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Citi Is Now Mocking Its Own Economic Forecasts

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We've been harsh on Citi in the past, but we admit there is a certain honor among bailoutees when the "smartest people in the room" not only admit they suck at predicting the future, but poke fun at their own forecasting skills. Case in point: the chart below.

When the Fed's central-planners do the same, and then spontaneously combust, our job will be done.

 

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Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:02 | 6695873 Crocodile
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Chart makes no sense to me; I'm not that bright though.

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:04 | 6695881 venturen
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it is called ski slope economic

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:54 | 6696089 Occident Mortal
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It seems that the US has finally discovered the magica fomula for perpetual wealth generation...

 

"Suspended disbelief", is a term that we haven't heard for a good few years now.

That's what Citi's own forecast histogram shows... Forecasters are perpetually optimistic even when Einstein would label them insane.

 

But when forecasting the economy, it pays better to be optimistic rather than to be right. Am I right?

 

Optimism >> Truth

= everyone gets rich (OK well maybe not everyone)

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:08 | 6695894 hongdo
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Me either.  Huh?

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 19:03 | 6696368 Squid-puppets a...
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it charts their consecutive predictions for GDP growth... "We're gonna grow at 5% guys, invest accordingly!! ...(3 months later) er, make that 4% ...(3 months later) er, make that 3% ....(3 months later) er, make that 2%  etc

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:11 | 6695907 SimplePrinciple
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Chart title:  Rainbows and Unicorns, but Always in the Future.

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:21 | 6695951 Sudden Debt
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Well, it says that since 2011, every year the market didn't flip over was a gift.

So maybe not tomorrow but it will happen.

And as we're having a downyear every 7 year on average, 2015/2016 fits the trend.

But trends off course are meanth to be broken but if they keep redrawing it, in the end they'll be right.

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:25 | 6695975 seek
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The lines are composed of points, each of which is a forecast at a certain time.

At the beginning of each year, they put out a forecast. That's the first point for each's years line, and it's way up high on the chart, high growth expected, everything is great!

Each subsequent forecast they revise it lower, and lower, until the last point is the forecast (and reality) of growth for that year. That's the end of each year's line.

If they were good forecasts, the line would go straight across -- predicted growth on Jan 1 of the year would match actual growth on Dec 31, and they'd never revise it downward.

The number of revisions and the consistent slope does indeed show they really suck at forecasting. They're always too optimistic. Even a shitty forecaster would have a low estimate at some point and have to revise up at some point, and they're shitter at forecasting than that.

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:30 | 6695996 hongdo
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OK.  Thanks.  There has got to be a better way to visualize this.

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:33 | 6696011 Sanity Bear
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I'm sure you can find an animated toilet flushing GIF on the net somewhere

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:32 | 6696004 Sanity Bear
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I would only quibble with the "they suck at forecasting" part.

 

They may suck at accurate forecasting, but accuracy is not the reason they put out the numbers they do. It is ultimately a sales and marketing gimmick, which they can't be held accountable under any truth-in-advertising laws.

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 18:20 | 6696196 Gypsy Ramono
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Thanks' Seek, I sort of understand it now. It's amazing these fuckers still have a job!

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 19:34 | 6696460 mendigo
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To what extent would you imagine thier performance grading is based on an assessment of thier honesty?

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 19:49 | 6696515 Calling Elvis
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I agree the charts don't make sense - when were these predictions made for example - and hey Crocodile yer smart big time if yer reading this website regularly.

PEACE

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:06 | 6695880 XRAYD
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2% for everything everywhere up or down works every year - and the world is clearly fine with it.

Fire the Central bankers everywhere! They are parasites enabling bigger ones that feed off the people and corrupt politics.

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:09 | 6695899 buzzsaw99
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don't worry about pandit or corbat, they got plenty.

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:11 | 6695906 tdogg
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Can someone hack into the Eccles building speaker system & play the following.

Who knows - it's worth a shot.  They all just get up & start walking off and poof .....

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRHtC7PDpAU

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:25 | 6695970 Jstanley011
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They'll be much more combustible after curing in the breeze from lampposts for a couple of weeks.

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:29 | 6695993 Raybo
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Is it me, or is there no reference point i.e actual global GDP growth

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:32 | 6696002 Atomizer
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Citi Bank,

Recycle your credit card points to buy more money at the Federal Reserve window dealer. 

See how we laugh at you subsidizing FRN credit through bonus points?  

Wed, 10/21/2015 - 17:51 | 6696072 Icewater Enema
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Those dopes, they didn't make the chart go out far enough. They forgot to show the hockey stick in 2017.

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