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Can Trump Be Stopped?
Submitted by Patrick Buchanan via Buchanan.org,
Three months ago, this writer sent out a column entitled, “Could Trump Win?” meaning the Republican nomination.
Today even the Trump deniers concede the possibility.
And the emerging question has become: “Can Trump be stopped? And if so, where, and by whom?”
Consider the catbird seat in which The Donald sits.
An average of national polls puts him around 30 percent, trailed by Dr. Ben Carson with about 20 percent. No other GOP candidate gets double digits.
Trump is leading Carson in Iowa, running first in New Hampshire, crushing the field in Nevada and South Carolina. These are the first four contests. In Florida, Trump’s support exceeds that of ex-Governor Jeb Bush and Sen. Marco Rubio combined.
If these polls don’t turn around, big time, Trump is the nominee.
And with Thanksgiving a month off, then the Christmas season, New Year’s, college football playoffs and NFL playoffs, the interest of the nation will drift away, again and again, from politics.
Voting begins Feb. 1 in Iowa. Super Bowl Sunday is Feb. 7. And the New Hampshire primary will likely be on Tuesday, Feb. 9.
We are only three months out, and Trump still holds the high cards.
After months of speeches and TV appearances, he is a far more disciplined campaigner and communicator. In a year when a huge slice of the nation is disgusted with political correctness, wants to dethrone the establishment, wipe the slate clean and begin anew with someone fresh, Trump is in the pole position.
His issues — secure the border, send illegal immigrants back, renegotiate rotten trade deals that shipped our jobs abroad — are more in tune with the national mood than pro-amnesty, Obamatrade or NAFTA.
Wall Street Journal conservatism is in a bear market.
Trump says he will talk to Vladimir Putin, enforce the nuclear deal with Iran, not tear it up on Inauguration Day, and keep U.S. troops out of Syria. And South Korea should pay more of the freight and provide more of the troops for its own defense.
A nationalist, and a reluctant interventionist, if U.S. interests are not imperiled, Trump offers a dramatic contrast to the neocons and Hillary Clinton, the probable Democratic nominee. She not only voted for the Iraq war Trump opposed, but she helped launch the Libyan war.
The lights are burning late tonight in the suites of the establishment tonight. For not since Sen. Barry Goldwater won the California primary in 1964 have their prospects appeared so grim.
Can Trump be stopped?
Absent some killer gaffe or explosive revelation, he will have to be stopped in Iowa or New Hampshire. A rival will have to emerge by then, strong enough and resourced enough to beat him by March.
The first hurdle for the establishment in taking down Trump is Carson. In every national poll, he is second. He’s sitting on the votes the establishment candidate will need to overtake Trump.
Iowa is the ideal terrain for a religious-social conservative to upset Trump, as Mike Huckabee showed in 2008 and Rick Santorum in 2012.
But Carson has preempted part of the Evangelical and social conservative vote. Moreover, Sen. Ted Cruz, an anti-establishment man, is working Iowa and has the forensic abilities to rally social conservatives.
Should Trump fall, and his estate go to probate, Cruz’s claim would seem superior to that of any establishment favorite.
Indeed, for an establishment-backed candidate — a Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, John Kasich, Chris Christie, Bobby Jindal — to win Iowa, he must break out of the single-digit pack soon, fend off Cruz, strip Carson of part of his following, then overtake Trump. A tall order.
Yet, the battle to consolidate establishment support has begun. And despite his name, family associations, size of his Super PAC, Jeb has lost ground to Marco Rubio. Look to Marco to emerge as the establishment’s last best hope to take down Trump.
But if Trump wins in Iowa, he wins in New Hampshire.
The Iowa Caucuses then, the first contest, may well be decisive. If not stopped there, Trump may be unstoppable. Yet, as it is a caucus state where voters stick around for hours before voting, organization, intensity and endless labor can pay off big against a front-runner.
In Iowa, for example, Ronald Reagan was defeated by George H. W. Bush in 1980. Vice President Bush was defeated by Bob Dole and Pat Robertson in 1988. Reagan and Bush I needed and managed comeback victories in New Hampshire. One cannot lose Iowa and New Hampshire.
Thus, today’s task for the Republican establishment.
Between now and March, they must settle on a candidate, hope his rivals get out of the race, defeat Trump in one of the first two contests, or effect his defeat by someone like Carson, then pray Trump will collapse like a house of cards.
The improbabilities of accomplishing this grow by the week, and will soon start looking, increasingly, like an impossibility - absent the kind of celestial intervention that marked the career of the late Calvin Coolidge.
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Good luck with that...seriously.
Give it a rest, would ya?
of course not; and why should he be? he will turn the econonic/political,social order upside down as it should be. the shit is over. prosperity and realism 2-3 yrs away.
"prosperity and realism 2-3 yrs away."
There are many oxymoronic things wrong with your conclusion.
And that's on a good day, on a newly checked trajectory, regardless of who fills the spot of new "leader."
Anyone asking if Trump can be stopped is a Rip van Winkle who isn't paying attention.
Our rulers want Jebidiah Vs. Hillary.
I think in the end they want a Bush in the captain's cair when the big fire comes.
If Trump really wants to be prez, all he has to do is reveal a 1911 under his jacket at the podium while claiming his dedication to the Second Amendment.
Fine. Why don't TPTB just put the Witch and the Shrub on the same ticket and be done with it?
The "Republican Party" is actually a secret component of the Democrat Socialist/Progressive/Fascist/Running Dog party of Totalitarian Imperialism!
"The first hurdle for the establishment in taking down Trump is Carson. In every national poll, he is second. He’s sitting on the votes the establishment candidate will need to overtake Trump."
They are optimistic little buggers aren't they? lol
Or vice versa, depending on how their relative positions develop, but not to Bush or Rubio.
Can Trump Be Stopped?If they can't stop him via "legitimate" means Trump will go the way Robert Kennedy did in 1968 . . . . mark my words.
In a previous brainstorm .... the GOP didn't want Reagan .... probably our most beloved President ?
“[Trump]’s catching on with the average Americans who have had it with foreign wars, our trade policies and a stalled economy,” said Drew Ivers, Ron Paul’s 2012 Iowa campaign chairman.
The average income .... inside the DC sanitary napkin belt way .... is over 6 figures .... not counting generous retirement, vacation, medical, sick leave, expense account, car allowance, tenure, nepotism benefits .... to name a few !
True, and the only hope we 'outsiders' have to change this is to get an outsider elected who isn't bought & paid for by the MIC, Insurance & Banking interests.
The Jews wont let trump win
Sorry goys..
Who will the Jews let win .... don't tease us .... you have some inside info ?
Just like 'they' didn't let RFK win.
You moron, Trump is rich threfore he must be jewish.
sarc
Well, he's your man if you need to go into bankruptcy.
And boy does the Yew Ess NEED to go into bankruptcy.
Sarc off, BTW.
Down below, I garnered a very negative reaction when I said, "Save yourself and kiss off the rest of us."
Okay, it sounds mean and it should because it was a bit hyperbolic but what I was really espousing is basic libertarianism. Utopia and dytopia are the same thing from two different viewpoints. You do not want to live in a world of my design, do you? Well, I do not want to live in a world designed by the voters. Sorry...
If everyone in America who was able simply took care of themselves and their families, there would be very, very little need for government.
Think about it...
Ageed. Which is exactly how .gov was originally designed, as limited by the Bill of Rights particularly in the 9th & 10th amendments. Small, with limited powers all else being left to the states & people predicated on a self governed populus. Ignorance has allowed this to be turned on it's head with .gov being at the top & all others subject to it.
Revolution is coming, that much is sure but it could take one of several forms.
So then, you are an elitist and a defeatist, all at once?
Or you're simply satisfied with your station in life, and have checked out, reality be damned?
Where do you get off encouraging your fellow citizens to not exercise their right to vote,
when clearly at this stage of the game that is not only most sacrosanct,
but last recourse to change trajectory?
Get off your high horse --you are helping no one, but enabling unbridled control.
Waiting for the next election is like waiting for Godot...but, hey, go for it. You want to vote, vote. See where it gets you. As for me, I'm old. I have no time left to wait...call it whatever you want. I call it mortality.
I call it Self-Absorption, the most dangerous and destructive force on the planet.
Sleep well, "old" man.
The nihilists can't help but tell you what to do. Misery loves company.
The only trajectory change the establishment will allow is straight into the sun. If a true anti-establishment player took hold of the most powerful nation on Earth, either he or our country would be shattered before the end of his/her term. In the case of a true Napolean or Hitler who forges a new path for USA, expect an ending befitting either one. I'm not even sure we could trust a person like that, Hitler himself was heavily funded by Anglo-Germanic banks that operated out of London, the same banks that funded the UK, USA, and Russia at the time. No, when it comes time for election, our true path will have already been layed out, whether we know it or not.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/10/19/donald-trump-dr-ben-c...
Now if you look at the picture they use... I see a winning ticket if you put that up against Clinton and a VP to be named later...
Standard Disclaimer: Why the fuck not? How can it be any worse that the last 20 years of candidates?
No one (in my memory) has had the balls to say what the Donald, or "the Ben" are saying which is what every one of us has been saying here and elsewhere for years. They won't play the PC bullshit game and when the media complex tries corner them they simply raise the middle finger, double-down and gain even more popularity. Gotta love it..
Republicans shouldn't be called Republicans anymore. They are statists.
But in reality the only reason why Trump is relevant here is because the Republicans are struggling to stay relevant. One effect that is not mentioned concerning the civil rights act is the effect it had on Immigration. Before the majority of immigrants were mainly European. Afterwards most of them came from Socialist governments.
More importantly, they came from countries that do not value individualism and freedom. And as this population continues to grow without a need to adapt thanks to Multiculturalism and Moral Relativism.
TRIUMPH WITH TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!
Ron Paul was a good choice in 2008 but the establishment ignored him, ridiculed him. In 2012 they gave him some notice, some respect and then fucked him. Now for 2016, the establishment whore media do not ignore Trump but give him some ground. In connecting the dots I get circles. It's difficult to predict but it's cool as hell to hear him talk like he is going to Make America Great Again. The rest of the candidates won't walk the walk or even talk the talk so I gotta go with Trump. If Trump wins I'm gonna dye my hair that blondish color and get a new hairdoo just like his, just for the hell of it.
I am not voting for any of these clowns but I sometimes wonder if people are overly suspicious of Rand. One has to remember that in order to enter this system one has to get by the oligarchy Zionist gate keepers, if you don't kiss their ass you don't get in. Kennedy also kissed Zionist ass to get in office and then turned on them (at least in part and yes I know he wasn't a saint). So why is it again that everybody is so convinced that Rand Paul is a Zionist cocksmoker?
Exactly...I wouldnt be surprised if the whole Trump thing was to take down Rand..
youtube.com/watch?v=MKH6PAoUuD0 Stump the Trump
Can Trump be stopped? Are the Chicago Cubs going to win the World Series?
The media's collective heads are spinning "Just who is supporting this guy?"- and the answer is ME and people just like me. A long time conservative- who has grown wary of the Politician Elites- telling me how I should think- McCain and Romney are the best we've got- and conservative issues are to be hiddden, becaus the media is not on our side, and I should rally around them. These are the same people who told us that Clin Powell would make a good candidate- WHEN NO ONE KNEW WHERE HE STOOD ON ANY ISSUES! Yet the (R) establishment are trying to take the guy out- and judging by the Republicans in Congress approval ratings, we're not fans of the establishment's picks. But it goes to show, what I've known for a while- It's a farce- while Trump may not be the most conservative and IS an elite- he is saying more of what I want to hear then anyone else, and he can't be controlled (by the media or the politcal elites) and that has the R party scared shitless. But who is pulling the cart- the (R) voters or the establishment. The more the establishment wants him out, and the more they sic their horses on him as in the last debate (Fiorina), the more I like him.
I can't wait to hear the Trump Mud slinging begin.. look what we found oh my what a bad guy..
and trump firing back... Ok Ok i fucked a few bimbo's you want a pussey in office. yeah i took a bribe.. and i dropped it in the salvation army box on my way out.. I don't need that shit or His Shit.. Illegitimate daughter, Mistress, shit if i was in Europe i would have three of them. let me get them on the phone i have them on speed dial.. oh sorry they don't want to talk to you, they said fuck off.
I can just hear Donald Trump's inaugural address...
[Insert any name here] (is that really a last name?) has zero cred. Fading out fast. Make America Great Again. Lightweight [Insert any name here] calls me to ask for favors and then mockingly smiles when told of my high poll numbers. Ignore. Who cares! Highly overrated political pundit [Insert any name here] is always hitting me politically. So many things are wrong! What a stiff. What a stiff! Stupid [Insert any name here] calls me a jackass. Who cares! Make America Great Again. Liberal clown [Insert any name here] is a fraud. Anyone who wants strong borders and good trade deals for the US should boycott. Psycho! Frumpy and very dumb [Insert any name here] should be forced to take an IQ test. But nobody beats Trump! Make America Great Again. Unimportant [Insert any name here] calls me a jackass. Those who believe in tight border security, stopping illegal immigration & SMART trade deals w/other countries should boycott. Remember, Univision apologized! Stupid [Insert any name here] owes me an apology! If you were smart, which you are not, you would oppose the monstrous windfarms that will destroy your country. The word is getting out, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! [Insert any name here], a no-good rotten traitor, is a political moron. A wiseguy with no talent. WIN! Irrelevant clown [Insert any name here] is truly dumb as a rock. What the hell were you thinking when you married loser @Rosie O'Donnell. Like Russell Brand, a total loser! An 'extremely credible' source has called my office and told me that [Insert any name here] has the mind of a very dumb and backward child. Hokey garbage. I am fighting for our Veterans! Uncomfortable looking [Insert any name here] is a political moron. We're not dealing with Albert Einstein. What a stiff. What a stiff!
He's the only candidate that all stripes of people - those in manufacturing who haven't received a REAL raise in years - support.
He keeps saying what people are thinking.
Simpler taxes, no estate tax. - Cut immigration and visas 'till wages rise for americans. - Build a friggin wall. - Revoke citizenship for isis groupies. - Cut better deals with our trade "partners". - incentivize corps. to stay in US with lower corporate taxes. - Allow health insurance Co's to compete across state borders.
wounded sparrow, a few unworkable things, there, imho
"Build a friggin wall"... like which one? based on... effectiveness? two walls come to mind: the Chinese Great Wall and the Iron Curtain. mind you, I am just asking what you expect from a wall. long tunneling equipment like in the Siege of Gaza?
"Revoke citizenship for isis groupies"... and where do you stop? how about Putin groupies? the problem with revoking citizenship is old. you start with one group... and go on and on
"Cut better deals with our trade "partners""... ehm... better for whom? but at least you wrote "partners", not partners
"incentivize corps. to stay in US with lower corporate taxes"... here too I don't even know where to start. it's a highly competitive "market", that one. you could as well ask for no corporate taxes and no corporate subsidies at the same time, and this one would be... cheaper, for Uncle Sam's taxpayers
Wall. Physical and the use of technology ( drones, heat imaging. . . ) do I really need to iteration the various ways. (Tunnels are no match for new technology or just more border patrol agents)
Isis groupies. Ummm let's see. You start with isis groupies, and you ehhhh end with isis groupies. . . Simple.
Deals. FOR US. did I not make myself clear.? (at least implicitly) no. I want better deals for fucking China.
Corp. Taxes. So lower corp. taxes ( say... lower than 9 out of 10 of countries with whom we have the largest trade volume ).
I don't see the "unworkability" of which your attempting to school me??
After reading most of the comment(s) from the pro-Trump community here it appears that having this candidate for President ignore the pretext that got us into this mess in the first place for our own good of course is just "fine"!
And trust me. He'll do the same thing the last two President(s) did to you when it comes to your "safety" and "security"!
And trust me" Like you are an insider and really know.
Thanks for the laugh.
Overall Trump is the least worst.