillance INTERFERES with the government’s ability to catch bad guys, and that the government failed to stop the Boston Bombing because it was overwhelmed with data from mass surveillance on Americans. And see this.
Binney says government officials and contractors actually don't want to solve the terrorism problem ... Because once they solve it, they don't have the "problem" to use as a basic justification to get more money (note ... the video clips below are very brief clips which are well worth watching):
Binney says "the primary reason [the government is spying on everyone] is for money and building an empire". But that - by pulling in information on all Americans - it's making us more vulnerable to terrorism:
And he says that it would be easy to audit the intelligence community to avoid corruption, fraud and waste ... but intelligence managers don't want any oversight:
It's not just Binney ... high-level NSA whistleblower Thomas Drake (and see this), NSA whistleblower Russell Tice, very high-level congressional committee security staffer Diane Roark and Edward Snowden all say that mass surveillance within the U.S. is a corrupt power grab ... not an effort aimed at stopping terrorism.
Postscript: The question of whether or not 9/11 was a false flag is beyond the scope of this post.
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You're a dumbass, the building had multi-story FLOORS beneath GROUND LEVEL, the "crater" was excavated in order to build the damned thing.
Now picture (in whats left of your brain) a multi-story dock on the water (the floors supported by pins/bolts to the columns/pillars) embedded into the sea floor.
The weight is carried by the integrity of the columns NOT THE FLOORS BELOW. The floors (the decks) collapse onto each other stressing the pins/bolts (which snap, too much weight) leaving the columns untethered from the floors.
I can't help you're a dumbass.
NMEWN; YOU ARE AN IDIOT
WTC 7 WAS LESS THAN HALF AS TALL AS WTC 1 AND IT HAD A PROPORTIONATELY DEEPER 40 FOOT BASEMENT THAN WTC 1 (WTC 1 HAD A 60 FEET DEEP BASEMENT BUT WTC 1 WAS MORE THAN TWICE AS TALL AS WTC 7); YET WTC 7's RUBBLE PILE WAS OVER 60 FEET TALL ABOVE STREET LEVEL AT THE CENTER!!! pause at 41 seconds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2L_lu8ocLM
Yet the WTC 1 was nearly 1400 feet tall and it's basement was 60 feet deep but the center of the rubble is not 60 feet above the street (as WTC 7) but ZERO FEET ABOVE THE STREET!!!!!! And the shape of the rubble pile is a crater! So why didnt' this crater catch any falling WTC 1 debris and get filled in? Answer; because the debris was blown out laterally
It doesn't matter how WTC 1 collapsed or what hit it; this is statistical mechanics not dynamics here. A narrow tall, bulding collapsing on itself DOES NOT AND CANNOT FORM A CRATER. Pile up sticks, legos, logs, whatever and let it collapse by gravity centrally by the floors giving way and falling down; the result is a central pileup. It cannot be anything else. QED
mmwen you are an idiot. You are talking jibberish.
Have you heard of the solid cement core mast of the WTC 1 and 1 towers? It was built within the 47 innner core columns; this cement mast ran 1200 feet up through the tower; all tall buldings above a certain height need it or the long vertical steel columns will twist; the Empire state has masonry on the outside to prevent the long columns from twising and the WTC 1 and 2 had it on the inside as does the Sears tower. This huge amount of concrete just vanished!!!! It should have been dropped dead center onto the rubble pile but like I said, if you pause this at 1:17, you see that the center of WTC 1 rubble is at street level. All that is left of this reinforced concrete center mast is a solitary steel pole sticking up from the center of the debris and the bottom of this pole is at street level. The concrete in the mast didn't fall on the footprint. WTC 1 had it's greatest density at the center of each floor and when the building collapsed there should have been this great amounf of centrally located material falling in the center. But it's not to be seen, only a crater!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPJUP-Ry7d0
How many Cubic Yards of concrete did it take to construct the WTC Towers?
How much empty volume, measured in Cubic Yards, do the underground cavities have?
Is the volume of the underground cavity much greater than the volume of concrete used to construct the buildings?
What is the Center of Gravity?
What is the Center of Pressure?
What do the relation of the positions of the Center of Gravity and Center of Pressure have to do with the STABILITY of a Skyscraper?
Have you ever signed up for AEfor911Truth?
Are you a Physicist?
Have you ever taught Physics?
Are you an Engineer?
How good are your Math Skills?
Have you ever worked in the Structural Steel Industry?
Have you ever had some A36 in your hand?
What is a Gusset Plate?
What is a Butt Weld?
An "I" Beam? A "C" Beam? A "T" Beam? When are they used and why?
So just why did you downarrow nmewn's post that Skyscapers are designed and built like Pyramids?
(THEY ARE. And you are just too damned ignorant to understand the significamce of that as it is the basis of the entire argument for a controlled demolition.)
So...Determine the infinite sunmmation of the product of Momentum and infinitesimal changes in velocity over a defined set of boundaries, a partition, from oh...lets say, vi to v, and then get back with me.
Because if you do not understand how to do that trick then you will never really understand just what happened on 9-11 and why it had to be a controlled demoition. There just was not enough of that, by itself, to have wreaked that type of damage.
And SINCE you do not know how to do that...YOU FLUNKED OUT..
And anyone with the clue...DO NOT HELP HIM OUT. He stands alone in this fight.
What are you some kind of backup IDIOT TROLL TO URBAN? When buildings collapse, they don't fall into a compact pile with zero air spaces betweent the chunks; no they collapse into a pile of debris that is about 1 foot per floor as seen in HUNDREDS OF DEMOLITIONS OF HIGH RISES.
THE BASEMENTS ARE PROPORTIONATELY THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE BUILDINGS SO THIS IS ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR.
Now DIPSHIT, YOU DO THE MATH;, WTC 1 HAD OVER 100 FLOORS, THEREFORE THE RUBBLE PILE SHOULD BE ABOUT 100 FEET TALL.
WTC 7 HAD A 40 FOOT DEEP BASEMENT BUT WAS LESS THAN TWICE AS TALL AS WTC 1; WTC 1 HAD A 60 FEET DEEP BASEMENT (THE DEPTH OF THE BATHTUB WAS 60 FEET) BUT WAS MORE THAN TWICE AS TALL (ACTUALY MORE LIKE 2 AND 1/2 TIMES) AS TALL AS WTC 7.
Yet when WTC 1 collapsed, the rubble is a crater appaerance and the center is at SIDEWALK HEIGHT!!!! ZERO FEET TALL....
This can only happen if NEARLY ALL the building material was blown out laterally
PAUSE THIS VIDEO AT 1:17 SECONDS TO SEE THE CRATER THAT WTC 1 TURNED INTO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPJUP-Ry7d0
QED
Nope...Not in this case.
Answer my questions.
Oh I know that it was a intentional Thermite Implosion. Of that I have no doubt.
In fact the FLAW in your description is that YOU DO NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT for the TOTAL PULVERIZATION of the material during the collapse.
IN WHAT OTHER DEMOLITION have you ever witnessed that?
So answer my questions...
You are not thinking beyond your nose.
Tall Tom; examining the rubble shape allows us to determine whether energy other than that from gravitational forces was involved. The WTC 1 building material, the majority of the 700K tons that comprised it, was blown out laterally. The total pulverization that occured is not germane to the question of whether explosives were used or not, though it is germane to the queston of how much explosive energy was needed (lots was needed because the concrete was pulverized)
not only that but if the top part falling onto the bottom part could possibly break up the bottom part (dubious) it would fall slowly with huge pieces falling off to the side, not neatly into a pile of pulverized rubble.
the searchers didn't find a toilet seat.
they didn't find a door knob.
NMEWN, watch some vidoes of the destruction of WTC 1 and 2, thinking dustification. Dust off your thinking, if you have a mind to, then dustify your bowling ball on the way down. How much of a crater would you NOW expect to display?
If I were using something of less weight & mass to attain the desired height and made it lightweight modular/skeleton (as opposed to a proven mass pyramid bottom) why, on the down the mass would prevent total collapse wouldn't it? Say, kinda like the ground around my house is not hollow inside, it also doesn't have nine floors in the basement that leaves one helluva crater before the bowling ball hit's the bedrock (the mass).
Dust that off..."Professor" ;-)
>it also doesn't have nine floors in the basement
They so readily forget that everytime they make these arguments. You swear you mention 9/11 and every conspiracy theorist climbs out from under his rock to state this or that could never have happened the way it did. I remember the last go around on this topic we even had some claiming nuclear weapons were used.
Standard Disclaimer: There are day some people need to have common sense beaten into them.
Mini-nukes were used, stored at the now radioactive Israeli embassy to the UN before the Mossad mechanics set them off prior to their being arrested near the WTC on 9/11 and deported.
Only a Hasbarah troll, a papist traitor, or a blithering conformed moron says otherwise.
http://www.academia.edu/8679047/9-11_An_Analysis_of_the_US_Geological_Su...
9/11 doesn't appear to be your strong subject.
Not sure why you would believe the preposterous US govt bullshit narrative, which has been thoroughly discredited.
same reason the urban redneck does, they love israel to the point of unreason.
Are you really that fucking stupid? Or is your defintion of hasbara as whack as Vizzini's defintion of inconceivable?
Seriously, how many of those mighty hasbara agents that set off your inferiority complex so badly tell the Palestinians how to make Bibi switch off Iron Dome himself?
Google can help you find the original dates of all these posts going back years.
It's worse than that. They IDF had the call recording with both the fatal gunshots and someone claiming to have killed the three teens - SINCE THE NIGHT THEY "DISAPPEARED".
Sending troops and rounding up several hundred of "the usual suspects" was never about locating hostages or perpetrators. Every single idiot on TV or the interwebz claiming otherwise is a) a LIAR or b) a USEFUL IDIOT, there is no option c.
Bibi wanted an escalation, and he got it. Who provided the PM the escalation and the full extent of his or her relations and coordination with the IDF and its appendagesisn't something Israel likes to discuss... I wonder why...
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They kidnapped a DUAL CITIZEN.
They word choice of the Zio-rag ynetnews is intellectually "problematic".
If a dual US-Canadian citizen were kidnapped in the US, in the US press- the victim would be refered to as an AMERICAN, and in the Canadian press- the victim would be referred to as a CANADIAN.
There is no legitimate reason to refer to an Israeli citizen as an AMERICAN in the Israeli press.
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Look you dumb ass LYING Israeli disinformation agent:
1) Citing HuffPo (a US rag) referring to the victim as an American doesn't even counter my point (since I'm not busting on Huffpo's crappy ideological cock smoking today, unless for some bizzare you are trying to prove the intellectual dishonesty of the Israeli press, as Huffpo could be expected to bite and regurgiate to American sheeple without firing a single synapse)
2) The Israeli article DOES NOT mention a Taliban exchange, in fact specifically mentions an ISRAELI EXCHANGE.
Go blow Bibi and peddle your disinformation elsewhere. Come back when your IQ is at least above room temperature.
Here is the entire text of the article, there is not one mention of Taliban, perhaps they are running a different text version in Tel Aviv.
US citizen among missing teens in suspected West Bank kidnapping
Senior security officials have informed US Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro that one of three teenagers missing in the West Bank has American citizenship. The ambassador was notified after defense officials met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Tel Aviv on Friday to discuss the security situation in light of the possible abduction.
The three youths, all aged between 17 and 19 and all yeshiva students, disappeared late Thursday night between Kfar Etzion and the settlement Alon Shvut, southwest of Jerusalem.
The Shin Bet and the IDF's Central Command are treating the teens' disappearance as a terrorist kidnapping, given that, among other things, their cell phones stopped broadcasting GPS signals from the location where they were last seen.
Security forces have been scanning the Bethlehem and Hebron areas, while police were checking a link between a burnt-out car that was discovered near Hebron and the disappearance of the teens. Large numbers of security forces were also searching open areas in Gush Etzion - on foot, by car and using advances observation devices.
Palestinian news agency Ma'an reported that IDF troops were combing southern Hebron. According to the report, the army set up roadblocks in various locations, and IDF forces raided some houses and made several arrests. At the same time, Israeli drones were reportedly seen flying over the southern part of the Hebron Hills. The IDF has also confirmed that unmanned aerial vehicles have been deployed in the search.
Meanwhile, roadblocks were set up on southern Israeli highways in order to prevent the potential transfer of the youths to Gaza, which would greatly complicate any possible rescue attempt, either military or political.
The IDF was looking into whether the teens tried to hitch a ride in the Etzion area, not far from the Gush Etzion junction, an area where many settlers hitchhike, despite army warnings and repeated alerts on terror organizations planning to commit a kidnapping.
In recent weeks, the Shin Bet uncovered several attempts by terror cells to kidnap Israeli soldiers or civilians in order to use them as a bargaining chip to secure the release of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails.
Israel has blamed the reconciliation between Palestinian factions Hamas and Fatah for the suspected kidnap.
"This event is a direct continuation of escalation in Judea and Samaria since Abu Mazen (Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas) allowed the terrorist organization Hamas to join the Palestinian government," a senior source said after the meeting with Netanyahu on Friday.
The IDF has asked the public not to believe rumors the IDF had broke into a home and rescued two of the teens, a claim that the spokesman denied.
"I'm asking everyone to behave responsibly. There's no significance to rumors that have been spreading," said an IDF spokesperson.
IDF Chief of Staff Benny Gantz has instructed all relevant army units, including a unit dealing with hostage situations, to raise their level of alert and prepare for any scenario.
"The goal is to figure out what happened before they disappeared, to investigate our way backwards. So far, we haven't found any items belonging to the two out on the field," a senior army source said.
He added that the search was now focusing on the intelligence front, and that the IDF, Police and Shin Bet were holding a situation evaluation every few hours.
A relative of one of the missing teens said the families were being updated by the IDF and police about the disappearance.
"He just disappeared, never made it home," the relative said. "His parents are worried, praying, hoping for the best. We're all praying this incident ends in a good way."
The spokesman for a settlement in which one of the missing teens resides said that his father had reported him missing during the night when he failed to return home and didn't answer his phone. At the same time, family members began searching for the teen at his friends' houses.
"At 8 am we got texts. We were asked if we knew where the boy was and to wake up our children to see if he was staying over at one of the homes," the spokesman said.
At first the family members thought the teen had just forgotten his keys and went to sleep at a friend's house, as he had done before.
"As soon as we realized he was nowhere to be found, the atmosphere in the settlement became very grave. People were hiding in their homes... we opened an operations room to provide residents with information, and organized a mass prayer and read from the Book of Songs so this incident ends on a good side," the spokesman continued.
The spokesman added that yeshiva students often make the journey from Alon Shvut to the Gush Etzion junction and from there to Jerusalem, and onto the settlement via Shiloh junction.
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No. Hamas cannot destroy Israel. The GENOCIDAL WAR CRIME that Netanyahu and EVERY member of the IDF is guilty of is conflating Hamas with the Palestinian population of Gaza. Arguing that crimes against Palestinian civilians are justified is bullshit. Even when the US is mowing down Iraqi, Afghani, or even Nazi German civilians in a full on combat, there are limits of both acceptable and legal collateral damage. No one (outside of a few Israphile neocons) would argue otherwise.
Simply reverse their twisted illogic. Would it acceptable to kill every last Jew in Palestine in order to destroy such genocidal maniacs as Bibi Netanyahu and Ayelet Shaked? When has Bibi ever come out and publicly said that Hamas is justified in lobbing unguided rockets at Israel, much less in targeting Israeli civilians?
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No, let's not construct strawmen in an attempt to bury your error by changing the subject.
As you have quite explicitly stated, over and over again:
"Infrastructure IS NOT EQUAL TO people, therefore the Dahiya doctrine IS NOT genocide."
THIS IS INCORRECT.
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Iron Dome interceptors use a high explosive fragmentation warhead with a proximity fuse to destroy incoming rockets at altitude and (just) outside of population centers before those rockets can drop into populated areas and their high explosive warheads detonate on impact in that populated area. This only works great as long destroying the rocket in midair causes less damage than letting it impact the ground. The strategy is as old as Sun Tsu and the technology is even more ancient than the rockets Hamas is currently fielding, and it doesn't require any more knowledge, skill, or research than a few STEM undergrads can crank out in short order. I didn't mention the "coincidentally" named Crimean Fever in another thread today just because a crazy white Canadian can pick it up from the local bush meat and bring it to the lower 48, but also because it was one of the earliest (and simplest) biological weapons of the modern era.
The fanatics on both sides of this dispute seem to be under the misconception that there is some other long term option than making peace and finding a way to live side by side, where they "win". Whether the tactics are high tech or low tech, high $ cost or low $ cost, high human cost or low human cost is somewhat beside the point when the strategy is a losing one.
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Your use of the reply button confounds me...
As does your implication that Ashkenazi Jews not being descended of the 12 tribes of Israel proves that they are of Khazarian descent (or are you just copying and pasting Elhaik's jumping of the shark and conflatiion of the Caucasus andKhazaria?)
The joke about Hasdai in my other post actually had a serious point, given the number of truely dumb ass bigots who often post here that seem to believe that because at least six million jews were not gassed in Nazi gas chambers that Holocaust was a hoax, you would think that because Hasdai was writing fiction a thousand years ago, more of them would realize how much of themythology of the Kingdom of Khazaria is based on an actual hoax.
Then, of course, there are those dumb ass Jews at Forward Magazine who came up with this piece of land grabbing and ego boosting historical fiction.
If we could just get rid of the stupid people and the dishonest people, or at least the stupid and dishonest people... (oh, wait, I've heard that before...)
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Get into the oven you little genocidal nut, and take your family too, since they must be guilty as well.
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I ought to pull your ip adress, drag your ass into court for advocating genocide and take every last dime you have, and then make your kids watch as I spend their college fund educating Palestinian kids while living in what used to be your house.
A proper Jewish solution to the zionist cancer infecting the human population.
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It's not like the Israeli's couldn't expand the expand the buffer zone in the other direction, if that actually was their concern... These genocidal maniacs and their supporters need to be stopped and punished. Forced labor rebuilding that which they have destroyed and loss of territory would an appropriate punishment based on the precedent of the Yalta conference.
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Because the person who wields Israel's veto at the UN Security Council works for John Kerry...
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/839137-who-uses-veto-in-un-security-coun...
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Centuries of inbreeding is apparently having severely negative consequences on the IDF's intellectual capacity, to the point engineered inferiority can't be covered up by education any longer...
Days ago, we warned civilians in Shuja'iya to evacuate. Hamas ordered them to stay. Hamas put them in the line of fire.
— IDF
Decades ago, we warned civilians in Israhole to evacuate. Zionists ordered them to stay. Zionists put them in the line of fire.
— Hamas
We told the fuckers to leave before we started shooting up the place, they didn't... so it's not our fault they died... Only in the mind of a lunatic is that acceptable justification.
Just in case someone actually finds that acceptable...
Barry, get your ass out of the White House...
It's a huge problem in Japan too. People need to get over their hangups and breed more diversity into the population (it's not like it isn't fun). But the whole Jews (or Aryans) are smarter because of their pure blood meme is utter BS.
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Talk about walking around with your head up your ass for three quarters of a century. I thought Hitler killed all the retards along with all those other groups that he came for, before liars carved deliberate distortions of Niemöller's into stone for propaganda purposes. Germany passed laws outlawing speech, books, and even lines of thought, and Germany is worse than France regard to this sort of sanctioned fascist behavior. Captain Louis Renault must be Shocked! Or to CTRL-C/CTRL-P from when they were Shocked! in Paris.
The problem is that smart Jews, just like smart Muslims, or smart Christians- are the exception to the rule, individually, never mind collectively. When the legitimate and very minimal constraints on the freedom of speech and expression are extended to the suppression and criminalization of thought, the die is cast. The rise of any counter-culture begins with those who actually do have extremist views (by definition) and the young, who are more inclined to rebel against the imposition of authority. As the establishment continues to brush problematic thoughts under the carpet, and refuses to address and explore issues and engage critics, rational people begin to publicly ask questions and their alienation and the continuation of foolish policies will transform a mountain of dust into an 800lb gorilla.
As to the gorilla's actual size (a 400lb mountain gorilla could rip every hasbararat in France limb from limb)
"As soon as you talk about Israel, it crystallizes all passions, with up to 20,000 or 30,000 comments sometimes after an article, of which we will only let 5% to 10% through," explained David Corchia, head of an online moderation company of which both Le Figaro and Liberation (French news publications) are clients.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4549369,00.html
And this situation is certainly not helped by educated articulate Jews who are so stupid that they are incapable from pulling their head out of the asses, and conflate the problem and solution or cause and effect (or their baffoon enablers like Socialist do-gooder Président Stupid Face).
This panicked idiocy ignores the facts. In France, as elsewhere in Europe, at least in Western Europe, anti-Semitism is a crime punishable by law. The political establishment unanimously rejects it, as do the press, social actors and most of the public. There was a time when anti-Semitism was a significant political and cultural force. It is no longer.
http://www.i24news.tv/en/opinion/37701-140720-are-europe-and-its-jews-he...
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Actually it is slightly more complicated than that, and the hasbarats would hardly call me friendly to their cause...
https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/middle-east/10858-palestine-accep...
http://cjicl.org.uk/2012/11/29/the-status-of-palestine-at-the-general-as...
http://www.law.nyu.edu/news/REISMAN_MICHAEL_LECTURE
Your're welcome.
In that case... with regards to ICC & ICJ- the Palestinian Authority has no standing to bring any action before either body. Hence the perennial debate about Palestinian Membership in the UN. There is only one avenue of legal intervention open to them - the UN Security Council, where they have already applied, but "it's complicated" (see video at second link below).
(ICC)
One of these conditions was a pledge by the Palestinian leadership that it would not seek the prosecution of Israeli officials before the ICC for alleged war crimes arising out of Israeli actions in Gaza in 2008/9. This possibility posed a concern for other UN Member States as well. Article 125(3) of the Rome Statute provides that “[t]his Statute shall be open to accession by all States. Instruments of accession shall be deposited with the Secretary-General of the United Nations.” It does not restrict accession to UN Member States, to parties to the Statute of the International Court of Justice, or to members of any other UN agency. Palestine need not, according to this provision, be a UN Member State in order to accede to the Rome Statute, so long as it is a “State” within the meaning of Article 125. The term “State” within that provision must take its meaning from general international law. Only an entity that fulfills the accepted legal and factual conditions for statehood in general international law can be considered a “State”. This became clear in the context of a declaration made by the government of Palestine in April 2012 under Article 12(3) of the Rome Statute. Article 12(3) provides that a “State may, by declaration lodged with the Registrar, accept the exercise of jurisdiction by the Court with respect to the crime in question”. The Office of the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court declined Palestine’s declaration on the basis that only a “State” was legally entitled to make such a declaration.
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Another concern for UN Member States has been the possibility that Palestine may, if accepted by the General Assembly as a non-Member State Observer, initiate proceedings before the International Court of Justice. The Statute of the ICJ is annexed to the Charter and forms part of it. According to Article 93(1) of the Statute, “[a]ll Members of the United Nations are ipso facto parties to the Statute of the International Court of Justice.” According to Article 34(1) of the ICJ Statute, “[o]nly states may be parties in cases before the Court.” Article 35(1) provides conclusively to this effect that “[t]he Court shall be open to the states parties to the present Statute.” Article 93(2) of the Charter provides that “[a] state which is not a Member of the United Nations may become a party to the Statute of the International Court of Justice on conditions to be determined in each case by the General Assembly upon the recommendation of the Security Council.” Currently there are no States parties to the Statute that are not also UN Member States. There are also no States not party to the Statute that may be entitled to bring proceedings before the Court. Japan, Liechtenstein, San Marino and Switzerland became parties to the ICJ Statute before becoming UN Member States. Further, Nauru became a party to the ICJ Statute in 1988, and a UN Member State in 1989. It has been the practice that the government of such a State must issue a declaration accepting the conditions determined by the General Assembly upon recommendation by the Council, and deposit it with the Secretary-General. A recommendation by the Security Council, acceptance of this recommendation by the General Assembly and acceptance of the determined conditions by Palestine would consequently be necessary in order for Palestine to become a party to the ICJ Statute. This process consequently differs little from the acceptance of a State as a full UN Member State. In light of Palestine’s failure to obtain a Security Council recommendation for full UN membership last year, it currently seems unlikely that it could muster the support necessary for a recommendation to become a party to the ICJ Statute. Notice further that in all previous cases a State’s becoming a party to the ICJ Statute was followed by full UN membership. This is a circumstance that the governments of other UN Member States would likely bear in mind.
http://cjicl.org.uk/2012/11/29/the-status-of-palestine-at-the-general-as...
If you have an hour, the video below is well worth the time. It's not specific to genocide, but rather the reality and complexity of international intervention under law. It provides a realistic perspective that you are not going to find on a fringe blog, the academic language and tenor is a bit different than that which one encounters in Foreign Ministries and military planning, but the underlying considerations are the same, and Michael has been there. In addition, it is useful for delineating the actual schisms between the isolationists, the traditional dichotomy encompassing moderate professionals, and the rabid imperial interventionists (regardless of whether neocon/neolib). The speaker (other than being a brilliant lawyer, scholar, human rights advocate, and the [Jewish] President of Tribunal that expelled the private shareholders from BIS) is actually (in an MSM false dichotomy way) a bleeding heart liberal do-gooder, and yet he both shoots down neocon Rob's question in the Q&A, and his high threshold for intervention is at least as reasoned as Ron Paul's. And please do not assume that his views are my views, as we have serious differences of opinion (such as which would have been wiser 3.5 years ago Libya or Syria) which three years later, we will have to debate again next time our paths cross at a civilized watering hole.
http://www.law.nyu.edu/news/REISMAN_MICHAEL_LECTURE
and applied to Ukraine it is prophetic
Parts and Accessories, Coordinates, Troubleshooting, and Looting.
Suds Away Your Dirty Laudry, Bubbles Wish & Wash, It's Yours.
Actually it is that they hate Israel to the point of unreason.
While I am not a Zionist and I have a hatred for any unecessary bloodshed, and any WAR, I also know that there are factions within the Israeli Government that are antizionist and that there is not a total and absolute unity amongst the Jewish people in support of the atrocities committed against ANYBODY.
In fact there are Jewish Organizations in America who are against what is happening.
It is the same mentality as thinking that since I am an American that I must support the Neocon Policies of the Obama Government...which anybody who has ever read what I have published knows that I find that abhorrent.
It is an unreasonable overgeneralization....
Excellent comment. Also google 'The Talented Mr. Zakheim'.
Now, Lucky, you didn't use his official name and title which is The Rabbi Dove Zakheim.
i like the pun in calling a warmonger dove but it is dov.
http://www.rense.com/general75/latest.htm
http://www.rense.com/general74/911h.htm
http://rense.com/general62/murdre.htm
No it's not an excellent comment when it presuposes exceptionally 'Murican ignorance of cell phone technology
You don't get six points for a fumble on the 10 yard line.
What the fuck are you smoking jackass? You linked to an articl from 2014. It's not rocket science, and anyone that flew on a fucking airplane EVER in 2001 knows you couldnt make cell phone calls. Period.
But congratualtions on the moronic comment you stupid bitch
The link was posted so that people who don't live in land of fuckitted 'Murican retards can see for themselves just how ignorant and full of utter bullshit you and the OP actually are.
And that is before getting into the technological differences between the GSM and CDMA (USSA) standards which were designed to allow even greater spacing between cellphone towers, never mind that transmission wattage (in many cellphones) has declined since 2001. A 5000m ceiling is pure unadulterated BULLSHIT and discredits EVERYTHING else in the post.
Why don't ask your parents to hire you a decent physics tutor, if you can't afford a simple airline ticket.
The technology in 2001 is far inferior compared to that which we have today. Yes the power from the phone which is transmitted has declined (as well as the amount of Gold unfortunately) but the wattages are stepped up at the Towers.
Need I remind you about the Inverse Square Law?
The Aircraft are now equipped with repeaters. They were not in 2001.
It is improbable that any Cell Phone transmission got through although it was possible. The probability of the multiplicity of the phone calls that got through is extremely low.
You see the fuckwits I'm dealing with... you would have flunked them long before ever covering the Inverse Square Law. As to the tower wattages, I think one actually needs to pull the available FCC licensing data for any given tower before jumping to that conclusion. As to repeaters, since picocells are a type of repeater (used in commercial aircraft) I think I covered that rather expicitely in 6691520 and 6691709. These trolls have energy, but not functioning brain cells.
Yeah. I probably would have flunked 'em..
Come on...If Five Cell Phone calls originated from a Single Flight amd the odds that one of them connecting was one in a hundred the odds are one in Ten Billion that all five of them connected.
And I dono think that the 150 passengers could have attempted Ten Billion Phone Calls in an hour.
I have not done the sigma on it but my edumacated and gonkulated guess is that it is a Sigma 3 to a Sigma 6 event...
Every time I see something called a "Six Sigma event" I start wondering where the error in assumptions, methodology or reason was, since all have functioning calculators. In terms of proving what he wants to prove, the flight and FCC data I linked to coupled with some basic information (that I admittedly couldn't find in under 30 seconds) would do the trick, reasonably. Moreover, if someone actually had the cell tower logs, they could roughly triangulate all those cell phones, regardless of whether anyone was actually speaking on them, in addition to verifying that the correct IMEI of an alleged cell phone was communicating with the correct tower at the correct times. But then who really likes homework?
Do not know why anybody would downvote you on that.
No. I like being paid for my work and I haven't the time to garner the data or even have a clue on where to start on getting the tower data or if it even is available...
But you were flying during that period.
So anecdotally writing, of course, you never completed a call from a Jet with your cellphone. I know that I did not. You did experiment. (Yeah. I know that you did.)
But when they write of "craters"???
They just do not understand the vastness of the underground structure of the WTC complex or that there was an actual subterranian highway down there. underneath They are just parroting what they have watched in a video after all.
And I would bleed red ink all over their reports.
Of course I will bleed Red Ink all over the NIST Report as well. However, unlike the people at NIST, they are not taught or trained in this field.
Do not let it bring you down.
To see the crater shaped rubble of the WTC 1 just pause at 1:17 into this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPJUP-Ry7d0
WTC 7 had a 40 foot deep basemement and was less than half as tall as WTC 1 BUT IT'S RUBBLE PILE WAS OVER 60 FEET TALL AT THE CENTER
WTC 1 had a 60 foot deep basement and was more than twice as tall as WTC 7, BUT IT'S RUBBLE PILE IS ZERO FEET TALL AT THE CENTER.
THEREFORE WTC 1 DID NOT COLLAPSE AS WTC 7 DID (which really couldn't have collapsed from fire and never symmetrically from assymetric fires)
The only way WTC 1 could have turned into a crater is if the material that composed it was blown out laterally
QED, explosives were used to demolish WTC 1
There's no way a certain segment of the population is not going to downvote me on a post that questions the divinity of their sacred calf.
As to 9/11, I haven't looked at the "crater" allegations or evidence enough to form an opnion on that aspect, much less write intelligently, but as to cell phones-
On 9/11 I was actually working out in your neck of the woods and I had either a Nokia or Ericson candybar phone and a company Blackberry with me (the old black & white LCD model). Making voice calls mid-flight would be rude, even by banker standards, but I had no such objections to packet data.
So on the return flight (after they finally reopened US airspace to people not named Bin Laden) I was so "happy" to be heading home and to giant pile of work at the office couldn't FedEx to Cali after 9/11... that I was emailing and texting even more than usual on that flight.
So there's two admitted shortcomings to the applicability my experience, the effective ranges of packet data vs voice data, and the reduced ability to properly perceive latency, but other than that, both phones seemed to work fine on planes before and after 9/11.
Hey Fucktard Israeli Cowboy: your link was to the new technology of installing cell substations on airplanes. It doesen't apply to 2001
The US is waking up to the Mossad and Israel and the deep state crime ring that runs the US. The world is waking up; no going back to our ignorance. THE TRUTH HAS COME OUT ASSHOLE.
No it wasn't. It was a link to the change in EU regulations regarding PEDS. The installation of picocells in airplanes facilitates often spotty tower connections and reduces tower-jumping.
You have exposed yourself a dimwitted liar and a shill, by blatantly mischaracterizing my link, which anyone else can read.
You are a stupid HASBARA TROLL. Any retard knows that picocells were not installed on any airplane involved on 911. Why would you link to a technology that HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 911? WHAT HUBRIS!!!!!
Are you some kind of IDIOT TROLL????
You can't stop AMERICANS FROM WAKING UP!!!!!!
Israel and the Mossad; along with deep state actors DID 911.
GAMES UP FOR YOU AND YOUR BOSSES
Go back and read what I read. I never alleged that picocells were installed on the aircraft involved with 9/11.
You can toss ad hominems all day. It doesn't change the facts.
If the science is too complicated for you, you are free to get on an airplane and prove your own ignorance in privacy. Even my five year old smart phone will display MNC, MCC, UCID, and SNR on cell tower signals.
You are a usefull idiot of CIA and their foreign friends.
Urban Redneck...He may be CIA or Mossad. That thought also crossed my mind.
He is too interested in disinformation.
He is also distracting and diverting the conversation from the topic that Bush had advanced nowledge of "The Event"
We know that the Mossad did know as they broadcast on Israeli Late Night TeeVee a gaffe of epic proportions...
"WE WERE THERE TO DOCUMENT THE EVENT" (Of course they were not here to prevent the attack...)
https://youtu.be/FILBXO9Uujk?t=1m13s
so even your kid can geta signal on an airplane!! Yeah sure, when it's parked at the gate!!
I posted a link from a CELL PHONE ENGINEER saying you can't get a signal even about 10K feet and you can't maintain a cell phone connection travelling faster than 155 MPH
MANY people I've talked to have tried to call at altiitude but the only time their phone works is under 5K feet on descent and then only briefly before the signal gets cut off.
Listen to CeeCee Lyles phone call; no airplane engine noise; a whipsering voice tells her the words to say (you can hear it after she say "I love you very much", then a male voice whispers 'much').
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbzaZNzdIFA
Who killed CeeCee? Who killed 3K Americans and now 4 mllion Arabs? Israel, the Mossad, and the deep state actors. The whole world has woken up and even more Americans are waking up thanks to Donald Trump
The end of the US/ANGLO/ZIONAZI empire is close by due to the colossal HUBRIS of the Mossad and the US/ISRAELI deep state actors. IT'S FINISHED, over, and time to put a stick in it. What comes is a multi polar world again; Syria was the Stalingrad of our time.
Time now for investigations into 9/11 to arrest the gulity.
Do you realize what a lunatic (clinging to some cultish belief) you sound like? Some link on the magic internet (and an admittedly doctored YouTube video) disproves a reality that anyone can experience for themselves... (and it's not like I didn't provide instructions as to how to do so... )
The blatant appeal to authority is also a non-starter, the US government had an army of ENGINEERS sign off on their 9-11 fantasy "report".
It's much easier to prove what did not happen, than to prove what actually did happen, but both are actually much more difficult than simply proving that that the State is not telling the truth. Any proof (from an engineering standpoint) with regards to a conspiracy to forge all the in-flight telephone calls would begin with correlating flight data, cell tower data, and call data (i.e. actual work).
What doctored youtube video are you talking about HASBARA TROLL. Of course the US had an army of engineers ON THEIR PAYROLL sign off on their report.
Urban you are still a FUCKTARD HASBARA TROLL.
It's easty to prove that the buildings didn't fall down by gravity SINCE THE RESULT IS A CRATER!!!
It's easy to prove that no commercial jet of any size hit the PENTAGON BECAUSE THERE IS NOT ENOUGH DEBRIS!!!
IT'S EASIEST OF ALL TO PROVE THAT CELL PHONES DON'T WORK AT 39K FEET FLYING 500MPG OVER RURAL PENNSYLVANIA. SINCE THIS EXPERIMENT HAS BEEN REPEATED AND THE RESULT IS ALWAYS FAILURE.
Because you are backing up a lunatic theory the US government is hiding behind, you are OBVIOUSLY A TROLL!!!
It's over; game over; no one hardly believes the shit the government has put out about 911. Nobody who has looked even the slightest comes away with anything but doubt.
CARE TO EXPLAIN THE CHESED GOLEM INCIDENT? 3 Israeli's were overhead talking about a plan to fly planes into the tower
ihttp://911blogger.com/news/2007-04-04/follow-%E2%80%9Cprior-knowledge-91... a conversation witnessed in Oct 2000; the FBI refuses to release their report
'April 4, 2007 – His name is Andras Szekely. He was born in Budapest, Hungary – the son of Holocaust survivors. At age 18, Andras fled Hungary seeking work, financial opportunity, and a better life. He landed in Italy where he sought political asylum. From Italy he immigrated to Sweden where he says he was welcomed with “open arms”. Young, and with a strong curiosity for exploration, Szekely set out to travel across Europe. Soon he found himself yearning for Israel.
He immigrated to Israel, served in the military, and fought in the Yom Kippur War (1973). After the war, he became disenchanted with the state of Israel because in his words, “I realized that the state of Israel was not a Jewish state, but rather a bunch of criminals from top to bottom.” He left Zionism behind and headed back to Europe. Eventually he found himself in the United States of America. According to Szekely, “Thanks to President Ronald Reagan, I was able to become an American citizen. I cannot put into words what a blessing it is…not necessarily financially, but spiritually and emotionally.”
Andras Szekely is the Muckraker Report source for the articles, Prior knowledge of 9/11 attacks overheard in Hebrew and Chasing down Gomel Chesed Cemetery. The summary of these two articles is as follows:
In October 2000, approximately 11 months prior to September 11, 2001, Andras Szekely was collecting English Ivy cuttings at the Gomel Chesed Cemetery located at Mccellan and 245 Mount Olive Avenue, which is near the city lines of Elizabeth and Newark, New Jersey. While in the cemetery, Szekely overheard three men, speaking in Hebrew, say:
“The Americans will learn what it is to live with terrorists after the planes hit the twins in September.”
Szekely, well in advance of 9/11, contacted the FBI asking for protection in exchange for his information. Having lived around the world in many different countries, Szekely had a healthy fear of being targeted by those he overheard in the cemetery. Unlike too many Americans, he understands that people suddenly disappear and family members are at risk when you cross the wrong people. So just to be clear – asking for protection in exchange for the information he had was prompted by his lifetime of cultural / governmental experiences. It was a prudent request in my opinion.
The FBI refused to guarantee protection for this individual. Even though Szekely told the FBI this much – that he had information involving a planned attack in NYC involving airplanes – the FBI refused to guarantee his protection. The former IDF member persisted, and according to his account, two FBI agents finally paid him a visit on June 26, 2001. They left their business cards with him.
The Muckraker Report contacted the FBI Newark Division on Wednesday, November 22, 2006 to confirm whether Agent Gritz and Agent Stengel met with Andras Szekely on or about June 26, 2001. I was directed to the FBI Newark Division Legal Unit where I spoke with a woman who identified herself as Amy. She suggested that I put my request in writing and fax it to her, which I did that same day.
On Friday, November 24, 2006 I received a phone call from Amy confirming receipt of my written request. She informed me that she would be out of the office the following week, and that somebody else from the Newark Division Legal Unit would handle my request.
On Tuesday, November 28, 2006 I received a phone call from Kathy at the FBI National Press Office. She informed me that the Legal Unit decided that I needed to file a Freedom of Information Act request.
On Wednesday, November 29, 2006 I contacted Agent Robin (Gritz) Laird. Once I had Agent Gritz on the phone, I introduced myself and immediately explained that I was attempting to confirm a meeting that herself and Agent Stengel allegedly had with Szekely on June 26, 2001. Agent Gritz was already aware of my inquiries. She indicated that she understood that the Press Office was handling my request. I told her that I decided to call her directly and emphasized that I only wish to confirm the meeting. Gritz said, “I’m not allowed to discuss this with you. I would get in trouble.”
I also filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the FBI. In my request dated December 7, 2006, I asked for the following information. What follows is the body of my FOIA request.
I am requesting the following public records and information pursuant to the Freedom of Information Act:
BACKGROUND: On or about June 26, 2001, Andras Szekely (New Jersey) was allegedly visited by two FBI Special Agents from the FBI Newark Division: Agent Robin (Gritz) Laird and Agent Stengel. Szekely has provided me with copies of these agents’ business cards that they allegedly left with Szekely after their visit. Szekely alleges that he had obtained information in October 2000 related to a terrorist attack in NYC in which airplanes would be used. Szekely alleges that he asked the FBI for protection and legal assistance, prior to being visited by Gritz and Stengel, in exchange for his detailed information. Szekely has provided me with copies of two letters he had received from the FBI’s Arthur Radford Baker, Unit Chief, Office of Public and Congressional Affairs, dated March 28, 2001 and June 20, 2001. These letters basically indicate that the FBI would offer no protection to Szekely regardless of the information he had to offer.
INFORMATION REQUESTED:
1. Please provide any documents, reports, time sheets, schedulers / daily planners, telephone records, etc. that reflect that Agent Stengel and Agent Robin Gritz met with Andras Szekely on or about June 26, 2001.
2. Please provide documents and reports that the Agents might have filed after their meeting with Szekely to include the content of the meeting.
3. Please provide all files and documents related to Andras Szekely.
In response to this FOIA request, the FBI sent a letter dated December 27, 2006, which indicated that because I had requested documents on an individual, I needed to provide the FBI with either proof of death or a privacy waiver from the subject(s) of my request. Included with this letter from the FBI was a Privacy Waiver and Certification of Identity form.
I contacted Andras Szekely and asked him if he would be willing to sign the waiver. He said he would. I mailed him the form, a copy of my original FOIA, and the response letter from the FBI. He signed the waiver form and returned it to me. I mailed the waiver form to the FBI on January 1, 2007.
On February 7, 2007 I received a pathetic response to my FOIA from the FBI. Bear in mind what I requested in my FOIA.
* Documents, reports, time sheets, schedulers / daily planners, telephone records, etc. that reflect that Agent Stengel and Agent Robin Gritz met with Andras Szekely on or about June 26, 2001
* Documents and reports that the Agents might have filed after their meeting with Szekely to include the content of the meeting
* All files and documents related to Andras Szekely
The FBI responded:
This is in response to your Freedom of Information-Privacy Acts (FOIPA) request noted above.
To promptly respond to requests, we concentrate on identifying main files in the central records system at FBI Headquarters. No records responsive to your FOIPA request were located by a search of the automated and manual indices.
The Muckraker Report didn’t ask the FBI how it searches for files or where. In fact, I don’t give a damn that to promptly respond to requests, the FBI claims to concentrate on identifying main files in the central records system at FBI Headquarters. What is so infuriating about this lame response is the fact that the FBI admits to looking for the documents I requested – in places they could not be found! Why would the reports, time sheets, schedulers / daily planners, telephone records, etc. that reflect that Agent Stengel and Agent Robin Gritz met with Andras Szekely on or about June 26, 2001 be in the main files of the central records system? These types of documents would not be in the main files because the FBI refused to provide Szekely protection – therefore it missed or purposely missed an opportunity to gain actionable intelligence for the main files. No, the records I asked for would be found in other locations. Clearly, when Gritz and Stengel met with Szekely, their whereabouts were documented – just not in the main file. The FBI knows this – its just hiding relevant and important information from the American people to protect its masters and the ruling elite.
Furthermore, and smelling more like a cover-up, FBI Unit Chief of the Office of Public and Congressional Affairs, Arthur Radford Baker mailed letters to Szekely on March 28, 2001 and June 20, 2001 – letters in which the FBI now claims it can locate no record of ever writing. I did request all files and documents related to Andras Szekely. I expected the FBI would have at least produced its copy of the letters.
As with every worthless FOIA response I receive from the U.S. government, there is a provision for an appeal.
What follows is the content of my appeal dated February 18, 2007.
February 18, 2007
Dear Mr. David M. Hardy,
Please accept this administrative appeal of Request No.: 1069088-000.
In your response to my FOIA request you indicated that when your office responds to FOIA requests it “concentrates on identifying main files in the central records system at FBI Headquarters”. Accordingly, you indicated, “no records responsive to my FOIPA request were located.
The reason no records responsive to my request were found is because you looked where the records are not – thus ignoring my request. I have requested documents that would most likely be found in administrative / personnel files, or in the files / computers / cellular phone records / day planners / schedulers of two FBI agents – Agent Andrew H. Stengel and Agent Robyn L. Gritz.
I have enclosed the original FOIA, the privacy waiver signed by Andras Szekely, letters received by Szekely from the FBI, and the business cards of the two FBI agents, Stengel and Gritz, which Szekely says the FBI left with him after they met with him on or about June 26, 2001.
To suggest that the FBI has no record of any meeting with Andras Szekely given the correspondence and the business cards – cards that have corrected phone numbers on them and should be easily confirmed as Stengel’s and Gritz’s handwriting – is unreasonable and unlikely.
It is my belief that agent’s Stengel and Gritz did meet with Szekely on or about June 26, 2001 and in that meeting he informed the agents that he had information regarding a then “upcoming” terrorist attack in September 2001 involving airplanes and targets in New York City. I can understand how at that point the agent’s might not have taken Szekely seriously – however knowing what I now know about what information Szekely claimed to have at that time, it is in the public’s interest to understand this meeting and the content thereof.
Please accept this appeal and search for the documentation I have originally request in the locations in which it could be found.
On March 16, 2007 I received a response to my appeal from Priscilla Jones, Supervisory Administrative Specialist for the Office of Information and Privacy. Jones wrote:
Dear Mr. Haas:
This is to advise you that your administrative appeal from the action of the Federal Bureau of Investigation was received by this Office on March 2, 2007.
The Office of Information and Privacy, which has the responsibility of adjudicating such appeals, has a substantial backlog of pending appeals received prior to yours. In an attempt to afford each appellant equal and impartial treatment, we have adopted a general practice of assigning appeals in the approximate order of receipt. Your appeal has been assigned number 07-0824. Please mention this number in any future correspondence with this Office regarding this matter.
We will notify you of the decision on your appeal as soon as we can. We regret the necessity of this delay and appreciate your continued patience.
Let me tell you what Andras Szekely regrets. He regrets everyday that despite his best efforts, the FBI, for reasons that remain obscure, refused to listen to him. He regrets that the inconvenient information about 9/11 remains covered-up or dismissed as conspiratorial if it sees the light of day. He lives with the uncertainty of whether he could have done more to save nearly 3000 lives. I assure him every time we speak that he did his best – that he could not have done anything more because the U.S. government enabled, exploited, or created 9/11 – that prior knowledge within the U.S. government is as much of a fact as the towers no longer standing.
I asked Szekely why he is willing to go public now, beyond the fact that he wants the American people to know his story and of his efforts to warn the U.S. government about the attacks. He said, “I have nothing left to lose.”
None of us do Andras. None of us do.
You keep tossing ad hominems at your intellectual superiors, changing the subject, and employing countless rhetorical and logical fallacies and yet you expect them to waste time with some post that long.
Step up your game, or back to your parents' couch where you belong kid.
Urban; your inability to rebut any of my arguments reveals you to be a troll. I mention Pentagon debris and you are silent; I link to a cellphone engineer who stated that it is impossible for cell phone calls to be made at altitidue and you are silent. No actually you linked to a completely different topic, current regulations of 'pico cell's on jets, completley OFF TOPIC ON 911 !!!
Don't quit your day job Hasbara troll.
America has woken up and thanks to the Donald, even the real rednecks (not the fake Tel Aviv Redneck trolls) out there are even waking up (they had already woken up about Sandy Hook but now Donald will complete their transformation into enlightened ciitzens)
No dumb shit, we're not talking about the Pentagon, we are discussing cell phones. You were and are wrong about the cell phones. I proved it. And all you can do is try to change the subject and toss ad hominems.
Urban, your totally ignorant about radiation emission from cell towers; they are designed to spread energy out laterally not vertically. Hopefully you won't want to show the tediious derivation of how this comes about by solving Maxwell equations. I'm sure you understand that cell towers have to hand off a signal to each others smoothly to maintain a call and this is impossible if moving faster than 150MPH in an airplane above a few thousand feet.
It would have been interesting if you had a possessed a modicum of background in science to be able to argue my points and although your brother troll stepped right up there and tried to help you, he was pathetic too. If this is the best Israel can come up in the Troll space, then I don't see much future for that job in your country.
Apparently you need to brush up on basic physics (along with timely responses, and the broad diversity of people who use German words, like say people in German-speaking countiures), and more importantly- signal propagation properties of radio waves in the 800-1900MHz range. Here's a hint- they aren't friggin' laser beams.
you speak of ad hominems yet tell him he's a kid and you are his intellectual superior (with zero evidence).
who really sounds like the kid?
really?
i think israel needs to step up its game before it goes the way of south africa.
>who really sounds like the kid?
You really asked that question?
Try the one that can't go a whole post without calling the other person a troll. Simple enough for you?
cheech; urban won't rebut any argument; have you noticed? He implies videos are 'doctored' without any evidence; he brings up recent 'pico cell' regulations of the EU to somehow support the LUNATIC IDEA that cell phones worked at alititude on 9/11. He calls himself an 'urban cowboy' but can't swear a lick, talk in slang...etc. The obvious disconnect between his moniker and his style of writing smells HASBARA TROLL all over.
Let's suppose some American or even anybody really believes the US governments fantastical story of 911. Then when they are presented with evidence, they suddenly accuse them of being doctored, or when experts are quoted regarding the evidence, they ignore them. No, Urban is NOT INTERESTED IN FINDING THE TRUTH.
Urban's presented just one link and that of to pico cell regulations of the EU which were dutifully checked by readers here and shown to be COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC regarding 911
Reasoning logically, Urban is not interestd in the truth, only in backing the governments story. Now what subset of the population is interested in backing up the governemtns story even when the vast majority of evidence we have shows the story to be BS? The answer obviously are GOVERNMENT TROLLS. Now which government, the US or Israel, has the biggest PR factory going on the Internet? Why, it's Israel; they pay students, such as Urban (who I bet is about 19 to 22 years old and living in Tel Aviv) to try to people to believe the US governments BS stories. Why? Because the US is the Puppet of Israel due to all of our money being created out of thin air by private BANKS SUCH AS THE ROTHSCHILDS, WHO CREATED ISRAEL.
Why is the US governemnt giving Israel BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVERY YEAR (YEAR AFTER YEAR!!!) when millions upon millions of Americans cannot afford health insurance?
Are really so STUPID that you do not comprehend the basic English admission EXPLICIT in the title of YouTube video that you posted a link to, "CeeCee Lyles - Flight 93 - Enhanced audio" Or perhaps you think CeeCee's home answering machine was encoding message files in Adobe Flash format back in 2001...
You should really go back to the trailer park (or Yahoo) and study up on some of enlightened thought your relative intellectual superiors such as Trayvon and Reverend Al before wasting all our time here.
Yes, you are that stupid, because your insignificant brain is obviously incapable of processing the notion that not only am I one of the biggest critics of the Israeli government at ZH, who has managed to survive every attempt of the hasbara rats to have me banned, but people (and the world we live in) are more complex than the oversimplifications you seek solace in.
URBAN YOU ARE A FUCKTARD HASBARA TROLL
you call me an 'untermensch', a word the Nazi's used to describe inferior people. No 'urban cowboy' uses that phrase, only ISRAELI HASBARA TROLLS.
BY THE WAY DICKHEAD, I'm far more educated than you..
AMERICANS ARE WAKING UP. GET OVER IT.
By the way CeeCee Lyles audio can be downloaded from the FBI directly and nothing is altered FUKCTARD !!!!
You either work for ConocoPhillips, or yo' mama never taught you when to stop digging...
In addition to laughable ignorance I guess we should add blindness to your list of disabilities, or didn't you process the implications of the sexyläuten? (Google can't help you fake understanding that shibboleth, but Ratscam might)
Of course, in your little close-minded and closeted world, only one group of people would possibly use that word, and yet that group constantly screws up the singular and plural versions...
You can't fix stupid, but I'll give you hint, I live in the land of (very Redneck, just ask Ghordo) Schwingers who love holding Schwingfests (when they're not playing games with the nominative, accusative, dative and genitive cases, although I did have to get some help from Haus once to decline a Transexuelle), and the next big Schwingfest is a few months after the next Sechseläuten (see above... I'm also being nice here by not using the Google/NSA unfriendly Sächsilüüte, as well as being humorous).
80 years ago, your idol Little Adolph was calling the locals Bergjuden (I guess they didn't have hasbara back then..., but since you might click on the Wikipedia link from your NSA search engine, I might as well let you know now... that just because it's on the internet and it's what the government wants you think, doesn't make it the correct answer).
Congratulations on making an even bigger idiot of yourself! That was actually a very high bar to clear.
WHAT A FUCKTARD YOU ARE !!!!
CAN'T ANSWER ANY ARGUMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!
WTC 1 WAS BLOWN UP. Just pause this video at 1:17 and see the crater that WTC 1 turned into for yourself. Why is the center at ground level?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPJUP-Ry7d0
Respoind to Chesed Golem Fucktard; 3 ISRAELIS HEARD TALKING ABOUT 911 10 MONTHS BEFORE IT HAPPENED!!!!!!
http://911blogger.com/news/2007-04-04/follow-%E2%80%9Cprior-knowledge-911-attacks-overheard-hebrew%E2%80%9D-story-fbi-looks-documents-where-they-cannot-be-found
You haven't presented arguments, you trolled with cheap ad hominems, misdirections, changed subjects, and countless other rhetorical frauds of the uneducated or the maliciously deceptive.
This was a FightClub round on whether cell phones could have been operated on a commercial aircraft on 11.09.01.
There is nothing in your post that is germane to that topic. Unlike my post, which actually was a very sophisticated response to your very cheap trolling.